WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:26.000 [Music] 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:30.000 Well welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.480 For those of you who perhaps have never listened to the show which runs every 00:00:33.480 --> 00:00:37.480 third Friday of the month from 7 till 8 p.m. I'm a licensed medical herbalist 00:00:37.480 --> 00:00:41.320 who trained in England and graduated there with a degree in herbal medicine. 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:45.520 I run a clinic in Garboville where I consult with clients about a wide range 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.280 of conditions and recommend herbal medicine and dietary advice. So you're 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:54.440 listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMED Garboville 91.1 FM and from 7.30 until 00:00:54.440 --> 00:00:58.280 the end of the show at 8 o'clock you're invited to call in with any questions 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:03.080 either related or unrelated to this month's subject of "You Are What You Eat". 00:01:03.080 --> 00:01:08.200 The number here if you live in the area is 923 3911 or if you live outside the 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:17.240 area the toll-free number is 1-800-568-3723. So you are what you eat. 00:01:17.240 --> 00:01:21.840 This phrase has come to us via quite a tortuous route 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:28.920 Anthelm Brilat Savarin wrote in Physiology du Gout ou Meditation des Gastronomies 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:34.000 Transcendentes in 1826 saying "Tell me what you eat and I will tell you what 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.240 you are." In an essay titled "Concerning Spiritualism and Materialism 1863 to 00:01:42.240 --> 00:01:50.360 1864" Ludwig Andreas Feuerbach wrote "De Mensch ist was er ist" so that 00:01:50.360 --> 00:01:56.000 translates into English "As man is what he eats". Neither Brilat Savarin or 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.520 Feuerbach meant their quotations to be taken literally. They were stating that 00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:06.920 the food one eats has a bearing on one's state of mind or and/or health. The actual 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:12.520 phrase didn't emerge in English until some time later. In the 1920s and 30s the 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:17.000 nutritionist Victor Lindler who was a strong believer in the idea that food 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:22.280 controls health developed the catabolic diet. Now that view gained some 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:27.080 adherence at the time and the earliest known printed example is from an advert 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:31.880 for beef in a 1923 edition of the Bridgeport Telegraph for United Meat 00:02:31.880 --> 00:02:37.600 Markets. In Australia as elsewhere nearly half of the population will experience a 00:02:37.600 --> 00:02:41.480 mental health problem at some point in their lives and this means even people 00:02:41.480 --> 00:02:45.200 who are not personally affected are likely to know someone who has 00:02:45.200 --> 00:02:49.280 experienced such an illness and research now suggests that depression and 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:55.240 dementia are affected by the quality of our diets across the life course. Indeed 00:02:55.240 --> 00:03:00.020 studies from countries as diverse as Norway, Spain, Japan, China, the United 00:03:00.020 --> 00:03:04.120 Kingdom, the United States and Australia show people whose diets are healthier 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:10.000 are less likely to experience depression. The most recent evidence points to the 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.480 importance of the mother's diets for the mental and physical health of their 00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:20.240 children and I know Dr. Raymond Peat has been very keen to point out that 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.760 mother's nutrition is extremely important setting up the child's future 00:03:24.760 --> 00:03:29.640 and Dr. Peat is with us in the show in a few minutes here we'll be introducing 00:03:29.640 --> 00:03:33.480 Dr. Peat and hearing his perspective on You Are What You Eat because I know he has 00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:39.720 some very unique ways and perspectives of looking at this subject. Now 00:03:39.720 --> 00:03:43.320 the role of nutrition on development is an obvious one but mostly ignored or 00:03:43.320 --> 00:03:48.640 overlooked in the perspective of health and well-being and the concept of 00:03:48.640 --> 00:03:54.520 homeostasis that is the constancy of the inner environment or internal 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.720 milieu was first originally formulated by the French physiologist Claude 00:03:58.720 --> 00:04:04.360 Bernard who was alive from 1813 to 1878 and he was a French 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:09.080 physiologist. Well Dr. Peat thanks so much for joining us. 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:14.400 Okay so as always people who have tuned into the show who may not have heard you 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.280 I would appreciate if you would give an outline of your academic and 00:04:18.280 --> 00:04:23.160 professional background before we get into tonight's subject. After I had 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:29.160 studied in the humanities and taught art and English and various things I 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:37.600 decided to go back to graduate school in biology at 1968 University of Oregon and 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:48.000 wrote my dissertation on the age-related changes in oxidative metabolism in the 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:58.120 hamster uterus and how it affects fertility with aging and that involved 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:06.200 hormones and nutrition among other things and how the environment affects 00:05:06.200 --> 00:05:15.880 those factors especially the efficiency of metabolism using oxygen and since 00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:21.160 then I've been writing and doing consultations and trying to figure 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:27.920 things out still working on some of those same themes oxidative metabolism 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:39.560 and aging the whole idea of metabolic efficiency is one of my current themes 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:48.640 Lindar that you just mentioned his idea of the catabolic diet was to choose 00:05:48.640 --> 00:05:57.880 foods for their metabolic inefficiency because people eating to satisfy their 00:05:57.880 --> 00:06:07.040 appetite tend to get fat on the available foods and he found that he 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:14.520 could get people to lose fat very consistently and quickly by choosing 00:06:14.520 --> 00:06:22.040 certain foods that increased their metabolic rate so that they could burn 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:29.920 calories faster than they were eating them that was in the 1920s when he did 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:40.760 that research and just by chance a few years later George Burr who was studying 00:06:40.760 --> 00:06:51.560 the effect of fats in the diet found if he made his rats deficient in the 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:59.240 unsaturated fatty acids they burned calories at a terrific rate as much as 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:09.280 50% faster than normal and he thought that was bad and he became very popular 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:18.520 with the agricultural industry because they found that feeding those poly 00:07:18.520 --> 00:07:25.760 unsaturated fats to pigs and chickens and such they would gain weight quickly 00:07:25.760 --> 00:07:31.440 and cheaply without eating very much food just the opposite of what Lindar 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:36.960 wanted to do was to find foods that would decrease the efficiency of the 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:44.720 metabolism so that people would produce heat without gaining weight. Do you know 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.360 what kind of foods Lindlar advocated? Lots of fruits and vegetables including 00:07:50.360 --> 00:08:02.400 fruit juices. Okay. The standard nutritional education emphasizes the 00:08:02.400 --> 00:08:10.560 concept of specific dynamic action or the thermogenic effect of various foods 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:19.920 and it's widely recognized that eating protein increases your body temperature 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:29.840 and heat production. Okay. By quite a bit 15 or 20 percent and sugar a little less 00:08:29.840 --> 00:08:34.320 than that. I know you've mentioned I don't mean to interrupt but I know you've 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:41.320 mentioned quite a lot in the past about coconut being thermogenic. Coconut oil. 