WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.320 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:00:02.320 --> 00:00:06.480 To Get Fit with Jodelle podcast, I am, as usual, Jodelle. 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:09.960 And I value and respect Dr. Peat as he has generously 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:11.640 come back on the podcast. 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:13.600 And every time I get to talk to you, Dr. Peat, 00:00:13.600 --> 00:00:15.480 I'm like a kid in the candy store. 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.600 I just can't wait to see what kind of nuggets of goodness 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:21.120 you're going to teach me today and teach our listeners too. 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:23.000 So thank you so much for coming back on. 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.000 Well, I really want to pick your brain on the topic 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.720 that everybody's thoughts are on today. 00:00:26.720 --> 00:00:30.080 Obviously, COVID-19 is what everybody's kind of focused on 00:00:30.080 --> 00:00:31.000 right now. 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.320 And then I've got some listener questions as well. 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:36.600 So I hope we have time to get to those too. 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.840 So if you're ready, let's begin, OK? 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:40.480 All right. 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:43.240 All right, so let's first hear your thoughts 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.640 on coronavirus, this novel strain of it. 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.320 What are your thoughts on this? 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:55.520 I've been looking for any information I can get on it. 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:01.920 I've run across several well-known, prominent, 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:08.720 influential virologists who the media are totally ignoring. 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:14.120 But they have information on the internet that you can find. 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:23.120 And I was wondering what evidence is there 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.600 that it's such a dangerous strain, 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:33.120 because there haven't been any published numbers that 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.520 made it look like anything out of the ordinary. 00:01:36.520 --> 00:01:42.720 For example, in the United States, from all causes, 00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:48.400 the total annual death rate is, I think, 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:54.560 2,700,000, 2,800,000, something like that, 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.920 approaching 3 million per year dying, 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:01.280 which if you think of the population as more than 300 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.880 million, that's less than 1%. 00:02:06.880 --> 00:02:11.160 And since we don't live 100 years on average, 00:02:11.160 --> 00:02:15.960 that means that the population is skewed towards old people. 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:21.520 It's bent towards young people, away from old people. 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:27.480 So the longevity looks artificially long, 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:32.360 like we're averaging more than 100 years lifespan. 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:38.400 But despite this odd population, you look 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:44.280 at the number of people dying in any four-month period 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.880 about the length of a typical flu season. 00:02:47.880 --> 00:02:53.880 That comes out to about 900,000 deaths from all causes 00:02:53.880 --> 00:02:56.320 in a period of four months. 00:02:56.320 --> 00:03:02.160 And in a typical year, the average dying from flu 00:03:02.160 --> 00:03:06.000 is less than 10% of all causes. 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.400 The highest year, according to the CDC, 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:16.560 was in 2017 to '18, with more than 60,000 people dying 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:21.040 of flu-like infections. 00:03:21.040 --> 00:03:28.000 And historically, any year that they 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:33.880 looked for the components of those flu-like infections, 00:03:33.880 --> 00:03:42.080 about half of the people with influenza or symptoms 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:48.480 like that, half of them no pathogen has been identified. 00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:53.600 But the most common pathogens are 00:03:53.600 --> 00:04:00.360 the respiratory syncytial virus and the common cold rhinovirus. 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.080 And previously, the coronavirus, which 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:10.080 is about 10% of those people with flu infections, 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:17.680 whereas rhinovirus, I think, is about 30% of the flu infections. 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:22.120 And so historically, lots of people 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:29.080 are dying from flu, apparently caused by rhinovirus, 00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:30.840 common cold virus. 00:04:30.840 --> 00:04:33.120 And the coronavirus, historically, 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:39.280 has been considered a major cause of the common cold. 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:46.960 So it has been considered just a mild, almost harmless virus. 00:04:46.960 --> 00:04:56.440 But the proportion of the flu infections 00:04:56.440 --> 00:05:01.800 caused by coronavirus varies from 5% to 15%. 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:07.440 So if you look at an average being around 10% 00:05:07.440 --> 00:05:12.840 of the, say, 60,000 flu deaths per year, 00:05:12.840 --> 00:05:17.440 that means an ordinary annual death 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:22.160 from coronavirus-related flu in the United States 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:26.840 would be from 4,000 to 6,000 people, just an ordinary year. 00:05:26.840 --> 00:05:31.760 And so far, we're towards the end of the usual flu season. 00:05:31.760 --> 00:05:36.280 Yesterday, I think, was 1,100 deaths in the United States. 00:05:36.280 --> 00:05:41.120 So we're way below a normal death rate 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.320 from coronavirus-related flu. 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:48.280 So I can't see what the excitement is. 00:05:48.280 --> 00:05:49.800 I'm so glad to hear you say that, 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.880 because why is no one talking about the fact that every year, 00:05:53.880 --> 00:05:58.760 1.25 million people die from traffic accidents? 00:05:58.760 --> 00:06:01.720 More people die in a year from texting and driving, 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.120 probably, or just traffic accidents in general, 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.680 than there are people dying from colds and flus. 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:13.800 Yeah, and gunshot deaths in the United States 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:19.200 ranked right up with traffic accidents, 35,000. 00:06:19.200 --> 00:06:21.680 So in your opinion, then, do you personally 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:24.600 think there is any conspiracy theories that 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.320 are worth entertaining with regard to this pandemic, 00:06:27.320 --> 00:06:28.800 or no? 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:37.440 Oh, definitely, since I can't see any rational justification, 00:06:37.440 --> 00:06:42.920 the most rational thing, I watched the Democrat primary 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:47.160 debate between Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.760 And you could see that they were rushing 00:06:50.760 --> 00:07:00.520 to be prepared by calling for extreme crisis measures 00:07:00.520 --> 00:07:08.120 against the flu while Trump was saying, it's nothing special. 