WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.000 Okay. 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:02.000 [music] 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Broadcasting from the beautiful Hill Country in Texas, this is OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:18.000 Okay, we're calling Dr. Ray Peat now, and I think we're all connected with him, and 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:20.000 we're going to do it. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.000 Patrick Timpone, OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:30.240 Dr. Ray Peat is a PhD in biology, University of Oregon, specialization in physiology. 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:36.200 He's taught schools all over the place, University of Oregon, Urbana College, Montana State University, 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.960 National College, Naturopathic Medicine. 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:47.840 He started years ago with progesterone-related hormones, 1968, and he's been working in 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:54.320 both practical and theoretical aspects of all this work that he does, which has been 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:55.480 a very, very long time. 00:00:55.480 --> 00:00:59.520 I believe it's about 85 years around the sun. 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.080 I believe that's what he said. 00:01:01.080 --> 00:01:03.080 Dr. Peat, good morning. 00:01:03.080 --> 00:01:04.080 Good morning. 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:05.080 How are you doing? 00:01:05.080 --> 00:01:06.080 Very good. 00:01:06.080 --> 00:01:09.080 Are you really 85 revolutions around the sun? 00:01:09.080 --> 00:01:10.080 No, no. 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:16.080 Yesterday I saw a thing on the internet saying I'm 83, but I'm really only 82. 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:17.080 Oh, 82. 00:01:17.080 --> 00:01:18.080 Oh, gosh. 00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:25.000 You mean we can't believe everything that we read on the internet? 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:26.000 One place said I was 114. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.000 That's right. 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:28.000 This guy's been around so long, man. 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:29.000 He's 114. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.000 He's 114. 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:43.080 Who are some of your real heroes in the field of health and nutrition and healing? 00:01:43.080 --> 00:01:46.080 Dr. Peat, the work that you do, some real heroes for you. 00:01:46.080 --> 00:01:59.200 Oh, I read lots of old books that the family had, early 20th century and mid-19th century 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.200 even. 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:09.080 Lots of the people were not very well known, but there was a lot of good information in 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:18.240 the medical culture that was pushed aside starting around the Second World War. 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:22.960 The pharmaceutical industry really took over medicine. 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:31.880 For example, one of my early interests was a doctor who wrote columns in the newspapers 00:02:31.880 --> 00:02:38.880 for many years, Walter C. Alvarez, a gastroenterologist. 00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:45.320 He was, in a way, pushing a conventional line. 00:02:45.320 --> 00:02:56.760 For example, in the 19th century, doctors believed in food digestion poisoning, bacterial 00:02:56.760 --> 00:02:58.960 poisoning in the intestine. 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:07.520 He wanted to disprove that, showing that toxins didn't cause headaches. 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:20.000 So to show that it was just a myth, nothing very subtle or chemical, he stuffed his medical 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:25.320 students' rectums with cotton wads. 00:03:25.320 --> 00:03:33.800 All of those who were susceptible to headaches got a headache just from the cotton pressure. 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:43.360 He said that this disproves the idea that headaches are caused by toxicity in the intestine. 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:50.920 But of course, that didn't logically prove anything, just that pressure is enough, and 00:03:50.920 --> 00:03:58.000 toxins often lead to pressure in the intestine. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:06.040 A lot of Russians were showing the interaction of the nervous system with the intestine around 00:04:06.040 --> 00:04:09.240 that same time. 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:19.480 Nervism was a 19th century concentration or theory of medicine in Russia. 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:27.160 They saw the nervous system as controlling sickness, and so the interaction of the digestive 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:34.440 system and the brain was a big topic of research in Russia. 00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:42.480 They showed that if you put a balloon in an animal's intestine and inflated it, nothing 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:47.920 would happen if the animal's blood sugar was good. 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:54.960 But if you lowered the blood sugar and inflated the intestine, then it would cause all kinds 00:04:54.960 --> 00:05:02.720 of things, like asthma, seizures, the equivalent of headache, vascular distortions all through 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.160 the organism. 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:14.480 So the combination of energy in the form of blood sugar and stress in the intestine will 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:22.320 cause that whole range of so-called psychosomatic ailments. 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:34.160 Some French Canadians following Hans Selye showed that the immune system similarly interacts 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:42.360 with the intestine and the energy supply, that if you drop the blood glucose level, 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:50.680 the intestine becomes extremely sensitive to allergens that otherwise wouldn't be noticed. 00:05:50.680 --> 00:06:01.680 So the energy and the brain, which has the highest requirement for glucose as its energy 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:11.560 source, these are behind the psychosomatic and allergic ailments. 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:17.800 So it's fair to say then there's so many different components in the nervous system 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:27.080 and everything, the way we think and all that, that are contributing to all the gut issues 00:06:27.080 --> 00:06:29.000 that are out there today. 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:30.560 Blood sugar. 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:40.480 Yeah, about 20, 30 years ago, some psychologists were demonstrating that helplessness, learned 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:51.280 helplessness, training the brain to believe that escape is impossible, made the whole 00:06:51.280 --> 00:06:54.440 organism shut down. 00:06:54.440 --> 00:07:01.820 The heart would stop beating in a few minutes rather than a few hours if the animal was 00:07:01.820 --> 00:07:05.080 convinced that escape was possible. 00:07:05.080 --> 00:07:15.400 So the whole organism is either energized or shut down by the perspective that's possible. 00:07:15.400 --> 00:07:20.960 So insight becomes a life-saving matter. 00:07:20.960 --> 00:07:27.320 So wow, you can extrapolate that out, Dr. Peat, and just think all the things physiologically 00:07:27.320 --> 00:07:31.760 going on with people who are feeling trapped in their life or trapped in their job or their 00:07:31.760 --> 00:07:37.440 relationship or just trapped on planet Earth and don't have a good sense of why they're 00:07:37.440 --> 00:07:39.520 here, that kind of thing. 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:43.120 What kind of factors that would play on their physical health? 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:48.360 Yeah, I've seen that happen just with medical diagnosis. 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:57.120 The doctor tells a person that they have an incurable disease and they pretty soon die. 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:03.280 Is it any surprise to you after all these years that we're so inextricably connected 00:08:03.280 --> 00:08:08.160 with everything that we think and believe and feel along with all the other factors? 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:12.800 I mean, is it surprising to you that this thing was all wired up like this? 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:14.480 No, no. 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:19.200 It makes sense, really, I guess. 00:08:19.200 --> 00:08:29.720 I never was committed to any particular so-called scientific view of the world. 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:39.000 And it all seemed perfectly reasonable to a perfectly ignorant kid looking at the world 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:45.040 and hearing these different experiments. 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:55.680 So, the so-called scientific medicine always seemed like a closed dogmatic way of seeing 00:08:55.680 --> 00:08:56.680 things. 00:08:56.680 --> 00:09:02.280 Were they just looking at things in parts or taking the brain apart and saying, "Well, 00:09:02.280 --> 00:09:05.120 this is how the brain works," that kind of thing? 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:06.120 Yeah. 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:16.680 , and since about the 1940s, the pharmaceutical industry has shaped medical ideas so that 00:09:16.680 --> 00:09:23.420 it's really an outlet for their products. 00:09:23.420 --> 00:09:30.160 You get a diagnosis and then you can funnel the drugs in. 00:09:30.160 --> 00:09:39.960 And anything curative, like the old medical practice of giving people bran to cure constipation, 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:50.240 like the Kellogg Institute, that isn't profitable to the pharmaceutical industry. 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.440 Isn't that how the Kellogg's guy started? 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.440 Didn't he had a whole thing about constipation? 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:56.440 Yeah. 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.320 What's the guy's name? 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.880 I don't remember his first name, but Kellogg. 00:10:01.880 --> 00:10:02.880 Kellogg, yeah. 00:10:02.880 --> 00:10:03.880 Yeah. 00:10:03.880 --> 00:10:06.720 So, his whole thing was constipation, wasn't it? 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:07.720 Yeah. 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:17.840 And in the mid-19th century in England and France, the autopsy cause of death was often 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:22.120 given as inflammation of the intestine. 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:32.520 But now, I think they see that just as often, but having an inflamed colon is a very common 00:10:32.520 --> 00:10:38.680 thing in a dying person, but they don't think of it as the cause of death. 00:10:38.680 --> 00:10:45.240 Oh, because everything begins to shut down and they don't go to the bathroom much at 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:46.240 all? 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:47.240 Yeah. 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:53.280 There's people like Walter Alvarez who said, "See, it isn't toxins causing a headache. 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:54.280 It's just the pressure." 00:10:54.280 --> 00:11:04.440 And that took attention away from the intestine as a constant source of toxins and allergens, 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:12.760 but it's really our most susceptible interface with the outside world. 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:18.880 We're constantly putting these risky substances into our system. 00:11:18.880 --> 00:11:20.960 Risky substances, I like the way you say it. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.480 So that's why some folks, you've heard over the years, where they get constipated and 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:32.000 they get a headache, and those two tend to go together. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.960 Oh, sure. 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:38.680 And asthma attacks and seizures. 