WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.600 So you have mentioned before that folks, if they want to start taking a thyroid, that 00:00:08.600 --> 00:00:14.840 they start slow and do it maybe even half a grain or something for a couple weeks. 00:00:14.840 --> 00:00:19.240 So you think that's a good idea to get the body kind of used to it? 00:00:19.240 --> 00:00:30.400 Yeah, that is a traditional way to stay on ideally a month because your adrenaline and 00:00:30.400 --> 00:00:35.280 cortisol are going to come down as the thyroid comes up. 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:43.200 So at two weeks you might seem just right and then you start slowing down again when 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:46.300 your adrenaline comes down towards normal. 00:00:46.300 --> 00:00:52.480 So maybe 30 grains, half of a tab might be a good thing for a few weeks or a month. 00:00:52.480 --> 00:01:00.560 Yeah, and watching those measurements because it's like a sawtooth pattern. 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:07.160 You rise to normal and then your hormones adjust and you slip back and then you increase 00:01:07.160 --> 00:01:14.200 the dose and rise to normal for a while and then if you normalize your adrenaline and 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:21.480 lower your stress, then your metabolism slows down again for a while. 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.120 So that's why if you do both you can kind of gauge. 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:31.720 So what you want is after an hour after eating around 11 or so, the ideal would then be the 00:01:31.720 --> 00:01:36.680 more 98 temp and more higher pulse rate? 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.760 Yeah, 80 or 85 in the middle of the day is a good pulse rate. 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:42.760 Wow. 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:52.000 So 75 at least and 85 or 90 is okay and temperature 98 or 98 and a half. 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:53.800 So could you diagnose for Patrick here? 00:01:53.800 --> 00:01:56.320 I'm like 60 all the time. 00:01:56.320 --> 00:01:59.120 Just doesn't change. 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.120 I mean it seems fine to me. 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:08.240 For me, Doc, if I had 75 I would think I'd be like total anxiety or something. 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:17.120 Oh no, the thyroid, one of the things it does by lowering the stress hormones, you feel 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:18.800 more and more relaxed. 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.920 But the higher pulse rate. 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:26.160 But how you feel is a good indicator. 00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:30.760 You don't want to push it into the anxiety because that means you're turning on your 00:02:30.760 --> 00:02:31.760 stress. 00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:32.760 Sure. 00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:40.680 So serotonin is an additional complicating factor. 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:50.360 The vagal system and the adrenaline system is one complication of interpreting thyroid 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:56.760 function but the serotonin also tends to go down as your thyroid comes up. 00:02:56.760 --> 00:03:02.200 And the serotonin is a promoter of hyperventilation. 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:16.640 And so the low blood glucose, low oxygen consumption person often will have an actual hyperventilation 00:03:16.640 --> 00:03:20.440 driven by the increased serotonin. 00:03:20.440 --> 00:03:30.560 And that serotonin disturbs both your adrenal mineral regulation and your parathyroid hormone. 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.240 It drives your parathyroid hormone up. 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:44.760 And that is worse if you're low in either calcium intake or low in vitamin D. And that's 00:03:44.760 --> 00:03:50.800 why I talk a lot about calcium and vitamin D in relation to thyroid. 00:03:50.800 --> 00:04:00.960 Because low thyroid means usually higher serotonin activity, hyperventilation, disturbed calcium 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:08.320 metabolism and dependence, need for more vitamin D. 00:04:08.320 --> 00:04:10.160 We talked a bit about dopamine last hour. 00:04:10.160 --> 00:04:15.000 How does dopamine play into the whole, what we've just talked about, the last 10 minutes, 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.000 dopamine? 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:27.080 It's similar to the adrenaline or sympathetic nervous opposition to the shock tendency of 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:30.000 the vagal or sympathetic system. 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:37.480 It's the body's balancing factor for serotonin. 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:43.000 You can get too much of both of those and you get symptoms like nightmares. 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:44.000 Insomnia. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:58.600 Yeah, insomnia and the water and salt regulation become a problem when those go up. 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:08.680 So you want to keep your serotonin down and under control and then your dopamine will 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.200 take care of keeping things in balance usually. 00:05:12.200 --> 00:05:16.600 So on the shock idea, you're talking about it could be a traumatic event in someone's 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:17.600 life. 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:31.040 Yeah, an emotional shock will turn off your thyroid function and all of those other, the 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:41.400 adrenals and the parathyroid system tend to get out of control as your thyroid goes down. 00:05:41.400 --> 00:05:45.680 I wonder why though, after you get over the shock and you forgive the shock person and 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:52.560 all that and spiritually and emotionally, that these thyroid wouldn't start to get 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.120 its act together without the meds. 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:04.600 I think that's because of the tissues having been slightly deranged by storing PUFA in 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:06.840 their vats. 00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:14.480 Usually young people can take a big shock better than people in their 30s and 40s when 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:22.800 their tissues are destabilized by the fat. 