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Welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor.
My name is Andrew Murray.
For those of you who perhaps have never listened to our shows which run every third Friday
of the month from 7 to 8 p.m., we're both licensed medical herbalists who trained in
England and graduated there with a degree in herbal medicine.
We run a clinic in Garberville where we consult with clients about a wide range of conditions
and we manufacture all our own certified organic herbal extracts which are either grown on
our CCUF certified herb farm or which are sourced from other USA certified organic supplies.
So you're listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMED Garberville 91.1 FM.
And from 7.15 today until the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in with
any questions either related or unrelated to this month's last minute topic as it were
of the unfolding facts in Japan.
I think first and foremost we want to extend our heartfelt sincere wishes for the people
of Japan that their country could recover and the people there can find relief from
a lack of food and shelter and protection and help from all the sources possible to
help them cope with this disaster.
So last Friday there was a 8.9 or 9.0 earthquake which resulted in a tsunami and the tsunami
had the unfortunate effect of causing a fairly catastrophic breakdown in the cooling system
of Fukushima nuclear power plant.
We're going to be joined in a moment here by Dr. Raymond Peat who's an expert physiologist,
chemist, research scientist and we're going to be hearing from Dr. Raymond Peat about
some helpful things to do to counter any potential radioactive spread to this country.
It was probably earlier in the week that I first started finding some internet-based
evidence to show that the spread of radiation from the steam leaked from the plant subsequent
to the explosions, the hydrogen explosions on the actual buildings, not the containment
vessel for the reactor but the buildings that house all of the reactor and all the machinery,
that that steam was laden with things like iodine 131 and cesium isotopes and that these
had been released in the steam cloud as the engineers desperately tried to lower the pressure
by allowing the steam from the reactor to leave so it didn't cause any further breakdown
of the containment vessel which would certainly result in fairly widespread and very damaging
radioactive release.
And one of the reactors, number three, the mixed oxide fuel reactor that contained the
plutonium, 6% plutonium and 94% uranium, that would lead to a much more serious environmental
damage if that was released.
OK, so we started coming out on Wednesday, I think it was, I first started seeing some
spreading clouds, as it were, in colour showing a potential spread to the East Coast and then
the CTBTO from Vienna released information and it became widespread public knowledge.
It was no longer something that was on the fringes but fairly widespread public knowledge
and today, that was on Thursday, and today on Friday quite a few government agencies
are also admitting this.
So on Wednesday or Tuesday of last week they started saying that the radioactive components
would be in the upper atmosphere, spread by the jet stream, moving east and due to hit
the Aleutian Islands on Thursday and then be on the West Coast of America with a spread
potentially from Oregon down to California.
So yesterday I read the CTBTO report online and indeed this cloud was coming fairly close
and was expected to make landfall by Friday.
So funnily enough today in Sacramento, now the CTBTO is the centre of the, basically
the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organisation that was set up to monitor the atmosphere for radioactive
particles, isotopes, emissions from nuclear testing.
There's a comprehensive test ban on nuclear explosions and these sites, there are 60 of
them around the world, and these sites actually measure radiation released from nuclear explosions.
So the ones in the Pacific were starting to detect this and actually in Vienna they released
the information.
I think it was, I don't know if it was a mole or an insider who just wanted to make sure
that it got out because as well as radioactive data, the CTBTO collects geophysical information,
so it's seismic activity, tsunami activity, and on top of that the third thing they do
is maintain and monitor any radioactive release as a telltale signature from nuclear explosions.
Okay so they started picking this up and then on Thursday it was released from Vienna and
they said on Friday it would be making landfall in California and actually today one of the
CTBTO stations based in Sacramento actually recorded a very small, so although they're
very small, they're present particles of iodine, I-131, and so it's fairly real that what we
have in the upper air jet stream and/or coming down in the rain is potentially going to land
here and that's something we should just be aware of.
At this point in time it's still, I would safely say, still fairly small but it's certainly
coming this way all the time now.
It's made its first landfall from when it first started and the fires broke out on Saturday
or Sunday of last week and so for the last five days the cloud trail's been coming east.
So I want to...
We're joined by Dr. Ray Peat today and I want to introduce Dr. Peat and then also ask him
from his sources if he believes it true that the radioactive iodine has reached our land
yet.