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:09.880 Don't get excited. 00:07:09.880 --> 00:07:16.960 They were hoping that there would be enough of a panic 00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:22.680 that they could get credit for being more panic-promoting 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:26.920 than their opposition. 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:32.920 So it looked like politicians were in competition 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.560 to see who could be most panicked. 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:47.080 For many years, I've been following the progress 00:07:47.080 --> 00:07:49.800 of germ warfare research. 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:56.280 And just in 2015, in Nature Magazine, 00:07:56.280 --> 00:07:59.840 one of the world's biggest science magazines, 00:07:59.840 --> 00:08:04.720 there was a news story about the creation 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:11.640 of pathogenic coronaviruses at the National 00:08:11.640 --> 00:08:17.920 Laboratory at Fort Detrick under the sponsorship of CDC. 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:27.680 And the editors just a few weeks ago inserted a note right 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.400 under the title of that news item saying, 00:08:30.400 --> 00:08:34.640 this is recently being cited as a possible source 00:08:34.640 --> 00:08:37.280 of the corona flu epidemic. 00:08:37.280 --> 00:08:42.520 And the editors were saying, I don't believe that. 00:08:42.520 --> 00:08:46.040 But the fact is, the news was reporting 00:08:46.040 --> 00:08:49.600 that the researchers for the government 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.720 were developing pathogenic varieties 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:59.840 for the purpose of creating a vaccine ahead 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:06.160 of the appearance of a similar pathogen in nature. 00:09:06.160 --> 00:09:11.040 And then last summer, the CDC closed down that lab 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:14.720 because they were not taking proper precautions 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:20.800 against the escape of pathogens into the environment. 00:09:20.800 --> 00:09:29.160 So an accidental release seems like a very likely explanation 00:09:29.160 --> 00:09:32.920 for this particular pathogen. 00:09:32.920 --> 00:09:37.120 Except immediately, government-connected 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:42.920 virologists rushed into print explaining 00:09:42.920 --> 00:09:47.880 why it would be impossible for the lab 00:09:47.880 --> 00:09:52.840 to have created this particular pathogen. 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:59.120 I think my personal experience with that lab-- 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:05.680 I was teaching a course in 1969, or maybe early '70. 00:10:05.680 --> 00:10:12.760 I had taken some courses in virus-related molecular 00:10:12.760 --> 00:10:18.000 biology, supposedly the latest stuff. 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:28.880 And at that time, the HIV surface antigens 00:10:28.880 --> 00:10:34.480 that are involved in the infectivity of the HIV virus 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.120 had not been published. 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.680 That came out in '71. 00:10:38.680 --> 00:10:43.920 But a person came that didn't sign up for my course, 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:46.640 but he stayed for the first class. 00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:50.400 And after everyone left, he stayed 00:10:50.400 --> 00:10:54.440 and said that basically he just wanted to talk to someone. 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:59.600 He had recently quit his job at the Fort Detrick lab, 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:08.160 he said, because he ethically felt it was something he 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:09.640 didn't want to be connected with. 00:11:09.640 --> 00:11:15.440 He said they were working on the design of an ethnic 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:19.520 or racially specific virus. 00:11:19.520 --> 00:11:24.640 And since that didn't seem plausible in terms 00:11:24.640 --> 00:11:29.480 of the coursework that I was currently taking, 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:33.040 I didn't know how seriously to take him. 00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:37.960 But he seemed very depressed and didn't 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:42.400 know what to do with his life, because he thought people 00:11:42.400 --> 00:11:48.200 should know about what he thought was a very dangerous policy 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.640 going on. 00:11:50.640 --> 00:11:55.040 Anyway, just a couple years later, 00:11:55.040 --> 00:11:59.000 papers were published by people at that lab 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:05.520 showing that there were antigens on the surface of white blood 00:12:05.520 --> 00:12:08.560 cells that would make it possible for a virus 00:12:08.560 --> 00:12:12.000 to be racially selective. 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.600 Wow, I didn't even think about that. 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.120 That's unbelievable. 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:19.520 What are your thoughts on the fact 00:12:19.520 --> 00:12:21.840 that the governments around the world 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.600 are also rolling out 5G technology at this time? 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.880 At the same time that coronavirus is a pandemic, 00:12:28.880 --> 00:12:32.440 there's a lot of cities rolling out 5G. 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.240 I don't know if you are familiar with that 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.600 or if you've read much about that. 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:40.400 Do you think there's any correlation with that? 00:12:40.400 --> 00:12:47.440 I've been following the effects of electromagnetic radiation 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.920 since I think it was in 1956. 00:12:51.920 --> 00:12:54.160 My brother was in the Navy. 00:12:54.160 --> 00:12:58.480 And he described someone on his ship 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.040 who had stood in front of the radar too long. 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:08.120 And his brain was basically cooked by the radar. 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:12.480 And that led to research showing that a monkey 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:17.960 with a small brain doesn't have any brain damage. 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:23.480 But if the wavelength is similar to the diameter 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:30.600 of a human brain, that frequency will damage that organ, 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:37.000 that there is a resonance in a microwave which 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.760 is similar to radar. 00:13:39.760 --> 00:13:44.400 Certain substances will heat much faster than others. 00:13:44.400 --> 00:13:47.320 That's because of a resonance of the molecule. 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.360 But there's also a resonance of organs 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:53.160 according to the size of their chamber. 00:13:53.160 --> 00:14:01.640 The spleen is enclosed in a membrane. 00:14:01.640 --> 00:14:04.200 The brain is surrounded by membranes. 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:10.160 And it electrically forms a kind of analogous to an antenna 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:13.480 that resonates to particular wavelengths. 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:19.960 And just hearing those stories in the 1950s about what radar 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:25.520 does got me interested in paying attention over the years 00:14:25.520 --> 00:14:31.800 to what the cell phones are doing with the wavelength. 00:14:31.800 --> 00:14:39.720 Some of them analogous to the diameter of the gonads, 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:44.240 or the brain, for example, or the eyeball. 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:49.520 And it's now known that cell phones 00:14:49.520 --> 00:14:53.400 do terrific damage to the gonads if they're 00:14:53.400 --> 00:14:59.440 carried in a pocket, for example, of the pants. 