00:11:38.680 --> 00:11:47.800 When I was about 10, our dog found a coffee can full of bacon grease that had been saved 00:11:47.800 --> 00:11:49.560 to make soap. 00:11:49.560 --> 00:11:56.120 The dog liked the taste and ate the whole quart of bacon grease and had a seizure. 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.640 And that started me. 00:11:59.640 --> 00:12:08.600 I think that was what made Walter Alvarez's publication so interesting, to see a seizure 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:12.440 brought on by eating fat. 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:20.560 I saw that lots of people had experimented showing that the intestine could trigger a 00:12:20.560 --> 00:12:29.680 seizure or headache or runny nose, sore throat, just about any symptom you can think of can 00:12:29.680 --> 00:12:32.820 be triggered from the intestine. 00:12:32.820 --> 00:12:35.840 So the dog just had so much he just couldn't deal with all that fat. 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:36.840 Yeah. 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:41.480 Because it was probably generally pretty good for him, but not that whole can, right? 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:42.480 Yeah. 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:43.480 Wow. 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:44.480 Dr. Ray Peat is with us. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.960 If you have a question, comment, patrick@oneradionetwork.com. 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.240 This is kind of an interesting one from Dennis. 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:58.000 He said, "I've just heard so much about this classic quote-unquote autoimmune issue. 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:06.840 Could Dr. Peat give us his theory on this autoimmune problem that people keep talking 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.200 about?" 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:18.840 For a long time, people noticed that women have far more autoimmune problems than men. 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:29.680 We know about five times the incidence of thyroid disease and there's a very close connection. 00:13:29.680 --> 00:13:33.280 Estrogen sensitizes your immune system. 00:13:33.280 --> 00:13:36.960 It acts on your brain and your glucose supply. 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:45.760 For example, it activates insulin secretion, but it shifts your metabolism away from glucose 00:13:45.760 --> 00:13:55.920 towards fat oxidation and that makes you less able to oxidize glucose, turning it to carbon 00:13:55.920 --> 00:13:58.240 dioxide. 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:04.400 In the absence of the high production of carbon dioxide, you produce lactic acid. 00:14:04.400 --> 00:14:17.320 Lactic acid promotes inflammation and starting with the fact that estrogen slows liver function 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:29.240 by reducing the thyroid hormone, the slowed liver production shifts you into that lactate-favoring 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:39.680 metabolism away from carbon dioxide and lactate causes inflammation of everything. 00:14:39.680 --> 00:14:47.000 Autoimmune thyroid disease is just sort of the tip of the iceberg. 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:53.320 Once the estrogen slows your thyroid down and starts inflammation there, then all of 00:14:53.320 --> 00:15:02.360 your other tissues are susceptible to chronic inflammation, ultimately leading to calcification 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:08.640 or fibrosis, excess collagen production. 00:15:08.640 --> 00:15:15.960 All this is cascading starting from high estrogen levels? 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:26.400 In a normal cycle of two or three days, there's a surge of estrogen around ovulation. 00:15:26.400 --> 00:15:36.840 Then if they're healthy, well-fed, the ovary shifts strongly to progesterone production. 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:43.440 The diagrams in medical books often show estrogen and progesterone on the same chart and they 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:45.480 use a different scale. 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:50.640 The production of progesterone is about a thousand times greater than production of 00:15:50.640 --> 00:15:59.600 estrogen in a healthy person, but they show them on the same graph misleadingly. 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:09.000 This little moment of dominant estrogen should be suppressed by a massive pouring out of 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:13.040 progesterone for the rest of the month. 00:16:13.040 --> 00:16:26.680 If anything interferes, like if they eat too much vegetable oil or too much starchy vegetables, 00:16:26.680 --> 00:16:39.040 things that are hard to digest, their energy level decreases so that they don't produce 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:44.760 the normal amount of progesterone, it starts with a premenstrual syndrome where they don't 00:16:44.760 --> 00:16:59.280 have the energy and sense of well-being of the progesterone-controlled condition. 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:06.360 In the absence of progesterone, everything tends to shift in an inefficient direction 00:17:06.360 --> 00:17:16.000 towards oxidation of fat rather than of glucose, and that takes a lot more oxygen. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:23.760 Every carbon requires two oxygens if it's fat and only one oxygen if it's carbohydrate, 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:26.880 which already comes with one oxygen. 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:34.720 So you get a double supply of carbon dioxide in effect when you're using sugar as a fuel. 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:44.040 The carbon dioxide has a stabilizing protective effect that suppresses inflammation and turns 00:17:44.040 --> 00:17:46.680 off lactate production. 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:47.840 Wow. 00:17:47.840 --> 00:17:57.400 So a lot of ladies could have a hard time going through their periods, and if they really 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:03.700 could be eating some foods that are causing the things to be worse feeling, and if they 00:18:03.700 --> 00:18:07.560 maybe change their diet, if they could figure it out, they could feel better during this 00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:08.560 time. 00:18:08.560 --> 00:18:10.560 Is that what I heard you say? 00:18:10.560 --> 00:18:11.560 Yeah. 00:18:11.560 --> 00:18:19.880 In the short run, eating a lot of carbohydrate will make them feel better because it'll provide 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.560 lots of glucose. 00:18:22.560 --> 00:18:28.760 Eating rice and bread and vegetables, for example, in the short run can make a person 00:18:28.760 --> 00:18:30.920 feel euphoric. 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:39.840 But at some point, their liver needs a good supply of protein to keep working. 00:18:39.840 --> 00:18:49.840 Women who have been on a diet for a long time, I've seen women eating 15 or 20 grams of protein 00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:59.640 a day where an army study found that even average or small women to work efficiently 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:04.680 even at office work needed 100 grams of protein a day. 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:14.720 And women often are told that 35 grams a day is fine, but all of the really competent studies 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:23.800 show that 85 to 100 or more grams per day are needed for the liver to function well, 00:19:23.800 --> 00:19:27.200 for the brain to work properly. 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:34.320 So just a protein deficiency makes the liver underproduce. 00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:45.560 In the 1940s, some people did studies on the prisoners, war prisoners who were starved. 00:19:45.560 --> 00:19:52.320 They noticed that when they were let out of the prison camps and given some good food 00:19:52.320 --> 00:20:00.720 or at least more food, the men fairly often grew breasts in the first year after getting 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.720 out of prison. 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:06.920 And they found that that was because their liver had been damaged from the prolonged 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.920 protein and vitamin deficiency. 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:21.240 And the liver normally destroys or it causes excretion of 100% of the estrogen reaching 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.360 it. 00:20:22.360 --> 00:20:30.160 And so if you starve the liver for the B vitamins or protein in particular, the estrogen accumulates 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:37.480 so a man will grow breasts just from a prolonged nutrient deficiency. 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:48.520 And that happens in women and that's a basic cause of premenstrual syndrome. 00:20:48.520 --> 00:21:03.400 And the misinterpretation of what happens premenstrually, the estrogen industry starting 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:11.720 in the 1940s when they had a product to sell, they convinced the government first of all 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:22.720 and the public that these PMS problems and menopausal problems were the result of deficiency 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:24.840 of estrogen rather than an excess. 00:21:24.840 --> 00:21:33.640 At the very same time, the researchers were showing exactly how the liver keeps estrogen 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.080 under control when your diet is good. 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:41.440 But the estrogen industry totally reversed that situation. 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:51.760 They even sold estrogen to prevent miscarriage all through the late 40s and 50s. 00:21:51.760 --> 00:21:57.800 Doctors at Harvard were convincing doctors throughout the country to prescribe estrogen 00:21:57.800 --> 00:21:59.520 to pregnant women. 00:21:59.520 --> 00:22:08.120 That created the DES syndrome, cancer in the next generation. 00:22:08.120 --> 00:22:17.280 The babies who were exposed in utero to that estrogen supposedly to prevent miscarriage, 00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:22.680 they developed estrogen problems later in life. 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:27.360 And wasn't that whole syndrome, wasn't it blamed on some drug or something? 00:22:27.360 --> 00:22:31.960 Yeah, diethylstilbestrol, synthetic estrogen. 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:35.520 Oh, so that was the cause. 00:22:35.520 --> 00:22:46.080 Yeah, in the 1930s, my professor for example, Sodervall, was a student of one of the people 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:52.920 who showed very early that estrogen causes miscarriage. 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:58.320 My professor gave animals graded doses. 00:22:58.320 --> 00:23:01.640 One animal would get a small dose, another a bigger dose. 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:08.920 He showed that the number of miscarriages exactly corresponded to the dose of estrogen 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:10.240 they were getting. 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:20.080 So estrogen as a contraceptive or abortion producer was defined before 1940, but it was 00:23:20.080 --> 00:23:27.620 1941 and '42 when the estrogen industry started promoting it to prevent miscarriage exactly 00:23:27.620 --> 00:23:32.440 180 degrees opposite of what it does. 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:41.680 And so that has created more than 50 years of total confusion about what estrogen does. 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:48.160 For 50 years, they prescribed estrogen to men with prostate cancer. 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:56.640 It turns out that it is a major cause of prostate cancer, but it was given to men to treat their 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:09.560 prostate cancer and it would cause death from asthma, blood clotting, seizures, accelerated 00:24:09.560 --> 00:24:14.920 cancer in other organs and so on. 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:21.520 In fact, if you look at a man's testosterone, the high testosterone men in middle and old 00:24:21.520 --> 00:24:25.800 age are relatively free of prostate cancer. 00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:35.120 The ones who develop prostate cancer are the ones with lower testosterone and more effective 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:36.120 of the estrogen. 00:24:36.120 --> 00:24:38.120 Dr. Rehbert: That is fascinating. 00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:43.080 Dr. Ray Peat, I'm going to do a little break here, but before that, on the protein, you 00:24:43.080 --> 00:24:46.960 talked about the ladies and the protein, the lack of. 