WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.000 Hello. Dr. Peat, there you are. Yes, hi. Hi, good morning. How are things with you, sir? 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:15.920 Pretty good. Pretty good? Pretty good? What'd you have for breakfast? Oh, I've just 00:00:15.920 --> 00:00:22.720 coffee and milk. Coffee and milk. Coffee and milk. It's so funny, there's so many 00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:26.800 people out there, Dr. Peat, that tell you, "Boy, you just shouldn't drink milk." I 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.480 mean, milk, we're the only mammals in the world that don't drink milk after weaning, 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:36.080 and it's just going to kill you and all of that. It hasn't killed you. 00:00:36.080 --> 00:00:44.200 Nope. It's actually one of the cleanest foods available because of the cow filtering 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:55.680 it through many layers, chemically. The rumen processes the toxins out of the plant material. 00:00:55.680 --> 00:01:03.400 When you eat the same leaves that a cow eats, you absorb many allergens and toxic materials 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:12.640 that the plant puts into its leaves defensively intended to kill bugs or anyone who would 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:22.240 damage them, eating holes in their leaves and such. So really, there are chemical pesticides 00:01:22.240 --> 00:01:33.680 naturally in plant material. Seeds are the most precious to the plant. Their whole generation 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:43.920 depends on the seeds being viable and not being eaten by microorganisms or large organisms. 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:54.400 So they have the most intense toxins and blockers of the digestive system. When you look at 00:01:54.400 --> 00:02:05.440 the chemicals in seeds, it turns out that they block the digestive enzymes of mammals 00:02:05.440 --> 00:02:14.480 and insects, but they don't affect that same type of enzyme in plants. So it's obvious 00:02:14.480 --> 00:02:26.760 that they're directed towards a defense against being eaten. Unless you have very sophisticated 00:02:26.760 --> 00:02:33.160 lab equipment, you just can't separate the good stuff from the toxins. But the cow's 00:02:33.160 --> 00:02:44.920 rumen is such that the microorganisms do the chemistry of eliminating the bad stuff, increasing 00:02:44.920 --> 00:02:50.680 the good stuff. 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:55.120 At the local store, they have a few choices of organic milk. I didn't want to get one 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.040 of those big, huge things because I don't drink a lot of it, but I wanted to try a little. 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:03.560 And I just got some half and half organic. Boy, that's pretty fun to drink, getting 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.440 a lot of good fat in there. 00:03:05.440 --> 00:03:14.120 Yeah, I use cream or half and half in my coffee. 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:21.520 What's with this A2 for cows? Is there anything for that if you get a Jersey A2 cow that's 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:28.240 easier to digest? And talk about the difference between goat milk and cow milk. 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:36.800 There's a big difference between the milk of all species, but they still have in common 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:48.480 the rumen milk. Camels, goats, sheep, cows, yamas, that type of animal produces the safest 00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:56.480 milk. The reason people don't drink pig milk or bear milk or such is that they don't 00:03:56.480 --> 00:04:00.560 have rumens, and so all the plant toxins go into their milk. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.760 They don't have rumens. And explain what rumens are exactly. 00:04:04.760 --> 00:04:16.200 It's an extra stomach that the vegetable material goes in and soaks with. The body 00:04:16.200 --> 00:04:27.200 temperature favors the growth of microorganisms which ferment and degrade the plant material, 00:04:27.200 --> 00:04:39.240 basically digesting it with protozoa, fungi, bacteria, all of the major types of microorganisms 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:48.160 get a chance to break down the plant material. Then that broken down material goes through 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:56.840 the regular digestive system, analogous to what we have. People and bears and pigs don't 00:04:56.840 --> 00:05:07.880 have that extra stomach, and so whatever they eat pretty much goes with minimal filtering 00:05:07.880 --> 00:05:08.880 through the bloodstream. 00:05:08.880 --> 00:05:15.960 Dr. Ray Peat is with us. He has a PhD in biology, University of Oregon, specialized in physiology. 00:05:15.960 --> 00:05:22.800 He taught in schools. He's taught in University of Oregon, Urbana College, Montana State University, 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:29.280 National College of Naturopathic Medicine, University of Arizona down in Mexico. He's 00:05:29.280 --> 00:05:33.760 done some work in Mexico. He started his work with the progesterone and related hormones 00:05:33.760 --> 00:05:40.840 in 1968. He goes back. If you'd like to be on the show, email wise, Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:05:40.840 --> 00:05:46.240 Our 800 thing is not functioning today because of a long story, but we're working on that 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:52.160 to get that fixed. Just use the email this morning, Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:59.000 You mentioned the pigs. I often thought about how they do these various testing on animals, 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:05.320 I guess rats, I guess that they use mice for doing all these different testing. Dr. Peat, 00:06:05.320 --> 00:06:11.640 is that viable to do something on a mouse or a rat and say, "Well, then that's the 00:06:11.640 --> 00:06:14.080 way it is for humans too"? 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:23.440 One great difference between mice and rats is that they are mainly nocturnal animals. 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:32.560 If the experimenter is working in the lab in the daytime and they keep the rat or mouse 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:41.280 awake to do their experiments, they're creating intense stress in the animal. So the experimenter 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:49.000 to do something analogous to what happens in a human has to stay up all night to work 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:57.720 with the nocturnal animals and they don't do that. So automatically you have to question 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:07.520 what time of day they were doing their experiments. Very often if someone is selling a product, 00:07:07.520 --> 00:07:15.440 they'll try out very different animals so they can get the kind of results they want. 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:24.440 In the 1960s and early 70s, the estrogen industry was testing their products on dogs and they 00:07:24.440 --> 00:07:39.720 found that estrogen would damage the dog's bones. But by using a species that lives oppositely 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:46.240 in the nighttime rather than daytime, they found that estrogen would strengthen the bones 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:55.240 of mice and rats. But it happens that cortisol, which weakens dogs' and humans' bones, 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:03.080 cortisol stimulates the growth of bones in these nocturnal animals. So what they're 00:08:03.080 --> 00:08:10.800 doing is choosing the animal that is specific to get the kind of result they want. 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:15.760 And I've often thought of the idea with the mice and the rat, these little guys are 00:08:15.760 --> 00:08:23.200 probably surrounded by a huge amount of electromagnetic fields with who knows what kind of lights, 00:08:23.200 --> 00:08:26.520 all these weird lights that are not good for you, and then who knows what they're feeding 00:08:26.520 --> 00:08:32.720 them to. So that would, to me, would put a fly in the ointment of results and how accurate 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:33.720 they are. 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:43.440 - [Dr. Reagan] Yeah, and they commonly use a very standardized controlled diet. There 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:54.200 are prejudices built into what they call the standard diet. Often they'll put in 6% of 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:03.600 so-called essential fatty acid, which isn't all essential. When someone experiments leaving 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:10.880 out those essential fatty acids, they get super rats or super mice, very resistant to 00:09:10.880 --> 00:09:25.120 poisons, trauma, shock, venoms, aging diseases, very resistant to diabetes, all kinds of biological 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:33.720 damage is less in the animals that are deficient in the so-called essential fatty acids. But 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:42.880 since they build those fats into the diet, then when they compare an experimental diet 00:09:42.880 --> 00:09:50.600 to the standard diet, they're already biasing the experiment. They're making sick animals 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:57.800 as their reference, and then if they're less sick when they change the diet, they say that 00:09:57.800 --> 00:10:04.400 means their recommended additive is beneficial. 00:10:04.400 --> 00:10:09.520 - [Dr. Sinclair] I wonder who came up with the term essential fatty acids. 00:10:09.520 --> 00:10:24.080 - [Dr. Reagan] That was Burr, I forget his first name, he and his wife, around the late 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:32.800 1920s and early 1930s, got the idea that maybe fats were like a vitamin, even though two 00:10:32.800 --> 00:10:40.360 or three research groups at big universities had demonstrated that you could have a totally 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:48.520 fat-free diet and the animals actually lived longer. I think Osburn was the name of one 00:10:48.520 --> 00:10:59.200 of the research groups. But the Burrs got this idea and created a fat-free diet, but 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:05.640 at that time, the B vitamins, most of the B vitamins hadn't been discovered, and they 00:11:05.640 --> 00:11:14.480 were feeding a diet deficient in the unsaturated fats, but also deficient in several of the 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:23.240 B vitamins. They said they had created a deficiency disease in which the animals got sore tails 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:35.960 and areas of their face around their mouth got rashy and cracked. They said this is the 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:46.520 fatty acid deficiency symptom. But 15 years later, Texas Research Institute, one of the 00:11:46.520 --> 00:11:55.440 universities there, demonstrated they discovered vitamin B6 and some of the other B vitamins 00:11:55.440 --> 00:12:02.640 and they created the Burr essential fatty acid deficient animals and then gave them 00:12:02.640 --> 00:12:13.560 only vitamin B6 in addition, no fat, and cured the deficiency symptom. So they, in 1945 or 00:12:13.560 --> 00:12:19.240 '46, proved that there was no essential fatty acid. 