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00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:22.000 In biology, I studied mostly at the University of Oregon 1968 to '72, 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:28.000 did my PhD dissertation on reproductive aging 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:36.000 and how the physiology of oxidative metabolism changes with aging 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:43.000 and interacts with changes in all of the hormones. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:50.000 And since then, I've been developing some of the central ideas 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:57.000 that were involved in both aging and reproduction. 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:58.000 Okay, good. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:03.000 As I know that a lot of your research has been fairly revelational 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:09.000 in terms of work that is being done both in academic universities 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:14.000 and other private research, but which doesn't always come to the fore 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.000 or if at least it does, it takes quite a significant time to reach the medical industry. 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:26.000 I think tonight's kind of beginning introduction anyway at least 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:33.000 for the nervous system has got some fairly new ideas attached to it, if you like. 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:39.000 But I think rather than getting too technical for most people perhaps who are listening, 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:44.000 because it is a very interesting subject and physiologically it's pretty intricate, 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:50.000 but for those people who perhaps don't have a very large amount of science background, 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:58.000 especially in physiology, I think it would be really good just to discuss briefly 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:04.000 the two arms of the nervous system, the sympathetic and the parasympathetic 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.000 before we actually get into the subject of tonight. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:17.000 The general way doctors still think about them was a set of ideas established 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:25.000 just about 100 years ago with opposition between the relaxing side 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:30.000 and the mobilizing emergency side. 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:38.000 That has tended to be called the fight or flight reaction for the sympathetic nervous system 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:44.000 that is based largely on adrenaline. 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:53.000 The relaxing parasympathetic side is based mostly on acetylcholine. 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:04.000 But in the last 30 or 40 years a lot of complexity has turned up 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:11.000 even though in the general sense those oppositions are still accurate, 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:15.000 but it turns out there's a lot of overlap. 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:23.000 Each part of the nervous system does things that can also be done by the other side, 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:32.000 and each one has more repertoire than just adrenaline or acetylcholine. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:41.000 They can interact in various ways with serotonin, histamine, and so on. 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:47.000 The relaxing side of the nervous system supposedly, 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:57.000 the 100-year-old idea is that it takes care of peristalsis and secretion largely. 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:08.000 It slows the heart rate for relaxation and weakens the strength of the heart contraction, 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:18.000 but it strengthens the peristalsis movement of the intestine and wall of the bladder and ureters 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:26.000 and stimulates secretion of a lot of glands. 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:36.000 But it relaxes the sphincters of the intestine and the bladder and gallbladder and such 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:44.000 so that it goes with secretion, digestion, and excretion, 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.000 all of the basically vegetative processes. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.000 Right. So that's the parasympathetic nervous system. 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.000 It's all about what happens after you eat a meal, for example. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.000 You relax, you take it easy, you digest your food. 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:02.000 Everything's being produced by the glands that are secreting enzymes into the intestine 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.000 or the stomach to digest your food. 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.000 The heart rate slows down. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:10.000 You always think of the parasympathetic as being fairly peaceful and wet, if you like. 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.000 And it tends to take over at night. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:17.000 It helps a person go to sleep by slowing the heart rate. 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:23.000 At least it should slow things down during the night. 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:34.000 But with problems such as diabetes or hypoglycemia or various metabolic disorders, 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.000 it can get overactive. 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:42.000 And instead of just calming things down, slowing the metabolism, 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:46.000 lowering blood sugar because you don't need so much, 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:54.000 it can cause too much insulin secretion and other glandular secretions, 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:59.000 for example, causing too much mucus formation. 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:04.000 And the increased insulin can lower your blood sugar too much. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:12.000 And that can lead to intensified activity of the nerves, 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:19.000 intensifying both contraction and relaxation where it shouldn't be happening. 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:20.000 Okay. 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:26.000 So I guess this first question, in the light of what we understand as the sympathetics and parasympathetics, 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:33.000 under the effects of stress, and I think when most people think about stress, 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.000 they talk about stressful situations, stressful job deadlines, 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:42.000 and all of those kinds of things that can raise your blood pressure or raise your heart rate, 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:46.000 make you angry, I don't know, stressful situations. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:54.000 The excitotoxic, so this is the state of a cell where it's being stimulated so much, 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:59.000 the excitation, that stimulation can lead to that toxic effect and that cell death. 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:04.000 And this is something that I know you've written about in one of your newsletters recently 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:10.000 about the stress-induced excitotoxic effects of the parasympathetics, 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:16.000 and it's something I've never really heard about before in terms of what you've just mentioned about over secretion. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.000 Would you describe that a little more? 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:30.000 The place that it started to be understood was in the learned helplessness situation. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:39.000 They saw that when an animal believed it couldn't escape from a stressful situation, 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:44.000 its heart slowed down instead of accelerating. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:51.000 The very same signal that would make an animal's heart race if it was wandering around freely 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:56.000 and had the possibility of escaping, if it was in a trapped situation, 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:06.000 its heart would slow down and it would, given a little too much stress and threat, 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:10.000 its heart would actually stop in a relaxed position 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:17.000 where without that belief in the impossibility of escape, 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:22.000 it would go on struggling for days, swimming in a tank, for example, 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.000 with the expectation that it wouldn't be able to escape. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.000 It might drown in five or six minutes. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:32.000 Wow. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:39.000 So this is a kind of rationale for the explanation of hope being something that can keep a person alive. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.000 Yes, exactly. 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:48.000 In the 1950s, a biologist shocked a lot of other biologists 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:55.000 by talking about the rat's hopelessness causing death. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.000 Wow. 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:03.000 Okay, so I know you mentioned some part about the old, 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:11.000 I won't say old, but kind of the standard treatment for Alzheimer's 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:20.000 and how the method by which the approach to Alzheimer's was used is actually pretty bad science 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:25.000 in terms of what's understood now about the two arms of the nervous system 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:31.000 and how the drugs they're currently using to treat Alzheimer's are actually probably making it worse. 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:41.000 Yes, the brain processes that allow learning and intelligent behavior, 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:46.000 the cholinergic nerves of the brain are very important in that 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:55.000 as well as the serotonin, adrenaline, and several other types of nerves have to be functioning. 00:12:55.000 --> 00:13:07.000 But several types of evidence have made doctors concentrate on the loss of the cholinergic system. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:18.000 And if you stimulate the cholinergic nerves, you can improve learning and behavior. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:25.000 But if you aren't increasing energy to keep up with that increased stimulation, 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:35.000 you put the cell in a stress between having to work harder but not having the fuel to do it. 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:43.000 So if your cortisol is high, for example, interfering with your ability to use sugar, 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:52.000 or if your blood sugar is simply low and you're being stimulated, then the cell tends to die. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:14:04.000 And the reasoning that the Alzheimer's disease was simply a wasting away of the cholinergic nerves 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:09.000 led to treating it for the first 10 or 15 years 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:16.000 just with chemicals to increase excitation of the cholinergic nerves. 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.000 And that wasn't working at all. 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.000 People were dying at a higher rate with liver disease and such. 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:31.000 But from the 1950s, people were already suggesting treating dementia 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.000 and other brain degenerative diseases with atropine 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.000 and other chemicals that block the cholinergic nerves. 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:45.000 And amandadine, which is now used for treating Parkinson's disease, 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:54.000 was one of the chemicals considered anti-cholinergic in the '50s, '60s, and '70s. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:04.000 And since people were seeing actual improvement with the anti-cholinergic chemicals 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:11.000 someone said, "Why not try adding that to the treatment 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:18.000 instead of stopping the excitatory cholinergic drugs? 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.000 Why not add one of these?" 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:29.000 So they reclassified them as acting against another excitatory nervous system, 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:36.000 the system that causes glutamate, MSG nerve toxicity. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:42.000 So they now call it an anti-NMDA chemical, 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.000 memantine, which is similar to amandadine. 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:51.000 So it's a very similar chemical which used to be called anti-cholinergic 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:56.000 that's being used for both Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:04.000 But they still go on with the doctrine that they have to stimulate the cholinergic system too, 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.000 even though that has never shown improvement. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.000 Oh, my goodness. 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:13.000 Okay, well, you're listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMED Gallivoo, 91.1 FM. 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:18.000 And from 7.30 to the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in with any questions, 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:24.000 either related or unrelated to this month's subjects of learned helplessness, nervous system control, 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.000 and a generalized discussion on thyroid, et cetera. 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.000 The number here, if you live in the area, is 923 3911. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.000 Or if you live outside the area, there's a toll-free number, which is 1-800-KMUD-RAD. 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.000 So I just wanted to ask you a little question about estrogen. 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:45.000 I know we've talked about estrogen and progesterone and the opposing effects of each 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:52.000 and the perceived beneficial effects of estrogen being so widely adopted in the '70s and '80s, 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.000 '90s even with hormone replacement therapy. 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.000 But now how the revelations are that estrogen is extremely damaging. 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.000 I know you've always said it's been that way from the very beginning. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:10.000 But how do you look at estrogen as its destructive features? 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:13.000 Why is it so bad for you? 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:28.000 A lot of people by now have heard that there's a premenstrual-related epilepsy that results from an excess of estrogen in relation to progesterone 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:34.000 because estrogen is excitatory while progesterone is calming. 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:48.000 And it happens that estrogen intensifies the parasympathetic part of the autonomic nervous system while progesterone tends to relax that. 