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:54.000 Does it matter to balance this out if they did animal protein or other forms of protein 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:58.680 like rice protein or whey protein or some of vegetable protein? 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:03.640 Do you think that matters in what you're talking about the protein in the ladies and the PMS? 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:10.840 Dr. Peat Yeah, it does, but I'm not sure how to rank 00:25:10.840 --> 00:25:12.360 those different proteins. 00:25:12.360 --> 00:25:25.400 Gelatin is one protein that is very safe because it lacks the three amino acids which can be 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:31.560 very toxic if you're eating more than is needed. 00:25:31.560 --> 00:25:42.320 They happen to be used for growth, so they're needed until you're about 20 or 25 years old. 00:25:42.320 --> 00:25:47.440 They're used for expanding the body tissues. 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:56.520 After that, they're just needed for replacing skin and the cells that are turning over rapidly 00:25:56.520 --> 00:26:07.520 need cysteine, methionine, and tryptophan, but if you eat the young person's requirement 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:17.160 of those amino acids when you're 40 or 50, they tend to promote overgrowth, promoting 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:24.240 inflammation, excite a toxicity of the nerves, and promote tumor growth. 00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:30.000 So they're associated with shortening the lifespan. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:37.960 Gelatin lacks those, so it's a very safe protein that can be added to those other proteins 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.280 to balance it out and give you a mature person's protein requirement. 00:26:42.280 --> 00:26:45.920 Dr. Nelson Oh, you mean like the Great Lakes gelatin or 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:46.920 that kind of product? 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.840 Dr. Peat Yeah, that's a good one that I've used a 00:26:49.840 --> 00:26:50.840 lot. 00:26:50.840 --> 00:26:56.480 Dr. Nelson Okay, so they don't have the three that we 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:57.480 don't need? 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:07.480 Dr. Peat Yeah, gelatin is used as basically the stiffening 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:14.720 glue that holds our other cells together, and it tends to increase with age. 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:23.240 You won't increase your rate of collagen production by eating gelatin. 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:33.360 It just serves to prevent the unnecessary stimulation of tissue growth. 00:27:33.360 --> 00:27:39.520 A lot of people are selling gelatin, calling it collagen. 00:27:39.520 --> 00:27:44.080 Collagen is the raw form in your tissues. 00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:54.080 To buy actual collagen costs something like $10 a gram, because it can't be purified in 00:27:54.080 --> 00:28:00.280 a sterile form without great lab processing. 00:28:00.280 --> 00:28:01.280 Dr. Nelson I see. 00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:06.360 So if you're going to really want collagen, you should just get collagen from, I don't 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:10.080 know, pig's feet and all the cam hocks and stuff like that, huh? 00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:11.080 Chicken? 00:28:11.080 --> 00:28:12.080 Dr. Peat Yeah, that's natural. 00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:15.040 Wait, wait a minute. 00:28:15.040 --> 00:28:23.280 Chicken backs and wings and feet, for example, are the traditional ways to, when a person 00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:30.080 is sick, they found that giving them gelatinous chicken soup is therapeutic. 00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:33.480 Dr. Nelson And so one of the reasons is the collagen and 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:38.080 all the good things, the amino acids and things that they have? 00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:43.160 Dr. Peat Yeah, and the absence of those excitatory 00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.000 amino acids is part of its benefit. 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.200 Dr. Nelson And the excitatory again are what, glycine? 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:53.200 Dr. Peat No, glycine is the quieting. 00:28:53.200 --> 00:29:00.680 It can be used in the brain as part of excitation, but its normal function, and proline, these 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:07.800 are the two protective energy-providing and stabilizing amino acids. 00:29:07.800 --> 00:29:14.560 The ones that can be excitotoxic are tryptophan, cysteine, and methionine. 00:29:14.560 --> 00:29:19.400 Dr. Nelson And if we just eat animal products, we're 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:21.120 getting those in there, Dr. Peat, right? 00:29:21.120 --> 00:29:22.640 They're already in there in the meats? 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:23.640 Dr. Peat Yeah. 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:24.840 Dr. Nelson Okay. 00:29:24.840 --> 00:29:31.240 But so if you take extra stuff, you don't want to take the ones that have those in there 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.400 because you can get kind of too wound up? 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.880 Dr. Peat Yeah. 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:49.360 The different vegetable proteins vary quite a bit, so you could combine some of them with 00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:51.160 gelatin to get an optimal balance. 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:52.160 Dr. Nelson Oh, I see. 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.280 You can add a little gelatin in there too. 00:29:54.280 --> 00:29:55.280 Cool. 00:29:55.280 --> 00:29:56.280 Stay right there. 00:29:56.280 --> 00:29:57.640 Dr. Ray Peat is with us. 00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.640 Patrick Timpani. 00:29:58.640 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00:33:37.960 Rebounder or rebounder, and click and order, OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.440 Ray Peat has come back a few times, and you like him. 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:48.160 We appreciate Dr. Peat coming on from time to time and chatting with us. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.160 It's fun to talk to you. 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:50.160 I love all the research. 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.240 This is a great question from Jeremy. 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.160 I just love eggs. 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.040 I might eat maybe three, four a day. 00:33:59.040 --> 00:34:00.040 Is it okay? 00:34:00.040 --> 00:34:02.000 I mean, are these great food? 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.200 What does Dr. Peat think? 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.200 All right. 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.760 Well, they used to say it was a perfect food. 00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.760 Remember the commercials? 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:16.120 Yeah, they used to be the perfect food. 00:34:16.120 --> 00:34:27.680 I've seen the cholesterol and polyunsaturated fatty acid content analyzed in the 30s, the 00:34:27.680 --> 00:34:37.200 50s, the 70s, and then recently there has been a constant decrease in cholesterol content 00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:41.960 and a constant increase in polyunsaturated fat content. 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:42.960 Because of the feed? 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:43.960 The feed? 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:53.200 Yeah, they're feeding them so efficiently in the energy sense. 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:59.920 In the pork industry in the 40s, they found that the highly polyunsaturated fats made 00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:06.120 the pig gain fat faster with less food. 00:35:06.120 --> 00:35:13.680 And so, they shifted from the higher protein and starch foods to the higher polyunsaturated 00:35:13.680 --> 00:35:15.560 fats. 00:35:15.560 --> 00:35:22.680 Saturated fats also wasted energy so the pigs stayed lean. 00:35:22.680 --> 00:35:31.320 That spread over to the other branches of agriculture and chicken feed has become more 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:32.320 and more polyunsaturated. 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:33.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:39.360 So, let's say though a lot of our listeners have access to really good eggs, the real 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.400 good yard eggs and even feed that doesn't have soy and it's all organic at the farmers' 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:46.400 markets. 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.640 Now, if you're getting a really good egg like that, is it a perfect food then? 00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:57.960 Yeah, when I'm in Mexico and know where the eggs come from, the chickens get tortillas 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:07.040 and vegetables and lots of bugs and so on, then I'll eat four or five eggs a day and 00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:10.200 it's okay to eat more. 00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:17.560 One person was in the news, he's eaten a dozen eggs a day for 40 years or something like 00:36:17.560 --> 00:36:18.560 that. 00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:20.760 No kidding, yeah, yeah. 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:29.400 The cholesterol myth was created by the seed oil industry, especially cottonseed people 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:35.160 wanted to sell their product on the basis that it lowered cholesterol and things that 00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:41.080 lower cholesterol generally cause cancer and degenerative disease. 00:36:41.080 --> 00:36:51.360 But in an experiment many years ago, medical students were fed, I think it was 22 eggs 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:56.960 was the point at which they could show an increase in their serum cholesterol. 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:04.560 At 15 eggs a day, there was no increase because their natural liver production of cholesterol 00:37:04.560 --> 00:37:12.680 was inhibited when they were eating it as if the body recognizes that it doesn't have 00:37:12.680 --> 00:37:18.280 to make cholesterol when it's getting the amount in 15 eggs. 00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:25.240 The studies that showed the increase of serum cholesterol from eggs, the first ones were 00:37:25.240 --> 00:37:31.040 done in diabetic, hospitalized, very sick patients. 00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:37.720 But when you look at healthy young people, you need lots and lots of eggs with no change 00:37:37.720 --> 00:37:39.960 in your blood cholesterol level. 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.240 There was a fellow that used to promote a kind of a live food diet, Agnes von der Planets, 00:37:45.240 --> 00:37:49.400 and he claimed that he worked with people over the years that they really had bad stomach 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:54.880 problems that he would just have them do like a dozen raw eggs a day for a week and it usually 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.080 straightened things out. 00:37:56.080 --> 00:37:57.080 It's pretty strange. 00:37:57.080 --> 00:37:58.880 Have you ever heard about that? 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:07.160 Yeah, I've seen several people, one a year and a half old kid, the second one was a man 00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:08.760 about 70 years old. 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:17.600 Both of them had a diagnosis of leukemia and somewhere I had heard about the effect of 00:38:17.600 --> 00:38:23.040 egg on the leukemia virus or something related to leukemia. 00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:30.680 So I suggested an eggnog, sort of an Orange Julius formula, egg, milk, sugar, orange juice 00:38:30.680 --> 00:38:32.720 or vanilla. 00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:43.480 And both of these first two people who tried it had a recovery, no more leukemia symptoms. 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:50.200 So over the years, I've suggested that several times for lymphoma and leukemia in particular, 00:38:50.200 --> 00:39:00.000 but in general, it's just you don't have to make it your exclusive diet, but having an 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.080 Orange Julius once in a while is very good for your health. 