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:30.040 But meanwhile, the petroleum industry was working on how to make plastics and paint, 00:12:30.040 --> 00:12:40.560 the synthetic plastics were being engineered at the same time. And the seed oils like linseed 00:12:40.560 --> 00:12:50.080 oil had been the bulk of plastics and paints up until that time, but petroleum chemistry 00:12:50.080 --> 00:13:00.720 replaced the seed oils. So there was no longer a paint and plastics market for linseed oil 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:08.200 and cotton seed oil and so on. So they had to figure out some way to dispose of their 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:17.480 product. The crop was being grown, but no one needed it for paint. So they decided to 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:26.360 sell it to the public as a food. The same thing happened in the '60s and '70s with 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:35.000 fish oil. Fish oil had been primarily used as varnish or fuel, lamp fuel, but it made 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:46.200 a good varnish because it hardens on exposure to oxygen the way linseed oil does. But the 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:52.080 fish processing factories were throwing away the skin and the fatty parts when they were 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:59.320 canning salmon or other fish, and they were causing horrible pollution of the bay areas 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:07.080 and land areas adjacent to the factories. The EPA told them they had to figure out something 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:13.880 to do with their waste material to reduce the pollution, and fish oil as a health food 00:14:13.880 --> 00:14:16.480 came on the market. 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.520 That's great. Let's just give it to the people. They'll eat it. 00:14:20.520 --> 00:14:25.960 Yeah. I've suggested that that might be the way to dispose of used tires. 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:34.800 Yeah, that's right. Make some kind of food out of it. But I've often kind of conjectured 00:14:34.800 --> 00:14:40.840 that, wasn't fish oil, though, used early on, like 1800s and 1900s too? Isn't there 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.840 some records of that? 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:52.560 Yeah. For hundreds of years, it was known to make a good varnish, and whale oil was 00:14:52.560 --> 00:15:03.840 a liquid that was good for lamp oil. It was a major fuel oil for a couple of hundred years. 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:09.680 But I've often heard that parents gave their kids cod liver oil, like in 1900 and stuff 00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:10.680 around there. 00:15:10.680 --> 00:15:13.480 Oh, yeah. I got some when I was a kid. 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:19.400 Okay. So it wasn't that it wasn't consumed internally, you're saying, in the '60s, so 00:15:19.400 --> 00:15:23.360 when it really busted out, right? When it really, yeah, market. 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:28.800 That was only the liver oil, and it's very different from the regular fish oil. Fish 00:15:28.800 --> 00:15:36.240 oil has, what they're selling now, isn't from the liver, and so it has practically 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:44.640 no vitamin value, very small contamination with vitamin D and vitamin A, but not enough 00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:47.520 to be therapeutic like the liver oil. 00:15:47.520 --> 00:15:51.000 So cod liver oil is different from fish oil? 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.640 Oh, tremendously different, yeah. 00:15:53.640 --> 00:15:57.160 Is cod liver oil then healthy? 00:15:57.160 --> 00:16:05.240 If you don't have other sources of vitamin A and vitamin D, if you live in Norway, for 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:10.560 example, that's where it got started. The winters are so dark, people found that they 00:16:10.560 --> 00:16:19.040 benefited, and if they didn't like the taste of the fish liver, they could maybe stand 00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:21.240 the taste of the liver oil. 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:27.360 I see. But we can get plenty of A in our food and D in the sun, right? 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:34.320 Yeah. Eggs are a good source of vitamin A, and getting sunlight is the best way to get 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:35.320 your D. 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.240 So you see no reason to do even cod liver oil? 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.720 No, only in certain areas. 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:50.760 In certain areas, yeah. Ray Peat is with us, and Patrick Timpone, Ray at OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:16:50.760 --> 00:16:57.400 Good to have you here. Please stick around. We have some good emails coming in for Dr. 00:16:57.400 --> 00:17:00.280 Peat. 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It's a very affordable thing. 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:09.600 How much is your newsletter again? It's $28 by email. 00:22:09.600 --> 00:22:13.120 $28 for a year, right? Yeah. 00:22:13.120 --> 00:22:18.160 Cool. Cool. No, it's 12 issues, but it's two years. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:25.520 Oh, 12 issues for $28. Wow. That's a good thing. Cool. Good job with that one. Patrick 00:22:25.520 --> 00:22:31.280 at OneRadioNetwork.com talking about water. What's your take on water? I don't know 00:22:31.280 --> 00:22:35.800 if we've ever talked to you about water. Of course, we have the Batman Gellich idea 00:22:35.800 --> 00:22:42.620 of one-half ounce of body weight for every pound. Talk a little bit about what your research 00:22:42.620 --> 00:22:49.480 shows and dehydration and keeping enough water in there. 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:58.160 Salt is one of the important factors in keeping us hydrated. In the '50s, the drug companies 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:06.080 came out with diuretic pills, new chemicals to make you lose water, and they sold them 00:23:06.080 --> 00:23:16.960 to pregnant women to prevent water retention. It turns out that that's a very bad idea because 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:23.040 during pregnancy, you have to retain water in your bloodstream, expand your blood volume 00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:33.360 tremendously so it can take care of the growing fetus as well as some other circulation. Whole 00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:41.920 new systems of blood vessels have to be supported, so you need more blood volume. To do that, 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:52.880 what retains the water in the bloodstream is largely the protein albumin, but the albumin 00:23:52.880 --> 00:24:01.880 doesn't retain water unless there is an associated sort of a cloud of sodium atoms associated 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:12.880 with the negative charges on the albumin protein. The combination of sodium albumin retains 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:23.160 water right within this system of atoms and molecules. If you don't have enough sodium, 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:32.600 if you take a diuretic that makes you lose sodium, the water that goes with the sodium 00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:43.600 does not just reduce the blood volume, but it reduces the ability of the albumin to pull 00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:52.000 water to keep water from going out into your tissues. So the albumin, instead of pulling 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:59.960 water out of your tissues into the bloodstream, the albumin itself goes out of the blood vessels 00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:10.000 into your tissues, creating a kind of edema and swelling that isn't the typical pitting 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:21.200 edema. It's a very firm resembling mixed edema of hypothyroidism, but it's simply caused 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:29.520 by the lack of sodium, which is needed to keep water in the proper compartments. So 00:25:29.520 --> 00:25:39.000 without sodium, you dehydrate your circulatory system, but waterlog the functioning tissues 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:46.760 so they don't work very well. So it's putting the water in the wrong place. In experiments, 00:25:46.760 --> 00:25:53.560 two different groups gave women with toxemia of pregnancy great water retention and high 00:25:53.560 --> 00:26:01.360 blood pressure. They gave them extra salt instead of diuretics to make them lose salt. 00:26:01.360 --> 00:26:07.520 And with this supplement, in one case, I think it was six grams a day. In the other group, 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:15.160 they gave them 20 or 21 grams a day of extra salt. In both cases, their blood pressure 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:22.880 quickly came down to normal and their toxemia was cured just by getting that considerably 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:24.760 big dose of daily salt. 00:26:24.760 --> 00:26:31.280 So the edema, puffiness around the ankles or lower legs, and I think, like you said, 00:26:31.280 --> 00:26:39.160 there's two different kinds. The kind that you press in and it keeps that little indentation 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:44.200 in there, and then there's some. What's the difference between those two? 