WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.640 And you're listening to WMNF 88.5 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:12.560 On your dial WMNF Tampa and this is the ultrasound show on every Thursday night 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:19.640 From 11 to 1. My name is Elove and tonight we have special guests 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:27.080 We're going to be speaking with Dr. Ray Peat who has a PhD in biology from the University of Oregon with 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.960 specialization physiology. He's taught at several universities including the Uni of Oregon and 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:39.860 Montana State University and also the National College of Naturopathic Medicine and 00:00:39.860 --> 00:00:45.640 Black College. He also conducts private nutritional counseling and today 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:50.200 We're speaking with him about the effects of stress and trauma on the body 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.400 Greetings and welcome to the ultrasound show 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.480 Okay, so let's dive in 00:00:58.480 --> 00:01:04.240 Tonight's theme is really about how the body reacts to stress and trauma 00:01:04.240 --> 00:01:10.360 So let's first talk about day to day stress and what happens to the body and the brain 00:01:10.360 --> 00:01:13.200 physiologically 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:15.320 The first thing is that 00:01:15.320 --> 00:01:20.680 If you're really healthy, you can meet challenges without 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.360 experiencing 00:01:23.360 --> 00:01:26.240 Something that on cell you would have called stress 00:01:26.240 --> 00:01:29.600 For example 00:01:29.600 --> 00:01:31.600 if you 00:01:31.600 --> 00:01:33.640 Are not very healthy 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:39.840 Just skipping a meal can put you in really serious stress, but a healthy person 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.280 stores something like seven or eight ounces of 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:47.720 glucose in the form of glycogen in the liver and 00:01:47.720 --> 00:01:50.640 muscles and brain and 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.760 since 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.640 At rest muscles can burn 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.520 primarily fatty acids 00:01:58.520 --> 00:02:02.280 Your brain is the main thing that consumes 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:05.800 Glucose so if you're 00:02:05.800 --> 00:02:09.520 More or less 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:17.880 Inactive and relaxed you can easily go 12 to 15 hours without eating and without having any stress at all 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:24.560 but if you're not able to store that much glycogen and 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:30.160 For example low thyroid people or people with a history of severe stress 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:34.720 Aren't able to store very much glycogen and so 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:40.200 When you run out of sugar whether it's from going 00:02:40.200 --> 00:02:45.120 All day without eating or because your liver isn't very efficient 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.440 then if your body tries to 00:02:49.440 --> 00:02:51.440 Increase the available 00:02:51.440 --> 00:02:53.960 glucose 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.560 normally just 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:57.560 Being awake makes enough 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:05.080 Adrenaline to mobilize as much of the glucose from your stores as you need 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:10.880 But when you run out of that stored sugar 00:03:10.880 --> 00:03:14.080 Your brain still requires 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.960 sugar to 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.000 function properly and 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.480 so 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:25.000 Instead of just increasing the adrenaline more and more when the adrenaline 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:31.200 Reaches a certain level and can't get the blood sugar up out of your storage 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:35.640 Then you turn on the cortisol and that's the classic 00:03:35.640 --> 00:03:39.600 Stress that can be harmful because it the cortisol 00:03:39.600 --> 00:03:43.400 dissolves our first tissues like the 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.160 assignments which are very fragile 00:03:46.600 --> 00:03:48.600 That starts turning to sugar 00:03:48.600 --> 00:03:50.480 just 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:53.520 immediately when you run out of stored glycogen and 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:59.760 When the thymus is gone in just two or three hours of intense stress 00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:04.960 That happens to be one of the reasons they think adults 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.640 don't have thymus glands because by the time they're dead and 00:04:11.760 --> 00:04:15.640 Are analyzed the thymus has been eaten up by stress 00:04:15.640 --> 00:04:20.760 So they might have had a perfectly normal thymus until they were sick and dead 00:04:20.760 --> 00:04:27.160 But after the thymus is consumed and turned to sugar then 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.680 the cortisol starts breaking down your muscles and 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.960 then the skin and 00:04:33.960 --> 00:04:40.640 the brain lungs and heart are spared from stress partly because they are 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.080 very 00:04:43.080 --> 00:04:44.320 saturated 00:04:44.320 --> 00:04:46.400 in a healthy person with 00:04:46.400 --> 00:04:52.120 androgens testosterone and DHEA especially which block the 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.120 breakdown function of cortisol and 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:00.680 If your brain lungs and heart are short of those 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:06.760 Protective steroids, then that's where the stress really starts 00:05:06.760 --> 00:05:08.640 causing 00:05:08.640 --> 00:05:10.640 severe deadly damage and 00:05:10.640 --> 00:05:14.040 The 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.040 Post-traumatic stress disorder 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:23.320 Is produced when someone has had such terrible stress such as being tortured or? 00:05:23.320 --> 00:05:25.920 or being in 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:27.160 terrific 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:28.760 catastrophes 00:05:28.760 --> 00:05:30.920 They not only deplete their 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.960 stored 00:05:33.960 --> 00:05:36.480 glycogen and break down the 00:05:37.400 --> 00:05:40.320 expendable tissues like thymus and liver but 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:45.920 Then the cortisol starts damaging the brain and heart and so on so they get 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.800 very severe 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.880 chronic symptoms and 00:05:50.880 --> 00:05:58.040 Once the stress is completely resolved then the brain can massively regenerate itself 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.880 for example, they've seen MRIs of 00:06:01.880 --> 00:06:04.760 girls who had simply been 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:10.520 in the anorexia for months their brain shrinks from the 00:06:10.520 --> 00:06:14.400 Living on the cortisol breaking down their tissues 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:21.400 But once they start eating then the brain can rebuild itself in just a few weeks 00:06:21.400 --> 00:06:24.560 Now how often does one? 