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(soft upbeat music) 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:33.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:48.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:22:48.440 --> 00:23:01.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:18.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:23:50.440 --> 00:24:05.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:08.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:23.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:38.440 (soft upbeat music) 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:47.440 - Okay, hello everybody. 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:48.440 Welcome to the show. 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:49.440 I just interrupted Ray 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.440 and he was talking about the CIA and art. 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.440 Ray, go ahead and reiterate or say whatever you were 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:55.440 gonna say before I interrupted you. 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:01.440 - Oh, just that the traditions in painting 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.440 had accumulated lots of knowledge 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:08.440 from the time of Michelangelo 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:13.440 and the older, older so-called classical paintings. 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.440 They had been learning actual physical principles 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:28.440 about light and geometry and teaching their art students 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:34.440 sort of an aspect of physics 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.440 to use in representing the world. 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.440 And then the first world war, 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:47.440 the Dada surrealist reaction and Freudianism 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:53.440 rejected the whole so-called rational system 00:25:53.440 --> 00:26:01.440 that created such terrible things as the world war. 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:08.440 And that went with a lot of experimentation 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:13.440 in both the arts and sciences and humanities 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.440 trying out different things 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:20.440 and Hitler closed all of the experimental art schools 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:29.440 and descending science programs and such. 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:35.440 But right during and after the second world war, 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:42.440 the CIA created the thing they called 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.440 Congress for Cultural Freedom 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:50.440 in which they imposed that revolutionary 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:55.440 attitude towards painting, 00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:00.440 destroying the old because of its connection 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.440 to the corrupt system. 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:09.440 But they put it out as the glory of Western culture, 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:16.440 of freedom and Siqueiros, 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.440 the Mexican painter called it ghost art 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:25.440 imposed by the Rockefellers to destroy consciousness, 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:32.440 abstract expressionism, for example, 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:37.440 all of the abstract approaches to art 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:43.440 and the activities of the CIA 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.440 through the Cultural Freedom Foundation 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:53.440 shamed and expelled from the universities 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:58.440 the traditional people who preserved 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.440 the great tradition in painting 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.440 so that a whole generation of painters 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:10.440 in the universities didn't learn how to paint at all. 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:19.440 We're just now beginning to come out of that phase 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:24.440 where the whole culture was deliberately being destroyed 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:31.440 and rerouted down the Rockefeller ghost art route 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:37.440 to destroy actual understanding. 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:43.440 I see Noam Chomsky's linguistics 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:48.440 so-called as being one of the most powerful 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.440 examples of that. 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.440 Real linguistics had developed 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.440 with Franz Boas and his students 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:04.440 and they had created descriptions 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:11.440 understanding of a great variety of language and culture 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:20.440 that sort of a peak idea was the Horafian hypothesis 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:25.440 showing the absolute interaction 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:30.440 between conceptual understanding of the world 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.440 and how the language is structured. 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:38.440 And that was a way of understanding 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:43.440 the role of language behind science and art and culture, 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:50.440 the way that language can propagandistically 00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.440 destroy understanding of reality. 00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:59.440 That was part of the real tradition of linguistics. 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:06.440 At MIT with Pentagon funding, 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:11.440 the trend under Noam Chomsky 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.440 was to throw out everything that was real 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.440 in the linguistics tradition 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:22.440 and substitute mysticism based views 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:28.440 of consciousness in which words 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:33.440 are essentially determined by genes. 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:41.440 It's a long story that many historians of language 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:52.440 have looked back on it and pointed out 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.440 that his so-called generative linguistics, 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:01.440 generative grammar couldn't generate anything 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.440 and wasn't a grammar. 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.440 It was a total fraud, but school textbooks, 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.440 high school books incorporated his ideas 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:19.440 and supposedly since it described language production 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:25.440 in terms of a language apparatus 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.440 which is genetically determined, 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:33.440 supposedly learning his so-called linguistics 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:39.440 would make it easier to understand the English language 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.440 or whatever language you're studying. 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:44.440 And they actually sold those books 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.440 to school boards across the country. 00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:51.440 Absolutely destructive, not only useless, 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:58.440 but destroying a consciousness of how language really works. 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:04.440 So when he got famous for his anti-imperialism, 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.440 the world just sort of politely forgot 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:12.440 how fraudulent his linguistics work had been. 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:13.440 Do you think that he-- 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:18.440 Fraudulent in the direction of opening 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:24.440 the philosophical world to accept whatever 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:32.440 the Pentagon and CIA wanted to substitute for consciousness. 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.440 Do you suspect he was working under the direction 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.440 of anybody specific? 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.440 No, I think he was one of the originators 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:48.440 having grown up studying mysticism, 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.440 it blended right into, I think he believed 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:58.440 in that mystical idea that there is no consciousness 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:04.440 other than words, which in a fairly recent video 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.440 he was explaining that dogs can't think, 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.440 animals can't think because they don't have words. 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:19.440 But he said, I forget, canine or dog, he spelled out, 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:23.440 he said if they heard me say dogs, 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.440 they would get excited and think we were going somewhere. 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.440 So he was saying dogs don't have consciousness 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.440 because they don't have words, but then he had to spell out 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.440 the word because he didn't want to get the dogs excited. 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.440 Are you going to say something, Georgie? 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.440 Oh, Georgie, your audio. 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:49.440 I think you're muted, Georgie. 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.440 Sorry, can you hear me now? 