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My name's Andrew Murray. For 00:02:39.040 --> 00:02:42.880 those of you who perhaps have never listened to our shows which run every third Friday 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:48.640 of the month from 7-8pm, I'm a licensed medical herbalist who trained in England and graduated 00:02:48.640 --> 00:02:54.160 there with a Master's Degree in Herbal Medicine. I run a clinic in Garberville where I consult 00:02:54.160 --> 00:02:58.040 with clients about a wide range of conditions and recommend herbal medicine and dietary 00:02:58.040 --> 00:03:04.080 advice. So, you're listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMUD Garberville, 91.1 FM. And, 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.760 from 7.30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in with any questions 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:15.520 either related or unrelated to this month's subject, an ongoing subject perhaps, of the 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:23.320 use of urea in the treatment of various pathologies. We're also going to get into a recapitulation 00:03:23.320 --> 00:03:30.200 if you like about isoflavones, soy products, etc. Things that are touted as being healthful 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:39.480 and where the mistakes have come from because I know Dr. Peat has at length discussed various 00:03:39.480 --> 00:03:44.960 of these subjects and there is no science behind it, but unfortunately they're still 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.800 portrayed in the mainstream as very healthful along with the fish oil. So, we're going to 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:55.960 get into that later on after the topic of urea in the treatment of disease. For those 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:02.680 of you who are calling outside the area, the show is live and from 7.30 until 8 o'clock 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:08.040 we take callers who'd like to pose questions to Dr. Peat either related to this month's 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:13.200 subject or if indeed they have other questions health-related that they'd like to ask Dr. 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:17.280 Peat, then they're also welcome to do that. So, the number if they live outside the area, 00:04:17.280 --> 00:04:25.480 the toll-free number is 1-800-KMUD-RAD which is 1-800-568-3723. For those in the local 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:33.320 area, the 707 area code at least, the number is 923-3911. And I can be reached toll-free 00:04:33.320 --> 00:04:40.960 on 1-888-WBM-ERB for consultations or any other further information Monday through Friday, 00:04:40.960 --> 00:04:44.800 regular business hours. Okay, so Dr. Peat, are you with us? 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.680 Yes. Oh, hi. Thanks for joining us. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:52.640 So, again as always, perhaps for those people who might have just tuned in for the first 00:04:52.640 --> 00:04:57.200 time or for people that may have only heard of you once or twice as well as those who 00:04:57.200 --> 00:05:03.880 are regular listeners to your show, would you just discuss your professional and academic 00:05:03.880 --> 00:05:09.040 background and how it's brought you to where you're at now? 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:16.000 I don't really have a professional background, I guess, but academically I studied various 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:27.120 things for an MA in humanities and then 1968 to '72 I got a PhD in biology specializing 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:36.320 in reproductive physiology and the biochemistry related to it. But I've been talking to lots 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:46.920 of people about biological ideas for about 50 years, so my education comes in a lot of 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:53.720 non-academic ways. Okay, so I know that you're constantly researching 00:05:53.720 --> 00:06:02.800 both old as well as novel breakthroughs in the interpretation of disease and the approach 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:10.760 to disease which is less than mainstream medical approaches because the science very often 00:06:10.760 --> 00:06:19.320 has a different perspective to which I think most people are subject in medicine per se. 00:06:19.320 --> 00:06:26.240 That is to say, I think sometimes the truth of trials and research that's done isn't always 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:32.680 brought out to the public, certainly not in a timely manner. Maybe 20 or 30 years later 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:37.720 we begin to see the revelations from that initial research and it comes to the attention 