WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.800 You know that feeling you get when you find a really great deal on something? 00:00:03.800 --> 00:00:05.800 It's like, wow, today's my day! 00:00:05.800 --> 00:00:10.600 Well, you can get that great deal feeling over and over again at the Safeway Stock Up Sale. 00:00:10.600 --> 00:00:14.400 Enjoy aisle after aisle of big savings on everything you need. 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:19.400 Use your club card to get fresh USDA Choice Beef Boneless Chuck Roast for only $3.99 a pound. 00:00:19.400 --> 00:00:22.600 Selected varieties of General Mills cereals are just $1.49 each. 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.200 And find coupons throughout the store for amazing deals on stock up favorites. 00:00:26.200 --> 00:00:28.600 You're going to love the Safeway Stock Up Sale. 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:29.800 It's just better. 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.600 Love Talk Radio 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:44.600 You're listening to Holistic Living, brought to you by EastWest Healing and Performance. 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.600 And now, here are your hosts, Josh and Jeanne Rubin. 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:59.600 Alright, everyone. Welcome to today's show with Ray T. Ph.D. 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.200 And we'll get Emma on here in just a little bit. 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:05.800 I want to thank everyone once again to tune in to our show every month. 00:01:05.800 --> 00:01:10.600 Last show's, uh, last month's show with Lita Lee was great. 00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:15.400 So, if you, uh, don't, didn't have a chance to look at that, go to our blog talk radio show and check that out. 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:20.600 Most of the links that I talk about, you can actually go to our website at eastwesthealing.com. 00:01:20.600 --> 00:01:26.400 And in the upper right-hand corner, you'll see a little YouTube, Facebook, blog talk radio show, all those things. 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.000 You can click on them and directly go to those pages. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.200 So, don't forget to check those out because we have a lot of free information there for everyone. 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.400 Of course, I want to talk a little bit about business before I introduce Ray. 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.400 Uh, check our website at eastwesthealing.com if you want to learn more about what we do. 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.400 We actually work with clients all over the globe. 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.400 So, feel free to give us a call and fill out that form. 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:50.000 As well, if you want to check out our website, you'll see there's an on-demand tab. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:52.600 You can click on the on-demand tab and you'll see the Metabolic Blueprint. 00:01:52.600 --> 00:02:02.200 Check out our Metabolic Blueprint program that we're launching January 5th in regards to nutrition and healing based off a lot of different philosophies from Ray Peat, Voter Bonds, etc. 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:11.800 If you can't find the link, feel free to email us at info@eastwesthealing.com and we'll send you the link so you can check it out, learn more about it or sign up. 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:15.200 Today, we're doing a question and answer show with Ray Peat once again. 00:02:15.200 --> 00:02:18.000 I know a lot of people have been really waiting for the show. 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:25.800 If you want to learn more about Ray, his website is raypeat.com. 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.800 He's got tons of articles on his site that will probably keep you busy for the next 50 years. 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.800 He's got books that you can actually order. 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.200 You can send in your money in order form and they'll mail them to you. 00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:41.800 And he's got a newsletter as well on his site that's, I think, well worth the money. 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:48.800 It's very inexpensive of the year and they get mailed directly to your house and they're unbelievable, just packed with information. 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:53.800 Ray has his PhD in biology from the University of Oregon with a specialization in physiology. 00:02:53.800 --> 00:03:08.800 He's taught at many schools including the University of Oregon, Urbana College, Montana State University, National College of Naturopathic Medicine, and a couple of the schools that I can't pronounce in Blake College. 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.800 So if you want to see those other schools, you can check out his website at raypeat.com. 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:16.800 He started his work with progesterone-related hormones in 1968. 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:24.800 He did a paper on physiology, chemistry, and physics in 1971 and '72 and his dissertation at the University of Oregon in 1972, 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:36.800 outlining his ideas regarding progesterone and the hormones closely related to it as protectors of the body's structure and energy against harmful effects of estrogen, radiation stress, and lack of oxygen. 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.800 So if you want to learn more about Ray, check out his website like I keep saying. 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.800 It's just filled with information. You can learn more about him. 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:52.800 And like I said before we get him on, like I've said a million times, I know from doing the show and our Facebook page and everything, a lot of people have been emailing Ray. 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.800 And he's definitely probably one of the nicest guys and will just keep answering questions. 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:03.800 It is the holiday season and I'm not saying Ray has asked me to say this because this is 100% on me, but I've said this from day one. 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:09.800 Whether it's a dollar, five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you feel you can send to say thank you for what he's done for answering the emails, 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:15.800 that for us would be greatly appreciated because he's donated his time to do this and really help us out. 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.800 So you can just send the money or whatever you want to send to his house. 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:24.800 It could be a gift, it could be whatever just to say thanks for all the help that he's done for us. 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:32.800 So let's get Ray on. And I know a lot of people listening in, you're welcome to call in today at 347-426-3546. 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:38.800 I have tons of questions here on email from callers that have questions about Ray's philosophies, etc. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:44.800 But don't be afraid to call in and just realize if you're on hold, be patient and I'll get to you. 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.800 Ray, you on the other line there? 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:47.800 Yes. 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.800 All righty. Is there anything else you want to add before we kind of get going? 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:53.800 No, that covered everything. 00:04:53.800 --> 00:05:00.800 All right. So I got a lot of questions here and I don't think we'll have time to answer every single one of them 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.800 because I have probably 50 plus questions. 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.800 But I have been getting a lot of questions from people regarding iron. 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:15.800 And a lot of people want just kind of a summary, if you can, on your thoughts about iron, 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:20.800 because you believe it's a heavy metal and it's toxic and it has all these effects on the body. 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:26.800 So if you could clarify just a little bit for people on your thoughts on the dangers of iron. 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:38.800 Wherever iron gets loose, it is available to react with things like polyunsaturated fats, 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.800 but also protein and nucleic acids and such. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:53.800 But the reactive form of iron is the reduced ferrous form rather than the fully oxidized ferric. 00:05:53.800 --> 00:06:05.800 And that means that if you don't get enough oxygen to your tissues, the iron tends to get reduced by glutathione. 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:18.800 And people talk about oxidative stress, but reductive stress is really what you have to worry about in relation to iron. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:32.800 Alcohol, for example, interferes with the use of oxygen and causes the reduced glutathione to accumulate, 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.800 to shift the ratio towards reduction. 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:47.800 And that activates iron, reduces it to the reactive ferrous form, and then that causes the damage. 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:59.800 And iron accumulates faster than it should under the influence of estrogen, among other things. 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:09.800 But inability to use oxygen properly intensifies the absorption of iron. 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:22.800 And that seems to be what estrogen is for, to create the illusion of an oxygen deprivation so that you absorb more iron. 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:33.800 A woman, they've tested the absorption percentage of a dose of iron in women versus men. 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:39.800 And women absorbed nine times as much iron as men did. 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.800 That's primarily the influence of estrogen. 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:54.800 And the action of estrogen is to create the need for more iron to carry oxygen in the blood. 00:07:54.800 --> 00:08:12.800 But unfortunately, besides making the body absorb it, it also tends to create the conditions that make iron toxic and puts it into the reduced reactive form. 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:25.800 And one of the main things that activated iron attacks and tends to start chain reactions in is the polyunsaturated fatty acid. 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:31.800 And that, too, strongly interacts with estrogen. 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:47.800 If you eat polyunsaturated fats to excess, they will activate the estrogen circulating in your blood, and they will also turn on the enzymes that produce estrogen. 00:08:47.800 --> 00:09:04.800 And then estrogen, in turn, activates enzymes that desaturate and elongate the existing fatty acids, turning, for example, linoleic acid into arachidonic acid, 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:20.800 which, again, creates a vicious circle in which the estrogen increases the most reactive PUFA, which activate and increase the quantity of estrogen. 00:09:20.800 --> 00:09:28.800 And both of those contribute to the activation and intensification of iron toxicity. 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:41.800 So you can break the cycle in different ways, donating blood to get rid of iron or doing things to interrupt the estrogen fatty acid cycle. 00:09:41.800 --> 00:09:58.800 Now, with that same question, the person was asking, if you have, based on your lab, well, first off, what would be a normal lab value of iron that you'd want to see? 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:04.800 But what if you have low hemoglobin, is it still safe to actually donate blood, or are there alternatives? 00:10:04.800 --> 00:10:08.800 Would you recommend, like, sipping coffee after a meal or, you know, etc.? 00:10:08.800 --> 00:10:22.800 There's no blood test that I know of that will really say anything meaningful about your status of iron, because the iron tends to hide in your liver and bone marrow. 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:34.800 And the blood tests that people often go by can go in either direction without any relation to the iron stores. 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:52.800 And the fact that when you give someone an iron supplement, it increases their red blood cell count or their hemoglobin doesn't mean they were deficient in iron, because they used to treat anemia with doses of arsenic. 00:10:52.800 --> 00:11:00.800 The arsenic creates the stress that tells your body you need more iron and more blood. 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:09.800 And so any stress that interferes with oxygen use will make you drive up the blood production system. 00:11:09.800 --> 00:11:16.800 Right. And would you say, well, hemoglobin, would that be due to estrogen? 00:11:16.800 --> 00:11:41.800 Yeah, all animals that have estrogen, the female tends to look slightly anemic, because it does something to slow the production of red blood cells, partly lowering the body temperature is one of the actions of estrogen and slowing down thyroid function. 00:11:41.800 --> 00:11:51.800 So probably the most common cause of apparent anemia, as Rhoda Barnes pointed out, is hypothyroidism. 00:11:51.800 --> 00:12:16.800 And I think he was the one that mentioned the experiment in which rats whose tailbones normally don't make red blood cells. In this experiment, they folded the tail back and made a hole in the skin of the abdomen and stitched the tail so it was kept in at core body temperature. 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:23.800 And it quickly began producing red blood cells, just raising the temperature. 00:12:23.800 --> 00:12:35.800 And so the first, safest way to treat anemia might be to wear long wool socks to warm the extremities. 00:12:35.800 --> 00:12:46.800 Right. Now what is copper's role in regards to iron? I mean, I know copper is important for iron uptake and utilization. 00:12:46.800 --> 00:13:05.800 Its primary role is in the respiratory enzyme, cytochrome oxidase. That, I think, is probably the reason that copper is essential for constructing the hemoglobin molecule. 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:18.800 Right. So what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, that you feel that most people, because we actually can't get rid of it unless you, you know, profusely bleed, actually have higher amounts of iron in our liver and our bone marrow. 00:13:18.800 --> 00:13:24.800 We store it, which in a sense is toxic, and of course along with estrogen makes it more toxic. 00:13:24.800 --> 00:13:36.800 So the only, you feel that most people are actually in an iron overload state and they might be showing up low in a lab because they have maybe absorptive issues in their hypothyroidism. 00:13:36.800 --> 00:13:44.800 Yeah. In men, it has a direct tendency to accumulate continuously with aging. 00:13:44.800 --> 00:13:57.800 Menstruation probably helps women avoid the accumulation until they stop menstruating and then the curve is maybe even steeper than men's. 00:13:57.800 --> 00:14:16.800 It builds up by the age of 60 or 70 to pretty much rival men's, but I think the menstruation probably is one of the factors that makes women have a greater longevity. 00:14:16.800 --> 00:14:18.800 Right, right. 00:14:18.800 --> 00:14:29.800 There was a study of immigrant fruit pickers, kids in California who didn't get a good diet, but they ate lots of oranges. 00:14:29.800 --> 00:14:48.800 And they had on average, I think, a hemoglobin of 10 versus I think below 12 is considered tending towards anemia. 00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:55.800 But they found that these kids didn't get infectious diseases like the well-fed city kids who had lots of hemoglobin. 00:14:55.800 --> 00:15:16.800 They've seen that same thing in Africa that when they would have campaigns to give iron supplements, lots of people would come down with malaria because iron activates the growth of germs and weakens our immune system. 00:15:16.800 --> 00:15:25.800 So one of the tests that's meaningful in the blood but that's seldom done is the iron saturation. 