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.440 Yeah, now you're good. 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.440 Yeah, so weren't the experiments in North Carolina 00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.440 with deaf and mute people that the state thought 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.440 they were, I guess using Chomsky's theory, 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.440 they thought that these were complete cretins 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.440 that had like no consciousness, no feelings, no mind, 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.440 and they actually forcibly sterilized them. 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.440 And then later on, somebody did IQ tests on those people 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.440 and turned out that they're perfectly intelligent. 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.440 So doesn't that invalidate Chomsky's theory directly? 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:26.440 How is history connected because of their speech? 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.440 Yeah, exactly. So these people had no language, right? 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.440 They were born deaf and mute and all they could do basically 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.440 is like, I mean, they had sign language, 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.440 which eventually they learned, but initially 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.440 they had no language and all they had is perception 00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.440 and visual perception and tactile perception. 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:49.440 And when a psychiatrist did IQ tests on them, 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.440 turned out that some of them were like slightly behind, 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.440 but most of them had normal intelligence. 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.440 So it's difficult to argue that Chomsky was right 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.440 because this directly proves even in humans, 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.440 people with no language are perfectly capable 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.440 of conscious experience. 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:10.440 Yeah, everything in reality falsifies Chomsky. 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.440 Why is this guy still a tenured professor at MIT then? 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:16.440 Is it just inertia? 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:26.440 Well, at the same time, he was creating his anti-linguistics, 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:32.440 anti-science doctrine of generative grammar. 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:41.440 One of his students said that even though the press 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.440 all through the US was saying Chomsky has explained 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.440 how the brain creates language, 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:55.440 he in person said when he says generate, 00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.440 he means it in a mathematical sense of account for. 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.440 He was knowing that people were being misled, 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.440 that he was aware that it wouldn't actually generate anything 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.440 that was useless for that purpose. 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.440 But at the same time he was doing that, 00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:26.440 Norbert Wiener with his more holistic approach 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:33.440 to cybernetics, non-digital, analog approach, 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:41.440 he was present at MIT, but because he criticized war, 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:47.440 wouldn't take money from the Pentagon, he was ostracized. 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:54.440 Chomsky was glad to receive funding from the Pentagon. 00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:04.440 He was a supporter of a Pentagon rocket man 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:13.440 to be the chancellor of MIT, very close to the Pentagon, 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.440 powered and taking their money, 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:26.440 and being in a way the Pentagon's pet anti-imperialist. 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:31.440 Chomsky used to be a close associate, 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.440 if not even a friend of Marvin Minsky, 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:35.440 one of the creators of the AI movement. 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.440 And I think where Minsky greatly disagreed 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.440 with Chomsky's theory that language is genetically determined 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.440 because Minsky said, listen, if that's the case, 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.440 we should have been able by now to create an algorithm 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.440 that would allow a computer to generate and learn a language de novo. 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.440 And we miserably failed every time we tried. 00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.440 - Yeah, that's what Chomsky led the public to believe he had. 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.440 But a couple of times when I was teaching linguistics, 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:13.440 nationally known linguists would go around basically propagandizing. 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.440 And when they would come to my class to talk, 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:24.440 I would have a chance to explain what was wrong with Chomsky's thing. 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:31.440 I pointed out that you can create a sentence 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:39.440 if you pick out the right system, right series of his rules, 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:45.440 you can create a sentence in any language in the world. 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:51.440 But only if you know what the sentence is you want to produce 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:56.440 to know what series to choose your rules in. 00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:02.440 You can't make a sentence that you don't know already applying his rules. 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:08.440 The choice of the rules has to be guided by the finished sentence. 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.440 And a couple of them actually understood the concept. 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:18.440 You can see that they only took them a couple of minutes to forget it. 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:24.440 - In one of your articles you said that the real structure of language is images based on images. 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.440 So if I understand this correctly, language comes after perception, 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.440 just like anything else in this world. 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.440 So if language is based on images, 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.440 is the fundamental structure of language based in physical brain structure, 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.440 which always changes with time and experience? 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:48.440 - Yeah, the brain structure as formed by interaction with the world. 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:55.440 - So in other words, metabolic rate, which greatly influences changes in brain structure, 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.440 it may be the ultimate determinant in the evolution of language. 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:05.440 - Yeah, you can analyze language. 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:11.440 Someone looked at letters that nuns had written in their 20s, 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.440 and then they knew the outcome. 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:21.440 And those who developed Alzheimer's at a relatively young age, 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:28.440 they could see that their language structure in their 20s was simplified. 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:35.440 And at a young age with a lot of mental energy, 00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:45.440 the language structure is extremely complex and unique. 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:54.440 Every situation demands a fundamental rethinking of the whole thing. 00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.440 And so there is real uniqueness in everything a healthy person says. 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:09.440 And when the mental energy is lower, what you get is strings of cliches. 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:18.440 - So basically the ability to turn experiences into language depends on the metabolic rate vitally. 00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.440 - Yeah. 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:29.440 - And the summation of that is Chomsky was too addicted to the MIT Epstein money to change his ways. 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.440 - To change his what? 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.440 - Change his ways, change his theories. He was too committed to them. 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:34.440 I'm just joking. 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:40.440 Didn't Epstein work at MIT? 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.440 - Oh, not that I've heard of. 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:49.440 Oh, yeah, just a little while before he was notorious, 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:55.440 he was funding one of their programs, 00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:01.440 and the guy who accepted his funding was embarrassed and quit. 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.440 - I think him and Minsky collaborated on a few things, 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.440 or at least Epstein sponsored some of Minsky's research. 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.440 At least that's what I saw recently on the global research site 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.440 and some of the other more peripheral ones which seem to be speaking more truth 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.440 than mainstream media has cumulatively done over the century. 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.440 - Well, speaking of that, so obviously we'll talk about all those things, 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.440 but first I wanted to chat about Ray's newsletter, 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.440 and then we could kind of go off the deep end on all the coronavirus stuff. 