WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.440 Expensive and bad information. 00:00:02.440 --> 00:00:04.120 Know the source. 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.400 OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.280 - Well, a very pleasant good morning to you 00:00:09.280 --> 00:00:12.200 and for those of you who just heard our first show, 00:00:12.200 --> 00:00:13.560 well, welcome back. 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:14.920 We just had to take a little break here 00:00:14.920 --> 00:00:15.920 to get connected up. 00:00:15.920 --> 00:00:17.360 It didn't take long. 00:00:17.360 --> 00:00:18.840 My name is Patrick Timpone 00:00:18.840 --> 00:00:20.720 and we are live here this morning, 00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:24.200 live with Dr. Ray Peat. 00:00:24.200 --> 00:00:26.080 Dr. Peat is a PhD. 00:00:26.080 --> 00:00:27.920 He's been at this a very long time. 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:30.840 It is raypeat.com 00:00:30.840 --> 00:00:32.640 and you can get his newsletter. 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:34.120 We'll tell you how to do that. 00:00:34.120 --> 00:00:39.120 He has an amazing amount of material there, 00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:42.200 all kinds of articles that will, 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:47.120 I think will help you to look at health 00:00:47.120 --> 00:00:52.120 in a way that a man with many, many years of experience, 00:00:52.120 --> 00:00:57.280 going back to his work with progesterone and hormones 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:59.680 back into the mid 60s 00:00:59.680 --> 00:01:04.680 and he's done papers in physiological chemistry 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.600 and physics in '71 and '72. 00:01:08.600 --> 00:01:12.200 His dissertation, University of Oregon in '72, 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.760 outlined ideas regarding progesterone 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.200 and hormones closely related to it. 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.880 Dr. Ray Peat is here on the third Monday of each month 00:01:21.880 --> 00:01:23.280 and it's just, Dr. Peat, 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.440 thank you so much for coming once a month 00:01:25.440 --> 00:01:27.360 and appreciate your patience 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:29.160 with starting a little bit late. 00:01:29.160 --> 00:01:31.720 How are things up in the Northwest, sir? 00:01:31.720 --> 00:01:33.680 - Oh, pretty good. 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:37.800 The weather has been warmer than usual 00:01:37.800 --> 00:01:40.600 for several days now, a little rain. 00:01:40.600 --> 00:01:43.920 - Yeah, but things are well up there, huh? 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.120 - Yeah, spring is coming on. 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.120 - Before we, I wanna talk a little bit 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:51.560 about the exosomes and viruses and Zach Bush's work 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.240 that I got turned on more mostly because of you. 00:01:55.240 --> 00:01:56.640 You mentioned it last month. 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:01.560 What are some of the biggest things 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:02.760 that you have learned over the years 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:05.440 looking at hormones and progesterone and all that? 00:02:05.440 --> 00:02:07.800 I think, what now, almost 40 years, right? 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:12.840 Did you come across a lot of things that you changed 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:15.000 and your whole idea changed on it, 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.080 research and experience over those years? 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:22.480 - Oh, yeah, my own diet has changed a lot 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:26.880 as I'm studying the effects of estrogen 00:02:26.880 --> 00:02:31.880 interacting with fertility and aging in animals, for example. 00:02:31.880 --> 00:02:37.320 I came across lots of research going back to the 1940s 00:02:37.320 --> 00:02:43.760 showing that the polyunsaturated fats are estrogenic, 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:49.000 that vitamin E, going back to the Schutz work in the 1930s, 00:02:50.440 --> 00:02:53.840 is an anti-estrogen, anti-inflammatory. 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.440 Estrogen is both pro-inflammation 00:02:58.440 --> 00:03:02.280 and pro-cancer and pro-aging. 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.280 But the arrival of the estrogen industry in 1940 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:13.200 changed the world's interpretation of not only estrogen 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:19.920 but vitamin E and the polyunsaturated fatty acids. 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:24.920 So that was kind of a turning point in my diet. 00:03:24.920 --> 00:03:26.040 - Interesting. 00:03:26.040 --> 00:03:31.000 So vitamin E, even supplementally, Dr. Peat, 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.480 is a good anti-estrogen thing, 00:03:34.480 --> 00:03:37.480 which generally is good to keep estrogen happy, 00:03:37.480 --> 00:03:39.760 or did I misinterpret what you say? 00:03:39.760 --> 00:03:43.360 - Yeah, it's anti-inflammatory 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.600 and that amounts pretty much to being anti-estrogenic. 00:03:47.600 --> 00:03:52.600 And vitamin E facilitates good oxidation 00:03:52.600 --> 00:03:58.880 where estrogen interferes with the proper use of oxygen. 00:03:58.880 --> 00:04:02.160 That's the core function of estrogen 00:04:02.160 --> 00:04:07.160 is to block normal respiration of cells. 00:04:07.160 --> 00:04:11.760 - Do you think we get enough, 00:04:11.760 --> 00:04:14.560 can we get enough vitamin E through the sunlight? 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:17.560 - No, vitamin E-- 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.920 - I'm sorry, I'm confusing D and E. 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:22.480 Sorry, I got confused. 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.120 Go ahead, yeah. 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:29.080 - If we have a diet free of polyunsaturated fats 00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:31.800 and no exposure to estrogens, 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.800 then we need extremely little vitamin E 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:40.160 because its main function is defensive 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:45.160 against the estrogenic substances and polyunsaturated fats. 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:51.080 But if you are already fairly well saturated 00:04:51.080 --> 00:04:56.960 with the PUFA fats, 00:04:56.960 --> 00:05:00.200 then your requirement for vitamin E 00:05:00.200 --> 00:05:03.240 goes up and up with aging. 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:07.160 Some studies suggested that the older you get, 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.680 the more vitamin E you need 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.800 just to prevent the rancidity 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:16.160 of the polyunsaturated fats in your tissues. 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.960 Some studies suggested that it reached a need 00:05:20.960 --> 00:05:25.200 for 400 milligrams of vitamin E per day 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:29.440 by the time of middle age or menopause. 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:33.920 But at that point, no matter how much you take, 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.040 the rancidity is going to take over 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.560 and have an estrogenic pro-aging, 00:05:41.640 --> 00:05:43.800 pro-inflammatory effect. 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:48.800 So the only real solution is to minimize the absorption 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:52.880 of the polyunsaturated fats. 00:05:52.880 --> 00:05:55.920 - And what are the biggest ones that people consume 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.240 ongoing, say, in our culture, PUFAs? 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.280 Would that be like the Wesson oil and these kinds of things, 00:06:03.280 --> 00:06:06.920 these really bad oils from the store? 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:08.160 - The liquid oils. 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.880 And fish oil is a newer addition, 00:06:12.880 --> 00:06:16.680 but it's especially bad, fish oils and algae oils. 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:23.520 But the seed oils like cottonseed oil and canola and so on. 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:28.440 In the lab when I was working on the effects of estrogen 00:06:28.440 --> 00:06:32.160 on those fatty acids in the body, 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:37.160 I bought a bottle of some kind of Wesson oil 00:06:37.520 --> 00:06:40.080 or something like that, a liquid oil. 00:06:40.080 --> 00:06:44.480 I had my apparatus set up for measuring 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.240 animal oxygen consumption, 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:52.000 and I just put a rubber tube attached to the top 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:56.160 of this quart of vegetable oil, 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:00.720 put the other end in a beater of water, 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.960 and I came back a couple of hours later 00:07:04.960 --> 00:07:08.320 and the water had been drawn up the tube. 00:07:08.320 --> 00:07:13.320 The oil itself, a bottle full of oil, 00:07:13.320 --> 00:07:16.640 but with a cap off and exposed to oxygen, 00:07:16.640 --> 00:07:19.680 was consuming oxygen just like there was 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.240 a little animal in the bottle respiring. 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.480 So the oil constantly, on exposure to air, 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:32.040 is becoming rancid, and that was at room temperature 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:37.000 that the bottle of oil was sucking up the oxygen. 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:41.640 And imagine at 98 degrees Fahrenheit 00:07:41.640 --> 00:07:46.640 how fast that rancidity process is going to be consuming 00:07:46.640 --> 00:07:49.360 the oxygen in your tissues. 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.440 That makes it act like estrogen to compete 00:07:54.440 --> 00:07:58.380 against your mitochondrial energy production. 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:04.240 Your fat cells begin sucking up the oxygen, 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.840 and then the polyunsaturated fats 00:08:07.840 --> 00:08:12.840 reaching the mitochondrion will slow, 00:08:12.840 --> 00:08:18.040 just destroy, damage its ability to use oxygen. 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:24.040 - So olive oil is a monounsaturated, 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:25.880 not considered a real PUFA, 00:08:25.880 --> 00:08:30.320 even though it has some PUFA kind of characteristics? 00:08:30.320 --> 00:08:34.200 - Yeah, where some of the oils are 50 or 60% PUFA, 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:39.200 olive oil is eight or 10 or 11% PUFA. 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.480 So it's much, much safer than-- 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:42.320 - Sure. 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:47.200 - And butter is 3%, roughly. 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.840 - Good for butter, huh? 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:51.600 Yeah, wow. - Yeah, much better. 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.720 - So what do you think is the safest way, 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.400 my grandma used to buy these great Italian olive oils 00:08:58.400 --> 00:09:01.160 at the Italian store, and they were in tins, 00:09:01.160 --> 00:09:04.360 and she would keep it in a cool spot in the closet. 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:08.640 Do you think a dark bottle or tins, 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:12.240 or what would be the best place to store? 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:13.600 Do you have any theories? 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.140 - Well, it should be in a very cool place, 00:09:16.140 --> 00:09:19.640 best if it's in a refrigerator so it's solid. 00:09:19.640 --> 00:09:20.880 - Really, huh. 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:28.120 - First of all, you wanna make sure it's actual olive oil, 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.360 and tastes good, properly like olives. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:37.120 The agriculture department, I think it was about 20 years ago 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.640 sampled the olive oil being sold in the US, 00:09:41.640 --> 00:09:44.840 and found that 70% of it was tainted 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:49.840 with things like canola that are cheaper. 00:09:51.640 --> 00:09:56.200 So it's somewhat of a gamble 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.600 whether you're getting real pure olive oil, 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:01.440 and pretty much you can tell it by the taste. 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:02.600 - You have to be careful. 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:06.960 So, so many of the so-called natural foods today, 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:11.560 Dr. Ray Peat, have canola oil, 00:10:11.560 --> 00:10:13.240 and you can even get many of them now 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.880 are using organic canola oil to make it sound better, 00:10:16.880 --> 00:10:21.360 but I take it you're just not a fan of eating this canola. 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:22.200 - No, not at all. 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.000 - Not at all, you just don't wanna do it. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.400 Just don't wanna do it, huh. 00:10:25.400 --> 00:10:30.600 - The reason the marketing started was that 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:36.600 things like safflower oil and soybean oil 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:42.000 used to be used as the basis for making paints and plastics. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:47.120 And the oil chemists learned how to make 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:53.960 similar, much cheaper paints and plastics from petroleum. 00:10:53.960 --> 00:11:00.240 So all of these seed oils lost their market as paint base. 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.680 And the marketing people discovered 00:11:04.680 --> 00:11:08.480 that if they could say that they contain 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.440 something essential for nutrition, 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.800 then they could say they're good for you. 00:11:14.800 --> 00:11:17.960 Even though the so-called essential oils, 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:23.840 the daily requirement is in milligrams rather than grams. 