WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.240 Okay, General of Energy number 82 with Ray Peat and Georgi Dinkov. 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:06.440 And Ray, you were just saying you were reading about the war. 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:11.620 And so I'm sure to the chagrin, is that the right phrasing, to everybody that hated the 00:00:11.620 --> 00:00:16.380 last time we talked about this stuff, I do want to talk about the Ukraine and Russia 00:00:16.380 --> 00:00:17.380 once again. 00:00:17.380 --> 00:00:22.600 So give us, I don't know, give us maybe an update of your point of view and everything 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:27.560 you've learned or that's transpired since then and where you think this is all heading, 00:00:27.560 --> 00:00:29.880 et cetera. 00:00:29.880 --> 00:00:39.080 I actually think it's all a piece with the pandemic. 00:00:39.080 --> 00:00:51.240 I think all of it was planned out years ahead to do anything to destroy the economy so that 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:57.160 the monopolies will have total power. 00:00:57.160 --> 00:01:01.800 And so like a planned out war, do you think if they said, "Oh, if we do this, then Russia 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:02.800 will do that." 00:01:02.800 --> 00:01:05.000 It's like that planned out to a T? 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:14.640 Yeah, I've read two or three articles, different people predicting exactly what's happening 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:20.840 now in Ukraine and Europe eight years ago. 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:21.840 Oh, wow. 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:26.440 Do you think China and Russia are also kind of benefiting from this war too? 00:01:26.440 --> 00:01:30.720 They're using it to cover their own political and economic problems? 00:01:30.720 --> 00:01:34.160 Oh, definitely. 00:01:34.160 --> 00:01:43.320 The likely outcome, if they don't resort to nuclear war, will be for Russia and China 00:01:43.320 --> 00:01:46.760 to totally dominate the world economy. 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:59.440 And that's why the World Economic Forum class is in such a panic now for at least 10 years. 00:01:59.440 --> 00:02:02.240 How close do you think we are to nuclear war? 00:02:02.240 --> 00:02:08.680 What is the likelihood of that happening in your point of view? 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:23.440 The chances within the next two hours are moderate and increasing from then unless there's 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:32.360 a dramatic reason for settling and establishing peace in Ukraine. 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:37.000 Did something happen a few hours ago or today or yesterday? 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:42.280 No, just the last several days. 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:55.440 Everyone's intention has been expressed and they are starting to realize that Russia so 00:02:55.440 --> 00:03:04.760 far has definitely been winning and that they're on the threshold of totally losing the empire 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:20.760 and for the whole world to start reorienting around the Asian economic system. 00:03:20.760 --> 00:03:26.280 Something we might have touched on last time we talked, but I have since done a mild amount 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:31.080 of investigation into, but apparently the CIA was supporting all those white nationalist 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.040 groups in the Ukraine. 00:03:33.040 --> 00:03:36.880 And so maybe we didn't touch on the CIA connection. 00:03:36.880 --> 00:03:41.280 We've been talking about the CIA for at least a little while now. 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:42.280 What do you think about that? 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.280 Does that make the whole situation a little bit more clear if a person is under the impression 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:52.400 that the CIA is kind of the tool of the ruling elite and then they've been for 50 years supporting 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.040 the white nationalist groups in the Ukraine? 00:03:55.040 --> 00:04:07.440 Yeah, and remember when we talked about World War II and the outcome of why the Cold War 00:04:07.440 --> 00:04:27.280 started, the Dulles and Bushes and the banker class in general was working creating Hitler 00:04:27.280 --> 00:04:29.760 for their basic purpose. 00:04:29.760 --> 00:04:38.400 The first World War, the basic purpose of the ruling class is to get access to Russia's 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:43.840 resources without the Russians. 00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:47.520 That's been on the record for a long time. 00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:57.560 The Germans had the documents saying that the Russians who couldn't be slave labor would 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:09.120 be sent off to starve in Siberia, so essentially eliminating the population so that Germany 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:10.920 could have the resources. 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:24.920 But the United Kingdom and the US weren't happy with that falling solely into the Germans' 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:25.920 control. 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:36.520 So they worked with Hitler, supported his war against Russia to the extent that they 00:05:36.520 --> 00:05:44.120 figured they could destroy Russia and then take on Germany. 