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.440 And so, Ray, you just sent out your Ray Peat's newsletter, 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.440 Estrogen, Iron, Degenerative Aging, and Progesterone. 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.440 And again, it's insane to me that you're-- 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.440 Go ahead. 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.440 I was going to say, I thought you were putting together new parts of the puzzle, 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.440 and I thought it was just amazing that you're still synthesizing these new ideas 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.440 every two months, you know, so I thought it was a fantastic newsletter. 00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.440 What was your motivation behind writing it? 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:10.440 - Just noticing that people weren't putting two and two together over the years. 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:19.440 Stuff that people could have been actually doing serious work on 50 years ago. 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:27.440 No one really has the motivation or energy to draw the conclusions. 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.440 - And I thought-- 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:37.440 - Incidentally, some people probably still don't have their copy of it 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:50.440 because Gmail is limiting it to a certain number every 24 hours. 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.440 And so I think about half of them still haven't gone through. 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.440 - Bummer. If you need any help with that, let us know, obviously. 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.440 But what were some of the major points? 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.440 You're obviously conversing with the public all the time. 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.440 What are the huge misconceptions that you feel like this newsletter covered 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.440 that are just repeated over and over that you think are incorrect? 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:22.440 - That working on one part of it, like taking an aromatase inhibitor, 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.440 isn't going to solve very much. 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:35.440 At the same time, improving one thing is likely to be making something else worse. 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:43.440 And so to look at the whole process as far as you can 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:55.440 and think of how you can remedy things with the least risk of doing more damage. 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.440 - I have a question on one of the main themes that you have there, 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:04.440 which says that osteoporosis and dementia are associated with iron overload, 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.440 but they're also associated with an increased likelihood of anemia. 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.440 So what would be your understanding of anemia? 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:15.440 Just low ferritin and low iron saturation? 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:22.440 - No anemia, low blood, low hematopoietin, low hemoglobin. 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:31.440 And about 50 years ago, someone was studying the health of California migrant workers 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:40.440 and found that the kids running around somewhat hungry and dirty 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:50.440 were healthier than the local middle class Anglo kids. 00:45:50.440 --> 00:46:02.440 And one of their features, the immigrant, very poor kids, 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:08.440 had I think a hemoglobin of 10 or 10.5, something like that. 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:20.440 And it isn't just malaria in Africa that flares up and kills people 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.440 when they give them an iron supplement, 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:32.440 but right in the U.S. they can see that so-called anemic kids are healthier 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:40.440 than the ones with the so-called normal levels of hematocrit and hemoglobin. 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.440 - So by iron overload, you mean the accumulation of unusable iron 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:52.440 in the forms of lipofuscin and other iron complexes? 00:46:52.440 --> 00:47:02.440 - Yeah, and estrogen is one of the things that causes you to retain iron, 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:09.440 but protectively lowers your hemoglobin and hematocrit. 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:17.440 And for 100 years, doctors have looked at the women 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:25.440 sometimes with very low hematocrit or hemoglobin and prescribed iron pills 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:31.440 and kept prescribing it even if their hemoglobin got lower, 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:39.440 not understanding that the same thing that makes them overload on iron 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:45.440 is blocking their bone marrow formation of red blood cells. 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:52.440 - So the well-known effects of increasing hematocrit and hemoglobin 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.440 under the effect of androgens, is that due to the opposition of androgens 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.440 to estrogen or a direct effect of androgens? 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:08.440 - Both direct on the bone marrow in particular, 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:16.440 androgen stabilizes it and helps it get warmer, 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.440 more productive, estrogen tends to lower the temperature, 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:33.440 and that goes, among other things, with a tendency to inflammation and iron toxicity. 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.440 - Have you seen those studies that claim that the purpose, apparently, 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.440 of fever is to deplete serum iron and tryptophan, 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.440 which helps greatly in fighting off an infection? 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:51.440 - Yeah, and it reduces all sorts of cytokines, 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:59.440 chilling creates inflammation, secreting inflammatory cytokines, 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:06.440 and causes cells to take up water, 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:13.440 and the falling temperature is not only a sign of, 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:24.440 but it's one of the mechanisms by which estrogen changes the body physiology. 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.440 - Can you run through the calcium metabolism and how that leads to the accumulation of iron? 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:36.440 What does parathyroid hormone have to do with iron overload? 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:43.440 - The way parathyroid works, for example, 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:55.440 under stimulation of the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system, 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.440 that system activates the parathyroid hormone. 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:11.440 Serotonin, pro-inflammatory, activates the parathyroid to provide more calcium 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:17.440 to the bloodstream by taking it out of the bone. 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:26.440 And the way it takes it out of the bone is to suppress the formation of carbon dioxide 00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:36.440 because carbon dioxide helps the present calcium to crystallize into the bone 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:41.440 as calcium carbonate. 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:46.440 And when the CO2 production is lowered, 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:55.440 it's replaced by glycolytic production of lactic acid, 00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:05.440 and the lactic acid in itself helps to dissolve the bone. 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:13.440 pH isn't the thing because you can have low pH with CO2 forming bone 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:19.440 and the same pH with lactic acid disassembling the bone. 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:27.440 And in all the rest of your tissues, including the cells in your bone, 00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.440 making the lactic acid, 00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:38.440 all of the intracellular processes, blood vessels in particular, suffer. 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:45.440 When they shift from producing carbon dioxide to producing lactate, 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.440 the intracellular pH rises, 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:56.440 increasing the negative ionization of the cell proteins, 00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:06.440 increasing their affinity for metals with a positive charge. 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:16.440 Ionized calcium with two positive charges, iron, aluminum, lead, 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:25.440 any other metal that is present will be stuck inside your soft tissue cells 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.440 along with the calcium, 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:34.440 especially if the calcium is deficient in your diet. 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:39.440 You will be taking up more iron, aluminum, lead, 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:44.440 whatever is present in your intestine. 00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:52.440 So the more calcium deficient you are, the more parathyroid hormone you make, 00:52:52.440 --> 00:53:01.440 and the more other metals will be present under the influence of parathyroid hormone 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:10.440 to crystallize, poisoning your blood vessels and brain cells and kidney cells in particular. 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.440 In Gilbert Ling's theory, potassium, which is another alkali mineral, 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.440 has the highest affinity for the intracellular proteins. 00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:22.440 How are these other metals, such as sodium, calcium, and iron, 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:29.440 able to displace potassium and disrupt the structure that potassium forms in the proteins? 