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:31.400 have to eat or is it required or recommended for one to eat in order to 00:06:31.400 --> 00:06:34.040 not have this 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.040 stress reaction happen 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.520 the 00:06:38.520 --> 00:06:40.520 famous Argentine 00:06:40.520 --> 00:06:46.240 biologist Bernardo who sighed in the 1940s I think he was the first one to show that 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:50.280 If he fed his animals only once a day 00:06:50.280 --> 00:06:55.240 They not only tended to get fat on the same amount of calories, but they 00:06:55.240 --> 00:07:02.440 Had a high incidence of diabetes, but if he fed them at least three times a day or more 00:07:03.320 --> 00:07:11.240 Then they were very resistant to diabetes and were less fattened on a given number of calories 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.360 so 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:21.840 More or less nibbling all the time is the safest thing. But if you have a really good diet and 00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:24.960 aren't under emotional 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:27.160 pressure 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.160 Then the person can 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.360 Get along on 00:07:31.520 --> 00:07:33.520 one or two meals a day 00:07:33.520 --> 00:07:36.120 Now let's talk about a really good diet 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:43.440 What is a really good diet for the optimal health of the body the brain the heart all of the organs? 00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:45.720 there's a lot of 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.800 disputes and conversations about optimal diets 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.440 Does it differ with different people or is there an overall? 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:58.960 Optimal and then there's little bits and pieces that different people with different blood types can do 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:07.320 The blood type has almost no effect because you can see in a even very different 00:08:07.320 --> 00:08:09.200 species of 00:08:09.200 --> 00:08:11.080 animal 00:08:11.080 --> 00:08:16.280 That have very different ways of living you can see the same processes 00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:23.480 So there's a universal animal 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.440 diet that is 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:33.560 optimal but the proportions vary with the type of activity and your body size and 00:08:33.560 --> 00:08:38.560 Metabolic rate 00:08:38.560 --> 00:08:45.440 And personal history your previous stresses will affect what you need 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:53.640 So let's talk about someone who perhaps is not that healthy and that does have stress which is quite common 00:08:53.640 --> 00:08:56.280 What would be the recommended? 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.360 Diet for them. What's some of the things that they can eat? 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:06.240 One of the reasons that the single meal eaters tend to get fat and diabetic 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:14.160 Is that it triggers a great surge of insulin and the insulin then triggers? 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:20.960 Cortisol and so if you can eat foods that don't trigger insulin 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.960 that's the ideal thing and 00:09:24.680 --> 00:09:26.680 fruit happens to be the 00:09:26.680 --> 00:09:29.680 best single type of food 00:09:29.680 --> 00:09:33.120 for not triggering the stress reaction because 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:41.040 It combines very small amounts of protein with large amounts of sugar and the minerals 00:09:41.040 --> 00:09:44.840 Potassium happens to 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:49.080 handle the sugar in place of insulin and 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.720 the fructose 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:53.200 component of 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.040 fruit sugar 00:09:55.040 --> 00:09:57.040 Doesn't require insulin 00:09:57.040 --> 00:09:59.120 so 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.600 Eating a lot of fruit even in one meal a day 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:09.720 produces a much smaller amount of insulin obesity and cortisol 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:12.520 than eating for example 00:10:12.520 --> 00:10:15.160 just one big meal of 00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:18.000 meat and potatoes for example 00:10:18.680 --> 00:10:22.920 meat powerfully stimulates insulin and cortisol and 00:10:22.920 --> 00:10:26.200 starches are more 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.720 stimulating to insulin than sugars 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:34.040 So it's almost counterintuitive when you're talking about 00:10:34.040 --> 00:10:41.160 Taking in fructose in the form of fruit with people that are insulin sensitive 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:45.240 Well for about a hundred years 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.960 fructose has been 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:53.160 recognized as the ideal sugar for diabetics because they can metabolize it 00:10:53.160 --> 00:10:55.960 without needing 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:57.760 insulin 00:10:57.760 --> 00:10:59.960 It used to be sold in 00:10:59.960 --> 00:11:07.240 Health food stores all across the country and you can still find it in in most health food stores for diabetics 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.400 now let's 00:11:09.400 --> 00:11:13.240 talk about high fructose corn syrup and the difference between 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.840 fructose from fruit 00:11:17.520 --> 00:11:22.080 The funny thing about that is that if you look at the 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.720 fructose and glucose 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:27.640 content it 00:11:27.640 --> 00:11:32.000 Seems to be not very different from any old sugar maybe 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.800 45 55 percent 00:11:34.800 --> 00:11:39.200 Rather than a exact 50/50 balance for toast and glucose 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.920 but people 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:43.960 actually thought to 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:47.200 Analyze what is in the stuff other than? 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.440 fructose and glucose 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:53.400 It turns out that the reason people get fat on 00:11:53.400 --> 00:11:58.760 Soft drinks that contain it is that it contains a huge amount of calories 00:11:58.760 --> 00:12:01.480 That are neither 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.160 glucose nor fructose 00:12:03.160 --> 00:12:09.400 It's the syrupy component basically a type of corn starch or corn syrup 00:12:09.400 --> 00:12:10.960 which 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:16.400 They don't count it because it isn't fructose or glucose, but it's there as calories 00:12:16.400 --> 00:12:23.160 Now they're using this in so many different things from salad dressings to soft drinks 00:12:23.160 --> 00:12:28.920 Yeah, it was a trick because of the 00:12:28.920 --> 00:12:32.560 boycott of Cuban sugar starting in the 00:12:32.560 --> 00:12:35.240 60s 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:41.160 The price of sugar went up because they wouldn't buy it from where it was cheap 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:47.600 so the corn starch producers have learned how to 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.040 produce something resembling sugar and 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:56.680 It's really like the old kerosene syrup, which was 00:12:56.680 --> 00:13:03.440 Not a very appetizing way to sweeten things, but during the Second World War 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:10.400 The I think the Germans pioneered it but in the United States 00:13:10.400 --> 00:13:13.680 Sugar was scarce and the corn syrup 00:13:13.680 --> 00:13:16.600 started being used in 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.600 canned things and even 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:23.880 in homes as a substitute for sugar 00:13:23.880 --> 00:13:26.680 but the 00:13:26.680 --> 00:13:29.560 Sweeter 00:13:29.560 --> 00:13:37.560 form more palatable form that they call high fructose corn syrup was developed in the 60s in response to the 00:13:37.560 --> 00:13:40.480 increased price of sugar 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.680 