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:50.120 Sorry. Yeah I think there are many reasons for that and the coconut is a 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:58.320 very highly saturated fat and it happens that the unsaturated fats interfere with 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:07.760 the mitochondrial use of oxygen in several ways by producing free radicals 00:09:07.760 --> 00:09:13.840 inflammation and by interfering in a variety of ways with thyroid hormone 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:21.800 function. So all along the line the polyunsaturated fats slow down oxidative 00:09:21.800 --> 00:09:29.840 metabolism and so if your body is soaked in these conventional seed oils 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:39.560 then when you eat coconut oil especially the shorter very mobile fatty acids 00:09:39.560 --> 00:09:45.440 that are only a third or half as long as the standard fats these move in the 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:52.040 cells very quickly and oxidize without that antithyroid effect the seed oils 00:09:52.040 --> 00:10:00.200 mostly have. Okay interesting. Okay so Victor Landler then came up with the 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:08.480 the paper on catabolic a catabolic diet so the opposite of anabolism which is to 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:13.640 build muscle and catabolism is to break it down with the production of heat. 00:10:13.640 --> 00:10:23.520 Yeah in the 50s and 60s people were experimenting with what kind of diet is 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:30.160 efficient for losing fat and still maintaining your health. They did 00:10:30.160 --> 00:10:39.160 experiments in which people would just have pure water for 10 days or 14 days 00:10:39.160 --> 00:10:44.120 and then they would analyze what happened to their bodies and they found 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:49.280 that they lost almost pure fat a pure protein during that time very little fat 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:55.680 right right okay and if they have eight maybe six to eight hundred calories per 00:10:55.680 --> 00:11:01.880 day during that same 10 to 14 days they would lose mostly fat and very little 00:11:01.880 --> 00:11:06.120 protein. Interesting because that's the muscle mass that a person loses when 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:10.640 they fast or for example if they're using like you said that water for 10 00:11:10.640 --> 00:11:14.040 days that you touch the first thing is you lose as your muscle mass isn't it? 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:20.120 Yeah and that's why so many women are dieting constantly and getting fatter 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:26.640 because. Explain that a little will you. If they eat an extremely low calorie 00:11:26.640 --> 00:11:33.920 diet creating stress the high cortisol and other stress hormones cause them to 00:11:33.920 --> 00:11:42.240 break down their protein and their big muscles shrink so that a typical 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:50.320 dieter will you can hardly see her calf muscles become so atrophied then the big 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:57.760 skeletal muscles even at rest burn fat to maintain themselves. Okay. Almost a 00:11:57.760 --> 00:12:05.560 pure fat diet when they're at rest. Okay. And so the more dieting they do if they 00:12:05.560 --> 00:12:11.960 do it extremely the smaller their muscles get and the easier it is to get fat the 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:17.800 next time they eat a normal diet. Right and you said with the addition of how 00:12:17.800 --> 00:12:23.560 much how much fat was the addition that caused the the protein to be conserved 00:12:23.560 --> 00:12:32.080 in that diet? Oh they fed them different foods like a mixed diet a little 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:39.620 protein a little carbohydrate and not especially a low fat intake but just so 00:12:39.620 --> 00:12:47.240 that they they were able to get some of their calorie needs from the diet rather 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:55.760 than from their tissues because when you're in the first day on a fast your 00:12:55.760 --> 00:13:04.360 body uses up the sugar that's stored as glycogen and as soon as your blood 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:11.760 sugar falls because you've used up your stores then your cortisol rises first 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:19.800 the adrenaline and the cortisol and the cortisol having no food available it 00:13:19.800 --> 00:13:29.040 starts converting your thymus gland and the big skeletal muscles mostly to free 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:36.080 amino acids which then can be some of them are converted to glucose to feed 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:43.640 your blood cells and brain and eyes and so on because those have an absolute 00:13:43.640 --> 00:13:55.440 requirement for glucose and so even a plain sugar diet to supply that minimal 00:13:55.440 --> 00:14:01.840 amount of your brain and blood cells are required that will greatly prevent the 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:11.280 rising cortisol and loss of good tissue. Okay you listen to Ask Your Ob Doctor on 00:14:11.280 --> 00:14:17.360 KMUD Garboville 91.1 FM and from 730 until the end of the show you're invited 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.960 to call in with any questions either related or unrelated to this month's 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:26.200 topic of you are what you eat we're joined by Dr. Raymond Peat and he has a 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.120 wealth of experience and knowledge that he's currently sharing and Dr. Peat it's 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.920 it's well established I just want to jump onto this next subject of and 00:14:33.920 --> 00:14:39.520 probably spend a little bit more time on what's coming out in science about the 00:14:39.520 --> 00:14:44.400 what they call the microbiome of a person's body it's well established that 00:14:44.400 --> 00:14:48.960 your gut apparently is your second brain providing more input to your brain than 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:54.200 the brain provides to it and this is why your gut health is largely related in 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:59.720 your gut bacteria including your mental health and emotional well-being 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:04.080 so it's been there's quite a few quite a few journal articles that have come out 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:09.680 in 2013 and 2014 about the microbiome and making links as specifically to 00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:17.960 disease processes and the microbiome and I know that