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:46.440 The carbon dioxide causes its affinity for electrons as an acidic Lewis acid molecule, 00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:53.440 and as it associates with the proteins, the electrons are retracted, 00:53:53.440 --> 00:54:03.440 making the electron cloud holding the potassium proton, 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:09.440 holding the potassium alternatively with protons, 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:20.440 making it experience a lower attractive concentration of electrons. 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:29.440 And since the water polarization of the big potassium atom 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:36.440 doesn't interfere with that lower electronic attractive field, 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:44.440 the potassium is strongly attracted even to an electron retracted protein. 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:56.440 But as the carbon dioxide is decreased and the pH rises under the influence of forming lactic acid, 00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:06.440 then the electron cloud on the protein is no longer retracted towards the CO2, 00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:13.440 but it forms a more intense concentration of negative charge, 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:26.440 which will overcome the highly polarized water layers around sodium, for example, 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:34.440 but also around other highly concentrated positive charges. 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:43.440 So once the sodium starts displacing the potassium, 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:57.440 then the calcium and lead, mercury and iron will have a chance to get in at the same time as the calcium. 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:05.440 So you're saying that during the elevation of lactic acid production, intracellular pH rises, 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:09.440 but that's because the cell quickly expels the lactic acid it produces, right? 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.440 That's what's raising the pH, because if the lactic acid stays inside, 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:17.440 the pH will drop and the cell will probably die. 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:24.440 Yeah, but the lactic acid quickly moves out of the cell and acidifies the environment, 00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:32.440 creating other problems, activating inflammatory signals and so on. 00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:41.440 But what happens inside when the lactic acid leaves is an increased pH 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:48.440 because of the way the NADH handles its protons. 00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:54.440 Does lactic acid increase the reactivity of iron? 00:56:54.440 --> 00:57:01.440 I don't recall how they interact directly. 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.440 Okay, so iron basically, by being in the body, if there are a lot of reactive oxygen species, 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.440 they're the ones that turn iron into the reactive form, which is the ferrous iron, 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.440 and that's what attacks the polyunsaturated fats? 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:26.440 Mm-hmm. The CO2 is known to have an inactivating effect on iron, 00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:37.440 helping to keep it in a relatively oxidized state because of that acid property of CO2. 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:51.440 And just by displacing CO2, then lactic acid is, in effect, likely to make iron more reactive. 00:57:51.440 --> 00:58:03.440 When you reduce the triply ionized ferric iron, you get the highly reactive ferrous iron. 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:15.440 So the reducing property of lactic acid is for sure going to create iron damage. 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.440 And in that case, the reactive oxygen species are also a problem 00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:22.440 because they also have this reductive effect, right? 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:28.440 I mean, so keeping the metabolic rate high and preventing the leakage of these reactive oxygen species 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:34.440 through the membrane, keeping their numbers low, is another thing that will limit the activation of iron 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.440 and turning it into the reactive form. 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:45.440 Yeah, it's a whole flowing system that changes the nature of the cytoplasmic substance. 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:55.440 It's a process that isn't just an adding of a lot of little events, 00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:07.440 but the whole—the way Gilbert Ling saw it was that the nature of the substance of the cell 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.440 has these different ways of existing. 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.440 What is the direct conductor of this whole process? 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.440 I mean, in some articles you mentioned thyroid and other CO2, 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:25.440 but I guess the main effector of these beneficial changes, which keep the intracellular pH low, 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:30.440 keep the iron from getting into the reactive state, keep the electron flow going, 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.440 it seems that all of this, the direct agent is carbon dioxide, 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:38.440 but the thyroid is just the cause of the creation of carbon dioxide. 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:50.440 Yeah, this CO2 is the most pervasive and powerful and immediate causer. 00:59:50.440 --> 01:00:02.440 And it simultaneously goes with your consciousness, your level of motivation and sensitivity 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:12.440 and all of those things, all of the life properties correspond to basically the level of CO2 in your tissue. 01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:20.440 In your estimation, is parathyroid hormone one of the strongest stimulators of lactic acid production? 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:24.440 Yeah, as I presently understand it. 01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:29.440 So all things being equal, if you were to be injected with estrogen or serotonin or PTH, 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.440 PTH would be the worst out of all of those? 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:39.440 Yeah, except that estrogen ends up increasing your PTH. 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.440 Well, I was talking to Kate Deering, we were trading emails back and forth, 01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:48.440 and we were trying to figure something out, and I realized I had like a 01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:52.440 estrogen increases parathyroid hormone, prolactin increases parathyroid hormone, 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.440 aldosterone, like every single thing, serotonin increases parathyroid, 01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:01.440 so it seemed like that was, I don't know, the final common path of stress. 01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.440 Is that how you look at it? 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:17.440 Yeah, the angiotensin system is very close to it, but I think that's the right way of seeing it. 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.440 But the reverse is also true, isn't it? 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:26.440 Parathyroid hormone stimulates the production of all of these other mitigators as well. 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:33.440 Yeah, because it creates the degenerative alarm condition, 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:47.440 and the short-term recuperative stress hormones all exacerbate the long-range degenerative processes. 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:52.440 And last question about this, I'm pretty, I don't know if I caught this ever, 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:59.440 the parathyroid hormone is stimulating the production of lactic acid from the bone specifically, is that right? 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:11.440 Well, that's its functional, most known action, but it can't help doing it everywhere in the body. 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:17.440 And then to do that to other tissues, it just has to be in the blood, is that right? 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.440 Yeah. 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:20.440 Awesome. 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:25.440 What increases cellular uptake of parathyroid hormone, and what, conversely, what inhibits it? 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.440 Is there a mechanism that can do one or the other? 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:31.440 One or the other, what? 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:34.440 Cellular uptake of parathyroid hormone. 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.440 In other words, is there a way to make the cell more resistant to parathyroid hormone? 01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:45.440 Like, I mean, I know the medicine talks about receptors, but as you said, the cell is the entire receptor, 01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:46.440 the entire cell is the receptor. 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.440 What makes the cell resistant to parathyroid hormone? 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.440 Nothing that I know of. 01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:53.440 Wow. 01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.440 So really the only way to protect is limit its synthesis. 01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:06.440 Yeah, and vitamin D and calcium and magnesium are the things that are best known to do that. 01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:16.440 But at the same time, reducing androtensin and serotonin and aldosterone, for example. 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:26.440 Is there a specific parathyroid hormone receptor that medicine claims is the main mechanism through which that hormone works? 01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:30.440 I'm not familiar with it. 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:40.440 Okay. Maybe that's why, like, there may be steroids that compete with it, but I guess the receptor hasn't been found yet, 01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:46.440 or at least medicine is not interested in looking at it because they think parathyroid hormone is the greatest thing since sliced bread. 01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:50.440 It's given to osteoporotic people to increase their bone growth. 