WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000 Hi, Ray, how are you doing? 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:05.000 Hi, very good. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:06.000 Great. 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:09.000 What have you been up to lately? 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:16.000 Right now I'm writing my July newsletter on education. 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:19.000 It'll be ready in a couple of days. 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:20.000 Oh, fantastic. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:27.000 And now just for listeners, because I know we're going to have a lot of listeners, if they aren't already subscribed to your newsletter, 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:34.000 how can they pay for that and become a part of your newsletters? 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:45.000 I'm emailing raypeatsnewsletter with an S, raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:57.000 You can get information by email subscription for 12 issues as $28 over two years every other month. 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:58.000 Okay, wonderful. 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.000 That sounds like an incredible deal. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:08.000 So, Ray, I'm looking forward to that coming out, especially because some of our recent conversations, 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:18.000 either through email or our last recorded conversation, dealt so focused in such a focused way with learning and education. 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.000 And so I'm really looking forward to that. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:28.000 Before we get going with the proposed topic of today's conversation, which is serotonin and serotonin issues, 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.000 I'm actually just super curious, Ray, and I've been meaning to ask you this. 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.000 It's kind of a lighter question. 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.000 But do you ever listen to music? 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.000 Oh, yeah. 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:50.000 I actually like live music, preferably solos, but I don't often get the chance to listen to it. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:02:08.000 But since the Internet and digital music, I don't listen to it so much because computers, for example, generally have such horrible audio systems. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:34.000 And occasionally we listen to an old CD, but I don't think the general public recognizes the amount of degradation that has happened in the sound world. 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:53.000 Music as the popular music has really conformed to the loss of fidelity in the sound amplifying systems. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:03:10.000 So when you listen to classical older music and expect to hear the tone quality as an important part of it, 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:20.000 the current apparatuses generally don't catch the essential quality. 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:24.000 I actually would totally agree, and you found a little bit like my wife. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:31.000 If she's given the choice between staying at home or going out to some venue to try to catch live music, 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:37.000 it's always we have to leave the house and we have to go find live music. 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:43.000 Do you have a particular genre when you're able to catch live music that you favor over others? 00:03:43.000 --> 00:04:03.000 No. Everything from old classics through Dixieland, Mariachi's. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:15.000 One of my favorites used to be the plugs of funny music I think is important. 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.000 I think you might be right. 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.000 Ray, do you dance much anymore or do you have much dancing in your experience? 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 Nope, never did. 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:29.000 Just enjoy listening to the music and participating in that experience. 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.000 Yeah. 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:32.000 Awesome. 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:33.000 Ray, thanks for that. 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.000 I thought that was fun. 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:44.000 I remember a comment from an earlier interview that you did with someone else where someone mentioned they'd love to hear about what kind of music you like. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.000 So that was on my brain and I meant to ask you, so I'm glad I did. 00:04:49.000 --> 00:05:10.000 Yeah, for many years with the alternates between playing different instruments, about 15 years ago I bought a cello in Mexico because I had always wanted to play one but they were too expensive. 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:29.000 So I found a really great cello for $300 at intervals and tried playing that just because the sound quality up close to a cello is like nothing else. 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:34.000 French horn is another thing that I've played quite a bit. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.000 Okay, French horn you said, right? 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:44.000 Yeah, just because of the sound quality, I've always liked that. 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:45.000 That's really cool. 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.000 I have some experience playing the piano. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:52.000 Have you ever played around with the piano? 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:56.000 No, I don't like the sound of a piano very much. 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.000 Interesting. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:01.000 They always sound kind of out of tune to me. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:10.000 I've heard that, but it's actually even really remarkable when someone has tuned a piano the way it's meant to be tuned. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.000 I imagine that's a challenging thing to do. 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:24.000 Ray, would you put music in a similar category as far as an art, like painting and such? 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:46.000 Yeah, I think it has to have a lot of personality and the performer is really what makes it interesting. 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.000 Ray, that's wonderful. 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.000 Thanks. 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:49.000 Yeah, and I agree with you. 00:06:49.000 --> 00:07:02.000 I think, right, the person playing the music is just as much a part of it as in the flavor and the tone that they and the kind of the energy they put to it is just as much a part of the music as anything else. 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:03.000 Yeah. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:10.000 All right, Ray, to serotonin, because it just seems like we have a wide-scale serotonin problem. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.000 I guess this is as relevant as ever. 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:25.000 I don't think this has maybe never not been the case, but it seems that serotonin is implicated in so many facets of a degraded life. 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:35.000 For example, high serotonin during pregnancy and neonatal development seems like a terrible recipe for autism and stress-related diseases later in life. 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:41.000 It seems like a recipe for aggressive or psychopathic tendencies, just on and on. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:50.000 I know you've written a lot about serotonin, and I'll definitely reference below this talk on YouTube the articles that you've written on serotonin. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:08:01.000 But for listeners who might be new to you, Ray, can you speak freshly and deeply on how serotonin is not exactly the happy former? 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:26.000 Yeah, that's one of the most destructive myths of our society, strictly created as a marketing ploy by the pharmaceutical industry about 60 years ago to 50 or 60. 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:55.000 Around the early 1960s, serotonin was being studied and identified very clearly as a cause of constricting smooth muscles, blood vessels, uterine contractions, intestinal contractions, and inflammation. 00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:18.000 And LSD was found to counteract those things very clearly, a blocker of serotonin's pro-inflammatory constricting effect. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:33.000 It turns out that it's not just physical contraction of muscles, but a general constriction of consciousness, too. 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:57.000 And if you block the serotonin effect that contracts muscles, for example, causing miscarriages in pregnancy or premature delivery, if there's too much serotonin, as well as hypertension of pregnancy and so on, 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:06.000 the anti-serotonin agencies are protected on the level of consciousness, too. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:23.000 Serotonin constricts limits perspectives, and LSD, by blocking that, tends to restore perspectives. 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:41.000 In excess, LSD creates too many imaginary perspectives, but it illustrates the negative effect on consciousness of too much serotonin. 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:58.000 Calcification goes with contraction and micro-blood vessel damage in aging and stress is one of the things too much serotonin does. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:08.000 Calcification of all of the soft tissues, meanwhile, decalcifying the bones. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:26.000 During pregnancy, the developing breast tissue starts secreting serotonin for the purpose of activating parathyroid hormones so that there will be calcium in the blood 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:34.000 to make the milk with high calcium content for the baby coming out of the bones. 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:55.000 But if you have chronically high serotonin produced from the intestine, for example, by irritating foods all the way up to irritable bowel syndrome, but anything that irritates the bowel increases serotonin production systemically, 00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:02.000 that will activate the osteoclasts and break down bones. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:11.000 So it's a major factor in essentially all of the aspects of physical degeneration. 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.000 Got it. 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:19.000 And you mentioned some of the things that we might be able to do to oppose or antagonize serotonin. 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.000 I want to get to that later. 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:30.000 I also kind of, in a little bit, I do have it in my brain to get to the whole idea that serotonin acts as a kind of filter on our perception. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.000 You kind of mentioned that. 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.000 And I think that's important to consider. 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.000 I'm going to ask you more about that. 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.000 But with the LSD, I wanted to touch on this first. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.000 You mentioned too much LSD. 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:50.000 You get into some of the hallucinogenic and some of the imaginary stuff that is maybe going too far with it. 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:53.000 I think microdosing, I guess, is the term nowadays. 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:57.000 Microdosing LSD would be an effective strategy sometimes in controlling. 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:03.000 I think it is on the level of 10 micrograms. 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.000 Okay. 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:12.000 And that would be a nice small dose associated with controlling some of the serotonin excess problems? 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:36.000 Yeah, but there are other more accessible ways to do the same thing holding down uncontrolled production of serotonin, increasing its breakdown and preventing out of order production of serotonin. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Okay, great. 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:48.000 And I want to get to some of those things, but before we do that, I want to touch specifically because it's obviously such a big issue currently. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.000 We have this corona stuff going on. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:56.000 How do you see COVID-19 in reference to serotonin? 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:12.000 Oh, it activates the angiotensin system by blocking the enzyme that degrades angiotensin. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:28.000 So the action of the COVID virus is to turn on our basic inflammatory system, and serotonin is activated by that. 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:54.000 It interacts very closely with angiotensin. The vasoconstricting effect of angiotensin, which it's named for, involves serotonin, which -- that's why serotonin got its name for increasing the tone of blood vessels. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:06.000 So angiotensin and serotonin are historically and culturally interrelated. 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:26.000 And the things that -- one of the early discoveries of the Chinese in treating the COVID infection included cinansurin, which is a well-established anti-serotonin agent. 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:46.000 But azithromycin was the other main anti-COVID agent, and that was poo-pooed by American doctors because they say azithromycin is just a bacterial antibiotic. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:16:01.000 It's actually an anti-viral, anti-inflammatory, anti-spasmodic, a very broad-spectrum anti-inflammatory substance. 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:21.000 So when you combine a specific anti-serotonin agent and azithromycin, those were two of the big Chinese discoveries seven months ago. 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:39.000 I think it should be taken as sort of a model for further development to concentrate on reducing inflammation with special reference to angiotensin and serotonin. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:55.000 Okay, yeah, it sounds like it. So really, I mean, someone who is focusing on keeping their immune system strong and also doing things that keep serotonin issues at bay is really not going to have to worry about this corona stuff, right? 00:16:55.000 --> 00:17:21.000 Women, for example, healthy women who aren't taking estrogen birth control pills or SSRI activators of serotonin, healthy women without drugs who are menstruating regularly are immune, almost absolutely immune to the virus. 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:31.000 And when they stop menstruating, the first thing to fall is progesterone. 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:59.000 And men never have a great monthly dose of progesterone, and so even younger men are much more susceptible to the COVID virus, but aging in both sexes decreases the progesterone and related testosterone even as anti-inflammatory if it doesn't turn to estrogen. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:21.000 But the androgens in both sexes increasingly turn to estrogen with aging, and old men, because of their testosterone precursor, very often have a lot higher estrogen than old women. 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:39.000 And so the virus defenses the anti-inflammatory progesterone are lost with aging, and so that's why the virus is more harmful in old age. 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:47.000 Aspirin and progesterone are among the protective anti-inflammatory things. 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:56.000 That's great. Yeah, I was just actually going to ask if aspirin could be thought of in the same terms as natural progesterone in a sense. 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:07.000 Yeah, aspirin has many anti-inflammatory effects, not just the anti-presticlandin effect, but that's a big part of it. 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:12.000 What about even something as pro-metabolic as like coffee? 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:13.000 As what? 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:14.000 Coffee? 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:19.000 Oh, yeah, coffee protects against several. 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:35.000 It works with aspirin, helps to hold down nitric oxide, tends to increase the ratio between the androgens and estrogen. 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:58.000 That's one of the effects of anthropotensin turned on by the COVID virus, is it's an activator of aromatase, directly increasing estrogen, and also an activator of carbonic anhydrase. 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:13.000 Serotonin is too, and carbonic anhydrase is increased in everything that causes muscle contraction and tissue calcification. 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:29.000 And so once you start down that path, it becomes just a jungle of these interacting inflammation-promoting factors. 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:40.000 And a young person has all kinds of anti-inflammatory defenses to turn them off at an early stage. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:51.000 The high production of carbon dioxide is probably our basic youth-associated anti-inflammatory agent. 00:20:51.000 --> 00:21:12.000 Lactic acid represents our most primitive inflammation-promoting factor, and it increases the pH and the reductive atmosphere of the body. 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:26.000 And that reductive tendency goes with all kinds of degenerative inflammatory things, calcification and so on. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:36.000 But even the assembly of a virus is dependent on how reducing the cell environment is. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:49.000 And when you keep the cell internally in an oxidized active metabolizing using oxygen and suppressing lactic acid, 00:21:49.000 --> 00:22:01.000 the assembly of viruses and of the exosomes, which are repair particles emitted by cells under stress, 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:08.000 we turn off those stress-related particle emissions. 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:24.000 So even if the cell is infected, if it has adequate carbon dioxide and glucose to keep oxidizing, then the virus isn't able to spread. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:32.000 Is this why someone who's on a low-carb diet, not giving their body glucose, 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:39.000 and also maybe doing excessive exercise or overly high-output endurance-based exercise, 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:46.000 is this why someone like that could be putting themselves in a real dangerous situation as far as susceptibility? 00:22:46.000 --> 00:23:09.000 When you're fasting or under stress or too much exercise without enough sugar, free fatty acids cause that same reducing condition of cells that activates all of the degenerative stress things, including lactic acid production. 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:29.000 A fairly recent publication on the effect of serotonin on the brain showed that it increases the level of lactic acid in the brain and lowers the ATP content. 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:44.000 The very basic energy production and stabilizing factor is lowered while the destabilizing, reducing lactic acid is increased. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:24:01.000 And that suggests how important adequate carbon dioxide is to maintain the brain as well as the blood vessels and muscles and heart and so on. 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:12.000 Interesting. Does this put fitness in the same realm as science and medicine and education in terms of it's kind of been bastardized and made literally a business, 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:23.000 and there's forms of exercise that are propagated that are clearly not healthy, but it just kind of puts fitness in the same category as medicine? 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.000 Yeah, the endorphins got included into that mythology. 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.000 Lactate increases the endorphins. 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:48.000 The endorphins go with all kinds of suffering and stress, and a true happiness hormone would turn off endorphin along with serotonin. 00:24:48.000 --> 00:25:08.000 Okay, so would good forms of exercise or fitness be like high intensity, short bursts of action possibly with lots of rest and obviously with good nutrition surrounding the event and walking and things like this? 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:35.000 Yeah, you want your breath to come back almost instantly when you stop the action. You don't want any prolonged, increased breathing volume indicating that you've got an oxygen debt indicating high lactate circulating. 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:52.000 Lots of supposedly well conditioned athletes go around with increased lactic acid persisting in their blood even 24 hours after their last activity. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:26:08.000 And that increase of lactate in the blood, the reducing condition, affects the oxygen diffusing ability of the lung alveolar chambers. 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:22.000 The distance between the air pocket and the capillaries is thickened almost instantly when the lactate is increased. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:45.000 The reducing effect of the lactate causes the cells to take up water, increasing the thickness and decreasing the ability of oxygen to diffuse in while carbon dioxide being many times more soluble in water. 00:26:45.000 --> 00:27:05.000 The carbon dioxide can still get out through the inflamed lungs, so you become lower in carbon dioxide while more deficient in oxygen when your lactate is higher. 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:24.000 The normal blood test that doctors consider a normal range, the numbers are something like one to four, and they don't consider it a problem until it gets up to 15 or 20 on the lactate scale. 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:42.000 But I think the actual healthy young person with all of the anti-inflammatory things working ought to be at the very low end of the lactate scale, even subnormal if possible. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:28:01.000 Got it. And because as we age, because we want to keep lactate, not as much of a widespread physiological issue, like would something like B1 or thiamin be a good supplement to take around bouts of exercise? 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:28.000 Maybe good foods will usually supply enough of those. One of the natural conditions that leads to retention of carbon dioxide and suppression of lactate is higher altitude where you live because the oxygen pressure decreases. 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:47.000 And as you adapt to that, you maintain a good diffusion in your lungs, but your platelets hang on to serotonin more strongly in the presence of carbon dioxide. 00:28:47.000 --> 00:29:03.000 And as you go up in altitude, you can breathe faster to get your oxygen, but you don't blow out carbon dioxide, so the inflammatory things aren't activated. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:13.000 Your serotonin and lactate tend to decrease as oxygen becomes thinner at higher altitude. 00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:33.000 And in the Andes, they have noticed that the people living way up at 12,000 to 14,000 feet have very strong bones and teeth, even in the old age. 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:41.000 And I think that's the effect of high carbon dioxide, low lactate, low serotonin, and so on. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:55.000 So even though the COVID death rate seems like laughably low, is this why I've seen reports of people living like 8,000 feet or above where the incidence of death from COVID is almost zero? 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.000 I mean, like -- 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:05.000 Right. Exactly. It's the anti-inflammatory effect of carbon dioxide. 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:14.000 Side note on coffee real quick. What would you say, Ray, to someone who says they can't drink coffee because it makes them feel jittery? Just curious. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:20.000 Oh, I've heard that a thousand -- thousands of times in the last few years. 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.000 Yeah. 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:32.000 And people who were willing to experiment, they had said that even an ounce of coffee would make them jittery. 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:46.000 I described taking coffee with heavy, good-tasting cream with food, and to start with a small amount with food. 00:30:46.000 --> 00:31:14.000 And these people found that it increased their ability to go longer without eating, without experiencing hypoglycemia symptoms, and it eliminated their dependency on eating frequently while avoiding those jittery hypoglycemic symptoms. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:23.000 Okay, cool. So for people who want to ease their way back into it, that sounds like an appropriate experimental route to drinking more coffee. 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.000 Yeah, small amounts with food and cream. 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:35.000 To bring it back, Ray, into this serotonin as a kind of filter on perception, I'm really curious about this. 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:46.000 What kind of an impact do you think high levels of serotonin are having on the media's coverage of COVID-19 and also on people's response to that? 00:31:46.000 --> 00:32:05.000 If you look at research like C.R. Kloninger was a pioneer, but he's been verified repeatedly despite the propaganda research from the industry. 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:22.000 He showed that harm avoidance is the typical personality developing under the influence of high serotonin autism. 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:37.000 If you think of extreme harm avoidance, that would fit with the autistic personality, closing in, not noticing other people. 00:32:37.000 --> 00:33:05.000 But the idea of fearing harm, wanting things excessively defined, hating open ends, refusing to play or to be exploratory, all of that, the authoritarian personality is in operation throughout the culture. 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:17.000 The media are the perfect example of the obedient authoritarian personality filtering everything in the news. 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.000 And it makes it almost impossible for a person who's trying to craft their way through this. 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:28.000 I mean, it really presents a good challenge, don't you think, to sift through all of that? 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:45.000 Yeah, you have to persist in looking at keeping open perspectives and questioning everything, all of the assumptions behind beliefs. 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:58.000 Everything is open to question, and the media and people like Fauci are disturbed and want to outlaw. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:17.000 They're talking about making it a crime to post on Facebook, for example, information showing that vaccinations can be very harmful. 