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:55.040 If you have protein leaked out of your blood vessels among the tissue cells, that protein 00:26:55.040 --> 00:27:04.600 is slow to move under pressure. And if it's from the salt deficiency causing leakage of 00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:17.360 albumin or if it's from hypothyroidism causing accumulation of sugar-containing protein, 00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:26.640 either of those makes the water stick around your tissue cells and it doesn't get easily 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:34.960 pushed back into your blood vessels under pressure. So it tends to stay once it gets 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:42.040 into your feet, for example, by gravity. Then it doesn't all come out during the night. 00:27:42.040 --> 00:27:51.120 A simple edema will correct itself during the night just because the pressure is less 00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:58.600 extreme. But when you stand up, if you don't have enough sodium and albumin, your blood 00:27:58.600 --> 00:28:09.360 loses water into your lower extremities and they swell up. 00:28:09.360 --> 00:28:13.480 So people that they get the puffy ankles, they could actually just try taking more salt 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.400 and seeing if that doesn't clear it? 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:24.040 Yeah. You want to make sure your protein intake is adequate. And when you increase your protein, 00:28:24.040 --> 00:28:33.840 you want to make sure that you're not overloading on phosphate. Phosphate is now being recognized 00:28:33.840 --> 00:28:43.520 as a kidney toxin in kidney failure. Just too much phosphate is one of the most toxic 00:28:43.520 --> 00:28:53.320 things that damages the kidneys. So if you're going to increase your protein, use forms 00:28:53.320 --> 00:29:02.720 that are not overloaded with phosphate. Meat, fish, and seed proteins are the highest in 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:08.400 phosphate. Leaves and milk and cheese are the lowest in phosphate. 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:13.720 So you can get over phosphate if you're doing too much meat. 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:24.520 Yeah, definitely. Pure meat eaters eventually, like the Eskimos, when they were on a largely 00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:34.400 meat-eating diet, they aged quickly beyond the age of 40 and their bones had 10 or 15% 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:42.280 less mass than people in the same region who were not eating a pure meat diet. 00:29:42.280 --> 00:29:47.520 Here's an email. This is a good one. Eric, he wants to build more muscle. Who doesn't? 00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:54.600 What are some foods that we can eat to help muscle building? That's a good question. 00:29:54.600 --> 00:30:01.600 Protein is an essential thing, but you have to make sure, again, that it is not excessive 00:30:01.600 --> 00:30:12.440 in phosphate and that it has the B vitamins, vitamin D. Vitamin A is essential for making 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:19.960 protein, but you don't want to get too much carotene. Carotene turns off your metabolism, 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:27.400 blocks your testosterone production, for example. So you want natural animal vitamin A, such 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:34.160 as you get in eggs and liver. And not too much of that either, because that also is 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:43.280 toxic to your thyroid. But it's needed for making muscle protein, other proteins, and 00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:47.880 the steroid hormones, progesterone and testosterone. 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:55.280 We had a fellow on the other day who's a weightlifter kind of guy and talking about hormones and 00:30:55.280 --> 00:31:00.600 said that guys could do safely a little bit of progesterone from the wild, yam, you know, 00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:05.080 on your little dab of it. Do you agree with that? 00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:16.080 Oh yeah. If you take the amount a woman would use to replace after menopause, that's about 00:31:16.080 --> 00:31:25.800 30 milligrams a day, that can antagonize a man's testosterone and create a momentary 00:31:25.800 --> 00:31:32.680 testosterone deficiency. But if you take 5 or 10 milligrams, that's more in the range 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:40.160 that's normal for a man and it can actually, by reducing estrogen production in a man, 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:48.240 it can make the testosterone effect much more potent. Both testosterone and progesterone 00:31:48.240 --> 00:32:00.060 are capable of reducing the synthesis of estrogen, but testosterone can be converted into estrogen. 00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:07.760 If you don't have the progesterone and thyroid hormone, then you're liable to convert your 00:32:07.760 --> 00:32:14.360 testosterone into estrogen and lose the masculinizing effect of the testosterone. 00:32:14.360 --> 00:32:19.920 So that's why he was saying just a little bit will do you. He didn't give a formula, 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.800 but you say about 5 to 10 grams if the guys are going to try. 00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:24.800 Milligrams. 00:32:24.800 --> 00:32:29.880 Milligrams, yeah, sorry. 5 to 10 milligrams of a little bit of progesterone cream. And 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.920 it comes from wild yams, just from yammies. 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:41.840 Yeah. Well, it can be made from several different plant steroids. I don't think the majority 00:32:41.840 --> 00:32:46.560 is now being made from yams. I think it's cheaper from soybeans. 00:32:46.560 --> 00:32:51.280 Yeah, you don't want to do that, right? 00:32:51.280 --> 00:32:58.600 Well, yeah, because it's cheap and it's all refined so that you can't tell what plant 00:32:58.600 --> 00:33:06.320 it came from. It's chemically so purified that there's no difference between whether 00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:18.160 it comes from a ginger, I think, is one of the plants, and soy and yam. But the bulk 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:23.760 is now made from soy, but it's all just as good. 00:33:23.760 --> 00:33:30.760 Are beans estrogenic where you want to not do too many of those? 00:33:30.760 --> 00:33:31.760 Beans? 00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:33.760 Yeah, beans. 00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:46.000 Yeah, that type of plant. Many years ago, they found that sheep would miscarry if they 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:58.640 grazed on leguminous plants, clover, alfalfa, beans, and peas. All in the plant do have 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:04.160 estrogens that are enough to act as a birth control pill for animals that are sensitive, 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:15.660 such as sheep. But in the bean itself, there are other toxins designed by the plant to 00:34:15.660 --> 00:34:23.840 make them indigestible. So people have developed technologies for cooking them properly. If 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:33.600 you soak them for a day, any grain, if it soaks at room temperature long enough to start 00:34:33.600 --> 00:34:44.480 the sprouting enzymes, those enzymes work similarly to the cow's rumen, activate detoxifying 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:55.400 processes to grow. The plant has to reduce its own toxins and convert them into growth 00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:05.720 proteins. So soaking a bean detoxifies it quite a bit. Then very long cooking until 00:35:05.720 --> 00:35:11.200 it softens further reduces the toxicity of it. 00:35:11.200 --> 00:35:16.800 So there's ways to do the beans and the grains where they're digestible. 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:27.740 Yeah, but they're still a very low-grade protein compared to leaf protein. The quality 00:35:27.740 --> 00:35:38.280 of the protein in leaf is similar to milk or about 70% as perfect as egg yolk protein. 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:46.480 The leaves in milk are similarly high quality. Muscle meat is a little lower quality by most 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:56.200 definitions, but the bean and grain protein, most of them are way down on the scale of 00:35:56.200 --> 00:36:05.920 5% to 10% in quality, meaning that for good muscle building, they function as nothing 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.560 more than energy. Might as well eat sugar as beans. 00:36:09.560 --> 00:36:15.040 Might as well eat sugar. What about, these days you can get some pretty good, very good 00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:22.000 quality grass-fed whey protein. Do you think that's a reasonable food? Powder? 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:32.320 The whey isn't quite as nutritionally balanced and safe as the casein. You separate the milk, 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:39.000 you get different qualities in the different proteins. But yeah, the whey is good quality 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:46.280 protein, but for many purposes, casein is better, the solid part that goes into cheese. 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:52.840 Oh, you mean overall, but you don't think it's a negative thing, a good quality whey 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:54.320 protein for people? 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.840 No, it's a good protein. Compared to beans, it's extremely good. 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:04.240 Yeah. Do you have to, to do the whey proteins, do they have to ferment this at all or do 00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:06.760 they just separate it out? 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:11.920 There are different ways of separating it. I think a lot of it now is done with an acid 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:18.800 treatment rather than having bacteria make the acid. I think they just add an acid to 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.600 cause the curdling and separation. 00:37:21.600 --> 00:37:26.560 Yeah, you want to be careful and warn which ones you get. Does Dr. Peat have any insights 00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:32.240 on leg vascular insufficiency or lipodymia? Oh, we were kind of talking about, thank you 00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:38.640 both for making these shows available. You're welcome. So did we cover the leg vascular 00:37:38.640 --> 00:37:45.520 insufficiency and lipodymia or not? Or is it different from what we were talking about 00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:49.400 20 minutes ago? The edema. 