It's probably present in detectable amounts but probably not yet biologically significant
but it could quickly become concentrated enough to affect pregnant women because the fetus
concentrates elements from the environment at least 100 times faster than other tissues
and so during the first two or three months after an accident like that there will be
a radioactive iodine which would be concentrating in the embryo and fetus.
Other isotopes such as cesium and strontium would continue to be dangerous if they got
into the food supply but the radioactive iodine is one that's most crucial for developing
babies.
So Dr. Peat, we wanted to go over and discuss what different foods and nutrients could help
protect us from increasing levels if it does increase or more dangerous levels of radioactive
iodine that may be present and/or cesium and/or strontium from this cloud that is coming over
from Japan and we wanted to go through the list of different things that specifically
can block those radioactive particles as well as in general what nutrients are protective.
The first principle is to dilute the radioactive isotopes with good stable or relatively stable
isotopes and so old food is best.
The iodine radioactive isotope is practically all gone after three months after the production
of it and the others will eventually tend to wash down into the ground and so the plants
that grow in the first few months after an accident will contain those isotopes.
So if you have canned food, dried milk or aged cheese, these are very safe and will
continue to be safe for months because they were produced before the accident.
The other principle besides diluting the isotopes is to increase your resistance to stress and
radiation and it happened that my very first newsletter 30 years ago was on radiation resistance
and what to do in case of a nuclear accident and at that time I reviewed a couple thousand
research articles both from the old AEC, Atomic Energy Commission research and a lot of it
from the Soviet research and the main conclusions that I found were that increasing the metabolic
rate which causes cells to retain magnesium.
Magnesium is very important in repairing cell damage and the faster the metabolic rate is
generally the more damage can be repaired before it becomes established as a stress
factor in the organism.
The high metabolic rate produces carbon dioxide which has an antioxidant, anti-stress effect
all through the organism so if you keep your metabolic rate up and eat a balanced diet,
your tissues are going to retain magnesium it needs out of the food and produce the carbon
dioxide it needs assuming that you're getting adequate protein, sugar, fat, vitamins and
balance of minerals.
So you mentioned to me earlier that there are ways and foods that we can eat to keep
our metabolic rate high as along with taking thyroid so can you expand on what types of
sugars and fats and proteins we should be ingesting?
The ideal fat is coconut oil because the short chain saturated fatty acids compete with the
other fats that normally are slowing metabolism and oxidative metabolism and so for a couple
hours after you eat more or less a tablespoon of coconut oil per meal, for a couple hours
your metabolic rate is increased producing more carbon dioxide and accelerating cell
repair processes.
The fruits that come from the tropics, the farther south the fruit is grown, the longer
it will be free of this high latitude Japanese radiation.
So oranges grown in Mexico, Brazil and Florida are still going to be pretty pure in terms
of radiation for a very long time and the sugar and the minerals in oranges are very
close to what we need.
So coconut oil, orange juice and milk is a good source of calcium.
During the atmospheric bomb test in the 50s and 60s, I got interested in the study the
government was doing or they were doing it secretly before it became public for a long
time that they were collecting baby teeth from around the world to measure the fallout
effect and the government began recommending that people not drink milk because milk was
contaminated with the strontium which was taken up along with the calcium.
I looked at the actual analysis of the food value as well as the isotope content of vegetables
and found that a person getting their nutrition from vegetables was going to have about five
times higher exposure to strontium-90 than people who got their nutrition primarily from
milk and cheese because the cows were able to concentrate the calcium and filter out
a little more of the strontium than the vegetables were doing.
You mentioned to me that in order to get enough calcium to protect against your body's own
bone destruction that you would have to drink one to two quarts and eat some cheese daily
and that same amount of calcium from green leafy vegetables would be about three pounds
of spinach per day.
Something like that, yeah.
And then the fact that you're eating so much spinach that could have been contaminated
with strontium, you'd actually be exposing yourself to much higher levels of strontium.
Yeah.
Can you talk to us about what you'd recommend for elimination methods like if we are breathing
in or ingesting radioactive particles, what's the best elimination method you find to take?
Because I know there's a lot of stuff on the internet about all these different things
you can take that will help bind the radioactive particles, but what do you recommend, Dr.
Peat?
Well, if it gets into your digestive system, if it's coming in incorporated in the food,
there's really no way to sort it out.
But if it's in the water, for example, if you can just keep a lot of fiber flowing through
your system, eating fruit that you know isn't contaminated, carrots, for example, if you
know that they're safely grown uncontaminated, will the material through your intestine preventing
the absorption of some nutrients at the same time that if you're exposed to a very concentrated
dose from rain or something, it's better to go hungry for a little while while sweeping
out your intestine.