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:44.000 of people a bit like the U-turn, if you like, on the polyunsaturated oils that now are recognized 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:51.480 as being negative for a person's health rather than the financially viable positive health 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:59.760 benefits. So I think for this month, we talked about it a little while ago, last month or 00:06:59.760 --> 00:07:08.080 in December's show, about the treatment of urea in cancer, specifically with reference 00:07:08.080 --> 00:07:15.920 to a Dr. Evangelos Danopoulos, a Greek medical doctor who actually was, I think he was conferred 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:21.160 an honorary professorship. I think they know him now on the internet as Professor Danopoulos. 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:28.440 But ultimately, he published quite a few peer-reviewed papers in respective medical 00:07:28.440 --> 00:07:36.160 journals, those being things like The Lancet and in the journal Clinical Oncology, one 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.960 particularly I know we're probably going to quote from, or you're probably going to quote 00:07:39.960 --> 00:07:45.160 from too, that were published in 1983 and he did some research prior to that in the 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:54.680 late 70s. So some of the questions on urea and how a simple compound like urea that's 00:07:54.680 --> 00:08:01.520 totally non-toxic, extremely inexpensive and very well tolerated by all the people that 00:08:01.520 --> 00:08:07.720 were using it and people that use it per se around the world for various things from skin 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:14.720 conditions to these cancers that we'll talk about. What are your interpretations of the 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:19.920 mechanism by which urea is affecting this anti-cancer activity? And then we'll get into 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:24.440 some of the outright experiments that were done. 00:08:24.440 --> 00:08:32.240 I think one of the essential things is that it inhibits nitric oxide formation. And nitric 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:44.700 oxide formation is probably the main means by which stress of any kind can turn off oxidative 00:08:44.700 --> 00:08:55.080 energy production. And so anything that will turn off nitric oxide excess will restore 00:08:55.080 --> 00:09:05.880 energy production and restoring energy production has all kinds of even structural ramifications. 00:09:05.880 --> 00:09:15.780 The constant consumption of oxygen is maintaining and renewing the microscopic structure of 00:09:15.780 --> 00:09:27.220 a cell. The membrane, people about 50 years ago were arguing that the membrane is semi-permeable 00:09:27.220 --> 00:09:34.580 and it has to have pumps and cell energy has to run those pumps. But in fact, there are 00:09:34.580 --> 00:09:42.140 no demonstrated pumps and the pumps that they postulated would take many times more energy 00:09:42.140 --> 00:09:49.300 than the cell could ever produce. So the cell is doing something with its energy very different 00:09:49.300 --> 00:10:00.140 from maintaining an osmotic balance. It's maintaining the structure in an atomically 00:10:00.140 --> 00:10:09.580 fine sense structure right down to the electronic relations of atoms to each other. And it's 00:10:09.580 --> 00:10:18.700 this kind of balance that urea participates in directly as well as helping to prevent 00:10:18.700 --> 00:10:27.860 the loss of the oxidative production of energy. So the energy produces this structure which 00:10:27.860 --> 00:10:37.460 has all of the properties of life and urea fits into that in a unique way so that the 00:10:37.460 --> 00:10:48.780 normal amount in the blood is just a few milligrams per 100 cc's of blood. But you can increase 00:10:48.780 --> 00:11:00.580 that to 1000 milligrams per to 100, almost 1% of the blood without disturbing things 00:11:00.580 --> 00:11:09.220 physiologically. And DeNopolis found that when he got the blood level up to at least 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:18.220 85 milligrams per cent, more than 10 times the normal amount, the cancers would start 00:11:18.220 --> 00:11:29.780 disappearing. And so it's a matter of concentration. Even before that concentration, it will have 00:11:29.780 --> 00:11:39.500 shut down the production and action of nitric oxide. But then it has these structure stabilizing 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:48.660 effects. It fits right into the way water is structured and it increases the ability 00:11:48.660 --> 00:11:56.460 of the cell's natural hormones to structure the water and protein system the way the cell 00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:04.740 wants to structure it. So it's like urea is supporting what the cell wants to do, even 00:12:04.740 --> 00:12:07.700 when it's at these extremely high concentrations. 