WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.640 Nothing is more expensive than bad information. 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:03.960 Know the source. 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:04.960 OneRadioNetwork.com 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:10.440 Okay, here we are, hour number two of our little show. 00:00:10.440 --> 00:00:15.440 It is, you know what, I need to, let me do this music for just a second. 00:00:15.440 --> 00:00:19.680 I've got to make sure I don't have some water on, hmm, I don't know if I turned it off. 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:21.160 Hold on, say that, hold on. 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:22.160 I just ran downstairs. 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:27.040 No, I had it turned off, but I don't remember turning it off. 00:00:27.040 --> 00:00:30.560 I've melted one of those pots before I was going to make some tea and decided not to. 00:00:30.560 --> 00:00:32.720 Well, anyway, it's time for Mr. Ray Peat. 00:00:32.720 --> 00:00:35.000 It's always fun to talk to this gentleman. 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:40.560 It is the third Tuesday on One Radio Network where he so graciously agreed to come and 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:45.680 visit and take some of your questions and just kick around so much of his research and 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:47.880 we dig into all kinds of things. 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:51.560 He started long ago with a PhD from the University of Oregon. 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.280 He specialized in physiology. 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.640 He started working on hormones in '68. 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:57.920 Wow, 50 years ago. 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:03.720 He wrote his dissertation in '72 in which he outlined his ideas on progesterone and 00:01:03.720 --> 00:01:06.800 hormones closely related to it. 00:01:06.800 --> 00:01:14.720 The main thesis is that energy and structure are interdependent at every level. 00:01:14.720 --> 00:01:21.600 If you'd like to ask Dr. Peat a question, it is Patrick@OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:23.240 Ray Peat, good morning. 00:01:23.240 --> 00:01:24.240 Good morning. 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:25.240 How are you? 00:01:25.240 --> 00:01:26.240 How are things up there? 00:01:26.240 --> 00:01:27.240 Oh, very good. 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:28.240 It was sunny yesterday. 00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:29.240 It could be again today. 00:01:29.240 --> 00:01:32.960 Are you getting some painting done? 00:01:32.960 --> 00:01:36.760 Are you becoming like your own little Picasso guy? 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:37.760 Not lately. 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.560 I haven't done that for several days. 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:44.040 Do you do, Dr. Peat, do ongoing research all the time? 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:45.800 Are you always looking around? 00:01:45.800 --> 00:01:50.680 Yep, always reading and trying to figure things out. 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.200 Have you figured anything out recently where you had an "aha" moment? 00:01:55.200 --> 00:02:02.960 Yeah, a couple of things about how serotonin works. 00:02:02.960 --> 00:02:11.280 For example, people have known for several decades, starting in the 1930s actually, people 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:17.840 were realizing that hospital oxygen isn't good for people. 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:27.240 A physiologist, based on how people react to altitude, a physiologist tried adding from 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:32.320 five to seven percent carbon dioxide to the oxygen. 00:02:32.320 --> 00:02:37.960 They started using it in fire departments for resuscitating people, and it worked very 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:38.960 well. 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:46.400 So they tried it on newborn babies and found that it was good for babies to stimulate breathing. 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:52.320 It was used all around the country in fire departments for maybe five or ten years, then 00:02:52.320 --> 00:02:54.600 gradually went out of use. 00:02:54.600 --> 00:03:02.400 But hospitals almost always keep oxygen, plain 100% oxygen on hand for patients. 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:08.920 But several people in the last 20 or 30 years have started looking at the outcome when they 00:03:08.920 --> 00:03:21.760 oxygenize a person, and when the blood saturation is approaching 100% saturation, when it's 00:03:21.760 --> 00:03:31.520 above 90% actually, the mortality starts increasing rather than decreasing. 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:38.240 The hyperoxygenated patients, actually about twice as many of them don't come out of the 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.240 hospital. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:48.800 And what I realized was that that's been known as an effect of strenuous exercising, where 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.840 you breathe very intensely. 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:59.600 Your blood can become very over-oxygenated, and they know that that increases prolactin 00:03:59.600 --> 00:04:02.960 as sort of a stress reaction hormone. 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:10.720 And so they tried just having a person breathe 60% oxygen or 100% oxygen, and found that 00:04:10.720 --> 00:04:14.600 that drives their prolactin very high. 00:04:14.600 --> 00:04:22.320 And I realized that what's happening is the lack of carbon dioxide in the blood when you're 00:04:22.320 --> 00:04:31.720 being treated with oxygen or just hyperventilating, that raises the pH of your blood, causes the 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:40.160 platelets to release their serotonin, and serotonin drives up prolactin. 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:46.240 People have rejected that idea because they believed that there was a barrier, blood-brain 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:52.200 barrier that would keep the platelet serotonin out of the brain. 00:04:52.200 --> 00:05:01.000 In fact, I had just been going over the evidence that, in fact, there is no blood-brain barrier. 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:11.120 When you have too much estrogen, for example, the enzymes in the capillaries of the brain 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:17.320 lose their ability to detoxify serotonin, and so it goes right from your blood into 00:05:17.320 --> 00:05:18.320 your brain. 00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:19.920 So let's unpack this a little bit. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:26.160 So if folks over-exercise, we get too oxygenated, and we lose too much carbon dioxide, is that 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.240 right, by breathing fast? 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:29.240 If we breathe fast? 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:30.240 Yeah. 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:31.240 That's not a good thing. 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:36.320 Could that have been a problem for some of these people that would run 25 or 50 miles 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:39.440 or something and fall over with heart attacks? 00:05:39.440 --> 00:05:41.800 Yeah, exactly. 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:49.880 There are more than 300,000 people every year just in the United States who die with cardiac 00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:52.640 arrest. 00:05:52.640 --> 00:06:02.120 It's known that serotonin increases the delay between contraction and readiness for a new 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:15.400 contraction, and the SSRI, serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressants, increase that delay 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:19.800 by raising your serotonin. 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:29.160 So they are actually known to be able to increase the cardiac arrest frequency. 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:37.040 So that's what the SSRIs, Dr. Peat, are falsely doing, helping people to "feel better" by 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.760 juicing up their serotonin levels. 00:06:39.760 --> 00:06:40.760 That's the theory. 00:06:40.760 --> 00:06:41.760 That's a theory, right. 00:06:41.760 --> 00:06:42.760 That's a theory. 00:06:42.760 --> 00:06:43.760 Yeah. 00:06:43.760 --> 00:06:44.760 Not good. 00:06:44.760 --> 00:06:48.480 So let's go back on the prolactin and the pH. 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:53.080 So is this prolactin substance something we don't... 00:06:53.080 --> 00:06:58.800 You said it increases the prolactin when we over-oxygenate or over-exercise? 00:06:58.800 --> 00:06:59.960 Yeah. 00:06:59.960 --> 00:07:08.160 And starting in about 1965, when the birth control pills came on the market, there was 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:14.080 suddenly an increase, I think it was about a hundred-fold increase, in the incidence 00:07:14.080 --> 00:07:18.720 of pituitary tumors that secrete prolactin. 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:26.160 And that was an effect of the birth control pill creating prolactinoma tumors. 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:35.240 And that, I think, is because estrogen causes you to hyperventilate, interferes with your 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:44.200 thyroid gland, which makes you produce carbon dioxide, which is an antiserotonin agent. 00:07:44.200 --> 00:07:53.400 And so if you're high in estrogen or low in thyroid function, you're going to have effectively 00:07:53.400 --> 00:07:59.680 a shortage of carbon dioxide and an excess of prolactin and serotonin. 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:07.080 So when we do exercise, we want to work towards not breathing so much and retaining the carbon 00:08:07.080 --> 00:08:12.000 dioxide, getting stronger, getting the heart muscles stronger and the blood vessels and 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.240 the muscles so we don't over-breathe. 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.240 Is that right? 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:17.400 Yeah, exactly. 00:08:17.400 --> 00:08:20.840 That can make the exercise much more effective. 00:08:20.840 --> 00:08:21.840 Much more effective. 00:08:21.840 --> 00:08:22.840 Why? 00:08:22.840 --> 00:08:23.960 What's the carbon dioxide, Dr. Peat? 00:08:23.960 --> 00:08:26.460 What's it doing in the body when you're retaining it? 00:08:26.460 --> 00:08:27.960 It's a good thing. 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:29.220 Yeah. 00:08:29.220 --> 00:08:34.200 For one thing, it delivers the right amount of oxygen to the tissue. 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:45.160 The tissue, your muscle, produces carbon dioxide and the blood arriving in the capillaries 00:08:45.160 --> 00:08:50.840 release oxygen in proportion to how much carbon dioxide you're producing. 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:55.440 So that's how we get the oxygen to where we want it, by having enough carbon dioxide in 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:56.440 there. 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:57.440 Yeah. 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:05.740 And the carbon dioxide, meanwhile, is keeping the pH of the blood in the proper range where 00:09:05.740 --> 00:09:12.020 the serotonin can be stuck in the platelets. 00:09:12.020 --> 00:09:19.220 The platelets lose their affinity for serotonin if you don't have enough carbon dioxide. 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:25.700 So the fewer breaths we take every day as we're working or walking or on the computer, 00:09:25.700 --> 00:09:30.180 the more carbon dioxide we're retaining? 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:31.180 Not really. 00:09:31.180 --> 00:09:32.180 Only metaphorically. 00:09:32.180 --> 00:09:33.180 Oh. 00:09:33.180 --> 00:09:40.420 Because if your thyroid function is low, you just don't need much oxygen in your tissues. 00:09:40.420 --> 00:09:47.060 And then you can be hyperventilating even when you're only taking 10 or 15 breaths per 00:09:47.060 --> 00:09:52.460 minute because your tissue needs so little oxygen. 00:09:52.460 --> 00:09:56.780 If you breathe at a normal rate, you're hyperventilating. 00:09:56.780 --> 00:10:07.380 And the typical diabetic or hypothyroid person is going around just at rest with an excess 00:10:07.380 --> 00:10:14.940 of lactic acid in the blood because they're losing carbon dioxide and producing lactic 00:10:14.940 --> 00:10:20.260 acid because they can't use the oxygen that is in the blood. 00:10:20.260 --> 00:10:22.220 Because the thyroid function is low? 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:23.220 Yeah. 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:24.220 Wow. 00:10:24.220 --> 00:10:25.220 Man, you're such a thyroid geek. 00:10:25.220 --> 00:10:29.780 It's incredible all the little moving parts with this thyroid. 00:10:29.780 --> 00:10:31.260 Man, very interesting. 00:10:31.260 --> 00:10:37.260 So we had a fellow on the show the other day that suggested you could get one of these 00:10:37.260 --> 00:10:38.980 little laser temperature things. 00:10:38.980 --> 00:10:39.980 You ever see these, Doc? 00:10:39.980 --> 00:10:44.420 Where you have a little gun and you just put the laser and you can put it on water or I 00:10:44.420 --> 00:10:47.500 guess an engine or your skin and tell. 00:10:47.500 --> 00:10:54.020 And he said if you put it on the bottom of your big toe, it should be around 90 degrees 00:10:54.020 --> 00:10:55.660 for proper thyroid function. 00:10:55.660 --> 00:11:00.620 Do you think that could be valid, that idea? 00:11:00.620 --> 00:11:09.620 I've used the little infrared things that measure oxygenation of the tissue. 