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.920 So there's no basis for saying that 00:11:27.920 --> 00:11:32.640 eating liquid oils is somehow related 00:11:32.640 --> 00:11:34.400 to an essential nutrient. 00:11:34.400 --> 00:11:37.760 It's all marketing that made up 00:11:37.760 --> 00:11:41.560 for the petroleum paint industry takeover. 00:11:41.560 --> 00:11:46.120 - So even extra virgin organic olive oil 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.560 is more a luxury for taste 00:11:49.560 --> 00:11:52.480 rather than a necessary nutrient in your opinion? 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:57.480 - Oh yeah, it does have antioxidants, vitamin E, 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:02.480 and a lot of very effective health-related ingredients. 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:09.080 So if you're getting a little olive oil, 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.480 probably those beneficial things are offsetting 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.440 the moderate amount of proofer you're getting. 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:17.480 - Dr. Ray Peat is here. 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.400 We are live March 15th, 2021. 00:12:20.400 --> 00:12:23.080 If you have a question, we have lots of good ones already. 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:26.880 Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:31.920 I did not really have seen a lot of things 00:12:31.920 --> 00:12:33.440 by Dr. Zach Bush. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.760 And last month you had mentioned that you, 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:37.160 you know, we were talking about the exosomes 00:12:37.160 --> 00:12:38.480 and the virus and the germ theory, 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.720 and you thought that his work was interesting to you. 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.840 And I watched a three-hour video. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:46.840 I don't know if you've seen this one. 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.080 I think it was not, 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.680 it's only been around two or three weeks. 00:12:50.680 --> 00:12:53.600 It was a three-hour documentary that he put together. 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:54.600 And on the face of it, 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:57.480 it looks like he's onto a lot of interesting things, 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:59.800 but he's talking about from the beginning 00:12:59.800 --> 00:13:02.280 that I wanted to ask you about this idea 00:13:02.280 --> 00:13:04.720 that these viruses, what they call viruses, 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.040 have been around forever, right? 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:09.640 I mean, just really since the beginning of time, 00:13:09.640 --> 00:13:12.240 and there's just thousands, millions, 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:13.560 billions of them everywhere. 00:13:13.560 --> 00:13:15.880 Like he says in the air, 00:13:15.880 --> 00:13:20.880 there's 10 to the 30th of viruses in the air, 00:13:20.880 --> 00:13:23.760 10 to the 15th in the body. 00:13:23.760 --> 00:13:25.640 I mean, that's more than the stars, right? 00:13:25.640 --> 00:13:28.880 I mean, that's, yeah, and in the soil. 00:13:28.880 --> 00:13:32.840 And that these viruses that they're called 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:36.560 are circulating throughout the whole world 00:13:36.640 --> 00:13:41.120 without the need for a human transition. 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.200 - Oh, they live in simplest organisms. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.080 Bacteria have their viruses, 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.000 fungus, plants. 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:55.960 Every organism has its so-called viruses. 00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:00.960 But the complex, long chain of nucleic acids 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:05.880 that is the essential component of the virus, 00:14:06.880 --> 00:14:10.800 you don't get the construction of this 00:14:10.800 --> 00:14:15.800 extremely functional, organized bit of DNA or RNA 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:19.240 just in a vacuum. 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:26.680 They require the living cell to reproduce. 00:14:26.680 --> 00:14:30.440 And it happens that living cells 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.760 communicate between each other like bacteria. 00:14:33.760 --> 00:14:38.760 If they learn, if they adapt to an antibiotic, 00:14:38.760 --> 00:14:42.040 they put together a little packet 00:14:42.040 --> 00:14:47.040 of what they learned in their DNA 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:49.880 and pass it on to other bacteria, 00:14:49.880 --> 00:14:52.120 even of different species. 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:57.120 And that packet of DNA is spreading 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:01.080 the ability to resist antibiotics. 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.640 And that's going on constantly. 00:15:03.640 --> 00:15:06.360 And not just bacteria, but higher organisms 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:10.800 are emitting particles equivalent 00:15:10.800 --> 00:15:14.360 to the bacterial capsid or particle 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:19.280 that transfers the ability to adapt better 00:15:19.280 --> 00:15:20.720 to the environment. 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.720 And plants and fungus and animals 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.240 all have this going on in their own tissues. 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:33.360 One tissue sends out messages to another tissue 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:38.120 and can recruit assistance from other parts 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:43.120 of the organism or send out repair particles 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:47.520 to help other parts. 00:15:47.520 --> 00:15:52.520 And these particles circulate in all the body fluids. 00:15:52.520 --> 00:15:59.920 A mother's milk contains these exosomes 00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:04.920 of virus-like structures that are ingested by the baby. 00:16:04.920 --> 00:16:08.680 The sweat, the urine, the saliva, 00:16:08.680 --> 00:16:13.400 all of our fluids contain these intrinsic 00:16:13.400 --> 00:16:17.240 communication particles that are working 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.960 back and forth within our own tissues. 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.160 But they're in our body fluids 00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:24.520 and they get into the environment 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:27.560 and can affect other organisms. 00:16:27.560 --> 00:16:30.880 And if it happens that it's something 00:16:30.880 --> 00:16:35.640 that works well in a plant, 00:16:35.640 --> 00:16:37.320 when it gets into an animal, 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.560 it might be exactly the wrong thing. 00:16:41.560 --> 00:16:45.120 It might send out very confused signals 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.560 trying to repair a plant cell 00:16:47.560 --> 00:16:50.640 when it's in your liver or something. 00:16:50.640 --> 00:16:55.640 And so these signals are alien 00:16:56.640 --> 00:16:58.680 when they're taken up randomly 00:16:58.680 --> 00:17:02.880 and our bodies have to decide what to do with them. 00:17:02.880 --> 00:17:07.000 And much of this stuff gets tucked away 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.600 for future reference in case it might come 00:17:11.600 --> 00:17:15.440 from a bacteria that knew something you should know 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.680 but is at the moment not useful. 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.400 So it gets tucked away in our DNA. 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:26.400 And about 97 to 98% of our DNA 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:31.720 consists of strands that do not produce proteins. 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:36.440 The genes that people have studied in genetics 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:41.440 for 120 years are strips of DNA 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:49.520 that contain information for making protein. 00:17:49.520 --> 00:17:54.280 But those amount to only 2 or 3% of all of our DNA. 00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:59.280 And much of the rest of it, at least 48 or 50%, 00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:02.400 it has the structure that would suggest 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.520 it came from viruses. 00:18:04.520 --> 00:18:08.520 But since viruses can't evolve by themselves, 00:18:08.520 --> 00:18:14.480 there really, it turns out that our internal exosomes 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.760 that are repair modules, 00:18:17.760 --> 00:18:22.160 it turns out that they create exactly, 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.320 even the covering protein that we think of 00:18:26.320 --> 00:18:30.480 as what makes a virus travel and get into other cells, 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.240 even that covering protein turns out to be 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:39.240 something intrinsic to our own regulatory systems. 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:44.440 So since we share them, 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:50.120 you can treat them as viruses, 00:18:50.120 --> 00:18:54.760 but they are built, they evolved and developed 00:18:54.760 --> 00:18:59.760 as part of our ability to guide development. 00:18:59.760 --> 00:19:04.640 And when these are acting during gestation, 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:10.200 they're like the things we call cytokines. 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:15.200 During gestation, these virus-like or exosomal 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:21.480 strands of DNA are interacting with the 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.280 potentially inflammatory cytokines 00:19:26.280 --> 00:19:31.280 as perfectly essential and harmless guides 00:19:31.280 --> 00:19:34.440 to creating the fetus. 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:40.600 They are essential parts of forming the human being. 00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:49.120 And what happens in stressful environments, 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:53.240 these things don't have adequate support 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.440 of nutrition and oxygen and carbon dioxide and so on. 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:01.560 So under stress, these things that are part of our 00:20:01.560 --> 00:20:06.560 formative, protective DNA and cytokine system, 00:20:06.560 --> 00:20:13.560 these turn out to be maladaptive under bad stress 00:20:14.080 --> 00:20:19.080 and so they act like viruses when we're too stressed 00:20:19.080 --> 00:20:22.680 to put them to proper use. 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:27.680 - So that's why Bush argues that in the body, 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.200 these exosomes and our viruses, exosomes, 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.640 the body chooses whether or not it needs them. 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:37.480 - Yeah, right. 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.360 - It actually makes a choice. 00:20:39.360 --> 00:20:42.760 - Right, that's why healthy people don't have to worry. 00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:44.360 - That's why they don't get sick. 00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:45.200 (laughing) 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.920 So then flu symptoms, and following what you're saying 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.720 and Bush, it's not a bad thing. 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:54.800 It's a genetic update and the body's actually 00:20:54.800 --> 00:20:57.400 getting stronger because of it, yes? 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.960 - Right, like studies have found that kids 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:05.960 who had normal measles when they were in grade school 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:10.520 or so are resistant to cancer later in life. 00:21:10.520 --> 00:21:11.360 - Yeah, yeah. 00:21:11.360 --> 00:21:16.600 You know, Dr. Piedmont, when I grew up in grade school 00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:21.000 in the 50s, we got the measles and mom put us to bed 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.720 for a couple days and that was it. 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:24.120 And it was just no big deal. 00:21:24.120 --> 00:21:25.640 We just went back to school. 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:30.000 - Yeah, the whole vaccine thing, 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:36.560 it was the smallpox vaccine after thousands of years 00:21:36.560 --> 00:21:41.560 of practice, it became a usable medical tool 00:21:41.560 --> 00:21:49.360 and finally in the 1960s, they decided that they would 00:21:49.360 --> 00:21:54.000 get organized about it and instead of vaccinating people 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.000 where there hadn't been any cases of smallpox for decades, 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:04.680 they decided to use it in a new outbreak and encircle 00:22:06.080 --> 00:22:11.080 the area where it was becoming an epidemic 00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:13.880 and keep it from spreading. 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:17.480 So in just a few years, two or three years 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:22.480 of actual organized activity, they eliminated smallpox 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:23.760 from the world. 00:22:23.760 --> 00:22:28.000 But if you use a vaccine in that way, 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.000 you lose your market for selling vaccines. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:37.000 So the vaccine for smallpox was used intelligently 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.640 and then there was no more market for selling it. 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:43.160 So they never made that mistake again. 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:48.920 The policy now is to vaccinate healthy people. 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.400 Even though you kill some of them, 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:56.040 it will keep the market going if you instill the idea 00:22:56.040 --> 00:23:00.160 that vaccines are something everyone should have. 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.880 - So what did this organism, two questions. 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.680 So an organism that was involved in an experience 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:12.680 called smallpox is an organism that was not trying 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:16.460 to do some kind of good for the person? 