you advocate several several 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:25.320 dietary factors that I think inadvertently are modulating if you 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:30.920 like the microbiome and I think they the science bringing about the explanation 00:15:30.920 --> 00:15:35.040 of the microbiome is now justifying what you're saying about for example 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:42.280 indigestible fibers like bamboo shoots carrots etc as being healthful in terms 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:46.760 of their modulating the microbial content of the gut and along with things 00:15:46.760 --> 00:15:50.480 like cascara and now you talk a lot about cascara not just for bowel 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:55.400 motility and improving bowel function and waste clearance but also 00:15:55.400 --> 00:16:01.200 because the cascara itself has a cyclic structure quite similar to 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:07.200 tetracycline in terms of it being a similar antibiotic in the gut and how 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:14.520 this affecting bacterial colonies in a positive way to remove bad bacteria 00:16:14.520 --> 00:16:21.120 naturally allows normal healthy bacteria to flourish and therefore modulate the 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:29.360 the gut as an organism yeah and it's interesting that both imodin from 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:37.120 cascara or a Chinese rhubarb and such and tetracycline and related minocycline 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:43.000 and doxycycline these are anti-inflammatory as well as antiseptic 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:54.160 and imodin and the tetracyclines have a surprising range of good effects 00:16:54.160 --> 00:17:01.880 anti-inflammatory and probably mood improving minocycline is being found to 00:17:01.880 --> 00:17:12.120 prevent possibly improve dementia Alzheimer's disease and imodin has every 00:17:12.120 --> 00:17:17.800 year it seems like there are half a dozen new functions that are found for 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:27.280 imodin including improving the flora of the intestine. Imodin am I right in 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:33.080 thinking that imodin is also present in aloe vera? Yeah yeah lots of plant yeah 00:17:33.080 --> 00:17:42.120 generally they're laxative plants but the you know it isn't the typical purging 00:17:42.120 --> 00:17:48.440 kind of laxative if the imodin if the cascara isn't properly aged right it 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:56.280 does have an irritating purging effect but aging makes it insoluble in water 00:17:56.280 --> 00:18:02.880 comparatively and it loses the irritating inflammatory property and 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:08.360 becomes anti-inflammatory and sedative and it actually increases the production 00:18:08.360 --> 00:18:17.240 of energy while having a nerve calming sedative effect. And this again is that 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.640 red compound that you've mentioned in the past that has been is 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:28.480 energetically favorable in terms of its both electron quenching activity and its 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:37.360 anti-inflammatory activity? Yeah as sort of a sideline to my research in graduate 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:47.000 school on what causes oxidative metabolism to go down with aging I would 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:55.080 look for all kinds of plant and animals that were colored and do extracts and 00:18:55.080 --> 00:19:00.920 look for things that stimulated oxidative metabolism and I got the 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:08.120 interest partly from St. Georgie's work he found that the the color of cells is 00:19:08.120 --> 00:19:14.080 closely connected to the oxidative process for example the deep maroon or 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:20.360 purple color of the liver and certain areas of the brain are deeply pigmented 00:19:20.360 --> 00:19:27.240 he knew that it didn't have any the usual functions of pigment and he found 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:37.160 that it was related to well he knew that semiconductors are generally black 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:43.240 because of a peculiar electronic arrangement that causes them to absorb 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:50.120 all the light that hits them and he figured that the life process involves 00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:57.400 semiconduction and so pigments are especially relevant to the use of energy 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:04.080 and living things. That's right I mean in terms of transporting electrons from 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:08.880 one phase to another and therefore carrying either electrical charge 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:17.560 as a form of energy. Yeah I think last month we were talking about methylene 00:20:17.560 --> 00:20:30.440 blue an artificial electron transporter and it can like vitamin C vitamin C in 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:37.360 this normal form isn't a pigment but it has some of the same electronic 00:20:37.360 --> 00:20:45.480 behaviors both of those can pick up electrons from nutrients such as glucose 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:53.880 and pass them into the mitochondrion even if the first two units of the 00:20:53.880 --> 00:21:01.600 mitochondrion are damaged methylene blue and vitamin C and probably many other 00:21:01.600 --> 00:21:10.160 natural pigments can deliver energy electrons down to the third complex of 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:15.560 the mitochondrion and allow it to keep function functioning even after a 00:21:15.560 --> 00:21:22.760 serious damage and so part of that function is to stop producing free 00:21:22.760 --> 00:21:28.280 radicals which are mostly produced in the upper part of the electron transport 00:21:28.280 --> 00:21:35.680 chain as it's being damaged. Okay so getting on to the kind of wider topic 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:40.400 of you are what you eat I think probably just to bring out some of those things 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:46.880 that you mentioned for many different conditions or processes that can be 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:53.680 corrected by various I mean you prescribe a lot of dietary advice in 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:58.880 terms of modulating the way people's physiology is working and therefore 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:04.520 bringing people back to good health in a very natural way with no side effects 00:22:04.520 --> 00:22:11.480 it's not a drug orientated approach as very nutritional and I know obviously 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:16.160 you're very keen on saturated fats as opposed to the polys and the poly 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:22.040 unsaturated being very detrimental to health obviously sugar I know you talk a 00:22:22.040 --> 00:22:27.800 lot about fruit juices and fructose in particular as an energy promoter in 00:22:27.800 --> 00:22:34.240 terms of you are what you eat the the gut bacteria and the bacteria within the 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:40.960 bowel and what do you know from the studies that have been done on 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:48.960 the mood for example and or autism in children that have have shown some 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:54.120 definite correlation between gut bacteria and their intestinal flora and 00:22:54.120 --> 00:23:01.560 the intestinal flora in populations that are not suffering with autism and how how 00:23:01.560 --> 00:23:07.840 I think in the future perhaps the the antibiotics that are very useful and I 