00:12:07.700 --> 00:12:16.980 So it's a little bit similar to the electronic state structuring water when we talk about 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:18.660 structured water that you think 00:12:18.660 --> 00:12:25.300 Yeah, it's exactly what the oxidative system is doing to the electrons. It's preventing 00:12:25.300 --> 00:12:33.460 an excess of electrons and toxins and carcinogens and radiation are doing exactly the opposite. 00:12:33.460 --> 00:12:38.300 They're putting too many loose electrons into the wrong places. 00:12:38.300 --> 00:12:44.380 Right. So and this and this by your description of too many loose electrons, we can imagine 00:12:44.380 --> 00:12:49.940 those as being what they call the damaging free radicals and things like 00:12:49.940 --> 00:13:00.140 that. Even more extensive than that, it's the chemical system of the proteins contains 00:13:00.140 --> 00:13:08.140 a lot of sulfhydryl compounds, glutathione that a lot of doctors are using intravenously 00:13:08.140 --> 00:13:19.460 as an anti stress thing. This is a sulfur compound maintained by energy rich fuel molecules, 00:13:19.460 --> 00:13:29.860 and it maintains a certain degree of oxidation in balance with sulfhydryl groups attached 00:13:29.860 --> 00:13:38.060 to the proteins and the proteins are in there like a reservoir of electrons at the right 00:13:38.060 --> 00:13:48.260 energy level and the oxygen metabolism besides providing ATP and other forms of energy is 00:13:48.260 --> 00:13:56.940 preventing an overflow of loose electrons getting into the structure of the proteins. 00:13:56.940 --> 00:14:06.740 Too many electrons will de differentiate the cell move towards non oxidative energy production 00:14:06.740 --> 00:14:11.860 and the formation of lactic acid which can start vicious circles. 00:14:11.860 --> 00:14:22.500 Right. Okay, because I know I read a several abstracts of that old. Yeah. Published pieces 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:28.420 of work done with various groups of people with cancers. I know he worked on liver cancer 00:14:28.420 --> 00:14:33.940 was something I believe I believe we brought out two months ago. The treatment and approach 00:14:33.940 --> 00:14:40.140 to liver cancer with urea. I know he worked a lot with people that had liver primaries 00:14:40.140 --> 00:14:47.620 and or secondaries, but the ocular cancers, the cancers of the eye, the melanomas and 00:14:47.620 --> 00:14:55.180 the basal cell carcinomas. That was pretty interesting the way urea again was used in 00:14:55.180 --> 00:15:01.300 the treatment of those ocular cancers and his articles on that have photographs that 00:15:01.300 --> 00:15:11.060 show very vividly the correction, the elimination of the cancer and restoration of normal tissue. 00:15:11.060 --> 00:15:17.580 And one of the interesting things about urea is that at these very high concentrations, 00:15:17.580 --> 00:15:30.060 it is so stabilizing to normal tissue that it prevents the formation of deforming scars. 00:15:30.060 --> 00:15:41.460 In a 1935 publication, someone was describing its use in treating wounds of all kinds, packing 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:54.900 crystals right into the wound or the ulcer or whatever was an open damage to the organism, 00:15:54.900 --> 00:16:04.060 putting the solid urea into it and leaving it would clear up the infection and stimulate 00:16:04.060 --> 00:16:07.900 healing but it would heal without visible scarring. 00:16:07.900 --> 00:16:15.500 I read that it promoted a fairly rapid granulation tissue in the wounds and that was part of 00:16:15.500 --> 00:16:22.020 its part of its mechanism by which it achieved such good wound healing. 00:16:22.020 --> 00:16:31.740 I was seeing a story about an African spiny mouse that can regenerate its tissue very 00:16:31.740 --> 00:16:39.500 quickly like they mentioned that punching a hole in the skin, it could close the wound 00:16:39.500 --> 00:16:47.660 by almost two-thirds in the first day. In three or four days, the wound would be healed 00:16:47.660 --> 00:16:48.660 without a scar. 00:16:48.660 --> 00:16:53.940 Now this I think from an energy perspective is quite interesting. It's a bit of a sidetrack 00:16:53.940 --> 00:17:01.580 from the subject but young children and young adults, they heal rapidly compared to older 00:17:01.580 --> 00:17:08.340 people and that's got to be down to an electronic energy state within the organism, correct? 00:17:08.340 --> 00:17:17.900 Yeah, the oxidative metabolism slows down from early in embryonic development down to 00:17:17.900 --> 00:17:26.060 old age. There's a steady decrease of oxidative metabolism. 00:17:26.060 --> 00:17:36.580 Yeah, it's the downfall of all of us who are gradually aging. Okay, so in order to, very 00:17:36.580 --> 00:17:41.900 quickly again, in order to stave off that kind of electronic degradation and the inability 00:17:41.900 --> 00:17:49.700 to oxidatively repair, what do you think are some of the best tactics that people can use 00:17:49.700 --> 00:17:55.140 to maintain the ability to stave off that damage? 