00:11:09.620 --> 00:11:16.980 And hospitals even say you shouldn't get below 90% saturation. 00:11:16.980 --> 00:11:26.420 And if you go down to 80%, they put you on super oxygen treatment. 00:11:26.420 --> 00:11:33.660 And lots of people like to keep their saturation around 98%. 00:11:33.660 --> 00:11:43.300 But using it in different conditions, I saw that in cold weather, I could be exercising 00:11:43.300 --> 00:11:54.100 or whatever, but in cold weather, my fingers always showed 98 or 99% saturation. 00:11:54.100 --> 00:12:01.260 But when I was warm and my fingers were actually using oxygen, I could get my fingers down 00:12:01.260 --> 00:12:06.420 to 90% or 89% saturation. 00:12:06.420 --> 00:12:14.900 So if your tissue isn't using oxygen, you can be dead and still have saturated hemoglobin. 00:12:14.900 --> 00:12:17.820 So what's the message there? 00:12:17.820 --> 00:12:26.340 If you quick froze a person's hand, it would stay saturated with oxygen. 00:12:26.340 --> 00:12:33.580 So those little gadgets that are sold so commonly and used in hospitals just don't say very 00:12:33.580 --> 00:12:34.820 much about your physiology. 00:12:34.820 --> 00:12:39.300 Oh, you're talking about the little finger things that they put on people. 00:12:39.300 --> 00:12:43.920 And they can show, I put mine on, it's generally like 96, 7, 8. 00:12:43.920 --> 00:12:46.420 And I thought that's a good spot where you want to be, right? 00:12:46.420 --> 00:12:47.780 You put those on? 00:12:47.780 --> 00:12:48.780 Or not? 00:12:48.780 --> 00:12:50.260 Does it matter? 00:12:50.260 --> 00:12:56.460 In general, that would be good, but on your finger, since temperature regulates the metabolic 00:12:56.460 --> 00:12:58.500 rate, you can't really tell very much. 00:12:58.500 --> 00:13:00.100 You can't really tell very much. 00:13:00.100 --> 00:13:03.380 But they put everybody on these things in the hospital, right? 00:13:03.380 --> 00:13:07.060 That's the first thing they do, stick one of these things on. 00:13:07.060 --> 00:13:13.140 When they were first designed for hospital use, they were actually very sensitive and 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:18.820 measured the up and down concentration of oxygen with each heartbeat. 00:13:18.820 --> 00:13:24.740 And now they're just using these cheap things that show an average oxygenation. 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:27.900 And it all depends on temperature. 00:13:27.900 --> 00:13:33.100 But what about the laser where they're taking the temperature of the toe, and the toe is 00:13:33.100 --> 00:13:34.100 90 degrees, theoretically? 00:13:34.100 --> 00:13:35.100 Oh, sure. 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:36.100 What do you think? 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:38.460 Do you think there's some validity to that? 00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:40.460 Sure, if it's temperature. 00:13:40.460 --> 00:13:42.940 Oh, yeah, temperature. 00:13:42.940 --> 00:13:52.020 If your feet are below, I think it's down around 80 degrees, they start producing inflammatory 00:13:52.020 --> 00:13:54.060 signals. 00:13:54.060 --> 00:14:02.700 And it can cause your whole system to become stressed and responding to inflammation. 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:08.860 So warm feet, for example, will make you sleep better by reducing inflammation. 00:14:08.860 --> 00:14:14.220 So that's the whole classic cold hands, cold feet with the low thyroid people. 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:16.700 That's what's going on. 00:14:16.700 --> 00:14:23.020 Can you walk us through what's happening when the thyroid is not producing the way it should 00:14:23.020 --> 00:14:26.100 and how that translates into cold feet? 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:29.900 I'm kind of curious about that, how that works. 00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:37.100 The oxygen is making you burn fat and sugar, turning it into energy to use. 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:44.780 And in the process of producing ATP and using the ATP, you're producing heat in proportion 00:14:44.780 --> 00:14:47.660 to the amount of oxygen you're using. 00:14:47.660 --> 00:14:53.300 And the thyroid is what makes you use oxygen to burn, preferably sugar, but also fat or 00:14:53.300 --> 00:14:54.300 protein. 00:14:54.300 --> 00:15:02.300 And so in proportion to the health of your thyroid, you'll be consuming oxygen and producing 00:15:02.300 --> 00:15:03.300 heat. 00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:09.540 You can't measure the heat a person is producing, but that would increase under the influence 00:15:09.540 --> 00:15:16.060 of stress and cortisol, which could be breaking down your tissues, not using oxygen. 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:18.500 So temperature alone isn't enough. 00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:23.140 You have to know the actual amount of oxygen being consumed. 00:15:23.140 --> 00:15:27.660 That's almost all under the influence of thyroid function. 00:15:27.660 --> 00:15:36.220 And so in the 1930s and '40s, lots of doctors had their little apparatus, a can inverted 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:41.660 in water with a hose to put over your nose. 00:15:41.660 --> 00:15:46.680 Then you would breathe for two minutes and measure the amount of oxygen consumed. 00:15:46.680 --> 00:15:51.460 And using that test, 30% of Americans were hypothyroid. 00:15:51.460 --> 00:15:57.300 But when the drug companies came on the market with a supposed way to measure the amount 00:15:57.300 --> 00:16:03.780 of thyroid in your blood, they convinced the whole world that only 5% of the population 00:16:03.780 --> 00:16:04.780 is hypothyroid. 00:16:04.780 --> 00:16:14.660 So immediately in the mid 1940s, people went from being 30% hypothyroid to only 5% hypothyroid. 00:16:14.660 --> 00:16:17.700 So it was a great medical disaster. 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:21.900 Yeah, but you would think that their motive would have been to have more people being 00:16:21.900 --> 00:16:24.700 hypo so they could sell them more stuff. 00:16:24.700 --> 00:16:32.580 Yeah, except they made a simple physiological mistake. 00:16:32.580 --> 00:16:38.100 They thought that a blood test probably was more profitable to sell, a phony blood test 00:16:38.100 --> 00:16:39.860 than their chemical. 00:16:39.860 --> 00:16:43.460 So I guess if I hear you right, then taking the temperature of the toe with one of these 00:16:43.460 --> 00:16:50.580 laser temperature things would not be a good marker to use for the amount of thyroid you 00:16:50.580 --> 00:16:51.580 need? 00:16:51.580 --> 00:16:54.580 Could it be closer? 00:16:54.580 --> 00:16:55.580 Just one thing. 00:16:55.580 --> 00:16:56.580 Yeah. 00:16:56.580 --> 00:17:01.780 Like when you shake hands with someone, if they have ice cold hands in the summer, they're 00:17:01.780 --> 00:17:05.260 almost always hypothyroid unless they're just very nervous. 00:17:05.260 --> 00:17:06.260 Right. 00:17:06.260 --> 00:17:07.260 Very interesting. 00:17:07.260 --> 00:17:08.260 Ray Peat is with us. 00:17:08.260 --> 00:17:11.460 Patrick Timpone, OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:17:11.460 --> 00:17:12.460 Stay right there, Dr. Peat. 00:17:12.460 --> 00:17:14.220 We have a little sale going on here. 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:17.780 If you have a question for Dr. Ray Peat, we'll get them all in. 00:17:17.780 --> 00:17:20.420 Patrick at OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:17:20.420 --> 00:17:21.820 Sale going on in elk velvet? 00:17:21.820 --> 00:17:24.740 Have you ever wondered why elk velvet antler could be good for you? 00:17:24.740 --> 00:17:29.100 So every year they shed it, and then in the spring 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00:19:21.740 --> 00:19:22.740 product. 00:19:22.740 --> 00:19:24.740 It is the sort of first food for mammals. 00:19:24.740 --> 00:19:28.340 It's made where dairy products are made in the body, or it comes from that same place, 00:19:28.340 --> 00:19:30.860 but it's not really a milk, even though it comes from udders. 00:19:30.860 --> 00:19:34.860 And of course, all mammals produce colostrum, and they produce that colostrum to feed their 00:19:34.860 --> 00:19:35.860 young mammals. 00:19:35.860 --> 00:19:41.100 And I really love the idea that if we're going to have cows and we're going to milk them, 00:19:41.100 --> 00:19:44.260 that colostrum becomes the most medicinal part of that whole system. 00:19:44.260 --> 00:19:48.580 So colostrum in human bodies does a lot of different things, but its primary stuff is 00:19:48.580 --> 00:19:50.920 it keeps the immune system in shape. 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:54.860 So when we're using colostrum, it keeps our immune system kind of like going to 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should try the link right here, oneradionetwork.com. 00:20:29.900 --> 00:20:32.060 Yes, sirree. 00:20:32.060 --> 00:20:33.060 Know the source. 00:20:33.060 --> 00:20:34.060 The source. 00:20:34.060 --> 00:20:35.060 Oneradionetwork.com. 00:20:35.060 --> 00:20:41.380 It's the third Tuesday of the month, and Dr. Ray Peat is kind enough to visit with 00:20:41.380 --> 00:20:43.700 us on the third Tuesday. 00:20:43.700 --> 00:20:44.700 He's a rock star around here. 00:20:44.700 --> 00:20:47.060 He gets probably more hits than anybody around. 00:20:47.060 --> 00:20:51.260 Just a lot of hits on the podcast, so keep your questions. 00:20:51.260 --> 00:20:56.860 Dr. Peat, I have an interesting little tale about milk that I wanted to ask you about 00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:57.860 and get your opinion. 00:20:57.860 --> 00:21:03.020 In Ayurvedic medicine, they suggest that if you get raw milk, that you should boil it. 00:21:03.020 --> 00:21:05.140 You know what I mean, boil it. 00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:08.540 They say that it helps to, let's see, what is it? 00:21:08.540 --> 00:21:15.940 It helps to absorb the fat more easily and helps to, if you have any bacteria or stuff 00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:19.620 that's not good from the cow, it's going to kill that. 00:21:19.620 --> 00:21:22.860 So I've been getting some raw milk and doing that. 00:21:22.860 --> 00:21:27.060 I got a new batch the other day, and in the first bottle I pulled out a half gallon, and 00:21:27.060 --> 00:21:31.620 I boiled it, just like I was, and put a little cardamom and cinnamon. 00:21:31.620 --> 00:21:36.860 And I had what I would say probably one of the worst cases of food poisonings I've ever, 00:21:36.860 --> 00:21:39.660 I mean, just, it was, I thought I was going to die. 00:21:39.660 --> 00:21:42.020 I thought I was going to die. 00:21:42.020 --> 00:21:43.020 But I made it through. 00:21:43.020 --> 00:21:44.020 I didn't die. 00:21:44.020 --> 00:21:45.020 And a couple hours later, and I was fine. 00:21:45.020 --> 00:21:46.980 And two or three hours, I worked through it. 00:21:46.980 --> 00:21:47.980 But it was pretty terrible. 00:21:47.980 --> 00:21:52.500 I threw that bottle out, and I talked to a friend of mine who knows a lot about the raw 00:21:52.500 --> 00:21:53.500 milk thing. 00:21:53.500 --> 00:22:00.720 And they told me that, well, some people conjecture that if you boil raw milk, that you could 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.220 actually, if they have a lot of bacteria in there, you could actually make that more toxic, 00:22:06.220 --> 00:22:09.340 and you'd be better off just warming it. 00:22:09.340 --> 00:22:13.580 Does that, can you comment on that comment at all? 00:22:13.580 --> 00:22:16.180 I wonder about the cardamom. 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:19.780 Are you used to using that? 00:22:19.780 --> 00:22:20.780 No. 00:22:20.780 --> 00:22:21.780 No. 00:22:21.780 --> 00:22:25.260 I would wonder if that might not have been an allergic reaction to that. 00:22:25.260 --> 00:22:26.600 Well, it could, though. 00:22:26.600 --> 00:22:29.260 But I've been using the cardamom for a couple months, though. 00:22:29.260 --> 00:22:30.260 No. 00:22:30.260 --> 00:22:31.260 It's not. 00:22:31.260 --> 00:22:34.620 How could you boil milk and have a poison by it? 00:22:34.620 --> 00:22:36.580 I don't think it would make it worse. 00:22:36.580 --> 00:22:42.740 I've, for years, used either raw milk or boiled milk. 00:22:42.740 --> 00:22:49.220 In Mexico, we often used boiled milk because we didn't know the cows. 00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:55.680 But when you have your own cow or know the cow, then raw milk is fine. 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.420 So if you're using raw milk from a source and you don't know exactly where, you know, 00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:04.220 everything about the farm because you're not there, you think it's a reasonable practice 00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:05.220 to boil it. 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:08.880 Yeah, or at least heat it. 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:16.140 You can inactivate the germs satisfactorily just by holding it at 160 degrees. 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:19.140 Maybe 160 or 170. 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:25.820 I wonder what the difference is between like 170 and boiling it like 212. 00:23:25.820 --> 00:23:29.340 Is there anything that goes on in that range that we care about? 00:23:29.340 --> 00:23:34.500 Yeah, it inactivates more proteins when you boil it. 00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:46.420 And there are theories that it improves or damages the digestibility, but it probably 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:48.220 hasn't been researched enough. 00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:49.220 I see. 00:23:49.220 --> 00:23:53.660 So that's the Ayurvedic claim where it helps you digest it more if you boil it. 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:55.100 That's where they're coming from. 00:23:55.100 --> 00:24:03.140 Yeah, in Mexico, lots of people feel that they just wouldn't be comfortable with raw 00:24:03.140 --> 00:24:04.140 milk. 