It's amazing. They've done similar things with oils too 00:13:44.680 --> 00:13:50.320 in using oils that are quite toxic in our foods 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.720 Yeah 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:55.800 cottonseed industry 00:13:55.800 --> 00:13:58.120 was a major 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.760 power behind that way back in the end of the 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:04.440 1800s 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.440 the 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:11.560 Gin of to make cotton textiles 00:14:11.560 --> 00:14:18.160 More more economical they had machines to get the seeds out of the cotton and 00:14:18.160 --> 00:14:27.400 In proportion to the production of cotton they were accumulating seeds that were too toxic to feed to animals and 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.840 They found that they could squeeze oil out of the cottonseed and 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:40.640 By chemically hardening it they could sell it as artificial butter and 00:14:40.640 --> 00:14:46.000 The butter industry finally 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.560 They were 00:14:50.560 --> 00:14:53.520 for I guess about 20 years required to 00:14:53.520 --> 00:14:56.360 sell it in a 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:03.320 Colorless state and the person had to add color so that it wouldn't ruin the the butter industry, but 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.680 the seed 00:15:05.680 --> 00:15:10.320 industry seed oil industry gradually got powerful enough that they could 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:13.520 Convince people that's better than butter 00:15:13.520 --> 00:15:21.880 But in fact it has many toxic effects that butter doesn't have is this the same as rapeseed oil? 00:15:23.760 --> 00:15:26.560 The first rapeseed oil 00:15:26.560 --> 00:15:29.800 happened to cause 00:15:29.800 --> 00:15:32.120 severe heart disease and 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:37.600 the industry wanted to sell it for margarine and cooking oil and so on and 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:45.560 There was a particular oil in that plant that they decided to blame 00:15:45.560 --> 00:15:48.400 the heart 00:15:48.400 --> 00:15:49.840 injury on 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:51.840 but Han Selly 00:15:53.400 --> 00:15:55.240 Did experiments 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:59.880 studying the the type of lesion in the heart produced by 00:15:59.880 --> 00:16:05.880 Rapeseed oil and he found that it was the linoleic acid in it 00:16:05.880 --> 00:16:08.400 Which is still in it they took out the? 00:16:08.400 --> 00:16:11.120 peculiar 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.840 unusual fatty acid but 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:15.960 the 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:20.280 essential fatty acid linoleic acid is it's heart toxic and 00:16:21.920 --> 00:16:26.480 Han Selly showed that if you added cocoa butter 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.080 Highly saturated stearic acid 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:36.680 To the rapeseed oil it no longer caused death of the heart cells 00:16:36.680 --> 00:16:40.640 So it's just the excess of polyunsaturated 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:44.080 fat that made the 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:50.600 Rapeseed oil or canola or cottonseed oil all of those 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.720 are 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:59.360 Actually toxic if you eat very much of it. What about soybean oil because they're all GMO now 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.760 Yeah 00:17:02.760 --> 00:17:04.760 It's still the polyunsaturated 00:17:04.760 --> 00:17:08.640 component which is and it turns into 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:17.640 Prostaglandins which promote all kinds of inflammation and degenerative diseases as early as 00:17:19.040 --> 00:17:21.040 1964 I 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:24.440 Think he was a Dutch researcher named Betcher 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.280 Sliced opened the 00:17:28.280 --> 00:17:30.960 lesions in 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.960 atherosclerotic arteries 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.240 at all different stages of development and 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.160 analyzed the fats in them and he saw that 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:44.120 He called it a 00:17:44.120 --> 00:17:47.280 primitive idea that cholesterol 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:49.560 got 00:17:49.560 --> 00:17:57.360 Diffused out of the blood into the artery and damaged it. He said that the situation is very different from that and 00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:00.440 many fats 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:08.400 change at the beginning before the change happens in the cholesterol and in the most advanced 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.000 lesions the farthest advanced 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.840 Atherosclerosis he found that the 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.720 content of linoleic acid 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.560 was highest the worst the lesion and 00:18:22.560 --> 00:18:28.280 after that many other people demonstrated that the 00:18:28.280 --> 00:18:34.160 Oxidation products of these unstable highly unsaturated fats 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.360 are found increasingly in the 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:40.040 atherosclerosis 00:18:40.040 --> 00:18:42.080 It's very interesting to me that 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:44.120 things like 00:18:44.120 --> 00:18:49.600 These different seed oils canola oil soybean oil high fructose corn syrup 00:18:49.600 --> 00:18:56.520 butter substitutes all of these things are being advertised as better for your health and 00:18:56.520 --> 00:18:59.400 It's really about the consumers 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:04.240 Self-educating themselves and looking beyond the advertising 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:10.520 Yeah, it's um they have to think of some 00:19:10.520 --> 00:19:13.000 excuse for 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.880 Claiming that people should buy them because they don't taste good 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.520 and so the idea that 00:19:18.520 --> 00:19:21.480 if they are essential 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.680 in some sense 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:28.080 Then the more you eat the better they are but in fact 00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:34.520 It's very questionable whether they're essential as a nutrient at all 00:19:34.520 --> 00:19:37.280 animals can live 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:44.240 More or less indefinitely you can grow cells forever in the dish without any of those 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.040 which I 00:19:47.040 --> 00:19:52.520 Think that alone proves that they're not essential nutrients and the more 00:19:52.520 --> 00:19:56.320 You increase in the diet 00:19:56.320 --> 00:19:59.040 There's a direct 00:19:59.040 --> 00:20:06.280 relationship with the incidence of spontaneous cancer in proportion to the essential fatty acids so called and 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:14.480 That was first demonstrated in 1927 and over and over but the industry 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.360 keeps 00:20:17.360 --> 00:20:21.080 Publicizing them as a health food 00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:25.080 Well that's 00:20:25.080 --> 00:20:28.840 That's the way it's been for many many years and it'll probably continue 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:36.120 Although I think people are becoming more aware and being more conscious and really trying to seek out 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:39.440 different dietary options and 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.760 Going back to the roots has been a big surgence of 00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:46.320 Grass-fed beef for example 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:49.040 