00:15:25.800 --> 00:15:35.800 And people tend to be resistant to cancer development if the saturation is somewhat low, like 25%. 00:15:35.800 --> 00:15:37.800 Right, right. 00:15:37.800 --> 00:15:43.800 Okay, Stephanie, we've got a couple of callers. I mean, I have tons of questions. Would you like to just keep going or do you mind taking a caller? 00:15:43.800 --> 00:15:44.800 Anytime. 00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:49.800 Okay. Mr. Chris Dillon from the 908, is that you? 00:15:49.800 --> 00:15:52.800 That's me. How are you doing, Josh? Dr. Peat? 00:15:52.800 --> 00:15:54.800 How's it going? 00:15:54.800 --> 00:15:55.800 Good, brother. How are you doing? 00:15:55.800 --> 00:15:56.800 Good. 00:15:56.800 --> 00:15:57.800 All right. 00:15:57.800 --> 00:15:58.800 Shoot. 00:15:58.800 --> 00:16:09.800 All right. I have actually two separate questions. Dr. Peat, regarding ADD/ADHD and as we've been seeing a rise of these diagnoses in the last couple of decades, 00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:16.800 do you feel that it's really sugar the problem or poly could be more of the polyunsaturated fats? 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:33.800 I think it's the unsaturated fats. The sugar tends to move everything in the right direction away from brain malfunction. 00:16:33.800 --> 00:16:46.800 The polyunsaturated fats interfere with the tension and increase adrenaline and the sympathetic nervous system and the stress hormones. 00:16:46.800 --> 00:17:00.800 And I think that's probably the main thing, as well as hypothyroidism that keeps the front part of the brain from getting enough energy to focus. 00:17:00.800 --> 00:17:16.800 It's funny because you hear people saying sugar is the problem and yet you hear more people saying, let's take omega-3 fatty acids to help with brain development and yet we're seeing an increase in this ADD/ADHD behavior. 00:17:16.800 --> 00:17:18.800 So, thank you for answering that. 00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:21.800 My second question is regarding Hashimoto disease. 00:17:21.800 --> 00:17:29.800 Can you explain the proper way for it to be diagnosed because again, I'm getting a lot of people claiming that doctors say they have Hashimoto, 00:17:29.800 --> 00:17:39.800 but I realize that sometimes the antithyroid antibodies that are found in the blood really don't have any relation to the thyroid gland. I wonder if that's true. 00:17:39.800 --> 00:17:47.800 Those antibodies interact with cartilage of the joints just about as well as with the cartilage. 00:17:47.800 --> 00:17:55.800 So, it's really a connective tissue inflammatory disease which goes with hypothyroidism. 00:17:55.800 --> 00:18:04.800 The cartilage is one of the first places that you see hypothyroidism in children. 00:18:04.800 --> 00:18:22.800 It accounts for why hypothyroid kids tend to be a knock-kneed and why girls aren't good pitchers often because the cartilage in the knees and the elbows is basically swollen. 00:18:22.800 --> 00:18:27.800 So, I've said basically a lot of people walk around being misdiagnosed for this, right? 00:18:27.800 --> 00:18:30.800 Yeah. 00:18:30.800 --> 00:18:32.800 Yeah. Okay, great. 00:18:32.800 --> 00:18:34.800 All right. Thank you so much for your time, Dr. Peat. 00:18:34.800 --> 00:18:36.800 Josh, I'll give you a call later. Thank you. 00:18:36.800 --> 00:18:38.800 Thanks. Have a good one. 00:18:38.800 --> 00:18:41.800 All right, brother. 00:18:41.800 --> 00:18:47.800 Good questions. I was actually thinking I was reading one of your old articles on Hashimoto's and thyroiditis, 00:18:47.800 --> 00:18:54.800 and I found it pretty interesting because you talk about how estrogen is affecting, and correct me if I'm wrong, the colloid, 00:18:54.800 --> 00:19:00.800 and actually stimulates it but inhibits the exact proteolytic cells to break it down. 00:19:00.800 --> 00:19:07.800 And that's why a lot of people are getting diagnosed with Hashimoto's because it's not so much the thyroid itself, 00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:11.800 it's the altered production of the antibodies because of estrogen. 00:19:11.800 --> 00:19:20.800 Yeah, the whole idea of autoimmune disease is, I think, off the mark. 00:19:20.800 --> 00:19:30.800 The immune system, I think of as a clean-up the mess system. 00:19:30.800 --> 00:19:41.800 The antibodies help the phagocytes remove debris, and if the debris is caused by an infection, they'll get the germs too. 00:19:41.800 --> 00:19:51.800 But if the debris is caused by low thyroid causing the connective tissue to swell, the immune system has to come in 00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:57.800 and try to help clean out the junk that builds up because of low thyroid. 00:19:57.800 --> 00:20:00.800 Right, right. All good stuff. 00:20:00.800 --> 00:20:04.800 Now, we've got another call. Do you want to answer some questions or take another caller? 00:20:04.800 --> 00:20:05.800 Anything. 00:20:05.800 --> 00:20:08.800 Okay. 00:20:08.800 --> 00:20:13.800 Caller from the 678, you're on the air. 00:20:13.800 --> 00:20:14.800 One more time. 00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:20.800 Caller from the 678, you're on the air. 00:20:20.800 --> 00:20:21.800 Hi. You there? 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:24.800 Hello. Yeah, we're here. 00:20:24.800 --> 00:20:25.800 All right. Yeah. 00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:27.800 First of all, I just want to thank you guys for doing this. 00:20:27.800 --> 00:20:29.800 It's a great resource. 00:20:29.800 --> 00:20:30.800 I have two questions. 00:20:30.800 --> 00:20:37.800 One is practical and simple, and that's simply how long would you say it would take someone whose body temperature has 00:20:37.800 --> 00:20:46.800 historically been in the low to mid-97s for that to stabilize if that person doesn't have very much stored fat 00:20:46.800 --> 00:20:51.800 and kind of institute some of your recommendations, right? 00:20:51.800 --> 00:20:59.800 I've seen a couple of people do it in three or four days, very skinny little people. 00:20:59.800 --> 00:21:05.800 Just who had been on a pure soy tofu diet or something. 00:21:05.800 --> 00:21:12.800 As soon as they started eating eggs and oranges, they just popped up out of their -- 00:21:12.800 --> 00:21:21.800 a couple of people who had been diagnosed as having broken pituitary glands with no function at all, 00:21:21.800 --> 00:21:28.800 all of their pituitary hormones would pop back as soon as they started eating rationally. 00:21:28.800 --> 00:21:30.800 All right. Well, that's encouraging. 00:21:30.800 --> 00:21:36.800 My second question is more general and comes from having exhausted your articles on the website 00:21:36.800 --> 00:21:40.800 and then figuring I might as well look into some of the people you talk about. 00:21:40.800 --> 00:21:49.800 I read some of Selye's work, and it seems like he believes that we have an absolute reserve of energy to deal with stress 00:21:49.800 --> 00:21:55.800 and that any stressful event can kind of deplete this and that people start out with different levels. 00:21:55.800 --> 00:22:00.800 I was wondering if, first of all, that's correct, and then second of all, what you think of that. 00:22:00.800 --> 00:22:13.800 No, I think where he left it is where the issue of cumulative buildup of iron and PUFA comes in. 00:22:13.800 --> 00:22:24.800 Both the long chain polyunsaturated fats and iron accumulate with aging and with stress 00:22:24.800 --> 00:22:28.800 under the influence of estrogen. 00:22:28.800 --> 00:22:40.800 So he just wasn't looking far enough and long enough to see how those factors interacted with stress. 00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:53.800 The stress, while he was looking at the adrenal glands and first their adaptive phase and then their exhaustion phase, 00:22:53.800 --> 00:23:03.800 what happens is during prolonged adaptation, estrogen and other hormones, growth hormone 00:23:03.800 --> 00:23:17.800 and the inflammatory mediators accumulate and estrogen buildup from blocking the actions of the thyroid function, 00:23:17.800 --> 00:23:24.800 the buildup of estrogen begins to directly drive the adrenal gland. 00:23:24.800 --> 00:23:32.800 When that reaches a certain point, you can actually get bleeding in the adrenal gland 00:23:32.800 --> 00:23:41.800 and death of the cortical cells in the adrenal under the influence of just an excess of estrogen. 00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:50.800 You get the same sort of overdriving from the direct hormonal action of the adrenal glands 00:23:50.800 --> 00:23:57.800 from buildup of iron or serotonin or polyunsaturated fats. 00:23:57.800 --> 00:24:09.800 So the systemic effect of stress, I think, is what he neglected to think about 00:24:09.800 --> 00:24:16.800 when he talked about the reserve innate amount of energy that we had. 00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:19.800 All right. Well, thank you very much. 00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:25.800 Thanks for calling in. 00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:29.800 Now, I'm not sure. I actually have a question when you're talking about disease 00:24:29.800 --> 00:24:32.800 and I'm not sure if it's too vague or actually too big of a question. 00:24:32.800 --> 00:24:39.800 In one of your old newsletters from 2006, autoimmunity, you talked about, you were talking about Meshnikoff 00:24:39.800 --> 00:24:44.800 and you talked about how you, I'm not sure if you're talking about you or him, 00:24:44.800 --> 00:24:51.800 argued that inflammation was a pathological reaction rather than being a healthy part of a defensive immune system. 00:24:51.800 --> 00:24:53.800 So, you said... 00:24:53.800 --> 00:24:55.800 That's mostly me. 00:24:55.800 --> 00:25:00.800 Okay. So you feel that inflammation is actually more of a pathological response 00:25:00.800 --> 00:25:07.800 where most people say inflammation is actually the body's response to helping us get back to homeostasis. 00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:15.800 For Meshnikoff, he saw the white blood cells going in and curing the problem, clearing up the mess. 00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:16.800 Right. 00:25:16.800 --> 00:25:28.800 But because of the interpretation, he was an embryologist who saw the development 00:25:28.800 --> 00:25:33.800 through evolution of the meaning of the immune system. 00:25:33.800 --> 00:25:44.800 But after the medical establishment took it over, they created the idea of inflammation being the curative process. 00:25:44.800 --> 00:25:55.800 But the swelling, the redness, the pain that are the medical view of inflammation, 00:25:55.800 --> 00:25:58.800 these, I think, are pathological. 00:25:58.800 --> 00:26:05.800 The immune system should work like in the prenatal state. 00:26:05.800 --> 00:26:14.800 This is analogous to what Meshnikoff was looking at in his solanderates and developing embryos and so on. 00:26:14.800 --> 00:26:22.800 In the embryonic and fetal state, injury is corrected without inflammation. 00:26:22.800 --> 00:26:29.800 The cells just repair the damage in an efficient way and don't leave a scar. 00:26:29.800 --> 00:26:39.800 When you keep the carbon dioxide and sugar where they should be, 00:26:39.800 --> 00:26:46.800 you basically get fetal or embryonic healing without a scar and without inflammation. 00:26:46.800 --> 00:27:01.800 So I see it as an inability to deliver what's needed to repair the damage that we see as redness, pain, and inflammation. 00:27:01.800 --> 00:27:07.800 That makes sense to me. That's a pretty interesting thought there. I like it. 00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:11.800 Now I have a lot of questions on weight loss. 00:27:11.800 --> 00:27:16.800 Now I know this for every individual is, there's just so many variables 00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:20.800 because we don't know people read your articles and they go crazy with dairy. 00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:22.800 They think that everyone should be pumping sugar in their body. 00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:25.800 So there's a lot of different variables going in here. 00:27:25.800 --> 00:27:29.800 But I have a lot of questions about people beginning to follow a lot of your philosophies 00:27:29.800 --> 00:27:32.800 based off their perception of what they read. 00:27:32.800 --> 00:27:38.800 And they've noticed that, you know, their energy goes up and so forth, but they actually gain weight. 00:27:38.800 --> 00:27:43.800 Can you maybe elaborate on maybe some of the scenarios that can actually create this 00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:47.800 and maybe what they can do to actually halt this? 00:27:47.800 --> 00:27:57.800 Well, gaining weight probably isn't the issue. It's gaining inches and bulging. 00:27:57.800 --> 00:28:03.800 When you're doing everything just right, very likely you'll rebuild muscles 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:07.800 that were damaged by stress and poor nutrition. 00:28:07.800 --> 00:28:16.800 And as those muscles quickly grow, you should be doing things like feeling your calf muscle, 00:28:16.800 --> 00:28:22.800 seeing how big it is. You can even use calipers on the contracted muscle 00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:25.800 and see it grow as you're eating right. 00:28:25.800 --> 00:28:33.800 But the circumference of your thighs, hips, and belly should be decreasing 00:28:33.800 --> 00:28:36.800 even though your weight is increasing. 00:28:36.800 --> 00:28:44.800 When I experimented first with DHEA, I wasn't expecting anything. 00:28:44.800 --> 00:28:49.800 I was just wondering what it felt like to take a few milligrams of it. 00:28:49.800 --> 00:28:56.800 And I noticed after a week or two in the mirror that my waist seemed to be reappearing 00:28:56.800 --> 00:29:04.800 after having been just sort of a straight-sided appearance for previous years. 00:29:04.800 --> 00:29:09.800 And it made me wonder. My pants were getting looser, 00:29:09.800 --> 00:29:11.800 and so I thought I must be losing weight. 00:29:11.800 --> 00:29:19.800 So I checked, but I was exactly the same weight having shrunk around the waist. 00:29:19.800 --> 00:29:25.800 And what happened was that I was simply growing more lean tissue 00:29:25.800 --> 00:29:36.800 and burning up some of the fat so that I had more muscles, but was smaller around the waist. 00:29:36.800 --> 00:29:39.800 So initially a lot of people, well, of course, people have to work on 00:29:39.800 --> 00:29:41.800 what they're eating, their ratios and calories. 00:29:41.800 --> 00:29:46.800 But for a lot of people, and people hate hearing this, but it's actually a sign 00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:51.800 that your body is actually moving in the right direction and it's actually healing 00:29:51.800 --> 00:29:53.800 because you're rebuilding. 00:29:53.800 --> 00:29:58.800 Yes, but if someone is putting down fat rather than muscle, 00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:03.800 their pants are getting too tight, they're just eating probably too much fat 00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:06.800 or total calories. 00:30:06.800 --> 00:30:11.800 Yes, and that's a whole other issue in itself. 00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:18.800 I have mentioned that at times I have averaged over the years probably a gallon of milk a day, 00:30:18.800 --> 00:30:28.800 but that's always been 1% milk because even at two quarts of milk a person doesn't want to have 00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:34.800 whole milk at 3% or 4% fat. 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:38.800 What's interesting is when you say those things, I don't think you realize the repercussion. 00:30:38.800 --> 00:30:42.800 You have all these people walking around trying to drink gallons of milk, 00:30:42.800 --> 00:30:48.800 but they're drinking whole milk and they're like, "Why am I gaining so much weight?" 00:30:48.800 --> 00:30:50.800 But that's good stuff. 00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:53.800 Another question here, and I kind of have a feeling what you're going to say, 00:30:53.800 --> 00:30:58.800 but what are your feelings, or maybe talk about aromatase inhibitors. 00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:00.800 What are your feelings of aromatase inhibitors? 00:31:00.800 --> 00:31:04.800 Because there's a lot of people out there that say take calcium D-glucrate or take DIMM 00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:09.800 or whatever, which we know in a sense is actually from cruciferous vegetables, 00:31:09.800 --> 00:31:12.800 so that can actually be more toxic to the liver. 00:31:12.800 --> 00:31:23.800 Basically, they're usually selling just powdered cabbage leaves and naming it for that, 00:31:23.800 --> 00:31:29.800 but that has been tested and found somewhat estrogenic in itself. 00:31:29.800 --> 00:31:36.800 It changes the metabolism of estrogen, but it has an estrogenic effect directly. 00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:48.800 The saturated fats, what I was just talking about, the estrogen aromatase activating effect of PUFA, 00:31:48.800 --> 00:31:53.800 that's antagonized when you shift the balance to saturated fats. 00:31:53.800 --> 00:32:04.800 And aspirin, by blocking the formation of prostaglandins and reducing inflammation, 00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:12.800 and interrupting the effect of the PUFA, aspirin is a very effective aromatase inhibitor. 