So would you consider, just to kind of go back a little bit here, but would you consider
the radiation that we might have been exposed to thus far dangerous enough to avoid drinking
any milk and eating any vegetables from California and Oregon?
Oh, no, not yet.
Not yet.
If it becomes, if the reactors start burning fuel rods, someone is likely to leak the information
in time that people can take precautions.
But if it reached the proportions of Chernobyl, then it would take extreme measures for a
very long time using only stored antique food.
The older food would become more valuable.
So it sounds like we need to start stocking up on sugar and dried milk powder.
Yeah.
Okay.
And other things that can help move things along in the intestine are all the various
liver herbs and cascara bark powder at all speeds intestinal transit time.
But I did want to ask you, Dr. Peat, there's a lot of hype around people using potassium
iodide already and it's selling out of the stores and people using kelp.
And can you please explain to our listeners how taking kelp or the potassium iodide supplement
would help protect them against the high amount of radioactive iodine in our environment?
Well, simply dilute the radioactive isotope.
When you're taking in a lot of old stable iodine, it saturates your thyroid.
Your thyroid shuts down and stops taking up anymore.
And so you can add radioactive iodine to a saturated person and it just gradually washes
out without concentrating at a very high level in the thyroid.
But if a person is deficient in iodine, almost all of it will, once it gets into the bloodstream,
it'll stick in the thyroid gland and give an extremely high dose to the gland and even
more so to a developing embryo's thyroid gland.
The fetus will concentrate even more than the mother's thyroid.
The potassium iodide is very good protection only from the damage to the thyroid gland.
It doesn't do anything at all to protect against the other isotopes or the other tissues of
the body, as some people are saying on the internet.
In fact, probably if you took it more than enough to saturate your tissues, the Center
for Disease Control advocates 160 milligrams one dose.
If you took that much every day for a long time, your thyroid gland would shut down,
your metabolism would slow down, and all of your defensive reactions would slow down.
So you'd become more susceptible to injury throughout the rest of your body.
So you're not recommending that people take any kelp powder or potassium iodide at this
current level?
No.
Just the minimum requirement is only 150 or 200 micrograms.
And even one milligram per day continued for a very long time increases the risk of damage
to the thyroid gland.
Thyroiditis appears increasingly when people just a milligram of iodine or more.
And do you know the measurements on how much is in kelp powder?
How many milligrams is in a teaspoon of kelp or a half teaspoon of kelp?
No, but probably a half teaspoon.
I think people have calculated that it would take an ounce to be equal to the Center for
Disease Control amount, but probably a half teaspoon is adequate to saturate most people.
But only once we have more information saying there is actually elevated levels of radioactive
iodine in our environment?
Yeah.
So a half teaspoon dose isn't going to hurt anyone, but you don't want to do that every
day for a long time.
Andrew, did you have a question?
No, I think what was, like you were saying, the rush on buying potassium iodide was pretty
apparent.
I know I saw plenty of information regarding that.
And the thing with iodine, if I'm right in saying this, Dr. Peat, is that the radioactive
iodine that was present in Chernobyl was also responsible for the big increase in thyroid
cancers.
And now you're saying that pregnant women are actually more susceptible even than young
children.
Yeah, Ernest Sternglass, who got interested in the issue when they were doing atmospheric
bomb tests.
The government timed their bomb tests in Nevada so that the wind wasn't blowing towards the
big California cities.
They wanted all of the fallout to go into Utah, and the population of Utah suffered
the most from autoimmune diseases and cancer and other diseases.
But occasionally the rainfall would be so light that no fallout would come down until
it got to the East Coast.
And one of these times, Ernest Sternglass had his students studying how to use their
Geiger counters, and they found that there was a terrific amount of radiation at the
university, which the government hadn't mentioned to anyone.
And that got him studying it and paying attention to how dishonest the U.S. Public Health Service
and Atomic Energy Commission and state public health officials were.
But he showed that probably there were tens of thousands of miscarriages, and the babies
that survived a very high percentage were hypothyroid.
Even there was an epidemic of babies born without their thyroid glands.
And as long as they were being breastfed, the mother's thyroid was entering the milk
at a high enough level to cover up the symptoms.
So as soon as they were weaned, they were discovered not to have thyroid glands.