Yeah 00:20:49.040 --> 00:20:51.480 beyond fruits in the ideal diet 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.360 the 00:20:54.360 --> 00:20:56.360 ruminants are 00:20:56.360 --> 00:20:58.320 able to 00:20:58.320 --> 00:21:03.680 detoxify the polyunsaturated fats in grains or grasses and 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.320 It happens to be vitamin E in the grass 00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:10.160 which 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:11.920 enables them to 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.880 convert 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:19.600 polyunsaturated linoleic acid into the trans fatty acids and the 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:22.680 there's one of the 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:28.160 Components of butter or beef fat that is being sold as a drug or a health food 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:36.000 Because it counteracts the toxic effects of the polyunsaturated fats. That's called the conjugated 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.320 linoleic acid 00:21:38.320 --> 00:21:43.760 and you get some of that in beef butter cheese and milk and 00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:47.680 The 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:50.400 High 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.360 Ratio of calcium to phosphate in butter and cheese 00:21:54.360 --> 00:21:57.840 comes from the fact that 00:21:57.840 --> 00:22:01.760 green leaves if the cows are allowed to 00:22:01.760 --> 00:22:04.480 Eat at least some 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.920 hay and and grass 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:10.080 the 00:22:10.080 --> 00:22:11.920 Leaves 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:13.920 contain a 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:19.720 low amount of phosphate and a high amount of magnesium calcium and other 00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:22.520 safe minerals 00:22:22.520 --> 00:22:24.520 too much phosphate which 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:30.480 You would get on a grain based and meat based diet mostly 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:37.320 the phosphate becomes toxic when it isn't balanced by at least as much calcium and 00:22:37.320 --> 00:22:41.520 other minerals including magnesium and 00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:46.480 So milk and fruit and cheese give you the 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:48.800 main 00:22:48.800 --> 00:22:50.640 nutrients and 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.560 Then there are just the the regionally 00:22:53.560 --> 00:22:55.480 deficient 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:57.480 things such as iodine and selenium 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:01.240 That if you eat some kind of seafood 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:05.920 Then you're getting the the basic things for 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.000 anti-stress foods 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:13.600 So for vegetarians, would you say that it's a little more difficult 00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:17.120 Because they're not eating these products 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.240 Yeah, but the if you 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.880 concentrate on well-cooked greens 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:32.080 The protein and mineral balance in cooked green leafy vegetables 00:23:32.080 --> 00:23:34.840 those are 00:23:34.840 --> 00:23:36.840 Essentially the same as in milk 00:23:36.840 --> 00:23:41.040 It's just less concentrated because of the high cellulose 00:23:41.040 --> 00:23:43.960 diluting it but 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.560 if you can 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.800 Cook away or wash away or skim away 00:23:50.800 --> 00:23:53.880 the 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:59.480 Antinutrients for example too much spinach contains oxalic acid that 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.880 tends to take the calcium out of your teeth and 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:06.680 Some leafy vegetables 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.840 Have 00:24:09.840 --> 00:24:12.720 Chemicals that block your 00:24:14.520 --> 00:24:17.800 Stomach digestive enzymes, but a 00:24:17.800 --> 00:24:22.040 variety of cooked greens will provide 00:24:22.040 --> 00:24:27.600 the same type of protein that milk provides as well as the 00:24:27.600 --> 00:24:30.440 very favorable balance of 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.080 magnesium potassium and calcium in relation to phosphate 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:43.240 So aside from the spinach what other vegetables would be better off cooked as opposed to raw and do you? 00:24:43.520 --> 00:24:50.400 Advocate any raw foods or raw salads in the mix on the very juicy 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:57.880 Fruits are best raw, but if they're starchy like bananas or plantains 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:01.480 They should be cooked by preference 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.560 because the 00:25:03.560 --> 00:25:05.400 the starches 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:11.640 Can enter the bloodstream and trigger allergic reactions and too much 00:25:12.360 --> 00:25:14.280 undercooked starch 00:25:14.280 --> 00:25:18.680 It's called persarpen the particles enter the bloodstream and 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.760 can block 00:25:21.760 --> 00:25:23.920 capillaries and arterioles 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.080 causing cells to die until 00:25:26.080 --> 00:25:28.520 the 00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:34.080 The particle can be broken down, but it can stay in place long enough to kill 00:25:34.080 --> 00:25:37.040 cells in the heart and brain and lungs 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.520 Feeding mice on a very high 00:25:42.520 --> 00:25:45.640 raw starch diet 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.080 Biologists in in Germany found that 00:25:49.080 --> 00:25:53.360 they were very prematurely aged because of the 00:25:53.360 --> 00:25:59.240 Death of cells in all of their organs that were blocked by starch grains 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:07.560 So on starch like potatoes are almost a perfect food if they're very well cooked 00:26:08.560 --> 00:26:11.680 because you want to break down the starch and 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.520 the 00:26:14.520 --> 00:26:17.320 Non starch ingredients of a potato 00:26:17.320 --> 00:26:22.080 Have almost a perfect balance of nutrients 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:24.760 B vitamins 00:26:24.760 --> 00:26:29.960 The essential amino acids 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:34.400 Carbohydrate in the right proportion and 00:26:36.080 --> 00:26:41.400 The only things lacking in a pure potato diet would be vitamin A and 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.760 vitamin B12 00:26:44.760 --> 00:26:51.560 Otherwise, they're a very balanced food. Are you speaking about sweet potatoes or white potatoes? 