00:39:04.080 --> 00:39:05.080 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:05.080 --> 00:39:09.240 A big difference between raw or cooking the eggs, do we think? 00:39:09.240 --> 00:39:16.640 Oh, yeah, there have been experiments that show that something in the raw egg yolk is 00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:24.880 germicidal and helps to disinfect the intestine, which somewhat is decreased by cooking it, 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:29.800 but still you get almost all the benefit from a cooked egg. 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:37.880 But it's better to cook it as little as possible so that the yolk is still runny because the 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:45.140 presence of the polyunsaturated fat makes it very easily oxidized and damaged by heat. 00:39:45.140 --> 00:39:50.720 You mentioned pigs and when we speak about these, let's say we're talking about really 00:39:50.720 --> 00:39:55.960 well tended, well fed, well cared for pigs and not just commercial, right? 00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:56.960 Big difference. 00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:03.440 So if we can get this kind of a product, any issues in your mind with pork? 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:12.680 Yeah, but for about 50 years, the Department of Agriculture called lard a saturated fat. 00:40:12.680 --> 00:40:21.120 They hadn't checked their figures since the 1930s, but a more recent study showed that 00:40:21.120 --> 00:40:29.440 it's, I think it was 32 or 33% polyunsaturated fats in lard. 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:36.360 So it ranks up with the worst of the liquid oils for oxidizability. 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:44.280 When I was a kid, grocery stores would have blocks of lard sitting out at room temperature 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.920 just like a lump of butter. 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:54.960 But recently I saw lard in a plastic bag looking like a liquid fat. 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:55.960 Oh boy. 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.800 And what was that made out of, that stuff? 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.240 That shows the change of diet on the fat. 00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:15.200 When the source of energy is mostly starch and protein, the animal turns it into mostly 00:41:15.200 --> 00:41:16.200 saturated fat. 00:41:16.200 --> 00:41:17.200 Oh, real good stuff. 00:41:17.200 --> 00:41:18.200 It's good stuff. 00:41:18.200 --> 00:41:23.560 Yeah, solid lard, which stimulates your metabolism rather than poisoning it. 00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:27.320 I see, I see. 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:36.440 If you are eating a vegetable fat, if it grows in the tropics, it'll be more saturated because 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:42.400 the temperature of the organism governs the saturation of the fats that it makes. 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:50.280 So chocolate, for example, cocoa butter grown in the tropics is highly saturated. 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:59.680 Liquid oil is highly saturated because the polyunsaturated fats are extremely unstable 00:41:59.680 --> 00:42:05.280 at 90 degrees or 100 degrees Fahrenheit, which is our body temperature. 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:12.480 So the plants that produce those fats would die if they were producing polyunsaturated 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:18.920 fats because they would simply die of oxygen reaction poisoning. 00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:20.440 Oh wow. 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.680 Patrick Timpone, Ray Peat, it's April 29, 2019. 00:42:24.680 --> 00:42:25.680 Here's an email. 00:42:25.680 --> 00:42:30.360 Can Mr. Peat recommend any kind of foods or supplements that could help someone recovering 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.400 from long-term inflammatory bowel disease, cause hair loss, sharp drop in lean body mass, 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:46.280 skin that doesn't seem to heal, and for minor cuts, scrapes, and bruises? 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:57.000 The avoiding the things that produce inflammation and those are the basic thing that amplifies 00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:09.560 and sustains inflammation are the polyunsaturated fats and the bacteria that feed on indigestible 00:43:09.560 --> 00:43:10.820 plant matter. 00:43:10.820 --> 00:43:19.400 We don't have enzymes to break down cellulose and lignin and the woody fibers in plants. 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:29.880 And so if starches and fats are associated with those indigestible polysaccharides, then 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:38.040 they will be protected against our digestive system and feed bacteria in the lower intestine 00:43:38.040 --> 00:43:45.320 and cause the absorption of bacterial toxins, endotoxin and others. 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:56.080 And so for example, lettuce, if you eat it in a salad, it's going to be an ideal bacteria 00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:57.080 food. 00:43:57.080 --> 00:44:04.320 So if you have a tough intestine, you can stand the growth of the bacteria, but if you're 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:13.240 at all prone to inflammation, then lettuce or other undercooked vegetables are going 00:44:13.240 --> 00:44:17.720 to feed the bacteria that produce bowel inflammation. 00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:28.560 And so overcooked vegetables are actually more nutritious than raw or partly cooked 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:29.560 vegetables. 00:44:29.560 --> 00:44:38.280 An experiment with rats showed that even rats can't live on raw vegetables as an exclusive 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:45.280 diet, but they thrived on canned vegetables that are overcooked. 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:52.440 So this could be the reason why some people just don't do that well on raw foods. 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:53.560 Yeah. 00:44:53.560 --> 00:45:06.000 And especially if you have colitis, a milk and egg diet, for example, is often therapeutic 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.000 for colitis. 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.000 Very interesting. 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:16.840 Here's a fellow, "Mom recently underwent mastectomy to remove a lump and they prescribed 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.120 an anti-estrogen medication. 00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:21.400 It caused a severe reaction. 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:26.360 A lot of muscle pain, bone pain, nausea, dizziness." 00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:32.240 Can Mr. Peek give his opinion of what could be going on here with mom? 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:39.460 The anti-estrogen drugs have many effects other than suppressing estrogen. 00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:47.180 You can powerfully decrease estrogen production, inhibiting aromatase. 00:45:47.180 --> 00:45:59.440 If you thoroughly cut out polyunsaturated fats and use aspirin and other natural substances 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:06.880 are the things that block the production of estrogen. 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:18.020 Aspirin is just one of the natural substances blocking aromatase and it's very safe to use 00:46:18.020 --> 00:46:20.340 in breast cancer. 00:46:20.340 --> 00:46:23.460 Progesterone is another. 00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:29.620 There are several plant-derived substances that are inhibitors of aromatase, but cutting 00:46:29.620 --> 00:46:39.380 out the polyunsaturated fats, they produce prostaglandins and the prostaglandins are 00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:46.500 the main force activating aromatase and estrogen production. 00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:48.800 Excellent. 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.740 This is a fellow in Switzerland. 00:46:52.740 --> 00:46:59.500 His father had cancer in the oral tissues. 00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:06.300 Now he's free from cancer, but the x-rays have caused bone necrosis in his jaw. 00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:09.300 Anything that he could do from this x-ray damage? 00:47:09.300 --> 00:47:13.260 Can x-ray damage actually cause bone necrosis? 00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.020 Yeah. 00:47:15.020 --> 00:47:27.020 About 30 or 40 years ago, I noticed that I was getting a circle of white whiskers and 00:47:27.020 --> 00:47:38.540 I realized that that circle represented where the x-ray gun had been used to make dental 00:47:38.540 --> 00:47:39.540 x-rays. 00:47:39.540 --> 00:47:40.540 Wow. 00:47:41.540 --> 00:47:49.660 Right after that, each time I had dental x-rays, I would get leukoplasia on the inside 00:47:49.660 --> 00:47:55.380 of my cheek that would swell up and get bitten accidentally. 00:47:55.380 --> 00:48:03.980 That would clear up when I eventually got enough vitamin A, but the x-ray destroys first 00:48:03.980 --> 00:48:13.980 the vitamin A and E and vitamin B2, the things that are light sensitive are the first to 00:48:13.980 --> 00:48:22.060 be destroyed by even low dose x-ray or ultraviolet light. 00:48:22.060 --> 00:48:29.020 These essential growth factors, regulatory factors, are destroyed in the bone because 00:48:29.020 --> 00:48:39.380 the x-ray penetrates pretty well even into the bone. 00:48:39.380 --> 00:48:45.740 Getting your essential nutrients up would be the first defense. 00:48:45.740 --> 00:48:54.860 Vitamin D and calcium are the first anti-inflammatory and restorative things, especially for the 00:48:54.860 --> 00:49:03.780 bone and keeping the cortisol and prolactin down. 00:49:03.780 --> 00:49:12.980 Besides the vitamin D and calcium effect, which tend to lower prolactin and cortisol, 00:49:12.980 --> 00:49:20.740 having your energy coming from carbohydrates rather than fats is protective. 00:49:20.740 --> 00:49:28.900 Again, the aspirin effect keeps the prostaglandin production down. 00:49:28.900 --> 00:49:36.420 An anti-inflammatory program protects against bone loss as well as cancer. 00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:37.420 Excellent. 00:49:37.420 --> 00:49:44.300 I know that Dr. Peat considers estrogen kind of pro-aging. 00:49:44.300 --> 00:49:49.340 If high testosterone, for example, gives a man attractive traits like strong, muscular, 00:49:49.340 --> 00:49:55.420 deep voice, and courage and all of that, then high estrogen woman is usually the one with 00:49:55.420 --> 00:49:59.380 attractive broad hips, large breasts, and narrow waist. 00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:05.180 Being an artist, what does Dr. Peat think about estrogen as a factor in female physical attractiveness? 00:50:05.180 --> 00:50:08.820 That's an interesting question. 00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:20.900 It does increase the fat on the thighs and hips when everything else is in good balance, 00:50:20.900 --> 00:50:25.540 and it's one of the essential things for breast growth. 00:50:25.540 --> 00:50:35.660 But if it comes at the wrong time and in the wrong place, it's also a masculinizing factor. 00:50:35.660 --> 00:50:44.340 It will shift the balance in an embryo towards male development rather than female. 00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:53.580 It's progesterone which protects the female against the masculinizing effects of estrogen. 00:50:53.580 --> 00:51:03.980 You have to have a generous supply of progesterone to keep down the cortisol, which is promoted 00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:08.620 by estrogen. 00:51:08.620 --> 00:51:15.100 If you give an animal a large dose of estrogen, the first thing you're likely to see is bleeding 00:51:15.100 --> 00:51:22.020 adrenal glands because they're so overstimulated trying to make more cortisol to balance the 00:51:22.020 --> 00:51:27.780 estrogen that it will destroy the adrenals if the estrogen is very high. 00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:41.620 But short of that, it raises your cortisol and related stress hormones, and the circulating 00:51:41.620 --> 00:51:46.100 free fatty acids are increased by estrogen. 00:51:46.100 --> 00:51:53.380 So when the estrogen isn't blocked by progesterone, you get these stress syndromes, including 00:51:53.380 --> 00:51:54.380 belly fat. 00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:57.460 Dr. Ray Peat's with us. 00:51:57.460 --> 00:51:59.140 Here's an interesting question. 