Going back to cover-ups or suppression of information, I found it quite interesting
from the moment the tsunami happened and the evolving situation of Fukushima was passing
day by day with ever increasing explosions, etc.
I found the most information, funnily enough, coming from Russia Today.
That news agency there, I think, probably not suppressed so much by the West as the
BBC even.
I found the BBC's coverage was pretty good, but I found Russia Today, their coverage was
pretty excellent.
And they had the most up-to-date information, I presume because the time zone there was
much more on a par with Japan.
So in the waking hours, they were picking up the information as soon as it was being
released from sources in Japan.
But I wonder what would be the best, I guess to keep monitoring Russia Today, but the best
source for people in America to be able to find out more about local results with real
time and real figures to show what actually is in the environment.
I wonder what would be the best way to go about doing that.
I don't remember the web address, but there is a good nuclear site, basically an anti-nuclear
power site that is getting up-to-date information.
The other thing was I was looking on eBay Geiger counters of all things just to see.
They're out there, there's hundreds of them on eBay, and they're not expensive.
And I think a lot of them are post-Cold War, post-Three Mile Island.
So getting hold of a Geiger counter to actually do some physical measurements yourself.
For a while, the internet stores were selling old Soviet Geiger counters for about $15.
And someone just told me that she and her neighbor had bought two for $35.
And as soon as the radiation scare hit, the price went up to $75.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, because I saw them on eBay and they were going for about $150 to $200.
And these were, I can get hold of the information pretty quick, but they were all fairly similar.
They're kind of bright yellow and maybe about the size of an egg carton.
So I'm actually holding mine right here, which I got on the internet.
I could have paid anywhere.
I got the cheapest basically, which cost me about $250.
I did see even cheaper ones other places, but the really good expensive ones cost $10,000
to $20,000.
And the little booklet I got with this, I can tell some kinds of radiation from other
kinds.
But I basically have it beeping and I got it to check out both industrial metals and
phosphate fertilizers.
And I did find some things which are definitely hot by mine.
It's not beeping much more than normal right now.
All right, let's get back to some of those things that people can do.
We do have a caller on the line, but I did want to at least go through a few more of
the anti-radiation nutrients.
Dr. Peat, caffeine, there's lots of information out there about tea and coffee.
And can you describe to us briefly what the nutrients are in the tea and the coffee and
how caffeine helps protect against radiation?
Coffee is a good source of magnesium and of some B vitamins, niacin especially, and the
caffeine anti-inflammatory and antioxidant.
So if you happen to have some mobile isotopes that are still in your bloodstream and going
through your kidneys, caffeine helps to flush them out faster and safely.
It has a slight chelating effect as well as anti-inflammatory.
And, sorry, carry on.
The things that have an anti-estrogen effect as well as anti-inflammatory, the radiation
effect itself imitates estrogen in the body.
Everything that estrogen does can be imitated by radiation, including making a rat go into
estrus, for example.
And if you're in a high estrogen state, then you're more susceptible to radiation injury.
And that's why progesterone and thyroid and caffeine, by helping to lower estrogen and
inflammation are protective against radiation too.
So just to recap those, you said caffeine, coffee, because it contains the magnesium
and B vitamins, progesterone to block the estrogenic effects of radiation, other antioxidants
like vitamin E also blocks the effects of estrogen and helps with radiation, and vitamin
C and orange juice and tropical fruits, vitamin A found in eggs and liver helps in the repair
processes.
I wanted to briefly ask you about the glutathione, that that's been touted to help with radiation
damages.
There's a lot of confusion around glutathione because anything that harms your cells turns
on a defensive reaction and increases the glutathione.
And so a lot of things that have exactly the wrong effect are being suggested on the basis
of increasing glutathione.
Many harmful things by stimulating that defense reaction will increase glutathione.
And taking a large dose of glutathione in itself, animal studies showed that it could
be carcinogenic to the liver just by starting free radical reactions rather than stopping
them.
Other anti-inflammatories that can help protect against radiation, aspirin, of course, which
comes from white willow bark, well not anymore, but originated from white willow bark.
Also ginkgo, turmeric, those are other herbal anti-inflammatories.
Various adaptogenic adrenal herbs, aluthrowroot, American and Korean ginseng have been shown
to help with radiation sickness.
And we mentioned the B vitamins already.