00:32:12.800 --> 00:32:19.800 But the drug companies don't want people to know that because they charge tens of dollars 00:32:19.800 --> 00:32:28.800 for a pill of their stuff where aspirin costs a penny. 00:32:28.800 --> 00:32:34.800 But at the same time, if people just eat a diet that's lower void of unsaturated fats, 00:32:34.800 --> 00:32:39.800 a diet of saturated fats, eat the right types of carbohydrates and the right amount of protein in itself, 00:32:39.800 --> 00:32:45.800 wouldn't that diet through regulating cellular metabolism actually inhibit aromatase enzymes 00:32:45.800 --> 00:32:48.800 or downregulate estrogen itself? 00:32:48.800 --> 00:32:53.800 Yeah. Thyroid inhibits aromatase. 00:32:53.800 --> 00:33:00.800 The only thing that lowers cortisol inhibits it because cortisol is a major activator. 00:33:00.800 --> 00:33:05.800 Right. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there taking those supplements 00:33:05.800 --> 00:33:10.800 and promoting them, and it's pretty interesting because they'd actually be more toxic on the liver. 00:33:10.800 --> 00:33:14.800 In talking about the liver, going back to the iron thing, 00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:19.800 so if people start to eat this way and really increase their saturated fats, 00:33:19.800 --> 00:33:23.800 let's say they're taking a thyroid glandular or whatever, is it dangerous? 00:33:23.800 --> 00:33:26.800 Because you're kind of indirectly detoxing the liver, correct? 00:33:26.800 --> 00:33:32.800 Is it dangerous because it's storing so much iron that it could actually, you know, 00:33:32.800 --> 00:33:35.800 the new principles, the new diet, whatever, actually backfire? 00:33:35.800 --> 00:33:42.800 No, no. The iron, if it's in the oxidized state, is just sitting there doing no harm. 00:33:42.800 --> 00:33:44.800 Okay. 00:33:44.800 --> 00:33:51.800 It forms like little granules and doesn't get out or go anywhere to do anything. 00:33:51.800 --> 00:33:53.800 Right, right. Good. 00:33:53.800 --> 00:33:57.800 Now, going back to the iron things, I know you talked about this in regards to iron, 00:33:57.800 --> 00:34:03.800 but some people want just a summary on coffee because there's so many people out there, 00:34:03.800 --> 00:34:08.800 and of course it comes down to how we use it and when it's being used, what is it being used with, 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.800 but everyone says, "Well, coffee causes adrenal fatigue," and so forth. 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.800 And you have you, which is probably a 180 of everyone out there, 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.800 saying that coffee has a lot of benefits because it's pro-thyroid, it's pro-progesterone, 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.800 it helps with iron absorption, et cetera. 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:29.800 Can you elaborate a little bit more on, you know, why and maybe how to use it? 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:38.800 Yeah. Do you have any idea of who started the idea of adrenal fatigue? 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.800 I've been trying to find out who is responsible for that word. 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.800 I think it was a little boy in a sandbox. I don't know. 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:56.800 But the coffee contains a lot of good things besides the caffeine. 00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.800 It's an extremely concentrated source of magnesium and a very good source of niacin 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:11.800 and some of the other B vitamins, but the caffeine has an antioxidant effect. 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:22.800 As long as you use it with food, it tends to stabilize your blood sugar and reduce inflammation. 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:30.800 Probably its anti-inflammatory effect is the most important thing. 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.800 Now, in regards to how to use it, because there's a lot of people, of course, in America 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.800 that just chug coffee all day, you know, they go to Starbucks, et cetera. 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.800 And, you know, going back to the adrenal fatigue thing, 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.800 and I'm not saying I'm not here to prove anyone wrong because I'm just some, you know, 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:49.800 little guy in California, but I feel that people took Hanfelia's work 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.800 and that general adaptation syndrome, those three phases, 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.800 and they ran with it and came up with adrenal fatigue, in my opinion, 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.800 because the last stage is exhaustion. So I don't know where it came from. 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:06.800 Exhaustion is where the adrenal gland dies. 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.800 Right. Yeah. Yeah. 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.800 You don't want to get to exhaustion. 00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:12.800 Right. 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.800 But the idea of fatigue seems to be something else. 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:16.800 Right. 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:24.800 And if you have enough cholesterol and are eating a good diet with vitamin A 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:33.800 and your thyroid is okay, in proportion to the amount of cholesterol in your blood, 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:38.800 you will be able to produce pregnenolone and progesterone, 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:46.800 which the progesterone in itself has all of the functions of the adrenal hormones 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.800 for aldosterone and cortisol, for example. 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:55.800 So Hanfelia took out animals' adrenal glands. 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:56.800 Right. 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:02.800 And if they were pregnant, they didn't have any symptom at all until they gave birth, 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:09.800 and then they had the usual shock effects. 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:16.800 But that led them to give progesterone to animals that had their adrenal glands removed, 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.800 and they lived fully normal lifespans, not needing their adrenals at all, 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:26.800 because progesterone alone covers the spectrum. 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:33.800 And with adequate vitamin A and thyroid especially, 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:39.800 you will convert cholesterol into pregnenolone and progesterone, 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:46.800 and the adrenals are very good at repairing themselves. 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:56.800 In some types of experiments, people wanted to have the adrenal medulla removed 00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.800 but have the adrenal gland be able to produce the steroids. 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:07.800 And they would open the capsule and simply scoop out all of the contents 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.800 and then sew the animal back up. 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:19.800 And within a couple of weeks, the adrenal gland had no medulla or nervous parts left, 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:27.800 but a whole adrenal cortex was regenerated just from the cells of the capsule. 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.800 Right. 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:35.800 So, like I said before, the repercussions, like aspirin, everyone listening, 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.800 don't go out and start popping aspirin. 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.800 Same thing with coffee. It's all about how you use it. 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.800 Now, you talk about when you use it or how you use it is very important, correct? 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.800 Because you, and correct me if I'm wrong, 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.800 sipping it after a meal would be more beneficial with some cream and sweetener 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.800 because it can help with iron absorption after the meal, etc., 00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.800 rather than just drinking it on an empty stomach. 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:07.800 Yes, taking it with or after the meal has basically none of the harmful effects. 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.800 I've known several people who said that just a sip of coffee 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.800 would make them feel shattered and shaky for the rest of the day. 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.800 But I told them to put some heavy cream in it and maybe some sugar 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.800 and take it with each meal, only with each meal. 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:26.800 Right. 00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:32.800 Within three or four days, these people were happy coffee drinkers. 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.800 Yes. 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.800 Most people that drink coffee are pretty happy. 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.800 I actually just got an email from a listener, 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.800 and I don't know if you've ever heard this, that said, 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:49.800 "Adrenal fatigue was coined by Dr. Lam or Dr. Wilson." 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:55.800 I don't know that, but I don't know if that rings a bell. 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.800 Another question is, what do you think about-- 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.800 there's a lot of people out there utilizing supplementation, enzymes, etc. 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.800 What are your thoughts on regulating metabolism, 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.800 using your nutritional philosophy, and utilizing those things? 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:12.800 Do you find them to be beneficial, 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:20.800 or do you feel that it can actually cause more of an increase of endotoxin, etc.? 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.800 It depends on where the supplements come from. 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.800 Okay. 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:35.800 People with very sensitive digestive systems have to be very careful of any supplement, 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:42.800 just because the factory it's made in might carelessly introduce things, 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:49.800 and there might be residue left from the microorganisms that were used in processing it. 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.800 So you have to be really cautious about allergies. 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.800 Right. 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.800 Another big question. 00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.800 There's so many people out there-- 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.800 and keep in mind when I bring up this stuff, 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.800 I'm not here to say anyone's wrong and right. 00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:05.800 I'm just here to bring questions up. 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.800 But there's people like Dr. McCuller, etc., 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.800 that are promoting that fructose is death, 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.800 that fructose causes diabetes, it causes everything. 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.800 And there's a lot of controversy out there, 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.800 and there's a lot of people that read your article and say, 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:22.800 "Well, you kind of promote it in the opposite way." 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.800 Can you give us-- 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.800 Just a few days ago I heard from someone in New Zealand 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:36.800 who said he had been diagnosed a few months ago with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.800 Right. 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.800 And he said he started-- 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.800 I didn't get the details of the whole diet, 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.800 but it included 300 grams of fructose every day. 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:55.800 And he now has a new diagnosis. 00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.800 His liver has no fat problem. 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.800 Huh. 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.800 So everyone out there is saying that fructose by itself causes fatty liver, 00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.800 causes high triglycerides, causes diabetes. 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.800 Do you feel that they're missing the boat 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.800 because it's the unsaturated fats? 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:18.800 Yeah. 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:26.800 My article newsletter on the sugar questions two months ago 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:35.800 goes through the history of how that fructose phobia evolved over the last 50 or 60 years. 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.800 And it's very closely connected to the cholesterol doctrine of heart disease 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.800 and the idea of essential fatty acids being essential. 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:52.800 And if essential, then beneficial, and if beneficial, not toxic. 00:42:52.800 --> 00:43:01.800 And meanwhile, the actual science was going on for basically 80 years 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:09.800 showing that the essential so-called fatty acids are toxic and carcinogenic. 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:19.800 Just straight-line research that was submerged by the oil industry 00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:27.800 perverting the medical establishment around the cholesterol doctrine of heart disease. 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.800 And Ray brought up his newsletter, guys. 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.800 He said if you want to get it, it's really cheap. 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.800 And I'm not here to sell them, but they're just an unbelievable pack of information. 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:40.800 And you can go to his website and his store and for 12 issues it's $28. 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.800 $38 out of the country, $48 elsewhere. 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.800 It's actually, you know, it's well worth the money. 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.800 So take a look at it. 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.800 Some other questions for callers. 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:52.800 This is kind of an interesting question. 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.800 I'll kind of read it to you. 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.800 Because you mentioned that pigs are fed on soybeans or other sources of poof. 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.800 Their fat tends to become more unsaturated and therefore unhealthy. 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:04.800 Barry Grove says the same thing. 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.800 However, if their fat was truly unsaturated, how come it's still solid at room temperature? 