00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:11.680 know you're an advocate of antibiotics and I know most people unfortunately 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:17.440 have a mistaken belief that antibiotics are bad I think just from the cases 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.760 where maybe females are getting thrush after using antibiotics it conjures up 00:23:21.760 --> 00:23:26.040 this kind of popular myth or popular notion that antibiotics are bad but 00:23:26.040 --> 00:23:30.120 actually we know that they're very positive influences on our physiology 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:35.160 and especially on our gut for wiping out bad bacteria but what's your thought 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:42.280 about altering the so-called microbiome of the body so that specific bacteria 00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:48.560 that are known to be detrimental to health can be eradicated and leaving the 00:23:48.560 --> 00:23:53.080 positive bacteria behind to actually influence the populations within the 00:23:53.080 --> 00:24:02.140 digestive tract about 1990 I read an article from a fertility clinic in which 00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:10.720 a lot of the women were trying to conceive and the fertilized ovum just 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:18.360 wouldn't implant and the doctors thought that might indicate that there was an 00:24:18.360 --> 00:24:24.080 infection in the uterus so they gave all of their patients a course of 00:24:24.080 --> 00:24:32.200 antibiotics and besides improving their fertility a lot of the patients said 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:38.320 suddenly that their chronic headaches had disappeared and so they gave them 00:24:38.320 --> 00:24:44.760 hormone tests to see what was going on and causing both fertility to improve 00:24:44.760 --> 00:24:48.600 and headaches and other symptoms to disappear they found that the 00:24:48.600 --> 00:24:56.760 antibiotics had lowered their cortisol and estrogen production and increased 00:24:56.760 --> 00:25:05.960 progesterone their serum explaining the increased fertility but a whole range of 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:13.960 other symptoms related to stress and following reading about that I suggested 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:22.840 that because I knew that the estrogen which is excreted by a healthy liver in 00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:31.720 the vial is much of it is reabsorbed and stays in the circulation if you have a 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:38.360 sluggish intestine and so I suggested that if they eat a carrot every day to 00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:45.240 stimulate the intestine the carrot will bind the vial and lower the serum 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.680 estrogen level that's now generally accepted that any fiber tends to lower 00:25:51.680 --> 00:26:01.120 your absorption of estrogen from the vial and within three or four days these 00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:06.400 people tested their estrogen cortisol and progesterone and it was doing the 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:13.920 same thing that the synthetic antibiotics had done and knowing about 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:19.560 carrots and they can get very tiresome if you eat one of these for years I looked 00:26:19.560 --> 00:26:25.160 around for other foods that were antiseptic yeah I'd have that same 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:32.480 effect and bamboo shoots are something that you don't get too tired of they 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.960 don't have much flavor so you can put them in a lot of different foods and 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:43.080 cooking a bamboo shoot doesn't destroy the fiber the way it cooked carrot does 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:50.320 so you have to eat raw carrots or cooked bamboo shoots. Do you know of any other fibers Dr. Peat that have that effect? 00:26:50.320 --> 00:27:04.040 Mushrooms I think. Mushrooms? Yeah because they grow underground in a very decaying environment they have to have powerful 00:27:04.040 --> 00:27:10.200 antibiotics. Interesting do you not okay I suppose you surprise me when you say 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.680 mushrooms because I wouldn't have thought that would have been naturally 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.680 one thing that you would have said to someone would be okay to eat but you're 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:22.360 I don't know anything about mushrooms actually but except that principle yeah 00:27:22.360 --> 00:27:28.320 they are okay antiseptic and okay they have a high value protein and the 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:33.760 protein happens to be pretty low in methionine which is the most toxic of 00:27:33.760 --> 00:27:42.520 the amino acids. Methionine are the amino acids that most slow your metabolism and 00:27:42.520 --> 00:27:50.800 so you're getting two of the metabolic stimulants lowering the estrogen 00:27:50.800 --> 00:27:56.080 disinfecting your intestine. Okay hold it there Dr. Peat for a moment because we do I 00:27:56.080 --> 00:27:58.880 think we have one or two callers on the air so let's start let's just start with 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.920 the first caller and see where we're going with this. Caller you're on the air 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:08.960 and where you from? Hello is this me? Yes you're on the air where you from? Hey I'm 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:13.320 from Eastern Oregon. Eastern Oregon okay welcome to the show. Well thank you thank 00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:19.120 you for having me I just have a question the last month I developed very very 00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:23.360 high blood pressure that spikes very high and I don't have it running my 00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:30.160 family and I never had it before I had normal and what I did is about two months 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:37.320 ago I had increased had my t3 medicine increased a little bit and I got heart 00:28:37.320 --> 00:28:42.600 palpitations okay so I was titrating down off of that for over a period of 00:28:42.600 --> 00:28:47.040 six weeks and I still had the heart palpitations until I went to nothing and 00:28:47.040 --> 00:28:51.640 then I heard your show last month and I started magnesium and the heart 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.920 palpitations went away. Yeah we Dr. Peat mentioned that didn't he for 00:28:54.920 --> 00:29:01.320 palpitations. Yeah thank you so much but my but I also in October went on a silly 00:29:01.320 --> 00:29:06.160 little thing where I was trying to increase my body temperature because even 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:13.640 with the thyroid supplement it still is kind of low okay and I heard that if you 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:19.360 eat a lot of more sugar and salt and high dense foods that you can do that so 00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:22.960 I increased my salto quite a bit and I wasn't worried because I always have 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:29.320 low blood pressure medium low you know normal oh my and then and then over this 00:29:29.320 --> 00:29:34.840 last month my blood pressure has just skyrocketed and it was kind of scary and 00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:40.320 I went to the doctor now I'm on medicine but I was wondering could could coming 00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:46.960 down off of the thyroid which I went back on and and also that high salt diet 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:51.640 could that have contributed to this really crazy high blood pressure. Well 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.120 first the