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:55.000 You can see that parasympathetic function of estrogen in the uterus. 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:05.000 If there's too much estrogen in pregnancy, it will cause strong contractions of the uterus and can cause miscarriage. 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:15.000 And it's activating -- if you give the drug they give to treat Alzheimer's, which is a procholinergic drug, 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:20.000 it will cause spasms of the uterus just like estrogen. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:27.000 The estrogen is acting with or through that part of the nervous system. 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:43.000 And for about 50 years, there was a puzzle about how acetylcholine or the cholinergic nerves could inhibit the heart and the sphincters 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:50.000 while causing contractions of the various ducts and intestines and so on. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:19:05.000 And they proposed that something was being released in the cells that combined with acetylcholine to determine whether it was excitatory or inhibitory. 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:17.000 The main thing that happens there is that acetylcholine causes cells to produce nitric oxide, 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:24.000 the chemical that became famous with Viagra and Rogaine, which causes vasodilation. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.000 People always also abuse nitrous oxide, don't they, as a kind of -- 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.000 That's a different chemical. 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:38.000 That's actually just an anesthetic, pretty safe chemical, nitrous oxide. 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:45.000 But nitric oxide is the free radical that you find in smog. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:53.000 And it's produced by any cell that's excited too strongly. 00:19:53.000 --> 00:20:06.000 And in the situation where the cholinergic stimulation is causing relaxation in blood vessels where it causes vasodilation, 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:13.000 it's acting by way of increased nitric oxide. 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:26.000 And what the nitric oxide is doing is blocking energy production so the smooth muscle of the blood vessel or sphincter, 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:31.000 wherever it is, simply doesn't have the energy to contract. 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:40.000 It actually steals oxygen from the mitochondrion and blocks the use of any oxygen that's there. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:48.000 And estrogen happens to activate the enzyme that forms nitric oxide. 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:59.000 So it works with the cholinergic system, and both of them act partly through increasing the amount of nitric oxide. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:09.000 And progesterone, with its quieting effect, inhibits the enzyme that forms nitric oxide. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:16.000 Okay, good. Now I wanted to ask you, in the presence of adequate metabolic energy in the form of sufficient thyroid, 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.000 would nitric oxide still be able to do this? 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:26.000 No. In situations where they were studying learned helplessness, 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:34.000 which produces increased acetylcholine and nitric oxide, 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:45.000 they found that either progesterone or thyroid, T3, would block the formation of that behavior. 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:51.000 It would keep them from dying prematurely. 00:21:51.000 --> 00:22:04.000 And the thyroid and progesterone both interfere with the production of nitric oxide. 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:15.000 And in a situation of under function of the thyroid gland or system, 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:27.000 it's now pretty well established that high blood pressure in a very high proportion of the cases is produced by hypothyroidism. 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:38.000 And because of the belief that nitric oxide has a beneficial effect of increasing circulation, 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:52.000 as with Viagra and Rogaine, the thought was that hypothyroidism must be lowering nitric oxide, 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:02.000 but in fact it increases it while still causing contraction of the blood vessels and tightening up increasing blood pressure. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:16.000 So the effect of thyroid is to stop excess nitric oxide or excess cholinergic function or excess estrogen. 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:31.000 But the medical ideas that have been built up on the idea that estrogen is a therapeutic thing across the spectrum 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:40.000 and that nitric oxide is beneficial because it's produced by multi-billion dollar drugs, 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:53.000 these interlock so that they argue that if estrogen produces nitric oxide, then nitric oxide is good and so on. 00:23:53.000 --> 00:24:03.000 Each thing is used as an argument for the other, but when you put them in the context of thyroid and progesterone, 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:13.000 you see that the actual problem such as high blood pressure can involve increased nitric oxide, 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:16.000 even though that goes against the doctrine. 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:30.000 It's a kind of a rabbit hole that's unfortunately clouded by a lot of money and advertising thereof to make sure it stays in the forefront of people's belief systems. 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:41.000 Some of the changes with aging besides high blood pressure, for example, incontinence and edema, 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:51.000 swelling up of the extremities, constipation or at least slow movement of the digestive system, 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:58.000 leakiness of blood vessels, letting fluids swell out, 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:04.000 and then sluggishness of the lymphatic system allowing the edema to accumulate, 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:16.000 these things are all able to be produced and relieved by either increasing or decreasing the amount of nitric oxide in the system. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:28.000 So an excess of the cholinergic function leading to overproduction of nitric oxide will cause constipation, incontinence, 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:40.000 swelling of the feet, just about all of the typical symptoms of aging, stress and shock and so on. 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.000 And they're all alleviated by thyroid and progesterone as the kind of opposites. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:45.000 Yeah. 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.000 Yeah. Okay. All right. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:55.000 So another question that I had actually was from an interaction with another person 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.000 who was potentially going to be using the product. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:04.000 And this was a little bit, it's almost outside of the realm of the topic, but it's kind of similar. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.000 And they were using DHEA. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.000 They wanted to use DHEA. 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:15.000 And on the bottle of the DHEA, it gave a warning about increasing, possibly increasing estrogen. 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:24.000 And again, I think this is very similar to what you're saying about the stress-induced excitatory or excitotoxic, 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:29.000 effects of that. 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:36.000 The estrogen itself possibly would be produced in a person taking DHEA if they were under stress. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:42.000 And if they weren't under stress, if they were using progesterone and they had adequate thyroid and, you know, 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:48.000 their diet was good with sugars, you know, fruit sugars, et cetera, in their diet, and they had enough metabolic energy, 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.000 they wouldn't produce estrogen from DHEA because of that. 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.000 Right. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:05.000 And DHEA and progesterone both will break the learned helplessness pattern of too much nitric oxide. 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:19.000 But what causes DHEA and testosterone to be turned into estrogen excessively is anything basically causing stress, 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:23.000 irritation, inflammation. 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:35.000 The enzyme that makes estrogen, aromatase, is activated by anything that stresses cells. 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:50.000 And the processes that are reversed by thyroid and progesterone are activated by, for example, prostaglandins, 00:27:50.000 --> 00:28:02.000 which are derived from polyunsaturated fatty acids, which happen to synergize with estrogen in many ways. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:13.000 The prostaglandins activate the formation of estrogen and progesterone, thyroid, and aspirin too, 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:29.000 will turn off aromatase by, among other things, inhibiting the activity of the enzyme that makes polyunsaturated fats turn into prostaglandins. 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.000 I'm going to hold you there very briefly, Dr. Peat. We do have a couple of callers on the line already. 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.000 So let's go ahead and take this first caller. You're on the air? 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.000 Hey, my name's Jackie. I live right here. I live in Well Gulch. 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.000 Okay. Hey, Jackie. 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:49.000 I have that premenstrual seizure problem, but it's actually not just premenstrual. 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:55.000 In my experience, it's been about, more recently, it's been like a week before and after my period. 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:58.000 There's definitely hormonal cycles dictating that. That's clear. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.000 How long have you had this for? 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.000 Oh, about three years now. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.000 And how old are you? 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.000 I'm 28. 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.000 Okay. 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.000 So I have like a grand mal seizure once a month. 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.000 Wow. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.000 I have a real memory problem because of that. 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.000 But I'm calling because I'm wondering, you talk about having more thyroid hormone, 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.000 but how do you promote the production of more thyroid hormone? 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:23.000 And does vitamin B6 have anything to do with that? I have more questions beyond this. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:30.000 Well, Dr. Peat, just if perhaps you'd answer your way of approaching seizures, 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.000 as you mentioned at the very beginning of the show, it's pertinent that she's called. 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.000 I'm happy you did call in because I have lots of good advice for you, 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:42.000 and also your approach to its treatment. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.000 Well, in an emergency situation, 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:58.000 you can have a good probability of either stopping or reducing the severity of seizures just with progesterone. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:14.000 But in the long run, you want to stop the intake of the polyunsaturated fats that activate estrogen and inhibit thyroid. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:24.000 The degree of unsaturation of the fat corresponds to the degree of interference with thyroid hormone. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:32.000 So fish oil is more antithyroid than the seed oils. 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:43.000 And the singly unsaturated fat in olive oil, for example, is very weakly antithyroid. 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:55.000 Butter, coconut oil, cream, beef, and lamb fat, for example, are not antithyroid. 00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:05.000 The traditional diets before 1940, even in the industrial countries, 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:11.000 people commonly got quite a bit of thyroid in their food. 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:16.000 If you would stew a chicken or a fish, for example, 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:22.000 the thyroid would always break up and be consumed as part of the food. 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.000 And with that traditional diet, 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:34.000 a person probably averaged about the equivalent of maybe 30 milligrams a day of armor thyroid 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:40.000 in the natural, fresh, glandular material. 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:50.000 So one thing that has contributed to hypothyroidism resulting in high estrogen 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:56.000 and overactivity of the parasympathetic excitatory system, 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:04.000 one factor is just the removal of natural thyroid from the food supply. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:13.000 But at the same time, the diet has been industrialized to include lots of these seed oils, 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:17.000 which are both pro-estrogen and antithyroid. 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:27.000 And in themselves, they are excitatory, produce edema of the brain and so on. 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.000 Well, I've definitely had a history of the edema, right, like the swelling up. 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.000 I thought I was fat, and they gave me an IV diuretic in the hospital. 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.000 One day I peed out eight pounds of water. 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:41.000 So I've been using dandelion root to deal with the water retention. 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.000 Beyond that, since I've cut out estrogenic foods from my diet as much as possible, 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:51.000 like including soy stuff and all, like, unprocessed or improperly processed soy, 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.000 my gut has gotten a lot flatter, and I really haven't been working out. 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.000 But my source for progesterone is chase tree berries. 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:05.000 I am under the impression that over time it can work even just like the time-released IUD, 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.000 so that after like a year I may not even have my menstrual cycle anymore, 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.000 but that it accumulates over time. 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.000 That it will help rebalance my hormonal imbalance, 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.000 and I'll have more progesterone and less estrogen. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.000 I wonder if you know anything about chase tree berries, if you've heard of this. 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.000 It's also known as Vitex berries. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.000 Yeah, Vitex has traditionally been progestogenic for sure, 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.000 and definitely used for menstruating women to reduce the severity of symptoms of high estrogen, 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:44.000 which would typically be edema, PMS, et cetera, mood swings, and long, heavy bleeding. 