00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:55.440 The 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.760 Some white potatoes so called contain 00:26:57.760 --> 00:27:00.560 enough carotene that 00:27:00.560 --> 00:27:02.600 that could provide 00:27:02.600 --> 00:27:05.360 the requirement of vitamin A but 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:12.560 sweet potatoes often contain so much carotene that it interferes with digestion and 00:27:12.560 --> 00:27:21.320 Too much carotene has anti hormonal effects that can slow down your production of thyroid hormones 00:27:21.320 --> 00:27:24.040 Progesterone 00:27:24.040 --> 00:27:26.040 Adrenal hormones and so on 00:27:26.040 --> 00:27:29.560 If it accumulates to the point that it's making your 00:27:29.560 --> 00:27:32.280 palms turn orange 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.960 Which it does with some people who are juicing carrots a lot 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.560 Yeah, I 00:27:39.560 --> 00:27:47.840 Constantly warn people about that. There are good chemicals in the juice good nutrition, but unless your thyroid is 00:27:47.840 --> 00:27:53.960 pretty active it's going to accumulate the carotene because 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.680 you 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:01.800 convert carotene to vitamin A if you have vitamin B12 in 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.920 proportion to how active your thyroid hormone is and 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.040 if for some reason 00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:16.160 You're getting more carotene than your vitamin B12 and thyroid can handle 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:20.000 Then it turns off the thyroid function. I 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.360 Experienced that myself 00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:25.520 about 40 years ago 00:28:25.520 --> 00:28:27.960 Eating 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.960 so many carrots that I 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.440 Suppressed my thyroid 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:39.200 But if your thyroid is good, then having a whole carrot every day has some very 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.000 important anti stress 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.720 functions 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:49.000 yesterday I heard from a woman who said that she had started a daily carrot salad and 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:53.720 Had almost immediate relief from all of her 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.000 premenstrual and digestive problems 00:28:59.040 --> 00:29:01.560 And we've measured the 00:29:01.560 --> 00:29:08.680 blood hormones in a few people after they started a daily whole carrot and 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:18.560 It's the stimulating effect on the intestine the fiber in the carrot isn't digestible and so the 00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:23.400 excretion of the bile into the liver 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.440 carries all kinds of detoxified 00:29:27.080 --> 00:29:29.080 chemicals and hormones 00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:31.120 that if you have a 00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:33.360 fiber in your intestine 00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:41.000 These toxins that the liver has got rid of will be carried out bound to the carrot fiber 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:48.000 but without enough fiber they can be reabsorbed and recycled and so your 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:54.000 estrogen tends to go up as the fiber in your diet goes down and 00:29:56.120 --> 00:30:00.720 That in turn turns off your your thyroid and progesterone 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.360 so it can cause 00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:05.360 all the symptoms of 00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:08.720 estrogen and cortisol excess and 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.840 In just three or four days we've seen the 00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:16.840 cortisol and estrogen level in the blood 00:30:16.840 --> 00:30:22.440 Drop as the progesterone comes up just from eating a daily carrot 00:30:23.360 --> 00:30:29.040 It's so interesting how the food that we eat influences everything about our body 00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:33.160 Yeah 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.340 Lots of people partly because of a bad 00:30:36.340 --> 00:30:44.600 Industrialized diet I think lots of Americans are now going around in a chronically stressed 00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:48.040 Condition it's sort of like learned 00:30:48.040 --> 00:30:51.920 helplessness or post-traumatic stress syndrome 00:30:52.840 --> 00:30:54.840 that the diet 00:30:54.840 --> 00:30:59.920 keeps people in a high cortisol high estrogen state and 00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:09.320 That's something that if you're going to have any stress you should 00:31:09.320 --> 00:31:15.760 Well before you have to do any important work 00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:18.240 you should 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.240 Make sure that your diet isn't 00:31:21.320 --> 00:31:23.920 creating the stress day by day and 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.080 for example 00:31:27.080 --> 00:31:29.860 checking your thyroid function just by 00:31:29.860 --> 00:31:34.440 measuring your temperature and pulse rate when you wake up and 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:39.280 Then in the middle of the day your they should rise 00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:44.440 so that your pulse is maybe 80 per minute at rest and your 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.960 Temperature should be around ninety eight point six at rest 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.000 Yeah in the morning. It's okay for them to be 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.520 about ten percent 00:31:54.520 --> 00:31:56.520 lower pulse rate and 00:31:56.520 --> 00:31:59.160 maybe 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.160 97.8 degrees or so 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.280 Now 00:32:04.280 --> 00:32:11.480 This can also be influencing the fact that men are having hormonal issues as well, correct 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:15.280 Who having 00:32:15.280 --> 00:32:22.920 In in other words the food that that both men and women are eating men are also having hormonal issues 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.680 It's not only women 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:25.760 Yeah 00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:32.240 When a man is on a very bad diet or is under stress or has an accident the 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.200 estrogen level rises 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.720 sharply 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.720 and in the old age 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.400 with any of the degenerative diseases 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.840 men tend to 00:32:44.840 --> 00:32:46.840 have a sharp increase in 00:32:46.840 --> 00:32:50.320 Estrogen 00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:54.400 So they can avoid this or monitor this by their diet 00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.680 Yeah, and your temperature is is the quickest way because 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.200 Estrogen lowers your temperature thyroid and progesterone and DHEA 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.880 help to maintain a 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.760 good steady 00:33:10.760 --> 00:33:13.280 high metabolic rate even at rest 00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:20.600 So when people get cold when they're sitting there in front of their desk or or at home 00:33:20.600 --> 00:33:26.580 Then that may indicate that the hormones have changed and the thyroid is dropping 00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:30.720 Yeah, and one of the tricks of the body 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.200 through 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.080 increasing the 00:33:35.080 --> 00:33:38.760 adrenaline can compensate for hypothyroidism and 00:33:38.760 --> 00:33:42.240 so some people are are 00:33:42.760 --> 00:33:44.760 hyper alert and anxious 00:33:44.760 --> 00:33:51.200 and have a high heart rate even though their thyroid is is really low and 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.720 Their temperature can be 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.080 held up and look normal 00:33:56.080 --> 00:34:03.480 Except that it's likely to be higher when you first wake up in the morning and then decrease 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.760 When you eat something so it switches 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:14.680 Yeah, because the nighttime is when you aren't eating and your adrenaline and cortisol rise 00:34:14.680 --> 00:34:17.760 Those can tear down your tissues 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.680 At such a rate that they keep your temperature up then when you eat something and lower the stress 00:34:23.680 --> 00:34:26.080 you see that your 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:29.040 metabolism is really