00:23:16.460 --> 00:23:20.400 - It was possibly-- 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:24.720 - Or could be the same thing, only the weak got sick. 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:29.360 - Yeah, in the great smallpox epidemics, 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:32.000 there were always a considerable portion 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.640 of the population that never didn't get it. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.960 And things like getting enough sunlight and vitamin D 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:43.960 and a good diet accounted for why those healthy people 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:47.880 didn't have any problem with smallpox. 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:52.360 - So this smallpox particle was not, 00:23:52.360 --> 00:23:55.280 its mission in life was not to kill people. 00:23:55.280 --> 00:23:57.500 - Yeah, it might have been to, 00:23:57.500 --> 00:24:02.500 make mice resistant to mosquitoes or something. 00:24:02.500 --> 00:24:10.260 It might have had some useful function in some organism. 00:24:10.260 --> 00:24:14.260 But when it got in people, if their immune systems 00:24:14.260 --> 00:24:18.080 couldn't adjust to it and take care of it, 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:22.360 then they would develop the disease of smallpox. 00:24:22.360 --> 00:24:27.340 - But at the end, if they had the proper, 00:24:27.340 --> 00:24:29.940 I don't care, would the people 00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:31.960 that even experienced smallpox, 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:35.140 could it be argued that they would actually 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:38.400 be better off for it if they lived through it? 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.140 No? 00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:45.140 - Probably, but it would be better to be exposed 00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:47.780 to the smallpox and handle it well 00:24:47.780 --> 00:24:51.780 so you didn't even get maybe an itch 00:24:51.780 --> 00:24:55.020 where it hit your skin or nose or whatever. 00:24:55.020 --> 00:25:00.020 - I see, which is the idea that they even do it today 00:25:00.020 --> 00:25:03.020 where moms who understand the measles month things, 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:04.920 they'll actually have measles parties. 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:10.980 Right, so they'll send the kids to the party 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:12.460 and drink out of Joe's cup 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:14.460 because you guys can share this thing. 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:20.660 - Yeah, and several big studies in India, for example, 00:25:21.580 --> 00:25:26.580 have shown that just vitamin D or just vitamin A, 00:25:26.580 --> 00:25:31.300 just some very economical change in the diet 00:25:31.300 --> 00:25:37.180 stops the plagues of whatever, polio 00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:42.660 or other viral, so-called viral diseases. 00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:47.740 Just a very economical improvement of living conditions 00:25:47.740 --> 00:25:51.220 will prevent those deadly plagues 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:54.740 that they happen in populations under stress, 00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:59.740 having famines and exposure to very bad diets, toxins, 00:25:59.740 --> 00:26:10.980 and just by having a normal, clean, well-fed environment, 00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:14.620 you don't have plagues. 00:26:14.620 --> 00:26:21.080 - So similar to people who die from scurvy, 00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:24.640 and then, oh, they gave them limes or vitamin C 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.240 or something and they were fine. 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.320 - Yeah, yeah, the vitamin D and A 00:26:32.320 --> 00:26:36.160 happen to be the ones currently recognized 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.840 as providing resistance to viruses, 00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:44.320 but vitamin C had that function a couple hundred years ago. 00:26:44.320 --> 00:26:49.940 - So I wondered, before we start processing food, 00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:55.300 well, I guess people always had stress, right? 00:26:55.300 --> 00:26:58.420 They were fighting somebody or dinosaurs or who knows, 00:26:58.420 --> 00:27:01.740 right, or big snakes or Indians. 00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:03.160 I guess they always had stress, 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.420 so there was always a, it was kind of poetry in motion, 00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:08.540 Dr. Peat, of who was getting sick 00:27:08.540 --> 00:27:10.340 or who had symptoms and who weren't. 00:27:10.340 --> 00:27:15.540 - Well, as the agriculture became 00:27:15.540 --> 00:27:19.900 the food basis of civilization, 00:27:19.900 --> 00:27:24.900 grains became an excessive part of our diet. 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:29.620 Grains provide polyunsaturated fats 00:27:29.620 --> 00:27:32.980 and a variety of toxic nutrients, 00:27:32.980 --> 00:27:37.060 as well as a minimal amount of survival protein. 00:27:37.060 --> 00:27:42.060 So the more you lived on a grain-based diet, 00:27:42.060 --> 00:27:45.500 the more likely you were to have a plague, 00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:49.140 an epidemic of viruses, bacteria, and so on. 00:27:50.140 --> 00:27:51.580 - Dr. Ray Peat is with us. 00:27:51.580 --> 00:27:56.580 We're live here this morning, March 15th, 2021. 00:27:56.580 --> 00:28:00.940 Do you think that this human body that you and I are in 00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:04.700 and our listeners could have actually evolved 00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:05.780 all the way from the ocean, 00:28:05.780 --> 00:28:09.300 all the way out to where we are today? 00:28:09.300 --> 00:28:12.180 What's your, what is your theory on that? 00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:15.980 - I don't think there's any good reason 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:19.900 for thinking of the ocean as the source. 00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:24.900 That the idea of a membrane enclosing seawater 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:32.660 to account for why we have our mineral composition and so on, 00:28:32.660 --> 00:28:36.300 it's completely unfounded. 00:28:36.300 --> 00:28:38.460 - That's not, well, what about, 00:28:38.460 --> 00:28:40.380 what if we leave the ocean out of it? 00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:42.020 Do you think our species, 00:28:42.020 --> 00:28:45.620 the bodies that we have in body right now, 00:28:45.620 --> 00:28:50.060 evolve from low forms of bacteria and viruses 00:28:50.060 --> 00:28:52.580 and came to where we are today? 00:28:52.580 --> 00:28:57.860 - No, no, the viruses evolved from us. 00:28:57.860 --> 00:29:00.620 - The viruses evolved us. 00:29:00.620 --> 00:29:02.740 So how does that work? 00:29:02.740 --> 00:29:09.140 - The exosomes that we need to make ourselves, 00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:14.060 they're shared, and when you share them 00:29:14.060 --> 00:29:16.740 with someone who isn't healthy, 00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:19.860 then they become a virus or a disease source. 00:29:19.860 --> 00:29:22.740 - When we share them with somebody, 00:29:22.740 --> 00:29:26.140 but if they do okay with it and work through it, 00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:28.340 aren't they gonna be healthier at the end of it? 00:29:28.340 --> 00:29:29.740 - Yeah. 00:29:29.740 --> 00:29:31.900 - So they should thank us when we give them the flu. 00:29:31.900 --> 00:29:32.740 Just kidding. 00:29:32.740 --> 00:29:35.020 (laughing) 00:29:35.020 --> 00:29:40.020 - Yeah, a good ecosystem isn't riddled with disease. 00:29:41.820 --> 00:29:45.740 It's a collapsing ecosystem that experiences things 00:29:45.740 --> 00:29:49.540 like viral and bacterial epidemics. 00:29:49.540 --> 00:29:51.020 - But Bush was saying there's something 00:29:51.020 --> 00:29:54.700 like these retroviruses, and he had the name of it, 00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:57.660 that without all these retroviruses, 00:29:57.660 --> 00:29:59.840 this was the way that we actually became, 00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:04.940 evolved into mammals and had babies in the tummy 00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:06.540 rather than laying eggs. 00:30:06.540 --> 00:30:10.100 - Yeah, I think that's true. 00:30:10.100 --> 00:30:11.220 - Did I get that right? 00:30:11.860 --> 00:30:12.700 - Right, yeah. 00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:17.700 The so-called dark DNA, that 98% that doesn't make proteins, 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:24.380 that's part of our structuring system, 00:30:24.380 --> 00:30:29.380 and our dark DNA, non-coding DNA, 00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:36.260 is different from the egg-laying organisms. 00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:38.960 That's where our difference lies. 00:30:40.180 --> 00:30:44.100 - So somehow there had to be an intelligence 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:48.720 or a desire, working with God, whatever God is, 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:53.300 to wanna move from eggs to tummies somehow. 00:30:53.300 --> 00:30:54.140 - Right. 00:30:54.140 --> 00:30:55.140 - We had to have a desire to do it, 00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:57.380 or that never would have happened, right? 00:30:57.380 --> 00:31:02.380 - Yeah, James A. Shapiro, a bacteria geneticist, 00:31:02.380 --> 00:31:08.660 has written, and there are some very good videos 00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:14.420 explaining how bacteria have a very highly developed 00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:19.960 level of intelligence. 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:25.660 The idea that the world lacks intelligence 00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:31.620 is it's kind of an anti-religious bias 00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:40.380 or built-in philosophy to deny 00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.380 that intelligence is everywhere. 00:31:42.380 --> 00:31:44.260 - It's just everywhere. 00:31:44.260 --> 00:31:45.580 - Yeah. 00:31:45.580 --> 00:31:49.860 - So then the whole evolution and the divine, 00:31:49.860 --> 00:31:52.220 what do they call it, God theory or evolution, 00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:54.900 and what's the other one, the opposite, 00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:58.580 of theories and evolution? 00:31:58.580 --> 00:32:01.140 - Well, the standard-- 00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:02.700 - Standard one. 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:05.500 - The neo-Darwinism is based on the assumption 00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:09.380 that the world is basically random 00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:10.980 and stupid and accidental. 00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:11.820 - Right, right. 00:32:11.820 --> 00:32:18.220 So they all, it kind of works together, doesn't it, 00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:20.100 the whole thing, if everything is intelligent 00:32:20.100 --> 00:32:23.380 and somehow a part of divine intelligence, 00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:24.540 which we might call God. 00:32:24.540 --> 00:32:27.020 I mean, it makes sense to me. 00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:28.940 You? 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:33.940 - Yeah, actual, normal reasoning processes 00:32:34.780 --> 00:32:35.940 will lead you there. 00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:40.580 You know the famous work on math 00:32:40.580 --> 00:32:44.220 that Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell 00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:47.420 produced around the early part of the 20th century? 00:32:47.420 --> 00:32:52.240 After they worked together on pure logic, 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.060 Whitehead went off in his direction. 00:32:57.060 --> 00:33:02.060 He actually started using terms like God, 00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:08.700 but strictly building it on the same clear thinking 00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:11.820 that Bertrand Russell and he had developed. 00:33:11.820 --> 00:33:16.020 And so there's nothing anti-philosophical 00:33:16.020 --> 00:33:18.740 or anti-scientific. 00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:21.260 You can use that terminology 00:33:21.260 --> 00:33:26.380 without having to be a member of a church or something. 00:33:26.380 --> 00:33:27.580 - Uh-huh, yeah. 00:33:27.580 --> 00:33:29.820 Dr. Ray Peat is here. 00:33:29.820 --> 00:33:32.340 His website is raypeat.com. 00:33:32.340 --> 00:33:34.380 You can get his newsletter. 00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:39.380 It's just raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:43.580 raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:33:43.580 --> 00:33:48.100 So can it be assumed or argued 00:33:48.100 --> 00:33:50.740 that all of these things we call dis-eases, 00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:53.100 regardless of what they are, 00:33:53.100 --> 00:33:57.180 it's possible that on some level spiritually, 00:33:57.180 --> 00:33:58.460 you and I and our listeners, 00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:01.420 we're trying to evolve. 00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:02.780 We're trying to get stronger. 00:34:02.780 --> 00:34:05.700 We're trying to move and change and to grow. 00:34:05.700 --> 00:34:12.740 - Yeah, even people who seem to disagree, 00:34:12.740 --> 00:34:16.060 like Kaufman and Bush, 00:34:16.060 --> 00:34:17.780 one says there are no viruses. 00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.260 The other says viruses are everywhere. 00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:22.740 But still what they have in common 00:34:22.740 --> 00:34:25.900 is there's nothing to panic about. 00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:30.300 There's no reality to the fear of the pandemic. 00:34:30.300 --> 00:34:34.500 And what that means is how do you explain 00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:37.500 what the governments have been doing? 00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:41.940 And that leads to the political agenda 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:45.860 promoted by the World Economic Forum 00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:51.140 with the assistance of Johns Hopkins University 00:34:51.140 --> 00:34:53.460 and several of the other 00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:58.980 traditionally elitist power groups. 