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:08.260 It was the strangest experience, you know, and that's all I had for dinner was the milk. 00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:09.420 So it wasn't anything else. 00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:11.980 But you know, what do you do with a situation like that? 00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:15.140 I guess you just go onward through the fog because you don't really know what happened, 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:16.140 do you? 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:25.100 Yeah, I have a couple of times got fairly sick from using organic raw milk. 00:24:25.100 --> 00:24:32.540 And I think it was because the cows were eating weeds that I was allergic to. 00:24:32.540 --> 00:24:33.540 That's possible, huh? 00:24:33.540 --> 00:24:34.540 Possible. 00:24:34.540 --> 00:24:35.540 Wow. 00:24:35.540 --> 00:24:38.500 Now right now you're just doing, you're still doing milk, but you just do the store-bought 00:24:38.500 --> 00:24:40.020 organic milk, huh? 00:24:40.020 --> 00:24:41.020 Yeah. 00:24:41.020 --> 00:24:42.020 Yeah. 00:24:42.020 --> 00:24:44.860 So do you heat that at all or just warm it up a little? 00:24:44.860 --> 00:24:51.420 Yeah, often I'll warm it to have with coffee, but most of it I drink cool. 00:24:51.420 --> 00:24:55.620 Well here's an email from Nick and right on the milk question, I know that Dr. Peat is 00:24:55.620 --> 00:24:58.220 a big fan of milk, including low-fat milk. 00:24:58.220 --> 00:25:01.140 Does Dr. Peat drink milk with added vitamins? 00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:07.180 And if so, does he have any concern with the vitamins and/or emulsifiers used? 00:25:07.180 --> 00:25:13.060 Is there a specific brand or manufacturer that he trusts? 00:25:13.060 --> 00:25:19.740 Well I don't really trust them, but I drink it because it's available. 00:25:19.740 --> 00:25:28.860 But yeah, I'm very concerned about the possible emulsifiers they use to get the vitamins in 00:25:28.860 --> 00:25:30.620 the solution. 00:25:30.620 --> 00:25:39.660 But still, I've been using the commercial vitamin added milk for many years and apparently 00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:42.300 haven't had serious problems with it. 00:25:42.300 --> 00:25:44.820 Yeah, lots of them add that vitamin D, right? 00:25:44.820 --> 00:25:45.820 Is that what they say? 00:25:45.820 --> 00:25:47.420 They add vitamin D? 00:25:47.420 --> 00:25:48.420 And A. 00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:49.420 And A too? 00:25:49.420 --> 00:25:54.380 And they have to often use emulsifiers to make that happen? 00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:56.660 I'm not sure. 00:25:56.660 --> 00:26:02.940 Dairies haven't been willing to give me the details of how they do it. 00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:03.940 I see. 00:26:03.940 --> 00:26:10.300 A follow-up question was, does Dr. Peat drink homogenized milk or some type that is non-homogenized 00:26:10.300 --> 00:26:13.140 and perhaps low temperature pasteurized? 00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:17.580 Yeah, I like the low temperature pasteurized. 00:26:17.580 --> 00:26:26.020 And usually I drink the homogenized just because it's convenient not to have to shake it up. 00:26:26.020 --> 00:26:33.140 Does homogenization make it more difficult in general for humans to take milk? 00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:35.260 I don't think so. 00:26:35.260 --> 00:26:41.300 I've seen the research that says there is a difference, but I don't notice any difference. 00:26:41.300 --> 00:26:46.300 So that's just a myth that's been going on for the last 50 years, I guess? 00:26:46.300 --> 00:26:52.020 Yeah, because our digestion effectively homogenizes it. 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:57.140 The bile acids are an emulsifier that break up the particles very thoroughly. 00:26:57.140 --> 00:26:58.140 Cool. 00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:01.740 So I wanted to ask a little bit about sugar. 00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:10.100 We were taught over 20, 30, or 30 years that white sugar and white flour are just terrible. 00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:11.780 They'll just kill you. 00:27:11.780 --> 00:27:15.460 Just don't eat white sugar and white flour and then you're going to be fine. 00:27:15.460 --> 00:27:21.740 But you don't seem to be that much against white sugars per se, are you? 00:27:21.740 --> 00:27:23.220 No, not at all. 00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:31.300 But the evidence was very clear that they were using a bleach to make flour white. 00:27:31.300 --> 00:27:42.180 And the bleach was nerve toxic and they demonstrated dogs would have convulsions and other fits. 00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:43.180 I remember that. 00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:44.180 Yeah, I remember that. 00:27:44.180 --> 00:27:46.940 That's where that whole white flour thing came from. 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:52.700 Yeah, but they changed to a less toxic way of bleaching the flour. 00:27:52.700 --> 00:27:55.860 So it isn't a problem now. 00:27:55.860 --> 00:28:06.340 And the white sugar, I don't know of any bleaching process other than using carbon-activated 00:28:06.340 --> 00:28:11.860 charcoal to remove some of the color material. 00:28:11.860 --> 00:28:14.060 But that isn't actually bleaching it. 00:28:14.060 --> 00:28:16.800 It's filtering it out. 00:28:16.800 --> 00:28:22.460 So say a good white sugar, like a beet sugar, organic, is it really doing something good 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:26.860 for the body or is it just adding a little sweet that's kind of fun? 00:28:26.860 --> 00:28:27.860 Nice. 00:28:27.860 --> 00:28:33.980 It's sugar which is very, very highly purified. 00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:41.620 It's more pure than many of the reagent chemicals they use in research labs. 00:28:41.620 --> 00:28:46.540 It's washed to a crystalline purity. 00:28:46.540 --> 00:28:55.300 And so it's almost perfectly free of allergenic material, which brown sugar can cause really 00:28:55.300 --> 00:28:59.380 intense inflammatory reactions for sensitive people. 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:01.540 And molasses even worse. 00:29:01.540 --> 00:29:11.100 Molasses gets essentially the dirt, smoke residue and such from burning the chain fields. 00:29:11.100 --> 00:29:15.180 But the white sugar is very safe. 00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:26.420 And since it has none of the problems of fats, it doesn't break down into inflammation-promoting 00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:35.660 material like all fats do if you are under stress and have eaten too many fats. 00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:39.100 So it's safe for diabetics, for example. 00:29:39.100 --> 00:29:49.540 150 years ago in France and England, there were doctors who cured terminal diabetic patients, 00:29:49.540 --> 00:29:55.980 far advanced people wasting away, but by giving them as much sugar as they wanted, which was 00:29:55.980 --> 00:30:04.340 about 11 or 12 ounces of white sugar added to their regular meals of potatoes, beef, 00:30:04.340 --> 00:30:05.900 vegetables and such. 00:30:05.900 --> 00:30:08.700 And they were curing diabetes like that? 00:30:08.700 --> 00:30:09.700 Yeah. 00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:17.540 Two articles on my website describe their experiences. 00:30:17.540 --> 00:30:23.980 How it works is that it suppresses the breakdown of fat in your body. 00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:30.300 And the free fatty acids are constantly, when you're under stress, they are constantly killing 00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:34.740 the pancreatic beta cells that produce insulin. 00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:44.900 And so you have a stressful event, produce free fatty acids, they kill off your insulin-producing 00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:52.780 cells and so you're unable to oxidize the fat and it keeps you under stress. 00:30:52.780 --> 00:30:59.780 And you can break the cycle as those doctors showed by letting them have as much sugar 00:30:59.780 --> 00:31:02.140 as they crave. 00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:07.700 That in itself provides energy. 00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:13.020 Their blood sugar might go up to 400 milligrams per cent, so four or five times higher than 00:31:13.020 --> 00:31:14.020 normal. 00:31:14.020 --> 00:31:19.900 But in doing that, it's providing the cells the energy they need to stop the stress reaction 00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:26.220 and that stops breaking down the fat, which is killing the pancreatic cells. 00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:35.540 And glucose happens to stimulate the creation of stem cells, beta cells in the pancreas. 00:31:35.540 --> 00:31:41.860 So sugar causes the cells to be renewed, free fatty acids kill them. 00:31:41.860 --> 00:31:46.400 And so if you can break the cycle, keep your free fatty acids down, the glucose is going 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.980 to renew your pancreas. 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.900 I guess you're not often asked to speak at the American Diabetic Association dinners? 00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:59.660 No, yeah. Wow, I mean that is so contrary, Dr. Peat, with what's going on in the world 00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:00.660 of diabetes. 00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:09.660 Yeah, about 50, 40, 50 years ago in Israel, some physiologists figured out, realized that 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:13.060 it's free fatty acids that cause diabetes, not sugar. 00:32:13.060 --> 00:32:15.180 Free fatty acids. 00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:20.380 And you produce free fatty acids when you're under stress. 00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:26.940 Patients can't get the glucose into their cells and so they are having the equivalent 00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:33.780 of hypoglycemia, except it's neuroglucopenia. 00:32:33.780 --> 00:32:43.140 Their brain can't get glucose and so it sends out signals to increase the food supply and 00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:47.500 that leads to the breakdown of fat and production of toxins. 00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:54.500 My goodness, so that is why some people could put on fat by taking too much sugar, that 00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:55.500 process, right? 00:32:55.500 --> 00:33:04.620 Oh yeah, if you eat more than you need, you will put on fat for sure. 00:33:04.620 --> 00:33:10.860 I found some organic beet sugar after you kind of recommended possibly that might be 00:33:10.860 --> 00:33:13.580 a good choice, put it in my milk and I really like it. 00:33:13.580 --> 00:33:19.140 I mean it just kind of tastes great and I'm not dying or anything eating sugar so I think 00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:20.140 I'm okay. 00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:26.100 Yeah, and the beet sugars are mostly, some of them are grown in California but a lot 00:33:26.100 --> 00:33:36.780 of it is grown in Idaho and up into the Dakotas and in the mountain areas especially, inland, 00:33:36.780 --> 00:33:48.700 the rainfall is depleted in deuterium and deuterium research in the last, ever since 00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:55.100 1950 actually, but in the last five years there's been new research showing that heavy 00:33:55.100 --> 00:34:08.660 water deuterium is age promoting and when the rainfall has rained out some of the heavy 00:34:08.660 --> 00:34:19.140 water, the inland, the last rain to fall is lighter water and so beet sugar has less deuterium 00:34:19.140 --> 00:34:21.220 than tropical cane sugar. 00:34:21.220 --> 00:34:25.820 That's pretty cool, man I like that because a lot of the beets are up there in that part 00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:29.580 of the world, is that where the big beet producers are? 00:34:29.580 --> 00:34:37.300 A lot of them in Idaho and up in the more inland areas. 00:34:37.300 --> 00:34:45.500 I wonder, do we know how to get deuterium out of the water that we're currently drinking? 00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:57.260 Yeah, it's been done for the nuclear bomb industry for example, but people have been 00:34:57.260 --> 00:35:06.700 trying to figure out ways to do it on a more practical scale, but for many years I've figured 00:35:06.700 --> 00:35:16.140 that taking as much water as possible in the form of milk and orange juice, the cow and 00:35:16.140 --> 00:35:19.580 the orange tree are acting as filters. 00:35:19.580 --> 00:35:27.220 As they age, they accumulate deuterium and the water that passes through them is somewhat 00:35:27.220 --> 00:35:30.020 deuterium depleted. 00:35:30.020 --> 00:35:34.780 So the cows and the oranges could be our deuterium filter? 00:35:34.780 --> 00:35:36.780 That's how I've been doing it. 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:38.700 That's how you've been doing it? 00:35:38.700 --> 00:35:45.020 I don't quite understand how nature, I always like to go back to God or nature, Dr. Peat, would 00:35:45.020 --> 00:35:49.580 come up with water that would have something in there that wouldn't be good for us. 00:35:49.580 --> 00:35:51.540 I mean I don't understand that. 00:35:51.540 --> 00:35:52.540 You know what I'm saying? 00:35:52.540 --> 00:35:59.340 Deuterium, we need water to live, why would there be water that's heavier than what we 00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:00.340 need? 00:36:00.340 --> 00:36:01.340 I'm not sure. 00:36:01.340 --> 00:36:06.940 Nature does tend to filter it out. 00:36:06.940 --> 00:36:07.940 Oh it does? 00:36:07.940 --> 00:36:17.820 The rain process, you evaporate selectively the water with less deuterium and then you 00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:27.460 rain it out selectively so that the last rainfall, the interior of Antarctica has the least deuterium 00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:29.620 in the snowfall. 00:36:29.620 --> 00:36:32.340 The interior. 00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:44.180 But up in the upper interior states of the U.S. around the Dakotas for example, they're 00:36:44.180 --> 00:36:45.180 the most depleted. 