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:56.440 All of that was in place behind the scenes during Roosevelt's management of the war. 00:05:56.440 --> 00:06:08.760 Both England and the US were stalling month after month, joining the war. 00:06:08.760 --> 00:06:19.680 Stalin said, "Wasn't it raining too much for you to invade the continent?" 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:28.400 Finally when they saw that Russia was just driving straight through to the West, that 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:36.200 was when they invaded to stop the Russians halfway. 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:48.080 But instantly when Roosevelt died, that faction represented by Harry Truman was in control. 00:06:48.080 --> 00:06:59.160 Since Truman, the support of the Nazis and working with the Nazis everywhere, Ukrainians 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:12.840 and Hungarian fascists, Polish fascists, everyone who lost their power temporarily in Europe 00:07:12.840 --> 00:07:23.600 moved to North America mostly, Canada and the US, and now those people are adding their 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:28.320 weight to American policy. 00:07:28.320 --> 00:07:40.560 The Ukrainian fascists have been in business right since they allied themselves with Hitler 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:42.640 during the war. 00:07:42.640 --> 00:07:46.600 Just to be clear, I think we have talked about this before, but Nazism, the huge problem 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.960 with it in your view is the eugenicist aspect of it. 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:53.880 Because again, if you like Trump now, you're like a Nazi or something. 00:07:53.880 --> 00:07:58.760 So just to clarify that term. 00:07:58.760 --> 00:08:12.400 No, it's a whole scheme for the World Economic Forum type, the absolute ruling class, to 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:14.560 control everything. 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:29.760 Not just genocide, it's just something along the way to make that happen and become stable. 00:08:29.760 --> 00:08:36.400 But it's an idea of ruling the world. 00:08:36.400 --> 00:08:40.760 And then, George, you can interrupt at any time, a comment I received multiple times 00:08:40.760 --> 00:08:44.160 after the last conversation was, "What is Ray talking about here? 00:08:44.160 --> 00:08:45.680 Isn't he anti-war?" 00:08:45.680 --> 00:08:48.760 And so how do you... 00:08:48.760 --> 00:09:00.160 A few days ago, Trump put out a statement saying that for the good of the world, peace 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:03.640 has to be established in Ukraine. 00:09:03.640 --> 00:09:11.840 And he's supporting two anti-war candidates for Congress. 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:20.760 And so part of his being called a Nazi is that he's against war. 00:09:20.760 --> 00:09:29.920 But I guess in the empire game, there isn't really a way to be a pacifist or... 00:09:29.920 --> 00:09:31.920 I know you don't think... 00:09:31.920 --> 00:09:38.400 Do you think violence is necessary, or maybe for the elites to use violence? 00:09:38.400 --> 00:09:39.880 What do you think about that? 00:09:39.880 --> 00:09:44.480 You're not happy that people are dying in the Ukraine or Russia, right? 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.520 No, the sooner they can stop it. 00:09:48.520 --> 00:09:56.040 As Trump said, peace in the Ukraine is the central world issue right now. 00:09:56.040 --> 00:10:00.560 But at the same time, without this war, the empire would have relentlessly continued subjugating 00:10:00.560 --> 00:10:03.720 and crushing everything in its path. 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:13.880 Yeah, Putin has said that the outcome looks like it's going to be ending the Western hegemony. 00:10:13.880 --> 00:10:19.520 What do you think that will manifest as? 00:10:19.520 --> 00:10:27.440 Well, without the Asian and the Russian and the Indian economy, if they form a new center, 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:32.840 and if that's the new economic center, what is the Western world going to do with its 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.720 collapsing slash non-existent economy? 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.880 I mean, wouldn't that mean collapse? 00:10:37.880 --> 00:10:43.200 And in that case, the elite loses its power? 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:55.000 I'm afraid it will turn into something much less than a third world, that the Shah of 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:05.000 Iran might be a model for the government of the West. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.040 If there's a widespread economic collapse, in other words, if basically... 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:10.960 Where is this power of the elite? 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:14.080 What is it going to be based on if all of their money suddenly is worthless? 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:19.120 I mean, all of their possessions abroad will probably be confiscated, as Russia has already 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.440 started doing. 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.840 Chinese will probably follow suit soon enough. 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:28.680 And then if basically the world dumps the Western model, doesn't the power of the elite 00:11:28.680 --> 00:11:29.680 disappear as well? 00:11:29.680 --> 00:11:32.680 The only thing they have remaining is weapons. 00:11:32.680 --> 00:11:43.720 Oh, they'll declare the common people their enemy, like the Shah of Iran did. 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:44.720 Oh wow. 