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:25.000 They don't want their assumptions questioned to the point of trying to outlaw them. 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:37.000 Speaking on that note, Ray, I recently heard, and I don't know if this is confirmable, I think it might be, but I think it was Gates and working with Yale University. 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:46.000 And there's a research going on right now in terms of how they can be -- it's like manipulation strategies. 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:58.000 And it's a study that they're trying to figure out how they can manipulate people or persuade people with the ongoing or with the upcoming, like, vaccine push and such. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:12.000 Yeah, they've been industrializing manipulation research and technology for 75 years at least. 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:17.000 So any time we go outside and we see a billboard, although I don't know how much we see those anymore, 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:25.000 or we turn on our computer and we open up the web browser or we grab a newspaper -- not that many people read newspapers anymore. 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:30.000 But any time we're seeing anything, we have to take it with all this in mind, right? 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.000 That there's a lot of money that's being put into the messages that are being conveyed to people. Is that true? 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:46.000 And manipulating Google is just profoundly influential. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:36:02.000 People of political science researchers and sociologists have done experiments where they changed the algorithm slightly in a search engine, 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:15.000 and they have found that they could absolutely control the vote just by very slight changes in the frequency with which information comes up. 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:24.000 And if it gets pushed off to the second page, you can assure that the candidate will lose. 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:42.000 To the extent that the population relies politically on Google for their fact-checking, you can be sure that it's absolutely predetermined from above. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:50.000 The media people are identical with the Google people in what they want. 00:36:50.000 --> 00:37:01.000 That makes sense, and actually, my wife shared something with me earlier where it was statistics on the world's computer usage or internet usage. 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:10.000 And I guess Google was at 97% of all search inquiries or queries in the world. 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.000 And I think being by Microsoft was held 3%. 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:21.000 And then all these others, like lesser known, but literally 97% of every search that's going on in the world, I guess, is Google. 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:28.000 Now, my wife, she mentioned Mojique.com, M-O-J-E-E-K.com. 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:37.000 And I'm just saying this for listeners or for people who are interested in trying to get something that's not so controlled. 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:47.000 But I don't know. It sounds like we need to get away from using Google as a search engine. 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:55.000 Yeah. If you want to question assumptions, that isn't very helpful. 00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:04.000 With Facebook maybe coming out with some of the -- I mean, they're already censoring like crazy, as it seems like all the social media platforms. 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:14.000 Do you think we should -- if we recognize that things are being censored or that there might be a penalty coming up for even writing or posting something, 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:22.000 do you think we should just -- if that is unsettling to us, do you think we should just quit our Facebook account and leave it or -- 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.000 Absolutely. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.000 Yeah. Yeah. 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:32.000 And you think that's the best plan of attack, that if enough people are -- have enough distaste with that, that they drop it. 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.000 That's probably a good idea. 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:43.000 Yes. So far, email and U.S. Postal Service haven't been too tampered with. 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:48.000 Do you think if we use Gmail, though, because that's a Google-sponsored -- 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:54.000 Yeah. That will undoubtedly -- if people start using it, it will be censored. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.000 Got it. Yeah. 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:02.000 So really, the best thing we can do is invite our friends out for a walk, right, and have a perfect conversation? 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.000 Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:11.000 The way intelligence operatives have known they had to work. 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:19.000 But politicians talk about serious things only while walking in private. 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:28.000 Ray, you talked earlier, and I thought this was a great intro to the topic of pregnancy and, like, prenatal and neonatal, 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:34.000 and the implications of excessive serotonin during those times. 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:42.000 Can you dive into that a little bit more and talk about, really, what some of those kind of nasty implications might be of excessive serotonin during pregnancy? 00:39:42.000 --> 00:40:03.000 Yeah. It's clearly established that autism is produced by prenatal inflammation as almost the only clearly established cause is inflammation during the development of the brain. 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:25.000 And postnatal problems probably have an influence, but any inflammation during pregnancy increases the delivery of serotonin by the placenta into the fetus. 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:32.000 And vasoconstriction is something you don't want in the developing fetus. 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:43.000 And that excess, the way it decreases ATP in the brain specifically while increasing lactate, 00:40:43.000 --> 00:41:12.000 those slow total development of the brain reduce the brain volume or disturbance growth pattern, at least, the inflammation caused by endotoxin from maternal intestinal irritation or inflammation. 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:27.000 But viral or bacterial infection of the mother during pregnancy, those are all known to increase the placenta's delivery of serotonin to the fetus. 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:39.000 But vaccination is deliberately intended with the addition of an adjuvant such as aluminum hydroxide. 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:58.000 It's designed to increase the inflammatory reactions, and they're actually recommending giving vaccines such as influenza vaccine containing aluminum adjuvant to pregnant women. 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:08.000 All of the steps are known to cause brain damage to the fetus with lifelong effects. 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:14.000 And even if it doesn't contain aluminum, there are vaccines that contain other adjuvants, right? 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:28.000 Anything that is an adjuvant is there to increase inflammation, and inflammation is exactly the worst thing for pregnancy as well as for life in general and aging. 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:41.000 And so even if it were possible to create a vaccine that was free of adjuvant, that was very natural, just certain elements, even if that could be done, it's certainly not being done, right? 00:42:41.000 --> 00:43:01.000 And the natural way of interacting with pathogens is to eat them or inhale them or even get them on the skin. 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:24.000 And our skin, our lungs, and our intestine have systems for instructing the immune system with a minimum of damage in an organized way to develop a specific immunity. 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:51.000 But even natural pathogen exposure, during the AIDS controversies, people were talking about the immune burden in Africa, for example, the total exposure to bacteria, viruses, and parasites. 00:43:51.000 --> 00:44:11.000 They sought creating AIDS, immunodeficiency syndrome, without any HIV virus involved, or the HIV virus was simply there as one more of the irritants. 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:22.000 And because of the immune burden being associated with that descending view of what causes AIDS, that got out of use. 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:36.000 And we certainly talk about immune activation, but if you look up the research using the term immune activation, you'll find the same thing. 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:50.000 Degenerative processes increase, cognition decreases in proportion to immune activation from exposure, even to natural pathogens. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:45:10.000 But it applies -- the purpose of a vaccine is to activate your immune system, and that's exactly the process that promotes aging and degeneration and serotonin and endotensin, et cetera. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:23.000 So really, physiologically speaking, it just really sounds backwards that we're being taught to believe that vaccines are so valuable. 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:29.000 Obviously, it makes someone a lot of money, right, but it just seems so backwards, physiologically speaking. 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:36.000 Yeah, and it has prospects of creating trillionaires. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:58.000 During the pandemic, in the United States alone, in just a matter of a few weeks at the peak of the pandemic, there was a $775 billion increase in the wealth of the already billionaires. 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:16.000 A 25% surge in just a few weeks of their wealth, much of it related to the politically manipulated response to the so-called pandemic. 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:28.000 It's something that they have foreseen and promoted that we get organized in this way to radically change the economy. 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:41.000 And these radical changes, such as the lockdown, happen to be fantastically beneficial, like Jeff Bezos of Amazon. 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:50.000 I think it was in the three-week period that his wealth increased $25 billion. 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.000 Just unreal. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:47:05.000 The Pentagon and the Rockefeller Institute, for years, have been advocating online shopping at digital currencies and so on. 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:12.000 Set down your local retailers, go to Amazon. 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:21.000 And all of this seems to coincide or synergize with, like, not being told to stay inside, and then our lungs and our immune systems, our skin. 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:26.000 We're not getting exposed to natural pathogens. 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:33.000 And our immune systems aren't given a chance to kind of naturally, you know, protect ourselves, right? 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:35.000 Like, it all goes together. 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:45.000 You know, the indoor atmosphere tends to concentrate aerosols, viruses, or bacteria. 00:47:45.000 --> 00:48:00.000 And in the winter, the lower humidity when you're heating the house, that makes the respiratory membranes extremely sensitive to these aerosols. 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:23.000 So staying indoors in the winter is predictable to cause respiratory disease, and getting vaccinated for influenza tremendously increases your next year's susceptibility to capturing the coronavirus. 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:35.000 Speaking of serotonin in the early stages, obviously it means that there's a greater -- and autism is skyrocketing and a greater chance of, like, all kinds of, like, trouble. 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:44.000 This also means sickness and rigidity later in life or even in subsequent generations, even if you don't develop autism or something like that, right? 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:58.000 You know, serotonin is one of the main factors in increasing DNA methylation, turning off DNA copying into proteins. 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:14.000 That happens progressively with aging, and aging and stress cause it to be passed on to the -- through the egg and the sperm, it's passed on to the offspring. 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:29.000 It's an acquired genetic change, which tends to persist unless you intervene, tends to just, by its own momentum, persist for four or five generations. 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:42.000 In animals, you see it as reduced brain size following your great-great-grandparents' stress, still influencing the prenatal development of the brain. 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:58.000 Are some of these interventions that might be able to stop those processes, like the various things that we're going to be talking about in this conversation that are, like, anticeratoneursic at their base? 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:20.000 Yeah. The things that preserve and increase your tissue carbon dioxide are holding down, even if your intestine is producing quite a bit of serotonin. 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:44.000 If your carbon dioxide is being maintained at a high level in your whole body, the titlets will then be able to transport, pick up the serotonin from your intestine and bind it tightly so it passes through your whole blood circulatory system 00:50:44.000 --> 00:51:12.000 and is carried to the lungs where the sudden release disappearance of the carbon dioxide and surge in of oxygen causes the platelets to spill their serotonin into the lung air chambers where the lung tissue is able -- 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:19.000 with mono-amino oxidase functions, your lungs destroy the serotonin. 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:36.000 So every bit of the serotonin in your blood, if your lungs are in good condition without serotonin poisoning, they will destroy the serotonin that's released there. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:47.000 The liver destroys some as the blood passes through there, but the lungs are the main anticeratone organ. 00:51:47.000 --> 00:52:09.000 And so if you mess with the lungs, such as any irritation, it could be breathing acid vapors, but a virus has a similar effect to interfere with the lungs' ability to destroy serotonin, 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:33.000 creating the poor diffusion of oxygen, but allowing continued loss of carbon dioxide and creating pulmonary hypertension, water logging of the lungs, 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:37.000 leading to all of the other degenerative things. 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:53.000 So thyroid is an essential thing to maintain because that's the crucial thing for producing a high ratio of carbon dioxide to energy metabolized. 00:52:53.000 --> 00:53:03.000 Got it. So really in this conversation, all the things that we're talking about that are pro-metabolic and all the things that oppose serotonin and oppose estrogen, oppose stress in general, 00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:18.000 are all really practical and fantastic ways to promote this more cellular -- like a better cellular respiratory environment, better go-to environment. 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.000 Ray, this is great. 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:30.000 I want to kind of flip the conversational coin a little bit, and if possible, if you're into it, go kind of into a more optimistic kind of vantage point. 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.000 Would you be willing to dive deeply into the physiology of playfulness? 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:37.000 I do feel like it's kind of the other side of the coin. 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:52.000 Yeah, it's exactly what the organism does as long as it isn't poisoned in the desperation and harm avoidance and authoritarianism. 00:53:52.000 --> 00:54:18.000 Playfulness is questioning, tentativeness, doubting of everything, testing the environment, a constant openness to experience, listening to possibilities. 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:37.000 And that should go on for decades, not just childhood, but the autistic kid loses playfulness right away, never has it. 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:53.000 And you can see the imposition of an autistic manner in universities where a third of entering freshmen are now in anxiety states, 00:54:53.000 --> 00:55:14.000 a horrible instance of using antidepressants and anti-anxiety drugs in college because of the powerful authoritarian manner that's taking place to survive in the economy. 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:28.000 You're supposed to have a degree from a high-quality university, if possible, and have high academic ranking and so on, so you have to please your professors. 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:44.000 And the cost is increasing, so that becomes another anxiety-producing factor that it's hard to imagine taking a playful attitude towards higher education. 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:59.000 You would be considered insane. The actual higher education is impossible if you don't have a playful attitude. 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:08.000 You're not going to do effective research if you don't start questioning assumptions. 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:20.000 The essence of discovering things is to discover the error of the assumptions in the existing way of seeing things. 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:34.000 And it sounds like that's exactly why, culturally speaking, we are informed that after a certain age we should not be playful anymore, right, because it exposes the culture itself. Is that true? 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:55.000 Yeah. If you look at people like Albert Censorgi, for example, all of his writing, you can see a playfulness and even silliness now and then. 00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:02.000 I love that. I'll have to get into more of his work. I haven't read as much as I'd like to. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:21.000 And, Red, do you think the human race is really going downhill and we're going to lose what it means to be kind of a communal, cooperative, compassionate society if, biologically speaking, we're of such low energy that we forget how to play? 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:40.000 Yeah. The people who are in power now for the last 40 years, Margaret Thatcher in the '80s in England, summed it up as, "There is no such thing as society." 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:55.000 And that's exactly where people used to realize their potentials was by exploratory interactions in society. 00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:23.000 The physicists who went off into a private world were, some of them actually, mathematical physicists, sometimes with their alternate universe theories, actually got so deeply involved that they were functionally insane. 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:33.000 Wow. And it's like wasting our chance at human existence, right? I mean, it just feels like such a waste. 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:43.000 Yeah. They are deliberately destroying playfulness and the sense of society. 00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:59.000 What are some other examples to you, Ray, of how sense of humor goes along with playfulness in terms of – you mentioned Szent-Györgyi and how he had elements of humor play in his work. 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:25.000 I think William Blake is history's best example of using a kind of silliness of not accepting anyone's established meaning for the important words. 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:51.000 Looking at the basic things that people say and then opening up the possibilities, showing what their momentum of accumulated beliefs has – how it has limited their understanding 00:59:51.000 --> 01:00:10.000 and showing the opposite potential of the standard accepted words is using punning in a constructive way. 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.000 Do analogies fit right in with that? 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:27.000 Yeah. You have to use metaphor and analogy constantly. If you don't, your brain isn't working at all. 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:35.000 Interesting. Ray, there's a few quotes I'd love to share with you, if you don't mind, and just listen to your perspective on them. 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:45.000 I've collected these over the years, and I've often kind of like reflected on them. One is – I guess this was attributed to St. Bernard of Clairvoy. 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.000 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:59.000 And another one is Alan Watts' line, where he quips, "Kindly let me help you, or you will drown," said the monkey, putting the fish safely up a tree. 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:05.000 And then a third is Schopenhauer, who said, "It is perfectly obvious the whole world is going to hell. 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:11.000 The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so." 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:25.000 So in thinking about those lines, do you think there might be a lot of people who are just so ambitious to help the world and change things that they really don't know enough and maybe they're just mucking it up? 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:44.000 Yeah, the road to hell, paved with good intentions, illustrates the idea that the brain shouldn't get focused on planning but on receptivity. 01:01:44.000 --> 01:02:02.000 Like Carl Rogers, he did a study of therapists and their effectiveness. He found out that the ideology or theory of how they were doing therapy had nothing to do with their success. 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:12.000 It was simply their personality. If they were receptive and perceptive, they were successful. 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:36.000 What they were intending was irrelevant because to the extent that you are preordaining the outcome by planning, you're limiting, closing off possible futures. 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:42.000 You're blocking your receptivity to the extent that you're planning. 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:52.000 That seems to go in line with something I've read of yours where you said, it was in one of your articles, you said that all knowledge is basically provisional. 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.000 Does that kind of go in the same line? 01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:22.000 Yeah. When you know something, it becomes part of your memory, and that means that it is fixed, your memory should stay in contact with the context where it was formed. 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:38.000 From established knowledge, you can make deductions, but you're never going to learn anything new by making deductions or planning based on established knowledge. 01:03:38.000 --> 01:04:02.000 So recognizing that that is closed to the extent that it is merely memory, then you see that there's a constant inflow from the environment causing you to have to reorder what the past means, what your memory means. 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:31.000 So instead of being able to make deductions from the existing knowledge that you have, you have to be open and questioning, constantly moving into the unknown future because that's the source of all possibility and making your knowledge more valid. 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:38.000 And thinking of memory as anything concrete is really an oxymoron, isn't it? 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:52.000 I remember I think you were talking with Danny Roddy and Georgi Dinkov, and you were talking about how memory, when we access memory, really, we're not accessing anything that's there, that we're creating something new every time we go into memory, right? 01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:18.000 Yeah. Your organism developed with that experience, and each experience is part of your organism because you developed through that stage, and so you're making inferences about the past from your present knowledge. 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:27.000 The organism is always changing as a unit. 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:41.000 Ray, you mentioned in an earlier conversation of ours that anxiety and panic attacks are very closely related to serotonin and what you call the generalized energy inflammation problem. 01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:54.000 And you said that that, along with the general public acceptance of the fascist ideology that blocks some of the hopeful recuperative escape routes that earlier generations had, could you go into that a little more? 01:05:54.000 --> 01:06:01.000 And in terms of the fascist ideology, what is that that you're talking about? 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:27.000 The closing receptivity, if you are in a fearful state, you hope that something will save you, and in that fearful state, you aren't going out and questioning things. 01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:46.000 You tend to become dependent, and any power source that promises to save you tends to ineffectively be worshiped. 01:06:46.000 --> 01:07:12.000 And so the anxious college student is, in effect, worshipping the professor or the potential employer who is going to save his status and society or his general well-being. 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:32.000 And so the professor, the future employer, and the government that empowers those powers, all of those become life-central factors. 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:44.000 It's a life-and-death matter for the person in this anxiety state, and so they become very dangerous. 01:07:44.000 --> 01:08:11.000 They are organizable, useful to the powers, but they hate anyone who descends, and they will, to defend themselves, that they feel they have to destroy opposition. 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:21.000 And so it leads into an organic, sadistic kind of power system. 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000 Unlike a type of a war path, so to speak. 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.000 Yeah. 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:39.000 So it sounds like a summary of this fascist ideology is really everything we're talking about, which is culturally debilitating, for the most part, right? 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:53.000 Yeah, I see the mask wearing as a symbolic indicator of the fascist mentality spreading. 01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:06.000 I've seen too many incidents or reports of incidents where someone who's wearing a mat will, like, yell or push or get into it with someone who's not wearing it. 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.000 Yeah, right. 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.000 It's just nuts. 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:20.000 Ray, a friend of mine once mentioned, and this is just like going kind of into the deeper picture of the organism. 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:25.000 I'm just curious about this, and if this kind of analogy kind of works. 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:30.000 But he mentioned that it might be helpful to think of the organism as a wire for flowing electrons, 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:36.000 and that everything that withdraws electrons might help them flow from their origin, like food, 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:44.000 to their final destination, like oxygen, methyl and blue, CO2, and vice versa, that everything that inhibits that flow will be disease-causing. 