00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:46.180 Very interesting. 00:36:46.180 --> 00:36:48.140 Here's an email for you. 00:36:48.140 --> 00:36:53.780 From the 30s through to the peak of maybe in the 70s, many bodybuilders have taken large 00:36:53.780 --> 00:36:59.460 amounts of desiccated liver tablets to reportedly boost their ability to exercise and build 00:36:59.460 --> 00:37:00.460 muscle. 00:37:00.460 --> 00:37:08.060 Does Mr. Peat think there's a possibility of the large amounts of hemi-iron, H-E-M-E, 00:37:08.060 --> 00:37:13.940 iron found in liver becoming a problem of iron toxicity for athletes using high doses 00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:20.380 of these supplements or is that form of iron less likely to cause inflammatory issues and 00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:22.380 relatively safe to use? 00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:31.740 Yeah, the heme group is how we use it in the blood and the iron atom is isolated by the 00:37:31.740 --> 00:37:46.260 carbon framework and so when you eat meat, liver for example, the iron is isolated until 00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:49.900 it gets right into your bloodstream and cells. 00:37:49.900 --> 00:38:00.980 But if you take an iron supplement, the free iron ions react in your stomach for example. 00:38:00.980 --> 00:38:09.660 People have analyzed multiple vitamin mineral capsules or tablets and found that they were 00:38:09.660 --> 00:38:20.140 adding iron in a tablet or capsule along with vitamin A and B12 and so on and the vitamins 00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:24.620 were destroyed right in the tablet before it was taken. 00:38:24.620 --> 00:38:33.020 But if that same thing happens in your stomach, if you take an ionized iron form, it will 00:38:33.020 --> 00:38:39.780 destroy the nutrients in your stomach or intestine before they're even ingested. 00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:44.020 Speaking of bodybuilders, have you ever seen, Dr. Peat, anything over the years that people 00:38:44.020 --> 00:38:48.100 that want to just build muscles and are working at it, you know, kind of focused on it for 00:38:48.100 --> 00:38:55.260 whatever reason, to take supplementally that would help them and not cause them any harm? 00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:56.260 Anything? 00:38:56.260 --> 00:39:08.860 Well, doing the exercise in a proper way so you don't lower your androgens will make the 00:39:08.860 --> 00:39:14.340 exercise more efficient at restoring tissue. 00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:27.340 But the anti-stress program, everything that keeps your cortisol low, leaves the androgens 00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:32.900 such as testosterone and DHEA active. 00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:39.500 Keeping the cortisol low is something that the Germans discovered in the 1960s and they 00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:48.340 were accused of doping because their androgen level seemed impossibly high for an athlete. 00:39:48.340 --> 00:39:55.380 But it turns out that if you just don't exercise so hard, your androgens are much higher. 00:39:55.380 --> 00:40:04.180 So they figured out a way how to kind of strengthen the muscle, put pressure on it, resistance 00:40:04.180 --> 00:40:11.340 on it, but not too much so the cortisol level didn't get too high, which turned it around 00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:12.340 the other way. 00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:21.020 Yeah, the muscle, when it's properly stimulated, is actually producing testosterone or androgens. 00:40:21.020 --> 00:40:25.100 But if it's stressed, the muscle turns around and produces cortisol. 00:40:25.100 --> 00:40:26.100 Wow. 00:40:26.100 --> 00:40:29.660 How do we learn how to produce, do the muscle the right way? 00:40:29.660 --> 00:40:31.940 Is there a way to do that? 00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:37.940 The concentric contraction is one thing that protects the muscle. 00:40:37.940 --> 00:40:50.180 If you lift a weight and then drop it without letting it down gradually, it's the lengthening 00:40:50.180 --> 00:40:55.260 of the muscle under stress that damages the muscle. 00:40:55.260 --> 00:41:05.700 And so if you walk or run uphill, the dominant action is concentric. 00:41:05.700 --> 00:41:13.160 But if you walk downhill, that injures the muscle because you're stretching the muscle 00:41:13.160 --> 00:41:14.820 under pressure. 00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:22.760 So concentric contraction actually strengthens the muscle, makes it bigger. 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.060 And that would be when you pull the weight up, say you have a 25-pound weight down at 00:41:27.060 --> 00:41:31.940 the bottom and you're pulling it up and you're doing a curl, would that be concentric? 00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:32.940 Yeah. 00:41:32.940 --> 00:41:36.420 And then if you just drop it down slow, you're saying that just makes it... 00:41:36.420 --> 00:41:47.380 That's stretching the muscle while it resists, and that's doing microscopic damage. 00:41:47.380 --> 00:41:51.860 It damages the mitochondria, so it produces less energy. 00:41:51.860 --> 00:41:58.340 And they've shown that in old people doing concentric contractions only, they can create 00:41:58.340 --> 00:42:02.420 new mitochondria and restore the energy system. 00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:03.420 That's pretty cool. 00:42:03.420 --> 00:42:05.380 Is there any way to do that without just dropping the weight? 00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:06.380 I guess I don't know. 00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:07.380 How else would you do it? 00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:09.180 How else would you do it? 00:42:09.180 --> 00:42:14.820 They make machines that will do it, or you can ride a bicycle uphill and coast downhill. 00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:17.300 Oh, that's cool. 00:42:17.300 --> 00:42:21.320 But if you were doing like a chin-up, I like to do pull-ups, right? 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.180 So if I pull up, that's my concentric. 00:42:25.180 --> 00:42:30.220 So how would I get out of there without going the other way? 00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:35.020 Yeah, the gravity is stretching the resisting muscle. 00:42:35.020 --> 00:42:37.820 I have to think about that. 00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:39.060 Maybe I could just drop, right? 00:42:39.060 --> 00:42:40.060 Just drop. 00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:43.060 Yeah, but you don't want to... 00:42:43.060 --> 00:42:46.700 No, but I wouldn't do that. 00:42:46.700 --> 00:42:51.560 The stress on your legs of dropping is probably counterproductive. 00:42:51.560 --> 00:42:53.280 I'll think about that one. 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.280 Here's one for you. 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:55.280 This is a good one. 00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.400 Along with diet and lifestyle that actively reduces serotonin levels, are there any foods 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.840 and supplements that people experiencing a sharp deficiency of dopamine can use to safely 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.640 restore the body's healthy levels? 00:43:09.640 --> 00:43:11.480 To restore dopamine? 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:12.480 That's right. 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:13.480 Let's see supplements. 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:14.480 Yeah. 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.480 Reducing... 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:16.480 Yeah. 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:26.880 I think the important thing is to limit your tryptophan intake as far as you can without 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:28.920 becoming protein deficient. 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:35.760 That's why I advocate gelatin because gelatin contains no tryptophan, which is the source 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:36.760 for serotonin. 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:43.680 Ah, so that gelatin has the protein without the tryptophan. 00:43:43.680 --> 00:43:47.360 Yeah, and it has the precursor for dopamine. 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.800 I thought we'd need a tryptophan to go to sleep. 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.840 No, not really. 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:56.560 It can, like histamine, too much serotonin keeps you awake. 00:43:56.560 --> 00:44:04.040 What's the, generally the missing hormones that folks who have insomnia, sleep problems, 00:44:04.040 --> 00:44:08.880 which is epidemic in our culture, what are those hormones that are missing? 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.880 Can those just be taken supplementally to help? 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.480 Thyroid actually is the main thing. 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.640 Thyroid, wow. 00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:25.840 Many years ago, sleep researchers found that some people never got below the second level 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:33.600 of the four stages of sleep, and thyroid deficient people went through the night without ever 00:44:33.600 --> 00:44:37.920 reaching the deep sleep stages. 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:47.880 And I found myself on a trip when I would have trouble going to sleep from driving all 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:57.480 day, that if I took five or ten micrograms of T3 thyroid, I would go to sleep perfectly 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.320 in about five minutes. 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:03.680 Oh, just a little hit of that T3, five to ten grams? 00:45:03.680 --> 00:45:04.680 Micrograms. 00:45:04.680 --> 00:45:06.240 Micrograms, wow. 00:45:06.240 --> 00:45:07.240 Yeah. 00:45:07.240 --> 00:45:09.920 A microgram is what, a thousandths of a gram? 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:10.920 Yeah. 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:11.920 Wow, that's... 00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.040 No, a millionths of a gram. 00:45:14.040 --> 00:45:15.040 Wow. 00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:21.800 How much would five to ten, I mean, that would be just like a very small, small, small amount, 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:22.800 wouldn't it? 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:29.000 Yeah, they make little tablets that are five or ten micrograms. 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.000 Of T3? 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:31.000 Yeah. 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:38.400 And I've seen it work several times in other people. 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:46.280 I always feel free to give thyroid to doctors because they are supposed to know how to handle 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:47.280 it. 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:58.920 But doctors with pain, pains that they couldn't control, or insomnia, have remarks that they've 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:05.360 never seen such quick relief, better than morphine, one doctor said. 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.240 When he supplemented with the T3? 00:46:07.240 --> 00:46:08.240 Wow. 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:09.880 Here's a question for Dr. Ray Peat. 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:15.520 What does increasing thyroid have on testosterone and vice versa? 00:46:15.520 --> 00:46:22.320 The effect of increasing testosterone on thyroid levels, also the relative amount of increase 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.080 someone might expect to see, and any difference in men and women. 00:46:27.080 --> 00:46:32.240 So let's see, increasing thyroid have on testosterone and vice versa? 00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:45.560 Yeah, too much thyroid can create stress and make your testosterone become wasted or not 00:46:45.560 --> 00:46:47.520 produced. 00:46:47.520 --> 00:46:55.880 Not enough thyroid will cause the testosterone to be converted into estrogen. 00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:07.200 Estrogen blocks the secretion of thyroid from the gland and testosterone overlaps with progesterone. 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:15.240 Progesterone has a powerfully releasing function on the thyroid gland so that when it has been 00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:21.440 blocked by estrogen, a dose of progesterone can reactivate the gland. 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:29.000 Estrogen has some of that supporting function for the thyroid, but not as effective as progesterone. 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.000 Well done. 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.120 What does Dr. Peat recommend for corns and calluses? 00:47:35.120 --> 00:47:37.440 Do you know anything about corns and calluses? 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:44.400 Oh, putting something on to soften the callus, I think, is the main thing. 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:52.000 That's the cause, bad shoes cause the callus to form. 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:59.680 So if you get the right kind of shoe and then put something on to soften the material. 00:47:59.680 --> 00:48:04.840 Salicylic acid and urea are things that have commonly been used. 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.360 Thanks for having Dr. Peat on once a month. 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:07.360 Well, you're welcome. 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:08.360 It's our pleasure. 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:09.360 Thank Dr. Peat. 