00:34:59.820 --> 00:35:01.420 So there's definitely, 00:35:01.420 --> 00:35:03.940 I don't think we're conspiracy theorists, 00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:06.580 whatever that means, or tinfoil hat people, 00:35:06.580 --> 00:35:09.140 to assume that there's just something rotten in Denmark 00:35:09.140 --> 00:35:12.860 as far as this whole whatever it's been 00:35:12.860 --> 00:35:15.420 over the last 18 months, right? 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.900 - Yeah, one of the key concepts 00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:21.620 of the Great Reset promoted 00:35:21.620 --> 00:35:26.740 is that no one will own anything. 00:35:26.740 --> 00:35:29.100 You'll rent everything. 00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:34.100 Well, they are openly saying 00:35:34.100 --> 00:35:37.140 you'll rent everything and you'll be happy 00:35:37.140 --> 00:35:38.860 without owning anything. 00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:40.660 But who are you gonna rent it from? 00:35:40.660 --> 00:35:47.140 The World Economic Forum consists of thousands of people, 00:35:47.140 --> 00:35:50.140 the billionaire class, 00:35:50.140 --> 00:35:53.780 who are going to set the prices on everything 00:35:53.780 --> 00:35:55.780 that you don't own and have to rent. 00:35:56.900 --> 00:36:00.820 So it's very clearly an economic policy 00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:06.460 shaped to benefit only the billionaire class, 00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:08.260 the monopoly class. 00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:10.700 - I saw an article yesterday, Dr. Peat, 00:36:10.700 --> 00:36:14.220 where the writer was concerned 00:36:14.220 --> 00:36:16.420 and he was looking at numbers and saying how 00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:21.860 the richer nations were getting this injection, right, 00:36:21.860 --> 00:36:24.020 for COVID rather than the poorer nations. 00:36:24.020 --> 00:36:28.180 And this kind of is opposite of what people are arguing 00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:30.540 that these people, whoever they are, 00:36:30.540 --> 00:36:33.620 are wanting to thin out the population. 00:36:33.620 --> 00:36:41.220 - You've seen the video and the articles 00:36:41.220 --> 00:36:43.820 by Gerd Van Den Bosch? 00:36:43.820 --> 00:36:45.540 - Yeah, well, I sent you the one video, 00:36:45.540 --> 00:36:47.100 remember, on the vaccine. 00:36:47.100 --> 00:36:47.940 Wow. 00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:49.860 - Yeah, he gets very excited. 00:36:49.860 --> 00:36:54.860 He's a working vaccine specialist, 00:36:54.860 --> 00:37:00.140 well-informed on how the immune system works, 00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:01.500 unlike people like Fauci, 00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.460 who know nothing about the immune system. 00:37:04.460 --> 00:37:09.460 But based on his good understanding 00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:12.220 of vaccines and immunity, 00:37:12.220 --> 00:37:14.540 he gets very excited and says, 00:37:14.540 --> 00:37:19.660 this might already be too late to stop 00:37:19.660 --> 00:37:22.820 the terrible disaster that will result 00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:25.940 from using vaccines in the midst 00:37:25.940 --> 00:37:28.700 of a well-established pandemic. 00:37:28.700 --> 00:37:30.860 - Can you explain more about that? 00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:32.740 It was fascinating, the interview. 00:37:32.740 --> 00:37:35.260 I mean, and this fellow, Dr. Peat, as you know, 00:37:35.260 --> 00:37:36.620 he's not an anti-vaxxer. 00:37:36.620 --> 00:37:39.900 He creates and creates vaccines for a living. 00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:41.580 This is what he does, right? 00:37:41.580 --> 00:37:44.940 Can you explain to us, as simply as possible, 00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:46.540 of his argument? 00:37:46.540 --> 00:37:47.940 And this is more, 00:37:47.940 --> 00:37:51.820 is this above and beyond the vaccines 00:37:51.820 --> 00:37:54.420 damaging the innate immune system that Kaufman, 00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:56.740 I mean, that Cowan wrote about two, three years ago 00:37:56.740 --> 00:37:58.260 in his book on vaccines. 00:37:58.260 --> 00:38:00.020 It's more than that, right? 00:38:00.020 --> 00:38:03.140 Than just damaging the innate immune system? 00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:05.940 Or is it all the same? 00:38:05.940 --> 00:38:07.260 Is it part of this? 00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:12.260 - Yeah, it's helping to breed a worse virus. 00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:15.500 - How is that? 00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:16.340 How is it? 00:38:16.340 --> 00:38:17.860 Can you explain to us how this works? 00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:20.380 If you do it in the middle of a pandemic. 00:38:20.380 --> 00:38:26.300 - The way the labs developed germ warfare viruses 00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:31.660 was to put them in one organism after another, 00:38:31.660 --> 00:38:35.100 keeping it under pressure. 00:38:35.100 --> 00:38:39.660 Not enough immune reaction to destroy it, 00:38:39.660 --> 00:38:44.060 but to make one organism after another sick, 00:38:44.060 --> 00:38:49.060 passing it through dozens of different infected animals. 00:38:49.060 --> 00:38:57.420 Each time the virus fails to be destroyed 00:38:57.420 --> 00:39:00.420 by the immune system, 00:39:00.420 --> 00:39:03.540 it has mutated into something 00:39:03.540 --> 00:39:07.980 that resists one immune system after the other. 00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:11.820 And so the lab work decades ago 00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:14.780 was showing that you can evolve 00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:19.540 a very, very deadly virus in the lab 00:39:19.540 --> 00:39:23.580 just by keeping it transmitting 00:39:23.580 --> 00:39:25.620 through different organisms. 00:39:25.620 --> 00:39:28.620 And Van den Barsch is saying that 00:39:28.620 --> 00:39:33.780 the proper way to use a vaccine 00:39:33.780 --> 00:39:37.140 is the way the smallpox vaccine was used. 00:39:37.220 --> 00:39:42.220 Not in a population that is already well infected, 00:39:42.220 --> 00:39:49.980 but to enclose, surround, and destroy 00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:52.900 the area where the infection is coming from. 00:39:52.900 --> 00:39:59.180 Definitely not vaccinating healthy populations, 00:39:59.180 --> 00:40:02.180 but using it intelligently. 00:40:02.180 --> 00:40:06.660 And his point is that the risk is 00:40:06.660 --> 00:40:11.260 that by vaccinating people who are 00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:13.820 already infected and healthy, 00:40:13.820 --> 00:40:18.780 as well as the susceptible weak ones, 00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:21.220 that the virus is going to get stronger 00:40:21.220 --> 00:40:22.740 and stronger very quickly. 00:40:22.740 --> 00:40:25.700 - Do you think he's right? 00:40:25.700 --> 00:40:27.100 - Yeah. 00:40:27.100 --> 00:40:31.260 I don't agree with everything he says, 00:40:31.260 --> 00:40:34.860 but the vaccine that he developed, 00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:39.860 I think it was called Univax or Univax, something like that, 00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:45.180 was based on the idea of 00:40:45.180 --> 00:40:50.340 making stronger natural killer cells, 00:40:50.340 --> 00:40:54.700 which would be our innate immune system, 00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:58.620 not the specialized vaccine antibodies, 00:40:58.620 --> 00:41:03.220 but a general basic strengthening 00:41:03.220 --> 00:41:05.140 of the whole immune system 00:41:05.140 --> 00:41:08.140 and eliminating the infected cells 00:41:08.140 --> 00:41:11.540 so they couldn't produce more viruses. 00:41:11.540 --> 00:41:17.500 And he points out that when you vaccinate 00:41:17.500 --> 00:41:20.460 a population and produce lots of people 00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:25.460 with a mass amount of specific antibodies 00:41:25.460 --> 00:41:31.580 for this particular virus, 00:41:31.580 --> 00:41:33.860 which then is going to change, 00:41:33.860 --> 00:41:38.860 but you've suppressed all of your generalized resistance, 00:41:38.860 --> 00:41:46.140 the basic natural antibodies and natural killer cells 00:41:46.140 --> 00:41:51.140 are subordinated, suppressed by the extreme amplification 00:41:51.140 --> 00:41:58.500 of a specific antibody for a specific virus. 00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:01.580 So you've over-specialized the population 00:42:01.580 --> 00:42:07.660 with this type of badly thought out vaccine. 00:42:07.660 --> 00:42:14.060 And the very achievement of a powerful immunity 00:42:14.060 --> 00:42:19.060 against that virus is weakening your general intelligence, 00:42:19.060 --> 00:42:23.500 part of your immune system, 00:42:23.500 --> 00:42:27.980 which can meet and resist 00:42:27.980 --> 00:42:31.620 any unexpected agent. 00:42:31.620 --> 00:42:32.940 That becomes weaker. 00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:33.780 - Hmm, wow. 00:42:33.780 --> 00:42:38.780 - You put all your effort into that fighting a virus, 00:42:38.780 --> 00:42:46.180 which might never recur because the virus changes. 00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:51.140 - And then what could be some of the potential dangers 00:42:51.140 --> 00:42:53.700 to people six months, a year? 00:42:53.700 --> 00:42:57.020 Do we have any idea, or two years, or five years from now? 00:42:57.020 --> 00:42:58.540 - Well-- - Of taking this injection? 00:42:58.540 --> 00:42:59.380 Do we know? 00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:00.900 I mean, have any theories? 00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:03.660 - The certain thing is that you've weakened 00:43:03.660 --> 00:43:07.500 and over-specialized your immune system. 00:43:07.500 --> 00:43:11.460 Many studies have looked at the people 00:43:11.460 --> 00:43:16.340 who got influenza shots the previous year. 00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:19.940 The next year, they are much more susceptible 00:43:19.940 --> 00:43:21.420 to the coronavirus. 00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:25.740 Exactly the thing Vandenbergh was talking about. 00:43:26.580 --> 00:43:30.420 The over-specialization for one virus 00:43:30.420 --> 00:43:34.060 weakens your general immunity for everything else. 00:43:34.060 --> 00:43:38.340 - So can it be argued then that this whole corona thing 00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:44.340 18 months ago was no more than just a normal 00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:48.180 everyday life when people get colds and they detox, 00:43:48.180 --> 00:43:50.500 or whatever you wanna call it, exosomes, viruses, 00:43:50.500 --> 00:43:52.100 call it what you want. 00:43:52.100 --> 00:43:53.740 And if they would've just left it alone, 00:43:53.740 --> 00:43:58.140 we would have any of this masking all this stuff. 00:43:58.140 --> 00:44:02.780 - Yeah, the excess deaths analyzed, 00:44:02.780 --> 00:44:06.580 the data right from the CDC was analyzed 00:44:06.580 --> 00:44:09.380 by Genevieve Briand. 00:44:09.380 --> 00:44:10.220 - Yes. 00:44:10.220 --> 00:44:14.260 - And she showed that their own data 00:44:14.260 --> 00:44:16.460 that doesn't show any excess deaths. 00:44:16.460 --> 00:44:21.460 It was just a standard flu and cold season. 00:44:22.660 --> 00:44:24.180 And that was it. 00:44:24.180 --> 00:44:28.260 - Yeah, you can't come to any conclusion 00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:32.060 except that there are political agendas 00:44:32.060 --> 00:44:34.780 creating fear to sell something 00:44:34.780 --> 00:44:37.740 they're holding in the background. 00:44:37.740 --> 00:44:42.940 - So it's almost like, Dr. Piva, 00:44:42.940 --> 00:44:44.780 it would have to have been a really 00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:47.580 well-planned out coordinated effort 00:44:47.580 --> 00:44:52.060 between all these people, WHO, CDC, UN, 00:44:52.060 --> 00:44:56.580 the media, the AMA, the whole, 00:44:56.580 --> 00:44:59.700 has to be, the whole thing was well-planned out. 00:44:59.700 --> 00:45:03.020 - Right, the Rockefeller Foundation laid out 00:45:03.020 --> 00:45:08.980 the agenda about 10 years ago. 00:45:08.980 --> 00:45:14.060 And then just months before the pandemic appeared, 00:45:14.060 --> 00:45:20.620 the World Economic Forum and Johns Hopkins University 00:45:20.620 --> 00:45:24.020 had a practice run to get all of the government people 00:45:24.020 --> 00:45:27.780 ready and coordinated with the policy. 00:45:27.780 --> 00:45:34.260 So the record is there showing that it has been planned 00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:36.580 and that nothing real happened, 00:45:36.580 --> 00:45:41.580 but they were pre-informed how they should act 00:45:41.580 --> 00:45:45.380 and the policies that they should put in place, 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:48.140 not for the public health, 00:45:48.140 --> 00:45:51.140 but for the interests of these, 00:45:51.140 --> 00:45:55.660 of the powerful organizations. 00:45:55.660 --> 00:45:57.860 - And what are your opinions 00:45:57.860 --> 00:46:00.980 on what some of the motives were, are, 00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:02.420 after, what were you, 00:46:02.420 --> 00:46:04.620 what were your own intuition deep down? 00:46:04.620 --> 00:46:06.740 What do you think these motives-- 00:46:06.740 --> 00:46:11.740 - Exactly what the founder and chairman 00:46:11.740 --> 00:46:16.820 of the World Economic Forum has written, 00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:21.580 that it's to destroy the existing, 00:46:21.580 --> 00:46:24.460 they call it the legacy economy, 00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:29.020 to destroy the normal existing economies of the world 00:46:29.020 --> 00:46:32.940 and replace them with artificial intelligence 00:46:32.940 --> 00:46:38.620 owned by the monopolies, 00:46:38.620 --> 00:46:42.660 rented out to the public, 00:46:42.660 --> 00:46:47.140 but absolutely under the centralized ownership 00:46:47.140 --> 00:46:51.860 of the digital technology world. 00:46:51.860 --> 00:46:54.380 - This whole great reset thing, 00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:55.460 what's gonna be involved 00:46:55.460 --> 00:46:58.860 with a lot of different ideas pushed forward? 00:46:58.860 --> 00:47:05.340 - Yeah, yeah, the digitizing everything, 00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:11.180 eventually having artificial intelligence 00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:14.700 running school and university courses, 00:47:14.700 --> 00:47:17.820 as well as medical procedures. 00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:28.380 New York was the first government to acknowledge 00:47:28.380 --> 00:47:31.460 that they were going to start putting in place 00:47:31.460 --> 00:47:34.700 the program of the World Economic Forum 00:47:34.700 --> 00:47:39.700 to replace normal education with online education, 00:47:40.220 --> 00:47:44.380 normal medicine with digital online medicine, 00:47:44.380 --> 00:47:51.060 replace local economy with online shopping, 00:47:51.060 --> 00:47:57.220 so that the monopolies like Amazon 00:47:57.220 --> 00:48:01.780 will increase their wealth fabulously. 00:48:01.780 --> 00:48:04.340 You can see that the billionaire-- 00:48:04.340 --> 00:48:07.220 - I saw that, yeah, some of the numbers, 00:48:07.220 --> 00:48:09.260 some of the numbers of these people. 