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.040 Yeah, and I had read something that 00:15:01.040 --> 00:15:04.800 was talking about the symptoms of COVID-19 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:07.000 are very similar to the symptoms that people 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:10.440 have felt with exposure to 5G technology, 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:14.040 such as one of the initial symptoms being loss of smell. 00:15:14.040 --> 00:15:17.240 Both of those are correlated together. 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:18.700 So I just found that interesting. 00:15:18.700 --> 00:15:21.520 And I wanted to see if you knew any correlation with that 00:15:21.520 --> 00:15:22.000 at all. 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:30.720 I've been studying the inflammatory system for a long 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.800 time. 00:15:31.800 --> 00:15:35.600 And in recent years, I've been paying attention 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.120 to the angiotensin system, which used 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:44.600 to be thought of as exclusively a matter of blood pressure 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.240 regulation. 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:49.120 And for many years, there have been drugs 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:54.840 to block angiotensin, reduce its formation, 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:57.220 to lower blood pressure. 00:15:57.220 --> 00:16:00.440 But it happens that angiotensin is 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:07.040 one of the things at the very root of the inflammatory process. 00:16:07.040 --> 00:16:12.320 And the inflammation of various types 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:18.920 can damage, for example, the olfactory nerves. 00:16:18.920 --> 00:16:27.000 That is a very sensitive part of the nervous system. 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:33.240 The Greeks considered the olfactory sense 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:39.280 to be--it's a pun--essential: understanding 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:42.720 the essence of things. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:52.960 Their smell is an intrinsic way of grasping 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:59.920 their real being, which chemists for many years 00:16:59.920 --> 00:17:05.120 have known that they can analyze chemicals 00:17:05.120 --> 00:17:08.360 by their nose better than machines 00:17:08.360 --> 00:17:12.920 had been able to until just a few years ago. 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:19.320 So the olfactory system fails under many different kinds 00:17:19.320 --> 00:17:22.920 of stress or aging or poisoning. 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.520 But the inflammatory system is one 00:17:27.520 --> 00:17:33.960 of the basic routes in the cell damage. 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:42.160 And this virus attacks as a so-called receptor. 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:50.800 How it causes its damage is by binding to the ACE enzyme. 00:17:50.800 --> 00:17:58.080 ACE2 is one of the enzymes in the angiotensin blood pressure 00:17:58.080 --> 00:18:00.560 regulating system. 00:18:00.560 --> 00:18:07.440 But the enzyme that binds to ACE2 rather than ACE1 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:12.040 is the enzyme that destroys angiotensin. 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:18.280 The angiotensin is the mediator of inflammation 00:18:18.280 --> 00:18:24.920 that will damage your particular type of cells. 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:30.520 And ACE2, by destroying angiotensin, 00:18:30.520 --> 00:18:34.480 protects against not only high blood pressure, 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.440 but all types of inflammation that is being studied 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:43.840 in relation to rheumatoid arthritis, degenerative 00:18:43.840 --> 00:18:51.840 osteoporosis, dementia, kidney and heart failure, 00:18:51.840 --> 00:18:57.080 especially lung fibrosis. 00:18:57.080 --> 00:19:01.200 The pulmonary arterial hypertension 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:08.080 is an inflammatory process in the lungs, very highly 00:19:08.080 --> 00:19:10.440 influenced by angiotensin. 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:16.480 And so the lung damage caused by the virus 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:21.560 is caused because it's knocking out our anti-angiotensin 00:19:21.560 --> 00:19:22.060 enzyme. 00:19:22.060 --> 00:19:30.480 So the logical approach to treating it 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:39.680 is to promote, to restore, that anti-angiotensin enzyme. 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:44.400 And all of the common anti-inflammatory things, 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:50.960 including the angiotensin receptor blockers and vitamin 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:59.920 B1 and aspirin, and I think the T3 part of thyroid, 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:09.240 progesterone, and several of the angiotensin receptor blockers, 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:16.200 all help to increase the production of the ACE2 enzyme 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:19.760 that is knocked out by the virus. 00:20:19.760 --> 00:20:22.720 The virus lowers the availability of it, 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.280 and these anti-inflammatory things 00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:28.640 restore the anti-inflammatory enzyme. 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:32.080 So even if the virus is there and you 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:36.560 can produce more of the protective ACE2 enzyme, 00:20:36.560 --> 00:20:38.680 then you're OK. 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:40.360 Well, you beat me to my next question 00:20:40.360 --> 00:20:42.280 because I was actually going to say, 00:20:42.280 --> 00:20:45.120 for those who are really worried about this COVID-19, 00:20:45.120 --> 00:20:48.000 what would be some ways of prevention 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.800 but you mentioned the aspirin and the progesterone 00:20:50.800 --> 00:20:52.000 and things like that? 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.520 What about your thoughts on methylene blue? 00:20:54.520 --> 00:20:58.600 Because isn't methylene blue similar to this chloroquine? 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:00.440 Doesn't it kind of hit the same receptors? 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.320 Am I understanding that correctly? 00:21:03.320 --> 00:21:08.120 Well, it works by keeping your nitric oxide down. 00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:12.360 Nitric oxide is turned on by an angiotensin, 00:21:12.360 --> 00:21:17.680 so it works in at least part of the inflammatory system. 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.680 It's a toxic system, and it also helps 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:26.280 to maintain mitochondrial energy production. 00:21:26.280 --> 00:21:31.160 And the failure of energy is at the deepest level 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.200 of the inflammatory degenerative process, 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.000 so it's doing two things. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.800 But I haven't had any feedback from people who have tried it. 00:21:40.800 --> 00:21:45.760 I have heard a couple of weeks ago a person in Italy 00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:50.240 said his friend was very sick in bed, 00:21:50.240 --> 00:22:00.600 sleeping 21 hours a day and groggy but definitely very sick 00:22:00.600 --> 00:22:02.640 and wondered what might help. 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.960 I mentioned the Chinese research on losartan, 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:12.840 an angiotensin receptor blocker, and the next day he said 00:22:12.840 --> 00:22:16.600 he had rushed out and got a 50-milligram tablet of it, 00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:20.640 gave it to his friend, and he said his friend was already 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.400 out of bed and feeling OK. 