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:31.520 An emotional upset will more reliably cause a chronic thyroid problem in a person in their 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:34.120 30s than in their teens. 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.400 Dr. Ray Peat is with us. 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:38.960 Oh, that's my dog there just shaking. 00:06:38.960 --> 00:06:39.960 Hi, doodle. 00:06:39.960 --> 00:06:41.440 Say hi to Dr. Peat. 00:06:41.440 --> 00:06:47.720 Dr. Ray Peat is with us and you can see on the show page there where he has a bi-monthly 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.880 newsletter every couple of months and very, very affordable. 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:55.200 You can click on there and sign up and get some cool stuff and help support him so he 00:06:55.200 --> 00:06:56.520 can buy paints and stuff. 00:06:56.520 --> 00:07:01.480 It's good to have a little stuff coming in here. 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.520 So here's one for you. 00:07:03.520 --> 00:07:04.520 This is pretty fun. 00:07:04.520 --> 00:07:13.760 What's more effective, eating a whole orange, drinking its juice, or eating marmalade? 00:07:13.760 --> 00:07:24.040 The marmalade has the extract of the peeling which has a lot of therapeutic things. 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:31.560 I haven't seen any real comparisons, but people occasionally have advocated eating 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:36.920 the peeling raw, but that's extremely hard on the stomach. 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:45.920 Cooking the peeling extracts some of the anti-inflammatory protective things. 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:53.600 Naringin and naringin are major protective factors in orange peeling that you get in 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.240 the marmalade. 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:02.440 The added sugar is an added anti-stress factor that supports your thyroid. 00:08:02.440 --> 00:08:15.120 But ideally, the juice, you can get all of those good things in the absence of good orange 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:16.120 juice. 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:22.480 Marmalade is kind of a medical substitute. 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:31.360 If you have good oranges, you wouldn't want to eat the number of oranges it takes to make 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.240 a gallon of orange juice. 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:40.720 It's fine to drink a gallon of orange juice in hot weather, but all of the fiber in an 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:46.160 orange would probably be a burden to your digestive system. 00:08:46.160 --> 00:08:47.880 Here's a good one. 00:08:47.880 --> 00:08:57.200 Would you ask, "I experience malabsorption that no matter what or how much I eat, I stay 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:58.200 underweight. 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:04.520 Symptoms like gnawing, ulcer-type pain that flares up at night to cause insomnia, and 00:09:04.520 --> 00:09:09.560 eating iron-rich foods like organ meats, which were previously well-tolerated, now exacerbate 00:09:09.560 --> 00:09:10.560 this pain." 00:09:10.560 --> 00:09:19.280 So, getting some ulcer-type pain at night and can't seem to gain weight, can you gauge 00:09:19.280 --> 00:09:23.060 what might be going on for this person? 00:09:23.060 --> 00:09:32.600 My personal experience and knowing half a dozen other people, usually men, in their 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:45.280 20s and 30s, some individuals can eat several thousand calories a day without gaining weight. 00:09:45.280 --> 00:09:56.440 I've known people who weighed, for a normal height, weighed 130, 140 pounds, very, very 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:04.280 skinny, who were eating three or four thousand calories a day. 00:10:04.280 --> 00:10:14.080 Based on my own experience, when I first supplemented thyroid, I was in my late 30s, I think, suddenly 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.240 I didn't need to eat so much. 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:24.720 My calorie requirement dropped in half simply by adding thyroid. 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:29.840 So I suggested that to these skinny men who were eating three or four thousand calories 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:33.440 and staying very skinny. 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.080 Suddenly they had the same experience. 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:41.540 They didn't have to eat more, but suddenly they put on muscle. 00:10:41.540 --> 00:10:49.200 That shows that thyroid is an anabolic hormone when it's in the right balance. 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:59.640 But if it's deficient and you're running on adrenaline, your cells know that the energy 00:10:59.640 --> 00:11:01.640 isn't being produced in the right way. 00:11:01.640 --> 00:11:05.000 It's being produced by the stress of adrenaline. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:12.160 So you're burning calories under the influence of adrenaline because the cells can't retain 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:18.400 the magnesium that stabilizes the energy level of the cell. 00:11:18.400 --> 00:11:31.360 Your thyroid can use the oxygen and produce the ATP and be fairly efficient in those ways, 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:38.560 but in the absence of a certain amount of thyroid, your cells lose magnesium and so 00:11:38.560 --> 00:11:42.560 they have to make the ATP again. 00:11:42.560 --> 00:11:48.840 So you're making ATP at a high rate but losing it because it breaks down in the absence of 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:53.000 magnesium. 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:59.840 Supplementing magnesium for about an hour will relax and stabilize the cells, but you 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:08.640 need a certain amount of thyroid to make the cells retain it and stay in that efficient, 00:12:08.640 --> 00:12:09.640 relaxed condition. 00:12:09.640 --> 00:12:17.960 It's a matter of letting your cells relax so that they can build themselves up instead 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.520 of being constantly running and stressing themselves. 00:12:21.520 --> 00:12:30.360 So that's where the thyroid is visibly a very powerful anabolic hormone. 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:38.080 So that's a little color intuitive because isn't often hypothyroidism connected with 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:41.440 overweight? 