00:48:09.260 --> 00:48:12.700 So the whole eugenics idea 00:48:12.700 --> 00:48:14.660 of wanting to thin out the population, 00:48:14.660 --> 00:48:17.060 that's part of this, in your opinion? 00:48:17.060 --> 00:48:21.220 - Yeah, it's interesting that Johns Hopkins University 00:48:21.220 --> 00:48:26.220 was so central with the World Economic Forum 00:48:26.220 --> 00:48:27.620 in the great reset, 00:48:27.620 --> 00:48:30.460 because they were the founders 00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:33.820 of the official eugenics office. 00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:37.020 Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory 00:48:38.300 --> 00:48:43.300 was pretty much a creation of Johns Hopkins University 00:48:43.300 --> 00:48:46.420 and their eugenics people. 00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:52.780 Their eugenics ideas inspired the Nazis. 00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:58.980 The US actually passed laws to sterilize people 00:48:58.980 --> 00:49:05.580 that immigrant people who didn't speak English 00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:11.380 became candidates, the poverty class 00:49:11.380 --> 00:49:15.100 of malnourished and sickly people. 00:49:15.100 --> 00:49:18.420 If sickness appeared to run in the family, 00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:23.420 then you could sterilize them under the law of many states. 00:49:23.420 --> 00:49:26.540 Those ideas inspired the Nazis. 00:49:26.540 --> 00:49:31.540 So Johns Hopkins history is right in the same line 00:49:33.500 --> 00:49:37.580 as the current great reset policy. 00:49:37.580 --> 00:49:41.660 - But could this not work to their opposite conclusion 00:49:41.660 --> 00:49:46.340 where all the people that they're able to control 00:49:46.340 --> 00:49:49.460 who watch television go to school, 00:49:49.460 --> 00:49:54.380 that they're the ones that maybe won't make it through this 00:49:54.380 --> 00:49:57.100 in the next 10, 20 years? 00:49:57.100 --> 00:50:01.220 Or become more transhuman? 00:50:03.140 --> 00:50:08.140 - The direction of education under this digitized 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:13.420 centralization of power, 00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:18.420 it's to turn people into useful, profitable employees 00:50:18.420 --> 00:50:26.980 of these technological monopolies, 00:50:26.980 --> 00:50:32.780 or to let them maybe put them on a pension, 00:50:32.780 --> 00:50:36.420 keep them in powerless poverty. 00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:42.780 - Which could be what this whole universal basic income 00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:44.500 is all about and all this stuff 00:50:44.500 --> 00:50:46.900 that the globalists wanna push forward. 00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:51.500 - Yeah, put the masses of the population on a pension 00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:55.860 and keep them harmless and quiet until they die off. 00:50:55.860 --> 00:50:58.540 - Harmless and quiet. 00:50:58.540 --> 00:51:00.380 Wow, brave new world. 00:51:00.380 --> 00:51:02.660 Did you ever think this would come about in your lifetime, 00:51:02.660 --> 00:51:04.220 Dr. Peaton? 00:51:04.220 --> 00:51:07.060 - I feel that it's happening right now. 00:51:07.060 --> 00:51:07.900 - Yes, sir. 00:51:07.900 --> 00:51:09.100 Yeah, I'm sure. 00:51:09.100 --> 00:51:09.940 Please stay there. 00:51:09.940 --> 00:51:13.100 And thanks again, thanks so much for being here. 00:51:13.100 --> 00:51:14.460 We're gonna take a quick break 00:51:14.460 --> 00:51:18.260 and then promote a couple things, products. 00:51:18.260 --> 00:51:21.300 This is how we make our little house payment 00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:24.340 and a big house payment, however you wanna say it. 00:51:24.340 --> 00:51:25.460 I don't know why I use that term. 00:51:25.460 --> 00:51:27.140 Doesn't matter, it's a house payment. 00:51:27.140 --> 00:51:28.740 We're very fortunate to have a house. 00:51:28.740 --> 00:51:32.140 God, I'm so grateful to be able to have a nice home 00:51:32.140 --> 00:51:34.140 to live in out here in the country. 00:51:34.140 --> 00:51:36.020 And thank you for your ongoing support. 00:51:36.020 --> 00:51:40.420 This is a good thing to do to detox from a lot of stuff. 00:51:40.420 --> 00:51:44.740 - 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We are listener supported, One Radio Network. 00:54:27.700 --> 00:54:39.600 - Previously, we talked with Brandon Amelani 00:54:39.600 --> 00:54:41.240 about his Blue Shield product 00:54:41.240 --> 00:54:44.040 to protect against EMFs in your home. 00:54:44.040 --> 00:54:45.160 - The more connected we are, 00:54:45.160 --> 00:54:47.400 the more electromagnetic radiation we're gonna have. 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.200 So years ago, I'd play with Q-Links 00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:50.640 and just anything I can get my hands on 00:54:50.640 --> 00:54:53.040 that whether I felt it working or not, 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:54.240 I just wanted some kind of leverage 00:54:54.240 --> 00:54:56.760 against electromagnetic radiation in those frequencies 00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:58.600 and how they affect the cellular biology. 00:54:58.600 --> 00:54:59.920 But then when I met Mark 00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:02.040 and started really getting deep to his technology 00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:04.640 and really looking at the microprocessing technology, 00:55:04.640 --> 00:55:07.160 I've never found any EMF company 00:55:07.160 --> 00:55:08.720 that would not only to test on 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:10.480 not only human blood and urine analysis, 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:11.860 but also on animals, 00:55:11.860 --> 00:55:14.480 which totally weeds out the idea of placebo effect. 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.340 I mean, the fact that you can plug these devices 00:55:17.340 --> 00:55:19.120 into a chicken farm, a factory farm 00:55:19.120 --> 00:55:21.640 for about 15,000 laying hens, 00:55:21.640 --> 00:55:23.500 and all of a sudden the mortality rate, 00:55:23.500 --> 00:55:27.080 which is averages from 60 to 150 deaths per month, 00:55:27.080 --> 00:55:28.480 it goes down to zero. 00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.980 I mean, it's pretty profound that a little device, 00:55:30.980 --> 00:55:32.880 a little energy device could actually like 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.720 create such a harmony and balance within the environment 00:55:35.720 --> 00:55:38.200 to where claustrophobic chickens 00:55:38.200 --> 00:55:40.400 that are crammed in together actually get along better 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:41.360 and actually feel better. 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:45.000 And the biological markers are improved 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:46.240 over that one year study. 00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:47.320 - There's quite a bit of science 00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:48.600 with this Blue Shield product. 00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:50.400 You can see the ad on the front page. 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:55.120 Promo code OneRadio will get you a 10% discount. 00:55:55.120 --> 00:55:57.660 This works on the cells in the body. 00:55:57.660 --> 00:55:58.940 Very cool technology. 00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:02.680 Front page, BlueShield, oneradionetwork.com. 00:56:02.680 --> 00:56:04.080 (upbeat music) 00:56:04.080 --> 00:56:06.060 - Know the source. 00:56:06.060 --> 00:56:08.240 OneRadionetwork.com. 00:56:08.240 --> 00:56:12.160 - Dr. Ray Peat, it is ray, drrayPeat.com. 00:56:12.160 --> 00:56:13.780 Oh, just rayPeat.com. 00:56:13.780 --> 00:56:15.440 Again, grab his newsletter. 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:16.280 It's a great one. 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:17.360 Every couple of months, 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.600 it's not very, very, very cost effective. 00:56:20.600 --> 00:56:22.960 He just kind of gets it out there for you. 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.800 It's rayPeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.840 rayPeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:35.840 As you know, Dr. Peat, we had quite the frigid, 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.580 you know, two weeks here about a month ago. 00:56:39.580 --> 00:56:43.760 And some of the people I talked to at the farmer's market, 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.440 the man lost almost all of his pigs 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.760 because they just couldn't take it. 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:50.720 Isn't that amazing? 00:56:50.720 --> 00:56:51.880 Wow, man. 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:57.800 - Yeah, when it's cold enough to lower your body temperature 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.920 that turns on improper inflammatory signals. 00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:08.000 And so it's at least as bad as having 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.000 a terrible viral infection, 00:57:11.520 --> 00:57:15.360 the activation of inflammation comes on 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.240 when your energy is too low. 00:57:17.240 --> 00:57:21.240 So it doesn't matter whether it's from a poison 00:57:21.240 --> 00:57:24.880 or environmental chilling. 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:25.840 - It doesn't matter. 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.640 So, but there's a lot of people that argue 00:57:28.640 --> 00:57:30.040 like Wim Hof and others, 00:57:30.040 --> 00:57:37.280 that cold water or showers or being out in the cold 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:41.360 could actually make one stronger, no? 00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:46.360 - It's your internal focusing of your metabolism. 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:54.000 The nervous system has to essentially intend 00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.040 to increase your metabolic rate. 00:57:58.040 --> 00:58:01.720 And you can keep your temperature up 00:58:01.720 --> 00:58:06.720 with the right attention. 00:58:06.720 --> 00:58:11.400 But the water that he can tolerate 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:14.800 would very quickly kill a lot of people 00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:16.520 by lowering their temperature. 00:58:16.520 --> 00:58:18.960 - Very interesting. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.080 So let's get to some emails here, Dr. Peat, 00:58:21.080 --> 00:58:22.200 before we let you go. 00:58:22.200 --> 00:58:26.480 This one about aluminum. 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.640 Wants to know, let's see if I can grab it here. 00:58:30.640 --> 00:58:31.480 I lost it for a minute. 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.520 Oh, most perspirants contain aluminum. 00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:36.960 Are there any safe antiperspirants? 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:41.360 And does the aluminum in the ones that do have it 00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.760 detrimental to our health? 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:48.680 - The function of the aluminum is to kill 00:58:48.680 --> 00:58:53.960 and harden the sweat glands. 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.600 So it's killing the cells in your skin 00:58:57.600 --> 00:58:59.200 so that they can't function. 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:06.760 I don't know of any skin studies of aluminum absorption, 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:10.840 but the metals that have been studied, 00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:14.320 like copper solution applied to the skin, 00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.240 it immediately starts showing up in your bloodstream. 00:59:17.240 --> 00:59:21.600 So I don't think it's safe to assume 00:59:21.600 --> 00:59:25.400 that just because the aluminum is sticking 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.960 to your sweat glands in the process of killing them, 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.160 I don't think you can assume that that means 00:59:31.160 --> 00:59:34.160 that some of it isn't getting in your bloodstream. 00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:39.000 - Some people argue that we, many of us are low, 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:40.400 many humans are low on copper. 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.400 Have you ever seen any evidence of that? 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.640 Low on copper? 00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:51.200 - Yeah, the ratio between copper and iron 00:59:51.200 --> 00:59:55.000 and a couple of other minerals is very clear 00:59:55.000 --> 01:00:00.000 so that if your diet has too much molybdenum, for example, 01:00:00.120 --> 01:00:05.080 or iron, that will give you a copper deficiency. 01:00:05.080 --> 01:00:08.400 And if you're under prolonged stress, 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.500 mercury or aluminum or many other stresses 01:00:14.500 --> 01:00:17.900 that increase your cortisol will cause you 01:00:17.900 --> 01:00:22.900 to produce a protein defensively that binds heavy metals 01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:28.840 and will carry mercury and lead and aluminum 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.120 out of your body. 01:00:30.120 --> 01:00:35.120 But in the process, that protein binds a lot of copper. 01:00:35.120 --> 01:00:38.720 And so whenever you're under stress, 01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:42.720 you're tending to lose copper faster than you could. 01:00:42.720 --> 01:00:48.600 And that's probably why stress, extreme stress, 01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:54.280 can sometimes cause sudden loss of pigment 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:55.640 in your skin and hair. 01:00:55.640 --> 01:00:56.680 - Hair, wow. 01:00:57.720 --> 01:01:02.000 So that just leads more kind of grist for the mill, 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.060 this idea of when we worry and get anxious 01:01:05.060 --> 01:01:09.440 or whatever it is, fear that it's detrimental to our health. 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:13.080 And physiologically, we can see that this is what goes on. 01:01:13.080 --> 01:01:13.920 We know it. 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:18.400 - Yeah, that one protein is just one example. 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.640 - Yeah, just one, right, just one. 01:01:20.640 --> 01:01:21.520 This is from Terry. 01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:24.160 He's in Boise, Idaho up there with a buffalo roam, 01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:25.040 or used to. 01:01:25.040 --> 01:01:30.040 Repeat, is the dark ferrichlorogenic acid 01:01:30.040 --> 01:01:36.000 in boiled potatoes unhealthy? 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.240 How do you say that word, ferrichloric? 01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:42.720 Boiled potatoes unhealthy. 01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:47.080 - The green stuff on potatoes. 