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.800 Which fat is that? 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.800 The unsaturated. 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.800 I don't know which one would be solid at room temperature. 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:20.800 What kind is that? 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:25.800 I think they're talking about--I think they're saying, you know, you feed a pig, poof is a soy. 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:31.800 That unsaturated fat technically is liquid at room temperature. 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.800 And they're saying, well, if you take out a piece of bacon, they're associating the fat. 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:36.800 It's actually solid. 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:37.800 It's not liquid. 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.800 Oh, well, it isn't. 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:49.800 If you extract the fat, when I was a kid, I would get blocks of lard for my grandmother. 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:54.800 And they were definitely solid at room temperature, just like butter. 00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:06.800 But the lard that I've seen in recent years, which is now slightly over 30% poof, it's soft at room temperature. 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:16.800 And the fat droplets in bacon naturally are enclosed in cells and connected by connective tissue. 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:26.800 So even if it was 100% poof, it would still have a white, firm appearance. 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.800 Right, right. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:37.800 Now, I know you've answered this question before in other shows, but it's on here, and I think a lot of people still have this question because it comes up a lot. 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.800 There's so many people out there on like a Sino-Mal or et cetera, T3 medication, 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:46.800 and there's a lot of people being sold that Time Release is actually better for them. 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:52.800 They want to know your opinion on Time Release versus just your basic Cytomel. 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.800 Is there a difference, and is one better than the other? 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:08.800 I've heard from several people who were having either overdose effects from the Time Release or no effects, 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:16.800 and I got some documents from a lawyer who was defending someone, 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:32.800 and so they had the compounded Time Release T3 analyzed by a couple different laboratories, and no T3 could be found in it. 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:44.800 The T3, if you compound it carelessly, it's very easily destroyed or lost or oxidized or otherwise decomposed, 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:53.800 and with the wrong Time Release agent that might work for vitamin A or something, 00:46:53.800 --> 00:47:02.800 it might just permanently bind the T3 or it might release it as soon as it hits your stomach acid. 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:09.800 There just hasn't been good research on how to compound the Time Release T3, 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:20.800 and even a lot of the generic products that they presumably have imitated Cytomel, 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:27.800 some of the generic products have very erratic effects. 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:36.800 Generally, I don't think the idea of a patented brand-name medicine is a good idea. 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:48.800 It's usually mostly fakery, but in the case of T3, I haven't seen a good other product. 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:53.800 It's interesting, there's a lot of people out there that get sold that the Time Release is the only way to go. 00:47:53.800 --> 00:48:00.800 It's just good to know you get options and what's going to be best for that person, but nutrition first if possible. 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:10.800 Another question about the cat seems to always come up, and I think it's a simplistic medicinal food that gets really put into a complex. 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.800 People just are confused on, you talked about how to use it, shredding and etc. 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.800 People, which I find kind of odd because all you have to do is eat one carrot, 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.800 they're finding it hard to carve out time to eat a carrot alone. 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:26.800 Do you recommend eating it before a meal, with a meal, after a meal? 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.800 Is there any difference, or is it really that simple, just eat a carrot a day? 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:42.800 Usually it's just eating the carrot, but if you're having a problem with low blood sugar or thyroid irregular function, 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:54.800 if you eat it with a meal, you might slow digestion to the point that you aren't getting your food as expected. 00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:02.800 So you might feel shaky after eating because you're not absorbing your food or activating your thyroid properly. 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:13.800 But if a person wants to reduce their fat absorption, eating the carrot with the meal will accelerate weight loss. 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:19.800 You have to fit it in the way that functions best. 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:27.800 One thing to keep in mind is that if your intestine has been sluggish for a long time, 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:36.800 and you start stimulating it with the raw carrot, you will be changing the rhythm of the peristalsis. 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:44.800 It takes sometimes a week to set up a new rhythm around a daily carrot. 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:51.800 So you can get some side effects while you're adapting, creating a new bowel rhythm. 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:57.800 Right. And do you find sometimes that it can actually constipate people? 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:06.800 Oh, very rarely. One in a thousand or so will react to the carotene. 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:12.800 If you're very low thyroid, if the palms of your hands and calluses are orange, 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:18.800 then you might want to rinse the carrot after grating it to get some of the carotene out. 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.800 Right. Yeah, it's good stuff that works. 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:26.800 And now everyone's going to start eating it with their meal because you said it aids weight loss. 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:31.800 Everyone's going to be going crazy now eating carrots during their meal. It's great. 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.800 So talking about carbon dioxide, this is huge. 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.800 And I know a lot of times you're talking about it at the cell level. 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.800 And a lot of people out there, you know, eating, your philosophy, 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.800 the whole goal is to increase carbon dioxide production by the cell. 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.800 A lot of people want to know, besides the nutrition, 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:53.800 if they're trying to increase their carbon dioxide levels, you know, 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.800 with adding baking soda to, say, orange juice throughout the day, would that actually help? 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.800 And is that something you recommend? 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:09.800 Well, some orange juice is so sour that people tolerate it better if they put a pinch of baking soda in it. 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.800 The orange juice companies typically add citric acid if they accidentally get ripe oranges 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:22.800 because people are so accustomed to the acidic tang of orange juice. 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:34.800 But you tend, if you put it in acid, baking soda is going to bubble off most of the carbon dioxide. 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:43.800 Some will dissolve in the water, and it might increase your systemic CO2 a little bit. 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:51.800 There have been experiments where, like with bicycle racers in Death Valley, 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:56.800 they had them take a tablespoon of baking soda before the race, 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:08.800 and they found that they performed better because of either the increased sodium or the increased CO2. 00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:15.800 Now, wouldn't you say that anything you do nutritionally to downregulate serotonin 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:21.800 would actually upregulate CO2 as well? Is that correct? 00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:27.800 I'm not sure how general that is. Probably. It seems probable. 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:32.800 Okay. Guys, don't forget to call in if you want to call in. 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:38.800 I'm going to have a ton of questions, but you're welcome to call in, 347-426-3546. 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.800 Next question is about coconut oil. 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.800 If someone doesn't have a gallbladder, is that the best source of fat, 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.800 since most of the medium-chain fatty acids don't need bile to digest? 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.800 Are there any other good sources? 00:52:53.800 --> 00:53:03.800 I think just eating things in a mixed form in small amounts is important if you don't have a gallbladder. 00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:10.800 The bile is still going to be there, but it's coming out in dribbles rather than surges. 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.800 So mixing your fats with your proteins, carbs, in smaller amounts? 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.800 Yeah. 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.800 Okay. It's pretty simple. 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:26.800 In regards to detoxing from poof, I think in one of your books or articles you talked about, 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.800 I think it takes four years or something like that. 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.800 Yeah, that's some experiments in rats and people. 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.800 They found that it depends on the size of the fat cell, 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:44.800 depending on that rather than the size of the organism. 00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:53.800 It's just a slow process to randomly renew the composition of the fat cells. 00:53:53.800 --> 00:54:00.800 Right. So this person wants to know, because of starting to eat based on some of your philosophies, 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:04.800 they feel that maybe because of the poof of detox, 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:11.800 they're actually having initially more kind of reactive hypoglycemic reactions, 00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.800 and they feel like they might be getting worse. 00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:18.800 Is that because of the poof of detox, and is there any way to make it easier? 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:26.800 Keeping your blood sugar steady and even adding some saturated fat. 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:31.800 The saturated fats inhibit the stress hormones, 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:38.800 which means that they also tend to inhibit release of fat from stores. 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:46.800 So sugar and saturated fats and niacin and aspirin and various safe nutrients 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.800 inhibit the release of fat. 00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:56.800 So doing everything you can to keep the fat in place, 00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:03.800 it isn't going to completely stop the reduction of the fat. 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:08.800 The fat cells themselves are able to slowly oxidize. 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:15.800 I think someone calculated that a person could just in their fat cells alone, 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:22.800 if the fat never leaves, the fat cells will consume about three pounds in a couple of years. 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:32.800 A very slow reduction, but the minimal release into the bloodstream 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.800 isn't going to cause the stress symptoms if you're having the saturated fats 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.800 to turn off the stress reactions, 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:47.800 outweighing the pro-stress effects of the liberated fats. 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:57.800 What about using foods or topical or powder supplements like vitamin E or niacinamide? 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:04.800 Niacinamide is an anti-fat liberating substance. 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.800 Usually 100 milligrams twice a day is all it takes, 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:15.800 but it's fairly safe to use larger doses if it's needed. 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.800 Yes. Everyone listening, don't go out there and start popping niacinamide 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:23.800 to something that maybe some people might need. 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.800 So don't start going crazy and buying it. 00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:36.800 One of the ways that the body safely eliminates the stored PUFA is through the liver. 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:45.800 The liver recognizes whatever is carried on the albumin as it streams through the liver. 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:55.800 The albumin binds anything that's fat soluble and carries it to the liver. 00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:03.800 And the liver, when the albumin arrives carrying either dioxin 00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:12.800 or one of the toxic environmental estrogenic substances, 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:19.800 the liver will capture it and bind it as it processes it for detox. 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:29.800 It recognizes the PUFA as toxins and will selectively attach glucuronic acid to them 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:35.800 just as if it was dioxin and send it to the kidneys for excretion. 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:40.800 That's the safe way to get rid of it, let your liver take care of it. 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.800 Good stuff. Good stuff. 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.800 I'm going to buzz this caller in. 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:54.800 Caller from the 386, you're on the air. 00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.800 Caller from the 386, you're on the air. 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:08.800 And we're going to take them off because we can hear ourselves in the background. 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.800 Guys, when you call in, make sure you're kind of in a quiet spot. 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.800 I can ask you a question and I can kind of hang up on you and let Ray answer it. 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.800 That's fine as well. 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.800 Question about blood pressure. 