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.120 And then several days later, he wrote again 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:29.880 and said his friend is exuberantly healthy 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:32.280 and feels like he has new lungs. 00:22:32.280 --> 00:22:33.280 Wow, that's awesome. 00:22:33.280 --> 00:22:38.440 I would stay with vitamin D. Vitamin D 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:46.000 is known for quite a few years as a very reliable antiviral 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.960 anti-infective, but it also increases 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.360 this anti-inflammatory enzyme, along with progesterone, 00:22:55.360 --> 00:23:03.400 aspirin, thiamine, and the anti-serotonin drugs. 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.760 That was the other best-documented Chinese 00:23:07.760 --> 00:23:09.000 research. 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:13.800 They were using an anti-serotonin receptor 00:23:13.800 --> 00:23:20.200 blocker called cinanserin, C-I-N-A-N-S-E-R-I-N, 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:25.120 and having good results, along with losartan. 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:26.000 Interesting. 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.000 OK, great. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:29.960 I'll go into some of the listener questions. 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.120 We only had actually one about coronavirus, 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:35.200 and then the rest are all other questions. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.760 But Dan asks, can you ask Dr. Peat 00:23:37.760 --> 00:23:40.720 about the importance of white sugar and immunity 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.720 and how it works to keep us protected 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:46.920 against COVID and other viruses? 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:51.240 It has a definite anti-inflammatory effect 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:57.520 by keeping the T3 thyroid hormone. 00:23:57.520 --> 00:24:03.720 You need glucose inside the liver cells or other cells 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.560 which are producing the active thyroid hormone. 00:24:07.560 --> 00:24:12.280 And if you are under stress, you are 00:24:12.280 --> 00:24:18.240 likely to be liberating free fatty acids from your tissues 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.160 that will tend to block the use of glucose, 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.840 and that will put you in a diabetic pro-inflammatory 00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:27.960 condition. 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.960 And increasing your sugar intake is 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.880 one of the things that can prevent that lipolysis, keep 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.120 the fat in your tissues where it belongs, 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:41.960 instead of flooding the bloodstream 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:46.440 and blocking sugar use and so blocking 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.960 production of the active thyroid hormone. 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:54.920 And the thyroid T3 has a very long history 00:24:54.920 --> 00:25:00.760 of reversing fibrosis along with progesterone. 00:25:00.760 --> 00:25:04.480 And for example, they would produce fibrosis 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:10.000 in the heart of rats and then give them an extra T3 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:16.040 and so that they could actually reverse the heart fibrosis 00:25:16.040 --> 00:25:21.560 by giving them a prolonged T3 treatment. 00:25:21.560 --> 00:25:30.120 And fibrosis of the lungs is the almost consistent outcome 00:25:30.120 --> 00:25:36.040 of a serious infection by the coronavirus. 00:25:36.040 --> 00:25:38.120 Excellent. 00:25:38.120 --> 00:25:40.120 As far as I have a question, too, 00:25:40.120 --> 00:25:42.680 still regarding coronavirus, what 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:46.440 about the benefits of keeping carbon dioxide levels adequate, 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.120 like even doing some bag breathing during this time 00:25:49.120 --> 00:25:51.600 just to keep that level elevated as opposed 00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:54.600 to like a lot of oxygen? 00:25:54.600 --> 00:25:59.000 Yeah, that's extremely important because people 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.440 have been demonstrating for years 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:08.320 that the stress of surgery, the inflammation, 00:26:08.320 --> 00:26:13.320 the systemic inflammation that's produced by, for example, 00:26:13.320 --> 00:26:17.520 operating on your gallbladder or intestine or whatever 00:26:17.520 --> 00:26:22.760 causes inflammation in your heart and brain and lungs, 00:26:22.760 --> 00:26:25.720 all of your organs. 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:34.320 By hypoventilating, giving them less turnover of air 00:26:34.320 --> 00:26:37.600 in their lungs during the surgery, 00:26:37.600 --> 00:26:43.000 they protect the lungs, but also the whole systemic inflammation 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:48.440 is reduced by keeping the carbon dioxide level higher. 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:55.280 And that is something that I suspect probably 95% 00:26:55.280 --> 00:27:00.960 of hospitals are still failing to use carbogen, which 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.520 has been known since the 1930s when Yandell Henderson showed 00:27:06.520 --> 00:27:12.640 that fire departments using oxygen for resuscitation 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.840 had consistently better results when 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:20.720 they use either 5% or 7% carbon dioxide added 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:26.880 to their oxygen tanks because the anti-inflammatory 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:32.200 and breath-stimulating and oxygen-delivering effect 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.360 of carbon dioxide is much better than when 00:27:36.360 --> 00:27:44.280 you force the CO2 level down by giving them pure oxygen or even 00:27:44.280 --> 00:27:49.360 increased oxygen to 50% or 60%, like is very typically done 00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:51.080 in a ventilator. 00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:57.240 That high excess of oxygen is lowering 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.920 the amount of CO2 circulating in your blood, 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.640 increasing inflammatory reactions exactly what 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.440 a person with an influenza doesn't need. 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.520 OK, I'm so glad we're talking about this. 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:16.360 I hope people are listening and they're paying attention. 00:28:16.360 --> 00:28:20.000 Now, we'll jump into some just basic listener questions. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.280 I have a gal named Sandra who has asked several here. 00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:25.680 So we'll start with her first one. 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.280 After a terrible experience with Invisalign, 00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:31.080 where the trays, they kind of shape her teeth, 00:28:31.080 --> 00:28:33.080 where my trays are often coated with goop 00:28:33.080 --> 00:28:35.120 when I pulled them out and tartar was awful, 00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:37.720 I stopped wearing the trays and I no longer 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.840 care about moving my teeth back. 00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:42.240 I'm left with terrible excess saliva 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.000 that seems to be thicker than normal, 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.520 and this leaves me constantly having to suck my teeth, which 00:28:46.520 --> 00:28:48.120 is super aggravating. 00:28:48.120 --> 00:28:51.600 It has improved slightly since I stopped wearing the trays, 00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:53.080 but it's still bothersome. 00:28:53.080 --> 00:28:55.760 So any help with this would be greatly appreciated. 