first thing's first let's just how much salt were you using? Quite a bit 00:29:56.120 --> 00:30:01.680 I just poured on everything and just throughout the day I don't I never 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:09.360 measured it or anything quite a bit. Yeah. More than I normally did. Yeah. My guess is maybe 00:30:09.360 --> 00:30:14.400 three or four thousand milligrams that like almost like two days worth in one 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.800 day I did that for a couple three weeks and I stopped. Okay. 00:30:18.800 --> 00:30:30.480 Was your TSH measured as part of the thyroid exam? When I first was on I've 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:36.680 been on T4 for six months and when they first started it it was like three but 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.800 then it went down to below zero yeah it's like point zero three or something 00:30:41.800 --> 00:30:50.960 it's way low. TSH causes a lot of the symptoms of hypothyroidism and so a T3 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:59.400 will cause your T4 to go down and if it goes too low your TSH might come up and 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:07.840 TSH does a lot of things that go with hypothyroidism including high blood 00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:15.400 pressure it makes your red cells more rigid your blood and serum more viscous 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:25.560 and it tightens up small blood vessels everything it does tends to create higher 00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:37.120 blood pressure so if your TSH is currently extremely low then you 00:31:37.120 --> 00:31:44.640 probably should have your other hormones such as adrenaline checked to see what 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:50.680 might be causing that. Dr. Peat you always advocate a TSH as close to zero 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:55.040 as possible just because it's a fairly inflammatory chaperone molecule anyway 00:31:55.040 --> 00:32:02.600 don't you? Yeah. Yeah so it's a caller your right your question has if you if 00:32:02.600 --> 00:32:08.720 you understood the answer or? Well I'm from what I understand is that my THC 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:14.920 if it gets pretty low as a T3 you'll make it lower and if you increase okay I 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:20.680 think I got mixed up I'm sorry so something about the TSH that extra T3 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:25.920 can cause it to start rising up again or am I incorrect? Yeah if you had lowered 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:32.960 your TSH by taking fairly large amounts of T4 thyroxine. It was 25 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:39.720 micrograms. Oh well that isn't very much. No but it was still low it got low under 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:49.160 one it got it became 0.03 or 0.04 it was really low and then I and then they and 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:54.440 then several months later I they incorporated T3 at 25 and I cut it in 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.320 fours and spread it throughout the day and I've done really well and that went 00:32:59.320 --> 00:33:04.000 on for a month and then they increased it another 25 which we made it 50 and I 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.680 split those throughout the day and in fours and then lo and behold I started 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.040 having heart palpitations at night and all these other symptoms and so I 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:17.120 titrated down and I don't know I went to the doctor because I was a little 00:33:17.120 --> 00:33:21.040 frightened and they said they checked my thyroid and they said it's fine but you 00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:28.640 know I know that numbers their numbers might not be optimal. Were the other 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:35.000 things like albumin and blood sugar okay? They didn't say I don't know I don't 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:41.800 know I suppose I can find out and they probably have the record so I can find 00:33:41.800 --> 00:33:46.240 out about the albumin. They didn't say they said all my lab was fine what they 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:54.880 said. Do you get a fairly balanced diet like with milk and cheese and eggs? Yes I 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.440 stopped doing that silly little thing I did for three weeks there with the extra 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.360 with the high dense different kind of eating and prior to that and since then 00:34:04.360 --> 00:34:12.080 I I drink milk a quart and a half or so and organic fresh squeezed orange juice 00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:25.640 quart and plus and and cheese and eggs yeah and and Great Lakes gelatin. Is 00:34:25.640 --> 00:34:30.920 there anything that might be irritating your digestive system sometimes that 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.440 can cause stress and increase pressure? No but do you think that maybe 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.720 that they may say that my numbers are fine and maybe they may not be as 00:34:41.720 --> 00:34:51.640 optimal as they could be like the TSH and I'm sorry what numbers did you ask? 00:34:51.640 --> 00:35:03.640 It's good to have albumin well above 40 okay and blood glucose anywhere 70 to 00:35:03.640 --> 00:35:13.160 110 should be okay yeah and potassium and sodium should be around the middle 00:35:13.160 --> 00:35:19.120 of the scale. Okay well they put me on medicines and now I'm on medicine so I'm 00:35:19.120 --> 00:35:23.360 a little leery about it but it was pretty scary it was up to like 200 and 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.800 over a hundred and then it would kind of go down and then it would fluctuate in 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:35.200 between that. Yeah sounds a lot like an alarm reaction a stress-related alarm 00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:40.760 reaction of adrenaline producing that kind of blood pressure because a thyroid 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.120 what do you think about thyroid hormone Dr. Peat and blood pressure I mean it's 00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:47.960 actually a regulator of high blood pressure when people get high blood 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:54.560 pressure generally they are subject to adrenaline and that other sympathetic 00:35:54.560 --> 00:35:59.160 you know hormones that drive blood pressure up and thyroid hormones 00:35:59.160 --> 00:36:03.880 specifically antagonizes that and brings blood pressure down into it. 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:10.160 Especially when it comes on quickly like that it's adrenaline or maybe 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:15.760 serotonin the reason I asked about any irritating food if you don't dissolve 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:22.000 the gelatin thoroughly sometimes that can cause gas and irritation by feeding 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.440 bacteria in the intestine. I don't dissolve it I kind of put it in my 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:31.000 orange juice and stir it and cold orange juice and drink it that way so I don't 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:36.080 like cook it or anything. I mix it in with the orange juice but I don't 00:36:36.080 --> 00:36:41.040 like my stomach's irritated but I don't know maybe it is and I don't know it I 00:36:41.040 --> 00:36:47.960 don't feel like it's causing gas but I thought if I started back up on the T3 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:54.320 like I had and I've been on it for several weeks maybe three weeks now that 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.680 maybe eventually it would normalize the blood pressure is that a possibility? 