00:37:49.400 --> 00:38:02.280 In the legs in particular? Well, having swelling of the legs and feet, the pressure from the 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:10.160 tissue outside the blood vessels, that simply pushes on the blood vessels and makes it very 00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:19.320 hard for the blood to get through. Just like if you put your hand into a pressure chamber 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:34.080 and applied pressure, when the pressure equaled 150 millimeters of mercury, for example, your 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:39.720 blood pressure wouldn't be sufficient to push the blood through the vessels. And the same 00:38:39.720 --> 00:38:47.000 thing happens when you get swollen tissues around your blood vessels, the swelling pressure 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:54.800 can reach the point that the blood can't get through. So it isn't just a matter of what's 00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:02.480 happening inside the blood vessels. But if you have extremely high fats in your blood, 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:14.120 that does increase the viscosity. If your albumin, it's a very small protein, but interestingly, 00:39:14.120 --> 00:39:22.280 having high albumin increases the fluidity of your blood. Other proteins like fibrinogen 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:36.360 make your blood thicker. So fat and fibrinogen are viscosity increasers. Albumin and salt 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:47.440 make your blood literally more fluid. You can correct the fibrinogen and fat content 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:55.920 by lowering your stress basically. And that includes things like not having an excess 00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:04.480 of phosphate in your diet, making sure your thyroid function and vitamin D levels are 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:13.000 good. Those are the three most neglected anti-stress factors in our culture. 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:23.600 The three again are the low thyroid, low vitamin D, and excess of phosphate. And those guys 00:40:23.600 --> 00:40:32.560 come from the ones before you said, the meat, too much meat, fish. 00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:39.320 And beans and grains are also excessive in phosphate. 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:48.360 Corey Peat is with us, Patrick Timponi, OneRadioNetwork.com. Here is Kevin. He did a PSA test with his 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:55.560 doc and the doc said it's high. And can Dr. Peat give us his opinion on this whole 00:40:55.560 --> 00:41:01.040 PSA testing? Is it viable? And what do I do now? Because he doesn't want to take any 00:41:01.040 --> 00:41:03.820 drugs. 00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:12.120 In the 1980s, they were looking for ways to diagnose prostate cancer and they decided 00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:21.740 that this particular antigen was a sign that something was wrong with the prostate. Actually, 00:41:21.740 --> 00:41:31.680 this particular protein is a defensive reaction to some kind of irritation or problem. It 00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:42.180 happens that cancer does lead to an increase of this protein, but it's a defensive reaction. 00:41:42.180 --> 00:41:50.260 A company several years ago was planning to develop this as a product to sell to treat 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:59.260 prostate cancer because in itself, it has an anti-cancer protective effect. But anyway, 00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:05.740 the main drift of the industry was to use it to diagnose prostate cancer. So it came 00:42:05.740 --> 00:42:18.140 on the market, I think, around 1991. And in the next two or three years, there was approximately 00:42:18.140 --> 00:42:33.120 a 50% increase in the deaths from prostate cancer. And that is a general effect of diagnosis. 00:42:33.120 --> 00:42:44.500 If you're using a treatment that produces some degree of mortality in the process of 00:42:44.500 --> 00:42:54.220 curing the disease, if you suddenly start treating many, many more people, the death 00:42:54.220 --> 00:43:00.060 rate is going to increase. That's what happened. A tremendous surge in the deaths from prostate 00:43:00.060 --> 00:43:12.380 cancer in the early 1990s. In the later 90s, a journalist went to a convention of prostate 00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:19.680 specialists and asked these men who specialized in treating prostate cancer, what would they 00:43:19.680 --> 00:43:28.160 do if they discovered they had prostate cancer? Almost all of them said they would do nothing. 00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:35.420 They were giving estrogen treatment and surgery to their patients, but they knew that they 00:43:35.420 --> 00:43:41.820 were not curing prostate cancer. So they said if they had it, they would not treat the prostate 00:43:41.820 --> 00:43:53.700 cancer. And around the beginning of this century, that became public, and the idea spread, watchful 00:43:53.700 --> 00:44:01.260 waiting after the diagnosis. In other words, not treating, not using estrogen and surgery 00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:10.740 just because you have prostate cancer. And so then the mortality rate dropped. It's okay 00:44:10.740 --> 00:44:13.340 to diagnose it if you don't treat it. 00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:20.820 Yeah, it's interesting. What's the connection between pumpkin seeds, zinc, and prostate 00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:25.860 that's been touted to be a good thing to help the guys keep Mr. Prostate strong? Something 00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:28.460 to that? 00:44:28.460 --> 00:44:37.460 Usually people eat their pumpkin seeds well salted, and I think increasing salt for many 00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:46.220 people is an extremely beneficial thing. Years ago, when I read about the effects of pregnant 00:44:46.220 --> 00:44:53.380 women curing their toxemia by eating a lot of extra salt, I knew a lot of women who had 00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:59.660 premenstrual syndrome, and they would have swelling for a couple of weeks. They would 00:44:59.660 --> 00:45:07.020 swell up and get irritable, and they would crave salt. But they all said that they knew 00:45:07.020 --> 00:45:13.060 salt would cause water retention. So even though they craved it tremendously premenstrually, 00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:18.540 they decided that they shouldn't eat it, but still they swelled up. And I told them about 00:45:18.540 --> 00:45:26.260 the pregnant women and said, "Why not eat the salt that you crave?" And the very first 00:45:26.260 --> 00:45:34.580 cycle that they simply ate as much salt as they craved, and they didn't swell up. Over 00:45:34.580 --> 00:45:42.100 several years, I saw that happen over and over. If they followed their tastes, their 00:45:42.100 --> 00:45:50.260 premenstrual symptoms were tremendously reduced. So I knew some old people who were told to 00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:58.620 restrict their salt. Invariably, they developed insomnia when they stopped eating the salt 00:45:58.620 --> 00:46:07.260 that they craved, and their blood pressure was not cured. I told some of my friends about 00:46:07.260 --> 00:46:14.380 the experience of the women with PMS and the pregnant women, and a couple of my old friends 00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:23.780 tried disobeying their doctors and salting their food as their taste indicated, and their 00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:25.340 insomnia was cured. 00:46:25.340 --> 00:46:30.820 Very interesting. So this craving, and I know personally, I do, and I know other people 00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:37.180 that crave salt, is it generally we really need it because we kind of crave it? We want 00:46:37.180 --> 00:46:41.820 a little bit more on this particular food? And how would we know if we're getting just 00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:45.660 too much and we're kind of, the craving has turned into a, I don't know, just some kind 00:46:45.660 --> 00:46:51.420 of habit or some kind of a, you know, something that's out of balance? 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:58.060 Generally people's thyroid function decreases with aging or with stress. And when your thyroid 00:46:58.060 --> 00:47:06.900 is low, you don't retain salt properly. You lose salt in your urine very easily when your 00:47:06.900 --> 00:47:17.460 thyroid is low. And when you lose the sodium, your aldosterone increases. Aldosterone causes 00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:24.780 increased blood pressure, and over time it causes fibrosis and degeneration of the blood 00:47:24.780 --> 00:47:32.980 vessels and heart. So low thyroid leads to these heart disease conditions, largely because 00:47:32.980 --> 00:47:38.260 of the salt loss causing aldosterone to increase. 00:47:38.260 --> 00:47:45.260 When I worked in the woods, we had a cook who was a fanatic. He knew people lost salt 00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:51.620 when they sweated, so he would put a tablespoon of salt in our morning porridge, and he wouldn't 00:47:51.620 --> 00:47:57.500 give us our ham and eggs if we didn't eat our porridge. And so everyone would gag down 00:47:57.500 --> 00:48:05.300 the salt. And then they gave us a bottle of salt pills to take because we would sweat. 00:48:05.300 --> 00:48:14.700 I would get white salt crystals on my eyebrows and arm hairs. The body adapts by lowering 00:48:14.700 --> 00:48:23.980 the aldosterone so that the salt is lost easily, and it even comes out abundantly in your sweat. 00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:31.420 But then you lose the salt in just a few hours, and so you need the salt pills to prevent 00:48:31.420 --> 00:48:38.180 fainting. After a week of that, having to eat salt pills in the afternoon after having 00:48:38.180 --> 00:48:46.820 a tablespoon for breakfast, I got the idea that the body was adjusting. So I told the 00:48:46.820 --> 00:48:53.420 cook over the weekend that I had seen a doctor who told me to go on a low-salt diet. So from 00:48:53.420 --> 00:49:01.420 then on, I got porridge without the toxic dose of salt. And immediately that week, I 00:49:01.420 --> 00:49:12.340 stopped sweating crystal and salt. So that was my first endocrine experiment on myself. 