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:28.800 Can high blood pressure be looked at similar to high cholesterol, meaning more stress, 00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.800 so it's an adaptation mechanism? 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:44.800 Yeah, when your body senses that it's not getting enough oxygen or glucose or other essential factor, 00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:53.800 it tells the heart to pump more blood to deliver more oxygen and glucose. 00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:57.800 That's the way it should work. 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:07.800 When you're loaded with PUFA, they're tending to give chronic signals to the brain that nothing is getting the glucose 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:17.800 and oxygen that it needs because, in truth, the PUFA are interfering with the use of glucose and oxygen, 00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:28.800 but the PUFA are also telling the pituitary and the nervous system to crank up the stress signals. 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:34.800 While we're on the topic of blood pressure, there's a couple questions about salt. 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:39.800 And I think one of the great articles/newsletter you wrote, if people haven't read it, 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.800 is about eclampsia in the real organism. 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:44.800 It's one of my favorites. 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.800 It's a work of Tom Brewer, guys. 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.800 I got kind of his name from Dr. Ray Peat. 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.800 He's got some great books on pregnancy, eclampsia, toxemia, et cetera. 00:59:54.800 --> 01:00:00.800 Can you talk a little bit about just the benefits of salt and why it's so important, not only for us, 01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.800 but also pregnant women? 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:14.800 Well, the eclampsia problem is very closely connected to high PUFA, and that goes with low thyroid. 01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:24.800 And low thyroid goes with the low carbon dioxide and poor ability to retain sodium. 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:31.800 And so the sodium is constantly being lost, as well as the magnesium. 01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:41.800 And as the sodium is lost, the adrenals try to correct things by increasing aldosterone, 01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:52.800 which does retain sodium, but at the expense of losing magnesium faster. 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:57.800 And if your thyroid is low, you not only lose sodium through the kidneys, 01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.800 but your cells can't retain magnesium. 01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:09.800 And so on a low sodium intake relative to your hormonal needs, 01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:17.800 what you're doing is turning on a system that makes the problem worse by letting out the magnesium 01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:28.800 that is needed for cell energy and controlling inflammation and tension and cramps and so on. 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:38.800 So if you just increase your sodium intake, you're compensating for a low thyroid function, 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:47.800 but you're turning off the aldosterone, and getting the aldosterone down directly lowers inflammation 01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:51.800 and stops some of the magnesium loss. 01:01:51.800 --> 01:02:00.800 So just by adding sodium as Brewer and the people he based his thinking on, 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:07.800 they showed that just sodium alone would very commonly cure the whole problem, 01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:15.800 and that seems to be acting by way largely of the aldosterone system. 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.800 Now what does it have to do with albumin? 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:25.800 Does albumin play into that in regards to regulating water distribution 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.800 and how albumin is actually affected by estrogen? 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:34.800 Yeah, estrogen interferes with the liver's synthesis of albumin, 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:44.800 and the polyunsaturated fats under stress are going to be circulating in the blood, 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.800 and the albumin is picking them up. 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:54.800 But if you're producing less albumin and having more unsaturated fats, 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.800 the albumin isn't able to detoxify them very well, 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:04.800 but it becomes saturated with unsaturated fats. 01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:11.800 And when albumin is loaded with fats, it goes right into cells. 01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:19.800 Part of its function is to deliver saturated fats to stress tissues. 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:25.800 So that's part of if your fat is saturated, the albumin has a logical function 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:33.800 to increase the energy supply during a crisis by taking it right into the heart, for example, 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:39.800 and saving sugar for the brain to use and so on. 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:51.800 But in the kidneys, this being overloaded with fat happens to make the albumin 01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.800 pass right through the kidneys into the urine, 01:03:54.800 --> 01:04:01.800 and so you tend to lose albumin as well as sodium 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:07.800 under the influence of high stress and PUFA. 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:14.800 And it shows up as albumin in the urine when you're under great stress. 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:25.800 And the albumin, one of its functions is to retain water in association 01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:31.800 with the open protein molecule. 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:39.800 It has sites that associate with sodium, and the sodium associated with water 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.800 is kept in the vicinity of the albumin molecule. 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.800 But if you're low in sodium, the albumin can't work, 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:56.800 and if your albumin is low besides, then you get a double problem of water retention. 01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:06.800 So the first thing that happens when you correct your fats and thyroid and estrogen and so on 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:13.800 is that you let water out of your body while retaining the sodium, magnesium, albumin, 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.800 and all the stuff you need. 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:21.800 And that's why when women are pregnant, their blood volume goes up so much. 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:26.800 It's because of albumin, and Tom Brewer talks about estrogen lowering that 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.800 and affecting blood volume and high blood pressure. 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:29.800 So I guess-- 01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:34.800 Yeah, and the fetus and the brain are being deprived of estrogen and sugar, 01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:38.800 and so you get the signals to drive up the blood pressure, 01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.800 but the same thing is causing the blood volume to go down. 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:48.800 So you've got to get the blood volume up, and salt's the quickest way to do that. 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:50.800 Right. 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:52.800 We've talked about salt before, so that's great. 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:54.800 We have a caller, a couple of callers actually. 01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.800 I'm going to take the caller from the 415. 01:05:58.800 --> 01:05:59.800 Hello? 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.800 Caller from the 415, you're on--yeah, you're on the air. 01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:02.800 Okay. 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:07.800 Yeah, I was just wondering what you think of heavy metal detox as far as if you get your amalgams, 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:13.800 multiple of them out of your mouth, and the doctor or dentist wants to put you on, like, IV, 01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:20.800 glutathione, or vitamin C drips, or major doses of cilantro or chlorella. 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:26.800 Do you think that's all necessary, or can you get the mercury out of your tissues, 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:32.800 which seems to be a year if people think it's saturated their tissues? 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:36.800 Do you think you can get it out on your own, or do you need supplements? 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.800 Hans Selye did experiments with poisoning animals with mercury 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:46.800 and showed that a given dose would cause death of the kidneys and such, 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:51.800 but then he gave them the same amount of mercury plus vitamin C, 01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:54.800 and they had no toxic effects at all. 01:06:54.800 --> 01:07:00.800 The mercury in its reduced form isn't toxic. 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:03.800 It's just a metal, but it's like iron. 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.800 It depends on the exact state of reduction that makes it stick to things. 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:17.800 Caffeine is associated with getting the heavy metals out of your tissues, 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:21.800 probably as a sort of chelator, 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:30.800 but vitamin C from regular foods is an important defense against all of the heavy metals. 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:38.800 But if you take these reducing agents in an unphysiological way, 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:40.800 they can activate iron. 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:42.800 Like I mentioned in the liver, 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:50.800 alcohol causes the reduction of iron by activating glutathione. 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:55.800 Glutathione is the agent of making iron toxic. 01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:04.800 So if you put glutathione or another reducing agent into the blood in an unphysiological way, 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.800 it can increase the pre-radical damage. 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:09.800 Oh, great. 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:10.800 Okay. 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.800 So don't sit there with a drip in your arm. 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:13.800 You don't need it. 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:14.800 I don't think so. 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:15.800 Okay. 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:16.800 All right. 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:18.800 Thanks. 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:19.800 Thanks for calling in. 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.800 Sure. 01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:23.800 We've got another call. 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:28.800 I'm going to take them to spend a whole for about 10 minutes. 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:30.800 Caller from 386, you're on the air. 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:32.800 Yes, this is Debbie, 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:37.800 and I am calling from the Bray-Peat fans on Facebook with a very basic question 01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:41.800 that's been on a running thread of ours for the last couple of days. 01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:43.800 Hi, Debbie. 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:44.800 Hi. 01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:50.800 We want to know if there's a reason or an advantage to shredding the carrot. 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:57.800 Oh, there have been experiments with the length of the fiber. 01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:05.800 And, for example, they experimented with different ways of milling bran, 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:14.800 and the one that was called B-Wing bran had about 10 times better function in the 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.800 intestine than the ordinary way of grinding it to a dust. 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.800 And it's the same if you put a carrot in a blender. 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:29.800 You're destroying a lot of the water-retaining function of the fibers. 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.800 Well, what about as opposed to eating the carrot whole? 01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:40.800 Yeah, your teeth leave large sections of the fiber intact. 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:43.800 So we should shred the carrot? 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:45.800 Or chew it. 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:47.800 Just chewing it is very good. 01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:48.800 Okay. 01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.800 That is what we needed to know. 01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:51.800 Thank you so much. 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:54.800 It's a real privilege to be listening to you today, Dr. Peat. 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:56.800 Thank you so much. 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:57.800 Thanks for calling in. 01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.800 Thank you. 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.800 Good questions. 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.800 I got tons of questions, and this is kind of a general question, 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.800 and if you don't want to answer it, you don't have to. 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:13.800 A lot of people want to know if you're familiar with Weston A. Price's work. 01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:14.800 Oh, yeah. 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:15.800 Of course. 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.800 And they want to know your thoughts on it. 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:31.800 Oh, he saw that traditional diets produced good tooth development, generally, 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:34.800 and bone development. 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:39.800 So his work was basically very good, 01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:47.800 seeing that you can eat a lot of traditional diets and be healthy. 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:48.800 Okay. 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:50.800 That was simple. 01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:55.800 Another question is regarding fertility, but not female fertility. 01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:57.800 We're going to talk about the men. 01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:02.800 If someone has, let's say, low sperm count or quality, 01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:04.800 could you talk about maybe some reasons for that, 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:09.800 and what could they actually maybe change in their diet to actually help increase that 01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:11.800 or alleviate it? 01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:17.800 Low thyroid is probably the main cause of both male and female infertility, 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.800 and already in the 1940s, 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:30.800 people saw that pregnenolone alone by itself was enough to greatly increase sperm quality. 