not so high and 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:32.920 When the adrenaline is very high 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:39.480 Even though your oral temperature might seem normal your hands and feet will be cold 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.520 And maybe the tip of your nose even 00:34:42.520 --> 00:34:45.360 because the body is 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:52.560 Directing the energy so that your brain lungs and heart aren't deprived or chilled 00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:54.360 but 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.360 your body cannot 00:34:56.360 --> 00:35:01.480 Consider your hands and feet somewhat expendable and let them get very cold 00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:09.440 so if we up the stress levels, and we've been speaking mostly about general stress and 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.240 someone does have a 00:35:12.240 --> 00:35:16.400 particular experience or if they have a surgery 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:24.560 Then there's additional chemical changes, or there's more severe chemical changes some of the symptoms in post-surgery 00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:27.000 can include 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:34.360 low energy or weight gain or hormonal changes or even depression and sleep disorders and 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.960 even dementia 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:41.200 Lately they've been measuring mental function 00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:44.320 after major surgery and 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.600 for months even years after major surgery 00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:52.280 people's mental function is 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.320 often 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:55.840 slowed down 00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.120 That's because of the chronic effect of cortisol 00:35:59.120 --> 00:36:01.040 which 00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:03.880 slows nerve conduction it protects 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.600 your some of your tissues from inflammation 00:36:07.600 --> 00:36:10.480 but it 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.640 progressively 00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:15.200 damages your immune system and your 00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:18.080 nervous system 00:36:18.080 --> 00:36:21.560 So what would be the best way for recovery? 00:36:21.560 --> 00:36:25.920 And what are some of the things that people can do for recovery? 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.440 Specifically no in terms of 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.920 general diet specific things or 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.560 your advice in general 00:36:35.560 --> 00:36:37.800 the 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:44.440 thing about surgery as opposed to a car accident or or being tortured or something 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.960 is that 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.960 you can prepare for it and 00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.440 Even the standard medical sources are now 00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.120 saying that you should check 00:36:57.120 --> 00:37:02.560 thyroid function before you schedule someone for surgery because a 00:37:02.560 --> 00:37:05.240 hypothyroid person 00:37:05.240 --> 00:37:09.560 Doesn't do well in surgery because their cortisol is already high 00:37:09.560 --> 00:37:15.760 The before Hans Zellye made stress famous 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.440 an American 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:19.560 surgeon 00:37:19.560 --> 00:37:21.680 George Kryol in Cleveland 00:37:21.680 --> 00:37:26.200 hundred over a hundred years ago was studying a 00:37:26.200 --> 00:37:28.760 shock from surgery and 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.560 What you had to do to minimize? 00:37:31.560 --> 00:37:34.320 the shock and 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.840 Shock as he understood it 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.600 came to be part of 00:37:41.600 --> 00:37:43.840 shock and stress as Hans Zellye 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.840 interpreted it and 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.680 for Zellye 00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:50.680 an excess of 00:37:50.680 --> 00:37:55.040 Estrogen was enough to create the whole shock syndrome and 00:37:55.040 --> 00:37:59.120 George Kryol 00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:03.520 In in the hospital in Cleveland that he worked at in 00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:05.800 1908 the 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.400 mortality rate from all their surgeries was 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.400 4.4 percent 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:12.680 and 00:38:12.680 --> 00:38:16.080 After he devised a way to reduce stress 00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:19.320 in five years of 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:25.800 application it had cut the mortality to 1.8 percent and 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.960 His basic procedure was to 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:39.640 Convince the brain that nothing had happened. He called it an "annosy association" 00:38:39.640 --> 00:38:42.040 meaning 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:43.720 getting the 00:38:43.720 --> 00:38:45.720 brain to 00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:49.480 Not notice the the noxious 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.920 events and 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:52.960 he 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.400 found that histamine was 00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.280 released by morphine 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:04.080 When it was used to control pain that histamine brought on 00:39:04.080 --> 00:39:08.280 all of these other stress hormone changes 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.280 So he added an anti histamine an herbal 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.880 drug called scopolamine 00:39:16.600 --> 00:39:20.280 Basically an anti histamine anti stress 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:24.800 preparation to go with the anesthesia and 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.480 Then he used a local anesthetic 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.800 To stop 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.120 First he would anesthetize the skin then 00:39:35.120 --> 00:39:38.960 As the skin was cut each layer would get a local anesthetic 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.320 So that he was not letting the brain 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:47.440 receive any of those harmful signals but 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.560 careless quick 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:57.040 Surgery nowadays often is very rough and the patient wakes up with 00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:04.920 Changes in the brain from that powerful noxious stimulation of the surgery and 00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:09.440 So if you can get the doctor to 00:40:10.600 --> 00:40:13.200 Reduce the trauma of the surgery 00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:17.000 that's a very important part of recovering and 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.080 Like the hypothyroid person 00:40:21.080 --> 00:40:23.160 doesn't 00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:29.240 recover very well because their metabolic rate is slow their temperature is also very low and 00:40:29.240 --> 00:40:32.240 since the surgery 00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:37.640 Turning on the the stress hormones turns off the thyroid function 00:40:37.640 --> 00:40:40.480 temperature tends to drop 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.680 drastically during and following surgery and 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:48.160 in proportion to how the temperature falls the 