00:28:55.760 --> 00:29:00.240 What does she have to do for excess saliva? 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.160 Oh, sometimes a low thyroid function 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.800 will imbalance your nervous system slightly 00:29:09.800 --> 00:29:14.440 towards the parasympathetic side, which 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.000 can produce extra saliva. 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.000 But a lot of other things could be involved. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.640 It would be good to check for temperature and pulse rate 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.400 at waking and in the middle of the day to see 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.320 how her thyroid function is. 00:29:35.320 --> 00:29:37.520 Yeah, she had another question, actually, 00:29:37.520 --> 00:29:40.720 that goes right along with what you just said. 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.920 She said a recent study came out about body temperature going 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.760 down approximately 1%. 00:29:46.760 --> 00:29:48.360 Should that be a concern? 00:29:48.360 --> 00:29:50.760 And I actually-- I think I found the study 00:29:50.760 --> 00:29:53.760 she might have been referencing in Scientific American, 00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:56.120 like that human body temperatures are actually 00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:56.980 cooling down. 00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.600 What do you have to say about that? 00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:03.800 Oh, yeah. 00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:07.840 Writing in the 1960s, Broda Barnes 00:30:07.840 --> 00:30:15.720 commented that he was seeing much more hypothyroidism 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:22.720 than he had seen when he started his studies in the 1930s. 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:33.680 And the typical food supply, when people ate fish or poultry 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:38.400 or beef or pork, they were likely to be including 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.160 some of the thyroid gland in their diet. 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:47.040 Beef and pork thyroids were thrown into the sausages. 00:30:47.040 --> 00:30:51.440 And the chicken necks and fish heads 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.520 were always used in the soup. 00:30:54.520 --> 00:31:00.800 But starting around 1942, the US Department of Agriculture 00:31:00.800 --> 00:31:06.080 ordered meat producers to remove the thyroid gland 00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:11.360 from the meat sold to the public and to either put it 00:31:11.360 --> 00:31:16.040 in dog food or sell it to the pharmaceutical companies 00:31:16.040 --> 00:31:18.160 to make pills with. 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:23.720 So starting in the 1940s, people were no longer 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.920 eating their normal diet if they were omnivores. 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.520 They were continuing to eat anti-thyroid foods 00:31:32.520 --> 00:31:37.440 without the balancing actual supplement of thyroid tissue 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.280 in their diet. 00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:43.360 And at the same time, the increased use 00:31:43.360 --> 00:31:50.800 of liquid oils as shortening instead of lard and butter, 00:31:50.800 --> 00:31:59.400 people were propagandized as to add corn oil, soy oil, 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:09.640 safflower, seed oil, and later canola, and so on. 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.040 The reason for that was that these were otherwise 00:32:15.040 --> 00:32:20.320 waste by-products, or they were used in the paint industry. 00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:22.920 And the paint industry no longer had the need for them. 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.880 So they propagandized the public to believe 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.760 that they were health foods, and those 00:32:30.760 --> 00:32:34.960 are the most powerful anti-thyroid 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:41.080 pro-estrogenic food additives that we're exposed to. 00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:46.880 And their known effect is to lower the metabolic rate 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.840 and therefore the resting temperature. 00:32:50.840 --> 00:32:53.480 Yeah, this body temperature thing I looked up 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:57.840 said something about because of even the clothing that we wear 00:32:57.840 --> 00:33:00.920 and the way we live more of a sedentary life 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.560 that it's slowing down our body temperature, or lowering 00:33:03.560 --> 00:33:06.560 our body temperature as well. 00:33:06.560 --> 00:33:11.880 The muscle activity changes our hormone balance 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:15.800 when the muscles are inactive, our balance 00:33:15.800 --> 00:33:19.160 between cortisol, glucocorticoids, 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:24.480 and the androgens such as DHEA and testosterone 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.520 shifts in the direction of these stress hormones, 00:33:28.520 --> 00:33:34.760 further weakening our muscles and blocking our good metabolism 00:33:34.760 --> 00:33:37.600 based on thyroid. 00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:40.000 So her next question is, electric cars. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.440 Any danger from driving around in them all day 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:43.640 in Dr. Peat's opinion? 00:33:46.840 --> 00:33:52.760 There were studies of people who worked in the clothing industry 00:33:52.760 --> 00:33:56.000 and operated an electric sewing machine 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.120 for their whole career. 00:33:58.120 --> 00:34:03.160 And they had several times the normal incidence 00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.200 of Alzheimer's disease after years 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.240 of sitting at an electric sewing machine. 00:34:09.240 --> 00:34:14.280 And I imagine an electric car has fields at least as strong 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.360 as an electric sewing machine. 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:16.920 Oh, for sure. 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:18.960 I mean, I think some of the new cars coming out 00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.320 are going to be 5G compatible, too. 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.040 So then you've got 5G on top of just the electric car itself, 00:34:26.040 --> 00:34:28.920 so-- 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:32.320 You know, in 1968, I had been reading 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:38.080 about the influence of electromagnetic fields 00:34:38.080 --> 00:34:39.920 on the nervous system. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.160 I hadn't started graduate school yet, 00:34:43.160 --> 00:34:46.160 but I had been studying that for years. 00:34:46.160 --> 00:34:52.160 And a man in Moscow had been doing the best research 00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:56.200 on that, so I went there to talk to him in the summer of '68. 00:34:56.200 --> 00:35:00.080 And he gave me a very good bibliography 00:35:00.080 --> 00:35:04.040 on the effects of electromagnetic fields 00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:08.400 on both the nervous system and the gonads. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.480 He found that those were the most likely to be damaged 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:18.520 by otherwise invisible and seemingly harmless 00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:20.760 electromagnetic fields. 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.640 Yeah, not something you want to mess with. 00:35:22.640 --> 00:35:24.000 You don't want to mess with the gonads. 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.640 OK, the next question. 00:35:29.640 --> 00:35:31.720 About coffee, does quality matter? 00:35:31.720 --> 00:35:36.640 Does decaf have any issues, or is it just as beneficial? 00:35:36.640 --> 00:35:42.840 Oh, there is still some good stuff in decaffeinated coffee. 