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.960 How do we take the edge off of learned helplessness? 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:22.720 In one of my newsletters, I went over several of the things that they've tested in animals. 00:48:22.720 --> 00:48:31.520 Thyroid hormone is one, progesterone is another, an improved diet that shifts you away slightly 00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:40.160 from the serotonin side of things because serotonin is at the heart of learned helplessness. 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:48.240 Harm avoidance is how one psychologist described the serotonin dominant condition, but learned 00:48:48.240 --> 00:48:51.280 helplessness is the extreme of harm avoidance. 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.760 What is learned helplessness? 00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:01.400 With animals, they would torture them and not let them escape whatever the awful situation 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:09.560 was such as being thrown into a tank of water and forced to swim or drown. 00:49:09.560 --> 00:49:19.000 If they had never had the experience before being put in a hopeless situation, animals 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.120 would sometimes let themselves drown in just a few minutes. 00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:31.120 But if they had ever been in a situation like that, they managed to escape after being threatened 00:49:31.120 --> 00:49:34.320 with a deadly condition. 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:42.360 One escape experience would change their perspective, which would change their physiology so that 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:49.280 they would then be able to sometimes swim for a whole day, many hours instead of just 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:50.280 a few minutes. 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:59.280 So that is one of the interesting aspects of physiology that is usually, well, almost 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:06.800 never considered in medicine, but it can make a difference between resisting for maybe five 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.840 minutes or for 10 or 15 hours. 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:17.680 A total difference in ability to survive just by changing your mental picture of how things 00:50:17.680 --> 00:50:18.680 work. 00:50:18.680 --> 00:50:19.680 How things work. 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:20.680 Wow. 00:50:20.680 --> 00:50:21.680 Man, oh man, oh man. 00:50:21.680 --> 00:50:22.680 Hi, Dr. Peat and Patrick. 00:50:22.680 --> 00:50:29.400 Can Dr. Peat comment on how hydrogen might work with the oxygen and possibly CO2? 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.280 Does hydrogen affect the thyroid? 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:33.560 It seems to work. 00:50:33.560 --> 00:50:40.440 The body has dehydrogenase enzymes that are in the habit of receiving their electrons 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.920 from fat or sugar metabolism. 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:50.000 But some people believe that they can receive electrons directly from molecular hydrogen 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:58.120 and that seems to fit with the experience of using hydrogen gas as an anti-inflammatory 00:50:58.120 --> 00:51:01.840 agent during surgery, for example. 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.040 It seems to reduce the inflammation and stress. 00:51:05.040 --> 00:51:08.760 Yes, they're using it in some places for stroke victims. 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.160 You know, after stroke, they feed them the hydrogen along with the oxygen and it helps 00:51:12.160 --> 00:51:14.280 them to recover faster. 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:20.680 Yes, in my interpretation of what's happening, it's working the way sugar does. 00:51:20.680 --> 00:51:26.240 Sugar provides a very generous amount of electron energy. 00:51:26.240 --> 00:51:29.880 Hydrogen does that directly bypassing some of the enzymes. 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:30.880 Very interesting. 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.600 So, you know, on the CO2, she had mentioned that. 00:51:34.600 --> 00:51:36.160 So people don't do that anymore. 00:51:36.160 --> 00:51:42.280 You said the fire department did the CO2 for people years ago, but nobody does that anymore? 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:43.880 CO2 with oxygen? 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:51.440 I have heard of two or three hospitals in the United States and several in Europe. 00:51:51.440 --> 00:52:03.120 Germany, about 30 years ago, someone said that her father had a stroke while traveling. 00:52:03.120 --> 00:52:10.920 He was 90 years old or so and went into a hospital in Germany and they put him on carbon 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.320 dioxide therapy. 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:19.000 He recovered and went back to finish his world tour. 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:26.680 But it's still pretty widely used in Germany and Eastern Europe. 00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:30.400 Dr. Ray Peat is with us, Patrick Timpone, OneRadioNetwork.com. 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.960 He's here on the third Tuesday. 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:33.960 Good for us. 00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:34.960 Good for us. 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.520 Here's a good one for you. 00:52:36.520 --> 00:52:42.720 Some sources advise that wearing a hat to keep the head warm slows the aging process. 00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:44.960 Would there be anything to this? 00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:45.960 Yeah. 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:52.000 Also, putting on a soft wool cap for sleeping. 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:58.480 The head is the most intensely metabolizing organ. 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:03.000 The kidneys and the heart and the brain have a very high metabolic rate. 00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:07.920 And so your head loses a lot of energy. 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:18.160 And big animals, one of the reasons they live longer is that their geometry has less surface 00:53:18.160 --> 00:53:20.360 area for losing heat. 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:29.640 A mouse has very little mass to surface and so they radiate a tremendous and lose by conduction 00:53:29.640 --> 00:53:35.000 to the air a tremendous fraction of their biological energy. 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:40.360 So in effect, they're living beyond their means. 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:46.120 They spend energy faster than they can use it, in fact. 00:53:46.120 --> 00:53:56.000 And putting a nice woolly hat on either in the daytime or at night is reducing the stress, 00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:00.120 basically making you keep more of your heat. 00:54:00.120 --> 00:54:10.620 At the average temperature, 70 degrees, a person is losing more than half of their body 00:54:10.620 --> 00:54:16.640 energy according to some experiments by radiation, not just by skin contact. 00:54:16.640 --> 00:54:17.640 At the top of their head? 00:54:17.640 --> 00:54:23.160 No, all of their body is losing it, but the head is the hottest. 00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:28.680 And so it's the worst leak of energy. 00:54:28.680 --> 00:54:33.080 Perhaps that's where some of the old, you see some of the old time way back where people 00:54:33.080 --> 00:54:35.920 would wear these caps to sleep or something. 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:36.920 Maybe that's what that was about. 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:42.080 Oh yeah, I've been recommending a sleeping cap for a long time. 00:54:42.080 --> 00:54:43.480 Oh, so you're all into this stuff. 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:44.480 I had no idea. 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:45.480 A sleeping cap. 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.880 I didn't even know you could buy a sleeping cap. 00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.880 They should be soft wool. 00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.720 Soft wool, yeah. 00:54:52.720 --> 00:54:58.280 I bought some nice soft wool, beautiful organic socks to prepare for last winter because I 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.440 don't have any heat in my home, Doc. 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.960 And there's only one problem with that. 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:08.120 If you wash them and dry them, they're big enough to fit on your dog. 00:55:08.120 --> 00:55:10.720 You don't want to do that. 00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:15.640 I wasted like 30 bucks for these socks and I washed them and dried them and they reduced 00:55:15.640 --> 00:55:18.640 about 20% of the original size. 00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:20.400 Oh my goodness. 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.880 If you rinse them in cold water. 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.240 That's the way to do it, right? 00:55:24.240 --> 00:55:25.240 Yeah. 00:55:25.240 --> 00:55:27.840 You can't just take a white thing or use a cold water and just hang them up. 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.480 Well, I'm going to do that if I buy another pair. 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.880 But wool's kind of good for those kind of things. 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:33.880 Why is that? 00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:37.680 The shape of the fiber. 00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:47.120 Cotton is good but some wool has been treated too that isn't really as good as the crude 00:55:47.120 --> 00:55:48.960 natural wool. 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:54.800 There's something about the organic wool and pillows that they advertise about, let's see, 00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:59.520 wicking the perspiration a little bit and doesn't absorb in there. 00:55:59.520 --> 00:56:00.520 Something like that. 00:56:00.520 --> 00:56:01.520 Is there something to that? 00:56:01.520 --> 00:56:02.520 Supposedly, yeah. 00:56:02.520 --> 00:56:06.160 The wool fiber has a catalytic function. 00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:12.400 I think it's not quite as good as activated charcoal. 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:16.480 It can have a bacteria suppressing effect. 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:24.680 Wood fiber, butcher block made out of natural wood has a self-sanitizing effect because 00:56:24.680 --> 00:56:36.600 the structure of the wood cellulose units is toxic to bacteria. 00:56:36.600 --> 00:56:42.580 I think the wool microscopic structure has that same bacteria suppressing effect. 00:56:42.580 --> 00:56:47.040 On the butcher block, does that still work if you put some kind of a surface on it like 00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:50.680 they like to do or do you have to just leave it a la just wood? 00:56:50.680 --> 00:56:59.800 Yeah, it has to be a natural structured wood, anything that seals the fine cellulose structure. 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:07.280 That'll stain up pretty well though, won't it probably? 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:11.760 The traditional blocks I've seen looked clean after many years. 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:19.840 What does the doctor think is a good way to improve libido in men and women after age 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:27.800 40 is taking DHA, progesterone, pregnenolone, a good approach? 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:29.680 If they're in the right quantity. 00:57:29.680 --> 00:57:38.000 I've known a couple of aging men who took 25 milligram tablets of DHEA and their estrogen 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:46.080 became as high as a young cycling woman and their liver's enlarged. 00:57:46.080 --> 00:57:52.120 So you don't want to take more of the androgen than is optimal. 00:57:52.120 --> 00:58:02.920 Like a young man produces about 12 milligrams per day of DHEA and about four or five milligrams 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.240 of testosterone. 00:58:05.240 --> 00:58:12.120 So if a person takes more than that amount, it's going to raise their estrogen and have 00:58:12.120 --> 00:58:15.240 a counterproductive effect. 00:58:15.240 --> 00:58:18.240 Estrogen is the safest one to use. 00:58:18.240 --> 00:58:23.720 I experimented for a year taking about an average of three or four thousand milligrams 00:58:23.720 --> 00:58:25.480 of pregnenolone per day. 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:27.600 I had no side effects at all. 00:58:27.600 --> 00:58:29.240 Three or four thousand milligrams? 00:58:29.240 --> 00:58:34.080 Yeah, where 30 milligrams is a full replacement dose. 00:58:34.080 --> 00:58:36.200 I was just for fun taking it. 00:58:36.200 --> 00:58:37.200 Just for fun. 00:58:37.200 --> 00:58:38.200 And what did you experience? 00:58:38.200 --> 00:58:42.480 I mean, were there good benefits from taking that much pregnenolone? 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:47.840 Very high stress resistance, felt very good. 00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:48.840 Pregnenolone. 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:49.840 Pretty safe. 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.280 You did three to four thousand milligrams a day for years? 00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:55.280 For one year. 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.200 I ate a kilogram. 00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:02.320 I had brought back a kilogram from Mexico and I ate it during one year. 