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:50.880 Very often, but if you look at the old textbooks, at the beginning of thyroid surgery, they 00:12:50.880 --> 00:13:00.920 forgot to replace the thyroid hormone with a powdered or squashed up animal thyroid gland. 00:13:00.920 --> 00:13:08.880 And when a person's thyroid gland was removed, they went into cachexia. 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:14.800 They looked like an advanced cancer patient, worse than sarcopenia. 00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:21.960 Sarcopenia to an extreme degree, they wasted away in the absence of the thyroid hormone. 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:30.760 And that's what's happening to these often young or middle-aged men who are just moderately 00:13:30.760 --> 00:13:39.920 hypothyroid, but it's enough to move them into that cachectic or sarcopenic state of 00:13:39.920 --> 00:13:43.240 not being able to build their muscle fast enough. 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.280 That's really interesting. 00:13:45.280 --> 00:13:46.280 This is from Cindy. 00:13:46.280 --> 00:13:47.280 She's in Alabama. 00:13:47.280 --> 00:13:54.120 "I've been told that when a person has Hashimoto's or other autoimmune issues, they should not 00:13:54.120 --> 00:14:00.360 use natural desiccated thyroid medications such as Armour or Nasothroid because the body 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.880 will attack these because they are natural? 00:14:04.880 --> 00:14:10.160 The body supposedly does not attack the synthetic medication like Synthroid, and I prefer not 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:12.000 to use the synthetic. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:16.040 What is your view on this?" 00:14:16.040 --> 00:14:26.400 The autoimmune so-called condition is an excited, inefficient state, like when the cell can't 00:14:26.400 --> 00:14:31.640 retain magnesium, it stays in an excited state. 00:14:31.640 --> 00:14:40.960 And if there's a hormone additionally increasing the excitation like TSH, it stimulates the 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:42.720 thyroid gland. 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:49.440 And if it gets the nutrients it needs to make the hormone in the right balance, not too 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:56.800 much iodine, then the cell is energized and works. 00:14:56.800 --> 00:15:05.200 If something is lacking so it can't produce the thyroid hormone, the TSH keeps rising, 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:13.240 stimulating it more, driving it harder, stressing it more until it is killing the cells causing 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.560 thyroiditis. 00:15:15.560 --> 00:15:28.960 And in a condition of inflammation, your immune system comes in to activate the turnover, 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:35.680 the phagocytosis of the damaged, overexcited, overstressed cells. 00:15:35.680 --> 00:15:45.920 The immune system is clearing up a damaged tissue, and that has been experimentally shown 00:15:45.920 --> 00:15:47.800 several times. 00:15:47.800 --> 00:15:59.800 For example, in artificially inflamed brains in animals, they find that what they thought 00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:08.880 was autoimmune inflammation of the brain caused by a virus or some external cause was actually 00:16:08.880 --> 00:16:12.880 being remedied by the immune system. 00:16:12.880 --> 00:16:23.560 If they removed that so-called autoimmune antibody, the inflammation killed the animal. 00:16:23.560 --> 00:16:31.600 The immune system antibodies directed against self, if they're properly supported, are cleaning 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.920 up the damaged tissue, remedying the problem. 00:16:34.920 --> 00:16:44.040 And people have demonstrated that where you have the so-called autoimmune antithyroid, 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:54.280 antiglobulin, antiperoxidase enzymes specific to the thyroid, if they supplement enough 00:16:54.280 --> 00:17:05.040 thyroid to lower the TSH, you stop producing the antibodies, and the antibodies, when they 00:17:05.040 --> 00:17:09.440 finish cleaning up the damaged tissue, will gradually fade away. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:16.600 It takes several months of keeping the TSH low, but there have been several publications 00:17:16.600 --> 00:17:23.600 demonstrating that the condition corrects itself after several months. 00:17:23.600 --> 00:17:30.760 Wow, that's pretty trippy. 00:17:30.760 --> 00:17:35.920 That applies to things like rheumatoid arthritis and several other types of so-called autoimmune 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:36.920 conditions. 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.880 Let's see, this is from Wendy. 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:48.480 Wondering if Dr. Peat knows anything about the Pearlsium powder that we promote. 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.020 It's made from just pearls. 00:17:51.020 --> 00:17:53.800 If he thinks that would be a good source for calcium. 00:17:53.800 --> 00:17:56.180 Do you know anything about that product? 00:17:56.180 --> 00:17:57.180 Made from what? 00:17:57.180 --> 00:17:58.180 Pearls. 00:17:58.180 --> 00:17:59.180 Pearls. 00:17:59.180 --> 00:18:05.320 Calcium carbonate, I think, is the best supplement. 00:18:05.320 --> 00:18:06.320 Calcium carbonate. 00:18:07.320 --> 00:18:14.320 Egg shells and oyster shells and other sea creatures' shells. 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:18.320 But you don't have any experience with the pearl itself. 00:18:18.320 --> 00:18:19.320 Pearl? 00:18:19.320 --> 00:18:20.320 Yeah, pearl. 00:18:20.320 --> 00:18:21.320 No, no. 00:18:21.320 --> 00:18:27.320 Chinese medicine, all you've had to use is pearl for different things, and that's what 00:18:27.320 --> 00:18:28.320 she was asking. 00:18:28.320 --> 00:18:30.320 Yeah, they're made of calcium carbonate. 00:18:30.320 --> 00:18:31.320 Oh, they are? 00:18:31.320 --> 00:18:32.320 Oh, good. 00:18:32.320 --> 00:18:33.320 So that's a good source, then. 00:18:33.320 --> 00:18:34.320 Yeah. 00:18:34.320 --> 00:18:35.320 Good. 00:18:35.320 --> 00:18:37.960 And the other question, well, I was glad to hear. 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:38.960 We thought so. 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:43.760 Would calcium, another source of calcium would be in fish bones, she's asking. 00:18:43.760 --> 00:18:45.960 I used to eat sardines with fish bones. 