I wanted you, Dr. Friedt, to talk to us about animal liver, which contains a lot of B vitamins
and the fat-soluble A, D, E, and K vitamins and why, contrary to popular opinion, it's
actually less toxic than the other parts of the animal.
Yeah, the liver is the main detoxifying organ.
Kidneys and brain have some of the same detoxifying enzymes, but the liver is where a great bulk
of detoxification happens.
And there have been studies in which beef were going into the slaughterhouse, their
urine, blood, and tissues were measured.
And the large proportion of the animals, more than a third, showed chemical contamination
in the blood and urine.
And practically all of them had the same chemicals in their fat and muscle tissues, the meats
that are most popular.
Only a very tiny proportion still had any of the toxic chemicals left in their liver.
For the first 24 hours after you're exposed to an insecticide, for example, it will collect
in the liver and be bound to a certain kind of protein.
During this first day in which it's collecting at a high concentration in the liver, the
liver begins destroying it.
And after just about 24 hours, the liver has cleaned itself and then begins a slow process
of cleaning the blood as it draws toxins out of the muscles and fat tissues.
The fats are relatively inert, and so the highest toxins accumulate there over the years.
And so the fatty meats are most risky as far as the chemical poisoning.
So the liver is the cleanest.
Okay, good.
There's a caller on the line, so let's start taking the callers, because there may well
be.
Hi, hello fellow downwinders of the vast nuclear corporate industrial empire.
I've been watching the news, and I thought maybe it was the website that Dr. Peat mentioned,
an anti-nuclear information site.
It was on the news, a couple of programs had the boom coming from Japan, and it indicated
that the very first place where it was hitting the West Coast was actually Cape Mendocino
from about Eureka to Fort Bragg.
That was like at 11 o'clock last night they were showing that map.
So we're the initial fallout point of that particular boom.
And I have a couple of questions concerning, the first one before I forget, the first colon
cleanser that you mentioned, I didn't quite catch the name of that.
What was it again?
Grated carrots.
Raw carrot.
Once again.
Raw carrot salad, like raw carrots.
Oh, raw carrots.
Okay.
I had a little static on the line, on the radio when you mentioned that.
And I understand also garlic is supposed to bring iodine into the system.
Is that something that you're aware of?
What was that?
Garlic.
Garlic, oh, it has some antioxidant effect, but I don't think it has a big effect on iodine.
Okay, and then this weekend we're trying to safeguard ourselves with our potassium iodine
salad, which is bananas and seaweed.
Is there, I mean, if we don't really go out and eat a whole lot of, I don't know what
the flavor is, but it's got to be better than the tasteless plutonium and uranium that's
literally raining down on us.
Is there a cautionary amount that you would eat of some kind of a fruit/sea salad like
that, that would be reasonable to start maybe implementing some protection?
Dr. Peat, did you hear that question?
The last part of it I didn't hear.
Okay, well, basically he's suggesting eating a banana and seaweed salad.
So to provide potassium and...
Well, the seaweed, kelp and dulse, for example, or sea organisms like greenfin, oysters and
clams, those are good sources of iodine.
But the banana issue brings up an important aspect of radiation, which is bananas are
probably one of the richest food sources in serotonin.
And some biologists, Carmel Mothersill and Colin Seymour, for example, have been studying
the effects of low-level radiation on cell physiology and communication.
And they find that at a very low level, ionizing radiation causes cells to produce serotonin,
among other agents, that even if you take the injured cells out of the organism or the
culture dish, the water that they were in when they were injured becomes equivalent
to the radiation for other cells.
The same kind of genetic damage caused directly by the radiation can be caused by the chemicals
put into the environment by those injured cells.
And serotonin at a level above 20 nanograms per milliliter is one of those communicators
of radiation damage.
They in one of their books have a study by some of the biologists who worked with the
Chernobyl victims, both the children who have been living in the region and the people who
survived working at the accident.
And they find that the serum taken from these exposed people 20 years after the accident,
their serum separated from their blood components, added to another person's cell, caused radiation
damage equivalent in those cells.
And since they identified a very small amount of serotonin as one of the factors spreading
this inflammation, genetic destabilizing material, I think it's good to avoid as many sources
of serotonin as possible, especially bananas.
Good.
Well, so when it's said that somebody is going bananas, there's actually a pharmaceutical
psychological aspect to that, it sounds like.
Well, I guess I'll be adding raw carrots to our salad and reducing the amount of bananas.