00:17:55.140 --> 00:18:05.460 In the uterus, the developing embryo also heals without scarring. I think two factors 00:18:05.460 --> 00:18:15.220 are involved in that. The high carbon dioxide level and the higher urea and related compounds 00:18:15.220 --> 00:18:25.980 in the amniotic fluid. In the adult also, just pure carbon dioxide gas can be blown 00:18:25.980 --> 00:18:37.140 into an ulcer and stimulate healing, control other symptoms, reduce pain and so on. But 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:45.420 I think as soon as an organism is born, it starts interacting with the outside environment 00:18:45.420 --> 00:18:52.860 where in the uterus it was getting its energy filtered through the placenta and making its 00:18:52.860 --> 00:19:03.620 own fats out of the glucose and fructose that were provided to it. And the organism using 00:19:03.620 --> 00:19:12.500 carbohydrate for energy produces saturated fats or omega minus nine unsaturated fats. 00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:21.420 And when we come into the world, we're exposed to the fats produced by organisms living at 00:19:21.420 --> 00:19:32.260 a lower temperature generally. And the colder a plant is exposed to, the more unsaturated 00:19:32.260 --> 00:19:40.700 its fats are and they're of a different type than we would make ourselves. And those interrupt 00:19:40.700 --> 00:19:48.420 our oxidative metabolism to the extent that we become saturated with them. And that happens 00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:54.460 progressively from the time we're born in the old age generally. 00:19:54.460 --> 00:20:00.860 Okay. Well, welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor. Again, we're very proud to have 00:20:00.860 --> 00:20:07.660 Dr. Peat sharing his expertise with us on the show. From 730 to 8 o'clock, you're invited 00:20:07.660 --> 00:20:12.980 to call in with any questions either related or unrelated to this month's subject of urea 00:20:12.980 --> 00:20:18.060 and the treatment of cancers with urea. And then in a bit here, we're going to get into 00:20:18.060 --> 00:20:26.900 some of the mistaken lies, in fact, maybe even purposeful lies that are portrayed in 00:20:26.900 --> 00:20:33.660 the media from various supplement companies and big industry related to estrogen and bone 00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:38.820 health and cancers and phytoestrogens role in that. So if you live in the area, the number 00:20:38.820 --> 00:20:48.020 is 9233911. Or there's a toll free number if you live outside the area. That's 1-800-568-3723. 00:20:48.020 --> 00:20:57.100 So Dr. Peat, just going back to Dr. Danopoulos' work with cancer, he had several, quite a 00:20:57.100 --> 00:21:05.380 few cases actually of cancers that were completely healed. And I just find it so shocking when 00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:12.780 here is scientific evidence peer reviewed in scientific magazines that are portraying 00:21:12.780 --> 00:21:19.020 various other experiments from drug companies and/or individual research from universities 00:21:19.020 --> 00:21:25.320 that showed what happened. And I just find it hard to believe that this kind of thing 00:21:25.320 --> 00:21:30.060 doesn't perpetuate itself and become common knowledge to a point where it's actually taken 00:21:30.060 --> 00:21:37.260 up by academic institutes and made more viable. 00:21:37.260 --> 00:21:45.180 The medical journals depend on the pharmaceutical industry largely. And urea that sells for 00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:55.300 a couple dollars a pound or something isn't a very good drug, especially a drug that cures 00:21:55.300 --> 00:22:05.020 isn't a good drug, even if it's expensive. A cheap drug that cures just won't work in 00:22:05.020 --> 00:22:06.020 the medical system. 00:22:06.020 --> 00:22:10.660 I mean I wanted to bring these out just for those people that are listening. I think we 00:22:10.660 --> 00:22:17.340 all have free choice. And to find information out for ourselves is always a good idea rather 00:22:17.340 --> 00:22:23.420 than just listening to whatever it is that we're being told by whoever it is that's telling 00:22:23.420 --> 00:22:27.580 us. It's always very good I think, especially in the age of the internet where I know there's 00:22:27.580 --> 00:22:31.320 lots of bad information on the internet, it's not to say it's all good, but there's lots 00:22:31.320 --> 00:22:36.820 of places where you can go and you can read scientific medical information that you know 00:22:36.820 --> 00:22:42.500 is being researched and you know it's been pretty well scrutinized. And when it's telling 00:22:42.500 --> 00:22:47.820 you that this kind of thing is being used to treat a cancer, it's very hard to ignore 00:22:47.820 --> 00:22:48.820 it. 00:22:48.820 --> 00:22:52.580 So I think just for those people that are