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:50.000 So basically they'll start cannibalizing each other as a way of maintaining power? 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.240 I think so. 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:57.680 Another first time we talked about is, where does Israel play into this whole empire game? 00:11:57.680 --> 00:12:02.400 You see them as just kind of regulating the US's activities, or how do they work into 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:04.640 what's happening right now? 00:12:04.640 --> 00:12:18.960 They are leaders in insisting that there are no Nazis in Ukraine, even though the leaders 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:31.160 of the Azov factions fly at swastikas and declare that they have all of the German Nazi 00:12:31.160 --> 00:12:37.160 symbols and salutes and phrases. 00:12:37.160 --> 00:12:49.000 So it's impossible to say that they're not Nazis, but Israel is saying, since they aren't 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:57.360 having Jewish genocide, at least not on a large scale, they can't be Nazis. 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:03.880 That's the extent of Israel's reasoning about Nazism. 00:13:03.880 --> 00:13:15.640 But they are practicing genocide against Russians, so they right now aren't focusing on Jews, 00:13:15.640 --> 00:13:18.720 though they probably will eventually. 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:30.320 But people in Israel are talking about the Ukraine as the New Jerusalem, historically, 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:35.320 arguing that it's an extension of Israel. 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.320 Is that a prophecy thing? 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:46.440 Yeah, I think it's the whole thing about the New Jerusalem. 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:55.200 I've been hearing about it for many decades, but I don't really have an investigation of 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:56.880 what the theological side is. 00:13:56.880 --> 00:13:58.520 Oh, I didn't know that. 00:13:58.520 --> 00:14:03.960 So this could be part of a whole biblical or Talmudic type of thing? 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:04.960 This whole... yeah. 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.680 It's shocking to find that stuff out. 00:14:08.680 --> 00:14:11.280 Go ahead, George. 00:14:11.280 --> 00:14:15.040 A little bit back to the war. 00:14:15.040 --> 00:14:20.560 I keep coming back to this theme that basically if the West uses control of the world financial 00:14:20.560 --> 00:14:26.600 markets and of the world's productive resources and activity, then what is even the elite 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.000 going to do with all of its fake money? 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:35.240 How are they going to get the things they need if almost nothing is produced in the 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.280 developed world anymore? 00:14:37.280 --> 00:14:43.600 Is war essentially their only resort, basically, third world war? 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:59.200 I think their plan is to use the military to control the basket of deplorables. 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:00.880 Us basically? 00:15:00.880 --> 00:15:02.080 Mm-hmm. 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:03.320 Okay. 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:08.280 So it will turn, just like you said, the Shah of Iran basically will be brutal dictatorship, 00:15:08.280 --> 00:15:14.240 the so-called Western world, and then food will be rationed or non-existent altogether? 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:16.440 That's kind of where things are going? 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:17.440 Yeah. 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:24.920 If you're a well-behaving robot, then your bank account will show enough for food. 00:15:24.920 --> 00:15:26.540 Okay. 00:15:26.540 --> 00:15:31.160 So we were talking about that a little bit before we hit the record button. 00:15:31.160 --> 00:15:34.360 I think people really don't like when we talk about this stuff, but don't offer any type 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:35.360 of solution. 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:40.680 And so we kind of understand the chess pieces that are being put in place in terms of a 00:15:40.680 --> 00:15:43.360 digital ID and not being able to obtain food. 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:47.100 And so I guess, how are you inoculating yourself from those types of things? 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:53.960 Or what would you tell other people to maybe think about? 00:15:53.960 --> 00:16:00.960 Digital people on the internet are giving instructions on how to make your own food, 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:09.320 if necessary, growing it in your windowsill and on your roof and front yard instead of 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.080 a lawn and so on. 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:16.440 And are there, from your point of view, are there things you could grow that are calorically 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:22.680 dense enough to really make a dent in a person's diet, I guess? 00:16:22.680 --> 00:16:34.520 Because really on a moderate plot of land, some of the fairly high-calorie root vegetables. 00:16:34.520 --> 00:16:37.720 And just, I know we've talked about it before, but to run through them, like sugar, maybe 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.920 buying gelatin, ghee, what else? 00:16:41.920 --> 00:16:50.960 Yeah, it's good to have a few years of that stuff stored up. 