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.000 Is this kind of a reasonable way to look at it? 01:09:47.000 --> 01:10:05.000 If you think of it as a big, fat, complex wire, the flow of electrons is the thing that differentiates and causes progression and sensitivity and all those things. 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:22.000 And anything that blocks that flow is triggering the defensive closing reactions, inflammation, calcification, apathy. 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:29.000 Okay, and maybe like a big complex tube also, right, like things come in and things go out? 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000 What was that? 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:36.000 I've heard people talk about the organism as like a big complex tube. 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:53.000 Also, yeah, the carbon dioxide is one of the things that facilitates smooth conduction and differentiation. 01:10:53.000 --> 01:11:13.000 And so you have a controlled inflow of oxygen and carbon dioxide out as the beginning and end of that electron flow. 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:21.000 Other than like living at high altitude and some of the other things that we've talked about that might be real therapeutic as far as CO2 is concerned, 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.000 do you have any other nuggets? 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:39.000 Avoiding polyunsaturated fats is very important because any time you're under stress, they become an important part of that damage cycle, 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:47.000 estrogen, serotonin, nitric oxide, anthotensin and so on. 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.000 And it doesn't matter if the stress is real or perceived, right? 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000 Is this is happening when you think that you're under stress? 01:11:54.000 --> 01:12:03.000 Yeah, the tightening process of anxiety goes with hyperventilation. 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:17.000 The polyunsaturated fats interfere with mitochondrial respiration and with movement and use of thyroid hormone and so on. 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:30.000 So they are acting as insulators, reducing the whole level of the flow of energy. 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:31.000 Okay. 01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000 And, Ray, I know you've done this a million times, and so I appreciate you fielding a question like this. 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:46.000 But just for listeners who, they hear the word polyunsaturated fats and maybe they're not clear as to like what food sources of polyunsaturated fats might be culprit. 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:55.000 Could you just go into briefly like what are some really big examples of things that can be destructive as far as polyunsaturated fats? 01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:06.000 All of the liquid cooking oils and fish oil are high in polyunsaturated fats. 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:21.000 Olive oil has the virtue of tasting very good in small quantities, but it contains 8% or 10% of the toxic polyunsaturated fats. 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:30.000 So I think it's good to be restrained in use of even a good oil like olive oil. 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:58.000 Butter and coconut oil are 3%, so even those, I think, should be used in moderation, making sure that you're able to burn immediately the fats that you're eating so that there isn't a noticeable amount of polyunsaturated 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:09.000 fats to go into storage to build up and deteriorate and come out later as a sort of terminal stressor. 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:18.000 Does that ability to burn fat and use it have anything to do with the Randle cycle as far as like your body's preference of? 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:46.000 Yeah, under stress, you liberate fatty acids which block the use of oxygen to use glucose, and so it slows down your whole oxidative process but shifts it so that you are oxidizing fat instead of glucose. 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:56.000 And that leads to a production of lactic acid with necessary stress. 01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:10.000 So fasting or the ketogenic diet puts you into that reducing stress state, reductive stress. 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:23.000 So when a person gets even hungry, they've almost – I mean, when someone's really so hungry and they start to notice that they're becoming heritable, is this a sign of almost you've gone too long without eating too? 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:38.000 Yeah, when you get irritable, it's because you're being internally – you're sensing that something is damaging you, and so it's a defensive aggression. 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.000 Ray, I want to ask you about a few other supplements I'm just really curious about. 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000 I've been curious about for years. 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:53.000 I've done some research, and a couple of them – the cat for me is still not out of the bag, so to speak, but one of them is theanine. 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:56.000 It's a compound in green tea leaves. 01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.000 Does this fit into the picture of like reducing serotonin at all? 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:05.000 I think it has a moderate effect. 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:10.000 Okay, and so it's worth maybe experimenting with, you think? 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:18.000 As far as I know, it's harmless, so I think it's okay to experiment with it. 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:26.000 And that's differentiating between green tea, which has other stuff in it that maybe we don't want, and just the isolated amino acids being – 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:34.000 Yeah, actually black tea with its caffeine is better for most things. 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.000 Okay, what about taurine? 01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000 I've heard a lot about taurine. 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:43.000 Do you know anything about the amino acid taurine? 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:55.000 I know a lot of people who use it seemingly without harm, but I'm not confident enough that it has any value that I would use it myself. 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.000 Okay, cool. 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:12.000 With supplements like these or any other supplements that might antagonize serotonin, is there ever like a rebound effect for any of these substances? 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.000 Nothing that I know of. 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:23.000 Okay, so the body won't like respond – if it lowers serotonin, it won't respond on the other side with like increasing it or something? 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:29.000 No, I think the body is happy when the serotonin goes down. 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:30.000 Awesome. 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.000 That was something that I've been curious about. 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:35.000 What about sodium, Ray? 01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:42.000 I wanted to touch on a few things before we kind of move into the end of our talk, and I really appreciate your time again. 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:43.000 It's so cool. 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.000 But what about sodium as it relates to lowering serotonin? 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:52.000 I think a lot of people have the idea, at least from people who I've chatted with, that they seem to think that salt is bad. 01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.000 I know so many people who are actually trying to restrict salt. 01:17:55.000 --> 01:18:00.000 Can you talk about that a little bit? 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:17.000 The restriction of salt overlaps in several ways with the restriction of calcium, and both of those – when you restrict salt, you increase aldosterone, 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:31.000 and aldosterone activates parathyroid hormone, which activates removal of calcium from your bones and all of those degenerative processes. 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:49.000 So restricting sodium ends up in the same place in some ways as restricting calcium, and getting enough vitamin D and calcium, 01:18:49.000 --> 01:19:02.000 you can tolerate changes in your sodium intake better if you have a very generous intake of calcium and vitamin D. 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:26.000 The suppression of aldosterone by eating more sodium than you need corresponds closely to the inhibition of parathyroid hormone when you eat more calcium and vitamin D than the minimum requirement. 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:47.000 And aldosterone activates not only parathyroid hormone the way serotonin does, but it even turns on some estrogen processes in the tissue. 