00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:51.080 person's recovery is 00:40:51.080 --> 00:40:52.440 impaired 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:58.400 So everything that will keep your your temperature up during and after surgery 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.320 preparing with 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.720 At least two weeks of 00:41:03.720 --> 00:41:07.320 Adjusting thyroid so that you're not hypothyroid 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.080 That makes the recovery a lot faster 00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:16.080 The 00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:18.760 Study in Mississippi, I think it was 00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.600 Found that if the 00:41:22.600 --> 00:41:31.160 Emergency intensive care people would check the patient's vitamin D levels 00:41:31.160 --> 00:41:34.040 as they came in 00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:36.160 they found that out of 00:41:37.120 --> 00:41:42.240 178 cases only three people had normal vitamin D 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:47.120 Partly that means that 00:41:47.120 --> 00:41:52.720 deficient people get sick more often or that sickness lowers your vitamin D, but 00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:57.840 some of them had as low as eight or ten 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.280 nano 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.780 Nanograms per milliliter where it should be 50 or 55 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:06.840 that's the normal range and 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.920 the 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.080 when he got the dietician to 00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:17.080 check their vitamin D levels and supplement vitamin D the 00:42:17.080 --> 00:42:21.600 length of stay in intensive care was cut in half 00:42:21.600 --> 00:42:24.880 survival increased and 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.920 the expenses 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.720 that saved the hospital more than half of the 00:42:29.720 --> 00:42:33.760 Expenses just by that one vitamin. It's amazing 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.400 You mentioned a vitamin. It's amazing 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:42.840 You mentioned a herbal antihistamine earlier. What was that again? 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:48.480 That was scopolamine and that is sometimes available 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.560 If a person is nauseated after surgery 00:42:52.560 --> 00:42:55.320 That's a very safe 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.680 anti-nausea drug which 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:03.960 Does several things that helps to hold up the body temperature besides stopping the nausea? 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.080 And can it be used with anesthetics? 00:43:07.080 --> 00:43:11.680 Yeah, it was part of the 00:43:11.680 --> 00:43:15.320 anesthesia that was pioneered by 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.720 George Creil and it's still occasionally in use but since it's a 00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:23.880 generic herbal 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:25.320 chemical 00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.280 The drug companies aren't very keen on having it promoted 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:36.360 But it is available both as part of the anesthetic and part of the recovery program 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:43.640 And what can people do as far as specific diet for post-surgery recovery to? 00:43:43.640 --> 00:43:50.560 Help their brain and their body recover. Um the same foods that are generally good but 00:43:50.560 --> 00:43:52.840 emphasizing 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.440 The things that are lost specifically by high stress 00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.560 Which are protein, zinc 00:43:59.560 --> 00:44:05.600 Some of the B vitamins are turned over very fast in stress so 00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:08.160 foods like 00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:14.760 liver and oysters and eggs which are rich in the trace minerals and protein are 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.600 As long as you're getting 00:44:17.600 --> 00:44:19.200 adequate 00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:21.200 carbohydrate and 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:26.200 calcium these happen to be high phosphate foods along with the protein, but 00:44:26.200 --> 00:44:28.840 they have the 00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.360 highest concentration of the healing 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.440 minerals and vitamins 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:42.720 You're listening to WMNF Tampa 88.5 on your dial and we're speaking with dr. Ray Peat and 00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:48.000 We spoke a little bit earlier about cheeses, and I wanted to ask you a question 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.320 Relating to 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:57.640 Pasteurization you mentioned that there's beneficial nutrients does this get discounted once the 00:44:57.640 --> 00:45:01.440 milks or cheeses are pasteurized 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:07.840 No, it's such a tiny amount of a pasteurized it now in 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.200 I think it's something like three seconds 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:14.560 High temperature and then it drops immediately 00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:19.940 So there's very little oxidative damage done now by pasteurizing 00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:22.580 So it's a quick flash 00:45:22.580 --> 00:45:24.820 Pasteurization yeah 00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:27.500 beautiful 00:45:27.500 --> 00:45:34.740 It might lower the vitamin A content three or four percent something like that but 00:45:34.740 --> 00:45:41.180 Since it's such a good rich source of all these nutrients 00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:48.180 No one is going to suffer deficiency if they're eating pasteurized milk and cheese 00:45:48.180 --> 00:45:56.380 And what's your feeling about exercise during that recovery time for people that have gone through surgery? 00:45:56.380 --> 00:45:59.540 um - I think 00:45:59.540 --> 00:46:02.260 better just to 00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:04.780 regain 00:46:04.780 --> 00:46:06.700 Flexibility and 00:46:06.700 --> 00:46:12.260 mobility in a gentle way not to worry about muscle building exercise 00:46:13.220 --> 00:46:17.180 The time to think about that is before surgery because 00:46:17.180 --> 00:46:20.620 in one study of old people 00:46:20.620 --> 00:46:28.980 They found that the fatter they were the better their long-range survival was in the six months 00:46:28.980 --> 00:46:31.540 following a surgery 00:46:31.540 --> 00:46:34.780 The death rate was much higher in the lean 00:46:34.780 --> 00:46:37.540 low-body mass people and 00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:42.540 That survival went up directly in proportion to the body mass and 00:46:42.540 --> 00:46:46.820 The 00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:49.420 In aging or stress 00:46:49.420 --> 00:46:52.260 the 00:46:52.260 --> 00:46:54.260 muscles are 00:46:54.260 --> 00:47:00.740 Shrunken and it isn't just the fat that is a buffer against stress 00:47:00.740 --> 00:47:04.660 but it's mainly the mass of the muscles and 00:47:06.820 --> 00:47:10.420 Exercises such as deep knee bends 00:47:10.420 --> 00:47:14.420 Mild weight lifting with dumbbells 00:47:14.420 --> 00:47:18.180 Just a few minutes a day of 00:47:18.180 --> 00:47:20.260 mild 00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:23.820 resistance exercise of that sort can keep your muscles 00:47:23.820 --> 00:47:26.740 sound and 00:47:26.740 --> 00:47:28.740 relatively massive and 00:47:28.740 --> 00:47:31.020 muscles are 00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:34.660 Themselves a hormone source they can produce 00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:38.340 Testosterone 00:47:38.340 --> 00:47:40.340 instead of cortisol 00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:43.540 When