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.000 Just very briefly, did you say dandelion root? 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.000 Did you mean dandelion leaf? 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:49.000 Both of them. 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.000 Okay. 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.000 The root is the strong diuretic, and the leaf is the mild diuretic. 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.000 Yeah, the root is actually a cologog. 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.000 It's more of a biostimulant, and the leaf is specifically a diuretic, 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.000 and it contains potassium, so it's better than the furosemide 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.000 and the other so-called potassium-sparing diuretics. 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.000 But anyway, I'm more interested in helping you out here. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.000 With Dr. Peat's advice for your epilepsy, 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:16.000 I think that's probably the most pertinent part of what you said. 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:23.000 The minerals are very important too for getting the balance of the nervous system, 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:33.000 making sure you have enough of all of the alkaline minerals, potassium, sodium, calcium, and magnesium. 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:38.000 And fruit and milk are very important for those. 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.000 Yeah, you recommend--I know you recommend magnesium. 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.000 A good source of that is coffee. 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.000 And calcium, obviously, is the milk and dairy products. 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.000 And then sodium was just from regular salt, and you do advocate people use salt, 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.000 and that's been a whole topic of other previous shows, 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.000 so probably best not to go in that direction. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.000 Well, I can add to this too. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.000 I tried to have a vegan diet for a while, and I basically starved myself and depleted all my minerals. 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:11.000 So along with the high fluid, I was regularly being diagnosed with low sodium, 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:18.000 and I've just become more aware of the need for these other minerals. 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.000 But I find that calcium and magnesium, you can get that from nettles, actually. 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:27.000 Yeah, or from any green, any large leafy green that you would-- 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.000 You're emphasizing the alkaline, and you say drink coffee to get these things. 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.000 Coffee is really a good thing. 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.000 Well, for magnesium--well, Dr. Peat, what do you say about coffee and acidity? 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:43.000 Well, decaf is fine as a source of niacin and magnesium, 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:54.000 but another good source of all the minerals, but especially magnesium, is well-cooked green leaves. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:07.000 The undercooked greens aren't digestible and can actually increase your inflammatory nitric oxide and such. 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:17.000 Irritation of the intestine from starchy, undercooked vegetable matter will-- 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:27.000 Increasing the nitric oxide, that causes water retention, causes the intestine to suck up water and put it into the bloodstream, 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.000 but it causes the kidneys to lose sodium. 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:45.000 So the problem that happens with a lot of stress and degenerative conditions is centered around the water retention, 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:51.000 and the imbalance produced by losing sodium too fast. 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:56.000 So first aid is just to get your minerals up. 00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:10.000 For example, resuscitation can be done more efficiently with extremely hyperosmotic concentrated mineral solution, 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:17.000 sodium chloride, for example, six or seven times more concentrated than the physiological solution. 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:27.000 Just injecting a small amount of that can bring a person out of shock because it inhibits the formation of nitric oxide, 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:34.000 helps the kidneys retain sodium, and starts the system producing energy. 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:44.000 But just making sure that your daily diet includes plenty of sodium and the other alkaline metals is very helpful. 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.000 Okay, we do actually have three other callers, so I don't want to-- 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.000 Well, can I just add one more thing? 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:51.000 Sure, sure. 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:52.000 Because you're talking about Alzheimer's. 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:59.000 I learned that turmeric, this herb, can be very helpful for Alzheimer's because Alzheimer's can be a result of iron deposits in the brain, 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.000 and just as much as turmeric can remove free radical iron from the joints and blood system, it removes it from the brain. 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.000 So just a real answer to Alzheimer's, too. 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.000 We can leave it at that. Thank you. 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.000 Okay, no problem. You're welcome. 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.000 Okay, so let's get these next callers. 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:18.000 You're on the air? 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.000 Yes, this is David in Missouri. 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.000 Hey, David. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:31.000 This is a question, a very general question, about learned helplessness, and I think we can define this as learned helplessness. 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:37.000 You know, I'm just looking at what's going on in the world right now, and especially in this country and Europe. 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:50.000 You have all these different things occurring, such as NSA and possibly going to war in Syria when, you know, 92% of the people are against it, 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:56.000 and just on and on and on, all these different things that the government are actually engaged in, 00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:04.000 and, you know, you have all these different people that either want to put their head in the fan, or there are people that want to fight, 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:10.000 and there are all these people in between, and I'm just curious, Dr. Peat, what you think about, you know, 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:19.000 I'm also saying this in the context of the rats that are, you know, put into a situation where they can't fight back, 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:25.000 or they can fight back, and the difference between there being hope and then they're just giving up. 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.000 Do you think about that very much in terms of humanity? 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:33.000 Oh, that was exactly why I decided to write this newsletter right now. 