listening perhaps, they might want to look 00:22:52.580 --> 00:22:59.760 at Dr. Danopoulos' work in the late 70s and the early 80s and his approach to the treatment 00:22:59.760 --> 00:23:06.860 of liver disease with urea as well as cancers of the eye. And then I think the other thing 00:23:06.860 --> 00:23:13.580 I wanted to get into was just some of the amounts of the product. And as we've already 00:23:13.580 --> 00:23:19.420 mentioned, urea is extremely non-toxic. It's kind of odourless and tasteless and doesn't 00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:25.820 really have anything negative going for it. It's very well tolerated. So I know some of 00:23:25.820 --> 00:23:33.860 the instances where he's quoting case histories here, we're using something like 15, I don't 00:23:33.860 --> 00:23:39.380 know, one of the quotes was 15 grams of urea in a quart of water. And this was to be drunk 00:23:39.380 --> 00:23:44.540 daily. So this was just a total amount of urea to be consumed every hour or so, you 00:23:44.540 --> 00:23:49.780 know, in the waking hour from, I don't know, from 9 or 10 o'clock through till 6 or 7 in 00:23:49.780 --> 00:23:56.780 the afternoon. So 15 grams of urea and then there were injections that were done with 00:23:56.780 --> 00:24:05.820 a 15, up to 50, between 15 and 50%. I think the average was kind of a 20, 25% urea solution 00:24:05.820 --> 00:24:11.820 for skin tumors and that was found to be highly effective. And then I know he mentions, and 00:24:11.820 --> 00:24:15.420 this is a little bit different, I think here in the States we use blood urea and nitrogen, 00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:25.620 but he was quoting blood urea as a level and quoting 75 to 85 milligrams per cent. So do 00:24:25.620 --> 00:24:32.900 you know roughly what that would equate to, 75 to 85 milligrams per cent? That would be? 00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:42.380 I think it requires taking quite a bit more than 15 grams per day. Some of the studies 00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:52.060 were using up to 120 grams per day divided up in doses of about 15 grams at a time. 00:24:52.060 --> 00:24:53.060 Interesting. 00:24:53.060 --> 00:25:01.100 And in the 1950s, it was probably the main treatment used for brain swelling, reducing 00:25:01.100 --> 00:25:12.060 brain edema because a lot of people were thinking of it as an osmotic treatment and it was 00:25:12.060 --> 00:25:23.260 displaced by various osmotic substances with the idea that you would make the blood hyperosmotic 00:25:23.260 --> 00:25:31.300 to draw the excess water out of the brain into the blood. But urea isn't osmotically 00:25:31.300 --> 00:25:39.740 active because it goes right into the cells and to be osmotically active has to be like 00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:46.340 sodium that stays outside the cell or like sucrose or some of the sugars that can't be 00:25:46.340 --> 00:25:55.500 absorbed. But urea goes into the cell, sort of soothes the cell's excitation, changes 00:25:55.500 --> 00:26:04.220 its electronic balance and lets the cell excrete, give up the water that it doesn't need, very 00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:13.300 much the way progesterone and thyroid work, adjusting the electronic state so that the 00:26:13.300 --> 00:26:27.140 ion exchange system and electronic affinity for water is downgraded so that it doesn't 00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:31.580 bind so much water. 00:26:31.580 --> 00:26:39.060 That same anti-edema effect is still here and there used for treating congestive heart 00:26:39.060 --> 00:26:49.420 failure. I was looking up the Mexican pharmacopeia and I see that they still list urea to treat 00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:58.780 the edema of heart failure because it's a diuretic that makes the kidneys work better. 00:26:58.780 --> 00:27:08.220 It also causes the muscles and other organs to not retain water so greedily. 00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:15.620 Okay, so you said again, just to quote you again, up to 120 grams a day you're saying? 00:27:15.620 --> 00:27:21.660 Yeah, for getting rid of excess water. That was the amount they used. 00:27:21.660 --> 00:27:28.820 And then you also mentioned in conjunction with urea therapy a compound called creatine 00:27:28.820 --> 00:27:36.380 hydrate and saying that the two of these compounds together was even more effective at treating 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:41.740 these cancers than the urea alone. Do you know much about creatine hydrate? 00:27:41.740 --> 00:27:50.700 No, I think it's probably having some of the physical effects similar to urea but it also 00:27:50.700 --> 00:27:55.140 enters into the energy storage and management system. 