you're doing these resistant exercises 00:47:43.540 --> 00:47:45.940 so they are 00:47:45.940 --> 00:47:53.380 The muscle building is protecting your heart and brain as well as building up the reserves of tissue 00:47:53.380 --> 00:47:57.140 That are part of your resistance against stress 00:47:57.140 --> 00:48:04.260 You mentioned that the cortisol damages the brain once the trauma has happened 00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:08.580 Is that reversible over time if someone is 00:48:08.580 --> 00:48:13.220 Following a protocol that would support their greater health 00:48:13.220 --> 00:48:18.980 Yeah, it's probably just the same as the following anorexia 00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:22.100 That they've seen that young women 00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:25.220 Can have a great and quick 00:48:25.220 --> 00:48:28.660 regrowth of the mass of the brain substance 00:48:28.660 --> 00:48:30.740 just by 00:48:30.740 --> 00:48:37.980 stopping the stress and starting to eat well, and I think that would happen with old people who are 00:48:37.980 --> 00:48:40.580 partially demanded by 00:48:40.580 --> 00:48:43.020 stress of 00:48:43.020 --> 00:48:45.260 very serious surgery 00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:48.300 and 00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:51.460 Lastly I wanted to chat a little bit about adrenals as 00:48:51.460 --> 00:48:59.420 Many many people these days seem to be suffering from low adrenals or adrenal fatigue 00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:02.420 I 00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:09.300 Mentioned that the muscles are an important source of steroid synthesis our biggest 00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:12.380 endocrine gland is our brain 00:49:12.380 --> 00:49:14.780 and 00:49:14.780 --> 00:49:16.780 the brain 00:49:16.780 --> 00:49:23.620 Stabilizes all of the organs and if if your brain is experiencing stress 00:49:23.620 --> 00:49:26.380 that 00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:28.020 shifts the 00:49:28.020 --> 00:49:30.020 the adrenal function to 00:49:30.020 --> 00:49:33.220 Cortisol rather than 00:49:33.220 --> 00:49:36.700 DHEA and progesterone and the androgens 00:49:36.700 --> 00:49:39.900 and 00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:41.900 The adrenals 00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:44.660 Shouldn't 00:49:44.660 --> 00:49:50.940 Produce simply the stress promoting hormones. They should be putting out some of the defensive 00:49:50.940 --> 00:49:55.620 Protective progesterone DHEA and pregnenolone as well 00:49:56.780 --> 00:49:59.220 But when your brain gives them 00:49:59.220 --> 00:50:03.180 these super stress signals then and 00:50:03.180 --> 00:50:06.100 they will 00:50:06.100 --> 00:50:08.140 over over 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:10.500 act and 00:50:10.500 --> 00:50:13.060 the 00:50:13.060 --> 00:50:16.260 Hansel you 00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:19.740 Defined the adrenal failure as when 00:50:20.420 --> 00:50:26.900 The adrenal gland begins bleeding and the cells die that make steroids 00:50:26.900 --> 00:50:30.900 but the adrenal cortex is 00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:36.980 extremely able to regenerate as fast as the thymus and 00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:45.620 Thyroid gland the cortex of the adrenal if you're well fed and if you stop the stress signals 00:50:45.620 --> 00:50:47.900 It can regenerate 00:50:47.900 --> 00:50:52.140 So what Hansel you was was talking about was 00:50:52.140 --> 00:50:59.380 an acute stress causes immediate bleeding of your stomach and intestines and 00:50:59.380 --> 00:51:06.460 That's because of the high cortisol production among other stress hormones and 00:51:06.460 --> 00:51:12.940 If you continue that too long without feeding some of the 00:51:12.940 --> 00:51:17.020 Curative 00:51:17.020 --> 00:51:18.300 nutrients 00:51:18.300 --> 00:51:20.020 sugars zinc 00:51:20.020 --> 00:51:22.340 magnesium calcium and so on vitamin D 00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:28.180 then the adrenal glands can't keep up the intense work and 00:51:28.180 --> 00:51:30.860 they start bleeding and 00:51:30.860 --> 00:51:33.220 tissue dies 00:51:33.220 --> 00:51:37.860 Too much estrogen is one of the things that can contribute to 00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:44.300 Overacting of the adrenal cortex in animal experience 00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:48.620 experiments we saw that just injecting a big dose of 00:51:48.620 --> 00:51:51.700 estrogen would cause adrenal 00:51:51.700 --> 00:51:59.140 Enlargement in a moderate case or bleeding and death in an extreme dose of estrogen 00:51:59.140 --> 00:52:03.420 Absolutely amazing 00:52:03.420 --> 00:52:07.100 How everything is so connected and 00:52:08.260 --> 00:52:15.500 Reactive of what we're doing both with our diet and our exercise and our lifestyle choices 00:52:15.500 --> 00:52:18.380 I should mention that cholesterol and 00:52:18.380 --> 00:52:21.860 thyroid and vitamin A are the 00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:29.580 important things for keeping the adrenal cortex from getting stressed to death because 00:52:29.580 --> 00:52:33.720 the cortisol of the cholesterol is the 00:52:34.820 --> 00:52:38.820 raw material for making cortisol and the other stress 00:52:38.820 --> 00:52:42.860 adaptive hormones and without enough 00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:46.020 cholesterol and 00:52:46.020 --> 00:52:48.020 thyroid and vitamin A 00:52:48.020 --> 00:52:54.900 These cells are simulated but can't can't work and so they they just give up and atrophy 00:52:54.900 --> 00:52:58.540 What sources of cholesterol would you recommend? 00:52:58.540 --> 00:53:01.060 I'm a good diet 00:53:02.220 --> 00:53:05.820 Plenty of fruit and milk in the diet will allow your 00:53:05.820 --> 00:53:07.980 tissues 00:53:07.980 --> 00:53:09.980 especially the liver and brain 00:53:09.980 --> 00:53:15.100 to make as much cortisol as much cholesterol as they need and 00:53:15.100 --> 00:53:19.180 Speaking of liver 00:53:19.180 --> 00:53:26.180 Would you recommend for people to eat liver if they do eat meat to eat liver or heart or kidneys? 00:53:26.180 --> 00:53:28.380 from grass-fed 00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:31.940 Beef for example, is that a helpful thing to? 00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:35.060 Yeah 00:53:35.060 --> 00:53:36.780 the liver 00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:39.660 except for the ratio of calcium to phosphate 00:53:39.660 --> 00:53:46.100 The liver has the highest concentration of the anti-stress 00:53:46.100 --> 00:53:48.180 nutrients and 00:53:48.180 --> 00:53:53.820 So at least twice a month there should be a good meal of liver for stress resistance 00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:56.060 Maybe once a week 00:53:56.060 --> 00:54:00.100 for four ounces a week is a safe and 00:54:00.100 --> 00:54:04.900 Effective amount good old liver and onions a 00:54:04.900 --> 00:54:14.620 Dr. Ray Peat, thank you so so much for joining us tonight on the ultrasound show 00:54:14.620 --> 00:54:17.660 it is always such a delight to have you on and 00:54:17.660 --> 00:54:21.380 we very very much appreciate your time and 00:54:22.260 --> 00:54:28.260 Fountain of information if people would like to get in touch with you and find out more about your own 00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:30.900 Services, where do they go? 00:54:30.900 --> 00:54:34.500 My website is RayPeat.com 00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:39.020 And you also have a YouTube page, correct? 00:54:39.020 --> 00:54:42.180 I don't know 00:54:42.180 --> 00:54:49.780 You are up on YouTube and people can listen to some of your interviews and 00:54:50.860 --> 00:54:52.860 I have on my website 00:54:52.860 --> 00:54:57.780 Radiantsoul.com one of our past interviews where we spoke about 00:54:57.780 --> 00:55:03.900 Good fats and coconut oil and that was very informative and we had many many people 00:55:03.900 --> 00:55:09.420 Commenting and writing back about that. So thank you so so much. Okay. Thank you 00:55:09.420 --> 00:55:13.260 Many many blessings much love sweetheart. Thank you 00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:18.060 And we've been speaking with dr. Ray Peat and 00:55:19.580 --> 00:55:21.420 If you 00:55:21.420 --> 00:55:27.740 Just tuned in halfway through you can always listen to this show again for the next 00:55:27.740 --> 00:55:32.140 Six or seven days until it gets replaced and you can go to