01:19:47.000 --> 01:20:00.000 So restricting sodium is very dangerous in the long run as far as degenerative inflammatory processes go. 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.000 I think that was a really good summary. 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.000 And I know you also mentioned vitamin D, right? 01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:20.000 If we're not getting outside and getting an hour or so of good sunlight a day, would vitamin D supplement, like as a – I think it's colocalciferol, would that be a legitimate way to supplement vitamin D? 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:40.000 Yeah, vitamin D3. Make sure you aren't getting the fungal vitamin D2. It has many of the good functions, but it probably doesn't have all of the good functions that D3 has. 01:20:40.000 --> 01:21:09.000 And it seems like the protective level of 50 or 60 nanograms per milliliter of 25 hydroxycolic calciferol, to keep those levels up, most people seem to need 4 or 5,000 units of vitamin D per day as a supplement if they aren't getting. 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.000 If they aren't getting lots of sunlight. 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:31.000 Okay, cool. That's good to know. Ray, I had a question. It's kind of related to LSD, but I've noticed in my experience a few times with psilocybin that it does kind of act as a kind of like dissipator of the filter of perception. 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:39.000 And I'm curious if it acts in similar ways as like LSD in that regard? Do you know much about that? 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.000 No. I've never eaten that kind of mushrooms. 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:51.000 Okay. Yeah, I'm just totally curious, just experimentally curious about that. 01:21:51.000 --> 01:22:12.000 Yeah, the Mexican rituals using the psilocybin mushrooms produced very interesting results that actually seemed they considered it their long distance mail service. 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000 Oh, wow. 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:25.000 Okay, quinine. My last question about kind of like different things that might be agents that can be used to lower serotonin. 01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:30.000 Quinine, like in a good tonic water, is that a serotonin antagonist, you know? 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.000 I don't know. 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:39.000 Okay. Yeah, I want to look more into that. I've experimented with that through the years because I think I've read that somewhere. 01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:46.000 And I'm super curious about that. 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:58.000 Okay, Ray, just curious, you know, before we go on with our days here, what are some things that you're currently desiring in or of life, Ray? 01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:04.000 And like in relation to like some of the things that are going on, like what could maybe be the best thing that we hope for? 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:09.000 And what are some things that you're really excited that you're working on? 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:27.000 Oh, I continue working on the issue of reductive stress, which everything in our environment is tending to increase. 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:35.000 And so my hope is that all of those things can be brought under control. 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:54.000 And that means massive changes in the population, stopping being so fearful and obedient and start working on constructive alternatives for the future, 01:23:54.000 --> 01:24:14.000 rather than the constricted closing of opportunity, such as opposing online education, I think is an important place to start putting attention, 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:28.000 because the government has coerced schools and universities into reducing actual classes, turning them into online things, 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:43.000 which the direction they're already plotting essentially to improve the online education quality by firing most of the professors 01:24:43.000 --> 01:25:01.000 and having a great multiplication of the students using the approved Pew Harvard Yale Stanford professors, for example, 01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:22.000 and augmenting them with virtual reality artificial intelligence, which will take – to have the best virtual reality supplements to the elite lectures. 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:37.000 They will have elite corporations producing the very best virtual reality programs so that everything is tending towards monopoly, 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:43.000 and online education is the shortest route to absolute monopoly. 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:54.000 Do you think the best way to oppose this kind of thing is to kind of grassroots, like form, experiential, experience-based kind of communities? 01:25:54.000 --> 01:26:03.000 And I mean, because it seems like a lot of teachers are quitting also, because the teachers who don't want to go that route are just quitting, 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:08.000 which almost seems like it's almost making it easier for this to happen. 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.000 I mean, what's the best way to oppose something like that? 01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:14.000 Yeah, they would be fired eventually anyway. 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.000 Yeah. 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:32.000 And so that's creating the opportunity, if it occurs to people to take advantage of it, we can organize separately from it. 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:47.000 Do you think there's a – if there is an organization separate from it, communities formed and such, do you think there's – our days of being able to operate away from some of the nonsense are numbered, 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000 or do you think there's still a chance for us to do that? 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:50.000 I mean – 01:26:50.000 --> 01:27:03.000 I think it all depends on how fast people can realize that they're being tricked and defrodden and robbed. 01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:04.000 Yeah. 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:09.000 Do you think you're going to be sticking around where you are for a while, or do you think there's a relocation for you at some point? 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:10.000 Yep. 01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:18.000 I'm hopeful that it can happen in the next year or so. 01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.000 Me too. 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.000 Ray, this has been wonderful. 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:26.000 I know our listeners are going to love this. 01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:38.000 Below the talk in the info, I'm going to link a couple of the articles that I've read over the years and really gleaned a lot of information in regards to serotonin and serotonin issues. 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.000 And I'm going to put your website on there. 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:47.000 And other than that, do you have any kind of parting words for people who might be listening? 01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:50.000 Nope. 01:27:50.000 --> 01:28:00.000 Investigating the tricks that they're using to promote the happy hormone idea of serotonin, 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:08.000 just investigating how crooked science is being made by the marketing industries. 01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:23.000 That's one entry point to seeing how the whole system has rigged just a vast interlocking system of corruption. 01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:24.000 Yeah, I love that. 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:35.000 It seems like a lot of people now are like people who are confronting the dogma and like the things that are coming out of scientific institutions and saying, "Hey, that's not right." 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:41.000 And now they're being labeled by all the obedient people as anti-science. 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:42.000 I think it's funny. 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:49.000 Where reality is, right, like the people who are actually questioning this stuff are actually practicing science because it's fullest. 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:53.000 Yeah, you have good science versus corrupt science. 01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:55.000 Yeah, I like that. 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:58.000 Well, Ray, have a wonderful rest of your day. 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000 And this has been amazing. 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:01.000 I really appreciate your time. 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.000 And thank you for the talk. 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000 Okay, thank you. 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.000 Bye. 01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:07.000 All right, bye. 01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:17.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]