01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:51.440 Yeah. 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.440 Ray, I forgot what article you had posted this in, 01:03:55.440 --> 01:04:00.440 but apparently parathyroid hormone is harder to suppress as you get older or sicker, 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:09.440 and it was a DAMI paper, A-D-A-M-I, relationship between serum parathyroid hormone, vitamin D sufficiency, age, and calcium intake. 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:16.440 I think it does increase with age. 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:32.440 One of the interesting things that they don't like to talk about either is that the bone with aging and osteoporosis forms lots of aromatase. 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:41.440 It becomes a powerful source of estrogen at the same time that it's degenerating. 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.440 And that would be ameliorated by what? Just decreasing the activity of the parathyroid? 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.440 Or no, this is a functional aspect of the bone that's not going to change? 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.440 Or how do you reverse that? 01:04:54.440 --> 01:05:03.440 Yeah. Getting your calcium and vitamin D and magnesium high enough that you turn off your parathyroid hormone, 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:14.440 that's necessarily going to reduce the local stress and all of the signals that increase aromatase. 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:18.440 Amazing. Might take a five-minute break here. We have Ray Peat on the phone. 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.440 Georgie Dinkov, my partner in crime. 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:25.440 We're talking about Ray Peat's newsletter right now. The newsletter is available by email now. 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.440 It's $28 US, which can be paid through PayPal. 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:35.440 Ray Peat's newsletter, Peats@gmail.com. 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They're basically collector's items. 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:59.440 Ray, why don't we talk about Progest-E from Ketogen and how does progesterone relate to parathyroid hormone? 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:06.440 It strengthens your bones and turns off aromatase. 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:18.440 Once you recognize that stressed bones produce estrogen by their local aromatase, 01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:26.440 then you see one of the reasons that progesterone is going to strengthen the bones because it knocks out, 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:35.440 it inhibits aromatase and knocks out the estrogen receptors. 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:43.440 In addition to good nutrition and calcium and vitamin D, progesterone, thyroid, vitamin K would be good things for osteoporosis? 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:49.440 Yeah, everything good helps your bones. 01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:55.440 I have a question. In one of your newsletters, you said that serotonin antagonists are highly anabolic for the bone. 01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:01.440 I've seen a number of different studies come out with the various drugs, one of them ondansetron, 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:06.440 which is prescribed for nausea but it's really a serotonin antagonist. 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:15.440 It seems that these agents somehow directly work on the osteoclasts and osteoblasts without necessarily affecting parathyroid hormones. 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:22.440 It seems like serotonin has a direct effect on bone health that is, while overlapping with parathyroid hormone, 01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:26.440 there's an independent component of it too. Would you agree? 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:31.440 Yeah, I think everything really is overlapping. 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:41.440 The receptor idea is just a way of trying to introduce order kind of artificially. 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:46.440 Amazing. Thanks for that. Email Catherine to purchase Progest-E. 01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:50.440 Each bottle contains 3,400 milligrams of progesterone. It lasts a very long time, unless you use it topically, 01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.440 which I'm going through bottles every month. 01:07:53.440 --> 01:08:00.440 Another question on progesterone. In one of your articles, you mentioned that high enough concentrations of progesterone 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.440 can actually make the so-called estrogen receptor protein completely disintegrate. 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:12.440 I've seen many studies confirming that and other substances, such as caffeine, apparently have the same effect. 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:21.440 Does progesterone have the same sort of disintegrating effect on aromatase too, or is it simply inhibiting its effects? 01:08:21.440 --> 01:08:29.440 I think it's just blocking the promotion. 01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:38.440 For example, one of the powerful promoters of aromatase is prostaglandin, E. 01:08:38.440 --> 01:08:56.440 The enzyme cyclooxygenase that makes prostaglandin is activated under almost exactly the same circumstances that activate aromatase. 01:08:56.440 --> 01:09:09.440 So there's almost always prostaglandin, E, present, pushing for the formation of estrogen. 01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:29.440 Progesterone is known to, in multiple overlapping ways, to block the formation of prostaglandin, E, by creating destructive metabolites of it, 01:09:29.440 --> 01:09:51.440 blocking its formation and probably several parallel mechanisms that prevent the activation, opposing cortisol's activating effect on aromatase. 01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:57.440 What do you think is the main mechanism behind the synthesis of the actual aromatase protein? 01:09:57.440 --> 01:10:07.440 Is it simply under the body detects the metabolic rate is low or there are tissue and organ needs, you know, massive amounts of repair, 01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:11.440 and that's what triggers genomically the synthesis of more aromatase? 01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:16.440 Or is there another mechanism behind it, like radiation, heavy metals, things like that? 01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:32.440 Yeah, all of those things overlap for more than 50 years. Radiation, hypoxia, vitamin E deficiency, progesterone deficiency, 01:10:32.440 --> 01:10:49.440 all of these have been known to activate the formation of more aromatase. 01:10:49.440 --> 01:11:01.440 You have to then look at what each one of these things is doing. Each one of those factors, radiation, hypoxia, and so on, 01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:20.440 is also activating many other parts of the cell, which lead to activation of aromatase. So it's like a holistic switch mechanism 01:11:20.440 --> 01:11:34.440 in which everything gathers up a summation of forces to either turn aromatase on or off. 01:11:34.440 --> 01:11:45.440 Does the entry of steroids into the cell depend on the steroid structure and the status, the lipophilic or hydrophilic status of the cell? 01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:51.440 For example, cortisol and estrogen are much more hydrophilic than things like pregnenolone or progesterone. 01:11:51.440 --> 01:11:57.440 So if the cell is composed of fully saturated fats and is highly lipophilic, 01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:06.440 would that decrease the amount of hydrophilic steroids such as glucocorticoids and estrogen and aldosterone from entering inside the cell? 01:12:06.440 --> 01:12:18.440 Yeah, because at the same time it's keeping the energy state of the cell up, which maintains the hydrophobic condition. 01:12:18.440 --> 01:12:46.440 The stabilizing of the hydrophobicity is also the stabilizing of the energy level, and that suppresses all of the things that would call for raising the amount of estrogen or cortisol in the blood. 01:12:46.440 --> 01:13:00.440 So a very well energized, highly lipophilic cell would be resistant to estrogen even though it may be expressing the estrogen receptor at a normal level. 01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:06.440 So it may look like an estrogen sensitive cell, but estrogen can't really do much because it cannot get inside. 01:13:06.440 --> 01:13:18.440 Yeah, and it's probably keeping the estrogen receptors on the verge of disintegration to keep the hydrophobicity high. 01:13:18.440 --> 01:13:27.440 Do you think that may account for some studies that show that if you drastically increase the intake of saturated fat in the diet, 01:13:27.440 --> 01:13:34.440 it shows an increase of the amount of estradiol in the urine and sometimes in the blood as well? 01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:41.440 Would that be simply because the body is excreting all of this estradiol that cannot be used because the cells simply are impervious to it? 01:13:41.440 --> 01:14:05.440 I think so. A group, I think, generally led by Pasqualini has identified the processes of increasing estrogen in the cell or decreasing it. 01:14:05.440 --> 01:14:19.440 And in about 10 different ways, progesterone's effect is to get estrogen out of the cell and inactivated, 01:14:19.440 --> 01:14:26.440 made water soluble so that it travels through the blood quickly and is excreted. 01:14:26.440 --> 01:14:39.440 So the deficiency of progesterone will leave your cells highly activated by estrogen. 01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:52.440 For example, in the uterus or breast tissue that is deficient in progesterone, it's internally, it begins making its own estrogen 01:14:52.440 --> 01:15:03.440 but doesn't depend on the ovaries or adrenals to, you know, they used to cut those out to prevent or cure breast cancer. 01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:11.440 But if you take out the ovaries and adrenals, you're also taking out progesterone 01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:29.440 and that activates the process of forming estrogen locally, starting with the uterus and breast, but eventually going to every tissue that has been studied. 01:15:29.440 --> 01:15:38.440 Since the main method of deactivating estrogen is the glucuronidation process and glucuronic acid production depends on glucose availability, 01:15:38.440 --> 01:15:41.440 would you say that... 01:15:41.440 --> 01:15:42.440 Sulfation. 01:15:42.440 --> 01:15:43.440 Sulfation, yes. 01:15:43.440 --> 01:15:49.440 Would you say that the presence of sufficient amount of glucose in the diet, of carbohydrates in the diet, 01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:53.440 is vital for the proper excretion and deactivation of estrogen? 01:15:53.440 --> 01:15:58.440 Yeah, I think so. 01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:17.440 The glucuronic acid is related to the vitamin C producing system and that requires the normal flow of carbohydrate through the system. 