00:36:58.680 --> 00:37:06.880 Is your pulse rate about where it was? About where it was prior to all this? 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:15.680 Is it in the range of 70 to 90? Yeah it's always been around around that 00:37:15.680 --> 00:37:25.880 more towards the 70. Yeah it hasn't my pulse hasn't changed too much. Magnesium and 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:33.240 calcium are two nutrients that help to lower blood pressure but potassium is 00:37:33.240 --> 00:37:41.560 probably the most powerful. Orange juice is a very good source of potassium so a 00:37:41.560 --> 00:37:47.680 quart of orange juice spread out through the day. Okay. Not a potassium. I'm taking extra 00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:51.320 magnesium since that helps with the palpitations and I drink lots of milk 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:59.040 and orange juice. And one other nutrient that can powerfully lower blood 00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:06.120 pressure is vitamin K. For example the drops that deliver one milligram of 00:38:06.120 --> 00:38:15.160 vitamin K per drop. I know a doctor who for several months had his blood 00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:25.400 pressure had been 240 over 140 no 240 over 70 and within two or three weeks of 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:34.840 using a lot of vitamin K his pressure came down to 140 over 70. Okay. So vitamin 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:40.400 K in terms of a daily a daily trial of vitamin K what do you think would be a 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:47.880 reasonable? Well that doctor who got such extreme results was taking 40 or 50 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:55.000 milligrams per day. Right 40 or 50 drops of that. Yeah. Okay. Okay all right I wrote 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.960 all this down thank you so much. I also too though there they put me on 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:07.320 medicine now and I'm on lisinopril plus diuretic with it. So that might kind of 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:13.720 add to the mix now somehow I'm sure probably. Yeah I'm sure I'm sure the it 00:39:13.720 --> 00:39:16.640 will be difficult to tell what your proper blood pressure was all the time 00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:21.160 you're using something like lisinopril. Yeah I just started it I just started 00:39:21.160 --> 00:39:25.300 that well last two weeks and now they add and it didn't help and so now they 00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:30.720 added it with a diuretic. I don't know I didn't know what to say. You know it 00:39:30.720 --> 00:39:35.960 definitely sounds something more than anything to do with your thyroid that 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.200 you've been using because it's definitely very very short and very 00:39:40.200 --> 00:39:44.680 quick to come on you know it's a very rapid onset so as Dr. Peat was saying 00:39:44.680 --> 00:39:50.800 it's much more much more indicative of something hormone or a catecholamine 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:57.560 based that would have a such a rapid onset. Okay yeah it's probably a little 00:39:57.560 --> 00:40:02.040 bit outside of the scope of this talk show just a comment on this any further 00:40:02.040 --> 00:40:06.240 though but I appreciate your call. Thank you so much I appreciate you you too 00:40:06.240 --> 00:40:10.360 thank you. You're welcome. Okay so what other callers we have the next caller 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:19.540 you're on the air where you from? Missouri. Okay hi go ahead. Hello this is 00:40:19.540 --> 00:40:23.920 David from Missouri. Yeah go ahead David I didn't I think we got some 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.200 interference between you. Yeah well you know just so you know normally you would 00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:32.140 be able to hear the radio show when you're waiting on the phone and it's not 00:40:32.140 --> 00:40:35.680 doing that so I had to listen to that. Unfortunately there's some hum here in 00:40:35.680 --> 00:40:39.200 the studio that I can hear and whenever the lights flashing I also hear that too 00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:45.680 so I think there's some kind of it's it's not uncommon unfortunately. That's 00:40:45.680 --> 00:40:49.580 what I was saying normally you can hear the radio show while you have the phone 00:40:49.580 --> 00:40:53.640 you know listening to the phone while you're put on hold and you can't do that 00:40:53.640 --> 00:40:57.440 got it some reason so they're doing something differently. I'm not sure. 00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.960 Yeah you know one of the things does listening to the news cause high blood 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.800 pressure? Quite probably if it's bad news. That was one of the things you didn't 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:13.480 ask her so I quit listening to the news and my blood pressure went down. There you go. 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:23.640 But anyway you know I've heard for years that coconut oil is anti an antibiotic 00:41:23.640 --> 00:41:30.960 and also antifungal and number one I wanted to ask Dr. Peat if that is true 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.920 and then how would that work if that were the case and then also I think 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:42.480 along the same lines is you know I've heard him or I shouldn't say him Dr. 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:49.680 Peat I've heard you say that when you eat starch that the starch is able to 00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:53.080 get into the bloodstream and creates all sorts of problems in capillaries and 00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:58.760 different vessels and that the saturated fat helps to prevent that so how does 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:04.200 saturated fat help along those lines as well is it somehow coating the bacteria 00:42:04.200 --> 00:42:13.520 and the the molecules of starch? Yeah it slows digestion enough that it keeps 00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:21.720 things in an emulsion that the enzymes have time to start breaking down the 00:42:21.720 --> 00:42:32.720 starch particles. It isn't known exactly why that happens but Gerhardt 00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:41.040 I forgot his name at the moment the man who did the presorption research showed 00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:46.800 that the starch without fat would immediately in 15 or 20 minutes show up 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.520 in your bloodstream but with fat it didn't show up in the bloodstream and it 00:42:52.520 --> 00:43:00.720 probably is because it gives it time to break down a little bit but I think 00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:12.040 the most important effect of the fat is that germicidal action suppressing the 00:43:12.040 --> 00:43:19.840 bacteria that if your digestion is really working right your whole small 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:28.640 intestine should be sterile free of bacteria and sluggish digestion low 00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:35.200 thyroid people often get bacteria growing all the way up close to their 00:43:35.200 --> 00:43:43.160 stomach and in that case when you eat any starch it feeds the bacteria the 00:43:43.160 --> 00:43:53.160 bacteria produce endotoxin which causes your intestine to produce nitric oxide 00:43:53.160 --> 00:44:03.080 and serotonin and histamine and the nitric oxide is a very powerful poison 00:44:03.080 --> 00:44:10.320 of oxidative metabolism so the combination of bacteria especially in 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:17.800 the small intestine and any kind of starch that isn't quickly absorbed in 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:24.160 your bloodstream is going