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:08.400 And it helps your body to deal with stressful situations better? 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.760 Yeah, that was my experiment. 00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:18.120 My skin was sort of rejuvenated looking during that year. 00:59:18.120 --> 00:59:23.960 I had got saggy skin around my eyes and that snapped back into shape. 00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:24.960 With the pregnenolone? 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:25.960 Yeah. 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:26.960 Interesting. 00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:33.160 Is Dr. Peat familiar with centrophenoxene? 00:59:33.160 --> 00:59:39.160 Centrophenoxene, a way to remove lipofusion from the brain. 00:59:39.160 --> 00:59:43.960 There's a study with rats that Damas is working. 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.080 If not, I don't know. 00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:50.280 Could his research for the next show or give his opinion? 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:51.280 Or that claims it's working. 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:52.280 Sorry, I misread that. 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:53.680 That claims it's working. 00:59:53.680 --> 01:00:03.160 I've seen the experiments described, but I studied the production and metabolism of 01:00:03.160 --> 01:00:06.000 lipofuscon as part of my thesis. 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.960 And so I've been interested in it for a long time. 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:17.000 One group found that vitamin E was removing it from nerve cells, which is much safer than 01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:18.760 centrophenoxene. 01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:27.720 But after they demonstrated that their vitamin E treatment was doing it, they did a control 01:00:27.720 --> 01:00:28.720 test. 01:00:28.720 --> 01:00:36.880 They had been administering vitamin E dissolved in ethanol and their ethanol control removed 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:44.000 the lipofuscon almost as well as the vitamin E in ethanol. 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:51.560 So a very tiny amount of alcohol seems to do the job very safely like vitamin E. 01:00:51.560 --> 01:00:52.560 Excellent. 01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:53.560 Excellent. 01:00:53.560 --> 01:00:54.560 Here's a good one. 01:00:54.560 --> 01:01:01.760 You know, many people are proponents of taking black cumin seed oil fairly regular for overgrowth 01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.680 of candida and other fungus and bacterial. 01:01:04.680 --> 01:01:09.480 Does Dr. Peat have any experience with black cumin seed oil? 01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:10.960 No experience at all. 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:12.380 Nothing at all. 01:01:12.380 --> 01:01:18.160 But I've had a lot of experience with flowers of sulfur and candida and other fungus. 01:01:18.160 --> 01:01:21.200 You mentioned that before, flowers of sulfur. 01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:23.320 What is that exactly? 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:33.520 It's precipitated or anything that produces a microscopically fine powder. 01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:37.320 Ground crystalline sulfur does not work. 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.640 It has to be the non-crystalline fumed or precipitated sulfur. 01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:46.840 They call it flowers of sulfur. 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:48.600 That's like an antibiotic, isn't it? 01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:49.600 Did you say? 01:01:49.600 --> 01:02:01.360 Well, the fungus has exoenzymes that it secretes as part of its nutritional program. 01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:10.720 These enzymes convert the sulfane form in the flowers of sulfur into sulfuric acid or 01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:13.200 hydrogen sulfide first. 01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:18.260 The hydrogen sulfide acts locally on the fungus to poison it. 01:02:18.260 --> 01:02:24.280 The trace amount of hydrogen sulfide that it produces in your intestine, for example, 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.360 has simply an antioxidant function. 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:36.480 Hydrogen sulfide is one of our intrinsic substances like nitric oxide. 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.840 It's produced by our own enzymes. 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.560 So we tolerate it and it has an antioxidant function. 01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:48.780 But locally for the fungus cell, it's very poisonous. 01:02:48.780 --> 01:02:54.860 So the fungus kills itself by the way it metabolizes sulfur. 01:02:54.860 --> 01:02:55.860 Excellent. 01:02:55.860 --> 01:03:00.260 Dr. Ray P. Patrick Timpone, we're going to wrap it up and do a quick little break 01:03:00.260 --> 01:03:02.620 and then we're going to get all the rest of the emails. 01:03:02.620 --> 01:03:05.500 So stay right there on OneRadioNetwork.com. 01:03:05.500 --> 01:03:12.100 Did you know the AquaCure Browns Gas Machine reduces oxidative stress? 01:03:12.100 --> 01:03:17.380 Oxidation is the world's best antioxidant by a long shot. 01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:23.480 First of all, it's 700 times smaller than something like CoQ10, 400 times smaller than 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.060 vitamin C, things like that. 01:03:25.060 --> 01:03:29.820 So it can literally go, the hydrogen molecule can literally go through everything in your 01:03:29.820 --> 01:03:33.060 body and go right into the very DNA and repair it. 01:03:33.060 --> 01:03:38.740 First of all, you're repairing oxidative damage, but you're also reducing or eliminating free 01:03:38.740 --> 01:03:39.740 radicals. 01:03:39.740 --> 01:03:43.700 And there are only the bad free radicals, which is another reason why hydrogen is good 01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:47.220 because you actually have free radicals in your body that you want to keep. 01:03:47.220 --> 01:03:48.420 Example nitrous oxide. 01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:55.080 The oxidative stress, is that the main thing that damages the DNA and causes the regeneration 01:03:55.080 --> 01:03:59.420 to stop, you know, euthane or getting older, immune organs? 01:03:59.420 --> 01:04:04.080 Is that at the base, George Weissman, of most of the issues? 01:04:04.080 --> 01:04:05.080 It's one of the bases. 01:04:05.080 --> 01:04:06.080 Just one of them. 01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:09.800 It comes back to that regeneration thing that I was talking about. 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:11.160 The cells won't regenerate. 01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:15.080 You won't have stem cells and that sort of thing if you haven't got enough hydrogen. 01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:19.360 And if our body is not generating enough hydrogen, we get dehydrated. 01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:21.960 The hydrated lack of hydrogen. 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:26.000 The AquaCure machine, 10% off, promo code OneRadio. 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:32.040 Use the promo code OneRadio, 10% off in our store, oneradionetwork.com. 01:04:32.040 --> 01:04:37.760 Wayne Blakely, you have a wide variety of different products that we promote. 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.520 I think there's 14 different ones, if that's correct. 01:04:40.520 --> 01:04:41.520 Why so many? 01:04:41.520 --> 01:04:43.440 I mean, isn't a probiotic just a probiotic? 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:48.920 No, there is well known, there's 28 probiotics out there that all help the body. 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.920 That really help the body. 01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:53.840 They're supposed to be in a healthy human being, including the bacilluses, which are 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.680 the lactic acid producers. 01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:57.160 They produce food nutrients. 01:04:57.160 --> 01:05:00.560 And then there's bifidobacterium that helps form the molecules correctly. 01:05:00.560 --> 01:05:04.640 So there's different aspects of what you need, like for instance, alfalfa. 01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:05.640 Alfalfa is a great product. 01:05:05.640 --> 01:05:11.200 It's got high in vitamin K, high in vitamin A, and it's totally safe to consume alfalfa. 01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:13.360 The problem with alfalfa, it's hard to digest. 01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:18.640 So we take alfalfa, pre-digest it into amino acids, enzymes, amino acids, so our body can 01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:20.440 simulate it much quicker. 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.760 It's great for vascular system, bone production, things like that. 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:24.760 Oh, that's great. 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.280 Alfalfa, that's just one of the many products you'll see in this store. 01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:33.440 The Living Streams products on oneradionetwork.com. 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:39.400 Also they have a moringa, and that comes in the, I think it's a half quart, maybe a quart. 01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:40.640 I think it's a quart. 01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:45.720 And moringa, well, there's a lot of cool things going on with moringa. 01:05:45.720 --> 01:05:50.600 And again, Wayne was able to put it into a form with the probiotics where it's digestible 01:05:50.600 --> 01:05:52.080 and it's all broken down. 01:05:52.080 --> 01:05:57.520 And you can actually, I mean, they sell moringa powder, moringa tinctures, all kinds of stuff. 01:05:57.520 --> 01:06:01.840 We think this is a really cool way to get moringa. 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:06.160 And you can read about all the benefits, and it's a food, and like the alfalfa, I think 01:06:06.160 --> 01:06:08.920 you do pretty fun and play around with it. 01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:10.440 Sometimes I just take big swigs of it. 01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.440 I kind of like doing it. 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.640 I don't know, it'd be fun to do an experiment and really like doing a lot of moringa, you 01:06:15.640 --> 01:06:20.360 know, over a year or so, like Dr. Peat does sometimes, but I haven't done that yet. 01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:23.440 Anyway, there's some cool things there in our store. 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:31.600 Mainstreams, two of the foods are the moringa and the alfalfa in our store, oneradionetwork.com. 01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:37.400 We talk about your health, wealth, and well-being on oneradionetwork.com. 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:41.920 The third Tuesday of the month, Dr. Ray Peat has allotted some time for us, and we're very 01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.120 grateful, Dr. Peat, that you do this. 01:06:44.120 --> 01:06:45.920 Thank you so much. 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:52.440 Oh, here's somebody who wants to know if you get mucus drinking all that milk. 01:06:52.440 --> 01:07:05.320 Mucus is our first defense barrier against alien substances, so our mouth, nose, respiratory 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:12.280 tract, intestine, everything is coated with a protective layer of mucus. 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:21.240 And if you get bad milk or if you're allergic to something in the milk, you will produce 01:07:21.240 --> 01:07:24.080 a copious amount. 01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:34.080 When I eat lettuce, for example, I get a very congested cough, a tremendous amount of mucus. 01:07:34.080 --> 01:07:35.080 Interesting. 01:07:35.080 --> 01:07:41.600 And anything that irritates your digestive system, raw vegetables are one of the worst 01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:44.160 things for irritation. 01:07:44.160 --> 01:07:51.520 But if a person is allergic to something in the milk, it will produce more mucus than 01:07:51.520 --> 01:07:52.520 normal. 01:07:52.520 --> 01:08:01.960 But I think a lot of people just don't like the concept of consuming an animal secretion. 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:04.880 Yes, I understand. 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.840 But doesn't mucus coat all the stomach and everything? 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:10.800 Isn't that one of the protective things? 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:11.800 Yeah. 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:18.360 For example, our stomach digestive acid would digest our stomach. 01:08:18.360 --> 01:08:20.520 Mucus protects against it. 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:27.240 And mucus catches histamine, for example, and should protect against it. 01:08:27.240 --> 01:08:34.320 Well, in my little milk thing, Doc, I had a big, big tablespoon of charcoal. 01:08:34.320 --> 01:08:37.640 It felt like that really settled things down pretty quickly. 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:38.640 It was miraculous. 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:40.760 Boy, it's good to have that around. 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.640 Is it an activated charcoal? 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:43.640 Yeah. 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:49.080 It not only binds toxins, but it can chemically break them down. 01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:50.080 Really? 