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:52.120 They seemed digestible, but now with avoiding proofers, would the bones from cod or some 00:18:52.120 --> 00:18:57.820 other source be good as calcium source for those with sensitive guts? 00:18:57.820 --> 00:19:09.820 It is a calcium source that is okay, but the trouble is that it is calcium phosphate, and 00:19:09.820 --> 00:19:18.580 phosphate has an excitatory effect, and most people are overloading on phosphates, and 00:19:18.580 --> 00:19:22.140 so the bones will move in the right direction. 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:31.900 But if you're still eating a lot of meat, or meat and grains and legumes, for example, 00:19:31.900 --> 00:19:40.340 are overloading you with phosphate, and so calcium phosphate helps, but it isn't as effective 00:19:40.340 --> 00:19:42.340 as calcium carbonate. 00:19:42.340 --> 00:19:46.020 The carbonate, you like the carbonate. 00:19:46.020 --> 00:19:47.020 I love this. 00:19:47.020 --> 00:19:48.860 Cheryl writes, "Cody, she's in Florida." 00:19:48.860 --> 00:19:49.860 Well, thanks, Cody. 00:19:49.860 --> 00:19:56.980 "I'm interested to know," oh, you asked Dr. Peat, "how long he sleeps each night, and do 00:19:56.980 --> 00:19:59.020 you sleep uninterrupted sleep?" 00:19:59.020 --> 00:20:03.380 She's asking about your sleep. 00:20:03.380 --> 00:20:10.900 It depends on how good the weather is, how good my food was, and so on, but seven and 00:20:10.900 --> 00:20:14.940 a half to nine hours, it's variable. 00:20:14.940 --> 00:20:23.620 Usually I wake up during the night and have some milk and sugar or orange juice to lower 00:20:23.620 --> 00:20:25.020 the stress. 00:20:25.020 --> 00:20:31.540 Having milk at bedtime will lower several of the stress hormones. 00:20:31.540 --> 00:20:40.860 I've got in the habit of, if I wake up in the night, having some sugar and milk or orange 00:20:40.860 --> 00:20:49.740 juice and milk, and that resets the hormones so that you don't experience the same amount 00:20:49.740 --> 00:20:52.820 of stress around dawn. 00:20:52.820 --> 00:20:53.820 Yeah, what fun. 00:20:53.820 --> 00:20:57.980 So you put, say, if you would have milk in the middle of the night when you wake up, 00:20:57.980 --> 00:21:01.420 would you put actual sugar in there or honey or maple syrup? 00:21:01.420 --> 00:21:03.420 What would you use? 00:21:03.420 --> 00:21:06.780 Pure white sugar is the safest. 00:21:06.780 --> 00:21:07.780 Really? 00:21:07.780 --> 00:21:10.620 Single figure. 00:21:10.620 --> 00:21:13.500 Pure white sugar from Hawaii, right? 00:21:13.500 --> 00:21:18.780 Why is that the safest over ... You would think honey or maple syrup is a better choice, 00:21:18.780 --> 00:21:19.780 no? 00:21:19.780 --> 00:21:26.380 Honey is very good, but if the bees happen to eat something you're allergic to, you can 00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:34.580 have an allergic reaction to the plant substance that gets into the honey. 00:21:34.580 --> 00:21:45.740 Actual sugar is extremely nutritious for minerals, but the heating process makes the sugar allergenic. 00:21:45.740 --> 00:21:47.260 I didn't know they heated it. 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:52.140 I thought they just kind of dump it out of the old tree. 00:21:52.140 --> 00:22:01.340 It comes out in a very liquid, slightly amber color, but a very pale, thin liquid, and it 00:22:01.340 --> 00:22:08.980 has to be evaporated, and they use heat to evaporate it. 00:22:08.980 --> 00:22:16.420 Theoretically, you could do it at room temperature with a high vacuum, but it's economical to 00:22:16.420 --> 00:22:17.420 heat it. 00:22:17.420 --> 00:22:27.780 In the heating process, there are small amounts of amino acids in the juice as well as minerals, 00:22:27.780 --> 00:22:36.780 and when you heat glucose with an amino acid, it produces a toxic reactant. 00:22:36.780 --> 00:22:40.380 Your go-to is C&H pure cane sugar from Hawaii? 00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:46.260 Well, actually ... You could probably get an organic one, though, can't you? 00:22:46.260 --> 00:22:51.940 Yeah, you can, but it's so well washed. 00:22:51.940 --> 00:23:01.380 You get 99 and more percent pure sucrose, but I think beet sugar might even be better. 00:23:01.380 --> 00:23:03.660 Oh, beet sugar. 00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:04.660 Is that white? 00:23:04.660 --> 00:23:05.660 Oh, sure. 00:23:05.660 --> 00:23:08.180 Yeah, they're washed. 00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:16.180 They would be brown, but they wash the molasses away, and the molasses is brown partly because 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:22.380 of the heat process reacting amino acids with the glucose, making a brown substance that 00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:35.420 is similar to the substance that's produced in aging, reacting glucose with amino acids. 00:23:35.420 --> 00:23:39.940 Have I read or did I dream this, that a lot of the beets are genetically modified now? 00:23:39.940 --> 00:23:41.820 You want to do organic? 00:23:41.820 --> 00:23:44.340 Oh, probably. 00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:47.860 You hopefully aren't getting any proteins. 00:23:47.860 --> 00:23:53.500 The proteins are the allergenic, toxic form, and that's what genetic modification does, 00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:59.540 is make new proteins which are toxic and allergenic. 00:23:59.540 --> 00:24:02.500 Here's one. 00:24:02.500 --> 00:24:07.980 I know that Dr. Peats recommended raw carrots, cooked mushrooms, bamboo shoots for the antibiotic 00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:13.780 properties, but that our gut bacteria can get used to these. 00:24:13.780 --> 00:24:24.180 Is just alternating with those enough, or should one supplement with doses of antibiotics? 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:34.620 If you're having a problem with hormone imbalance and stress, at a fertility clinic about 35 00:24:34.620 --> 00:24:43.540 years ago, they had the theory that infertility might be caused by germs, and so they gave 00:24:43.540 --> 00:24:52.700 some women antibiotics and didn't do much for their fertility that they saw, but a lot 00:24:52.700 --> 00:24:59.300 of them said that their PMS and headaches had gone away. 00:24:59.300 --> 00:25:04.340 So they started measuring their hormones, and they found that in fact it had improved 00:25:04.340 --> 00:25:14.020 their fertility balance by lowering estrogen and cortisol and increasing their progesterone. 00:25:14.020 --> 00:25:20.940 That wasn't just a fertility clinic in humans, but people then tested it in animals, and 00:25:20.940 --> 00:25:28.980 a course of antibiotics reliably lowered estrogen and cortisol, the stress hormones, and increased 00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:34.380 progesterone. 00:25:34.380 --> 00:25:36.260 That's the idea of the fiber. 00:25:36.260 --> 00:25:45.260 When the fiber is working, it is binding and eliminating estrogen so it isn't reabsorbed 00:25:45.260 --> 00:25:49.060 and passed through the liver repeatedly. 00:25:49.060 --> 00:25:56.460 The fiber eliminates estrogen, that lowers the stress, so your cortisol goes down, and 00:25:56.460 --> 00:26:02.180 that combination allows your progesterone to be retained properly. 