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:49.120 But I think the main value of coffee is the caffeine. 00:35:49.120 --> 00:35:53.720 When black tea and coffee have been compared, 00:35:53.720 --> 00:35:58.560 it turned out to be the caffeine that made them equally 00:35:58.560 --> 00:35:59.040 valuable. 00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:11.360 Before the liquid carbon dioxide method 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.280 had been used for removing the caffeine, 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.560 they were using toxic solvents. 00:36:16.560 --> 00:36:20.360 And so some of the older studies showed a positively dangerous 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.240 effect of decaf. 00:36:22.240 --> 00:36:28.560 But about 15 or 20 years ago, all of the standard decaffeinated 00:36:28.560 --> 00:36:35.200 coffees were using the safer carbon dioxide method. 00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:38.400 And as far as the-- you still get the magnesium benefits 00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.200 in decaf as well, correct? 00:36:41.200 --> 00:36:47.800 Yeah, the magnesium, some of the vitamins and anti-inflammatory 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:53.240 things like chlorogenic acid are still in the decaf. 00:36:53.240 --> 00:36:55.120 You've got to love our coffee, that's for sure. 00:36:55.120 --> 00:36:57.800 OK, so her last question here. 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.520 Can you explain what causes and possible remedy 00:37:00.520 --> 00:37:02.160 for lipedema? 00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:04.120 Such a sad thing to deal with for a lot of people. 00:37:04.120 --> 00:37:05.760 I guess she has a friend with lipedema. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.200 And this is becoming more prevalent. 00:37:10.200 --> 00:37:14.920 Referring to the-- 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.160 Or lipedema, I might be saying it wrong. 00:37:17.160 --> 00:37:18.360 But lipedema-- 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:23.040 Well, triglycerides, or cholesterol, or both, 00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:23.880 or all of those. 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.200 Yeah, both in general. 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:27.880 When I looked it up, I noticed that in a lot 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:33.000 of different cases, it was becoming more prevalent. 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.000 The cholesterol directly corresponds 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.360 to your metabolic rate. 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:45.800 And so, inversely, proportional to your thyroid hormone 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:52.880 activity, the cholesterol level goes up with your TSH 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.920 as your metabolic rate goes down. 00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:02.800 And so I've seen people lower their cholesterol level 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:09.120 from the 400s down to the normal range in as little as a week 00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:12.440 by supplementing T3 carefully. 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.400 But that's been known for 80 years 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:21.600 that you can predictably, controllably normalize 00:38:21.600 --> 00:38:23.080 your cholesterol. 00:38:23.080 --> 00:38:27.680 And that usually takes care of the triglycerides. 00:38:27.680 --> 00:38:34.000 But if the triglycerides are associated 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:39.760 with a diet that isn't heavy on the polyunsaturated fats, 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:46.840 the triglyceride itself isn't harmful and, in fact, it's better 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.840 than free fatty acids. 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.880 When you're converting free fatty acids to triglycerides, 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.600 that's a defensive reaction. 00:38:57.600 --> 00:39:00.960 And the triglycerides in themselves 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.440 don't hurt your heart, and they're 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:11.520 valuable as a sign that you're under stress for some reason. 00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:14.760 Anything you do to lower your stress 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.560 can lower the triglycerides. 00:39:17.560 --> 00:39:19.440 So for those who don't know, lipedema 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.160 is a disorder where there is the enlargement of both legs. 00:39:23.160 --> 00:39:25.600 You gain fatty deposits under the skin. 00:39:25.600 --> 00:39:28.880 And a lot of people say that's not known why. 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.160 There's no understanding of what the mechanism is behind it. 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:34.560 But do you have an idea of what that mechanism is? 00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:38.040 I mean, is it a cholesterol and a triglyceride or a fatty acid 00:39:38.040 --> 00:39:40.200 issue, or is there something that's causing it 00:39:40.200 --> 00:39:42.800 that the person is doing? 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.680 When you get the lumps under your skin, 00:39:46.680 --> 00:39:51.520 I think that's primarily the triglycerides that 00:39:51.520 --> 00:39:54.280 associate with that. 00:39:54.280 --> 00:40:01.640 But I've seen people correcting their thyroid function 00:40:01.640 --> 00:40:06.200 who got rid of their under-the-skin lumps. 00:40:06.200 --> 00:40:06.800 OK, good. 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.720 Yeah, that's something they should look into. 00:40:08.720 --> 00:40:11.560 And even if the blood tests don't reveal that there's 00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:14.280 anything wrong, even if symptoms show up, 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:15.840 I'm of the impression that if you 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.080 have all of the symptoms of hypothyroidism or a body 00:40:21.080 --> 00:40:23.640 issue like that going on, where obviously there's 00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:25.600 something going on with the thyroid, 00:40:25.600 --> 00:40:27.760 you definitely would benefit, regardless 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.400 of what the blood work says, to take some natural, 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:31.320 desiccated thyroid. 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.600 Would you agree? 00:40:33.600 --> 00:40:39.800 Yeah, Broda Barnes' books are the best science 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.680 on the issue that's available without doing 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:46.960 a lot of searching in the literature. 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:52.880 The medical profession has been indoctrinated now for 50 years 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:59.520 to believe that they should pay attention to the TSH, Thyroid 00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:05.920 Stimulating Hormone, as the only basis for diagnosing 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.200 hypo- or hyperthyroidism. 00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:14.480 But they neglect the fact that stress hormones can 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:25.000 change the TSH level, unless you measure all of the stress-related 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.840 hormones, as well as some of the physiological indicators, 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.600 such as nerve conduction. 00:41:32.600 --> 00:41:38.760 The TSH itself can't be meaningfully interpreted. 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:46.160 People can have hypothyroidism functionally 00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:51.480 with high cholesterol, blood sugar regulation problems, 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.080 easy infections, and so on, and still 00:41:55.080 --> 00:42:00.080 have low TSH if they're heavily under stress, 00:42:00.080 --> 00:42:06.240 because the stress hormones will interfere and artificially 00:42:06.240 --> 00:42:09.440 lower the TSH, making it look like you 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.400 have too much thyroid hormone when you don't have enough. 