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:54.640 We get a few beehives for them to produce honey. 00:16:54.640 --> 00:17:03.880 Yeah, if you have nearby vegetation that they can eat. 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:06.960 Do you think they'll allow, again, I'm asking you to speculate here, but do you think they'll 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.040 allow the cities to just become completely chaotic? 00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:15.600 Like a lot of those, maybe the Fabian Society, they have a motto of "order through chaos." 00:17:15.600 --> 00:17:19.600 And so how crazy do you think they would let it get? 00:17:19.600 --> 00:17:32.880 I think the police have the resources to keep everything, a lot of dead dissenters and other 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:33.880 things peaceful. 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:38.840 Okay, well, we can move on here unless, George, you have other questions. 00:17:38.840 --> 00:17:44.280 But what, we didn't talk really about the vaccine stuff last episode, and so a lot has 00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:46.120 transpired I think since then. 00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:51.680 And so you're probably familiar with them more than I am, but haven't some major landmark 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.640 studies come out saying that something we've been talking about probably since the beginning, 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.520 that the spike protein would not be localized, that it would venture into every part of the 00:18:00.520 --> 00:18:02.640 body and cause harm? 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.200 Is there anything you've learned since the last two months ago, last time we talked, 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:12.680 that is interesting about the vaccines? 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:25.040 The weight of the evidence is that Bhakti and Eden were essentially right, that it isn't 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:39.280 just a temporary risk of death, but that it's a very prolonged, maybe lifelong or transgenerational 00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:43.320 risk of degenerative disease and death. 00:18:43.320 --> 00:18:48.760 Did you see the new studies of the deadly hepatitis in children? 00:18:48.760 --> 00:18:53.720 I didn't get that. 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:58.160 Over the last week, there have been news from all over the world, actually, from multiple 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:07.080 countries about the identification of a worrying rise of cases of hepatitis in children of 00:19:07.080 --> 00:19:13.160 unknown origin and basically it's so severe that about half of the children require liver 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:17.680 transplants and some children have already died. 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:30.880 No organ is exempt and autopsies, not very many, but extremely clear evidence, macroscopic 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:41.800 evidence in the autopsies of continued presence of the spike protein months and up to a year 00:19:41.800 --> 00:19:56.480 after the vaccine and evidence that they died of the vaccine with remote organs, the blood 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:13.840 vessels being infected by the spike RNA produced the antigen spike and the immune system kills 00:20:13.840 --> 00:20:22.120 the lining of the blood vessels that are infected and so there's a prolonged, maybe lifelong 00:20:22.120 --> 00:20:31.080 attack of the immune system against your own blood vessels leading to clots and having 00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:43.720 microscopic or macroscopic clots in the various vessels can create a wide variety of very 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.960 nasty diseases. 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:51.680 Are you familiar with the condition Kawasaki disease? 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:56.320 Not very familiar, but I know it's a clotting disorder. 00:20:56.320 --> 00:21:02.080 Yeah, it's a chronic inflammation of the blood vessels and basically the cases of this 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:06.400 have been rapidly rising again over the last two years and they're claiming they don't 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.160 know what's causing it. 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.240 Do you think the vaccines are capable of causing that? 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:22.680 I think any vaccine is capable of causing it, just injecting aluminum hydroxide affects 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:23.680 the brain. 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:34.120 The particles travel not just into the bloodstream, but up the nerve axons into the brain cells 00:21:34.120 --> 00:21:42.240 themselves modifying the brain so that the brain creates ongoing inflammation. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:49.000 Kind of a weird question, but do you think the vaccines are more effective than the ruling 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:56.120 elite thought or less effective? 00:21:56.120 --> 00:22:15.840 Probably more effective than they imagined in their design in the sense of killing people. 00:22:15.840 --> 00:22:25.000 And you think that multi-schedule thing is to obscure the harm that they're doing? 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.840 Or are you saying that whole mechanism is kind of a slow death or it's going to accelerate 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:32.440 any age-related problem the person happens? 