01:16:17.440 --> 01:16:25.440 Great stuff. Before we move on, Ray, was there any other part of your newsletter that we should touch on before we move on? 01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:28.440 Nothing occurs to me. 01:16:28.440 --> 01:16:30.440 Okay, great. 01:16:30.440 --> 01:16:33.440 I have a question about lipofuscin. 01:16:33.440 --> 01:16:39.440 What is the mechanism through which lipofuscin inhibits the electron transport chain? 01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:43.440 Does it bind to one of the complexes directly, such as cytochrome C oxidase, 01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:51.440 or does it simply impede the flow of electrons by its accumulation and, I guess, electric repellent forces? 01:16:51.440 --> 01:17:08.440 My basic idea is that it's consuming the oxygen and the electrons that should be available to the mitochondria 01:17:08.440 --> 01:17:18.440 and it's directly turning them into hydrogen peroxide and superoxide and water. 01:17:18.440 --> 01:17:21.440 But in order for that process to happen, 01:17:21.440 --> 01:17:26.440 basically the accumulation of reactive oxygen species needs to occur, 01:17:26.440 --> 01:17:31.440 which suggests that a block of oxidative phosphorylation is already happening, right? 01:17:31.440 --> 01:17:34.440 Yeah, but it's like an amplifier. 01:17:34.440 --> 01:17:43.440 Once the process starts, you're making more heme oxygenase, releasing more iron, 01:17:43.440 --> 01:17:49.440 getting a more reduced environment that makes the iron more toxic, 01:17:49.440 --> 01:17:58.440 and consuming oxygen, lowering oxygen tension, accelerating the process. 01:17:58.440 --> 01:18:12.440 Once a person in old age reaches a point where they're visibly developing massive accumulation of dark pigment, 01:18:12.440 --> 01:18:21.440 it is extremely quick that they will go on to die. 01:18:21.440 --> 01:18:25.440 I was going to move on, Georgie. Stop me though if you have another question. 01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:26.440 No, I don't. 01:18:26.440 --> 01:18:29.440 Ray, we were talking before this and I joked, 01:18:29.440 --> 01:18:32.440 and I said, "How are things in the apocalypse in Oregon?" 01:18:32.440 --> 01:18:35.440 And you said things are halfway through. 01:18:35.440 --> 01:18:40.440 Instead of just going through the news and talking about all the bad things that are happening, 01:18:40.440 --> 01:18:44.440 of course we can't do that, but can you summarize what's going on? 01:18:44.440 --> 01:18:51.440 Is this the capitalist class winning and then winning over the working class? 01:18:51.440 --> 01:18:55.440 How can people think about what's going on in a reasonable way? 01:18:55.440 --> 01:19:01.440 Because it's extremely confusing what's happening, I feel like. 01:19:01.440 --> 01:19:10.440 The ruling class knows very well how to herd people, scare them with something, 01:19:10.440 --> 01:19:17.440 get a lemming conformist trend going, 01:19:17.440 --> 01:19:25.440 and keep them scared and inform them that everyone is going to do it 01:19:25.440 --> 01:19:30.440 and you'll be a freak if you don't go along with them. 01:19:30.440 --> 01:19:38.440 And so I think they're even inflating the number of people who are really getting the vaccines. 01:19:38.440 --> 01:19:52.440 The propaganda has reached a point, I think, that it is triggering the irritation, 01:19:52.440 --> 01:19:58.440 self-defense reflex in more and more people who are – 01:19:58.440 --> 01:20:04.440 as they start communicating, finding ways around the censorship, 01:20:04.440 --> 01:20:10.440 that frightens the ruling class more and so they panic and get more absurd 01:20:10.440 --> 01:20:17.440 in the lies they're putting out through the media. 01:20:17.440 --> 01:20:24.440 Well, people with two vaccines becoming suddenly un-vaxxed because they don't have a third one, 01:20:24.440 --> 01:20:28.440 I mean, should shake anybody to their core that this is insane. 01:20:28.440 --> 01:20:34.440 And of course, I mean, that's – if I were to hypothesize, given the things I've seen, 01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:42.440 that's just to normalize constant vaccination and that's part of the agenda for whatever reason. 01:20:42.440 --> 01:20:53.440 Yes, three vaccines in a year and that's not counting the influenza and shingles 01:20:53.440 --> 01:21:00.440 and chickenpox and all of the other vaccines. 01:21:00.440 --> 01:21:15.440 They haven't revised anything so it says now adults are going to need multiple, many annual vaccinations. 01:21:15.440 --> 01:21:24.440 Even though the information has been coming out for several years that the influenza vaccine, 01:21:24.440 --> 01:21:31.440 for example, makes you much more likely, several times more likely than the unvaccinated 01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:38.440 to develop a respiratory pneumonia-like problem. 01:21:38.440 --> 01:21:49.440 So there was a huge campaign the previous year, 2018 into 2019, 01:21:49.440 --> 01:21:55.440 to get Italians vaccinated with the influenza. 01:21:55.440 --> 01:22:04.440 And according to everything that's known, that would multiply several-fold their risk 01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:10.440 of developing some other respiratory disease. 01:22:10.440 --> 01:22:17.440 So that very likely was a factor in the high mortality in Italy, 01:22:17.440 --> 01:22:24.440 that they had been so obedient in getting their influenza vaccine. 01:22:24.440 --> 01:22:28.440 I don't know if you checked out that Notion document I sent you, but there were two tweets. 01:22:28.440 --> 01:22:33.440 One was from Marx in 1842 and another one from Illich in 1976. 01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:39.440 And it seems like people were sounding the alarm on the possibility of a medical dictatorship. 01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:42.440 And so I'm sure given the amount of things you've read, 01:22:42.440 --> 01:22:50.440 probably a lot of people have talked about this, that it would come to some kind of technocratic medical nightmare situation. 01:22:50.440 --> 01:22:55.440 There's a movie called V for Vendetta, which was fairly recent, which was exactly about that. 01:22:55.440 --> 01:22:57.440 I haven't seen it for years. 01:22:57.440 --> 01:23:05.440 Ray, did – I mean, you've read a lot of Illich's stuff. Was that something he was chronically talking about? 01:23:05.440 --> 01:23:27.440 Oh, yeah. He saw education and medicine as the two basic evils of our society that were destroying humanity. 01:23:27.440 --> 01:23:32.440 What about technology? The Unabomber thought technology is at the core, is the actual direct agent. 01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:35.440 Do you agree with that, of the destruction? 01:23:35.440 --> 01:23:52.440 Well, yeah, the way technology is used in indoctrination, the existence of the technical knowledge itself needn't be harmful, 01:23:52.440 --> 01:24:06.440 but they create this ideology of the digital view of consciousness, for example, that's separate from technical understanding. 01:24:06.440 --> 01:24:27.440 If Norbert Wiener had been followed, there wouldn't have been this digitized reality quantization of everything as part of the philosophical reductionism. 01:24:27.440 --> 01:24:30.440 That reality is discrete instead of continuous. 01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.440 Yeah. 01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:41.440 Ray, by the second vaccine, third vaccine, and impending fourth vaccine, would there be something a person could measure on a lab test? 01:24:41.440 --> 01:24:48.440 Would their aldosterone be through the roof or something with inducing that spike protein? Would there be something they could identify? 01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:58.440 Inducing the spike protein? I'm not sure what you mean. 01:24:58.440 --> 01:25:09.440 Like if somebody was skeptical that these vaccines were harmful, could they get a blood test for something that would demonstrate that their physiology was completely out of whack? 01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:15.440 Oh, yeah. I think the antidepressant would be pretty high. 01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:19.440 That's an accurate blood test? 01:25:19.440 --> 01:25:22.440 Yeah. 01:25:22.440 --> 01:25:25.440 Interesting. I've never had a measure. 01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:35.440 I don't know if you've seen the news, but China is embarking on a massive vaccination campaign to vaccinate 1.1 billion people by October 1st. 01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:42.440 What do you think is behind that? Is China also under control of the powers that be? 01:25:42.440 --> 01:25:57.440 Or do they have another motive, afraid maybe that if this virus narrative falls apart, maybe CIA or who knows who else will release another virus and that one won't be as benign? 01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:11.440 Yeah, I think China keeps in mind the history of germ warfare of the United States, and that's probably part of their thinking. 01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:19.440 But they also collaborated with the United States in that Wuhan Institute of Virology on this gain-of-function research. 01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:28.440 So is that a case of keep your friends close, your enemies closer? Does China just want to get an idea of what the Americans are thinking of unleashing? 01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:33.440 Or do you think China is on board with this whole globalization plan? 01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:51.440 I think it's a faction in China. I think the president, he intervened and sort of cut down the Fauci faction. 01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:58.440 Oh, I see. So that may be behind his announcement that he's going to redistribute the wealth, make China more equitable? 01:26:58.440 --> 01:27:02.440 I guess, yeah. 01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:05.440 I was going to move on to questions. Georgie, stop me if you have any other. 01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:10.440 So before this, Ray, I gathered a bunch of questions from people that watch this show. 01:27:10.440 --> 01:27:14.440 And so I thought we would run through them and then let you go. 01:27:14.440 --> 01:27:17.440 Guys, give this episode a like. Sincerely appreciate it. 01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:21.440 We have an amazing listenership that hangs out every Friday. 01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:24.440 So, guys, thank you so much, Georgie. Thank you, Ray. Thank you. 01:27:24.440 --> 01:27:34.440 So my number my first question here was hopefully like a clarification of Georgie and I were talking about collecting the urine and each liter being about a thousand calories. 01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:37.440 But I think I might have Georgie might have said it correctly and I might have goofed it. 01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:47.440 But can you just explain that that test, that at home test for collecting urine and how to quantify how many calories you're burning real fast? 01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:52.440 No, I don't know how it would be used for counting calories. 01:27:52.440 --> 01:27:58.440 Well, didn't you mention that if you discard the morning urine, then you collect the urine the rest of the day? 01:27:58.440 --> 01:28:04.440 Couldn't you do some kind of math and then figure out how many calories you're burning? 