00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:04.140 Go figure. 00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:05.140 That's really interesting. 00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:08.140 I sure like Dr. Peat's show. 00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:09.140 Thanks for having him on. 00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:15.060 On a previous show, Dr. Peat mentioned possibly placing a red light at your bedside with a 00:26:15.060 --> 00:26:19.420 timer to come on intermittently through the night to eliminate the reduce of stress caused 00:26:19.420 --> 00:26:20.820 by darkness. 00:26:20.820 --> 00:26:26.780 Did you further ask about implementing this idea and if it would be helpful or not? 00:26:26.780 --> 00:26:27.980 Maybe somebody else mentioned that. 00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:30.580 I don't know if you said that. 00:26:30.580 --> 00:26:31.580 Sorry. 00:26:31.580 --> 00:26:34.620 Did you talk about that idea of intermittent red light? 00:26:34.620 --> 00:26:35.620 Yeah. 00:26:35.620 --> 00:26:41.420 I've tried different things, and it bothered me to have it come on in my face. 00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:51.180 So I made a paddle or a belt with LEDs and found that putting it on my leg didn't bother 00:26:51.180 --> 00:26:52.820 me so much. 00:26:52.820 --> 00:27:00.180 And shining red light on your blood, anywhere in your body, has a de-stressing effect. 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:09.540 But I have not consistently used that. 00:27:09.540 --> 00:27:20.380 I think it's adequate to have a chronic daylight, continuous incandescent or sunlight during 00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:25.020 the daytime is enough to lower your stress. 00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:31.580 But I think it is good to have an air ionizer running all the time, especially during the 00:27:31.580 --> 00:27:42.780 night, because negatively ionized air activates your lungs' ability to lower serotonin and 00:27:42.780 --> 00:27:44.580 lower the stress of night. 00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:45.580 What's an air ionizer? 00:27:45.580 --> 00:27:46.580 What does it do? 00:27:46.580 --> 00:27:47.580 I don't know if I know about that. 00:27:47.580 --> 00:27:51.260 Oh, that's a negative ion generator? 00:27:51.260 --> 00:27:53.460 Yeah. 00:27:53.460 --> 00:28:05.460 It adds electrons to the oxygen and it creates, in effect, radical, as far as your lung enzymes 00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:16.580 can tell, it's activated metabolic oxygen, more immediately accessible to destroy serotonin 00:28:16.580 --> 00:28:19.660 as it reaches your lungs. 00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:26.540 And the lungs are constantly keeping your serotonin in check. 00:28:26.540 --> 00:28:34.620 When a person has a digestive problem that wakes them up at night with various symptoms, 00:28:34.620 --> 00:28:41.580 including insomnia, that irritation of the intestine is putting tremendous amounts of 00:28:41.580 --> 00:28:49.660 serotonin into your blood, carried on the platelets, depending on your lungs to inactivate 00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:51.060 it. 00:28:51.060 --> 00:29:02.140 And if your estrogen happens to be high, then your lungs are relatively inactive in destroying 00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:04.540 the serotonin. 00:29:04.540 --> 00:29:12.500 Many things can make your lungs inefficient, leaving the serotonin active, causing insomnia. 00:29:12.500 --> 00:29:14.820 What do you do in a case like that in the middle of the night? 00:29:14.820 --> 00:29:20.140 What would be any kind of symptomatic relief? 00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:21.140 Milk and sugar. 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:22.140 Milk and sugar, huh? 00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:23.140 Yeah. 00:29:23.140 --> 00:29:25.500 Good old milk and sugar. 00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:31.520 Last month, Sue, she's in Canada, she talked about how, Dr. Peat talked about how protein 00:29:31.520 --> 00:29:36.660 powders except for gelatin contain some toxic amino acids. 00:29:36.660 --> 00:29:42.500 Please ask Dr. Peat whether hydrolyzed collagen powder is as effective as gelatin powder for 00:29:42.500 --> 00:29:46.980 protein and whether it has toxic effects. 00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:57.540 I know that the amino acids tryptophan, cysteine, and methionine are the ones that are susceptible 00:29:57.540 --> 00:30:03.780 to toxic oxidation, and gelatin just doesn't have those. 00:30:03.780 --> 00:30:12.820 And so you can predigest the gelatin into the amino acids. 00:30:12.820 --> 00:30:23.860 Hydrolyzed gelatin is short peptides and some free amino acids. 00:30:23.860 --> 00:30:33.200 As far as I know, they're easy to digest and are no more problem than natural gelatin. 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:40.740 So you like the Great Lakes gelatin and those kind of products as protein powders go, you 00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:44.500 like those the best, is that what you're saying? 00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:50.700 Yeah, or making your own gelatin with chicken back wings and legs and feet. 00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:55.940 Yeah, we've been doing it with the feet in a crock pot and boy, is there a lot of 00:30:55.940 --> 00:30:56.940 gelatin in there? 00:30:56.940 --> 00:30:59.940 Holy cow, yeah, it's a lot. 00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:04.180 You put that in the fridge and it's just solid, just like solid as a rock. 00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:08.700 Yeah, that's very good protective nutrition. 00:31:08.700 --> 00:31:16.140 An adult can use a very high proportion of their protein as gelatin. 00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:23.140 A growing kid needs some of those potentially toxic amino acids. 00:31:23.140 --> 00:31:32.940 Tryptophan and cysteine are needed for growth, but once you have achieved full growth, all 00:31:32.940 --> 00:31:37.340 they're needed for is things like the turnover of cells. 00:31:37.340 --> 00:31:43.540 Renewal is running at a lower rate than expansion of volume. 00:31:43.540 --> 00:31:49.380 I should mention that a fellow, Tony, has put together a really nice little array of 00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:53.340 these red incandescent lights, the chicken lamps. 00:31:53.340 --> 00:31:57.560 There's five of them and they're on a board with a little switch and it's in our store. 