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:41.800 And the polyunsaturated fats, which interfere with the steroid production as well as thyroid function, 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:48.800 are a major villain in male fertility. 01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:49.800 Interesting. 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.800 So just really following consistently a lot of your diet recommendations, 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:58.800 food, eliminating KUFAs over time will help to increase sperm count 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.800 and just male fertility just like women. 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:01.800 Yes. 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:11.800 I've seen several people in just, I think, two or three weeks using pregnenolone and thyroid. 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:18.800 Just the man doing that, the couple got pregnant the very next month. 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:19.800 Okay. 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:22.800 Now this question is from Karen MCC. 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:24.800 She wants to know about sleep. 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:29.800 She says, "There's a lot of people out there that are following your principles and they feel good, 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:33.800 but one of the things that is troubling them is sleep. 01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:39.800 They maybe fall asleep and wake up or they have trouble sleep or they wake up and their pulse is super high. 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:46.800 Can you maybe elaborate on why and give us maybe some basic things that people could do to help alleviate that?" 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:47.800 Yes. 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.800 Taking too much thyroid too soon can do that. 01:12:51.800 --> 01:13:01.800 Your liver should store enough glucose or glycogen to let you fast for at least eight hours, 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.800 especially during sleep. 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:13.800 But before the liver has regenerated its ability to store glycogen, 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:23.800 the thyroid is making your brain and muscles and kidneys need more sugar and oxygen. 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:32.800 And so you have to eat more often until the liver is able to adapt. 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:39.800 Now let's say someone's eating the principles and not taking a glandular and they consistently have high pulses. 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:41.800 Now we could say it's adrenaline. 01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:43.800 We could say they're hypothyroid. 01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:49.800 Do you feel that if they were to change anything in their diet, it would be the amount of carbs they're taking? 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.800 They would have to increase their carbs to regulate their blood sugar more? 01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:54.800 Or would they eat more often? 01:13:54.800 --> 01:14:06.800 Yes, eating more often and making sure that the fat is just enough to keep you from absorbing your sugar all at once 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:15.800 and burning it, having some fat with your carbohydrate makes it absorb more slowly. 01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:17.800 So increasing the fat intake. 01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:27.800 Yes, sometimes that helps to sleep through the night to have a good amount of fat along with your carbohydrate at bedtime. 01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:46.800 And salt, I've known very young and very old people both with sleep problems who as soon as they tried a very salty snack at bedtime just had perfect sleep. 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:53.800 Salt is very effective at lowering adrenaline. 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:58.800 Good stuff. We've got another call. I'm going to take this caller. 01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.800 Caller from the 718, you're on the air. 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:03.800 Yes, hello? 01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:04.800 Hello. 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:05.800 Hello. 01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:06.800 You're on the air. 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:12.800 Yes, I have a question. I'll try to make it as brief as possible. 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:19.800 For about a year I was somebody who was like -- at least I perceived it as being very sugar intolerant. 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:27.800 And every time I tried taking it, it would just -- even a very small amount, I just felt terrible from it. 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:33.800 And about maybe two weeks ago I tried -- I was able to get pure fructose. 01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:40.800 And after about two or three days of taking fairly large quantities of fructose, I really felt great. 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:46.800 And I noticed I had a tolerance where I could actually consume all types of sugar. 01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:55.800 And I was able to, you know, have anything from soda to orange juice or whatever. 01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:59.800 And I felt -- I was starting to feel really good after about a week from it. 01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:08.800 And the problem is recently, maybe about two or three days ago, I started having pretty bad sleep problems as a result of -- 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:16.800 well, I'm not entirely sure, but it feels -- it felt, you know, sort of similar to when I eat MSG 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.800 and I have like a pain in the lower part of my rib cage. 01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:29.800 And so just the last maybe day I was able to -- I switched over to starch, which is similar to like what I was on beforehand. 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:37.800 And it was, you know, like my sleep kind of normalized. 01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:40.800 What kind of fat were you having with it? 01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:52.800 Primarily coconut oil and butter, not much else other than that. 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:56.800 Have you had any digestive problems noticeable? 01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:03.800 Well, actually I noticed when I was on the sugar it was actually quite a bit -- I mean, it was much better. 01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.800 I mean, very, very noticeably better. 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:18.800 And with the starch it's sort of like -- it's not so good, but I've maybe been on it for maybe like a day or two 01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.800 and the sleep sort of normalized very quickly. 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:26.800 And I'm just wondering, maybe it's like some sort of detox or I don't know. 01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:34.800 I think it's probably that the starch is getting digested and assimilated more slowly 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:47.800 and that eating some fiber with your carbohydrate, fiber and fat will extend the absorption of it longer. 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:56.800 And the normal thing is that the sugar is absorbed quickly in the upper part of the intestine 01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:03.800 and starch, if it's slow to break down, can feed bacteria lower in the intestine 01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:09.800 and cause intestinal inflammation that interrupts sleep. 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.800 Okay. 01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:14.800 I mean, I have very high RT3. 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.800 Would that have anything to do with it? 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:19.800 Yeah, that's from high stress. 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:21.800 Okay. 01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:26.800 And getting your endotoxin and cortisol down. 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:36.800 I've seen quite a few people just with a daily carrot get their intestine disinfected enough 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:43.800 that their reverse T3 goes down and their cortisol goes down. 01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:50.800 So the combination of fat and fiber might be a way to make your blood sugar steadier. 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:52.800 Okay. 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:53.800 Well, I'll definitely try that. 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.800 But the fructose is really unbelievable. 01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.800 That's good to hear. 01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:00.800 Well, thank you very much. 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:05.800 Thanks for calling in. 01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:06.800 Good questions, guys. 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:11.800 If you still have more, you can call in 347-426-3546. 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:17.800 We've got another question here on dental health. 01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:23.800 Question about there's a lot of people who recommend eliminating sucrose, fructose, and most fruits 01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:25.800 when people have dental ailments. 01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:31.800 And on the other side of it, you know, you talk about increasing, you know, carbohydrates, you know, 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:33.800 for cell metabolism, et cetera. 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:37.800 Can you elaborate a little bit on that, why there's so much conflicting information on that, 01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:40.800 and what contributes to dental issues? 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:45.800 I saw a recent article on dental health in Sweden, 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:53.800 and they saw that during the time that cavities have decreased radically, 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:59.800 sugar, candy, and soft drink consumption had actually increased, 01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:05.800 and they couldn't account for why the teeth were healthier while they were -- 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:16.800 the basic diet hadn't changed so much, but had increased in the supposedly cavity-causing snack foods. 01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:29.800 And in my sugar article, I mention some of the old studies in which they modified the thyroid or estrogen 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:39.800 and found that increased estrogen increased the dental decay, increased thyroid reduced the dental decay. 01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:53.800 And one whole line of dental research has shown that stress will very quickly cause an outbreak of cavities. 01:20:53.800 --> 01:21:02.800 And mainline dentistry just thinks in terms of germ growth in the mouth 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:12.800 and completely neglects the chemical and immunological function of the saliva. 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:18.800 I think the saliva is the mediator of stress. 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:24.800 Interesting. Now, kind of going on to a different topic, 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:29.800 this question I think is in regard to -- I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, I'm not too familiar with it -- 01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:33.800 the work of Dr. Ron Vignieri, he's a PhD, 01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:40.800 and they want to know that -- you know, he talks about fasting in -- 01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:44.800 for at least periods of protein restriction to upregulate the process of -- 01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:49.800 I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this right -- autophagy, or autophagy, I don't know. 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:50.800 Oh. 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:55.800 Or the self-eating of old and damaged proteins, which is supposed to help starve off diseases, including cancer. 01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.800 What's your thoughts on that? 01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:10.800 Well, activating your metabolism, running things faster, is going to eat up proteins that shouldn't be there. 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:18.800 And one of the main things interfering with the breakdown of protein is the PUFA, 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:23.800 especially the long-chain PUFA that accumulate with aging. 01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:36.800 And people like to talk about the membranes as where the fatty acids are active 01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:46.800 and where they make a difference, but the experimental background of what the membranes consist of 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:53.800 is just completely ignored by mainstream medicine. 01:22:53.800 --> 01:23:03.800 Like cholesterol itself is part of our cell division apparatus, part of the chromosomes, 01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:13.800 part of many functional proteins, so are the free fatty acids and the phospholipids that they participate in. 01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:31.800 The nuclear structure and the cell division structure is regulated or deranged by the type of fatty acids in your diet. 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:49.800 And accumulating the long-chain unsaturated fatty acids with aging is changing the way the cell functions at the deepest levels. 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:57.800 Now, kind of on that same note, you have people like, if you haven't heard it, Cynthia Kenyon's work and Rob Wolf, 01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:02.800 all these people that promote carb restriction for longevity. 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:09.800 What's your thoughts on that? 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:18.800 In the short range, just fasting itself will reduce the endotoxin absorption, 01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:25.800 and so that's always an effect that can help things like arthritis and so on. 01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:34.800 And dropping your carbohydrate intake will raise your cortisol production, 01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:41.800 and people feel better very often from either fasting or just dropping the carbohydrate intake 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:51.800 because the cortisol excess produces a sort of anesthetic euphoria. 01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:59.800 People can get addicted to taking cortisol pills because it makes them feel good, makes the pain go away, 01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:03.800 but in the long run, that's stressful. 01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:12.800 To turn protein into the carbohydrate that your brain and blood cells need, 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:20.800 it requires a shift towards a higher cortisol function to break down the proteins. 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.800 And so what you're doing is running on stress so that the proteins that you eat 01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:30.800 will be converted to the sugar that you need. 