01:28:04.440 --> 01:28:16.440 If you measure your water, total water intake and urine, then you know how much water you're evaporating. 01:28:16.440 --> 01:28:24.440 And that goes up as you burn calories. So you have to know the water balance. 01:28:24.440 --> 01:28:31.440 So you basically perspire about a liter of water for every thousand calories burned, right? 01:28:31.440 --> 01:28:32.440 Yeah. Yeah. 01:28:32.440 --> 01:28:35.440 My apologies to Georgie, because I butchered that and I said you were wrong. 01:28:35.440 --> 01:28:39.440 So my apologies, Georgie. Thanks for clarifying that. 01:28:39.440 --> 01:28:46.440 Speaking of something else you can clarify, I have a quote from you in 2012 and it says, I have known, this is the relevant part, 01:28:46.440 --> 01:28:52.440 when it's taken to small doses, 50 micrograms of T3 will usually normalize any hypothyroid metabolism. 01:28:52.440 --> 01:29:07.440 And I actually send that quote to a lot of people and I just wanted to like bring it back up since it's nine years old and see if you still felt similarly about that kind of upper cap of 50 micrograms of T3. 01:29:07.440 --> 01:29:16.440 That's just the equivalent of the old standard two grains of armor. 01:29:16.440 --> 01:29:25.440 It's partly just an arbitrary number because it varies so much with individuals. 01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:37.440 But roughly 25 micrograms of T3 sums up about the same as as one grain of armor. 01:29:37.440 --> 01:29:47.440 And since the average replacement dose used to be two grains of armor, that's where that 50 micrograms came from. 01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:57.440 And if somebody was taking 50 micrograms, like the people that you know who have done that, do they take 10 micrograms five times per day with food or do you split up even smaller? 01:29:57.440 --> 01:30:06.440 Yeah, either way, but for sure split up so it comes in gradually. 01:30:06.440 --> 01:30:08.440 Good. Stop me at any time, Georgie. 01:30:08.440 --> 01:30:16.440 Another question from a listener here, and they said, I'd like to hear from him about some of the reasons that he is so upbeat about Mexico. 01:30:16.440 --> 01:30:20.440 The ones that you mentioned he talked about on the call that you were on with him. 01:30:20.440 --> 01:30:22.440 In fact, I'd like a whole show about Mexico, he says. 01:30:22.440 --> 01:30:30.440 So I mentioned on a live stream saying that we were on a call that I didn't set up by some other people and you were very positive about Mexico. 01:30:30.440 --> 01:30:36.440 And so I think that's on a lot of people's minds right now of, hey, I got to get out of the US or I got to get out of somewhere else. 01:30:36.440 --> 01:30:40.440 And I mentioned that you had a very positive view of Mexico. 01:30:40.440 --> 01:30:43.440 If you want to reiterate any of that, I think people would enjoy it. 01:30:43.440 --> 01:31:00.440 The objective evidence is that I guess it was about 20 years ago, Cuauhtémoc Cardenas really won the popular vote, but lost the election by fraud. 01:31:00.440 --> 01:31:15.440 And the fact that in actual votes, as well as electoral success, AMLO had national support. 01:31:15.440 --> 01:31:27.440 The fact that the great bulk of the population supports those two individuals shows a lot about the quality of the country. 01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:35.440 Very, very different from European-American consciousness. 01:31:35.440 --> 01:31:44.440 Do you think there's any truth to the claims that there was election fraud in the last election, in the presidential election in the US? 01:31:44.440 --> 01:31:50.440 I mean, if this can happen in Mexico, why couldn't it happen here, considering the sophistication of the three-letter agencies? 01:31:50.440 --> 01:32:00.440 Yeah, the use of digital voting machines operated through computers. 01:32:00.440 --> 01:32:08.440 It's the perfect way to hide the fraud to some extent. 01:32:08.440 --> 01:32:20.440 Black Box voting, when it was pointing out fraud by the Republicans, was a very popular website. 01:32:20.440 --> 01:32:32.440 But I think they're still in operation, but no one wants to investigate fraud by the Democrats comparatively. 01:32:32.440 --> 01:32:42.440 Do you think the court system has been completely compromised, or at least compromised to the point where even if evidence is unearthed, it will simply go nowhere? 01:32:42.440 --> 01:33:05.440 Yeah, I think the courts are well-packed with state supporting, no matter which party. It doesn't really matter that much which fascist party you're keeping in power. 01:33:05.440 --> 01:33:16.440 Ray, before I read off more questions, is there anything you want to say about Afghanistan, and is there anything you want to say about the so-called FDA approval of the vaccines? 01:33:16.440 --> 01:33:39.440 Oh, I think there was a possible positive interpretation for Biden wanting to do what Trump wanted to do, get the army out of some of the wars. 01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:54.440 And I think today's bombing probably was the factions that can't afford to have any decrease in war expenditure. 01:33:54.440 --> 01:34:14.440 The trillions that have gone through the military industry in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, they don't want to see the tap turned off to their endless money supply. 01:34:14.440 --> 01:34:36.440 Do you think Biden's decision to withdraw, was there anything good behind it, according to you? Or do you think it was more along the lines of a political move because midterm elections are coming, he wants to please the war-weary public, money can be spent on other things, the public really doesn't want any more wars right now? 01:34:36.440 --> 01:35:01.440 Yeah, I think their interpretation of natural positive action by Biden is reasonable. But the faction that doesn't want to stop the war will kill lots of people to try to get the reoccupation going. 01:35:01.440 --> 01:35:12.440 Great stuff, thanks for that. Okay, here's another one. Ray has previously mentioned that his favorite animals are ants. Are there any animals that Ray considers to be evil or malevolent, such as mosquitoes or hyenas? 01:35:12.440 --> 01:35:34.440 I don't think so. It's just what they interpret as food that isn't compatible with our well-being. I noticed someone who asked the question, I think, had the name sandwich. 01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:56.440 It's a matter of perspective. Mosquito and hyena see lunch when they smell a person. It's just in conflict with human preferences. 01:35:56.440 --> 01:36:12.440 You have a good memory for remembering that. On that note, do you think that hunting for food is not an immoral activity for a human? 01:36:12.440 --> 01:36:41.440 Yeah, if there's actually a reason to hunt for food, if they really need food. It's like a hyena. You can't say that they're having evil thoughts just because they have a different idea of what lunch is. 01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:56.440 That's exactly the context I was asking about. If a person is hungry, and if food supply becomes a problem, or becomes too compromised, and all you have is a gun in the wilderness, then it's a matter of perspective. 01:36:56.440 --> 01:37:04.440 Yes, it's a living creature you're destroying, but you're not doing it for fun. You're doing it because you saw food. 01:37:04.440 --> 01:37:11.440 Semi-related, but do you have any favorite examples of mutual aid in the animal kingdom? 01:37:11.440 --> 01:37:20.440 Oh, there are so many of them. 01:37:20.440 --> 01:37:32.440 People are impervious to that idea that nature isn't anything but terrible and harsh and cruel. That's why I feel like just getting your thoughts on it is useful. 01:37:32.440 --> 01:37:48.440 You can see a lot of videos on the internet of animals expressing grief and gratitude and mutual support and so on. 01:37:48.440 --> 01:38:01.440 I watched one, and it must have been a tiger or something, and a bird had fallen into a tar pit, and the tiger went over to it, grabbed onto its wing, and swung it out of the tar pit. It was pretty good. 01:38:01.440 --> 01:38:14.440 I have several other examples. There are several videos on YouTube where you can see how a herd of buffaloes saves an antelope that a lion has basically latched on. 01:38:14.440 --> 01:38:35.440 The buffaloes will go in and kick the lion. Usually the lion leaves when he sees a herd of buffaloes, but if he doesn't, then he'll get kicked out. 01:38:35.440 --> 01:38:49.440 This is a very common example of how people are playing with it, not really treating it as food, and just letting it be. 01:38:49.440 --> 01:39:05.440 I've seen videos of people releasing a grizzly bear from a trap, a very large Canadian gray wolf from a trap, a bobcat, and I think even a mountain lion. 01:39:05.440 --> 01:39:12.440 Typically, if you get that close to these animals under normal circumstances, you will probably get attacked. 01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:21.440 It's amazing that these animals were basically just sitting there quietly, allowing the human to free them up, and in some cases, after that, they refused to leave. 01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:26.440 They just kept following the human around as if they somehow became friends. 01:39:26.440 --> 01:39:33.440 Yeah, actually, animals show gratitude and friendship. 01:39:33.440 --> 01:39:43.440 Have you seen this in birds? In one of your books, you mentioned that birds are apparently really good at trying to get people's attention and form cooperative relationships. 01:39:43.440 --> 01:39:50.440 Yeah, and you probably remember the story I told about the ant. 01:39:50.440 --> 01:39:57.440 I put out an ant that was drowning in honey, and its head was exposed. 01:39:57.440 --> 01:40:16.440 An ant came along and found a drop of honey, but it ran around to see how big it was, and it saw the head sticking out and jumped back in shock, and then discussed the situation for a while. 01:40:16.440 --> 01:40:25.440 Very agitated communications, and then it went around to the side and sat down and started eating. 01:40:25.440 --> 01:40:40.440 Another ant came along, did exactly the same thing, jumped back in shock, except this time the communication was very short, and it went around and started eating honey. 01:40:40.440 --> 01:40:54.440 I didn't stay there to see if more ants came along and did the same, but when I came back an hour later, the drop of honey and the ants were all gone. 01:40:54.440 --> 01:41:03.440 Oh, wow. Do you think ants communicate strictly to chemical messengers, or do you think they can do electromagnetic things, too? 01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:10.440 They were obviously doing some kind of sign and touch language. 01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:29.440 The first one, they would discuss it a while, and the arrived ant would run around, and they would talk about it some more, and it ran around two or three times, describing how big the drop was before it started eating. 01:41:29.440 --> 01:41:36.440 So these stories about a horse whisperer or a wolf whisperer or whatnot, they actually have basis in reality. 01:41:36.440 --> 01:41:40.440 Apparently, people can learn the language of animals and communicate with them. 01:41:40.440 --> 01:41:55.440 Yeah, I'm convinced that ants, for example, have lived around people enough that they've learned English or whatever language they're around. 01:41:55.440 --> 01:42:19.440 A couple of times when ants were bothering a roommate who was going to get some ant poison, I just firmly and clearly said, "If you don't leave, that person is going to poison you," and they just disappeared. 