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:49.000 I've been following the research actually since 1960, and it was especially the social behavior of the government 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:59.000 and how they have manipulated the press and the public helplessness, actually. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.000 It's been designed since the late 1940s. 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:17.000 It's been actual government policy to manipulate the mass media and events to create helplessness in the population. 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:26.000 You know, and I guess I'm just hoping that everybody listening, that we don't see this as being negative, 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:34.000 but we see this as, you know, we all have to be engaged in standing up against everything that's going on 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:42.000 because it's just awesome, the force that's being exerted against the people, you know, in Europe and here and everywhere. 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.000 It's mass media, Floyd. 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:54.000 People are surely as smart as rats, and rats just needed a little hint of a possibility of escape. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:41:00.000 Yeah, and you know, it's almost like what we're really lacking is intelligence and creativity, 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.000 which I know you talk about a lot. 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.000 It's obvious that these things have been suppressed. 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:12.000 I mean, like you say, it's an active program to condition and brainwash 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.000 and just cause us not even to really even think about resisting. 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.000 You know, it's like, "Wow, wake up." 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:24.000 You know, it's like, "This is a very small amount of people that are in control, 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.000 and we've got, you know, seven billion people on the planet." 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.000 You know, it's like, "Wow, okay. Well, I guess that's how it is, huh?" 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.000 So anyway, that was one of my things. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:40.000 I just keep thinking about, you know, all the dynamics of the health of the organism 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:47.000 and the psychological aspects and, you know, all these things that are going on right now. 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.000 It's got to have a profound effect on the health of human beings, you know. 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.000 It's just amazing. 00:41:53.000 --> 00:42:00.000 In one of the studies in which rats had been taught learned helplessness, 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.000 so they would drown in five or six minutes, 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:15.000 just being able to see another rat escape would let the informed rat go for days without drowning. 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.000 Just the recognition that someone else did it can make all the difference. 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.000 Yep. Amen. 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.000 Wow, that's something. 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.000 Well, I hope we all resist, whoever's listening. 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.000 So anyway, I have one just other really quick question, 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.000 and I know there are no definite answers to these things. 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:40.000 I know there's a lot of variables, but I raise my own chickens, and I really feed them healthy. 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.000 You know, they're pretty much free-range. 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.000 They eat all organic, non-GMO. 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.000 In fact, I grow a lot of the feed that I feed them. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.000 And I'm curious, if you know where that egg's coming from, 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.000 is there a benefit to eating these raw? 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000 It does not bother me putting an egg in a glass and drinking it, 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.000 but sometimes I think maybe there's a bacteria in there, 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:07.000 especially what I've learned from you, that maybe we don't want that in the stomach, you know. 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:13.000 I'm just curious, is the egg actually better for you raw rather than lightly cooking it 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.000 or a hard-boiled egg being just as good, 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:23.000 or maybe all of them having different variants of nutrition depending on, you know, how it's prepared? 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:28.000 In moderate amounts, even raw eggs are fine, very digestible, 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.000 and they're antiseptic in the raw state. 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:46.000 So they've seen the raw egg yolk kill viruses that other related chemicals weren't able to destroy. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.000 Well, you know, they say you shouldn't wash the eggs because they will spoil quicker 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:56.000 and because there's actually a natural envelope around the egg of bacteria. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.000 Have you heard that? 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.000 Oh, yeah. 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.000 Oh, okay. 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.000 So is there a benefit to eating raw eggs, overcooking them, 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:10.000 because you're going to get certain types of vitamins and minerals in the fats maybe that -- 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.000 I'm thinking they're probably polyunsaturated fats to a certain degree. 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:17.000 Are those fats maybe better because they're not cooked? 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:24.000 If they would be -- if the chickens were fed a more saturated diet like they used to 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:32.000 with orchard waste, apples that were spoiling and away from the cheese industry, 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:41.000 then the animals eating those foods -- in Mexico, 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:46.000 old tortillas are fed to the chickens regularly with chopped fruit and vegetables. 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.000 Yeah, these guys eat everything. 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.000 I mean, they eat fruit. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:55.000 They've been eating watermelon now for days, and they eat cantaloupe and, you know, and seeds. 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.000 So the sugar in that instance is what's giving them the -- 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:05.000 Yeah, that makes the egg fat much safer. 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.000 And in the raw state, it has that germicidal effect. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:23.000 And I've known several people who cured their leukemia by drinking eggnogs, fruit juice, milk and raw eggs. 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.000 And then just one other question regarding a raw product. 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.000 And, again, I think I understand where you're coming from, you know, 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.000 from different things that you said regarding milk. 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:39.000 And there really not being a problem with it being pasteurized because it's still such a high-quality food. 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.000 But if you're sourcing raw milk that the cows are pretty much just eating grass 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.000 and you're obviously not having an allergic reaction, 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:53.000 is it better as far as the nutrients to drink it raw, if you can find that? 