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:37.800 And if you have the carbohydrate in your diet, your cortisol is going to run lower, 01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:42.800 like the monkeys they've studied. 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:50.800 When fruits are scarce, they have very high levels of cortisol. 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:51.800 Yeah, yeah. 01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.800 I remember one of your articles, I posted something the other day about that. 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:56.800 It's pretty interesting stuff. 01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:04.800 Now, kind of going on a different topic, someone wants to know about your thoughts on cell phones, 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:10.800 and are they really unhealthy, or do you feel like it's just like microwave threats? 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:19.800 Well, microwaves are a threat, and so they fixed the ovens so that they weren't irradiating people so much. 01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:28.800 The ovens used to not have good seals on the doors and used to actually emit very intense fields. 01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.800 And the telephones, the same way. 01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:39.800 There have been experiments for over 50 years showing that there are real biological effects 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:44.800 from even moderately weak fields. 01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:49.800 But here is the doctrine of the cell membrane. 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:57.800 Again, the standard medical doctrine is that a cell has a fat membrane around it 01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:05.800 because it needs something to seal in a watery solution of chemicals to isolate it from the environment 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:14.800 because you have high potassium and magnesium in the cell, low calcium and sodium, 01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:21.800 and to maintain that balance, they visualize needing this barrier membrane. 01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:33.800 And so they see a random solution of chemicals in water as being what life of the cell is, 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:42.800 and therefore for a radiation to affect the chemistry of the cell, 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:51.800 it has to be just like the effect of the same radiation on those chemicals in a test tube. 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:59.800 And they show that you have to basically have enough microwave energy to cook an egg or something 01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:06.800 before you see damage to the chemistry of those enzymes and such in a test tube. 01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:13.800 But in the cell, the whole problem is that there is no such barrier membrane. 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:20.800 It's the whole structure of the cell which does the regulation, 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:27.800 not a magical barrier at the surface that keeps a random solution inside. 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:36.800 The whole cell is so highly organized that many of the regions have an antenna-like function 01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:43.800 that responds to very low levels of electromagnetic energy. 01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:49.800 And if you actually do the experiments, you can see that an animal's behavior, 01:28:49.800 --> 01:29:01.800 chromosome function, reproduction, and so on, will change at very low levels that aren't heating the enzymes, 01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:05.800 aren't heating the organism noticeably. 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:15.800 But it's this very persistent doctrine in medicine that the inside of a cell is a random solution. 01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:19.800 That's the basis for saying that microwaves are harmless. 01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:21.800 Right. 01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:25.800 Going back to the thyroid, someone has a question about, you know, you say thyroid a lot, 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:27.800 and they want to know what you mean. 01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:30.800 I assume you're always talking about T3. 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.800 And at the same time, there's a lot of people out there trying to buy glandulars 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:40.800 because they can't take T3 or they can't get T3. 01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:46.800 So the first question is, do you recommend, if people need it, for people to take thyroid glandulars? 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:50.800 And my question is as well, I've read somewhere, I don't remember, 01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:54.800 that if people are really -- if their adrenals are really super stressed 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:59.800 and there is something going on with them, that if you do take something for the thyroid, 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:05.800 that you can actually get worse because you don't have the energy reserves to actually handle the increase in metabolism. 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:11.800 If a person's cholesterol is down around 100 milligrams per cent, 01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:14.800 then they have to be careful with everything. 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.800 They're very fragile. 01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:21.800 The cholesterol is a basic anti-stress substance. 01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:30.800 You've got to get the cholesterol up to at least normal, minimum 160 milligrams per cent, 01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:43.800 possibly somewhat higher, before you worry about increasing your general metabolic rate and energy production. 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:51.800 And orange juice is usually the safest first way to get your cholesterol up to normal. 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:59.800 And then if your cholesterol is up and you're getting enough of the vitamins and minerals that are essential, 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:05.800 then the thyroid will very quickly make your adrenal glands adapt. 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:17.800 And with the balanced thyroid hormones that were in the traditional thyroid glands that people got in fish head soup 01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:26.800 or chicken stew where the neck included the thyroid gland, those traditional diets, 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:34.800 the thyroid consisted of about three parts of T4 to one part of T3. 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:54.800 And as the liver gets energy in the form of glucose, it will convert T4 to T3 to adjust the amount of T3 and energy production. 01:31:54.800 --> 01:32:07.800 If you don't have sugar and take your glandular, you just experience about 25 per cent of the potential effect of it. 01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:12.800 Your liver is not going to activate the rest of the T4. 01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:23.800 So the glandular is in a way safer because it lets your liver handle your physiology to a great extent. 01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:37.800 If you try to take just T3 and completely satisfy all your thyroid needs with pure T3, your TSH goes down, 01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:41.800 your thyroid stops working momentarily. 01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:48.800 But if you don't take your T3 during the night, your TSH is going to rev up 01:32:48.800 --> 01:33:03.800 and turn on a lot of inflammatory processes and you'll experience acute hypothyroidism in just 8 to 12 hours of not taking your T3. 01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:11.800 So it's most convenient for most people to have some of the T4 as in the glandulars. 01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:21.800 The trouble is the technology of making a glandular product seems to have been lost. 01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:30.800 Armour was making their traditional thyroid product for about 85 or 90 years. 01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:40.800 And Revlon, the cosmetics company, bought the product and went through several changes of ownership. 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:49.800 And in the process, the new owner decided to extract thyrocalcitonin to have a new product. 01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:59.800 And so they kept selling the remains of the thyroid gland minus the calcitonin 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:05.800 and subject to whatever process was needed to separate it. 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:17.800 The new thyroid glandular, even in the so-called traditional armour, is no longer what it used to be. 01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:25.800 And there has been research to catch up with the new product. 01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:32.800 So if you think about the research that was done with armour for all of the 20th century, 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:44.800 I don't necessarily say that it's going to apply to whatever is being made with the so-called armour equivalent or generic material. 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:55.800 If the manufacturer is selling part of it separately, it isn't really the traditional product. 01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:58.800 That's good stuff right there. 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:05.800 Can you talk a little bit more or just talk a little bit about the correlation and the roles between magnesium and calcium? 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:11.800 And one of the questions was about they feel your diet recommendations are high in calcium. 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.800 What's the optimal ratio and where would you get magnesium? 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:22.800 Well, coffee is a great source of magnesium. 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:30.800 If you're not under stress and your thyroid is good, your cells have a tremendous ability to retain magnesium 01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:36.800 because it binds to the ATP molecule, becomes part of the molecule. 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:43.800 And if your thyroid is low and you don't produce ATP fast enough, 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:49.800 the cell doesn't have the main thing that binds magnesium intracellularly 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:54.800 and so it tends to go out into the bloodstream and get lost in the urine. 01:35:54.800 --> 01:36:01.800 So your thyroid status is the main thing that determines how much magnesium you need. 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:10.800 A low sodium intake will make you lose magnesium by increasing the aldosterone production. 01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:24.800 And you can't talk about the ideal ratio of the minerals in the abstract because it's the interaction. 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.800 And the same with calcium. 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:33.800 Calcium lowers a lot of the excitatory, inflammatory things, 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.800 which would tend to make you lose magnesium and sodium. 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:43.800 And so if you have a diet that seems to be deficient in one of these, 01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:54.800 you can very often solve the problem with any of the other four, potassium, sodium, magnesium, and calcium. 01:36:54.800 --> 01:37:01.800 William Frederick Koch, who was one of the first people to study the parathyroid gland, 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:12.800 would remove the gland and cause the muscle contractions from the absence of the parathyroid hormone. 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:20.800 But he found that he could cure the spasms with any of the minerals, not just calcium, 01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:26.800 but potassium, sodium, or magnesium would also cure the spasms. 01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:36.800 So it's a matter of having a total of these alkaline minerals, not an exact balance. 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:46.800 And one thing that is another factor that interferes is the phosphorus or phosphate intake. 01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:52.800 A lot of Americans get seven times as much phosphate as calcium. 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:58.800 And it takes many years for the effects to show up. 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:08.800 But one of the functions of fructose is to make you lose phosphate faster than otherwise, 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:16.800 and that's supporting the function of the parathyroid gland to improve the ratio between calcium and phosphorus. 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:27.800 And if your fructose intake is high, then you don't have to worry too much about the exact ratio of calcium to phosphorus. 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:37.800 But the ratio in milk, 1.3 to 1, is very close to a very safe ratio. 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:49.800 But you can easily get by with two or three times as much phosphate as calcium, especially if your sugar intake is good. 01:38:49.800 --> 01:39:03.800 And then if you're getting plenty of salt and calcium, you don't have to worry much about the other two alkaline minerals. 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:07.800 Doesn't calcium and phosphorus have an inverse relationship in the body? 01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:09.800 So if one's high, one's technically lower a lot of the time? 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:11.800 Yeah. 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.800 And then a lot of people that do, because a lot of people will take magnesium or a CalMag supplement 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:19.800 because they have restless leg syndrome, etc. 01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.800 So a lot of the times, if they're deficient in calcium, the cells have taken up calcium. 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:29.800 By taking calcium alone, you can actually decrease that excitatory nature 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.800 and upregulate magnesium itself without any take in it. Is that true, too? 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:46.800 Yeah. That's why potassium and sodium and calcium will often prevent cramps or spasms and such. 01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:50.800 They're helping you retain your magnesium more efficiently. 01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:52.800 Right. 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:56.800 Just a couple more questions, and we can wrap it up. 01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:00.800 If anyone has any calls, feel free to call in 347 or any questions. 01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:04.800 347-426-3546. 01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:06.800 Anything you want to add in, Ray? 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:07.800 Nope. 01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:08.800 Okay. 01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:10.800 I have a kind of off-the-wall question. 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:14.800 I didn't even know you were working on this, and I don't know if you even know you're working on this, 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:23.800 but a caller or follower had a question about if you were working on or almost finished with your book on the thyroid. 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:26.800 I didn't know. I'm working on it right now. 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.800 Okay. That's a bummer. 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:32.800 Another kind of off-the-wall question. 