01:42:19.440 --> 01:42:29.440 You're saying we could experience a Coco the Ant-like situation with sign language. One day we could figure out the ants' language with their arms and things like that? 01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:46.440 I think so. It's obviously a very efficient language that can take a new, totally novel situation like that and size up the nature of the problem. 01:42:46.440 --> 01:42:55.440 So the second ant arriving got the idea in just a brief conversation. 01:42:55.440 --> 01:43:02.440 I interrupted you. Did the ants that were bothering your friend, did they just quickly go away, or what happened? 01:43:02.440 --> 01:43:04.440 Yep, it just disappeared. 01:43:04.440 --> 01:43:19.440 Great stuff. You know, I have one more question. You called mushrooms an inspiration based on their structure and what they're able to do. What are so special about ants? Why are they so amazing to you? 01:43:19.440 --> 01:43:44.440 At a relatively low body temperature, they can be so quick-witted. As they get very cold, then they slow down. But they think and calculate just with amazing efficiency. Basically as smart as anyone. 01:43:44.440 --> 01:43:53.440 Do you think them living in those burrows, basically just like the naked mole rat, they're exposed to high concentrations of carbon dioxide? 01:43:53.440 --> 01:43:55.440 I think so, yeah. 01:43:55.440 --> 01:44:06.440 Have you seen the studies showing that ants don't age? Basically they die either from a predator or a trauma, basically. Something squashes them. But they don't really age. 01:44:06.440 --> 01:44:13.440 That would be the outcome of living in a high CO2 environment, I think. 01:44:13.440 --> 01:44:37.440 Okay, we'll jump to another question after talking about ants for 20 minutes. Macaroni Delta says, what advice can Dr. Peat give regarding the best way to treat romantic grief, i.e. a broken heart? What a physiological or philosophical approach to it be most effective? I think he had more there, but I cut it off. 01:44:37.440 --> 01:44:41.440 Find a substitute or replacement. 01:44:41.440 --> 01:44:45.440 That's excellent. 01:44:45.440 --> 01:44:52.440 That's funny because that's what the dating community would say, is quickly find somebody new. Why do you say that? 01:44:52.440 --> 01:44:55.440 It works. 01:44:55.440 --> 01:45:03.440 So do you think the concept of a soulmate is basically just a fairy tale? In other words, there could be many soulmates? 01:45:03.440 --> 01:45:05.440 Yeah. 01:45:05.440 --> 01:45:07.440 That's really funny. 01:45:07.440 --> 01:45:28.440 Okay, here's a philosopher. You may have heard the expression. I'm blanking on the name. It was a European philosopher. He said that love is the illusion that one woman is more special than another. I guess this can be extended to both sexes. In other words, you can fall in love many, many times and you'll be just as good if it's with the right person. 01:45:28.440 --> 01:45:30.440 Yeah. 01:45:30.440 --> 01:45:42.440 Great stuff. Okay, here's another one. Can you ask Dr. Peate to expand on his views of ontology? He has talked about minang previously. Thanks. 01:45:42.440 --> 01:46:01.440 Yeah, the ontologists have usually been confused, getting mental processes confused with thinking about the nature of reality itself. 01:46:01.440 --> 01:46:18.440 And the idea of continuity and of interaction constantly. Everything is impressing its aspects on everything else. 01:46:18.440 --> 01:46:45.440 And so the nature of being is constantly changing as the world evolves. The substance itself is changing in the ontological sense, the same way a cell changes with experience. 01:46:45.440 --> 01:46:52.440 And that's related to William James' radical empiricism, right? Same thing? 01:46:52.440 --> 01:46:54.440 Right. 01:46:54.440 --> 01:47:02.440 Speaking of him, did you know that he had a concept about stress called reservoirs of power? Did you ever read about that? 01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:04.440 Nope. 01:47:04.440 --> 01:47:10.440 I was reading a book and it was talking about Hans Selye and then it mentioned Canon and it talked about early concepts of stress. 01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:16.440 And then it mentioned William James and I was like, what the heck? I thought he was a philosophical person. 01:47:16.440 --> 01:47:20.440 And then I found a few mentions of something called reservoirs of power. 01:47:20.440 --> 01:47:30.440 And he was basically talking about what I interpreted to be an extreme stress state bringing on another level of accomplishment. 01:47:30.440 --> 01:47:35.440 But it was just interesting because he's clearly talking about, okay, here's the actual quote. 01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:50.440 William James suggested that every person, there are reservoirs of power which are not ordinarily called upon, but which are nevertheless ready to bring forth streams of energy only if the occasion presents itself. 01:47:50.440 --> 01:47:57.440 I don't know, you're familiar with those earlier concepts of stress. Were there any that were interesting to you? 01:47:57.440 --> 01:48:02.440 No, not especially. 01:48:02.440 --> 01:48:07.440 Okay, we'll jump to another question here. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us for Friday. 01:48:07.440 --> 01:48:14.440 Ray, I won't keep you too long. I'll let you go very soon. Thank you so much for hanging out. Thank you, Georgie, for making this possible. 01:48:14.440 --> 01:48:17.440 I have a question about this reservoirs of power. 01:48:17.440 --> 01:48:25.440 There are well-documented cases where mothers are basically capable of lifting cars just to save a child that's been pinned underneath. 01:48:25.440 --> 01:48:34.440 And under normal circumstances, they're not known to come anywhere near close to that level of being able to muster up so much power. 01:48:34.440 --> 01:48:49.440 So, I mean, do you have an idea what may be behind this mechanism? What could be causing the southern and clearly unnatural or at least not normally present amount of muscle contraction force that these women can muster up? 01:48:49.440 --> 01:48:52.440 Is it some kind of a steroid reaction? 01:48:52.440 --> 01:49:15.440 A very good coordination of the chemistry and the nervous innervation, I think, strengthens the fascia and muscles in a physical way that makes the parts stronger to meet the needs of the moment. 01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:26.440 So what would the – I mean, clearly, since these women are not being able to muster up those powers on demand, it's only under extreme circumstances. 01:49:26.440 --> 01:49:38.440 Is there any way this can be trained in a person, in other words, to be – to sort of like improve the condition, the physiology to get closer to that clearly higher potential that we have? 01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:53.440 Yeah, I think it involves things like getting up your pregnenolone basic level and DHEA that strengthens the substance at all levels. 01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:56.440 Great stuff. Ray, I'll only ask you two more questions and then let you go. 01:49:56.440 --> 01:50:03.440 So this one's from Christian, wondering if you could recommend a safe and prothyroid way of oil painting. 01:50:03.440 --> 01:50:06.440 Maybe what substances and habits to avoid when painting. 01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:13.440 Also, maybe if he could talk about his own personal painting practice. 01:50:13.440 --> 01:50:23.440 I try not to use my fingers too much, but I'm always tempted to smear the paint with my fingers. 01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:35.440 That's not a good idea generally. And to have a very good ventilation is the other essential thing. 01:50:35.440 --> 01:50:44.440 Great stuff. And then we'll kind of end it here. Could Ray describe what a typical day of eating looks like for him? 01:50:44.440 --> 01:50:59.440 Very random in a sense, because I got tired of doing it one way and so innovate constantly. 01:50:59.440 --> 01:51:16.440 The common themes are milk, orange juice, eggs, cheeses, occasional cheese tacos, various soups and so on. 01:51:16.440 --> 01:51:20.440 And orange juice seems to be one of those difficult things to find. 01:51:20.440 --> 01:51:25.440 Are you using orange juice concentrate right now or do you have a good source of oranges? 01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:29.440 No, bottled pasteurized orange juice. 01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:34.440 Oh, interesting. Do you have a brand? Because I know a lot of people, I get that question all the time. 01:51:34.440 --> 01:51:38.440 And I haven't been in the US for a long time and I'm not sure what's good or not. 01:51:38.440 --> 01:51:44.440 No, it was just trial and error. I don't remember the brand. 01:51:44.440 --> 01:51:50.440 Awesome. We'll do one more advertisement here. The newsletter, Ray Peat's newsletter that we were talking about earlier is $28. 01:51:50.440 --> 01:51:57.440 You can send that to RayPeatsNewsletter@gmail.com. You can order Ray's books by sending that email, 01:51:57.440 --> 01:52:00.440 a name of the book and they'll send a digital copy to you. 01:52:00.440 --> 01:52:11.440 And then you can order Progest-E from Keenogen, email Catherine, who's very nice and send it out very quickly in a package that provides protection for while the progesterone is traveling. 01:52:11.440 --> 01:52:20.440 And that is it. Any final words here, Ray, that the world is going crazy and things are hard to deal with right now. 01:52:20.440 --> 01:52:26.440 Is there any piece of advice you could give to anybody to maintain? 01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:40.440 Keep learning about the virus. It's currently the most important thing about the reasons for the great dangers of the vaccines. 01:52:40.440 --> 01:52:43.440 And then, Georgie, you as well. 01:52:43.440 --> 01:52:46.440 Last question, really, do you think that the powers that be are winning? 01:52:46.440 --> 01:52:57.440 I mean, I can see it going both ways because this whole technocratic nightmare that they're trying to impose depends on turning the entire population depending on the state. 01:52:57.440 --> 01:53:10.440 But the United States is not really – the empire is not really in a financial position right now to sort of endlessly pay people to do nothing and become dependent simply because it's in such a massive amounts of debt. 01:53:10.440 --> 01:53:22.440 And if you look at this fiat currency thing and the printing, they cannot go on forever because it will essentially destroy the dollars, the reserve currency, and then the dream of the neural order people is going to go down the drain too. 01:53:22.440 --> 01:53:38.440 Yeah. The people getting conscious is the essential thing and it has to advance at a faster rate to prevent the death of the whole system. 01:53:38.440 --> 01:53:49.440 Great stuff. Georgie Dinkov, thank you so much. Ray Peat, it's an honor. Thank you so much for hanging out and continuously hanging out with us and talking. It's so fun. 01:53:49.440 --> 01:53:59.440 Guys, thank you so much. Thank you so much for listening, guys. Have an amazing weekend. Guys, thank you. Have a safe weekend. I'll talk to you guys soon. Okay. Bye, everybody. 01:53:59.440 --> 01:54:28.440 [Music] 01:54:28.440 --> 01:54:38.440 [Music] 01:54:38.440 --> 01:54:48.440 [Music] 01:54:48.440 --> 01:54:58.440 [Music] 01:54:58.440 --> 01:55:08.440 [Music] 01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:18.440 [Music] 01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:28.440 [Music] 01:55:28.440 --> 01:55:38.440 [Music] 01:55:38.440 --> 01:55:48.440 [Music] 01:55:48.440 --> 01:55:58.440 [Music] 01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:18.440 [Music]