01:08:50.080 --> 01:08:51.080 Wow. 01:08:51.080 --> 01:08:52.080 Or especially if you're traveling, right? 01:08:52.080 --> 01:08:54.200 Have some of that charcoal, you never know. 01:08:54.200 --> 01:08:55.200 Yeah. 01:08:55.200 --> 01:08:56.440 Why don't you come up? 01:08:56.440 --> 01:08:57.720 Here's one for you. 01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:03.960 Doesn't sugar rip arterial walls, which cholesterol then patches up? 01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:04.960 No. 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:05.960 No? 01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:06.960 Sugar, sugar, you say? 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:07.960 Sugar. 01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:08.960 That's what the email was saying. 01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:09.960 Sugar. 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:10.960 Sugar. 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:11.960 No. 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:12.960 No? 01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:13.960 Doesn't do that. 01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:19.120 So the whole metabolic syndrome of too many carbs producing sugar that inflames the arteries, 01:09:19.120 --> 01:09:26.440 then the cholesterol comes in, that's just not a valid meme, paradigm? 01:09:26.440 --> 01:09:28.000 Yeah. 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:33.600 Thousands of years ago, doctors noticed that people with what they called diabetes had 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:39.040 sweet urine, and so they called it the sugar disease. 01:09:39.040 --> 01:09:50.800 In the 19th century, the sugar disease, since sugar was on the market by 1800, doctors said, 01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:58.640 "Oh, you mustn't let the patient with sugar disease have any sugar at all." 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:06.000 And so they would lock the sugar and carbohydrate away from them, which was the thing they most 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:07.000 craved. 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:16.600 And this doctor in Paris, just not to be cruel, he thought it was cruel to let a person die 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.640 without a taste of what they most craved. 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:26.480 And so he, just to be humane to his patients, let them have their sugar, since he knew they 01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:28.680 were going to die of their diabetes. 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:35.000 But when they got all the sugar they wanted, they didn't die. 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.840 That was what they call now type 1 diabetes. 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:47.920 Diabetes, as originally defined, was a wasting disease in which you couldn't build tissue 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:52.000 because of the absence of insulin. 01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:59.440 And so you turned your muscles to sugar, and the sugar was lost in the urine, and so it 01:10:59.440 --> 01:11:07.760 was a rapidly fatal disease, which they interrupted by giving them all the sugar they wanted. 01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:08.760 Absolutely. 01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:13.320 So the fasting blood sugar with the blood prick, you know, that thing, and then the 01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:18.880 A1C on a blood test, you're suggesting that these numbers are, use your term, are they 01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:20.840 meaningless? 01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:22.520 Somewhat meaningless. 01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:30.920 If you interpret them properly, you would then say what's happening to the sugar. 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.600 Why is the person making this sugar? 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:42.320 And you would then look for the fatty acids in the blood and the amount of lactic acid 01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:50.560 to see if they were wasting any sugar that they were using, and how much oxygen they 01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.040 were using, and carbon dioxide in the blood. 01:11:54.040 --> 01:11:59.960 All of the relevant things should be tested, as well as the insulin. 01:11:59.960 --> 01:12:03.880 Would be good to know how much insulin there is. 01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:13.320 But people are often put on insulin treatment or other diabetic drug without measuring those 01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:17.580 things, so they don't actually know what they're suffering from. 01:12:17.580 --> 01:12:22.220 So you're suggesting an A1C may be a viable thing to look at in the blood test, but you 01:12:22.220 --> 01:12:27.000 have to look at other things like the lactic and the fatty and really make a determination 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:33.580 of what that is saying, rather than just saying high A1C is bad and cut back on sugar. 01:12:33.580 --> 01:12:42.360 Because that actually is more an indicator of fatty acid, unsaturated fatty acid breakdown. 01:12:42.360 --> 01:12:51.060 The glycation of proteins is not really glycation in most cases. 01:12:51.060 --> 01:12:58.540 It's really a chemical reaction produced by the small fragments of polyunsaturated fats 01:12:58.540 --> 01:13:05.420 that are breaking down, producing things like acrolein, which reacts and attaches to proteins 01:13:05.420 --> 01:13:09.820 and is interpreted as glycation. 01:13:09.820 --> 01:13:13.260 And from fat is what most of it is. 01:13:13.260 --> 01:13:14.260 Here's a comment for you. 01:13:14.260 --> 01:13:16.940 I bought 50 pounds of white sugar a couple days ago. 01:13:16.940 --> 01:13:24.500 I get the benefits of the sugar and get my exercise by lifting the 10 pound bags as well. 01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:30.420 I buy 20 pound bags when people in the supermarket glare at me. 01:13:30.420 --> 01:13:32.160 They say, "What are you doing eating that sugar? 01:13:32.160 --> 01:13:35.620 You know you're going to kill yourself, fellow." 01:13:35.620 --> 01:13:39.500 That's hilarious. 01:13:39.500 --> 01:13:45.860 So what's the difference, like honey, maple syrup, what's the difference with these foods? 01:13:45.860 --> 01:13:49.660 Are these guys generally good guys? 01:13:49.660 --> 01:13:58.100 They contain lots of nutrients, but the trouble is that they're produced by high temperature 01:13:58.100 --> 01:14:04.340 dehydration to make them concentrated in syrupy from the thin sap. 01:14:04.340 --> 01:14:06.740 Oh, the maple syrup, yeah. 01:14:06.740 --> 01:14:07.740 Yeah. 01:14:07.740 --> 01:14:13.980 And the heating process, since the natural sap contains some amino acids and proteins, 01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:23.740 when you heat sugar in the presence of amino acids, you get brown toxic material. 01:14:23.740 --> 01:14:28.700 And it's the brown stuff which is allergenic and slightly toxic. 01:14:28.700 --> 01:14:31.540 So if you're going to do honey, you want to make sure you're going to do honey that's 01:14:31.540 --> 01:14:34.740 never been, no heat whatsoever, just honey. 01:14:34.740 --> 01:14:38.860 Well, pasteurization temperature is fine, doesn't cause that. 01:14:38.860 --> 01:14:41.300 Oh, you can actually pasteurize honey? 01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:46.940 Yeah, but when it reaches close to the boiling temperature. 01:14:46.940 --> 01:14:47.940 That's not good. 01:14:47.940 --> 01:14:51.980 I often get optic migraines, writes Robert. 01:14:51.980 --> 01:14:58.740 I think that is what they are called, where the vision gets like a wavy underwater or 01:14:58.740 --> 01:15:01.780 wavy mirror-like, the ones like in a circus. 01:15:01.780 --> 01:15:04.620 I've been trying to figure out what causes them. 01:15:04.620 --> 01:15:07.420 They often go away in about three to 10 minutes. 01:15:07.420 --> 01:15:11.500 Stress, mold, toxins, any ideas I can look for? 01:15:11.500 --> 01:15:19.860 Yeah, the intestine is usually a trigger, but it's when you're not getting circulation 01:15:19.860 --> 01:15:26.220 to a part of your optic part of your brain, right close to where your optic nerve enters 01:15:26.220 --> 01:15:28.260 your brain. 01:15:28.260 --> 01:15:30.860 You're having blood vessel spasms. 01:15:30.860 --> 01:15:33.300 And serotonin is involved. 01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:41.460 Serotonin and sugar are first aid for that, getting your serotonin under control. 01:15:41.460 --> 01:15:47.500 Thyroid is long-range preventive by keeping your carbon dioxide up. 01:15:47.500 --> 01:15:51.220 It keeps the serotonin under control. 01:15:51.220 --> 01:15:54.740 There's a really cool little product where you can get coconut, organic coconut milk 01:15:54.740 --> 01:15:57.740 with organic sugar and kind of a treat. 01:15:57.740 --> 01:15:59.460 And no wonder my body likes that stuff. 01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:00.980 I mean, that's pretty good food, right? 01:16:00.980 --> 01:16:03.700 Little sugar, little coconuts, holy cow. 01:16:03.700 --> 01:16:04.700 Yeah. 01:16:04.700 --> 01:16:05.700 Yeah. 01:16:05.700 --> 01:16:14.340 I've known quite a few people who have taken sugar to sick relatives who were in the hospital 01:16:14.340 --> 01:16:18.740 being deprived of anything tasty. 01:16:18.740 --> 01:16:26.940 And one person who was in very bad condition had a couple tablespoons of honey, got up 01:16:26.940 --> 01:16:27.940 and left the hospital. 01:16:27.940 --> 01:16:28.940 She felt so good. 01:16:28.940 --> 01:16:29.940 That is so fun. 01:16:29.940 --> 01:16:32.460 Isn't that hilarious? 01:16:32.460 --> 01:16:37.780 We've commonly come across the idea that moms don't give sugar before bedtime and the kids 01:16:37.780 --> 01:16:38.780 will get all... 01:16:38.780 --> 01:16:39.780 You know what I'm saying. 01:16:39.780 --> 01:16:40.780 You've heard that, right? 01:16:40.780 --> 01:16:41.780 Oh, no, don't do it. 01:16:41.780 --> 01:16:47.780 But I can eat one of these, like Natamu, this coconut and sugar in the middle of the night 01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:48.780 and go right back to sleep. 01:16:48.780 --> 01:16:52.420 I mean, it's like I ate nectar from the gods or something. 01:16:52.420 --> 01:16:57.100 Yeah, the blood sugar goes down at night, creating stress. 01:16:57.100 --> 01:17:01.980 All of the stress hormones rise during the night and you can minimize that with, for 01:17:01.980 --> 01:17:04.500 example, a glass of milk with honey. 01:17:04.500 --> 01:17:05.500 With sugar. 01:17:05.500 --> 01:17:06.500 With sugar, yeah. 01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:07.500 You told me that. 01:17:07.500 --> 01:17:08.500 You mentioned that before. 01:17:08.500 --> 01:17:10.500 That's what I do at night, is I put a little sugar in there. 01:17:10.500 --> 01:17:12.500 Wow, man, it's so great to have. 01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:16.700 Not it being the devil that we all thought it was. 01:17:16.700 --> 01:17:17.700 Question for Dr. Peat. 01:17:17.700 --> 01:17:26.260 According to longevity researcher Aubrey de Grey in his 2007 book, ending aging ketosis 01:17:26.260 --> 01:17:34.140 can be up to 40,000 times more chemically reactive on blood sugar than glucose due to 01:17:34.140 --> 01:17:35.140 methylglycol. 01:17:35.140 --> 01:17:36.140 Any comments? 01:17:36.140 --> 01:17:37.140 What's he saying here? 01:17:37.140 --> 01:17:38.140 Do you understand this? 01:17:38.140 --> 01:17:44.540 No, I don't know what he said about ketones. 01:17:44.540 --> 01:17:50.540 So enriching aging ketosis can be up to 40,000 times more chemically reactive on the blood 01:17:50.540 --> 01:17:52.540 sugar than glucose? 01:17:52.540 --> 01:17:56.900 Well, ketones can substitute for glucose. 01:17:56.900 --> 01:18:03.460 The brain can use them, but ketosis often refers to the condition that the body produces 01:18:03.460 --> 01:18:04.460 itself. 01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:11.420 If you find ketones in fruits and vegetables, they are very good for the brain and nerves. 01:18:11.420 --> 01:18:17.620 But if you produce the so-called ketosis, it includes some things that are not at all 01:18:17.620 --> 01:18:18.620 ketones. 01:18:18.620 --> 01:18:24.900 They're called ketone bodies, but one of them is a reactive alcohol rather than a ketone. 01:18:24.900 --> 01:18:28.780 And so the ketones you produce yourself have side effects. 01:18:28.780 --> 01:18:33.380 If you get your ketones in your diet from food, they're fine. 01:18:33.380 --> 01:18:34.660 Here's an email from Thomas. 01:18:34.660 --> 01:18:35.660 He's in Sweden. 01:18:35.660 --> 01:18:36.660 Good for Thomas. 01:18:36.660 --> 01:18:37.860 Hi, Patrick and Dr. Peat. 01:18:37.860 --> 01:18:44.060 I was wondering if Dr. Peat has any opinions about this product being sold called Carbon 01:18:44.060 --> 01:18:50.180 60 and its claim to be an antioxidant extraordinaire. 01:18:50.180 --> 01:18:52.660 They are tiny particles, buckyballs. 01:18:52.660 --> 01:18:55.980 Yeah, buckyballs, I think they are, yeah. 01:18:55.980 --> 01:19:06.180 And those are, I think, risky because the inflammatory triggers, a tiny particle in 01:19:06.180 --> 01:19:10.660 a certain range can activate the inflammatory process. 01:19:10.660 --> 01:19:17.740 So the research is extremely interesting, but I wouldn't touch the stuff myself. 01:19:17.740 --> 01:19:22.020 Oh, because they're nano, you mean they're made, they're nano particles? 01:19:22.020 --> 01:19:23.020 Yeah. 01:19:23.020 --> 01:19:24.900 Ah, it's the nano thing. 01:19:24.900 --> 01:19:25.900 Yeah. 01:19:25.900 --> 01:19:26.900 Yeah. 01:19:26.900 --> 01:19:27.900 Okay. 01:19:27.900 --> 01:19:28.900 Further, here's a second part. 01:19:28.900 --> 01:19:35.500 What does Dr. Peat think about the general theory about antioxidants being molecules 01:19:35.500 --> 01:19:42.340 that give an electron to a free radical without becoming destabilized themselves, thus preventing 01:19:42.340 --> 01:19:46.820 free radicals from taking electrons and causing damage? 