00:31:57.560 --> 00:32:02.420 Very well built and you can just probably set this guy somewhere in your living room, 00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:06.740 I guess at night or wherever you stay, and just shine the red light on you and it'll 00:32:06.740 --> 00:32:08.340 be beneficial, wouldn't it, Dr. Peat? 00:32:08.340 --> 00:32:10.740 It doesn't have to be all that close to you? 00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:16.340 No, and it penetrates very well. 00:32:16.340 --> 00:32:25.860 Red light, if you've looked at your hand against the sun, you can see red light coming through. 00:32:25.860 --> 00:32:34.460 That's because red light penetrates very well and the blue and green light is absorbed superficially. 00:32:34.460 --> 00:32:41.180 So, relatively weak red light will penetrate your tissues. 00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:45.580 So the length, the distance between these lights is not critical? 00:32:45.580 --> 00:32:50.460 No, the brighter, the quicker it works, though. 00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:51.460 Sure. 00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.620 These guys get pretty hot, so I guess you have to gauge that of how warm you want to 00:32:54.620 --> 00:32:55.620 be. 00:32:55.620 --> 00:32:56.620 Yeah. 00:32:56.620 --> 00:32:59.960 In the winter, though, I mean, just keep warm. 00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:05.620 How important is an optimal thyroid function to consider, writes an emailer, for stomach 00:33:05.620 --> 00:33:12.300 acid production due to the high concentration of mitochondria in parallel cells where stomach 00:33:12.300 --> 00:33:16.300 acid is produced? 00:33:16.300 --> 00:33:27.220 Thyroid makes carbon dioxide and the carbon dioxide is flowing in proportion to your metabolic 00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:28.220 activity. 00:33:28.220 --> 00:33:36.260 So you have a high oxidizing function governed by thyroid that creates the stomach acid. 00:33:36.260 --> 00:33:44.380 So you start with carbonic acid and use that to energize the production of hydrochloric 00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:45.780 acid. 00:33:45.780 --> 00:33:51.700 So low thyroid would often be correlated with low stomach acid? 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:52.860 Yeah. 00:33:52.860 --> 00:34:02.620 Low digestion, all of the digestive processes tend to slow down, but gastroparesis is supposedly 00:34:02.620 --> 00:34:10.860 a mysterious condition that is usually immediately remedied by thyroid supplements. 00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:13.860 Oh, my goodness. 00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:16.860 Well, let's see. 00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:20.860 It's time to go here. 00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:22.860 Let's see. 00:34:22.860 --> 00:34:27.860 Let's do a couple more, then we'll let you go. 00:34:27.860 --> 00:34:28.860 What? 00:34:28.860 --> 00:34:36.220 Oh, there was one here I thought was interesting. 00:34:36.220 --> 00:34:42.780 Many Catholic monks somehow live past 100 who are nothing but bread and water. 00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:46.580 Do you think their lack of movement may have conserved their carbon dioxide? 00:34:46.580 --> 00:34:49.580 That's a great question. 00:34:49.580 --> 00:35:01.740 Yeah, the church, both the Orthodox Church in the Caucasus region and the Catholic Church 00:35:01.740 --> 00:35:08.180 in South America, for example, they've been keeping marriage, birth, and death records 00:35:08.180 --> 00:35:10.300 for hundreds of years. 00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:21.860 And they've documented lots of people living 130, 150 years and more in these areas. 00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:30.300 In England, they keep pretty good records going back several hundred years. 00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:41.180 And they have the record of one old guy, Old Parr, they called him, lived into his 150s 00:35:41.180 --> 00:35:43.780 according to good documents. 00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:55.860 He was taken to visit the king because he was such an exceptional person. 00:35:55.860 --> 00:36:01.860 He died shortly after visiting the king and changing his diet. 00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:16.020 He said he had habitually eaten cheese and bread crusts, a very cheap, minimal diet. 00:36:16.020 --> 00:36:20.900 But he died after having some banquets with the king. 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:24.060 Oh, because they eat all this rich food, the kings? 00:36:24.060 --> 00:36:26.100 And he died. 00:36:26.100 --> 00:36:33.660 And an autopsy found that there was no disease in his body in his 150s. 00:36:33.660 --> 00:36:47.300 And in Abkhazia in the Caucasus and Vilkabamba in the Andes, there are well-documented multiple 00:36:47.300 --> 00:36:51.780 cases of people in their 140s and 50s and older. 00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:55.740 What kind of diets today get to 140? 00:36:55.740 --> 00:36:57.380 Very simple diets. 00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:06.580 And those are high altitude areas where they have both sheep, goats and cows. 00:37:06.580 --> 00:37:15.220 And so they eat a good proportion of milk and cheese in their diet, as well as having 00:37:15.220 --> 00:37:22.580 the high altitude environment that spares their carbon dioxide. 00:37:22.580 --> 00:37:40.580 And the monks and priests have usually a very simple, routine diet. 00:37:40.580 --> 00:37:47.300 I think sometimes they might fall into just the right balance of nutrients, not too much 00:37:47.300 --> 00:37:49.420 meat, for example. 00:37:49.420 --> 00:37:57.700 Meat is a very pro-aging thing because of the low calcium, high phosphate content. 00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:02.740 I think the high phosphate is probably one of the life-shortening things. 00:38:02.740 --> 00:38:06.780 Oh, there we are with the phosphate again. 00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:11.700 You don't generally think, or maybe I don't, I'm just not thinking properly about bread 00:38:11.700 --> 00:38:19.100 as being nutritious, but I guess it depends on the original grain and how it's made and 00:38:19.100 --> 00:38:20.100 everything? 00:38:20.100 --> 00:38:23.020 A little bit, yeah. 00:38:23.020 --> 00:38:32.860 If it's made traditionally, letting the yeast rise gradually, keeping the grain moist, the 00:38:32.860 --> 00:38:38.660 grain thinks it's sprouting when you let it leaven naturally. 00:38:38.660 --> 00:38:44.700 The moisture activates enzymes that break down the gluten and reduce the toxicity and 00:38:44.700 --> 00:38:46.020 make it more digestible. 00:38:46.020 --> 00:38:58.740 So it's a reliable, simple carbohydrate source and it does provide the trace minerals. 