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:39.800 One of the listeners wanted to know if all the emails that you get from followers, 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:49.800 if you feel supported or if they're becoming a nuisance. 01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:58.800 There are some people who ask very trivial questions that they should just think about or look up for themselves. 01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:00.800 Right. Yeah. 01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:01.800 No, that's a good point. 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:02.800 It's a good point. 01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:08.800 And like I've said before, guys, if you're emailing him, you need to kind of compensate him for his time. 01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:10.800 And at the same time, he's got tons of articles on his site. 01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:14.800 Take the time to read them. 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:18.800 That's an important aspect of it. 01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:21.800 So if you guys want to call in, I'm pretty much out of questions. 01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:25.800 I mean, I rattled through probably 50, 60 questions. 01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:28.800 There were some general ones, but like I said, I felt like people -- 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:31.800 I didn't ask them because I feel like people would just read some of your articles 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:34.800 and I don't think they're questions you need to answer. 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:41.800 So before we kind of wrap up, guys, if you have any questions, 347-426-3546. 01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:43.800 Ray doesn't really have anything else to add. 01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:49.800 As he mentioned, I'm pretty much out of questions from people. 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:52.800 So before we hang up, if you've got any questions, feel free to call in. 01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:54.800 We've got about 15 minutes left. 01:41:54.800 --> 01:42:00.800 It's been a pretty long show, and in my opinion, it's been an awesome show. 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.800 So does anyone have any other questions? 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:03.800 Feel free to call in. 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:04.800 You can email me as well. 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:09.800 I'm getting a lot of emails and Facebook from people in regards to their questions. 01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:17.800 Let me just take one more check to see if any are popping up. 01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:18.800 No, that's about it. 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:21.800 I think that's all. 01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:31.800 I might comment about -- I was talking about the changes in the manufacture of thyroid glandulars. 01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:38.800 Vitamin E is another thing that has undergone radical changes. 01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:47.800 When ADM bought the old Eastman distillation products factory for making vitamin E, 01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:55.800 they changed the methods and the consistency and appearance of vitamin E changed a lot, 01:42:55.800 --> 01:43:04.800 and then the FDA told them they had to start acknowledging that they were diluting it with soy oil and such. 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:15.800 But still, the product that's commonly in use looks very different from the old material. 01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:29.800 When I was working at the university lab, the freezer had some old vitamin E from Sigma that they had used in research in the '50s, 01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:41.800 and I tested some of that with experiments I was doing on liver extracts and got reactions that were extremely interesting 01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:49.800 that I've subsequently tried with the newer vitamin E's that I get no reaction at all. 01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:59.800 So there were chemical functions present that are interfered with by something that's appearing in the vitamin E. 01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:09.800 And the research up until about 1990, from the 1920s on, 01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:23.800 was just unanimously about its beneficial effects except for the periodic attacks in the Journal of the American Medical Association. 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:33.800 But then in the last 10 or 15 years, there have been more publications about ineffectiveness of vitamin E or possible adverse effects. 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:44.800 And I've been thinking about what some of the changes from the original 1930s and '40s product might have been. 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:54.800 And the saturated long-chain alcohols, octocosinol and polycosinol, 01:44:54.800 --> 01:45:06.800 were always associated with the original ways they made vitamin E that increased the viscosity. 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:12.800 Wheat germ oil was a common starting material, 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:25.800 and that was rich in these very long-chain, completely saturated alcohols, which immediately metabolized into long-chain saturated fatty acids. 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:32.800 And if you look up the research on octocosinol and polycosinol, 01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:44.800 you'll see that there was a lot of endurance effect, improved endurance from the use of small amounts of these. 01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:52.800 And I suspect that the original vitamin E research, 01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:59.800 which showed that it protected against the polyunsaturated fatty acids and their toxic effects, 01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:09.800 I think a large part of that might have been from adding the completely saturated long fatty acids along with the vitamin E, 01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:24.800 sort of neutralizing the PUFA, similar to Han-Selye's research in which he showed that canola would cause death of heart cells. 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:31.800 But if he added chocolate fat, cocoa butter, to the same amount of canola, 01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:40.800 the heart had no injury at all. So the saturated fats have a defensive antitoxic effect. 01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:47.800 I suspect were part of vitamin E's original action. 01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:55.800 Good stuff. We've got another caller. We'll take this one last caller from the area code 253. You're on the air. 01:46:55.800 --> 01:47:04.800 Hi. This is Justin from Washington. I was reading one of Ray's older books, 01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:15.800 and I saw something in there about, very interesting on the correlation between how Mexican children didn't get polio 01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:21.800 and its correlation to the milling of wheat and such things. 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:27.800 I was wondering if he had any comments on other vaccinations, how he felt about that, 01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:33.800 or anything to do with the infectious disease model. 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:40.800 Oh, yeah. I suspect that the same thing that the Mexican immigrants in California, 01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:50.800 the kids were immune to a lot of the childhood infectious diseases just because of their relative iron deficiency. 01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:55.800 I think that's probably a big factor in the traditional Mexican diet. 01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:08.800 And the traditional tortillas, interestingly, are very high in calcium because they boil it in lime. 01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:14.800 And it leaves a large amount of calcium. 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:28.800 My dentist in Mexico tells me that her clients with some tooth problem might come in when they're 80 or 90 years old 01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:30.800 and want a painful tooth extracted. 01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:37.800 She said sometimes it takes her all afternoon to get a tooth out of one of these old people. 01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:45.800 And she thinks it's the high calcium intake for their lifetime diet of tortillas. 01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:57.800 And that has an undoubted anti-stress effect along with the low iron intake on average. 01:48:57.800 --> 01:48:59.800 Wow. Great stuff. 01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:01.800 I just want to thank you, Ray, for doing real science. 01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:04.800 And like Josh said, everyone else that's listening, 01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:08.800 I'm going to throw together a little Christmas card and send it out with $20 or something. 01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.800 I hope we can all pull together and support some real science. 01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.800 I know there's a lot of people out there that really appreciate you, Ray. 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:17.800 I just wanted to thank you. 01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:24.800 About vaccination, I wanted to mention Ivan Illich's books, Medical Nemesis, for example. 01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:31.800 He does some good stuff on the history of vaccination. 01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:33.800 Cool. 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:36.800 Okay, great. Thanks, guys. Have a good night. 01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:37.800 Thanks, Justin, from Washington. 01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:39.800 All right. Bye. 01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:42.800 Bye. 01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:47.800 We've got one last question, and I'll read it to you because it just got emailed to me. 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:54.800 What do you feel about all the research regarding cell membrane and membrane signaling in the biotech field? 01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:57.800 Do you feel like it's a waste of time? 01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:07.800 Well, it's very good business because they can sell anything if they say it's working on signals via the cell membrane. 01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:16.800 But basically, if a cell is stressed, it will admit things that it wouldn't otherwise 01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:19.800 and lose things that it shouldn't lose. 01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:26.800 If a fat is attached to a substance, it'll get into the cell where it wouldn't otherwise. 01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:34.800 But when they talk about surface receptors, very often, if they actually experiment, 01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:42.800 it can be demonstrated that the substance is acting inside the cell, not just at the surface. 01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:47.800 This goes back 80 years, probably. 01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:52.800 Well, 150 years if you look at the whole history. 01:50:52.800 --> 01:51:08.800 People have been in the '30s were showing that their experiments showed clear entrance of large molecules right into the cell in large quantities. 01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:20.800 Albumin was repeatedly seen to massively enter cells of all different types and carry with it whatever it carried. 01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:36.800 But immunoglobulin, several iron-transporting proteins, a whole range of our normal proteins just zip in and out of cells freely. 01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:44.800 So the membrane is not very relevant to actual cell physiology. 01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:55.800 If you want to look at some of the mainstream research, Fritjof Sjostrand, S-J-O-S-T-R-A-N-D, 01:51:55.800 --> 01:52:05.800 who was a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, for many years, founded the Journal of Ultrastructure Research 01:52:05.800 --> 01:52:11.800 and was the chief editor for about, I guess, 30 or 40 years. 01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:31.800 His work pretty much all by itself made the conventional ideas about plasma membranes on the outside of the cell, mitochondrial membranes, mitochondrial function. 01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:41.800 His work is just completely incompatible with the doctrine that is so popular. 01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:48.800 Well, that's interesting stuff. Definitely not something I'm too up on, but it's good stuff for everyone to listen to. 01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:53.800 So I don't have any more questions. I know people are sending me questions. I only have so much time, guys. 01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:57.800 And some of the questions I don't feel appropriate. At the same time, send me your questions. 01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:03.800 I've definitely answered in past shows, and I'm not going to sit here and, unfortunately, ask the same questions over and over again. 01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:07.800 It's just not something I feel comfortable doing. 01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:10.800 So I thank you, Ray, for this great show and this year. 01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:16.800 I know everyone, like we keep saying, really listens to your shows, thousands of people. 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:25.800 They really appreciate your work. I know you probably hear it a lot, but we just want to say thank you because it's been a great year. 01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:28.800 Taking the time to share all this info has helped a lot of people. 01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:31.800 Okay, and thank you for sharing it. 01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:32.800 Thank you, Ray. Have a good day. 01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:33.800 Okay, bye. 01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:35.800 Bye. 01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:42.800 So there you go, guys. Dr. Ray Peat once again, the most humble man I've ever talked to in my life. 01:53:42.800 --> 01:53:46.800 It's a great show. Listen to it again and again. Listen to all the other shows. 01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:52.800 I know you have a lot of questions. A lot of your questions were asked in a lot of the old shows. 01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:56.800 Definitely tune in for more shows in the new year. I'm going to send them out to Ray. 01:53:56.800 --> 01:54:00.800 And like I've said, I know tons of people are emailing him. 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:05.800 Make sure you have to understand that, of course, he's a technical guy. 01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:12.800 So if you're sending him questions that are very basic, I know a lot of the times, like he said, you can get a lot of this information from his articles. 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:19.800 But if you are consistently emailing him, make sure, like I said, whether it's $1, $5, $10, whatever it is, it adds up. 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:25.800 Send him a card. Send him $5, $10, $100 if you want to, to say thanks. 01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:29.800 Thanks for all the email questions, Merry Christmas, or whatever you want to send. 01:54:29.800 --> 01:54:34.800 And that's something that I think is very appropriate for what's been going on. 01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:40.800 So I thank all our listeners for tuning in to all the shows. 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