to feed the bacteria increase the nitric oxide and 00:44:24.160 --> 00:44:31.960 basically poison your respiratory metabolism all through your body many 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:41.440 years ago people experimenting with germ-free animals their whole life 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:51.760 they're isolated from bacteria and they have a very healthy life low mortality 00:44:51.760 --> 00:45:02.640 until extreme old age and they eat about 20 or 30 percent more calories than the 00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:13.880 ordinary germ-burying mice but they are leaner much smaller fat deposits and 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:24.200 they don't suffer from anxiety and how to explain that it means that the 00:45:24.200 --> 00:45:33.160 bacteria are producing something that poisons your metabolism the George Burr's 00:45:33.160 --> 00:45:40.000 research with the polyunsaturated fats he demonstrated that these fats have a 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:45.200 similar poisoning effect on your oxidative metabolism so that without 00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:55.960 them the animals burn 30 to 50 percent more energy without getting fat so the 00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:03.040 possibly polyunsaturated fats are contributing to the nitric oxide 00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:09.960 production but definitely the bacteria eating starch are a major source of this 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:16.800 anti-metabolic material and you know so is the coconut oil because of the short 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.040 chain and the medium chain possibly better in that action that you just 00:46:22.040 --> 00:46:28.720 described then say butter and no all of that really matter saturated fats are 00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:33.560 pretty good anti-fungal and antibacterials but I think the the 00:46:33.560 --> 00:46:42.040 shorter chain the athletes foot remedy that kills fungus very efficiently is an 00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:52.400 11 carbon saturated fat or a mono unsaturated and the shorter they are the 00:46:52.400 --> 00:47:02.080 faster they diffuse and apparently they're they're more active as a toxin 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:08.280 or antiseptic if they're a little shorter than the steric acid of butter 00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:15.640 but okay so so pop traditionally known as a good antiseptic and that's usually 00:47:15.640 --> 00:47:22.960 made with a steric acid you know dr. Peat based on several things that you've 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:28.000 recommended I you know I grow different bamboos and so I can't wait till the 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.440 spring because I'm going to try this soup and I'm just curious what you think 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.880 about it I'm going to use a acne juicer and I'm going to get the juice from 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:44.760 potatoes and then I was going to cook the bamboo sprouts in there and now that 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.920 I for some reason I always thought that you didn't think that mushrooms were 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:55.360 possibly good but I would love to have shiitake mushrooms in that soup and then 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.720 put plenty of butter and coconut oil and that do you think that's a in some salt 00:47:59.720 --> 00:48:05.360 do you think that's a decent soup I think so but it's really good to make 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:10.820 sure you don't get toxic mushrooms well you know I the only thing I grow is 00:48:10.820 --> 00:48:16.800 shiitake which is that is that possibly a good mushroom you know I have to 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.760 interject here and tell you that the only thing that I'm allergic to is 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.960 shiitake mushroom I came out in a widespread body rash and I couldn't 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.160 explain it first time around I thought it was very strange and I've contracted 00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:31.880 something serious I was seriously worried about it took about four weeks 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.520 for it to resolve and then again about four years later the same thing happened 00:48:36.520 --> 00:48:40.960 again and I made a connection I made a connection to shiitake mushrooms and as 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:46.160 you know I'm a I'm a naturopathic doctor and I work with extracts and I make 00:48:46.160 --> 00:48:50.480 extracts of shiitake mushrooms and the third time around when I was handling 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.960 shiitake mushroom powder the same thing happened I got a widespread rash over my 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:59.800 face and my hands where I'd been not just handling the product but must have 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.800 breathed some of it in and got it in contact with my face so I find it a very 00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.440 allergenic product so I would just put that out there that not just because 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:13.000 people were growing them for a while and eating them but I've been trying not to 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:18.720 you know consume too many but I've never seen a direct relationship to any kind 00:49:18.720 --> 00:49:23.640 of problems that you know that's the only thing I've ever been reactive to 00:49:23.640 --> 00:49:30.200 you know dr. Peat has talked about Gerald Pollack a few times and I listened 00:49:30.200 --> 00:49:34.600 to an interview recently that I thought might be interesting for everybody he 00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:40.760 was talking about grounding which I think I've mentioned before on a show 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:46.120 about you like walking barefoot and then the electrons flowing into the body from 00:49:46.120 --> 00:49:49.600 the earth and one of the things that he was mentioned he said of course there's 00:49:49.600 --> 00:49:54.760 no scientific studies to validate this but he you know he's really into the 00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:01.040 idea of structured water and he was saying how walking barefoot and getting 00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:07.960 natural sunlight could very possibly be helping to structure the water in the 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.080 body I thought that was pretty interesting kind of you know puts a few 00:50:12.080 --> 00:50:15.120 things that you've been talking about for a while does that make sense at all 00:50:15.120 --> 00:50:22.280 to you dr. Peat well definitely the flow of electrons is the basic thing that 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:30.960 structures water the when I talk about energy and structure I'm thinking about 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:38.040 the primarily first of all the fine layers of water adjoining proteins and 00:50:38.040 --> 00:50:46.000 fat in the cells and that's created and maintained by the flow of electrons 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:56.040 mostly from glucose to oxygen through the various catalysts and when that's 00:50:56.040 --> 00:51:02.840 interrupted when oxygen isn't able to keep pulling the electrons and this is 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:11.160 this flow of electrons that generates the structure just like if you stir a 00:51:11.160 --> 00:51:20.400 pot of spaghetti all the strings line up in certain direction is what happens 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:27.640 microscopically the the energy flow generates structure and that has all of 00:51:27.640 --> 00:51:32.080 the consequences