01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:48.920 - Is that what it is, the green stuff? 01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:53.160 - Yeah, if the skin has turned green 01:01:53.160 --> 01:01:58.160 from exposure to light, yeah, that's pretty toxic. 01:01:58.160 --> 01:01:59.720 It should be trimmed off. 01:01:59.720 --> 01:02:05.280 - Now when we boil potatoes, those are digestibles, right? 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.120 As long as we boil them pretty good? 01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:11.640 - Yeah, and they're almost a perfect nutrient. 01:02:11.640 --> 01:02:15.160 They don't have vitamin B12, 01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:20.160 or the animal form of vitamin A. 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:25.280 Otherwise, they're an extremely balanced food. 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.400 They don't contain much protein as such, 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.720 but they contain the precursors 01:02:30.720 --> 01:02:34.440 that our body needs to make protein. 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.880 So it turns out that people, 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:44.200 there are cultures that have pork once a year for a week, 01:02:44.200 --> 01:02:46.840 and the rest of the year they want potatoes. 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:48.040 - They want potatoes. 01:02:48.040 --> 01:02:49.440 You know, my mom tells a story 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:51.920 that during the Depression, 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.920 and that's about all they really ate was the potatoes. 01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:01.640 - Yeah, the poor Irish were, for a long time, 01:03:01.640 --> 01:03:05.200 living on mainly potato diet, 01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:10.200 and so when potato blight developed, 01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:12.360 and they lost their potato crops, 01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.840 that was when the famine came on, 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:19.840 because everyone was counting on abundant potatoes. 01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.120 - There's so many different kinds. 01:03:22.120 --> 01:03:24.240 We can get different colored ones, 01:03:24.240 --> 01:03:26.240 purple ones now at the Hippie Food Store, 01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:30.200 and gold, and have you, 01:03:30.200 --> 01:03:34.200 are there any that are better for us than others? 01:03:34.200 --> 01:03:37.560 - Those chemicals can be beneficial, 01:03:37.560 --> 01:03:41.760 but I've found them to be extremely hard to digest. 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:46.760 A lot of people have trouble eating purple potatoes. 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.200 The Yukon Gold, because of the high carotene content. 01:03:51.200 --> 01:03:53.040 - High carotene. 01:03:53.040 --> 01:03:57.800 - Yeah, carotene is the precursor to vitamin A, 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.800 but if you are short on vitamin B12 or thyroid hormone, 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.440 you don't convert carotene very well, 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:08.040 and it builds up in the body 01:04:08.040 --> 01:04:11.480 and blocks the function of thyroid hormone, 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:14.320 and then blocks the steroid production, 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:17.360 like blocking progesterone. 01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:20.200 So you don't want to overdo 01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:24.760 the yellow and orange vegetables. 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.240 - How about the little red potatoes, 01:04:27.240 --> 01:04:29.840 and the bakers would be the best choice for potatoes? 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:30.880 If you're gonna like-- 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:36.760 - The white flesh is the easiest to digest 01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:39.240 when it's well baked or well boiled. 01:04:39.240 --> 01:04:40.680 - The white flesh. 01:04:40.680 --> 01:04:42.680 - And so not necessarily, 01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:45.960 it doesn't matter about the red or the baker potato, 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.000 'cause they both have white flesh, right? 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.560 - Yeah, the outside, the skin color doesn't matter. 01:04:51.560 --> 01:04:55.960 - And so potatoes and carrots are squashed with butter. 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:57.600 It's a pretty good meal. 01:04:57.600 --> 01:04:59.040 - Oh, yeah, very good. 01:04:59.040 --> 01:05:01.440 - It's better to cook 'em. 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:02.360 Can you cook 'em together? 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.920 I guess you got the carrots and potatoes last night together. 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:05.880 Works pretty well. 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:09.040 - Yeah, just as long. 01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:12.680 Carrot juice is a way that people often poison themselves 01:05:12.680 --> 01:05:14.760 getting too much carotene. 01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:19.560 But carrots and squashes, 01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:24.560 even though they contain carotene and related things, 01:05:24.560 --> 01:05:29.080 they have lots of good nutrients and other functions. 01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:33.240 - Here's an email from Mohamed. 01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:35.200 He's in Seattle. 01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:37.920 This is a question for Dr. Peat when he comes on the show. 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:40.440 I met with some friends who got the vaccine 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.400 in the last week and know that there's a possibility 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.160 that some of the particles from the vaccine 01:05:46.160 --> 01:05:49.680 can potentially be in my body shedding. 01:05:49.680 --> 01:05:52.280 Is there anything I can do to detox this 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.360 out of my sister system? 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.640 I don't really plan on getting it myself, 01:05:56.640 --> 01:05:58.560 but I know lots of people, 01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:01.200 I'll be around family, friends, and coworkers 01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:04.200 will want to stay safe as possible. 01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:07.620 So do these things can shed bad stuff? 01:06:07.620 --> 01:06:09.120 These injectable? 01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:13.080 - There is some evidence of that. 01:06:13.080 --> 01:06:17.360 It hasn't been studied enough to be sure what's going on, 01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:21.520 but it's always protective to make sure 01:06:21.520 --> 01:06:26.520 that your vitamin D and calcium intakes are good. 01:06:26.520 --> 01:06:31.920 Vitamin D is a powerful anti-inflammatory agent, 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.320 and that function is supported by making sure 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.960 that you have a lot of calcium in your diet 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.480 relative to phosphate. 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:45.760 The phosphate-rich foods are meat, fish, 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.200 and the legumes and grains. 01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:54.200 But people who eat too many beans in proportion 01:06:54.200 --> 01:06:59.400 to leafy greens and milk and cheese 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.420 are likely to have a lot of inflammation-related problems. 01:07:05.500 --> 01:07:08.540 - So that's why you're a fan of milk and cheese, 01:07:08.540 --> 01:07:11.540 a good food in your opinion, your experience. 01:07:11.540 --> 01:07:16.460 - Yeah, many metabolic activating effects, 01:07:16.460 --> 01:07:19.580 not just the high calcium content, 01:07:19.580 --> 01:07:24.580 but several other things that activate your metabolic rate 01:07:24.580 --> 01:07:27.420 and support your thyroid function 01:07:27.420 --> 01:07:32.420 so that you don't get into the stress inflammatory states. 01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:37.900 - Any idea where all of this anti-stuff 01:07:37.900 --> 01:07:46.620 on milk and dairy products come from? 01:07:46.620 --> 01:07:53.700 - Probably many psychological things, 01:07:53.700 --> 01:07:58.700 like for some reason, the medical world 01:07:59.560 --> 01:08:04.560 starting in the 1930s had a great phobia of breasts, 01:08:04.560 --> 01:08:10.800 and they didn't want women breastfeeding their babies, 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:15.800 and they trained women to use artificial formulas. 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:22.840 I think there's a psychiatric motivation there, 01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:29.160 fear of women and children. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:35.000 Having actual skin contact to breastfeed. 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.040 I've known people who extended that 01:08:40.040 --> 01:08:45.600 to have all kinds of strange doctrines 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:50.060 associated with milk. 01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:56.120 The theories have been developed to explain 01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:59.320 why people shouldn't breastfeed 01:08:59.320 --> 01:09:04.320 and why they shouldn't drink milk after infancy, 01:09:04.320 --> 01:09:09.840 but none of it was based on actual studies 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:13.200 of what happens when people or animals 01:09:13.200 --> 01:09:16.840 drink milk as part of their diet. 01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:18.520 - This is a great question that ties right in. 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.920 This is from Trent. 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:24.360 Some people advocate if you're doing raw milk 01:09:24.360 --> 01:09:27.120 regardless of goat or cow or whatever, 01:09:27.120 --> 01:09:29.440 that we boil it before drinking. 01:09:29.440 --> 01:09:32.280 Does Dr. Peat have an opinion about this? 01:09:32.280 --> 01:09:37.340 - If you think your cow might have a disease, 01:09:37.340 --> 01:09:43.280 or if the person doing the milking didn't know how to do it 01:09:43.280 --> 01:09:49.720 and let bits of dandruff and manure and junk get in the milk, 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.400 yeah, bringing it to a boil 01:09:53.400 --> 01:09:58.400 or at least a sterilizing temperature of 160 or so degrees. 01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:02.080 - Would there be a difference 01:10:02.080 --> 01:10:05.080 between that pasteurization temperature of 160 01:10:05.080 --> 01:10:07.640 or boiling 160 might do it? 01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:11.920 - A little bit of difference, but it isn't serious. 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:13.520 - So maybe, excuse me, 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.040 maybe that's where it all comes from 01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:17.400 and the idea from Ayurvedic medicine, 01:10:17.400 --> 01:10:20.720 which is centered in India, 01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:22.400 where this third world country, 01:10:22.400 --> 01:10:24.560 which is more the sanitation, 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.280 maybe that's where the milk boiling thing comes from. 01:10:28.280 --> 01:10:29.120 - Oh yeah, yeah. 01:10:29.120 --> 01:10:34.120 I've bought milk coming in a big bowl or something 01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:40.720 and found bits of manure sedimented to the bottom. 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:42.080 - Okay. 01:10:42.080 --> 01:10:43.360 Does Ray Peat have an opinion 01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:47.160 regarding the aminoacetal carnitine's ability 01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:50.440 to slower the shortening rate of telomeres, 01:10:50.440 --> 01:10:55.400 excuse me, resulting in life extension, 01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:58.760 as I had to cough there, as well as better health. 01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.320 Is there a danger of consuming 01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:03.280 two grams of L-carnitine per day? 01:11:03.280 --> 01:11:09.200 - I've never seen any studies on its toxicity, 01:11:09.200 --> 01:11:13.520 but a lot of things will change the rate 01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:17.120 of telomere shortening. 01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:22.120 But I don't think of the telomere 01:11:22.120 --> 01:11:26.360 as such a great indicator of aging. 01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:31.360 Some very old people have good, strong telomeres. 01:11:31.360 --> 01:11:37.440 Some people in their 20s already have very short telomeres, 01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:39.520 but their health hasn't suffered. 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:45.600 - So this telomere measuring thing to get your biological age 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:50.320 could all just be one of those passing fancies 01:11:50.320 --> 01:11:52.600 that won't be around very long? 01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:56.360 - Well, it might be around for a long time. 01:11:56.360 --> 01:12:01.920 I think who was responsible for it 01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:07.960 was culturing in the 1960s. 01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:11.200 He was growing cells in culture, 01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:16.200 and noticed that after, I think it was about 50 passages 01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:24.880 in culture, 50 cell divisions, that they died out, 01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:30.360 and that that was preceded by a shortening of the telomere. 01:12:30.360 --> 01:12:35.920 But he basically was doing a totally unbiological thing. 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:40.000 A totally unbiological way of culturing 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:41.920 with a buildup of lactic acid, 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:46.440 which accelerates the aging and inflammatory processes, 01:12:46.440 --> 01:12:50.760 and in itself will shorten the telomeres. 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:55.480 So it's all based on a terrible, 01:12:55.480 --> 01:13:00.480 a non-scientific science, so-called science. 01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:02.480 - So-called science, yeah. 01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:06.320 Ray Peat is with us on the third Monday of every month, 01:13:06.320 --> 01:13:09.040 and it's March 15th, we're live here. 01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:12.120 This is from WC, Dr. Peat in Chattanooga, Tennessee, 01:13:12.120 --> 01:13:12.960 great part of the country. 