00:51:59.140 --> 00:52:06.420 I have a 10-year-old daughter, very close to entering puberty, poor appetite, skinny, 00:52:06.420 --> 00:52:12.260 has some dental issues, tendency to be tired and cold, very emotionally sensitive for any 00:52:12.260 --> 00:52:15.140 drama, watching movies. 00:52:15.140 --> 00:52:20.020 Apart from general love and support, could Dr. Peat offer any kind of ideas, could be 00:52:20.020 --> 00:52:25.780 a good strategy to help to get her going? 00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:29.740 And should we have our thyroid or steroid hormones measured? 00:52:29.740 --> 00:52:36.220 Yeah, it's good to check her temperature and pulse rate and see how they compare with 00:52:36.220 --> 00:52:37.940 kids of that age. 00:52:37.940 --> 00:52:46.500 But as the estrogen starts rising after the age of six, especially nine, 10, and 11, the 00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:51.820 estrogen is blocking the thyroid gland. 00:52:51.820 --> 00:52:59.460 In teenage girls, you often see a puffiness at the bottom of the neck, which indicates 00:52:59.460 --> 00:53:07.260 that the thyroid gland is producing something, but it isn't secreting the active hormone. 00:53:07.260 --> 00:53:11.460 So the gland enlarges under the influence of estrogen. 00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:21.020 And girls often have a crease above and below where the thyroid is because of that puffing 00:53:21.020 --> 00:53:22.020 effect. 00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:29.140 Boys of the same age don't have creases in those areas because it's very common for the 00:53:29.140 --> 00:53:36.340 pubescent girl to have the bulging thyroid gland because the gland is trying to produce 00:53:36.340 --> 00:53:41.500 the hormone, but it isn't able to release it into the bloodstream. 00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:52.780 And that will be detectable in the blood if the doctor knows how to recognize the indicators. 00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:59.340 Vitamin D and calcium work closely with the thyroid and sugar metabolism. 00:53:59.340 --> 00:54:09.620 It's been pretty much ignored that vitamin D is connected to energy and sugar metabolism, 00:54:09.620 --> 00:54:18.300 but your thyroid can't work properly if you're low in vitamin D and calcium. 00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:26.220 And so getting lots of milk and cheese and eggs is important. 00:54:26.220 --> 00:54:33.820 But a lot of the high phosphate foods like nuts, beans, and meats, a moderate amount 00:54:33.820 --> 00:54:44.140 of those, but plenty of leafy vegetables, well-cooked cheese, eggs, and milk, and probably 00:54:44.140 --> 00:54:51.420 a supplement of vitamin D unless you're able to get hours of sunlight on a lot of your 00:54:51.420 --> 00:54:52.420 skin every day. 00:54:52.420 --> 00:54:53.420 Those are some good ideas. 00:54:53.420 --> 00:55:02.300 On the 29th of April, I would like to know Dr. Peat's opinion on using the pure pine 00:55:02.300 --> 00:55:05.300 gum spirits or turpentine internally. 00:55:05.300 --> 00:55:11.820 Does he have any opinion about the good, bad, or the ugly with using that? 00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:21.740 I've known lots of people who used it, and it isn't as dangerous as a lot of doctors 00:55:21.740 --> 00:55:30.060 will lead you to believe, but you do have to be careful with it because it can in itself 00:55:30.060 --> 00:55:32.380 be irritating. 00:55:32.380 --> 00:55:41.460 I always painted with it, enjoyed the smell of it, and felt it was very harmless, maybe 00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:49.940 beneficial, but the research has been biased against it by the funding from the pharmaceutical 00:55:49.940 --> 00:55:54.140 industry that has something fancier to sell. 00:55:54.140 --> 00:55:55.620 Here's an email. 00:55:55.620 --> 00:56:01.220 Is it okay to take bioidentical hormones as long as they are balanced if one has breast 00:56:01.220 --> 00:56:06.900 cancer, ER plus PRH is HER2 plus? 00:56:06.900 --> 00:56:11.980 I don't know what that means. 00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:15.820 They test for the receptors. 00:56:15.820 --> 00:56:16.820 The ER plus. 00:56:16.820 --> 00:56:28.580 Yeah, estrogen receptor positive, but the receptors just mean that the cell is able 00:56:28.580 --> 00:56:36.140 to produce and respond to hormones, and when it lacks those receptors, it's usually the 00:56:36.140 --> 00:56:45.300 most dangerous type of cancer, but the presence of those receptors is almost always misinterpreted 00:56:45.300 --> 00:56:47.220 by doctors. 00:56:47.220 --> 00:56:57.540 The presence of estrogen, instead of depending on the ovaries as the source, once you get 00:56:57.540 --> 00:57:06.220 an irritation, the breast itself begins producing estrogen internally, and what you need to 00:57:06.220 --> 00:57:15.220 do is first find a way to reduce that by reducing the polyunsaturated fats and prostaglandins 00:57:15.220 --> 00:57:21.220 inhibiting it with things such as aspirin. 00:57:21.220 --> 00:57:34.820 The function of progesterone is on all of the cells where they have a progesterone receptor, 00:57:34.820 --> 00:57:44.900 progesterone inhibits cell division and knocks out the estrogen receptor and can inhibit 00:57:44.900 --> 00:57:48.980 the aromatase that produces estrogen. 00:57:48.980 --> 00:57:55.900 So where they tell you to avoid progesterone because it has the receptors for it, the receptor 00:57:55.900 --> 00:58:07.100 means it's able to be inhibited by progesterone, but bioidentical estrogen is just as harmful 00:58:07.100 --> 00:58:09.780 as a synthetic estrogen. 00:58:09.780 --> 00:58:17.540 They're all doing the same thing, activating the cell, shifting the metabolism away from 00:58:17.540 --> 00:58:28.620 glucose towards fat and towards the inflammatory intrinsic production of estrogen, so it becomes 00:58:28.620 --> 00:58:29.620 self-amplifying. 00:58:29.620 --> 00:58:35.180 Dr. Ray Peat, Patrick Timpone, OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:58:35.180 --> 00:58:37.060 Good morning. 00:58:37.060 --> 00:58:38.060 Great stuff. 00:58:38.060 --> 00:58:43.700 What would Dr. Peat recommend for rheumatoid arthritis in both knees and wrists? 00:58:43.700 --> 00:58:49.500 I do not eat junk food, lots of vegetables, some fruits, bone broths, organic, everything 00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:50.500 organic, grass-fed. 00:58:50.500 --> 00:58:51.940 I do some milk. 00:58:51.940 --> 00:58:58.380 I do like cottage cheese, Nancy's brand organic, and butter, but just have these kind of things 00:58:58.380 --> 00:59:02.380 going on in the knees. 00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:06.940 With cottage cheese, you want to make sure it doesn't have added lactic acid because 00:59:06.940 --> 00:59:11.860 bacterial lactic acid is pro-inflammatory. 00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:16.980 Cottage cheese is very good if it doesn't contain added things. 00:59:16.980 --> 00:59:24.500 It'll say lactic acid right on the label if you don't want that. 00:59:24.500 --> 00:59:33.980 In general, you want the anti-inflammatory foods, but when you say bone broth, the collagen, 00:59:33.980 --> 00:59:46.620 which is the main benefit of good bone broth, it is around the knobby end bones, the joints, 00:59:46.620 --> 00:59:48.460 more than the long bones. 00:59:48.460 --> 00:59:54.900 The long bone contains marrow, which is very rich in iron, and you don't want an excess 00:59:54.900 --> 00:59:59.700 of iron when you have arthritis. 00:59:59.700 --> 01:00:10.740 I ran across a woman who was convinced that her doctor knew what he was doing in prescribing 01:00:10.740 --> 01:00:17.180 estrogen for her rheumatoid arthritis, but when I talked to her, she couldn't get off 01:00:17.180 --> 01:00:19.500 the couch. 01:00:19.500 --> 01:00:26.620 Her husband helped her from the bed to the couch, but I talked to her two or three times 01:00:26.620 --> 01:00:37.260 for an hour explaining what estrogen does to the inflammatory systems, and she was convinced 01:00:37.260 --> 01:00:43.100 that her doctor knew that estrogen should be helping. 01:00:43.100 --> 01:00:52.340 But when she finally tried giving up her estrogen pills, immediately she recovered from her 01:00:52.340 --> 01:00:54.620 rheumatoid arthritis. 01:00:54.620 --> 01:00:59.500 A woman was visiting Eugene from Sweden. 01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:06.060 She had had, I think it was three joint replacements and was going to have all of her other main 01:01:06.060 --> 01:01:12.820 joints replaced with ball and socket mechanisms. 01:01:12.820 --> 01:01:17.780 She gave her some progesterone. 01:01:17.780 --> 01:01:28.700 She oiled herself all over with progesterone, and she immediately had no more symptoms of 01:01:28.700 --> 01:01:29.940 rheumatoid arthritis. 01:01:29.940 --> 01:01:39.660 She spent her time in Eugene walking around, enjoying the parks, and said she was going 01:01:39.660 --> 01:01:46.340 to not have any more joints replaced. 01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:54.500 When you get the estrogen down and the progesterone up, whether you do it with diet or supplements, 01:01:54.500 --> 01:02:01.940 one of the reasons aspirin is helpful for rheumatoid arthritis is that it turns your 01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:07.260 estrogen production down and progesterone up. 01:02:07.260 --> 01:02:18.500 An Italian researcher named Cutolo has shown that estrogen is being produced in the arthritic 01:02:18.500 --> 01:02:23.620 joint, and that the problem is to reduce the estrogen, not to increase it. 01:02:23.620 --> 01:02:28.980 Then if you're doing bone broth for it, you said, "Get some of these, I think you can 01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:34.180 find pig joints and these knuckles and things like that, not necessarily the long bones 01:02:34.180 --> 01:02:37.860 where you get marrow and then too much iron, and that's bad for..." 01:02:37.860 --> 01:02:41.860 Yeah, the joint is full of tendons and ligaments. 01:02:41.860 --> 01:02:45.460 Yeah, that's what you want, all the gooey stuff in there. 01:02:45.460 --> 01:02:51.100 Dr. Ray P. Patrick Timpone, Dr. David Jebb will be here tomorrow, and we'll stick around 01:02:51.100 --> 01:02:55.980 for a few more minutes here and wrap up all these emails. 01:02:55.980 --> 01:02:57.780 Patrick at OneRadioNetwork.com. 01:02:57.780 --> 01:03:02.940 Previously, Peter from Rhode Island called and talked a bit about his experience with 01:03:02.940 --> 01:03:04.940 Living Streams probes. 01:03:04.940 --> 01:03:09.860 In general, what I've noticed is digestion so much better. 01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:15.380 I've actually lost weight in places where it's like around the middle a little bit where 01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:21.660 I've been trying for years to lose weight, and I don't know why. 01:03:21.660 --> 01:03:24.740 I could make up some good reasons. 01:03:24.740 --> 01:03:26.860 Maybe I'm digesting my food better. 01:03:26.860 --> 01:03:30.980 Maybe some of these probes are digesting the stuff that's there. 01:03:30.980 --> 01:03:35.100 I don't, you know, it's like, who knows, but it's working. 01:03:35.100 --> 01:03:36.100 Good for you. 01:03:36.100 --> 01:03:37.100 Good for you. 01:03:37.100 --> 01:03:38.260 Yeah, I think you're onto something. 01:03:38.260 --> 01:03:39.900 I mean, who knows? 01:03:39.900 --> 01:03:44.060 Maybe the buggies are eating some stuff that should not be there, and that's why you're 01:03:44.060 --> 01:03:45.660 losing some weight. 01:03:45.660 --> 01:03:47.340 Maybe you're digesting your food better. 01:03:47.340 --> 01:03:48.340 Maybe all of the above. 01:03:48.340 --> 01:03:51.900 Maybe you're getting more minerals, which makes everything work better. 01:03:51.900 --> 01:03:55.540 It could be all of the above, you know, and multiple choice quiz. 01:03:55.540 --> 01:03:56.860 Thanks for calling, Peter. 01:03:56.860 --> 01:04:02.020 This builds on the argument that when we get the gut biome more in balance, good things 01:04:02.020 --> 01:04:04.380 happen on all different levels. 01:04:04.380 --> 01:04:09.020 So yeah, a lot of good things can happen with these probiotics in there. 01:04:09.020 --> 01:04:11.700 And of course, the immune system is right there in the gut. 01:04:11.700 --> 01:04:14.260 There's a great variety of them. 01:04:14.260 --> 01:04:18.980 You can call Maryland for more information on what each one of them are kind of pointed 01:04:18.980 --> 01:04:23.700 towards, 360-912-2981. 01:04:23.700 --> 01:04:27.980 That number is 360-912-2981. 01:04:27.980 --> 01:04:31.660 Call me or email me, and I know a lot about the products. 01:04:31.660 --> 01:04:36.500 Living Streams Probiotics in our store, oneradionetwork.com. 01:04:36.500 --> 01:04:42.300 Years ago, I recall David Wolf suggesting that all foods, superfoods, actually just 01:04:42.300 --> 01:04:44.380 gives our body information. 01:04:44.380 --> 01:04:47.900 And this came out the last time we talked with Daniel Vitalis about colostrum. 