01:19:46.820 --> 01:19:52.100 Do we need all these antioxidants to protect us against oxidative stress or are they a 01:19:52.100 --> 01:19:57.340 little overhyped in these antioxidant supplements? 01:19:57.340 --> 01:20:05.380 Yeah, anything that stresses us increases our antioxidant system. 01:20:05.380 --> 01:20:13.260 I think the worst damage to the body is an absence of oxidative processes or reductive 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:14.260 stress. 01:20:14.260 --> 01:20:18.580 For 50 years, they've been talking about oxidative stress. 01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:27.780 I think we have to avoid an excess of electrons and simply keep our oxidative system working 01:20:27.780 --> 01:20:34.760 to consume the electrons, not to try to block them with antioxidants because the antioxidants 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:39.420 in themselves can interfere with oxidative metabolism. 01:20:39.420 --> 01:20:46.420 Cancer cells are extremely well provided with antioxidant systems and that makes them dangerous 01:20:46.420 --> 01:20:48.060 and harmful. 01:20:48.060 --> 01:20:51.940 So don't go overboard on antioxidants. 01:20:51.940 --> 01:20:56.220 So that's why you've never been a proponent of taking vitamin C, right? 01:20:56.220 --> 01:21:06.300 No, partly because our diet provides 3,000 milligrams a day if you don't eat grains. 01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:13.580 Just vegetables, meat, milk, eggs will provide thousands of milligrams of vitamin C daily 01:21:13.580 --> 01:21:20.780 in the form of dehydroascorbate, much of it which is not in the reference books because 01:21:20.780 --> 01:21:22.060 they don't measure it. 01:21:22.060 --> 01:21:27.500 And if we do eat grains, what does that do to the dehydrate ascorbates? 01:21:27.500 --> 01:21:32.700 Grains are the only major food that don't contain vitamin C. 01:21:32.700 --> 01:21:33.700 Oh, I see. 01:21:33.700 --> 01:21:36.420 But it doesn't hurt the good stuff that we brought in. 01:21:36.420 --> 01:21:37.420 Okay. 01:21:37.420 --> 01:21:38.420 No. 01:21:38.420 --> 01:21:42.180 In regards to aspirin, here's an email for you. 01:21:42.180 --> 01:21:49.180 Dr. Peat had recommended it and I once heard him speak about the form he prefers. 01:21:49.180 --> 01:21:50.840 Is it crystals or powder? 01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:55.240 He said the type he gets can be stored for a long time in the freezer. 01:21:55.240 --> 01:21:58.100 Also can he share where he gets this from? 01:21:58.100 --> 01:22:01.980 How much would he recommend on a daily basis for an adult? 01:22:01.980 --> 01:22:02.980 Which vitamin? 01:22:02.980 --> 01:22:03.980 Aspirin. 01:22:03.980 --> 01:22:04.980 Oh, aspirin. 01:22:04.980 --> 01:22:08.100 What form do you like? 01:22:08.100 --> 01:22:17.500 I use just USP aspirin, but salicylic acid is all right if you mix it with baking soda. 01:22:17.500 --> 01:22:26.320 But any aspirin that is in a form that doesn't choke you, it shouldn't be in a fine powder. 01:22:26.320 --> 01:22:32.900 But I use crystalline aspirin USP and I try to average about 300 milligrams a day. 01:22:32.900 --> 01:22:35.340 And why do you take that? 01:22:35.340 --> 01:22:43.340 Just because it protects against anything inflammatory pretty much. 01:22:43.340 --> 01:22:47.580 Crystalline USP aspirin, 300 milligrams a day. 01:22:47.580 --> 01:22:53.060 So the aspirin that the docs are giving the guys for the heart and the blood thing, the 01:22:53.060 --> 01:22:56.980 baby aspirin, is there anything to that? 01:22:56.980 --> 01:23:01.020 I think the amount is too small for most people. 01:23:01.020 --> 01:23:07.420 And if you take vitamin K, you don't have to worry about the bleeding thing from chronic 01:23:07.420 --> 01:23:08.980 aspirin use. 01:23:08.980 --> 01:23:12.060 And vitamin K is in cheese, some cheeses? 01:23:12.060 --> 01:23:14.700 Yeah, aged cheese is a good source. 01:23:14.700 --> 01:23:15.700 Aged cheese, yeah. 01:23:15.700 --> 01:23:16.700 Especially the blue stuff. 01:23:16.700 --> 01:23:18.700 Doesn't that have vitamin K, the blue stuff? 01:23:18.700 --> 01:23:19.700 Yeah. 01:23:19.700 --> 01:23:20.700 Yeah. 01:23:20.700 --> 01:23:23.060 The blue stinky stuff, right? 01:23:23.060 --> 01:23:29.460 Can Dr. Peat explain why the veins in the back of the hands are an indication of estrogen 01:23:29.460 --> 01:23:30.460 status? 01:23:30.460 --> 01:23:41.180 Well, stress where you, for example, might have low blood sugar, anything that weakens 01:23:41.180 --> 01:23:43.540 smooth muscle contraction can do it. 01:23:43.540 --> 01:23:51.660 But estrogen is a very common cause of that weakening of the smooth muscles. 01:23:51.660 --> 01:23:58.660 Varicose veins are an extreme example where chronic estrogen weakens the muscle. 01:23:58.660 --> 01:24:03.820 Absence of progesterone will let the veins bulge. 01:24:03.820 --> 01:24:05.140 Absence of... 01:24:05.140 --> 01:24:06.420 So the cure... 01:24:06.420 --> 01:24:11.100 So if the veins are bulging in the back of the hands, you would want to take... 01:24:11.100 --> 01:24:14.300 How would you balance that estrogen out? 01:24:14.300 --> 01:24:20.060 Sometimes just a glass of milk or orange juice or some soup or something to get your salt 01:24:20.060 --> 01:24:21.740 and sugar up. 01:24:21.740 --> 01:24:23.660 That's often enough to do it. 01:24:23.660 --> 01:24:30.860 But if it's chronic, then correcting your whole diet and making sure your thyroid function 01:24:30.860 --> 01:24:31.860 is good. 01:24:31.860 --> 01:24:32.860 The old thyroid again. 01:24:32.860 --> 01:24:33.860 There you go. 01:24:33.860 --> 01:24:39.420 Lipomas, what are Dr. Peat's thoughts on the cause and function? 01:24:39.420 --> 01:24:44.660 I have one I would like to remove it, but I would first like to know why my body made 01:24:44.660 --> 01:24:49.500 it, and will it just make another if I remove the one I have? 01:24:49.500 --> 01:24:52.660 There's also many dogs get these little lipomas. 01:24:52.660 --> 01:24:55.220 The vets say they just don't worry about them. 01:24:55.220 --> 01:24:56.220 They're just little... 01:24:56.220 --> 01:24:57.220 Well, what are your thoughts? 01:24:57.220 --> 01:24:59.820 Do you think they're the same for dogs too? 01:24:59.820 --> 01:25:05.380 Yeah, I don't really know. 01:25:05.380 --> 01:25:12.580 Hypothyroid people sometimes, if they have very high fats in their blood, that supposedly 01:25:12.580 --> 01:25:16.620 increases the risk of forming them. 01:25:16.620 --> 01:25:20.500 But I don't think there's any harm in removing them. 01:25:20.500 --> 01:25:21.500 You don't think so? 01:25:21.500 --> 01:25:22.500 Yeah. 01:25:22.500 --> 01:25:23.500 I have a question for you. 01:25:23.500 --> 01:25:30.100 I have been in extreme estrogen dominance all my life, had many surgeries for stage 01:25:30.100 --> 01:25:31.100 4 endometriosis. 01:25:31.100 --> 01:25:38.740 I've had a complete hysterectomy five years ago and been taking two grams of transgenital 01:25:38.740 --> 01:25:43.940 estradiol daily since the surgery, as well as vaginal estradiol. 01:25:43.940 --> 01:25:45.460 I stopped these. 01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:50.260 Let's see, what's the question here? 01:25:50.260 --> 01:25:58.460 All of the women I've known who had endometriosis over the last 50 years have stopped having 01:25:58.460 --> 01:26:02.340 all of their symptoms when they corrected their thyroid problem. 01:26:02.340 --> 01:26:03.340 Thyroid, yeah. 01:26:03.340 --> 01:26:08.100 They go on to talk about the progesterone, "Do I need higher doses to combat the high 01:26:08.100 --> 01:26:09.620 estrogen?" 01:26:09.620 --> 01:26:12.140 So they're wondering about how much progesterone. 01:26:12.140 --> 01:26:17.540 But you're saying you would just definitely go right to the thyroid and look at that. 01:26:17.540 --> 01:26:18.540 Yeah. 01:26:18.540 --> 01:26:24.380 If you want to check your estrogen levels, the thyroid should bring the estrogen down 01:26:24.380 --> 01:26:26.780 under control. 01:26:26.780 --> 01:26:35.980 Could Dr. Peat explain how someone could detox DDT or other pesticides out of the body? 01:26:35.980 --> 01:26:43.020 Keeping your liver function good is the basic detox method. 01:26:43.020 --> 01:26:47.580 Eating a balanced diet, keeping your thyroid function up will make your liver handle things 01:26:47.580 --> 01:26:48.580 optimally. 01:26:48.580 --> 01:26:56.500 Dr. Peat's explanation of how concentric exercise helps build muscle and produce testosterone, 01:26:56.500 --> 01:27:02.540 but using the muscle in the downward lengthening stroke produces cortisol and damages mitochondria 01:27:02.540 --> 01:27:07.820 is interesting and suggests careful attention to our workout routine is important. 01:27:07.820 --> 01:27:12.980 He said one way you could biohack your chin-ups would be to simply do them while standing 01:27:12.980 --> 01:27:17.540 on your rebounder and avoid the chin downs by just dropping onto the rebounder. 01:27:17.540 --> 01:27:21.380 So, he's already thinking, "Hmm, it's interesting." 01:27:21.380 --> 01:27:22.380 Biohack it. 01:27:22.380 --> 01:27:23.380 You just biohack it, right? 01:27:23.380 --> 01:27:25.860 Well, Dr. Peat, what's on your schedule today? 01:27:25.860 --> 01:27:27.980 Anything really fun and interesting? 01:27:27.980 --> 01:27:31.620 No, I haven't thought about what I would be doing. 01:27:31.620 --> 01:27:32.820 Yeah, me neither. 01:27:32.820 --> 01:27:35.420 We'll figure it out when the time comes. 01:27:35.420 --> 01:27:39.260 Well, thanks again for being here on the third Tuesday. 01:27:39.260 --> 01:27:45.820 So tell folks on your website, you have a "It's Every Other Month" newsletter, right? 01:27:45.820 --> 01:27:49.500 We always put the link there and folks can get that if they want, right? 01:27:49.500 --> 01:27:50.500 Yes. 01:27:50.500 --> 01:27:51.500 raypeat.com. 01:27:51.500 --> 01:27:54.060 Drink your orange juice, drink your milk, have some fun. 01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:55.060 Thanks Dr. Peat. 01:27:55.060 --> 01:27:56.060 We'll see you next month. 01:27:56.060 --> 01:27:57.060 Take care of yourself. 01:27:57.060 --> 01:27:58.060 Okay, thanks. 01:27:58.060 --> 01:27:59.060 It's been an honor. 01:27:59.060 --> 01:28:00.060 Thank you, sir. 01:28:00.060 --> 01:28:01.060 Thanks for being here. 01:28:01.060 --> 01:28:02.060 Dr. Ray Peat. 01:28:02.060 --> 01:28:05.940 See, orange juice and sugar and milk, who'd have thought it, right? 01:28:05.940 --> 01:28:07.220 All the fun stuff in life. 01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:08.780 I just love the whole sugar thing. 01:28:08.780 --> 01:28:10.340 I just think it's great. 01:28:10.340 --> 01:28:11.340 Oh, man. 01:28:11.340 --> 01:28:18.300 I remember there was a book that Gloria Swanson wrote about sugar. 01:28:18.300 --> 01:28:21.740 I read that and boy, I've been a sugar monster ever since. 01:28:21.740 --> 01:28:23.500 What was the name of that book? 01:28:23.500 --> 01:28:25.580 Well, I never should have read it, I guess. 01:28:25.580 --> 01:28:26.580 Oh, well. 01:28:26.580 --> 01:28:27.580 Live and learn. 01:28:27.580 --> 01:28:29.900 Hope you enjoyed the show as much as we did presenting it. 01:28:29.900 --> 01:28:30.900 We will see you tomorrow. 01:28:30.900 --> 01:28:31.900 We're going to have a good show. 01:28:31.900 --> 01:28:37.460 We're going to dig into more of my research on "It Takes a Long Time to Get Young," the 01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:39.460 name of my book. 01:28:39.460 --> 01:28:44.940 And then the second hour, we're going to talk to Richard Mayberry. 01:28:44.940 --> 01:28:48.380 Richard Mayberry is a very interesting man. 01:28:48.380 --> 01:28:52.660 He's the one that coined the phrase, "The Two Laws." 01:28:52.660 --> 01:28:58.300 And I challenge you to come up with something, maybe you can between now and tomorrow, of 01:28:58.300 --> 01:29:06.500 what a potential illegal action would be that wouldn't be covered by these two laws. 01:29:06.500 --> 01:29:12.380 And they are, carefully chosen words, "Do all you have agreed to do and do not encroach 01:29:12.380 --> 01:29:14.880 on other persons or their property." 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:20.300 Richard Mayberry suggests if you follow these two laws, "Do all you have agreed to do and 01:29:20.300 --> 01:29:26.080 do not encroach on other persons or their property," that would cover everything and 01:29:26.080 --> 01:29:27.080 you're good to go. 01:29:27.080 --> 01:29:28.260 What do you think about that? 01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:32.860 Can you think of something that would end up in the courts where those two laws wouldn't 01:29:32.860 --> 01:29:33.860 cover? 01:29:33.860 --> 01:29:36.020 Email tomorrow and we'll talk about it. 01:29:36.020 --> 01:29:37.140 But we're going to talk about a lot of things. 01:29:37.140 --> 01:29:42.540 He's into investing, geopolitics, gold, silver, central banking. 01:29:42.540 --> 01:29:44.020 He's a cool guy. 01:29:44.020 --> 01:29:50.500 The early warning report he's written for years, it is Richard Mayberry, author of many 01:29:50.500 --> 01:29:53.060 books for Blue Stocking Press. 01:29:53.060 --> 01:30:00.460 He's a big fan with the homeschooling people that they do Blue Stocking Press. 01:30:00.460 --> 01:30:05.620 He wrote "Whatever Happened to Justice," "World War II," the rest of the story, "World War 01:30:05.620 --> 01:30:10.860 I," the rest of the story, some great books for kids, "Whatever Happened to Penny Candy" 01:30:10.860 --> 01:30:15.060 about inflation, Blue Stocking Press, some great books for kids. 01:30:15.060 --> 01:30:19.780 If you want to give your kids some really cool things to read, check out Blue Stocking 01:30:19.780 --> 01:30:22.660 Press and Richard Mayberry's books. 01:30:22.660 --> 01:30:23.660 So he's going to be here tomorrow. 01:30:23.660 --> 01:30:24.660 So we have a fun day. 01:30:24.660 --> 01:30:25.660 I love you all very much. 01:30:25.660 --> 01:30:27.620 Thanks for your ongoing support. 01:30:27.620 --> 01:30:31.340 If there's anything at all that I can do to help support you to reach your goals, I'm 01:30:31.340 --> 01:30:33.260 just an email away. 01:30:33.260 --> 01:30:35.580 Patrick@oneradionetwork.com. 01:30:35.580 --> 01:30:36.580 Patrick@oneradionetwork.com. 01:30:36.580 --> 01:30:40.300 I love you all. 01:30:40.300 --> 01:30:41.300 Thank you. 01:30:41.300 --> 01:30:42.300 Doodle says bye. 01:30:42.300 --> 01:30:43.300 May the blessings be. 01:30:43.300 --> 01:30:45.660 We are listener supported. 01:30:45.660 --> 01:30:46.860 One Radio Network.