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.480 My wife has a slow-growing brain tumor 01:13:16.480 --> 01:13:19.520 that's moving towards the optic part of the brain, 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.920 and it may need to be removed before loss of vision. 01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:25.000 I understand you're not a brain surgeon, of course, 01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:26.240 and can't give medical advice, 01:13:26.240 --> 01:13:30.760 but can you give your opinion on how this may have 01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.720 originated and how to slow its growth? 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.120 - It depends greatly on what tissue it started from. 01:13:39.120 --> 01:13:44.480 Mentioning the optic nerve suggests it might have originated 01:13:44.480 --> 01:13:47.840 in or near the pituitary gland, 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.120 and many of those tumors are 01:13:51.120 --> 01:13:55.480 curable by a chemical, 01:13:55.480 --> 01:13:59.000 bromocryptin or cabergoline 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.840 are two of the chemicals that have been used 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.680 to shrink pituitary tumors, 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:09.680 and those tumors became extremely common 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:13.760 after the birth control pill was introduced, 01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:18.760 so they're basically produced by an excess of estrogen. 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:23.160 And in general, tumors, 01:14:23.160 --> 01:14:27.200 even so-called malignant tumors, 01:14:27.200 --> 01:14:32.200 are restrained to some degree 01:14:32.200 --> 01:14:37.080 by aspirin and other anti-inflammatory things. 01:14:37.080 --> 01:14:42.080 Even antihistamines have a very basic 01:14:42.080 --> 01:14:46.280 anti-tumor effect, antiserotonin agents, 01:14:46.280 --> 01:14:51.280 because histamine and serotonin are tumor promoters. 01:14:51.280 --> 01:14:55.920 - I've known people who've been diagnosed with a tumor, 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.720 albeit small, in the brain and have just left it alone, 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:01.320 have never been bothered by it, 01:15:01.320 --> 01:15:04.360 and do you think something like that, 01:15:04.360 --> 01:15:07.880 just with more anti-inflammatory foods and things, 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.440 it will just dissipate or? 01:15:10.440 --> 01:15:11.920 - Yeah, I think, 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:21.520 I think it was an English person who did the first study 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:23.320 doing autopsies. 01:15:23.320 --> 01:15:28.320 He found that everyone by the age of 50 could, 01:15:28.320 --> 01:15:32.520 when he looked through their tissues, 01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:36.480 he found 100% of people 50 years old or more 01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:41.040 who had diagnosable cancer tissue in their bodies, 01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:46.040 and since 100% of living people in their 50s 01:15:46.040 --> 01:15:49.200 don't suffer from cancer, 01:15:49.200 --> 01:15:53.760 what that obviously means is that for most people, 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:55.960 the majority of people, 01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:00.960 the presence of cancer that a surgeon can prove is cancerous 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:07.800 if it happens to be biopsied and studied, 01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:10.680 the presence of cancer in the body for most people 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.200 isn't going to kill them. 01:16:13.200 --> 01:16:15.920 - In your opinion, it's just not a problem, 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:17.760 just leave it alone? 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.680 - Yeah, that was finally put into practice 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.860 in the case of prostate cancer. 01:16:22.860 --> 01:16:29.120 In the 80s, the prostate-specific antigen was discovered, 01:16:29.120 --> 01:16:33.280 and they started using it to diagnose 01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:36.160 whether a person had prostate cancer, 01:16:36.160 --> 01:16:39.160 and the standard treatment at that time 01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:41.960 was high doses of estrogen, 01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:47.040 and high doses of estrogen are not good for your health, 01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:52.040 but that was starting around 1940s, 01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:56.160 that was a standard treatment for everyone. 01:16:56.160 --> 01:17:01.160 And so when the PSA test diagnosed many, many more people 01:17:01.160 --> 01:17:06.000 as having prostate cancer, 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.120 the treatment increased, 01:17:10.120 --> 01:17:15.120 and the mortality had a great surge in the early 90s. 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.720 More people were dying from prostate cancer very suddenly, 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:25.440 and they realized that the treatment 01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:28.440 was what was killing most of the people. 01:17:28.440 --> 01:17:31.040 - Because they were increasing the estrogen, 01:17:31.040 --> 01:17:33.120 which was making matters worse. 01:17:33.120 --> 01:17:36.040 - Yeah, and someone did the survey 01:17:36.040 --> 01:17:41.040 at a convention of specialists in the prostate, 01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:43.440 and asked them what they would do 01:17:43.440 --> 01:17:47.040 if they were diagnosed with prostate cancer. 01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:51.000 And most of them said they would do nothing, 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:53.640 because they had seen the effects of their treatments. 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:56.640 But they went on giving the treatment to their patients, 01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:58.640 but they said they wouldn't do it themselves. 01:17:58.640 --> 01:17:59.720 - Fascinating. 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:04.400 - And growing from that bit of publicity in the 90s, 01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:06.320 by the start of this century, 01:18:06.320 --> 01:18:10.720 the idea of watchful waiting for prostate cancer, 01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.720 that they acknowledged that you're going 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.940 to almost certainly die from something else 01:18:19.940 --> 01:18:24.320 before the prostate cancer will kill most people. 01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:29.320 So just watching it became a better treatment, 01:18:29.320 --> 01:18:34.040 and for sure better than giving estrogen. 01:18:34.040 --> 01:18:36.080 - Jacqueline is in Pennsylvania. 01:18:36.080 --> 01:18:39.640 I often get severe headaches during menstruation. 01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:42.080 Does Dr. Peat have any reasons 01:18:42.080 --> 01:18:45.060 for the cause and cure of this? 01:18:45.060 --> 01:18:51.360 - Yeah, I used to have migraines frequently, 01:18:51.360 --> 01:18:53.560 right from childhood. 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:57.240 And after I had been working with progesterone 01:18:57.240 --> 01:19:02.240 for a few years, I happened to have a concentrated solution 01:19:02.240 --> 01:19:08.080 of progesterone and vitamin E as a headache was coming on. 01:19:08.200 --> 01:19:13.200 And I took a gob of that, and within seconds, 01:19:13.200 --> 01:19:18.120 the visual effects subsided and the pain, 01:19:18.120 --> 01:19:23.120 and that got me interested in the vascular effect 01:19:23.120 --> 01:19:32.000 of a high estrogen and low progesterone. 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:38.760 The blood sugar and salt balance are governed 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:43.120 by estrogen and progesterone balance. 01:19:43.120 --> 01:19:48.120 And so the changing hormones, 01:19:48.120 --> 01:19:53.800 especially at the end of menstruation 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:55.880 when your progesterone has crashed, 01:19:55.880 --> 01:20:01.840 then that's when you're very susceptible to migraines. 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:07.920 And just eating a tremendous amount of sugar, 01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:13.160 I found, would block the development of a migraine. 01:20:13.160 --> 01:20:21.800 Essentially, the same thing is happening 01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:26.800 when you raise your blood sugar strongly 01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:30.920 or raise your progesterone concentration 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:32.960 in your blood suddenly. 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:39.040 The inflammatory signals are blocked 01:20:39.040 --> 01:20:42.680 when you have a stabilizing factor, 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:46.080 which could be sugar or progesterone, 01:20:46.080 --> 01:20:49.200 or aspirin and other things help, 01:20:49.200 --> 01:20:53.480 but sugar and progesterone are the most powerful 01:20:53.480 --> 01:20:54.920 stabilizing factors. 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:56.720 - So Jacqueline could have a little bit of ice cream 01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:59.600 when her period is coming on, some ice cream, right? 01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:00.800 Orange juice, right? 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:04.440 - I told a nutrition class once 01:21:04.440 --> 01:21:08.520 that I found a quart of ice cream if I could eat it 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:12.320 before the peak of the headache 01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:14.160 would block the rest of the headache. 01:21:14.160 --> 01:21:17.600 One woman in the class giggled and said 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:20.040 she had discovered the same thing, 01:21:20.040 --> 01:21:21.560 except it took a gallon. 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:24.000 - That's great. 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.120 Now there's also, and I know you like a little product, 01:21:27.120 --> 01:21:30.640 and I think it's called Progest-E, is that correct? 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:32.240 - Yeah, that's one I-- 01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:34.640 - You developed. 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:37.560 - Yeah, when I was working on it, 01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:41.160 I tested it on myself twice for migraines, 01:21:41.160 --> 01:21:44.120 and both times within about two minutes, 01:21:44.120 --> 01:21:45.720 it was all over. 01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:52.440 So then I met a woman with multiple sclerosis 01:21:52.440 --> 01:22:00.200 and another one with an ocular disease 01:22:00.200 --> 01:22:03.280 ocular optic nerve condition 01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:06.600 that was related to multiple sclerosis. 01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.360 And both of those women, 01:22:09.360 --> 01:22:13.080 one woman was giving it by injections 01:22:13.080 --> 01:22:17.200 and basically cured herself. 01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:21.480 She came to my endocrinology class. 01:22:21.480 --> 01:22:25.000 She had been bedridden for months and months, 01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.160 but when she discovered progesterone, 01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:30.480 she drove to Portland, 01:22:30.480 --> 01:22:36.760 walked up, I think it was three flights to my classroom, 01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:41.640 and lectured for an hour on the use of progesterone. 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:46.440 Absolute strong health just by the use of progesterone. 01:22:46.440 --> 01:22:47.280 - Interesting. 01:22:47.280 --> 01:22:51.160 Where can our listeners get this Progest-E 01:22:51.160 --> 01:22:53.300 that you developed, helped develop? 01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.920 - Yeah, Kenogen has been making it for decades. 01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:01.600 - Kenogen, how do you spell that? 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:03.880 - K-E-N-O-G-E-N. 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:04.720 - Yeah. 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.720 - And their email is kenogen@gmail.com. 01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:17.160 - Okay, and then you just need a couple drops of that, 01:23:17.160 --> 01:23:19.440 and so Jacqueline could try some of this 01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:21.560 when her period is coming on. 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.520 - Well, yeah, that's a first aid, 01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:28.520 but the reason progesterone gets too low 01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:30.600 and blood sugar gets too low 01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:35.600 is almost always a nutritional and thyroid-related problem. 01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:40.560 So you should check your thyroid and vitamin D 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:45.560 and calcium intake, and usually that will take care of it. 01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:48.240 - Yeah, and she lives up in Pennsylvania, 01:23:48.240 --> 01:23:51.960 so it could especially be exacerbated during the winter 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.800 when there's not a lot of sun. 01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:55.280 - Yeah. - Right, yeah. 01:23:55.280 --> 01:23:56.680 This is Thomas in Sweden, 01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:58.920 and it goes exactly along their lines 01:23:58.920 --> 01:23:59.960 where we're talking right now. 01:23:59.960 --> 01:24:01.920 I wonder if Dr. Peat is aware of the work 01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:06.640 of Dr. D-Z-U-G-A-N, previously connected 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:09.600 with life extension, curing migraines, 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:11.920 oh, migraines too, and other chronic diseases 01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:18.000 with oral DHEA pregnenolone as well as testosterone, 01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:21.360 progesterone, and estrogen in the forms of creams. 01:24:21.360 --> 01:24:23.460 Living in Sweden, I can barely get my hands 01:24:23.460 --> 01:24:27.920 on DHEA and pregnenolone, and so I wonder 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.640 if, done right, this might be enough 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.080 to cure migraines for most people, myself included. 