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.480 That's why it's a little bit ambiguous what specifically is going to happen to a person 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.760 when they get one of those? 00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:50.400 If you look at the newest information, both from the UK and some coming out of the US, 00:22:50.400 --> 00:23:02.560 the more shots a person has, the more likely they are to die or be hospitalized or be infected. 00:23:02.560 --> 00:23:11.680 One group of studies showed that with the two shots and a booster, you were twice as 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:16.280 likely to die or be hospitalized. 00:23:16.280 --> 00:23:27.000 The others in the UK show a three-fold increase in those serious outcomes for having the booster 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:28.000 shot. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:34.000 What do you think of the data coming out of the UK and Germany showing the potential that 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:40.960 vaccines may cause vaccine-induced AIDS or VAIDS as they call it? 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:45.000 I haven't seen those. 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:50.000 Do you think they have the potential of causing chronic immune deficiency? 00:23:50.000 --> 00:24:06.440 Yeah, chronic immune arousal is at the same time causing deficient defective immunity. 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.160 So the body will be busy attacking its own inflamed tissues instead of being capable 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.720 of handling a new infection from an unknown virus? 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:28.280 Yeah, autoimmune people are an example, sort of mild example of what is probably happening 00:24:28.280 --> 00:24:32.520 to the mass of the vaccinated people. 00:24:32.520 --> 00:24:36.560 Ray, you've been interacting with the public for a long time. 00:24:36.560 --> 00:24:40.920 Are you finding it harder and harder to do that, maybe since people are cumulatively 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.920 becoming more crazy? 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.840 I would say people are becoming dumber. 00:24:45.840 --> 00:24:48.040 Let's just be blunt about it. 00:24:48.040 --> 00:24:55.080 Has that been especially difficult, maybe this year or last year? 00:24:55.080 --> 00:24:59.960 I'm getting more emails than ever before. 00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:08.720 And the extreme fanatics have stopped sending me threatening letters. 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:13.800 Maybe they got vaccinated. 00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:17.440 Maybe the vaccine did do something good after all. 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:24.280 I know you said it provides you information and orientation, but it doesn't take a toll 00:25:24.280 --> 00:25:28.920 on you or something like that, communicating with totally crazy people? 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:34.120 Or do you feel like it's your duty because you critique the culture so you should support 00:25:34.120 --> 00:25:36.400 people and their fight against it? 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.280 Or how do you feel about the whole thing? 00:25:40.280 --> 00:25:49.320 As far as I can, I try to give them any available insight or support. 00:25:49.320 --> 00:25:55.000 But even when that insight is immediately turned around and posted on a forum and disregarded 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:04.240 or something, I guess you could care less about what people are saying on the internet. 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:11.680 How do you constructively use your time, given that it's so easy to spiral out of control 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:17.040 or to be depressed about the whole situation? 00:26:17.040 --> 00:26:30.800 I keep working to some extent on things I've been interested in for many years, mainly 00:26:30.800 --> 00:26:47.520 in the idea of ordering principles, the physics of life and potential. 00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:53.840 And I almost never talk about that because people don't often ask me. 00:26:53.840 --> 00:27:06.480 But I'm paying more and more attention to physical questions and what the possibilities 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:16.520 are suggested by some of these eccentric physical ideas. 00:27:16.520 --> 00:27:25.840 So for you, your work is the guiding principle of your life? 00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:28.240 Your work, what you feel like you need to accomplish. 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:41.000 Yeah, it's all one piece, whether it's biology or physics or ideas about consciousness. 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:48.000 Georgie, interrupt me at any time, we only have an hour with Ray today so we're going 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.320 to cut it pretty short here. 00:27:49.320 --> 00:27:53.360 But I have kind of a, I don't know if this is maybe a fun question, but Ray, if a germ-free 00:27:53.360 --> 00:28:01.000 rat, who would win in a battle of enduring stress between a germ-free rat and an EFA 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.800 essential fatty acid so-called deficient rat? 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:04.800 Who do you think would win that? 00:28:04.800 --> 00:28:09.160 Oh, I've heard of EFA deficient. 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.160 And why do you think that? 