00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:20.420 The adrenals adjust very quickly. But the background to that is that aging lowers your 00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:30.100 thyroid function, and your thyroid deficiency causes you to lose sodium. So the craving 00:49:30.100 --> 00:49:39.620 in most people is a very biological thing. But you could correct it by correcting your 00:49:39.620 --> 00:49:45.060 thyroid function, which makes you retain salt efficiently so you don't need to eat so 00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:46.060 much. 00:49:46.060 --> 00:49:51.500 So people like myself and others who do a lot of saunas, I do a sauna almost every day 00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:55.980 and I sweat a lot. That would be another reason why I would crave the salt, if I'm losing 00:49:55.980 --> 00:49:56.980 it through my sweat. 00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:57.980 Yeah. 00:49:57.980 --> 00:49:58.980 Right? 00:49:58.980 --> 00:49:59.980 Yeah. 00:49:59.980 --> 00:50:05.980 So when you sweat like that in saunas, is it the salt you really need? People talk about 00:50:05.980 --> 00:50:11.860 electrolytes. What's the difference between salts and electrolytes? 00:50:11.860 --> 00:50:24.140 The main electrolytes are salt and the minor ones, potassium, magnesium, calcium. The main 00:50:24.140 --> 00:50:35.060 one in the blood is sodium and a moderate amount of calcium and potassium and magnesium. 00:50:35.060 --> 00:50:42.860 But sodium is the one that is most often correctable. 00:50:42.860 --> 00:50:50.220 But you can take electrolytes or things, right, extra if you need to. 00:50:50.220 --> 00:50:59.660 Yeah. It's good to have a generous amount of all of them. If they're pure, they regulate 00:50:59.660 --> 00:51:11.700 themselves so you can eat a huge amount of extra calcium, magnesium and potassium. If 00:51:11.700 --> 00:51:18.540 you took a lot of potassium all at once, it could stop your heart and too much magnesium 00:51:18.540 --> 00:51:25.860 can make you unconscious. It has been used intravenously as an anesthetic. But when you 00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:35.540 take them orally, your body adjusts them so it isn't a matter of having the right proportion 00:51:35.540 --> 00:51:39.060 going in. Your body can do the sorting. 00:51:39.060 --> 00:51:43.820 Do you know that little, that company, what is it, the Electro-Mix, you know, the little 00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:48.220 emergency, you know, those little packages. Do you think those are reasonable? Do you 00:51:48.220 --> 00:51:54.380 know that product? I think they call it Electro-Mix, the electrolytes. Do you know those? 00:51:54.380 --> 00:52:02.260 Those are all basically beneficial if they aren't contaminated somewhere along the line. 00:52:02.260 --> 00:52:04.820 Who knows about that, right? 00:52:04.820 --> 00:52:10.620 This is from a fellow in Switzerland. Oh, hi there in Switzerland. What laboratory test 00:52:10.620 --> 00:52:15.980 would Dr. Peat advise for a good health assessment? Would the following markers be a reasonable 00:52:15.980 --> 00:52:24.540 choice for a middle-aged man to do the TSH, T3, T4, prolactin, DHEA, testosterone, cortisol? 00:52:24.540 --> 00:52:31.140 So he's asking about all these different tests for vitamin A, vitamin D. Talk a bit about 00:52:31.140 --> 00:52:34.300 people can do blood tests, some of the key things that they might want to do to help 00:52:34.300 --> 00:52:37.380 this fellow and others. 00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:50.380 Doctors are often reluctant to follow the patient's interests, giving DHEA, even TSH, 00:52:50.380 --> 00:52:57.700 they're sometimes reluctant to do often enough. Vitamin D should be done pretty regularly 00:52:57.700 --> 00:53:08.140 if you live in a northern or temperate climate where you don't get sun all year round. There 00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:20.700 are some tests that are very rarely done routinely. Free fatty acids are extremely important. 00:53:20.700 --> 00:53:30.100 Stress will increase the free fatty acids. The most common tests that people benefit 00:53:30.100 --> 00:53:40.340 from are the ones you mentioned, progesterone, DHEA, pregnenolone, testosterone, TSH and 00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:47.820 the thyroid hormones. Prolactin is a pretty good indicator of stress and imbalance when 00:53:47.820 --> 00:53:50.820 it rises. 00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:56.100 And then of course you got the fibrogen in the A1c, the kind of classics, those are good 00:53:56.100 --> 00:54:00.300 markers of potential problems? 00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:05.540 Lactic acid in the blood is another thing that should be done more often because a lot 00:54:05.540 --> 00:54:13.660 of people, because of stress or hypothyroidism or nutritional imbalance, will chronically 00:54:13.660 --> 00:54:24.340 have more lactic, even though it isn't recognized as acidosis, a rise in lactic acid is a good 00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:27.500 indicator of something going wrong in your body. 00:54:27.500 --> 00:54:31.500 So the ones you mentioned that are good to know, free fatty acids, prolactin, lactic 00:54:31.500 --> 00:54:36.980 acids, what are some of the other ones that you said? 00:54:36.980 --> 00:54:50.060 Well, the balance of calcium and phosphate will show up if you test the parathyroid hormone. 00:54:50.060 --> 00:54:58.180 That is reflecting your status of phosphate, calcium and vitamin D. 00:54:58.180 --> 00:55:01.660 And that's part of the thyroid panel? 00:55:01.660 --> 00:55:10.260 No, it's rarely done, it's extremely relevant to your general health. 00:55:10.260 --> 00:55:15.220 Your heart health is powerfully influenced by parathyroid hormone. 00:55:15.220 --> 00:55:18.140 So you can actually test for that? 00:55:18.140 --> 00:55:19.460 Yeah. 00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:28.020 Now, so would some of these generally ban if somebody has a really broad spectrum test 00:55:28.020 --> 00:55:33.260 done, we have a fellow that we're working with, he does a 52 marker test, Dr. Lewis, 00:55:33.260 --> 00:55:34.260 52. 00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:39.340 Would they be in, or would you have to ask the special generally, the ones that you mentioned, 00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:43.340 parathyroid, lactic acid, prolactin, or these would be special requests and add-ons? 00:55:43.340 --> 00:55:53.900 Yeah, unfortunately, some labs cost hugely for those specialized tests. 00:55:53.900 --> 00:56:01.060 The Life Extension Foundation now has a deal with labs around the country and in the spring, 00:56:01.060 --> 00:56:07.860 they have extremely good prices on panels, hormone panels and some general panels. 00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:15.500 But I don't think they're yet doing some of the very important tests like lactic acid, 00:56:15.500 --> 00:56:19.060 free fatty acids and parathyroid hormone. 00:56:19.060 --> 00:56:20.060 That's very interesting. 00:56:20.060 --> 00:56:21.860 Yeah, a little plug here for Dr. Lewis. 00:56:21.860 --> 00:56:25.940 We have an ad on the front page and you all can go on there free, take a little quiz. 00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:30.140 Then if you want to connect up with him, he'll do a 52 marker. 00:56:30.140 --> 00:56:36.300 I think it's worth like 350 bucks plus an hour consultation to read and to interpret 00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:40.860 the labs and that's worth 350 right there to most docs. 00:56:40.860 --> 00:56:42.960 So you might want to consider doing that. 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:44.460 And then, yeah, ask him about these. 00:56:44.460 --> 00:56:47.500 I've never heard of some of these parathyroid. 00:56:47.500 --> 00:56:48.500 Wow. 00:56:48.500 --> 00:56:51.540 The parathyroid hormone again, Dr. Peat? 00:56:51.540 --> 00:56:55.420 What does that tell us if we get that tested? 00:56:55.420 --> 00:57:04.260 It is increased when you're deficient in calcium or vitamin D or have an excess of phosphate. 00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:12.980 And the parathyroid hormone happens to work closely with the aldosterone of the adrenals. 00:57:12.980 --> 00:57:23.420 So it responds to thyroid function and adrenal function and parathyroid hormone like aldosterone 00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:30.180 poisons the function of your mitochondria all through your system. 00:57:30.180 --> 00:57:37.700 The mitochondrial respiration falls as your parathyroid hormone and aldosterone rise. 00:57:37.700 --> 00:57:38.700 Something happened to your phone. 00:57:38.700 --> 00:57:42.460 It seems like it lost a little volume and clicked on there. 00:57:42.460 --> 00:57:43.460 Nothing? 00:57:43.460 --> 00:57:44.460 Yes. 00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:45.460 Oh, there you go. 00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:46.460 You hear that? 00:57:46.460 --> 00:57:48.460 There was an echo in the profile. 00:57:48.460 --> 00:57:49.460 Okay, there we go. 00:57:49.460 --> 00:57:50.460 What is Dr. Peat? 00:57:50.460 --> 00:57:56.220 Here's another email for Dr. Ray Peat, Patrick Timpani, oneradionetwork.com, May 21st. 00:57:56.220 --> 00:58:00.420 James Corbett will be here tomorrow for Tinfoil Hat Wednesday. 00:58:00.420 --> 00:58:01.420 He's out of Japan. 00:58:01.420 --> 00:58:02.420 He's really a trip. 00:58:02.420 --> 00:58:03.940 You'll enjoy hearing some of the things. 00:58:03.940 --> 00:58:07.820 We'll talk about all the geopolitics in the world and some of the more spooky things going 00:58:07.820 --> 00:58:10.740 on with Tinfoil Hat Wednesday tomorrow. 00:58:10.740 --> 00:58:15.820 Does Dr. Peat think there's anything to this more and more people talking about vitamin 00:58:15.820 --> 00:58:17.740 A toxicity? 00:58:17.740 --> 00:58:21.860 Seems to be a new thing that people are kind of clamoring about. 00:58:21.860 --> 00:58:26.300 Anything here we need to look at in your opinion? 00:58:26.300 --> 00:58:38.300 In 1973 and '74, the drug companies were coming out with synthetic vitamin A products. 00:58:38.300 --> 00:58:45.940 They found professors around the country to tell stories. 00:58:45.940 --> 00:58:54.060 One at, I think it was University of Oregon or Washington, put out the story that she 00:58:54.060 --> 00:59:01.620 had seen patients go blind from taking vitamin A. There were several professors with stories 00:59:01.620 --> 00:59:09.980 like that coordinated apparently through the advertising departments of the pharmaceutical 00:59:09.980 --> 00:59:15.180 companies selling synthetic vitamin A. I contacted these professors. 