Is there any benefit to eating dried bananas to fresh bananas, considering the psychopharmaceutical
aspects of the serotonin in there?
I think drifting towards gelatinous meats away from muscle meat would help to reduce
the tendency of the tissues when inflamed to produce serotonin.
A good balance of vitamins and minerals to avoid excess serotonin production during inflammation.
But all of those anti-inflammatory things that have been mentioned are basically anti-serotonin.
Okay, and my final question on estrogenics concerning ingestion by men.
I don't know if palmetto is one of those, but is there anything that maybe should be
taken to preempt the estrogenic effect of radionuclides as far as the difference between
men ingesting them and women ingesting them, or is it at a point where maybe drinking water
out of a plastic bottle with a bisphenol A is better than dealing with the radionuclides
that that might preempt at least over the next couple of weeks?
And thank you very much for the program.
I'm going to release the line.
Thank you for your call.
Dr. Peat, did you hear that gentleman's last?
Almost, none of it.
Okay, yeah, we have a little bit of feedback here.
So he was asking about the anti-estrogenic, what else could men take that's anti-estrogen
and help protect against the radionuclides, and also whether you would recommend people
drink bottled water versus water from bringing their well in the next several months?
Given that the bottled water is a potential source of estrogenic substance.
I think a good filter for well water is adequate.
And progesterone is very anti-estrogenic.
And for men, keeping the thyroid function high is the main thing.
Progesterone and thyroid are able to inhibit the estrogen that's produced as a result of
stress.
I've actually just thought of something.
In the water filter, is the, because we have water filters that we run our water through,
and I know that the core of the filter is a carbon, a pleated carbon core.
Is that carbon there?
Is that able to sequester things like iodine if it was in the water?
Yeah, I think carbon catches almost any solid will absorb to an activated percolate.
Okay, good.
All right, there's two more callers on the line, so let's take the next one.
You're on the air?
Hello?
Hi, you're on the air.
Well, the brown seaweeds like wakame and kombu, especially kombu, are high in sodium alginate,
and they're supposed to take all heavy metals and radioactivity out of your body, just not
the iodine.
So don't you think they would be good?
Did you hear that, Dr. Peat?
Yeah, if they pass through your intestine.
Well, yes, eating them.
Yeah, they aren't going to be any more effective than good cellulose.
Anything indigestible that stimulates your intestine will sweep out.
Even with the sodium alginate?
Well, the trouble is that alginate is very dangerously allergenic for many people, so
I wouldn't recommend it unless you are sure that you're not sensitive to it because...
I don't know one person that eats kombu that's ever had allergies to it.
Yeah, dental patients have died, and dental students, a very high proportion of dental
students working with alginate to make molds are surprisingly healthy young dental students.
Well, that's a concentrate that they made, not a whole food product.
Well, carrageenan is somewhat worse, but the alginate itself has potential to be dangerously
allergenic.
Okay.
I think in light of raw carrots being so absorptive in the intestinal tract and non-digestible,
meaning that if they were contaminated themselves, when you eat them, you're not going to be
absorbing heavy metals, and when they wash through your intestinal tract, they're going
to be absorbing potential heavy metals and radioactive particles.
Oh, well, I think carrots are a good idea, but so is seaweed, I think.
Well, see, taking too much seaweed will actually lower your metabolic rate and make you...
Well, too much, yeah.
Well, even eating it daily is enough.
It doesn't take that much in order to start suppressing the thyroid.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, you're welcome.
There's another caller on the line.
You're on the air.
Oh, hello.
Yes, what I recommend using is mushroom.
There's this mushroom right around here called the turkey tail, the Medes Versi color, and
this one is actually, in Asia, is used as an anti-cancer drug because it has a high
quality protein-bound polysaccharide, which is discovered very effective in cancer and
also in treating cancer patients that have chemotherapy in their survival rate.
It also has other qualities, free radical oxidizing compounds and all kinds of things
like that.
And other mushrooms are the same quality, which are called polyporor mushrooms, which
is the richez one, and these big, thick planks that grow like wood-like looking mushrooms.
And these mushrooms have been studied in Japan and have been proven to reduce the T cell
production and what is that, interleukin production?
I was wondering if you know anything about that.
Dr. Peat, how much do you know about those particular fungi?
Oh, what was the name of those?
Well, he mentioned things like the polyphores, the...
The turkey tail is the one that grows around here.
Yeah.