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:29.880 The experiments that have been done, the germ-free live longer, healthier, but they don't have 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:38.240 the powerful stress resistance that the fatty acid deficient rats have. 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.360 Is there something that can bind with and deactivate PUFA? 00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:43.360 Well, it's in the bloodstream. 00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:49.920 I think you mentioned vitamin E once, I think it was Salia's idea or Brotobarn's, I forget. 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.360 But is there any substance that can actually bind with those fatty acids and make them 00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:56.760 less harmful? 00:28:56.760 --> 00:29:00.160 Not in the blood, I think. 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:06.000 It has to be the liver and kidneys excreting them. 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:13.400 Right, but I'm saying, so in terms of, we cannot really saturate them on demand while 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:17.600 they're floating around in the blood or binding them in a way that basically prevents them 00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:19.860 from doing their damage. 00:29:19.860 --> 00:29:22.840 This is only done in specific organs. 00:29:22.840 --> 00:29:32.640 So far, it's only intestinal or rumen bacteria using vitamin E that can do that. 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:33.640 Okay. 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:40.280 Do you think it's feasible to develop something that, there are now drugs on the market that 00:29:40.280 --> 00:29:45.400 inhibit the absorption of all fats from the intestine. 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.400 Is there, do you think it would be possible to develop something that targets specifically 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.040 the less saturated fats? 00:29:51.040 --> 00:30:00.160 Oh, yeah, I'm sure that would be possible because they have a greater tendency to absorb 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:04.640 at certain surfaces. 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:12.000 Again moving on subjects here, but I was watching a documentary on the cartels producing fentanyl 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.760 and I thought of your, what is it Ray, the Biological Balance and Addiction newsletter 00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:19.520 you wrote many years ago. 00:30:19.520 --> 00:30:24.320 And so I was thinking about the fentanyl, like what, is that having an anti-stress effect 00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.240 that makes people very addicted to it? 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:34.240 And then maybe just explain your view of what happens when somebody becomes, like using 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.280 this in parentheses, but like addicted to a substance. 00:30:37.280 --> 00:30:42.320 What in your view that meaning behind that would be? 00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:56.960 Some of this sense of freedom from social pain, a family that says they're worthless 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:03.920 or a society that makes them feel worthless. 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:15.120 They can just go into a dreamy state under the influence of morphine for example. 00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:30.600 But that is imitating in some ways the euphoria that good steroid hormones should be producing. 00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:41.680 And so part of the predisposition to use the drugs is that the stressful social conditions 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:55.040 they're in are turning up their harmful hormones and suppressing their own progesterone, DHEA 00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:58.000 and pregnenolone. 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:08.640 And that was how I found out that pregnenolone can help people withdraw pretty quickly from 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.240 the opiates. 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.160 Quick question about pregnenolone. 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.200 Why do you think no pharma company so far has tried to develop pregnenolone or at least 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:27.400 use it or even in medicine as a sort of like the mother of all hormone replacement therapies? 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:32.360 I mean if it's the precursor for all of them, wouldn't something like a transdermal cream 00:32:32.360 --> 00:32:39.680 or a suppository or some other kind of a product that basically contains pregnenolone be able 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:45.440 to replace all of these other HRTs that are trying to sell to the public? 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.560 Was there ever an attempt earlier in the 20th century to do that or they never tried it? 00:32:50.560 --> 00:33:02.480 In the early 1950s, there were studies showing that it's much better than cortisone or cortisol 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.640 for the uses. 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:11.400 Those have anti-inflammatory and so on. 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:21.360 But it's rolled in the system, makes it even worse than progesterone. 