00:59:15.180 --> 00:59:18.700 They wouldn't talk to me. 00:59:18.700 --> 00:59:27.740 It was obviously just made up stories to make people fear vitamin A. One of the popular 00:59:27.740 --> 00:59:36.300 stories is about some explorers who ate polar bear liver and their skin fell off in the 00:59:36.300 --> 00:59:40.100 following days. 00:59:40.100 --> 00:59:45.300 There are lots of toxic things that a polar bear's liver might contain. 00:59:45.300 --> 00:59:51.820 But they chose to blame it on vitamin A. In animal experiments, huge doses that would 00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:59.100 be greater than you could get from polar bear liver never produce symptoms similar to what 00:59:59.100 --> 01:00:03.540 the polar bear liver supposedly caused. 01:00:03.540 --> 01:00:10.300 So there's a history of trying to create panic. 01:00:10.300 --> 01:00:13.900 That's going on with vitamin E. 01:00:13.900 --> 01:00:18.860 People are saying vitamin E causes heart disease and cancer. 01:00:18.860 --> 01:00:25.620 They have products to sell that might cost $1,000 or $10,000 a month. 01:00:25.620 --> 01:00:30.060 They don't want people taking something that costs a dollar a month. 01:00:30.060 --> 01:00:32.900 I wonder what polar bears could eat that might make the livers toxic. 01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:34.820 I mean, it's pretty pristine up there, right? 01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:36.820 No pollution and just fish? 01:00:36.820 --> 01:00:46.380 Yeah, but if there's, for example, an algae bloom that fish have concentrated, the polar 01:00:46.380 --> 01:00:55.940 bear will eat either the fish or seals that have poisoned themselves eating fish that 01:00:55.940 --> 01:00:58.700 have eaten algae. 01:00:58.700 --> 01:01:06.980 The algae toxins are a very good candidate for what got blamed on vitamin A. 01:01:06.980 --> 01:01:13.020 Boy, there's so much stuff in Dr. Peat that if you really dig into the history, like anything 01:01:13.020 --> 01:01:16.540 on planet Earth, it's different from what we've been told. 01:01:16.540 --> 01:01:19.220 I mean, it's just amazing, isn't it? 01:01:19.220 --> 01:01:22.100 Yeah, experiments with baby chicks. 01:01:22.100 --> 01:01:29.340 I think they were giving them something like a million units of vitamin A, which caused 01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:30.940 brain deformity. 01:01:30.940 --> 01:01:38.280 Their brain stuck out of their cranium as they developed. 01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:45.860 But if they gave them a moderate amount of vitamin E, the vitamin A was no longer toxic. 01:01:45.860 --> 01:01:53.620 So what was happening was at a certain very high level, vitamin A auto-catalyzes. 01:01:53.620 --> 01:01:58.940 It stimulates its own oxidation and degradation. 01:01:58.940 --> 01:02:06.500 And the symptoms of vitamin A poisoning become similar to vitamin A deficiency. 01:02:06.500 --> 01:02:12.620 And both of those are prevented by adding vitamin E, which prevents the breakdown. 01:02:12.620 --> 01:02:15.780 Here's an email for you. 01:02:15.780 --> 01:02:22.980 What does Dr. Peat think about reducing endotoxins from gut bacteria by using things like garlic, 01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:31.060 ginger, cloves, black cumin seeds, and things like that? 01:02:31.060 --> 01:02:35.420 They have their own allergens, so you have to be careful. 01:02:35.420 --> 01:02:42.060 They do somewhat suppress bacterial growth, but you have to watch that you aren't adding 01:02:42.060 --> 01:02:47.900 some of these seed-defensive toxins or allergens in the process. 01:02:47.900 --> 01:02:52.940 I think it's safest to use certain fibrous foods. 01:02:52.940 --> 01:03:05.180 For some people, a clean, rinsed bran from wheat or oats is a safe way to stimulate your 01:03:05.180 --> 01:03:08.940 intestine to reduce the endotoxin production. 01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:22.020 A cooked mushroom or bamboo shoot, these organisms have antibacterial chemicals built into the 01:03:22.020 --> 01:03:29.980 organism so that they will not only act as a fiber and a bulker, but they will chemically 01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:33.060 reduce the bacterial population. 01:03:33.060 --> 01:03:35.100 Raw carrot is another thing. 01:03:35.100 --> 01:03:44.180 The carrot grows in a very microorganism-rich environment of fungus and bacteria, and raw 01:03:44.180 --> 01:03:48.900 carrot will powerfully reduce the endotoxin production. 01:03:48.900 --> 01:03:50.380 That's why you like the carrot salads. 01:03:50.380 --> 01:03:54.340 You like the grated carrots right at night. 01:03:54.340 --> 01:04:01.860 And olive oil and vinegar are both bactericidal, so a good dressing, oil and vinegar with some 01:04:01.860 --> 01:04:08.100 salt makes the carrot more effective and tasty. 01:04:08.100 --> 01:04:13.900 So bamboo shoots, the only thing I've ever seen there in oil in restaurants are the bamboo 01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:15.380 shoots you get in a can. 01:04:15.380 --> 01:04:16.380 That's not what we're talking about. 01:04:16.380 --> 01:04:21.820 Can you get really fun, good-backed bamboo shoots somewhere? 01:04:21.820 --> 01:04:27.180 Only in places like Chinatown in San Francisco or New York. 01:04:27.180 --> 01:04:36.700 The canned ones, you can get a quart or two-quart can of cooked bamboo shoots, and I always 01:04:36.700 --> 01:04:44.740 boil them for a minute or two to eliminate any metal from the can. 01:04:44.740 --> 01:04:51.980 But then if you make a sauce, for example, cheese and egg sauce, they can be a very tasty 01:04:51.980 --> 01:04:52.980 dish. 01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:56.220 And they're good for you, these little bamboo shoots. 01:04:56.220 --> 01:04:59.580 So here's an email from Adam Bergstrom. 01:04:59.580 --> 01:05:02.340 You know Adam, he was on the show with us one time. 01:05:02.340 --> 01:05:08.460 He says, "Accelerated lipofuscin accumulation and oxidative stress are definitely involved 01:05:08.460 --> 01:05:10.340 in autism. 01:05:10.340 --> 01:05:17.340 Does the oxidative stress cause the lipofuscin accumulation, or is it the other way around, 01:05:17.340 --> 01:05:19.940 in your opinion?" 01:05:19.940 --> 01:05:21.620 It's both. 01:05:21.620 --> 01:05:33.180 When lipofuscin lowers the oxygen tension, it acts as a catalyst, taking fuel directly 01:05:33.180 --> 01:05:37.860 to oxygen and creating an oxygen deficiency. 01:05:37.860 --> 01:05:47.620 And that oxygen deficiency imitates what happens under stress or in the presence of estrogen. 01:05:47.620 --> 01:05:58.420 The low oxygen creates the catalytic condition to further degrade any polyunsaturated fat 01:05:58.420 --> 01:06:00.500 that's in the environment. 01:06:00.500 --> 01:06:04.900 And vitamin A can contribute to that. 01:06:04.900 --> 01:06:14.180 An excess of vitamin A without E interacts with the fish oil or other unsaturated fat 01:06:14.180 --> 01:06:19.020 to lead to the accelerated production of lipofuscin. 01:06:19.020 --> 01:06:25.220 Oh, so the E helps with lipofuscin if you're going to do some poofers or something. 01:06:25.220 --> 01:06:27.140 Yeah, it's the main... 01:06:27.140 --> 01:06:34.540 That was one of the things that led to vitamin E research was discovering that it prevented 01:06:34.540 --> 01:06:43.260 lipofuscin and the brain toxic effects and testosterone suppressing effects and so on. 01:06:43.260 --> 01:06:49.460 So, would your fave be then one of those like mixed tocopherol kind of vitamins? 01:06:49.460 --> 01:06:53.580 Yeah, I think the mixed product is the best. 01:06:53.580 --> 01:06:59.740 Can Dr. Peat tell us how much or is sauerkraut really good to consume on a regular basis, 01:06:59.740 --> 01:07:03.180 good for gut health, sauerkraut? 01:07:03.180 --> 01:07:07.380 The salt in it is, I think, the main virtue. 01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:08.380 Just the salt? 01:07:08.380 --> 01:07:09.380 Yeah. 01:07:09.380 --> 01:07:10.380 How about the... 01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:16.540 The saltiness of it, it's okay, but I don't think it's a health food. 01:07:16.540 --> 01:07:22.340 Would soaking wheat, I'll write an email, work for making healthier bread, soaking the 01:07:22.340 --> 01:07:23.340 wheat? 01:07:23.340 --> 01:07:24.340 Definitely. 01:07:24.340 --> 01:07:25.340 Yeah. 01:07:25.340 --> 01:07:27.580 I was a bread maker when I was in graduate school. 01:07:27.580 --> 01:07:28.580 Oh, you were? 01:07:28.580 --> 01:07:29.580 Yeah. 01:07:29.580 --> 01:07:36.420 And I experimented letting it soak for 12 to 24 hours. 01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:44.060 And I found that ordinary bakery bread would cause gas, just a slice of it would disturb 01:07:44.060 --> 01:07:51.700 my sleep, but I could eat a whole loaf of my homemade bread with no digestive problem 01:07:51.700 --> 01:07:52.700 at all. 01:07:52.700 --> 01:07:53.700 And what did you do? 01:07:53.700 --> 01:07:54.700 Was it a sourdough? 01:07:54.700 --> 01:07:57.180 You had no starter? 01:07:57.180 --> 01:07:59.540 It was just what came out of the air. 01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:01.280 Yeah, I think, yeah. 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:05.740 Good luck getting the right kind of yeast out of the air. 01:08:05.740 --> 01:08:14.900 But just the soaking activates enzymes and the actual protein value where wheat has extremely 01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:20.860 low value protein because of the storage gluten. 01:08:20.860 --> 01:08:28.420 Gluten doesn't have great nutritional value, but when it soaks, the enzymes turn it into 01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:38.100 growth proteins and more than double the actual protein value so that you're getting actually 01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:42.100 some valuable protein in your bread when it's soaked properly. 01:08:42.100 --> 01:08:47.140 And these days you can even get the original organic einkorn wheat, you know, the old stuff, 01:08:47.140 --> 01:08:48.500 the old heritage wheat. 01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:51.620 You can actually get that now at Whole Foods. 01:08:51.620 --> 01:08:56.180 A lady, a friend of mine out of Italy is producing that. 01:08:56.180 --> 01:08:57.900 She taught farm. 01:08:57.900 --> 01:09:06.340 The protein quality of the older seeds sometimes is significantly higher than current. 01:09:06.340 --> 01:09:08.500 She found the seeds and talked some farmers into growing it. 01:09:08.500 --> 01:09:10.860 It's called einkorn. 01:09:10.860 --> 01:09:14.540 She had kids that were having a hard time with all the gluten, you know, the whole gluten 01:09:14.540 --> 01:09:16.260 sensitivity thing. 01:09:16.260 --> 01:09:17.260 They do fine. 01:09:17.260 --> 01:09:18.260 She's a bedbreaker. 01:09:18.260 --> 01:09:21.420 So they do fine with this einkorn. 01:09:21.420 --> 01:09:22.420 Very interesting. 01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:27.180 There must be something with this new wheat on all this gluten stuff, huh? 01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:30.100 Hybridization and all that? 01:09:30.100 --> 01:09:35.420 Yeah, it makes bread lighter. 