01:24:34.080 --> 01:24:38.000 Oh, very, very same genre of questioning here. 01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:43.080 - Yeah, the ideal thing is to have 01:24:43.080 --> 01:24:50.080 such a good conversion of cholesterol to pregnenolone, 01:24:50.440 --> 01:24:54.720 and of pregnenolone to DHEA and progesterone, 01:24:54.720 --> 01:25:01.340 that you don't have to resort to stress factors 01:25:01.340 --> 01:25:06.380 such as cortisol, aldosterone, and estrogen. 01:25:06.380 --> 01:25:11.380 Those are opposed by pregnenolone, DHEA, and progesterone, 01:25:11.380 --> 01:25:14.860 and thyroid is the main factor 01:25:14.860 --> 01:25:19.420 for converting your cholesterol to those. 01:25:19.420 --> 01:25:22.060 So if your cholesterol is low, 01:25:22.060 --> 01:25:26.620 besides tending to your thyroid, 01:25:26.620 --> 01:25:30.140 you have to figure out how to get 01:25:30.140 --> 01:25:32.940 your cholesterol up to normal. 01:25:32.940 --> 01:25:37.160 But usually, people with high cholesterol, 01:25:37.160 --> 01:25:39.460 when they supplement the right amount of thyroid, 01:25:39.460 --> 01:25:44.340 the cholesterol comes down exactly as the thyroid 01:25:44.340 --> 01:25:45.460 takes effect. 01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:47.600 - Interesting, very good. 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:50.960 This is from Jones. 01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:54.040 If one were to forced to take a vaccine, 01:25:54.040 --> 01:25:58.160 would the J&J vaccine be the lesser of the two evils? 01:25:58.160 --> 01:26:01.900 What could one take to help offset the side effects 01:26:01.900 --> 01:26:03.640 of the J&J vaccine? 01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:05.080 Johnson & Johnson, I guess. 01:26:05.080 --> 01:26:11.400 - Well, it contains the DNA that makes the spike protein, 01:26:11.400 --> 01:26:14.240 and I don't think the spike protein is-- 01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:16.040 - That's not what we want, no. 01:26:16.040 --> 01:26:19.160 - Yeah, you don't want a gene in your body 01:26:19.160 --> 01:26:24.160 for making this terrible pro-inflammation protein. 01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:31.120 I think it's the presence of the spike protein 01:26:31.120 --> 01:26:35.920 that is the danger in the long run. 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:38.280 If you have the DNA for it, 01:26:38.280 --> 01:26:43.120 you can't be sure that that DNA isn't going to 01:26:43.120 --> 01:26:45.840 become part of your own repertoire. 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:50.840 And then that would mean that every time you activated 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:55.400 that gene, you would be making more of the spike protein. 01:26:55.400 --> 01:27:01.840 And again, that spike protein andogen is producing 01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:07.120 antibodies to specialize for it, 01:27:07.120 --> 01:27:10.700 and so it's damaging the rest of your immune system. 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:16.760 - So have you read anything that would support the idea 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:23.240 that this Russian Sputnik so-called vaccine 01:27:23.240 --> 01:27:26.740 is a kinder, gentler vaccine? 01:27:26.740 --> 01:27:29.840 More with the antibodies and not so much 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:32.120 of the genetic nonsense? 01:27:32.120 --> 01:27:35.640 - No, I've heard that, but I haven't studied it 01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:37.240 enough to know. 01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:39.440 - Here's from CB, "I've read DNA is swapped 01:27:39.440 --> 01:27:40.560 between partners. 01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:43.440 If this is the case, can a vaccinated partner 01:27:43.440 --> 01:27:46.360 swap their altered DNA with a partner 01:27:46.360 --> 01:27:47.880 who has not been vaccinated?" 01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:48.720 Wow. 01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:55.800 - I think that is being supported by some evidence 01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:58.760 that just needs a lot more study. 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.760 But for sure, a woman sampling her tissues 01:28:08.400 --> 01:28:13.200 and body fluids, but after death, brain tissue, 01:28:13.200 --> 01:28:16.680 for example, has been found. 01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:21.680 A woman's cells have taken up her male, 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:25.420 her partner's DNA. 01:28:25.420 --> 01:28:31.680 The semen is absorbed by the woman's tissues 01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:36.520 and become incorporated in all of the tissues 01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:37.360 of her body. 01:28:37.360 --> 01:28:43.520 So DNA from humans apparently has some good 01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:48.320 biological properties. 01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:53.320 The woman uses it in her process of reproduction. 01:28:53.320 --> 01:28:58.560 But stranger forms of DNA, like from algae, 01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:04.520 can also be found in the brain after you've eaten 01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:08.560 a slightly harmful food. 01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:09.880 - You've mentioned algae before. 01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:13.080 Are there any forms of algae, maybe fresh or something 01:29:13.080 --> 01:29:14.680 that are beneficial? 01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:18.780 Like there's one that they promoted for years 01:29:18.780 --> 01:29:22.440 up near you, the aqua, you know which one I mean? 01:29:22.440 --> 01:29:23.440 - Yeah, the blue. 01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:25.280 - Blue-green, is that good stuff? 01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:28.760 - It's actually a kind of bacteria, I think, 01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:30.760 rather than real algae. 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:35.000 But I think it's too dangerous. 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:40.000 And even the real algaes have irritating 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:43.360 and toxic problem nutrients. 01:29:43.360 --> 01:29:49.480 Green plants in general have their defensive materials. 01:29:49.480 --> 01:29:56.000 So I think it's better to let animals with rumens 01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:02.920 process plant material before it's taken in. 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:07.440 If you're going to eat anything green, 01:30:07.440 --> 01:30:11.520 you should be sure that you know 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:13.280 what the processing is doing. 01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:19.160 Like a very long cooking of green leaves 01:30:19.160 --> 01:30:22.080 makes some of the toxins break down. 01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:27.080 But still you're going to get some anti-nutrient factors. 01:30:27.160 --> 01:30:29.320 If you eat too many vegetables. 01:30:29.320 --> 01:30:32.840 - So that's why we want to cook kale well. 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:33.880 - Very well, yeah. 01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:35.040 - Very well. 01:30:35.040 --> 01:30:37.920 Final one for you, then you get to go play. 01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:41.240 Assuming that thyroid status is optimal 01:30:41.240 --> 01:30:43.520 or supplemental as necessary, 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:46.560 what are the expected optimal blood cholesterol levels 01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:49.180 for different various age groups? 01:30:49.180 --> 01:30:56.240 - Just the epidemiological information shows 01:30:56.240 --> 01:30:59.520 that after the age of 50, 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:04.520 if your cholesterol level is not above 200, 01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:09.120 your risk of having dementia is a lot higher. 01:31:09.120 --> 01:31:15.240 And so that's apparently because not only your thyroid 01:31:15.240 --> 01:31:19.500 tends to become less efficient with aging, 01:31:19.500 --> 01:31:24.500 but all of the enzymes involved in converting 01:31:24.840 --> 01:31:29.840 cholesterol to the good protective things like protesterone, 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:34.120 all of those become less effective in older age. 01:31:34.120 --> 01:31:39.120 And so as you increase your blood cholesterol level 01:31:39.120 --> 01:31:44.760 at keeping those other things steady, 01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:49.000 you're going to increase your level of pregnenolone 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:52.560 and protesterone because cholesterol 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:56.400 is very largely functioning as a precursor 01:31:56.400 --> 01:31:58.520 to those protective steroids. 01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:02.680 - So that's why a higher 180, 190, 200, 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:05.720 pretty safe and happy levels for most folks. 01:32:05.720 --> 01:32:08.960 - Yeah, and over 50, 220, 230 is fine. 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:10.880 - Oh, so I see, yeah. 01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.560 Yeah, Dr. Huggins, one of our longtime friends, 01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:16.860 he used to, I think he even wrote a book, Dr. Peat, 01:32:16.860 --> 01:32:19.200 called "225" and that was his favorite number. 01:32:19.200 --> 01:32:21.800 He would test all these blood samples of people 01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:25.080 and he thought that the 225 was optimal for people. 01:32:25.080 --> 01:32:26.740 It's interesting, 225. 01:32:26.740 --> 01:32:30.780 Well, Mr. Peat, it's such an honor to talk to you. 01:32:30.780 --> 01:32:31.720 Thanks for being there. 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.280 What are you going to do fun today, anything? 01:32:34.280 --> 01:32:36.600 You painting a lot these days? 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:38.280 - Oh, no, not much. 01:32:38.280 --> 01:32:39.120 - No? 01:32:39.120 --> 01:32:41.760 - But I'll be getting around to it. 01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:42.600 - Yeah. 01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:44.720 - I haven't thought about today. 01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:49.000 I'm working on the newsletter on inflammation right now. 01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.240 I'll probably be doing that. 01:32:51.240 --> 01:32:55.400 - And when does this newsletter come out on inflammation? 01:32:55.400 --> 01:33:00.160 - Towards the end of this month or beginning of April. 01:33:00.160 --> 01:33:02.640 - And if you'd like to get Dr. Peat's newsletter, 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:06.200 it's, let's see, is it Dr. Ray, I used to, 01:33:06.200 --> 01:33:07.440 I had it there for a minute, 01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:09.600 oh, Ray Peat's newsletter, plural, right? 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.440 RayPeat'sNewsletter@gmail.com. 01:33:12.440 --> 01:33:13.280 - Yeah. 01:33:13.280 --> 01:33:14.120 - Correct? 01:33:14.120 --> 01:33:16.240 All right, sir, again, thank you very much 01:33:16.240 --> 01:33:17.160 for being on the show. 01:33:17.160 --> 01:33:18.560 We appreciate it, thanks a lot. 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:19.720 - Okay, thank you. 01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:21.200 - See you real soon, bye. 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:24.120 - Dr. Ray Peat, Patrick Timpone, 01:33:24.120 --> 01:33:27.880 Ray, OneRadioNetwork.com. 01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:30.600 Well, what a fun guy to talk to, huh? 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.880 So again, we have a Show Me the Virus show 01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:37.920 with Dr. Kaufman and Cowan, 01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:40.320 two of the people that are out there 01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:42.640 really talking about the germ theory. 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:46.520 They're gonna be here Wednesday, two days from now, 01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:48.600 10 o'clock Central Time, 01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:52.440 so a great chance for you to ask them some good questions. 01:33:52.440 --> 01:33:54.800 Don't be shy, just dig right in, 01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.480 and if what they're saying is kinda crazy to you, 01:33:58.480 --> 01:34:01.200 but more and more people are, 01:34:01.200 --> 01:34:05.160 even Dr. Peat and Zach Bush and others are pretty close, 01:34:05.160 --> 01:34:07.720 pretty close to what they're saying. 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:11.320 A few exceptions, but there's always different viewpoints 01:34:11.320 --> 01:34:13.960 and different parameters. 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:15.640 It's not black and white. 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:18.400 So anyway, if you care to ask them a question, 01:34:18.400 --> 01:34:20.600 you can get your questions in now, 01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:23.080 patrick@oneradionetwork.com, 01:34:23.080 --> 01:34:28.000 patrick@oneradionetwork.com, 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.960 and we will see you then on, 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.480 well, we'll see you tomorrow morning, about 10 o'clock. 01:34:33.480 --> 01:34:36.440 We're gonna talk to a fellow from the World Bank. 01:34:36.440 --> 01:34:38.360 That's right, the belly of the beast, 01:34:38.360 --> 01:34:41.680 people that are into globalism, fiat currencies, 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:46.120 and we're gonna try to find out why they do what they do. 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.000 (silence) 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:50.000 That'll be fun. 01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.240 Tomorrow morning, 10 o'clock Central Time. 01:34:53.240 --> 01:34:54.800 I love you all very much. 01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:56.280 Thanks for your ongoing support. 01:34:56.280 --> 01:34:59.000 It's just a great honor for me to be here 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:00.680 and make a living doing this 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:04.320 in my little studio up above my kitchen 01:35:04.320 --> 01:35:06.600 here in Dripping Springs, Texas. 01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:07.520 Let me know if I can help, 01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:11.920 patrick@oneradionetwork.com. 01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:13.880 So I love you, 01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.800 and we'll see you tomorrow morning, Tuesday, 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.040 the 16th of March at 10 o'clock. 01:35:20.040 --> 01:35:20.880 Take care. 01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:22.120 May the blessings be. 01:35:22.120 --> 01:35:25.040 (upbeat music) 01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:26.800 - 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