00:38:58.740 --> 00:39:07.020 If they have cheese or milk to balance that, the calcium becomes the predominant mineral, 00:39:07.020 --> 00:39:11.300 which I think has an anti-stress, life-prolonging effect. 00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:12.820 Well, that's kind of fun. 00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:15.500 You could just live on toasted cheese sandwiches and milk. 00:39:15.500 --> 00:39:18.020 That'd be kind of cool. 00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:20.100 Okay, finally, what's your take? 00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:23.420 I don't know if we've ever asked you about this, about the whole gluten thing. 00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:29.940 Give us, to kind of wrap up your opinion on what's going on with this gluten sensitivity, 00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:34.660 where how it began and stuff. 00:39:34.660 --> 00:39:45.060 Partly the seeds and grains have their plant defense systems. 00:39:45.060 --> 00:39:56.820 Leaves contain insecticides and flavor irritants that discourage grazing from cows and insects 00:39:56.820 --> 00:39:59.260 and worms and such. 00:39:59.260 --> 00:40:06.140 And the seeds are very important for the plant's survival, just like the leaves. 00:40:06.140 --> 00:40:15.820 The worst toxins tend to be put in the seeds to block digestion and cause as much trouble 00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:20.700 for the predator of the plant as possible. 00:40:20.700 --> 00:40:30.300 And polyunsaturated fats are able to inhibit digestion if they're an oily seed. 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:41.620 And the high-gluten seed, the gluten itself, is able to block digestive processes and cause 00:40:41.620 --> 00:40:44.740 inflammation. 00:40:44.740 --> 00:40:55.180 There are parts of the gluten molecule that have similar effects to estrogen for creating 00:40:55.180 --> 00:41:00.580 allergic reactions in the intestine, inflammatory reactions. 00:41:00.580 --> 00:41:09.540 And if you let the enzymes activate the seeds so that, as far as it knows, it has succeeded 00:41:09.540 --> 00:41:21.980 in becoming a plant, then the intense toxins of the seed have been inactivated and you 00:41:21.980 --> 00:41:33.380 have the stem chemicals, which are much less toxic than either the mature leaf or the seed. 00:41:33.380 --> 00:41:47.300 So leavened bread is detoxified, basically, when it's soaked for about 12 hours in moisture. 00:41:47.300 --> 00:41:51.020 So is the gluten sensitivity, it's a real thing? 00:41:51.020 --> 00:42:02.580 Yeah, it's an objective thing that if your immune system is very active and stable, you 00:42:02.580 --> 00:42:09.860 can adapt to it and pass it along quickly enough without damage. 00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:17.220 Have you had experience with some of this real ancient wheat, einkorn, the real deal? 00:42:17.220 --> 00:42:20.460 Have you ever experienced any of that? 00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:30.260 If they aren't leavened, the smaller seeds have some of the more intense toxins, same 00:42:30.260 --> 00:42:33.220 with small beans. 00:42:33.220 --> 00:42:40.380 The embryo is the larger part and the storage protein is smaller, but there are some very 00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:47.060 intense allergens in the smaller, more primitive seeds. 00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:53.300 So it's still important to make sure they're well leavened. 00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:59.820 So the leavening, the yeast and the sourdough make it nicer for us? 00:42:59.820 --> 00:43:03.780 Yeah, less allergenic. 00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:07.620 So if you were going to do some sprouts, do you do sprouts at all? 00:43:07.620 --> 00:43:10.340 Do you make your own sprouts at all? 00:43:10.340 --> 00:43:11.340 Not for many years. 00:43:11.340 --> 00:43:17.020 If you were going to do some, somebody wants to know what would be your favorites to do, 00:43:17.020 --> 00:43:22.180 the most digestible is what they're asking, George. 00:43:22.180 --> 00:43:30.820 They're all vastly more digestible than the seeds, but they should be cooked. 00:43:30.820 --> 00:43:34.100 To improve their digestibility, they should be well cooked. 00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:37.500 You cook sprouts as well? 00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:45.760 The Chinese, either a bean or a grain. 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:54.380 If it's fully sprouted, it develops at least twice as much protein value as was in the 00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:56.860 bean or the grain itself. 00:43:56.860 --> 00:44:04.140 So you're getting an actual protein supplement when you're sprouting. 00:44:04.140 --> 00:44:09.060 We used to do black beans and other beans, aduki beans, and you can sprout those guys 00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:11.460 just on a wet towel, right? 00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:15.180 You can see a little tail come out and then you can cook them. 00:44:15.180 --> 00:44:20.300 So it really zoops up the protein, huh? 00:44:20.300 --> 00:44:25.660 At the same time that it's reducing the allergenicity and toxicity. 00:44:25.660 --> 00:44:27.900 You can pretty much sprout any kind of bean, can't you, Doc? 00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:29.980 Can you soak them first and sprout them? 00:44:29.980 --> 00:44:37.100 Yeah, if they haven't been sterilized, which some products in the U.S. supermarkets have 00:44:37.100 --> 00:44:41.740 been irradiated or heated or chemically treated. 00:44:41.740 --> 00:44:44.220 Do you know if they can irradiate organic? 00:44:44.220 --> 00:44:47.740 Do we know if that's a protection, being organic? 00:44:47.740 --> 00:44:54.180 I haven't heard what the latest standards are, but they're pushing in that direction. 00:44:54.180 --> 00:44:55.180 Are they? 00:44:55.180 --> 00:44:56.180 Yeah. 00:44:56.180 --> 00:44:59.620 Well, Doc, so it's such an honor to have you on and people love you and you're just one 00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:02.420 of our most popular podcasts around here. 00:45:02.420 --> 00:45:05.700 You get a lot of hits, so thank you for that. 00:45:05.700 --> 00:45:07.620 Final question before you go. 00:45:07.620 --> 00:45:13.740 Are you focused on anything in particular research-wise that maybe we'll talk about next month or 00:45:13.740 --> 00:45:17.860 anything that really has your interest? 00:45:17.860 --> 00:45:30.180 Yeah, I'm trying to put together a more systematic picture of how serotonin fits into stress 00:45:30.180 --> 00:45:35.860 and aging. 00:45:35.860 --> 00:45:50.580 It probably is a point where intervention to reduce sickness, autoimmunity, and age-related 00:45:50.580 --> 00:45:52.380 degenerative conditions. 