01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:42.900 If you're going to make bread in a factory quickly without leavening it the natural way, 01:09:42.900 --> 01:09:52.740 the gluten has a rubbery quality that makes it possible to inflate the loaf and have a 01:09:52.740 --> 01:09:55.620 rubbery texture. 01:09:55.620 --> 01:10:03.180 When the grain is soaked so that it's nutritionally more valuable, it loses that rubbery quality 01:10:03.180 --> 01:10:10.140 and you get a denser moisture tending to crumble bread. 01:10:10.140 --> 01:10:12.580 So it isn't popular in the supermarkets. 01:10:12.580 --> 01:10:16.820 A few more here and then we'll let you go to work. 01:10:16.820 --> 01:10:22.380 Does Dr. Peat think that there is a fungal connection to prostate cancer and/or breast 01:10:22.380 --> 01:10:23.380 cancer? 01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:35.340 Most tumors contain fungus just because the immune system is deranged and you'll find 01:10:35.340 --> 01:10:39.820 lots of junk contributing. 01:10:39.820 --> 01:10:47.140 The fungus produces estrogen, for example, but the cancer cells themselves are producing 01:10:47.140 --> 01:11:00.700 estrogen stimulating their own growth and I think the risk, the seriousness of a cancer 01:11:00.700 --> 01:11:07.500 increases the likelihood of finding fungus in it. 01:11:07.500 --> 01:11:13.820 There seems to be a lot going on with the prostate and the testing and they're doing 01:11:13.820 --> 01:11:20.420 it for the breast cancer too and hasn't the science shown that the more you mess around 01:11:20.420 --> 01:11:27.620 with these things, these lumps and all that, the worse it is? 01:11:27.620 --> 01:11:37.700 Doing a biopsy, if you believe that the cancer is a mutant cell that is following its own 01:11:37.700 --> 01:11:45.620 internal rules, biopsy and chemotherapy and radiation and surgery all seem logical, but 01:11:45.620 --> 01:11:53.740 if you think of the cancer as a product of something going wrong in the organism that 01:11:53.740 --> 01:12:04.340 is failing to heal a wound, if you see the tumor as a wound which is not healing properly, 01:12:04.340 --> 01:12:11.940 then when you mess with it, you're adding to the problems of the organism rather than 01:12:11.940 --> 01:12:14.020 solving the organism's problem. 01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:21.900 So if you think of the tumor as a wound, flesh that out a little bit, that's interesting. 01:12:21.900 --> 01:12:24.540 Talk a little bit more about that idea. 01:12:24.540 --> 01:12:32.940 When you look at a healing wound, there was an article in JAMA about 50 years ago showing 01:12:32.940 --> 01:12:42.820 that doing a biopsy of a normal wound, just a stab wound or something, as the tissue heals, 01:12:42.820 --> 01:12:51.140 doing the pathology, doing a slice of the tissue, any stage of a healing wound can be 01:12:51.140 --> 01:12:56.460 identical in structure to a cancer. 01:12:56.460 --> 01:13:00.380 A pathologist would say, "Yeah, these are cancer cells. 01:13:00.380 --> 01:13:08.340 They have all the properties of occasional abnormal cell division. 01:13:08.340 --> 01:13:12.660 The ratio of cytoplasm in the nucleus is low. 01:13:12.660 --> 01:13:14.580 It's invasive structurally." 01:13:14.580 --> 01:13:22.540 That's part of a normal wound healing process, but the problem is that the cancer lacks something 01:13:22.540 --> 01:13:31.900 to get beyond that stage of healing, and so it just keeps growing without resolving the 01:13:31.900 --> 01:13:32.900 wound. 01:13:32.900 --> 01:13:38.300 It doesn't create an organized tissue because something is lacking in the system. 01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:39.300 So the body's... 01:13:39.300 --> 01:13:46.340 It sounds like the body's trying to heal when these cancer cells are getting together, in 01:13:46.340 --> 01:13:47.980 a way. 01:13:47.980 --> 01:13:48.980 Yeah. 01:13:48.980 --> 01:13:55.140 You can find quite a bit of research on that, but it isn't popular. 01:13:55.140 --> 01:14:03.740 The medical business is invested in their super-expensive chemotherapies and their radiation 01:14:03.740 --> 01:14:12.900 equipment, ion beam machines that cost millions of dollars, and it's not good for their investment 01:14:12.900 --> 01:14:17.620 to question whether the whole theory of cancer is right or not. 01:14:17.620 --> 01:14:24.220 When you say this organism that's sometimes called a tumor that's trying to heal, it's 01:14:24.220 --> 01:14:25.260 lacking in something. 01:14:25.260 --> 01:14:27.460 Do we know what it's lacking in? 01:14:27.460 --> 01:14:29.460 For one thing, carbon dioxide. 01:14:29.460 --> 01:14:38.340 The person who asked about a fungus probably had heard about Simoncini in Italy. 01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:48.060 And baking soda, interestingly, very often does provide what the tumor lacks to be able 01:14:48.060 --> 01:14:59.260 to heal, but carbon dioxide is what the baking soda is providing, sodium plus carbon dioxide. 01:14:59.260 --> 01:15:08.100 And in the 18th century, people were already experimenting. 01:15:08.100 --> 01:15:14.540 The discovery of carbonated water, partly it was closely related to the observation 01:15:14.540 --> 01:15:22.740 that carbon dioxide helps with cancer, and people were already seeing great improvement, 01:15:22.740 --> 01:15:29.740 for example, in breast cancer just by exposing it to carbon dioxide. 01:15:29.740 --> 01:15:36.940 There's a book that reviews the history of treating cancer with carbon dioxide, for example, 01:15:36.940 --> 01:15:44.220 carbon dioxide enemas, or breathing carbon dioxide, or sitting in a bag full of carbon 01:15:44.220 --> 01:15:48.460 dioxide to absorb it through the skin. 01:15:48.460 --> 01:15:56.820 When you're under stress, the characteristic feature of cancer identified by Otto Warburg 01:15:56.820 --> 01:16:05.420 a hundred years ago is that it can't stop producing lactic acid, which is normal in 01:16:05.420 --> 01:16:16.740 an injury, but the injured tissue producing lactic acid stimulates its own growth, which 01:16:16.740 --> 01:16:26.220 is good for the healing process, but at some point the lactic acid has to stop to allow 01:16:26.220 --> 01:16:30.140 maturing of the tissue rather than continued growth. 01:16:30.140 --> 01:16:38.580 Carbon dioxide is the feature produced by the respiring mitochondria, which should turn 01:16:38.580 --> 01:16:46.940 off lactic acid, but if something is limiting your ability to produce and retain carbon 01:16:46.940 --> 01:16:52.340 dioxide, then you can't turn off lactic acid. 01:16:52.340 --> 01:17:03.420 And Simoncini's baking soda sometimes provided enough sodium and bicarbonate or carbon dioxide 01:17:03.420 --> 01:17:08.300 to suppress the lactic acid and allow healing to proceed. 01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:15.540 And do we know why this carbon dioxide process sometimes lowered? 01:17:15.540 --> 01:17:24.820 Low thyroid, low calcium, low vitamin D, low sodium are all factors in limiting the ability 01:17:24.820 --> 01:17:27.740 to make enough carbon dioxide. 01:17:27.740 --> 01:17:32.020 Would it be reasonable, folks, every now and then, to take a little teaspoon of baking 01:17:32.020 --> 01:17:33.020 soda? 01:17:33.020 --> 01:17:35.020 I mean, would it be okay? 01:17:35.020 --> 01:17:36.020 Or help? 01:17:36.020 --> 01:17:42.860 Well, athletes find that their endurance is greatly increased with typical doses of 01:17:42.860 --> 01:17:48.180 a tablespoon of baking soda at the start of an endurance race. 01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:49.660 That's a lot, a tablespoon. 01:17:49.660 --> 01:17:52.220 That's going to taste really, whew, man. 01:17:52.220 --> 01:17:59.620 Yeah, but even a fourth of a teaspoon of water can make a big difference in how a person 01:17:59.620 --> 01:18:00.620 feels. 01:18:00.620 --> 01:18:08.220 I've known people who always got swollen feet on an airplane trip. 01:18:08.220 --> 01:18:16.420 Taking a spoonful of soda in water, they found that they didn't have the swollen feet. 01:18:16.420 --> 01:18:20.300 What's going on there? 01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:29.140 When you take in the baking soda, your kidneys quickly get rid of any excess sodium that 01:18:29.140 --> 01:18:39.340 you don't need, but the bicarbonate is able to be turned when it meets a cell. 01:18:39.340 --> 01:18:48.020 Enzymes turn it quickly into carbon dioxide, which is acidic, and the acidic cell quiets 01:18:48.020 --> 01:18:54.060 down and stops making so much lactic acid. 01:18:54.060 --> 01:19:03.420 The formation of lactic acid makes the cell alkaline, and the baking soda provides the 01:19:03.420 --> 01:19:09.580 carbon dioxide that will reacidify the cell and stop it from producing the lactic acid. 01:19:09.580 --> 01:19:11.580 Oh, very interesting. 01:19:11.580 --> 01:19:15.140 But you wouldn't want to do that, I guess, around food time, because it doesn't dilute 01:19:15.140 --> 01:19:18.660 the stomach acid, too? 01:19:18.660 --> 01:19:20.940 The stomach usually can quickly adjust. 01:19:20.940 --> 01:19:21.940 Make some more. 01:19:21.940 --> 01:19:30.940 It's very powerful at producing acid and removing excess alkaline. 01:19:30.940 --> 01:19:37.060 Does stomach acid increase with stress or decrease? 01:19:37.060 --> 01:19:40.220 It depends on the person. 01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:41.700 Oh, right. 01:19:41.700 --> 01:19:50.100 It could go either way. 01:19:50.100 --> 01:19:54.460 Please ask Dr. Peed, what about A1 versus A2 casein milk? 01:19:54.460 --> 01:19:56.660 Is there a difference there? 01:19:56.660 --> 01:20:05.580 There is a difference, but I've never seen any research that really makes a convincing 01:20:05.580 --> 01:20:11.380 case that it's important for the health. 01:20:11.380 --> 01:20:20.300 The peptides do differ, and the peptides do have different effects, but our digestive 01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:26.860 systems are usually so efficient that we don't notice any effect. 01:20:26.860 --> 01:20:33.580 It breaks down right to amino acids, which have none of that endocrine effect. 01:20:33.580 --> 01:20:35.780 They're out there actually selling A2 milk now. 01:20:35.780 --> 01:20:38.780 Have you seen that on the shelves, or A2? 01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:43.100 It's a whole marketing thing now. 01:20:43.100 --> 01:20:53.180 Are the new digital x-rays significantly less dangerous than the older guys, or more? 01:20:53.180 --> 01:21:00.740 What they're meaning is that they have a more sensitive way of registering the x-rays, 01:21:00.740 --> 01:21:10.740 the same old x-rays, but they're claiming that their new machinery can make smaller 01:21:10.740 --> 01:21:11.740 doses. 01:21:11.740 --> 01:21:20.060 In effect, in practice, what they're doing is making more pictures, and it turns out 01:21:20.060 --> 01:21:27.940 that the exposure per visit to dentists is likely to be just about the same, because 01:21:27.940 --> 01:21:34.460 they're so enthusiastic about making more pictures. 