of cell diffusion I didn't mention that he had talked about 00:51:32.080 --> 00:51:38.640 which totally aligns with what you said he said the red wavelengths of light or 00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:44.080 what helped to structure the water which I thought was really interesting Oh a 00:51:44.080 --> 00:51:52.200 German researcher a young guy named Andre summer has been doing extremely 00:51:52.200 --> 00:52:00.680 interesting research showing exactly that but the red light itself organizes 00:52:00.680 --> 00:52:08.440 the structure of water interesting so I think it's important to do like Adam and 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:14.520 even and walk naked in the garden in the sunlight okay David I appreciate you 00:52:14.520 --> 00:52:22.120 cool that's a great idea I appreciate you cool but I think we have another one 00:52:22.120 --> 00:52:25.840 lined up here so best okay thank you best again that's cool thank you I know 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:31.080 dr. Peat you talk about red light a lot as a free free radical quenching 00:52:31.080 --> 00:52:36.960 substance and anti-inflammatory so yeah and it desorbs nitric oxide from the 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:44.680 cytochrome oxidase okay somebody called in during that dialogue there and I 00:52:44.680 --> 00:52:48.400 think they've left the question with the engineer so if the question wants to be 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.920 read out then perhaps we can go from there yeah she was just basically 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:56.600 wondering now she said she's 64 years old and wondering about under eye 00:52:56.600 --> 00:53:00.920 puffiness a 64 year old lady sounds like low thyroid but dr. Peat what do you 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:07.520 think yeah sometimes low thyroid or something missing in the diet can be a 00:53:07.520 --> 00:53:15.680 factor but most often it's low thyroid with for example if your thyroid is 00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:21.400 chronically low your cholesterol is likely to be chronically above average 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:29.440 right as a compensation I rate should turn cholesterol into the steroids 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:39.480 progesterone pregnenolone and DHEA and those should regulate the water and the 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:45.360 inside outside the cell a balance of water okay I think we have another 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.000 caller who's just just called in just a moment ago so let's see let's take this 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.080 next call a caller you're on here and where you from okay let me turn my radio 00:53:53.080 --> 00:54:03.000 off hang on a second okay I'm from the north coast here okay I had a question 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:12.480 what do you know about sulfites in wine digestive problems yeah and our wines 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:18.280 were companies that produce wine required to stay that sulfites are in 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:22.680 wine do you know anything about sure yeah it's a labeling recommendation for 00:54:22.680 --> 00:54:28.760 sure and sulfite free wine can be labeled sulfite free other wine that 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:33.880 isn't normally has to be labeled contains sulfites I know dr. Peat has 00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:38.360 always mentioned that sulfites are very allergenic can cause many different 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:43.880 symptoms from headache to rash to respiratory disorders but dr. Peat what 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:50.520 what else do you have to say about so for digestion well it's a potentially 00:54:50.520 --> 00:55:00.320 very pro-inflammatory and it interferes with the handling of electrons I think 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:08.720 that's why it is so dangerously allergenic for so many people and I've 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:21.240 I've had the experience of sulfited wines that gave me a vertigo and extreme 00:55:21.240 --> 00:55:27.240 symptoms for several days which I think were from causing inflammation of the 00:55:27.240 --> 00:55:37.000 intestine okay so just yet how the general the my question refers whether 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:45.480 what about messing up a digestive system and causing pain in in digestion that's 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:53.200 why I'm wondering if it's related to that well red wines contain their own 00:55:53.200 --> 00:56:00.240 histamine which can cause symptoms in a lot of people 00:56:00.640 --> 00:56:08.440 thanks a lot okay you're welcome okay well I'd I'd stop right there dr. Peat 00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:13.840 and just thank you so much for spending your time again this month with the show 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:20.200 I just want to let people know how to find out more information about you okay 00:56:20.200 --> 00:56:24.920 thanks so much okay well thanks to the callers that have called in and yeah 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:31.440 again there's certainly more scope for expanding the discussion on you are what 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:36.880 you eat dr. Raymond Peat's website has a wealth of information where people can 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:41.960 find lots of articles that are fully referenced scientific articles his 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:51.840 website is www.raypeat.com and then there's like I say probably something in 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:57.360 the order of 40 to 50 articles on various different subjects all of which 00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:05.160 are his specialism in hormones and endocrine subjects so his website 00:57:05.160 --> 00:57:12.200 www.raypeat.com we can be contacted Monday through Friday during business 00:57:12.200 --> 00:57:18.880 hours at 1-888-WBM-ERB and yeah this is a couple of days until the winter 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:24.320 solstice the darkest time of the year Christmas is coming up I hope everybody 00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:29.080 here is paying attention to what it is they're gonna eat over Christmas lots of 00:57:29.080 --> 00:57:33.920 hopefully no polyunsaturates hopefully people are cooking with butter and 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:39.480 animal fats and making sure that what you eat is organic again like I said you 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:46.800 know you are what you eat and the food chain is an extremely toxic product the 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.160 whole food industry is extremely permeated with lots of different 00:57:50.160 --> 00:57:55.560 chemicals now that make food not what it used to be so when people say it's not 00:57:55.560 --> 00:57:58.800 like my grandmother used to cook that's because she was cooking with real food 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:03.480 and unfortunately a lot of our food now is not particularly real so yeah always 00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:09.600 eat organic source and support organic production and watch what you eat until 00:58:09.600 --> 00:58:15.280 the third Friday of next month Merry Christmas 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.280 www.raypeat.com 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.280 www.raypeat.com 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.280 www.raypeat.com 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.280 www.raypeat.com 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:45.640 [Music] 00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:56.760 All right, thanks to the Herb Doctor for that awesome segment we had. 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