01:04:47.900 --> 01:04:52.580 I imagine people being born with an unformatted immune system, and colostrum helps to format 01:04:52.580 --> 01:04:53.580 that. 01:04:53.580 --> 01:04:58.780 It helps to recognize viral and bacterial invaders early, and it also helps to restore 01:04:58.780 --> 01:05:03.460 and heal the lining of the gut that's damaged in so many people, and one of the sources 01:05:03.460 --> 01:05:06.340 of inflammation and low immunity. 01:05:06.340 --> 01:05:10.060 So it restores that gut lining at the same time that it educates the immune system on 01:05:10.060 --> 01:05:13.900 how to better fight off pathogens that get into our bodies. 01:05:13.900 --> 01:05:17.660 - And it's pretty cool too, I think, because moms can put it in the smoothies quite easily 01:05:17.660 --> 01:05:19.260 for the kids. 01:05:19.260 --> 01:05:21.460 And it's yummy, and they get some good stuff. 01:05:21.460 --> 01:05:24.460 - Yeah, it's really great to blend into smoothies. 01:05:24.460 --> 01:05:25.840 You can make chocolates with it. 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.580 You can put it into anything that you're cooking, and so it's easy to get into your kids and 01:05:29.580 --> 01:05:31.140 into other family members. 01:05:31.140 --> 01:05:35.020 It tastes great, and it's actually very versatile in the kitchen, so you can use it in place 01:05:35.020 --> 01:05:36.220 of a lot of other products. 01:05:36.220 --> 01:05:40.180 - Yes, and it's very tasty and fun and easy to use. 01:05:40.180 --> 01:05:44.340 Sometimes just late at night, you can take warm water with colostrum in there before 01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:48.500 bed, and hmm, it's a great product, a lot of benefits. 01:05:48.500 --> 01:05:51.740 - Click on any Surthrival link, colostrum1radionetwork.com. 01:05:51.740 --> 01:05:58.020 - Yeah, it's good, and you can get two kilo, one kilo, whatever you want there. 01:05:58.020 --> 01:06:02.940 And also, that's the place you get pine pollen and elk velvet antler, and the shaga and the 01:06:02.940 --> 01:06:05.020 reishi, all in my ring glass. 01:06:05.020 --> 01:06:07.340 Excellent website, Surthrival. 01:06:07.340 --> 01:06:11.900 Through our website, if you would, click away and see if they might have some products there 01:06:11.900 --> 01:06:13.340 that you'd like to play around with. 01:06:13.340 --> 01:06:23.460 - No, the source on One Radio Network. 01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:27.980 - You can learn more about Dr. Ray Peat through his website, it's rayPeat.com, and sign up 01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:29.860 for his newsletter. 01:06:29.860 --> 01:06:33.860 Lots and lots of stuff on his website, some cool articles, and he really kind of digs 01:06:33.860 --> 01:06:35.780 deep down in there. 01:06:35.780 --> 01:06:38.260 Patrick Timpone, April 29th. 01:06:38.260 --> 01:06:42.900 We appreciate Dr. Peat coming on from time to time, thank you. 01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:53.420 Dr. Peat, it's so cool that you connect volatile organic compounds to nanoparticles. 01:06:53.420 --> 01:06:56.540 Can you please explain more about this? 01:06:56.540 --> 01:07:01.540 I didn't know you did that, and when did you do that? 01:07:01.540 --> 01:07:09.820 - My most recent newsletter was about particles, especially nanoparticles, but larger particles 01:07:09.820 --> 01:07:11.780 are harmful too. 01:07:11.780 --> 01:07:15.220 They do different things in different ways. 01:07:15.220 --> 01:07:25.380 The nanoparticles happen to be more efficient at activating inflammation, but the larger 01:07:25.380 --> 01:07:34.740 particles, as much as 10 times the diameter of a red blood cell, can pass through the 01:07:34.740 --> 01:07:41.620 wall of the intestine into the blood vessels, and those particles can obstruct arterioles 01:07:41.620 --> 01:07:46.100 and kill a whole region of cells. 01:07:46.100 --> 01:07:52.420 So the plastic particles are getting into our food supply, all different sizes, from 01:07:52.420 --> 01:08:03.140 a hundredth as big as a bacterium to 10 times as big as a red blood cell, a great range 01:08:03.140 --> 01:08:09.540 of particle sizes all have their different toxic effects, and the larger particles in 01:08:09.540 --> 01:08:20.220 particular can be coated with these volatile organic, especially polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, 01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:22.660 which are carcinogenic in themselves. 01:08:22.660 --> 01:08:27.900 They tend to stick to the surface of some of these particles and get carried into the 01:08:27.900 --> 01:08:32.340 bloodstream by passing through the wall of the intestine. 01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:40.620 The process is called persortrum, and it's been observed for about almost 200 years, 01:08:40.620 --> 01:08:45.940 and over 100 years ago, the second major study was done. 01:08:45.940 --> 01:08:56.380 Then starting in the '60s, a German researcher has published many, many studies on it, and 01:08:56.380 --> 01:08:58.700 it's a very common process. 01:08:58.700 --> 01:09:07.180 It happens whenever you eat undercooked starch, for example, starch particles pass through 01:09:07.180 --> 01:09:19.100 into the bloodstream unless they're in the presence of enough food to energize the intestine 01:09:19.100 --> 01:09:23.820 cells to keep them from being leaky. 01:09:23.820 --> 01:09:31.500 The leaky intestine isn't just a matter of having holes between cells, but the individual 01:09:31.500 --> 01:09:39.420 cell is weak because it doesn't have enough energy to maintain its internal structure. 01:09:39.420 --> 01:09:55.100 It becomes slightly more tolerant of particles and fluids passing through unchanged. 01:09:55.100 --> 01:10:01.100 A particle will just press its way into the substance of a cell and pop out the other 01:10:01.100 --> 01:10:05.820 side into a blood vessel. 01:10:05.820 --> 01:10:18.100 That has been overlooked intentionally because a doctrine taught to all biologists, practically, 01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:30.420 that a cell has a barrier membrane and that it has to deliberately ingest a particle. 01:10:30.420 --> 01:10:40.820 The only barrier is that the cell is energized to maintain a water repellent effect. 01:10:40.820 --> 01:10:49.260 When it loses energy, it becomes more tolerant to watery substances and particles. 01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:52.740 They can pass right into the substance of the cell. 01:10:52.740 --> 01:10:55.020 Wow, that's pretty geeky. 01:10:55.020 --> 01:11:03.540 So what's the takeaway for our listeners as far as avoiding nanoparticles? 01:11:03.540 --> 01:11:07.340 What's the takeaway from what you said? 01:11:07.340 --> 01:11:15.540 Clothes are being treated with particles that have a deodorant action, silver particles, 01:11:15.540 --> 01:11:16.540 for example. 01:11:16.540 --> 01:11:24.860 When these contact your sweaty skin, the silver particles can actually pass through your skin 01:11:24.860 --> 01:11:27.420 into your bloodstream. 01:11:27.420 --> 01:11:39.340 Toothpaste is often massively containing nanoparticles or larger particles just because they assure 01:11:39.340 --> 01:11:43.300 you that they aren't intended to be nanoparticles. 01:11:43.300 --> 01:11:50.260 Still the microparticles, once they're in contact with your mouth membranes or if they're 01:11:50.260 --> 01:11:55.100 swallowed, they can pass into your bloodstream. 01:11:55.100 --> 01:12:03.140 Salad dressings are often thickened with nanoparticles or close to nanoparticles. 01:12:03.140 --> 01:12:13.180 Fumed silica is particles of glass basically so fine that they will float in the air. 01:12:13.180 --> 01:12:20.900 These are used as a thickening substance in foods and you notice lots of supplements contain 01:12:20.900 --> 01:12:28.540 silica and titanium dioxide, silicon dioxide. 01:12:28.540 --> 01:12:41.980 These are often designed to be larger particles but even the apparently not nano, only microparticles, 01:12:41.980 --> 01:12:48.740 these still can contain the nanoparticles that are most pro-inflammatory resembling 01:12:48.740 --> 01:12:53.420 asbestos for their effects on cells. 01:12:53.420 --> 01:12:59.340 So obviously the more natural state we can eat our foods, the better we're going to stay 01:12:59.340 --> 01:13:00.740 away from these guys. 01:13:00.740 --> 01:13:05.020 Yeah, processed foods are increasingly being contaminated. 01:13:05.020 --> 01:13:06.020 You never know either, right? 01:13:06.020 --> 01:13:09.500 I mean, they have an ingredient. 01:13:09.500 --> 01:13:17.060 For example, there are things called food-grade lubricants to use on your machinery containing 01:13:17.060 --> 01:13:24.340 Teflon microparticles as a lubricant but they're food-grade because they know they're going 01:13:24.340 --> 01:13:29.940 to contaminate the food but they don't show up on the label because they're just a processing 01:13:29.940 --> 01:13:32.820 aid. 01:13:32.820 --> 01:13:41.020 So when a food is processed, if it comes in contact with machinery, it might be contaminated 01:13:41.020 --> 01:13:43.260 with food-grade Teflon lubricant. 01:13:43.260 --> 01:13:44.260 Yeah, wow. 01:13:44.260 --> 01:13:47.580 Dr. Ray Peat, another little plug then for our sulfur. 01:13:47.580 --> 01:13:51.400 A lot of the sulfur out there, almost all of it has silicon dioxide because they put 01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:55.420 it into capsules and they use it to make the machine work. 01:13:55.420 --> 01:13:57.980 Another reason why you just want to get the pure stuff like we sell. 01:13:57.980 --> 01:14:04.180 If you want sulfur, don't mess around with all these different excipients. 01:14:04.180 --> 01:14:05.180 They call them excipients. 01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:08.940 Let's go to a phone for Dr. Ray Peat. 01:14:08.940 --> 01:14:09.940 Good morning. 01:14:09.940 --> 01:14:10.940 Who's this? 01:14:10.940 --> 01:14:12.940 On the telephone? 01:14:12.940 --> 01:14:13.940 Hello? 01:14:13.940 --> 01:14:15.620 Well, we lost them. 01:14:15.620 --> 01:14:18.740 We'll go right back to the email here. 01:14:18.740 --> 01:14:19.740 Okay. 01:14:19.740 --> 01:14:30.860 Would Dr. Ray Peat recommend having the mercury amalgams removed in people with neurodegenerative 01:14:30.860 --> 01:14:31.860 issues? 01:14:31.860 --> 01:14:33.860 Oh, he's got some mercury. 01:14:33.860 --> 01:14:38.500 You want to get those out if somebody's got some neuro things going on? 01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:47.340 No, if they're old, they probably have released almost all of the mobile mercury and an old 01:14:47.340 --> 01:14:51.420 filling, I think it's better to not mess with it. 01:14:51.420 --> 01:14:54.620 You're going to damage the tooth more taking it out. 01:14:54.620 --> 01:14:58.660 Yeah, a lot of dentists recommend with you there. 01:14:58.660 --> 01:15:04.660 If it's really old, you can mess things up more than... 01:15:04.660 --> 01:15:12.060 Animal experiments, in rats, they would pull a molar and test it, its mental abilities. 01:15:12.060 --> 01:15:19.340 They found that its memory was impaired with each molar extraction. 01:15:19.340 --> 01:15:27.540 That is just because the mouth nerves are closely related to the brain function. 01:15:27.540 --> 01:15:37.060 So the more toxic or traumatic experience your jawbone has, the more it's going to affect 01:15:37.060 --> 01:15:39.060 your nerve stability. 01:15:39.060 --> 01:15:40.060 Interesting. 01:15:40.060 --> 01:15:41.660 Let's try the phone again. 01:15:41.660 --> 01:15:42.660 This morning on the phone, who's this? 01:15:42.660 --> 01:15:43.660 Yes, this is Brenda. 01:15:43.660 --> 01:15:48.660 Hi, Brenda, you're on the air with Dr. Ray Peat. 01:15:48.660 --> 01:15:49.660 Okay. 01:15:49.660 --> 01:15:57.820 I just heard a little bit earlier him talking about estrogen and all, and I just had a question. 01:15:57.820 --> 01:16:04.980 I've been doing the bioidentical estrogen testosterone pellets for over four years. 01:16:04.980 --> 01:16:18.180 And I mean, I'm like 65, so I'm post-menopausal, and then I take progesterone supplements also, 01:16:18.180 --> 01:16:22.420 but I feel really great. 01:16:22.420 --> 01:16:29.060 But I was thinking, but he's saying, you know, taking estrogen of any kind, although I had 01:16:29.060 --> 01:16:31.540 never done just the synthetic. 01:16:31.540 --> 01:16:38.460 That's why I wanted to do these pellets since they say they're supposed to be like 98% natural 01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:42.140 as much as our body produces. 01:16:42.140 --> 01:16:45.780 So I just wondered. 01:16:45.780 --> 01:16:55.540 Testosterone makes everyone feel good, male or female, but the women get the same effect 01:16:55.540 --> 01:17:05.940 pretty much from DHEA, which is the precursor of testosterone, and pregnenolone and DHEA 01:17:05.940 --> 01:17:17.700 both will optimize your progesterone and testosterone without as much risk of excess estrogen. 01:17:17.700 --> 01:17:28.300 After the age of about 35, the fat tissues in particular, the more fat there is in the 01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:35.780 body, the more likely it is to produce estrogen, and that becomes a continuous rather than 01:17:35.780 --> 01:17:40.060 a cyclic production of the estrogen. 01:17:40.060 --> 01:17:48.220 Normally in a cycling woman, you have about two or three days of strong effective estrogen, 01:17:48.220 --> 01:17:52.020 then it's knocked out by progesterone. 