00:33:21.360 --> 00:33:34.040 Progesterone cures essentially everything, trauma, all of the degenerative and stress-related 00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:37.520 diseases. 00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:48.360 And it's hormonally more powerful than pregnenolone, but pregnenolone has the same position in 00:33:48.360 --> 00:33:50.440 the system. 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:59.200 When you take other hormones, the body's production of that hormone decreases. 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:07.360 But in the case of progesterone and pregnenolone, those substances support the body's production 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:15.480 of more up to their ability to make more. 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:24.560 So if you're deficient in progesterone, sometimes a single dose or two can activate your body 00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:34.600 to return to normal production if you have the thyroid, vitamin A, and cholesterol needed. 00:34:34.600 --> 00:34:40.960 And to a degree, the same situation with pregnenolone. 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:54.600 It stabilizes the damaged mitochondria and makes it possible for your cells to organize 00:34:54.600 --> 00:35:03.120 energy production and more pregnenolone and progesterone production. 00:35:03.120 --> 00:35:17.760 The drug companies first realized that the progesterone and DHEA were terrible drugs 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.240 because they tend to cure diseases. 00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:33.800 And the effects of pregnenolone, there are no recognized hormonal effects. 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:45.200 But if you have enough of it, in experiments, a rat, for example, would be given 10 grams 00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:58.160 per rat per dose of pregnenolone with no harmful effects except to stop stress hormone production. 00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:10.440 And so pregnenolone is a relatively expensive material if you supplement it adequately. 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:23.640 But since it isn't patentable, those three steroids are something that it's just a matter 00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:31.920 of the cost of producing them and marketing them. 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:41.360 They could essentially cure most of the current diseases if they were made available massively 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.600 and cheaply. 00:36:43.600 --> 00:36:47.800 But that doesn't interest the drug companies because they don't have patents. 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.760 So I guess my question was, was pregnenolone ever considered by the drug companies even 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.160 before they realized it's going to basically destroy their business? 00:36:56.160 --> 00:37:00.360 But was there ever a publication or a conference that you were aware of that a doctor stood 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.040 up and said, "Hey, instead of giving all these people these individual hormones, here 00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:10.480 we have pregnenolone," which seems to be the rate-limiting step to synthesizing everything 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:11.480 else. 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:16.840 "Why bother trying to calculate this optimal dosage for, I don't know, estrogen or testosterone, 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:17.840 cortisol? 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:18.840 Let's give everybody pregnenolone." 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.040 Was there ever a movement discussing this? 00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:24.960 No. 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:36.400 There was a symposium in 1950 that revealed the curative effects of pregnenolone and progesterone. 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:49.200 But right in that same symposium, following an article on how I think it was progesterone 00:37:49.200 --> 00:38:00.520 massive amounts was causing cervical cancer to disappear, that same journal published 00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:11.680 an article on treating cancer with estrogen and their own data showed that estrogen caused 00:38:11.680 --> 00:38:21.000 the cancer to become worse and they concluded that estrogen has great promise as a cancer 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.120 therapy. 00:38:24.120 --> 00:38:37.040 The data pharmacologists and the research community was intelligent enough to know that 00:38:37.040 --> 00:38:43.920 a drug that could cure a disease but not be patented was worthless. 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:52.400 Was there a symposium in Mexico where Sally, I think, had a presentation? 00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:00.240 I think it was published with Abraham White, I think, was the editor. 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:02.680 Yeah, I have that in a PDF. 00:39:02.680 --> 00:39:06.000 I think it was in Mexico and there are a few studies on pregnenolone that were presented 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.560 at that symposium. 