01:21:34.460 --> 01:21:37.740 What about this thing that was really popular over the years? 01:21:37.740 --> 01:21:38.740 I don't know. 01:21:38.740 --> 01:21:43.020 I don't hear about it much more, but they were really promoting a lot on radio where 01:21:43.020 --> 01:21:51.220 you take a picture of your chest and look at all the calcium in your arteries. 01:21:51.220 --> 01:21:52.220 What's the name of that? 01:21:52.220 --> 01:21:55.740 Do you know which one I'm talking about? 01:21:55.740 --> 01:21:58.540 High energy, a lot of big, strong x-rays. 01:21:58.540 --> 01:22:09.420 Yeah, CAT scans is one way of doing it. 01:22:09.420 --> 01:22:16.700 It's well established that medical x-rays are a major cause of heart disease as well 01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:20.940 as breast cancer. 01:22:20.940 --> 01:22:29.980 The areas that have the best medical care, the area around San Francisco and California, 01:22:29.980 --> 01:22:39.780 a very high-income area, have the country's highest incidence of breast cancer. 01:22:39.780 --> 01:22:47.340 West Virginia has very poor medical care, so-called, but also the lowest breast cancer 01:22:47.340 --> 01:22:48.340 mortality. 01:22:48.340 --> 01:22:57.780 Very good evidence that heart disease as well as breast cancer is caused by medical x-rays. 01:22:57.780 --> 01:23:00.380 The term I was thinking of, Dr. Peat, CT scans. 01:23:00.380 --> 01:23:03.500 They're very popular, very inexpensive, right? 01:23:03.500 --> 01:23:04.500 Yeah. 01:23:04.500 --> 01:23:08.740 They deliver hundreds of times more radiation than a chest x-ray. 01:23:08.740 --> 01:23:11.260 Yeah, a lot. 01:23:11.260 --> 01:23:16.100 More and more people have been exposed in the last 10 or 15 years. 01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:21.140 You can go in some malls and get a CT scan. 01:23:21.140 --> 01:23:22.140 In a mall? 01:23:22.140 --> 01:23:24.940 In a mall. 01:23:24.940 --> 01:23:25.940 Here's an email from Jill. 01:23:25.940 --> 01:23:33.500 "If someone has a problem converting T4 to T3 and has slightly high reverse T3, are they 01:23:33.500 --> 01:23:36.220 better off taking Armour or Cytomel? 01:23:36.220 --> 01:23:41.140 I started Cytomel at 5 milligrams, but starting getting headaches, my doctor wants me to switch 01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:44.060 to Armour." 01:23:44.060 --> 01:23:55.340 For most people, the combination products such as Armour are very good, reliable, the 01:23:55.340 --> 01:24:00.180 dose can be adjusted if you are watchful. 01:24:00.180 --> 01:24:09.180 Women have been known to have at least five times as much thyroid disease as men because 01:24:09.180 --> 01:24:17.420 estrogen interferes with the function of thyroid at every level, at the gland and at the transport 01:24:17.420 --> 01:24:20.380 and at the cellular response level. 01:24:20.380 --> 01:24:27.500 One of the things it does is increase cortisol and the stress hormones, and that interferes 01:24:27.500 --> 01:24:31.820 with the conversion of thyroxine to T3. 01:24:31.820 --> 01:24:39.420 So women are much more likely than men to have a T3 deficiency. 01:24:39.420 --> 01:24:48.340 Forty-five years ago when I was teaching endocrinology, there was a woman at the University of Oregon 01:24:48.340 --> 01:24:57.660 Hospital brought in unconscious from a myxedema coma, they called it. 01:24:57.660 --> 01:25:04.380 Her doctor had started her on 100 micrograms of thyroxine. 01:25:04.380 --> 01:25:06.180 That wasn't enough for her symptoms. 01:25:06.180 --> 01:25:08.180 He increased it gradually. 01:25:08.180 --> 01:25:12.260 At 500 micrograms, she went into a coma. 01:25:12.260 --> 01:25:20.500 In the hospital, they discovered she had essentially zero active T3 hormone. 01:25:20.500 --> 01:25:30.860 The pituitary had been suppressed by the high dose of thyroxine and the pituitary is able 01:25:30.860 --> 01:25:38.900 to activate the conversion, but with the resulting high estrogen and high cortisol, the conversion 01:25:38.900 --> 01:25:40.380 was blocked. 01:25:40.380 --> 01:25:47.540 So they gave her intravenous T3 and immediately she came out of the coma and was well. 01:25:47.540 --> 01:25:51.660 But it's very common. 01:25:51.660 --> 01:26:00.340 You could say that practically all of the women with a thyroid problem are deficient 01:26:00.340 --> 01:26:05.900 in T3 because of that effect of estrogen blocking the conversion. 01:26:05.900 --> 01:26:11.540 And so they could maybe experiment with a little bit of progesterone and the wild yam 01:26:11.540 --> 01:26:14.940 thing to do, would that help? 01:26:14.940 --> 01:26:15.940 Yes. 01:26:15.940 --> 01:26:28.660 The progesterone blocks the formation of estrogen and also blocks the antithyroid effect of 01:26:28.660 --> 01:26:31.180 cortisol. 01:26:31.180 --> 01:26:35.860 Estrogen increases cortisol, which blocks thyroid function. 01:26:35.860 --> 01:26:40.780 Progesterone blocks both of those and lets the thyroid function normally. 01:26:40.780 --> 01:26:44.780 So that's why it works for the guys with the testosterone, the progesterone. 01:26:44.780 --> 01:26:47.820 Same principle. 01:26:47.820 --> 01:26:49.500 Pretty safe too, what I understand. 01:26:49.500 --> 01:26:50.500 And do you agree? 01:26:50.500 --> 01:26:51.500 Pretty safe? 01:26:51.500 --> 01:26:52.500 Yes. 01:26:52.500 --> 01:27:05.380 No one has really found any harmful side effects of progesterone except that it can cause unconsciousness 01:27:05.380 --> 01:27:09.420 if you take a huge dose. 01:27:09.420 --> 01:27:14.760 Okay, final email, then we'll let you go on with your day here. 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:20.100 What does your guest recommend for low thyroidism and high blood pressure at the same time? 01:27:20.100 --> 01:27:24.940 We recently started taking some Living Streams probiotics, which seem to have helped other 01:27:24.940 --> 01:27:25.940 symptoms. 01:27:25.940 --> 01:27:28.980 Okay, thank you, but not the high blood pressure yet. 01:27:28.980 --> 01:27:32.500 I stopped taking armor thyroid when I started the probiotics. 01:27:32.500 --> 01:27:37.900 Should I just have eased off of the armor? 01:27:37.900 --> 01:27:39.580 Oh, so let's see. 01:27:39.580 --> 01:27:44.460 It sounds like Dr. Peat, they've kind of just dumped the armor, but their blood pressure 01:27:44.460 --> 01:27:47.820 has gone up a little bit. 01:27:47.820 --> 01:27:57.620 Yeah, when you're low in thyroid function, generally your TSH is very high. 01:27:57.620 --> 01:28:08.060 TSH has a pro-inflammatory effect that creates many of the circulatory problems that are 01:28:08.060 --> 01:28:09.940 blamed on hypothyroidism. 01:28:09.940 --> 01:28:18.340 It's really hyper-TSH-ism, which goes with the low thyroid function. 01:28:18.340 --> 01:28:21.220 Keeping your TSH down is very important. 01:28:21.220 --> 01:28:31.020 I've got several dozen articles showing that hypertension was cured when they corrected 01:28:31.020 --> 01:28:33.940 their low thyroid problem. 01:28:33.940 --> 01:28:40.900 That's why she got off the armor, and then maybe why her blood pressure went up. 01:28:40.900 --> 01:28:47.820 Yeah, that's probably the largest cause of hypertension is low thyroid, but you have 01:28:47.820 --> 01:28:51.700 to watch the intestine health. 01:28:51.700 --> 01:28:53.300 It's extremely important. 01:28:53.300 --> 01:29:00.420 When your thyroid is low, your digestion is slow, and toxins from the intestine contribute 01:29:00.420 --> 01:29:02.820 to the high blood pressure. 01:29:02.820 --> 01:29:05.860 Yeah, well, Dr. Peat, good job. 01:29:05.860 --> 01:29:09.260 Thanks for spending some time with us here today. 01:29:09.260 --> 01:29:10.260 We appreciate it. 01:29:10.260 --> 01:29:11.260 Okay. 01:29:11.260 --> 01:29:12.260 Yeah, it's always fun. 01:29:12.260 --> 01:29:14.180 Now, your website again is raypeat.com. 01:29:14.180 --> 01:29:15.740 You have lots of articles. 01:29:15.740 --> 01:29:21.580 You have 12 different, what did you say? 01:29:21.580 --> 01:29:27.300 I'm sorry, 12 different, 12 subscriptions or 12 issues of your- 01:29:27.300 --> 01:29:30.180 Yeah, 12 issues every other month. 01:29:30.180 --> 01:29:31.180 Every other month. 01:29:31.180 --> 01:29:32.180 Over two years. 01:29:32.180 --> 01:29:33.180 Yeah, two years. 01:29:33.180 --> 01:29:36.780 You want to get your special email thing, and you can do that right on his website. 01:29:36.780 --> 01:29:37.780 Again, thanks a lot. 01:29:37.780 --> 01:29:40.980 Have a pleasant day up there in the Northwest. 01:29:40.980 --> 01:29:42.380 Okay, thank you. 01:29:42.380 --> 01:29:43.380 Thank you, sir. 01:29:43.380 --> 01:29:45.100 Dr. Ray Peat, well, always good. 01:29:45.100 --> 01:29:48.380 Boy, I tell you what, you got to take notes, right? 01:29:48.380 --> 01:29:51.300 Man, these little bodies, they are a trip, aren't they? 01:29:51.300 --> 01:29:56.660 Well, we do what we can here to keep bringing you folks that'll help you to stay out of 01:29:56.660 --> 01:30:01.980 doctor's office, take care of yourself, and do your dream, and have more energy, and all 01:30:01.980 --> 01:30:04.460 the things that we like to do here on planet Earth. 01:30:04.460 --> 01:30:08.300 We're going to have fun on Thursday. 01:30:08.300 --> 01:30:11.940 I think we're going to talk about the brain, the old brain, you know, the old brain thing. 01:30:11.940 --> 01:30:13.500 We're going to do the brain on Thursday. 01:30:13.500 --> 01:30:14.820 Do we have somebody else too? 01:30:14.820 --> 01:30:16.260 I got to check here. 01:30:16.260 --> 01:30:19.100 I know we had somebody else, but I will. 01:30:19.100 --> 01:30:20.100 We'll find somebody. 01:30:20.100 --> 01:30:23.020 Oh, we got to get somebody else for Thursday. 01:30:23.020 --> 01:30:27.380 And then tomorrow, we're going to do a tinfoil hat Wednesday with James Corbett, who's out 01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:29.460 of Japan, and he's a fun guy. 01:30:29.460 --> 01:30:30.460 I think you'll enjoy him. 01:30:30.460 --> 01:30:32.500 If you don't know him, just check him out. 01:30:32.500 --> 01:30:34.420 So I love you all very much. 01:30:34.420 --> 01:30:35.500 Thanks for your ongoing support. 01:30:35.500 --> 01:30:37.500 Let me know if I can help in any way. 01:30:37.500 --> 01:30:40.260 My email, patrick@oneradionetwork.com. 01:30:40.260 --> 01:30:41.820 I'm at your service here. 01:30:41.820 --> 01:30:44.540 I don't get far from my computer during the day. 01:30:44.540 --> 01:30:48.380 I'm always kind of checking what I'm doing, seeing what's going on. 01:30:48.380 --> 01:30:50.660 If I can help you, let me know. 01:30:50.660 --> 01:30:55.380 People order sulfur, and they have questions about this and that, and all these questions. 01:30:55.380 --> 01:31:00.380 So I'll see you tomorrow, and may the blessings be. 01:31:00.380 --> 01:31:05.900 From the Hill Country in Texas, this is one Radionetwork.com. 01:31:06.420 --> 01:31:07.420 [music] 01:31:07.420 --> 01:31:17.420 [BLANK_AUDIO]