00:45:52.380 --> 00:46:00.540 I think aiming towards lowering serotonin is going to be one of the most productive 00:46:00.540 --> 00:46:02.820 things. 00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:13.540 I see research moving in that direction, contrary to the powers of the pharmaceutical industry, 00:46:13.540 --> 00:46:22.180 which want to still say serotonin is wonderful stuff and you should buy our antidepressants. 00:46:22.180 --> 00:46:34.100 But there are alternative antidepressants being demonstrated to be safer while lowering 00:46:34.100 --> 00:46:43.020 serotonin and promoting health rather than degrading health. 00:46:43.020 --> 00:46:45.060 So that's the research you're working. 00:46:45.060 --> 00:46:51.580 Just off the top, did I ask you, sorry, if I did some natural ways to lower the serotonin? 00:46:51.580 --> 00:46:54.500 Did we talk about that? 00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:59.180 Yeah, we've already covered a lot of them. 00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:06.540 Thyroid, vitamin D, calcium, sugar, and the things in orange juice. 00:47:06.540 --> 00:47:09.260 Oh good, all our favorite things, yeah. 00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:12.460 Calcium and orange juice, vitamin D. Good. 00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:14.940 Well, Dr. Peat, thanks for being here. 00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:19.300 We'll see you in about a month or so and maybe we'll have more to talk about serotonin. 00:47:19.300 --> 00:47:27.260 Dr. Peat's website is raypeat.com and we'll have a link to that and also right to a place 00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:30.380 where you can sign up for a headset. 00:47:30.380 --> 00:47:34.060 Every other month, how much does your little... 00:47:34.060 --> 00:47:37.780 Twenty-eight dollars by email. 00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:38.780 For how long? 00:47:38.780 --> 00:47:39.780 Two years. 00:47:39.780 --> 00:47:40.780 That's great. 00:47:40.780 --> 00:47:41.780 Twelve issues. 00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:42.780 Good for you. 00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:44.820 So every other month you get twelve issues for twenty-eight dollars. 00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:45.820 Good job. 00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:48.780 All right, Dr. Peat, thank you for being here. 00:47:48.780 --> 00:47:50.340 We'll see you real soon, okay? 00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:51.340 Okay, thank you. 00:47:51.340 --> 00:47:52.340 Yes, sir. 00:47:52.340 --> 00:47:53.340 Bye-bye. 00:47:53.340 --> 00:47:56.500 Dr. Ray Peat, wow, it's just great fun, isn't it? 00:47:56.500 --> 00:47:58.620 Isn't it cool having him on? 00:47:58.620 --> 00:48:03.260 Yeah, man, when he answers these questions and starts talking about research that people 00:48:03.260 --> 00:48:06.820 were doing twenty, thirty, forty years ago, it's like, "Whoa." 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:10.180 Yeah, so there's some good stuff here for you. 00:48:10.180 --> 00:48:12.820 Please pass on these links to everyone that you care about. 00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:17.340 We tried to do the best we could with getting all the emails and we skipped around to try 00:48:17.340 --> 00:48:21.740 to get a wide variety, and I think we went through a lot of them today. 00:48:21.740 --> 00:48:22.740 I'll see you tomorrow. 00:48:22.740 --> 00:48:23.980 We're going to do our money show. 00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:24.980 That'll be fun. 00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:32.900 It's been a couple weeks with Fred Dashefsky, Andy's partner, Andy Goss's partner, and he'll 00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:36.060 be here with the real world of money, so we'll have a good time. 00:48:36.060 --> 00:48:40.060 And then Carrie Rivera, she's going to be here on Thursday, and Carrie's quite a gal 00:48:40.060 --> 00:48:47.700 and has done terrific work with diet and gut and the autistic kids, and she's messed around 00:48:47.700 --> 00:48:55.820 with the Miracle Mineral Supplement, and so it'll be quite a fun show on Thursday. 00:48:55.820 --> 00:48:58.540 So thanks for your ongoing support. 00:48:58.540 --> 00:49:04.260 We appreciate it if you feel itchy fingers and you have some money to spend on your health. 00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:09.140 We've got a lot of cool products, as you know, from Ken Roller's things to Brandon Amelani's 00:49:09.140 --> 00:49:18.420 to Daniel Vitalis to now that we have the hydrogen machine getting some pretty good 00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:19.820 hits on the hydrogen machine. 00:49:19.820 --> 00:49:33.100 This one fellow, he said, "I love the Brown Gatsby machine." 00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:35.660 This is Edward in Florida. 00:49:35.660 --> 00:49:36.660 I love it. 00:49:36.660 --> 00:49:41.940 And if you notice that less appetite and better sleep, and I have, and I really got to watch 00:49:41.940 --> 00:49:44.980 that because the last thing I need is to eat less. 00:49:44.980 --> 00:49:49.260 You just live on hydrogen, you know, it's fine if you're going to be a monk or something. 00:49:49.260 --> 00:49:53.580 So it was so funny he said that because I have noticed, so I'm just going to have to 00:49:53.580 --> 00:49:59.660 work through that and just make sure I keep eating so I don't wisp away with the wind. 00:49:59.660 --> 00:50:00.660 But these are cool. 00:50:00.660 --> 00:50:05.300 But anyway, so we have a lot of great products, and don't forget if you'd like to get a 00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:09.860 sauna, you know, the cool weather's coming in, email me and I'll hook you up. 00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:10.860 It's a great one. 00:50:10.860 --> 00:50:11.860 Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:50:11.860 --> 00:50:15.580 I'm at your service so I can help with anything. 00:50:15.580 --> 00:50:16.820 I don't get far from my computer. 00:50:16.820 --> 00:50:21.140 We're out in the country, but I'm checking email several times throughout the day. 00:50:21.140 --> 00:50:22.140 So let me know if I can help. 00:50:22.140 --> 00:50:23.140 Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:50:23.140 --> 00:50:27.540 I love you all very much. 00:50:27.540 --> 00:50:28.540 You're doing good. 00:50:28.540 --> 00:50:29.540 You're doing the best you can. 00:50:29.540 --> 00:50:30.540 So that's all you got. 00:50:30.540 --> 00:50:31.540 That's all you do, right? 00:50:31.540 --> 00:50:33.220 You do the best you can. 00:50:33.220 --> 00:50:39.700 And may the blessings be. 00:50:39.700 --> 00:50:40.700 Thank you. 00:50:40.700 --> 00:50:40.700 [music] 00:50:41.140 --> 00:50:41.140 [music] 00:50:41.140 --> 00:50:46.140 [music] 00:50:46.140 --> 00:50:51.140 [music] 00:50:51.140 --> 00:50:56.140 [music]