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.600 It's interesting because doctors are usually 00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:18.840 so quick to put people on medication, 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.760 except for thyroid medication. 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.680 They always have this big range that you can fit in 00:42:24.680 --> 00:42:26.960 so that you don't have to take thyroid medication. 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.320 And that's interesting to me, because it's almost 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.600 as if the medical system might know how powerful thyroid 00:42:32.600 --> 00:42:35.400 medication is, that they don't want to give it to them, 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.680 because it may get rid of all the other symptoms 00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:39.720 that they're putting them on medications for. 00:42:39.720 --> 00:42:44.920 Yeah, that's a conspiracy theory, 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:53.280 that if you look at the facts, it's hard to think otherwise. 00:42:53.280 --> 00:43:01.600 Because the fact is that almost any bad condition 00:43:01.600 --> 00:43:05.520 can respond to the correcting supplementing the thyroid 00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:09.360 hormone if your diet is supportive. 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.000 You have to take the diet and the thyroid into account, 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.320 and then you can-- 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.480 hypertension, for example. 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:26.200 I have about 20 articles demonstrating curing 00:43:26.200 --> 00:43:29.360 hypertension just by supplementing thyroid hormone. 00:43:31.600 --> 00:43:34.960 I'm so glad you said the part, too, about thyroid and diet. 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.400 Yes, it's very important that they not just supplement 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.240 with the medication, but also work 00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:44.480 on a better PUFA-free and anti-inflammatory diet as well. 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:50.200 Yeah, and vitamin D works very closely with thyroid. 00:43:50.200 --> 00:43:53.280 And vitamin D doesn't work properly 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:56.200 if you're getting too much phosphate in your diet 00:43:56.200 --> 00:44:00.200 and not enough calcium. 00:44:00.200 --> 00:44:03.840 Karen asks, what are Dr. Peat's thoughts on dosages 00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.160 of 50 milligrams of progesterone? 00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:08.320 Is that too high, or can it be beneficial when 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.640 dealing with excess adrenaline? 00:44:10.640 --> 00:44:19.480 During the luteal phase from ovulation to menstruation of 30 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:27.360 to 40 or 50 milligrams, it is a very physiological range dose. 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.280 But therapeutically, sometimes a woman 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.520 will benefit from much bigger doses 00:44:35.520 --> 00:44:39.120 and sometimes a much smaller dose is all that's needed. 00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:46.080 Another common medical misunderstanding 00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:48.680 is that if you supplement a hormone, 00:44:48.680 --> 00:44:53.360 you're going to turn off your body's ability to produce it. 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.600 That's true of the cortisol. 00:44:56.600 --> 00:44:58.680 But you can shrink your adrenal glands 00:44:58.680 --> 00:45:03.240 by supplementing prednisone or cortisol. 00:45:03.240 --> 00:45:11.200 But in the case of progesterone, if you are feeding blood supply 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:14.000 to an ovary, for example, measuring 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.160 how much progesterone is synthesizing, 00:45:17.160 --> 00:45:23.560 and then you add progesterone to the mix, 00:45:23.560 --> 00:45:27.200 it stimulates the ovary's ability 00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:29.760 to produce progesterone. 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.240 So it becomes more active. 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:38.080 The more progesterone is given, no one 00:45:38.080 --> 00:45:40.240 knows exactly what the limits are. 00:45:40.240 --> 00:45:43.240 But there's a positive feedback relationship. 00:45:43.240 --> 00:45:50.440 So an example, the most vivid thing that I've seen 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.840 was a woman who, since puberty-- 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.200 and she was 30 at that date-- 00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:06.720 since puberty, her skin had been just as white as skin can 00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:08.720 possibly be. 00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:15.280 And her lips, however, were purple without any makeup on. 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.920 She had a very weird appearance, like a porcelain doll 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.120 sort of with painted purple lips. 00:46:24.120 --> 00:46:30.400 And we had been talking one afternoon about progesterone. 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:36.680 And I gave her a blob, probably contained maybe 00:46:36.680 --> 00:46:39.000 50 or 100 milligrams of progesterone, 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.760 but put it on the back of her hand. 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:46.840 So she was only absorbing maybe 5 or 10 milligrams 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:48.720 into her bloodstream. 00:46:48.720 --> 00:46:52.640 And she did that just as she was leaving. 00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:58.880 And a few hours later, she said as she was leaving my driveway, 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:02.200 she felt something odd happening. 00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:05.120 And when she got home, she looked in the mirror. 00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:10.440 And she said, for the first time since she was 13 years old, 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:16.440 she had had a normal looking face, no longer purple lips, 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:21.640 but pink cheeks and a good pink color to her skin. 00:47:21.640 --> 00:47:25.880 And a couple of weeks, or a few weeks after that, 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.800 she went home to visit her parents. 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.840 She said, as she came off the plane, 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:38.480 they both exclaimed on her appearance. 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.760 They said they hadn't seen her looking 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.960 like that since she was 13. 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:50.280 So one dose can profoundly normalize the adrenals, 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.040 other things being adequate. 00:47:53.040 --> 00:47:56.200 So the next question is interesting too. 00:47:56.200 --> 00:47:59.240 Speaking of the skin or topical, Janine 00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:02.560 asks, it's my understanding that endocrine hormones are also 00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:03.760 made in the skin. 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:05.840 Which hormones and how can we improve them? 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.040 Is that accurate in saying that there 00:48:08.040 --> 00:48:12.840 are certain endocrine hormones made in the skin? 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:17.360 Yeah, in 1960, someone was studying tonsils 00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.680 and found that insulin could be identified in the tonsils. 00:48:22.680 --> 00:48:25.520 And people just hadn't been looking. 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:31.680 They didn't expect endocrine functions in different organs. 