It's the most common, and I make a tea from it just by drying it in dust and powder.
Okay, do you know that fungi?
It's like the most...
It actually is the most studied fungi in the world as far as medicinal.
Okay.
Are you speaking about reishi?
No, he's talking about turkey.
No, it's related to reishi.
It's also a polyphore mushroom.
It's a thick mushroom.
Around here, if you look on these trees, there's these just layers of these mushrooms.
They're like fry-colored mushrooms.
They're called turkey tails.
They go like green and brown and with a white edge.
And they grow on all like the oak trees, the maple, all basically hardwood trees.
And they're the most common mushroom probably in the world.
They grow in the most sombrero, boreal forest, tropical forest, and in every state in the
union except for I think Nevada.
I think a lot of the...
And they've been studied all over the world.
They actually make this commercial thing called Preston, as she calls it, the anti-cancer drug
in Asia.
Okay, I'm not a huge fan of it.
I think a lot of the mushrooms have polysaccharides that are active at absorbing a lot of things
from the gastrointestinal tract.
Right, and that's what I was saying.
They use them in chemotherapy and stuff like that.
I'm just saying that...
Well, they also have for other types of things besides the antioxidizing compounds.
But I always take mushrooms anyway.
I'm a big fan of them.
I would recommend that people use this mushroom.
It's growing right on...
You look under your oak tree, your apple tree, your bay tree over here on the ground and
you look at the dead branches and you see it's covered with these mushrooms.
They're very dry.
They're dry mushrooms.
All right.
And that is called the turkey tail.
Okay, well people can check that out on the internet and find out some more about it.
I'm not too familiar with it.
It is like it's been used with Reche.
Okay, I'm familiar with Reche.
And that's another one of the...
And the other one around here, you ever see those mushrooms that look like a piece of
wood, real heavy, thick things growing off of a tree?
Yeah, I've seen those.
They're called ponks.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
And that one too has the same quality.
Many of the same quality.
Okay, well thank you for your call.
I know there's a couple of other people probably want to get a question in.
So let's take the next caller.
Hello?
Hi, you on the air?
All right.
So I have a great website.
The EPA has revamped for the general public so we can easily access the graphical representation
of the raw data of the monitoring sites along the West Coast.
Okay, and that is?
So you can see the actual gamma and beta radiation levels.
What's the name of the site?
Hourly?
What's the website?
Okay, here it comes.
You guys ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data.atml.
Okay, good.
Maybe we'll get a check.
You get all that?
I wrote it all down.
Okay, great.
Okay, let's try it.
It's really handy.
I already looked at it.
We haven't seen anything unusual anywhere yet.
Okay.
Okay, it was just the one thing.
So we'll get you in that department.
After 2011/rert, you said?
Yeah, it was 2011/rert.
Okay.
And what's the website?
It's www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data.atml.
Okay.
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And going back to potassium, I know that Carla was asking about bananas, but orange juice
is very rich in potassium, and potassium will also help your body pick up less cesium like
the kelp will help your -- the iodine in the kelp will help your body pick up less radioactive
iodine.
Yeah.
Fifty years ago, I proposed that the safe thing would be to have industrial-sized greenhouses
which, if they were going to keep doing the atmospheric bomb test, I suggested that all
vegetables should be grown in either petroleum or coal-fired greenhouses, providing fossil
carbon dioxide to avoid the radioactive carbon isotope from the fallout, and using limestone
as the safe source of calcium for fertilizer and other fossil minerals to give the complete
non-radioactive food source for the plants and animals that were being used for food.
But by 1963, the government had agreed to stop testing in the atmosphere.
One of the reasons that I did my newsletter in 1981 on radiation protection was that beginning
with that huge burst of atmospheric fallout from the bomb test in 1963, the GORES, all
kinds of indicators of intelligence, babies born in nine months after 1963's burst of
atmospheric tests, their SAT scores were showing up in 1981 as the lowest of history, and it
turned out people were arguing that it was because more poor students were taking the
test, but actually it was the high-scoring people who were eliminated from the SAT scores.
The high scores decreased progressively in proportion to the amount of fallout being
produced by the bombs.
OK, we're going to have to call it a night, Dr. Peat, I'm afraid.
I'd love to hear more, and I know a lot of other people would, but it's one minute to
eight o'clock now, so we've got to stop it at eight.
Thank you so much for joining us yet again, I really appreciate everything you have to
offer.
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