00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:12.640 I hate to bring it back to the Russia stuff, but I did think this last time and want to 00:39:12.640 --> 00:39:13.640 bring it up. 00:39:13.640 --> 00:39:18.480 I think a lot of, at least for myself, I'm trying to figure out what's going on and I 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.160 peruse my news sources to try to figure out what's going on in Ukraine, Russia, etc. 00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:27.360 But Ray, in Mind and Tissue, you're talking about one of the themes of Russian culture 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:32.600 has been that of the potential to waiting to be fulfilled, Russia waiting to lead the 00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:36.520 world into a spiritual awakening, the spiritual richness of peasants, etc. 00:39:36.520 --> 00:39:41.920 And so what I'm trying to point out is that when was this book, you published this when 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.040 I was born, I think in 1985, and so for you this... 00:39:46.040 --> 00:39:49.320 Oh, no, I wrote that in 1973. 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.400 Oh, well, even better. 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.720 So anyways, you're like a Russian scholar, you know, you've been thinking about Russia 00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:03.080 for a very long time, and so you didn't just consume some news source that taught you how 00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:04.080 to think about this. 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:08.720 And so for you, have you been thinking that this was going to happen for a long time, 00:40:08.720 --> 00:40:13.840 this empire clash, and it's just kind of crazy that you're living through it? 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:27.120 It was just sort of a vague suspicion 50 years ago, but that's what you infer from reading 00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:44.960 people like Dostoevsky and Tolstoy and the psychologists, that they see a certain spiritual, 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:56.720 psychological, cultural attitude as being necessary to save the world. 00:40:56.720 --> 00:41:02.520 And then the West is like beyond rehabilitation, or maybe nothing is beyond rehabilitation, 00:41:02.520 --> 00:41:04.360 but it seems extremely unlikely. 00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:09.840 And so maybe Russia is a chance for a future of humanity? 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:26.600 Yeah, exactly, because through the way Christianity reached Russia, they didn't make the fundamental 00:41:26.600 --> 00:41:34.240 mistakes about the nature of reality and the nature of human being. 00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:49.800 And the West is so committed to a kind of individualistic, random management of the 00:41:49.800 --> 00:42:01.880 physical world that the mental, spiritual world doesn't rest on any kind of real cosmology. 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.560 Okay, I'm going to let you go in a second here, but I want to do this advertisement. 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:09.560 So you can purchase your newsletter, there was a price change, right? 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00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.080 Was that just you got so many questions and inspired you to write that? 00:43:03.080 --> 00:43:04.560 That wasn't like a newsletter, right? 00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:08.440 No, it was just a page. 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:09.440 I thought it was really useful. 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:10.840 And I kind of posted it everywhere. 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:12.720 I hope you don't mind that I did that. 00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:17.240 That was very useful and I think it clarified things for a lot of people. 00:43:17.240 --> 00:43:18.560 So I appreciate you doing that. 00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:21.120 And so, okay, let's wrap up here. 00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:25.480 And Ray, just let us know what you're working on for next. 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:32.400 Oh, the last newsletter was on cancer. 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:45.240 And I'm going to fill in some of the background of that around some of the messenger substances 00:43:45.240 --> 00:43:58.640 that can be controlled to some extent to even actually not just preventing cancer, but if 00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:06.200 you do it in a highly supportive way, even sometimes redress cancer. 00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:07.200 Amazing. 00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:10.080 That was a fast hour. 00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:12.360 Thank you so much for joining us. 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:13.360 Really appreciate it. 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.680 And again, guys, we have an hour with Ray and we're not going to exceed that. 00:44:16.680 --> 00:44:18.240 Georgie Dinkov, thank you so much. 00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:20.120 I thought we covered a lot of ground. 00:44:20.120 --> 00:44:21.600 Really appreciate you, Ray. 00:44:21.600 --> 00:44:23.680 And stay on the line here and we'll end the show. 00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:25.320 Guys, thank you so much for watching. 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:26.400 We have an amazing audience. 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:27.400 Really appreciate you guys. 00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.920 We'll be back probably two weeks from now. 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:30.920 Thanks again. 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:31.920 Have a safe weekend and we'll talk to you guys soon. 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:32.920 Okay.