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.000 Yeah, slightly better. 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.000 Okay. 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.000 But it's not that big of a deal. 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.000 No, if you have really good milk, it's okay to pasteurize it, 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:08.000 but it's slightly better in the raw state. 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:09.000 Okay. 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.000 All right. I better hold you there. Thank you for your call. 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.000 Thank you. 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:13.000 Yeah, you're very welcome. 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.000 We do have another caller on the line. 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.000 I want to make sure we get to them and anyone else who'd like to call in. 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.000 So, next caller, you're on the air? 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.000 Hey, this is Pat up in Bayside. 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:25.000 Hi, Pat. What's your question? 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:34.000 I just had a question about 5-HTP, namely if you think it's safe to take as a supplement. 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.000 Dr. Peat, did you hear that? 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.000 Well, it does tend to increase serotonin, 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:46.000 and serotonin, like histamine, can increase nitric oxide 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:54.000 and set those inflammatory processes in motion. 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.000 So, 5-HTP is not a good thing to take? 00:46:58.000 --> 00:46:59.000 It is not? 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:05.000 It's not, no. Did you hear Dr. Peat's explanation? 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:13.000 Well, any form of tryptophan tends to increase the serotonin, 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:23.000 and the serotonin tends to increase those inflammatory things, estrogen and nitric oxide. 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.000 Okay. So, that's not good? 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.000 No. 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:28.000 All right. 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.000 You shouldn't take it. 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.000 Okay. You're welcome. 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.000 Okay. So, we've got 10 minutes left. 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.000 People would like to call in. It's 1-800-KMUD-RAD. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.000 We're joined by Dr. Raymond Peat. 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.000 We're talking about some generalized questions now about thyroid 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.000 and people's misconceptions about it. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.000 I think I get asked fairly frequently these days, 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.000 "Does thyroid do this? Does it do that? What about this? What about that?" 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.000 I thought best just to answer some questions very quickly. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.000 People think about thyroid hormone as being a stimulant, Dr. Peat, 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.000 and that they'll get problems with high blood pressure if they take thyroid. 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.000 I know it's not true, but would you just explain that? 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:13.000 Yeah. I was just previously mentioning that hypothyroid people have increased nitric oxide, 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:19.000 but at the same time, they have a tendency of too much contraction of the blood vessels 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.000 and high blood pressure. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:32.000 So, at least nitric oxide isn't able to maintain a good blood flow if your thyroid is low. 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:43.000 I think the basic thing that relaxes the blood vessels produced by thyroid hormone is carbon dioxide. 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:52.000 Hypothyroid people tend to have chronically increased lactic acid in their blood, 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.000 which displaces carbon dioxide. 00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:02.000 Carbon dioxide relaxes blood vessels in a very different way 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:09.000 than the interfering with energy supply that nitric oxide does. 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:18.000 Carbon dioxide retains a high energy level while relaxing, 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:26.000 partly just by changing the electrical pH behavior of the cell. 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:32.000 It acidifies the cell, which relaxes it. 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:41.000 That relaxing effect of increasing carbon dioxide from higher thyroid function 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:50.000 makes your capillaries and arterioles relax and let the blood flow through, 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:56.000 providing oxygen to the tissues, which then produce more carbon dioxide 00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:01.000 and keep the system active and circulating. 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:12.000 Carbon dioxide and thyroid both tend to increase the stroke volume of the heart 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.000 the same way progesterone does, 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.000 where the parasympathetic nervous system and estrogen decrease the stroke volume 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.000 and weaken the heart. 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:33.000 Thyroid has an energizing but relaxing function. 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:42.000 It increases the ability of cells to retain magnesium 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:49.000 because magnesium is bound to the ATP energy carrying molecule. 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:56.000 By increasing the oxidation of the cell to produce ATP, 00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:06.000 the cell then binds magnesium and releases calcium, which is the excitatory thing. 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:12.000 If you have magnesium in your system and are producing carbon dioxide, 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:18.000 your cells will retain the relaxing magnesium. 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:24.000 You can see that in the way your muscles work your heart. 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:30.000 It shows up in the electrocardiogram as a quick repolarization, 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.000 getting ready and relaxed, ready for a new stimulation. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:42.000 In your brain, it shows up as a quick transition from wakefulness into sleep at night 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:47.000 without having to go through a lot of preparation. 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:59.000 The brain is able to quickly relax by increasing its ATP and oxygen and carbon dioxide. 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.000 Excellent. 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.000 Okay, listen, we do have a few more callers, Dr. Peat. 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.000 So perhaps we should see if we can quickly get each one through 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.000 so the next person has a chance to ask their question. 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.000 So let's take the first caller. 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.000 Quick and easy through me. 