01:17:52.020 --> 01:18:00.500 The cyclic effect is if it's knocked out thoroughly by cyclic progesterone two or three weeks 01:18:00.500 --> 01:18:06.220 of every month, then the estrogen is not carcinogenic. 01:18:06.220 --> 01:18:15.180 But if it's not interrupted, it becomes even a small amount of uninterrupted estrogen as 01:18:15.180 --> 01:18:19.980 a higher degree of cancer producing. 01:18:19.980 --> 01:18:31.340 And progesterone, it's normally produced cyclically and the liver throws off the excess when it's 01:18:31.340 --> 01:18:35.940 been present for more than two weeks. 01:18:35.940 --> 01:18:41.300 And so you start losing the effectiveness of progesterone if you don't interrupt it 01:18:41.300 --> 01:18:46.860 and let the liver reset itself so it doesn't throw the progesterone off. 01:18:46.860 --> 01:18:52.420 Did that help you, Brenda, or are you confused? 01:18:52.420 --> 01:18:54.860 Yeah, well, a little. 01:18:54.860 --> 01:18:55.860 I'm still confused. 01:18:55.860 --> 01:19:04.900 It's like, oh, trying to figure out what would be the better thing to do. 01:19:04.900 --> 01:19:07.060 But you're feeling good now, though? 01:19:07.060 --> 01:19:09.060 Feeling good now? 01:19:09.060 --> 01:19:10.060 Uh-huh. 01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:11.060 Okay. 01:19:11.060 --> 01:19:12.060 Well. 01:19:12.060 --> 01:19:13.060 Yeah. 01:19:13.060 --> 01:19:18.380 But I've just wondered, like, for how many years it's supposed to be good to keep doing 01:19:18.380 --> 01:19:19.380 it. 01:19:19.380 --> 01:19:20.380 Yeah, sure. 01:19:20.380 --> 01:19:21.380 I have wondered about that. 01:19:21.380 --> 01:19:22.380 Yeah. 01:19:22.380 --> 01:19:31.300 There's really no need to supplement estrogen because all of the tissues as they age start 01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:34.500 to produce estrogen. 01:19:34.500 --> 01:19:44.580 The skin, uterus, breast, even the liver cells can start producing estrogen rather than excreting 01:19:44.580 --> 01:19:46.940 it. 01:19:46.940 --> 01:19:54.060 Testosterone has protective effects like progesterone. 01:19:54.060 --> 01:20:01.900 I think the reason women live on average longer than men is because they have more progesterone 01:20:01.900 --> 01:20:10.900 where a man's progesterone production is very low in relation to testosterone. 01:20:10.900 --> 01:20:16.780 And progesterone can't be converted to estrogen where testosterone can. 01:20:16.780 --> 01:20:25.980 So progesterone is more protective in aging than testosterone is. 01:20:25.980 --> 01:20:28.980 Well, I hope this helps with you, Brenda. 01:20:28.980 --> 01:20:29.980 Okay. 01:20:29.980 --> 01:20:30.980 All right. 01:20:30.980 --> 01:20:31.980 Thank you so much. 01:20:31.980 --> 01:20:32.980 Bye. 01:20:32.980 --> 01:20:33.980 Bye. 01:20:33.980 --> 01:20:39.700 Jeanette says, "I've enjoyed your show with Dr. Peat. Thank you for having him on. 01:20:39.700 --> 01:20:42.260 I hope he keeps coming back regularly. 01:20:42.260 --> 01:20:47.140 I started eating chicken necks, carrot salad, oranges to help my thyroid with great results. 01:20:47.140 --> 01:20:49.620 I feel warmer, have more energy." 01:20:49.620 --> 01:20:51.380 And would you please ask him this? 01:20:51.380 --> 01:20:52.380 Okay. 01:20:52.380 --> 01:20:53.380 So far, so good. 01:20:53.380 --> 01:20:58.460 "How does canned milk compare to fresh milk in terms of nutritional value?" 01:20:58.460 --> 01:20:59.460 Canned milk. 01:20:59.460 --> 01:21:01.740 I don't know what they mean, canned milk. 01:21:01.740 --> 01:21:02.740 You mean like... 01:21:02.740 --> 01:21:03.740 Oh, concentrated. 01:21:03.740 --> 01:21:04.740 Concentrated. 01:21:04.740 --> 01:21:05.740 Yeah. 01:21:05.740 --> 01:21:09.300 It used to be very popular for... 01:21:09.300 --> 01:21:10.300 Sure. 01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:11.780 Maybe for... 01:21:11.780 --> 01:21:12.780 Yeah. 01:21:12.780 --> 01:21:14.580 And coffee additive. 01:21:14.580 --> 01:21:24.180 But there was a discovery in the 1970s that they were soldering the cans with lead and 01:21:24.180 --> 01:21:29.500 milk contained much too high a lead concentration. 01:21:29.500 --> 01:21:34.460 But I think they've revised the manufacture of cans. 01:21:34.460 --> 01:21:42.780 I haven't checked recently, but I think canned milk is now prepared in a way that doesn't 01:21:42.780 --> 01:21:45.980 contain high amounts of lead. 01:21:45.980 --> 01:21:56.180 And all you lose is a little bit of the vitamin quality and you have a little bit of oxidized 01:21:56.180 --> 01:22:00.580 fatty material from the heat process. 01:22:00.580 --> 01:22:10.820 It is not as good as fresh milk, but you have a gradient from fresh raw milk to pasteurized 01:22:10.820 --> 01:22:15.220 milk to ultra-pasteurized to canned milk. 01:22:15.220 --> 01:22:18.700 And each time it loses a little value. 01:22:18.700 --> 01:22:23.700 But I use pasteurized milk almost always. 01:22:23.700 --> 01:22:25.940 You don't have a problem with pasteurized. 01:22:25.940 --> 01:22:32.940 She wants to know, "Is goat milk, kefir, and goat cheese good sources for calcium and protein?" 01:22:32.940 --> 01:22:33.940 Very good. 01:22:33.940 --> 01:22:34.940 Good. 01:22:34.940 --> 01:22:35.940 All right. 01:22:35.940 --> 01:22:39.860 Let's move on to another one. 01:22:39.860 --> 01:22:43.380 Patrick Timpani, oneradionetwork.com. 01:22:43.380 --> 01:22:53.500 I believe Ray Peate mentioned on a past show, taking supplemental iodine does not do anything 01:22:53.500 --> 01:22:56.420 for the thyroid in his last show with you. 01:22:56.420 --> 01:23:01.380 I've taken some iodine and it virtually gives me wonderful energy, which I'm loving because 01:23:01.380 --> 01:23:03.740 I often have no energy. 01:23:03.740 --> 01:23:07.180 So I'm kind of confused on what could be going on. 01:23:07.180 --> 01:23:13.180 I wonder if it's safe to take iodine every day. 01:23:13.180 --> 01:23:22.140 Iodine can interact with the polyunsaturated fats in your body, producing an antithyroid 01:23:22.140 --> 01:23:23.140 substance. 01:23:23.140 --> 01:23:34.500 And I've got a file of about 70 articles showing that the increased iodine in the diet as a 01:23:34.500 --> 01:23:43.980 result of iodized salt, it has produced a thyroid disease increase and that's correlated 01:23:43.980 --> 01:23:52.260 with increased thyroid cancer as well as various degrees of thyroiditis and nodules of the 01:23:52.260 --> 01:24:01.380 thyroid, probably because of its interaction with the polyunsaturated fats in the diet. 01:24:01.380 --> 01:24:10.620 And in some people, at least, iodine in excess has an anti-inflammatory value. 01:24:10.620 --> 01:24:19.540 So it has been used therapeutically to reduce inflammation and can, for example, help polycystic 01:24:19.540 --> 01:24:20.780 breasts. 01:24:20.780 --> 01:24:30.340 But when it's taken chronically in large amounts, its tendency is to have an antithyroid effect. 01:24:30.340 --> 01:24:34.060 So if you took too much, you could actually cause a Hashimoto's? 01:24:34.060 --> 01:24:35.060 Yeah. 01:24:35.060 --> 01:24:42.880 This person says, "I also read somewhere that iodine helps to control estrogen. 01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:45.260 Does Mr. Peate agree with this?" 01:24:45.260 --> 01:24:49.100 That's the anti-inflammatory effect. 01:24:49.100 --> 01:24:57.540 You can demonstrate that a very high amount of iodine reduces inflammation and counteracts 01:24:57.540 --> 01:25:00.700 that inflammatory effect of estrogen. 01:25:00.700 --> 01:25:08.220 But some people have the reverse effect, they get an inflammatory reaction to even small 01:25:08.220 --> 01:25:09.220 amounts of iodine. 01:25:09.220 --> 01:25:12.540 So you have to be very careful if you're experimenting with it. 01:25:12.540 --> 01:25:15.180 Dr. Ray Peate, Patrick D'Emponi, we'll do a few more. 01:25:15.180 --> 01:25:19.260 I don't know if you can do this one, but you tell me, Dr. Peate. 01:25:19.260 --> 01:25:26.500 I never really heard a clear explanation of how the male hormone system works. 01:25:26.500 --> 01:25:33.500 Would it be possible for Dr. Peate to give us this on a show? 01:25:33.500 --> 01:25:42.660 Well, it's infinitely complicated, but it's a lot simpler than female hormones because 01:25:42.660 --> 01:25:45.940 there isn't that powerful cyclic effect. 01:25:45.940 --> 01:25:50.900 A woman goes through two distinct phases. 01:25:50.900 --> 01:25:58.380 The estrogen is knocked out by the progesterone, where a man constantly has to deal with those 01:25:58.380 --> 01:26:03.660 same effects. 01:26:03.660 --> 01:26:14.540 If you think of it in terms of a long-range stress effect, testosterone for most of your 01:26:14.540 --> 01:26:24.420 lifespan is having an anti-stress effect, but if your thyroid is interfered with in 01:26:24.420 --> 01:26:35.220 any way, radiation or too much of certain amino acids or not enough nutrients, a slow 01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:43.060 thyroid will shift you over to the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. 01:26:43.060 --> 01:26:49.100 That's where the degenerative problems start. 01:26:49.100 --> 01:26:54.980 Testosterone should protect your nervous system just like progesterone and protects against 01:26:54.980 --> 01:27:05.140 cancer, but when your energy is reduced by a falling thyroid function, then it becomes 01:27:05.140 --> 01:27:07.780 analogous to the female's problem. 01:27:07.780 --> 01:27:09.740 I see. 01:27:09.740 --> 01:27:16.620 Do you ever recommend to folks to take the actual supplemental testosterone, the pellets 01:27:16.620 --> 01:27:19.620 and that kind of stuff? 01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:26.020 Well, a pellet is probably better than an oily injection. 01:27:26.020 --> 01:27:32.540 I would recommend it if it was available as pure testosterone, but it's typically sold 01:27:32.540 --> 01:27:40.140 as testosterone esters, a completely chemically different substance that's dissolved in vegetable 01:27:40.140 --> 01:27:50.420 oil, often with a solvent, a benzoyl alcohol, which is in itself toxic, neurotoxic, but 01:27:50.420 --> 01:28:01.820 the vegetable oil has its toxic effect in the muscle if it's injected IM, so it's a 01:28:01.820 --> 01:28:06.700 matter of how it is available. 01:28:06.700 --> 01:28:17.700 So I don't often recommend it because usually an injection will contain 50 or 100 milligrams 01:28:17.700 --> 01:28:26.820 of this testosterone ester and a young man might produce four or five milligrams a day 01:28:26.820 --> 01:28:38.540 of the actual testosterone, so you get these huge excesses as well as the toxic breakdown 01:28:38.540 --> 01:28:48.220 products of the solvent that are real drawbacks to the use of pharmaceutical supplements. 01:28:48.220 --> 01:28:54.820 So if you can get a real pure testosterone, it might be okay to use? 01:28:54.820 --> 01:29:01.180 Yeah, and it produces great physical, mental effects. 01:29:01.180 --> 01:29:13.460 DHEA as a precursor to testosterone is very easily available, and again, you don't want 01:29:13.460 --> 01:29:16.620 to take unphysiologically huge amounts. 01:29:16.620 --> 01:29:23.300 I've known men who developed an enlarged liver with estrogen as high as a young woman's when 01:29:23.300 --> 01:29:28.660 they were taking 25 milligrams a day of DHEA. 01:29:28.660 --> 01:29:36.420 A full replacement dose is around 15 milligrams, which an 80 or 90-year-old man might need. 01:29:36.420 --> 01:29:38.460 I see, 15 milligrams. 01:29:38.460 --> 01:29:42.660 Anything with the DHEA for the T or just by itself? 01:29:42.660 --> 01:29:43.660 Just by itself is fine. 01:29:43.660 --> 01:29:47.980 Just a little bit, though, just a little bit. 01:29:47.980 --> 01:29:58.060 Many plant toxins, writes an email, or antibiotics, for example, chlorellin, C-H-L-O-R-E-L-L-I-N, 01:29:58.060 --> 01:30:01.900 and allopathy is the science devoted to it. 01:30:01.900 --> 01:30:09.780 Can you recommend any effective natural antibiotics to folks who don't want to go to medical doctors? 01:30:09.780 --> 01:30:20.780 Yeah, the two that I think are safest for actually killing organisms are flowers of 01:30:20.780 --> 01:30:25.580 sulfur for use on the skin and intestine. 01:30:25.580 --> 01:30:34.460 Two hundred milligrams orally in two or three days, it can kill off the most toxic of the 01:30:34.460 --> 01:30:37.140 intestinal bacteria and fungus. 01:30:37.140 --> 01:30:38.140 No kidding. 01:30:38.140 --> 01:30:44.500 On the skin, it has been used not only for fungus infections of the skin, just dusting 01:30:44.500 --> 01:30:53.140 on flowers of sulfur or using 10% sulfur soap to wash with, leaves a residue of sulfur on 01:30:53.140 --> 01:30:57.820 the skin, but it can be used for scabies even. 01:30:57.820 --> 01:31:07.500 A salve made of mixing butter with flowers of sulfur was tested and found just as effective 01:31:07.500 --> 01:31:15.420 as the brain toxic insecticides or scabicides that are used medically. 01:31:15.420 --> 01:31:20.620 But this flowers of sulfur, you do take it internally, two hundred milligrams? 01:31:20.620 --> 01:31:21.620 Yeah. 01:31:21.620 --> 01:31:26.540 And it works on intestinal bacteria, the bad guys? 01:31:26.540 --> 01:31:31.980 Yeah, the fungus has been the best studied. 01:31:31.980 --> 01:31:44.740 Candida, for example, secretes enzymes that convert the yellow crystalline sulfur, convert 01:31:44.740 --> 01:31:51.020 it to sulfuric acid and poison themselves or hydrogen sulfide. 