00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:34.520 But it turns out that the skin even 00:48:34.520 --> 00:48:38.000 can produce the pituitary hormones that 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.920 activate the production of things 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.840 such as cortisol, androgens, progesterone. 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:55.840 The skin is possibly our biggest steroid-producing organ. 00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.880 But it's almost always ignored. 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:03.480 The brain is another major steroid-producing organ. 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:09.240 But it isn't generally considered an endocrine gland. 00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:15.680 But the various protein and peptide hormones 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:20.560 are at least potentially produced in tissues like the skin. 00:49:20.560 --> 00:49:25.080 Victoria asks, what could cause a cyst in the kidneys, 00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:27.640 and how would you recommend getting rid of it? 00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:39.480 Various hormone imbalances can do that. 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:44.240 Getting off polyunsaturated fats in the diet 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:46.800 would be one important thing. 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.960 Making sure your thyroid function is good, 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.640 that your vitamin D level is at least 00:49:55.640 --> 00:50:01.480 in the middle of the range, and that your calcium phosphate 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.120 ratio is good. 00:50:05.120 --> 00:50:14.200 Low thyroid is known to be able to produce fluid accumulations 00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:18.400 in just about any part of the body, including the kidneys. 00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:25.760 But here and there in joints, around the heart, 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.560 a lot of inconvenient places. 00:50:27.560 --> 00:50:33.520 So it's good to consider the possibilities of diet 00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:34.960 and hormones. 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:36.240 One last question. 00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:38.080 This one's kind of detailed. 00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:39.800 So we'll just do our best with it. 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.880 Anne has a question about her health in general. 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.600 So she has severe fatigue, anxiety, and panic. 00:50:46.600 --> 00:50:50.560 She was diagnosed with PCOS at a young age. 00:50:50.560 --> 00:50:53.320 And then it caught up with her in her 30s. 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.880 She went through stress, it said. 00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.320 She's been following your way of eating, no PUFAs, 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.960 and following kind of a peat diet, she says. 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.560 Taking about a grain and a half of thyroid, progesterone, 00:51:05.560 --> 00:51:08.600 magnesium, vitamin E, and still having anxiety and fatigue, 00:51:08.600 --> 00:51:10.840 especially in the morning. 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:16.080 And then she has blood work that says-- oh, go ahead. 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:18.520 Does she mention vitamin D and calcium? 00:51:18.520 --> 00:51:20.600 Yeah, I was going to read her labs to you. 00:51:20.600 --> 00:51:23.600 She said she's got a prolactin of 9.7. 00:51:23.600 --> 00:51:26.000 Her DHEA is 422. 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:27.760 And her cholesterol is 218. 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.120 And her vitamin D is 26. 00:51:30.120 --> 00:51:32.360 And her CO2 is 22. 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.120 Which obviously we can see there's some problems. 00:51:36.120 --> 00:51:39.640 So, any suggestions, she said, on her situation? 00:51:39.640 --> 00:51:45.160 Definitely vitamin D. You mentioned PCOS. 00:51:45.160 --> 00:51:50.000 Yeah, she started out at a young age with PCOS. 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.480 Vitamin D came to my mind when you mentioned that. 00:51:54.480 --> 00:52:01.040 Because it and thyroid are behind the PCOS problem. 00:52:01.040 --> 00:52:11.040 Vitamin D should be at least 50, I think, maybe 55 or 60. 00:52:11.040 --> 00:52:18.480 And the calcium intake should be close to, if possible, 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:23.440 two liters of milk per day will give a protective amount 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:25.280 of calcium. 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.400 The vitamin D and calcium alone might 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:35.240 improve the sensitivity to both progesterone and thyroid. 00:52:35.240 --> 00:52:40.560 So I would normalize the vitamin D first. 00:52:40.560 --> 00:52:45.760 And then watch what's happening to temperature and pulse rate 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.200 and sensitivity to progesterone. 00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:52.960 You should be able to feel the effect of progesterone 00:52:52.960 --> 00:53:00.560 when you need it as relief within 5 or 10 or 15 minutes. 00:53:00.560 --> 00:53:04.640 And so you can repeat the dose if you don't feel the relief. 00:53:04.640 --> 00:53:08.360 So I am so thankful that we were able to do this. 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:09.960 I think this has been really enlightening 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:11.400 in many different ways. 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:12.920 And especially, hopefully, people 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:17.120 have a different spin on the coronavirus. 00:53:17.120 --> 00:53:19.760 And obviously, I'm kind of a conspiracy theorist, 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.640 so that's why I had to ask some of the questions. 00:53:23.640 --> 00:53:25.600 I think it would be good for everyone 00:53:25.600 --> 00:53:32.080 to look at the videos by Wolfgang Wodarg, W-O-D-A-R-G, 00:53:32.080 --> 00:53:39.680 and Sucharit Bhakdi, B-H-A-K-D-I. And John Ioannidis 00:53:39.680 --> 00:53:42.600 has a website discussing it. 00:53:42.600 --> 00:53:45.640 And for the people who like conspiracy theories, 00:53:45.640 --> 00:53:51.000 there is a very good one by David Icke, spelled I-C-K-E. 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.640 I will put-- let's see if I can find those and pop them 00:53:53.640 --> 00:53:54.800 in the show notes, too. 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.960 So that's awesome. 00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.960 OK, well, I'm so thankful that we got to do this, 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.840 because I needed some Dr. Peat insight on this COVID-19, 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:07.320 and I feel like I've gotten it. 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.360 So thank you so much, and it's always a pleasure. 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.480 So how can people support you with your newsletter? 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.360 Can you enlighten them as to how to do that? 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.440 Because they're definitely going to want 00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:19.680 to read what you have to say. 00:54:19.680 --> 00:54:21.520 I'm enjoying them, anyway. 00:54:21.520 --> 00:54:27.120 OK, I don't have anything on my website yet about the virus. 00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:32.560 I'll be doing a newsletter on it in a couple of months, maybe. 00:54:32.560 --> 00:54:35.880 And the place to subscribe to the newsletter 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:43.520 is raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com. 00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:49.720 And other topics are on my website, raypeat.com. 00:54:49.720 --> 00:54:51.640 OK, I'll pop that in the show notes, too. 00:54:51.640 --> 00:54:53.200 Dr. Peat, thank you so much. 00:54:53.200 --> 00:54:55.640 This is awesome as usual, and we'll 00:54:55.640 --> 00:54:58.320 be in touch for the next one. 00:54:58.320 --> 00:54:59.480 OK, very good. 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:00.640 Thank you. 00:55:00.640 --> 00:55:03.080 I've got a promo code for you.