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.000 Are you aware of Hawthorne University in White Thorne 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.000 and are you a part of that? 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.000 You know what? 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.000 No, I'm not. 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.000 That's a great question. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.000 How about the next caller? 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:26.000 You're on the air? 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.000 Hello? 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:28.000 Yeah, you're on the air. 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.000 Hi. 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.000 I have a lot of questions, so I'll ask a short one. 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.000 I understand that there's a Dr. Horowitz, among other people, 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:44.000 who claim that listening to sounds at 528 hertz will heal DNA. 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.000 What is your understanding of this? 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:54.000 A good person to read on that issue would be Harold Hillman, 00:52:54.000 --> 00:53:04.000 who did experiments with it in England and got fired or got retired prematurely. 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.000 But it's definitely something. 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:15.000 Russian research in the early '70s showed that certain musical tones would cause muscle 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:20.000 to increase its ATP production, 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:30.000 and that was disregarded because the level of the energy in a given vibration 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:39.000 is considered to be too small to exceed the thermal agitation of the molecules of the muscle. 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:46.000 But actually the muscle is organized with long-range structures in the water, 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:54.000 which form, in effect, an antenna that can receive sound waves of these very low energies. 00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.000 So it's physically very plausible and verified by Harold Hillman. 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:01.000 Excellent. 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.000 Well, as always, thanks so much for that. 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.000 Obviously you're not saying like an emphatic yes, 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.000 but you're saying it's totally within the realm of possibility? 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.000 Yes. 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.000 Excellent. 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:12.000 We better take the next call. 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.000 I think we've got three or four more. 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:14.000 You do well. 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.000 Bye-bye now. 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.000 Yeah, thanks so much for your call. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.000 Next caller. 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:22.000 Do you believe in time management or energy management versus time management? 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.000 And it's always easier to ask your own questions. 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.000 I've got one last one, maybe. 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.000 I don't know. 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.000 I think that was a rhetorical question. 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.000 We've got an engineer with a rhetorical question. 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:39.000 No, that was an actual question from people, but people, I cannot give a complex question. 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.000 I can give a three-word question for you, 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:45.000 and I think we're actually out of time for callers today. 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.000 It's 7.54, though, engineer. 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:48.000 We've got plenty of time. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:54.000 If you can get a 30-second question in with a one-minute response, please call 923-3911. 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.000 So are you saying there's no more callers on the air or not? 00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:58.000 Correct. 00:54:58.000 --> 00:54:59.000 They dropped. 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:00.000 Okay, fine. 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.000 Okay, well, we've got five minutes left here, Dr. Peat. 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:07.000 So how about a very quick breakdown of cholesterol's control by thyroid? 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.000 Okay. 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.000 In three minutes. 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:21.000 In the 1930s, it was demonstrated and graphs were published showing that when a person's thyroid gland was removed, 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:28.000 as their metabolic rate declined, the blood cholesterol increased. 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:33.000 And when they were given a supplement of thyroid, it was just like a mirror image. 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.000 As the metabolic rate increased, the cholesterol declined. 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.000 And at the time, that was just a gross empirical observation, 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:54.000 but it allowed many doctors to diagnose hypothyroidism simply by looking at elevated cholesterol in the blood. 00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.000 It was one of the well-recognized signs of hypothyroidism. 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:12.000 But when the essential fatty acid lowering of the cholesterol and drugs to lower cholesterol came on the scene, 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:17.000 it was discouraged, the connection between thyroid and cholesterol, 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:25.000 because it was too simple to cure high cholesterol, to correct it, despite correcting the thyroid function. 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:36.000 But how it works is that it activates the conversion of cholesterol to primarily pregnenolone and progesterone. 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:44.000 And that was demonstrated by pumping blood into an ovary and measuring the amount of cholesterol going in 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.000 and the amount of progesterone coming out. 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:54.000 If they decreased the cholesterol in the blood, the ovary produced less progesterone. 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:55.000 Excellent. 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:56.000 OK. 00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.000 Well, it is 7.57. 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.000 We still have three minutes left, but I won't go on too much because we don't want to go over time. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.000 So thank you very much, Dr. Peat. 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:09.000 I'll just let people know how they can get hold of your material and find out more about you. 00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:10.000 OK. 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:11.000 Thanks so much for your time again. 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:12.000 Thank you. 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:13.000 I really appreciate it. 00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:14.000 OK. 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:18.000 Well, I know we had a bunch of people there who wanted to ask questions and unfortunately didn't have enough time. 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.000 Maybe we should open up the airways at 7.20 next time. 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:22.000 Who knows? 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