01:31:51.020 --> 01:32:01.380 So they locally create a toxic condition that kills them, but it is very, very harmless 01:32:01.380 --> 01:32:05.780 to the intestine if you take a very small amount like 200 milligrams. 01:32:05.780 --> 01:32:06.860 Flowers of sulfur. 01:32:06.860 --> 01:32:10.260 So that's very different from the sulfur we promote, the pure sulfur, right? 01:32:10.260 --> 01:32:15.940 This is a whole other product that's created from sulfur called flowers of sulfur? 01:32:15.940 --> 01:32:26.380 It's the very fine particles of sulfur, but they're quickly dissolved and metabolized 01:32:26.380 --> 01:32:29.260 by the organisms. 01:32:29.260 --> 01:32:32.860 So I've never heard of a problem with... 01:32:32.860 --> 01:32:33.860 I'll be darned. 01:32:33.860 --> 01:32:40.940 I've never even heard of that idea of flowers of sulfur, but that's a good antibiotic. 01:32:40.940 --> 01:32:50.140 And aspirin, when it's used with the standard antibiotics, it can greatly increase their 01:32:50.140 --> 01:32:51.900 effectiveness. 01:32:51.900 --> 01:33:00.580 But all by itself, it has antibiotic antiviral as well as antibacterial and antifungal effects. 01:33:00.580 --> 01:33:04.900 It's too cheap to be of interest pharmaceutically. 01:33:04.900 --> 01:33:14.780 There was a study treating AIDS patients with just aspirin, large doses, and the results 01:33:14.780 --> 01:33:18.140 seemed very favorable, but no one promoted it. 01:33:18.140 --> 01:33:20.940 Okay, it was too cheap, right? 01:33:20.940 --> 01:33:26.260 What about some folks who take aspirin preventive-wise or just in general? 01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:28.340 I mean, is it okay? 01:33:28.340 --> 01:33:34.260 Yeah, it's something I do just from the known protective effects of it. 01:33:34.260 --> 01:33:35.260 I'll be darned. 01:33:35.260 --> 01:33:36.820 Just a little bare aspirin? 01:33:36.820 --> 01:33:41.180 Yeah, anywhere from 100 to 300 milligrams. 01:33:41.180 --> 01:33:42.180 I think one of the regular... 01:33:42.180 --> 01:33:45.020 Aren't the regular pills about 300, something like that? 01:33:45.020 --> 01:33:47.020 It's hard to even find a pure bare aspirin. 01:33:47.020 --> 01:33:49.340 They want to do all kinds of weird things to it. 01:33:49.340 --> 01:33:52.260 Oh, yeah. 01:33:52.260 --> 01:33:55.940 You can buy a pound of aspirin for about $10 or $15. 01:33:55.940 --> 01:34:01.100 Oh, you mean just pure aspirin, like chemical stores, something like that? 01:34:01.100 --> 01:34:03.580 It should be USP grade. 01:34:03.580 --> 01:34:05.940 USP aspirin. 01:34:05.940 --> 01:34:08.820 Is Dr. Peat familiar with NR? 01:34:08.820 --> 01:34:11.380 Have you heard of that? 01:34:11.380 --> 01:34:14.780 For improving our lifespan? 01:34:14.780 --> 01:34:19.780 Yeah, NR. 01:34:19.780 --> 01:34:21.500 Just the letters NR. 01:34:21.500 --> 01:34:22.500 Correct. 01:34:22.500 --> 01:34:29.860 The only product I know is Nature's Remedy. 01:34:29.860 --> 01:34:35.660 I'm not sure what they have in mind. 01:34:35.660 --> 01:34:36.660 That's okay. 01:34:36.660 --> 01:34:41.380 What does Dr. Peat recommend eating for balancing progesterone? 01:34:41.380 --> 01:34:44.820 Is it only an orange if progesterone supplementation is required? 01:34:44.820 --> 01:34:50.500 Do you recommend a drop of the cream nowadays? 01:34:50.500 --> 01:34:53.660 How does one know when supplementation is required? 01:34:53.660 --> 01:34:58.860 My wife said that she feels like a million bucks when she was pregnant and her progesterone 01:34:58.860 --> 01:35:05.340 levels were somewhat normal. 01:35:05.340 --> 01:35:11.780 The pregnancy effect is anti-aging. 01:35:11.780 --> 01:35:18.900 There were studies in rabbits that showed that each pregnancy, the estrogen aged the 01:35:18.900 --> 01:35:28.860 connective tissues, but the pregnancy left the rabbit younger than it had been during 01:35:28.860 --> 01:35:30.420 and before the pregnancy. 01:35:30.420 --> 01:35:39.540 So they looked at longevity figures for I think it was in the hundreds of thousands 01:35:39.540 --> 01:35:46.380 of women in Hungary and they saw a very neat relationship. 01:35:46.380 --> 01:35:53.140 Lifespan increased in proportion to the number of babies they had had up to eight babies 01:35:53.140 --> 01:36:03.540 per woman, they had the longest life expectancy, showing apparently the same pregnancy effect, 01:36:03.540 --> 01:36:11.260 leaving a residually higher progesterone level in the body, reversing the pro-aging effects 01:36:11.260 --> 01:36:12.260 of estrogen. 01:36:12.260 --> 01:36:13.260 Very interesting. 01:36:13.260 --> 01:36:14.260 Here's an email. 01:36:14.260 --> 01:36:20.540 "I went through menopause 13 years ago and I'm no estrogen or progesterone from any 01:36:20.540 --> 01:36:22.100 urine test I've done. 01:36:22.100 --> 01:36:27.340 My doctor wants to put me on a compound hormone replacement therapy, but people have said 01:36:27.340 --> 01:36:28.700 no don't do it. 01:36:28.700 --> 01:36:36.660 My question is, would just taking progesterone help me with dryness, painful intercourse, 01:36:36.660 --> 01:36:41.420 and the feeling of learned helplessness?" 01:36:41.420 --> 01:36:47.220 Typically it does. 01:36:47.220 --> 01:36:56.140 If you create learned helplessness in animals, their estrogen goes up and progesterone goes 01:36:56.140 --> 01:37:03.580 down and you can reverse it with either progesterone or active thyroid hormone. 01:37:03.580 --> 01:37:12.740 And when you give animals an entertaining, free environment, lots of things to do, their 01:37:12.740 --> 01:37:17.820 progesterone goes up and their estrogen goes down. 01:37:17.820 --> 01:37:26.900 And with aging, the serum estrogen goes down along with the serum progesterone, but that 01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:34.740 doesn't reflect the actual biological situation because estrogen is formed in any kind of 01:37:34.740 --> 01:37:43.420 cell that's under stress, but it is bound by the so-called estrogen receptor or estrogen 01:37:43.420 --> 01:37:46.740 binding proteins inside cells. 01:37:46.740 --> 01:37:54.180 It's produced there and retained inside cells and can't get into the bloodstream in the 01:37:54.180 --> 01:37:57.100 absence of progesterone. 01:37:57.100 --> 01:38:02.620 Progesterone's function is to knock out not only the aromatase that makes estrogen, but 01:38:02.620 --> 01:38:07.900 to knock out the estrogen receptor that binds it and keeps it in cells. 01:38:07.900 --> 01:38:18.020 So when you give someone postmenopausal who has very low blood or serum estrogen, you 01:38:18.020 --> 01:38:24.500 give them progesterone, suddenly the cells expel their estrogen. 01:38:24.500 --> 01:38:33.460 The liver detoxifies it, makes it water-soluble to leave in the kidneys. 01:38:33.460 --> 01:38:43.700 So the woman who is most under the influence of estrogen because of having no progesterone 01:38:43.700 --> 01:38:49.740 will show almost zero estrogen in the serum because it's all inside cells. 01:38:49.740 --> 01:38:51.780 I see. 01:38:51.780 --> 01:39:03.580 The fellow wrote back, "The NR was nicodiamide riboside precursor to NAD, supposed to be 01:39:03.580 --> 01:39:08.300 key to longevity and regeneration." 01:39:08.300 --> 01:39:17.220 Those already reduced substances, I'm skeptical that they're even making it into the cells 01:39:17.220 --> 01:39:22.940 without being oxidized en route unless you inject them intravenously. 01:39:22.940 --> 01:39:28.100 Even then, the blood contains things that can oxidize them. 01:39:28.100 --> 01:39:35.340 But just taking niacinamide will increase your intracellular NAD. 01:39:35.340 --> 01:39:38.380 That's very simple to do and economical and harmless. 01:39:38.380 --> 01:39:44.220 And it's harmless and that could increase strength and longevity. 01:39:44.220 --> 01:39:52.740 Yeah, the NAD is very important and is increased by supplementing niacinamide. 01:39:52.740 --> 01:39:53.740 Finally here, then we'll let you go. 01:39:53.740 --> 01:39:56.740 And I wanted to just get your opinion from me. 01:39:56.740 --> 01:40:02.060 What's your make of this, your take on this whole big gluten thing that we've experienced 01:40:02.060 --> 01:40:04.220 in what, the last 15 years? 01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:08.020 And of course now they have gluten-free aisles at the store. 01:40:08.020 --> 01:40:14.700 Give me your perspective on what went on here and what is going on with gluten sensitivity 01:40:14.700 --> 01:40:17.860 here with all your research. 01:40:17.860 --> 01:40:23.820 There's an article on my website about gluten. 01:40:23.820 --> 01:40:31.900 It happens to interact with stress and estrogen. 01:40:31.900 --> 01:40:40.820 The gluten molecule oddly has a stretch of amino acids that resembles proteins that are 01:40:40.820 --> 01:40:45.580 involved with stress, inflammation and estrogen. 01:40:45.580 --> 01:41:01.700 And so if you're stressed and tending to have high estrogen, you're creating a molecular 01:41:01.700 --> 01:41:09.060 antigen surface that responds to gluten in your diet. 01:41:09.060 --> 01:41:17.340 But if you're in very good condition, have your estrogen under control, the gluten is 01:41:17.340 --> 01:41:23.820 digested properly without presenting that antigenic toxic effect. 01:41:23.820 --> 01:41:28.100 So a lot of this gluten stuff is tied in with stress? 01:41:28.100 --> 01:41:29.100 Yeah. 01:41:29.100 --> 01:41:30.100 Wow. 01:41:30.100 --> 01:41:33.380 Just like everything, huh? 01:41:33.380 --> 01:41:41.820 Yeah, it's a hormonal, immunological process that gluten just happens to be a molecule 01:41:41.820 --> 01:41:50.820 that has this stretch of amino acids that gives us a signal that amplifies our own stress 01:41:50.820 --> 01:41:53.740 inflammatory reactions. 01:41:53.740 --> 01:41:59.140 Looking back, do you have a good sense of how this whole gluten sensitivity, gluten-free 01:41:59.140 --> 01:42:00.780 thing started? 01:42:00.780 --> 01:42:12.060 Yeah, I think a bad diet that creates inflammation by not enough protein, having unsaturated 01:42:12.060 --> 01:42:23.540 rather than saturated fats and generally poor nutrition and having improperly leavened bread, 01:42:23.540 --> 01:42:30.500 blowing up the bread quickly rather than soaking it for 12 hours in the old-fashioned leavening 01:42:30.500 --> 01:42:41.460 machine, the soaking to let it leaven naturally with yeast, in those 12 hours at approximately 01:42:41.460 --> 01:42:54.700 room temperature, the gluten was digested by the enzymes in the wheat germ and the pre-digestion 01:42:54.700 --> 01:42:59.780 kept us from being exposed to gluten. 01:42:59.780 --> 01:43:07.180 So when they make the bread economically and quickly, the gluten stays there and gives 01:43:07.180 --> 01:43:14.780 the bread a rubbery, elastic texture that is pleasant to eat because it tends to be 01:43:14.780 --> 01:43:16.780 moist and soft. 01:43:16.780 --> 01:43:26.060 But that gluten which makes the bread economical and pleasant to eat happens to be endogenic 01:43:26.060 --> 01:43:27.620 and allergenic. 01:43:27.620 --> 01:43:35.380 So there's a lot going on in the gluten world with doctors and stuff and healing that's 01:43:35.380 --> 01:43:37.100 maybe just not right. 01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:48.420 Yeah, many years ago I was interested in baking bread and made very tasty bread with a 12-hour 01:43:48.420 --> 01:43:50.780 leavening process. 01:43:50.780 --> 01:43:59.100 I had previously noticed that eating a slice of standard grocery store bread would make 01:43:59.100 --> 01:44:07.660 me have bad sleep, digestive discomfort that woke me up repeatedly. 01:44:07.660 --> 01:44:13.340 When I baked my own bread that was leavened, I could eat a whole loaf of it at bedtime 01:44:13.340 --> 01:44:14.340 and sleep perfectly. 01:44:14.340 --> 01:44:19.380 Oh, you mean because you were using yeast and you just leavened it and you did... 01:44:19.380 --> 01:44:22.900 Or was it a sourdough thing, sourdough culture? 01:44:22.900 --> 01:44:26.620 Yeah, it was soaked for 12 hours. 01:44:26.620 --> 01:44:32.980 That destroys almost all the gluten, converts it to nutritious protein. 01:44:32.980 --> 01:44:37.740 So it's not only less pro-inflammatory but more nutritious. 01:44:37.740 --> 01:44:40.460 It actually has more protein. 01:44:40.460 --> 01:44:43.580 Ah, the wonders of the body in science and research. 01:44:43.580 --> 01:44:45.020 You just keep on digging. 01:44:45.020 --> 01:44:48.780 Well, Dr. Peat, thanks for coming back and being with us. 01:44:48.780 --> 01:44:49.780 Okay, thank you. 01:44:49.780 --> 01:44:51.660 Yeah, I really enjoyed having you on. 01:44:51.660 --> 01:44:58.620 Your website, how do folks get your newsletter? 01:44:58.620 --> 01:45:02.660 The email address is raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 01:45:02.660 --> 01:45:08.780 That's $28 for 12 issues over two years. 01:45:08.780 --> 01:45:09.780 That's great. 01:45:09.780 --> 01:45:10.780 raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 01:45:10.780 --> 01:45:14.940 We'll put that on the show page if folks want to click. 01:45:14.940 --> 01:45:15.940 Good job. 01:45:15.940 --> 01:45:18.060 Well, Dr. Peat, have a pleasant day there. 01:45:18.060 --> 01:45:21.100 And again, our appreciation for your time. 01:45:21.100 --> 01:45:22.580 Okay, thank you. 01:45:22.580 --> 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