00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:59.780 Right, okay. Alright, so for those of you who are listening, like I said, you can look 00:27:59.780 --> 00:28:06.540 on the internet, type in "Doctor or Professor Evangelos Danopoulos" and you can read all 00:28:06.540 --> 00:28:11.660 about his work with liver cancer, eye cancers and other skin cancers with the treatment 00:28:11.660 --> 00:28:17.860 of urea. So it might well be worth some people who have a compunction to do it to take a 00:28:17.860 --> 00:28:18.860 look. 00:28:18.860 --> 00:28:23.340 The other thing that caught my attention here, and I don't know, it sounds kind of incredible 00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:28.860 and I don't mean to sound like I'm laughing but it's just a bit like the cancer thing. 00:28:28.860 --> 00:28:35.780 It's just hard to imagine that these things can go by and not make a big dent or a big 00:28:35.780 --> 00:28:42.580 impact because the next statement was the common white and brown mushrooms and we're 00:28:42.580 --> 00:28:48.340 going to get into aromatase and breast cancer in a bit here with the discussion on isoflavones 00:28:48.340 --> 00:28:54.820 and soy and why what they tell you is not the truth actually and this is the fact. But 00:28:54.820 --> 00:29:02.020 the use of white and brown mushrooms to inhibit aromatase and prevent breast cell proliferation. 00:29:02.020 --> 00:29:07.380 They were talking about 10 grams of mushroom a day. Presumably this is cooked now because 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:11.020 I know you've mentioned that regular white mushrooms and brown mushrooms actually contain 00:29:11.020 --> 00:29:16.040 a fairly carcinogenic compound but 10 grams of cooked mushrooms a day reduce breast cancer 00:29:16.040 --> 00:29:22.460 by 64% and then with the addition of a daily gram of green tea leaves, which we probably, 00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:26.620 all those health conscious people have probably heard about the antioxidant benefits of green 00:29:26.620 --> 00:29:32.180 tea, with the addition of a single gram of green tea leaves they got up to 89% reduction 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:36.140 in breast cancer. I find that incredible. 00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:43.740 Yeah, you would think that there would be more news about that. 00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:49.980 Okay, anyway, so that's a couple of things that I wanted to bring out. We do have a couple 00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:57.380 of people I think waiting to take questions so the engineer here I think he's going to 00:29:57.380 --> 00:30:01.740 be passing those people on to us here any minute. Yeah, so I think we have a caller 00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:03.740 here. You're on the air and where are you from? 00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:05.500 This is David from Missouri. 00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:07.860 Oh, hey David. What's your question? 00:30:07.860 --> 00:30:14.260 Well, you know, when you were talking about urea, it seems like through the years I've 00:30:14.260 --> 00:30:21.820 read about indigenous people around the world actually using urine products for medicinal 00:30:21.820 --> 00:30:28.140 purposes. Do you think why they intuitively knew that somehow that was the urea within 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:29.140 the urine? 00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:30.140 Yeah, I would. 00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:34.220 Because it had healing properties, you know, and because those people are probably in a 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:39.980 much cleaner environment, it could be possibly safe. 00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:46.140 Dr. Peat, do you think there's anything to be said for the supposed sterility here of 00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:51.900 urine given that you don't have a urinary tract infection, but its sterility and the 00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:54.420 high concentration of urea in urine? 00:30:54.420 --> 00:31:03.820 Yeah, I've known quite a few people who did it regularly and it seemed extremely healthy. 00:31:03.820 --> 00:31:11.500 It's been, the Chinese used it for example, and one of their interpretations was that 00:31:11.500 --> 00:31:21.300 it was the steroids. They concentrated things like the metabolites of progesterone and pregnenolone 00:31:21.300 --> 00:31:29.980 from the urine and used these to extend the lives of the kings and rich people. 00:31:29.980 --> 00:31:30.980 Interesting. 00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:40.820 Interesting, huh? Well, and Dr. Peat, do you, you know, the main things that you promote, 00:31:40.820 --> 00:31:49.260 you know, eating saturated fat, getting plenty of sunlight and a certain level of CO2, I'm 00:31:49.260 --> 00:31:54.780 not sure exactly how to ask this, but if we were to work backwards on the physiology of 00:31:54.780 --> 00:32:05.420 the human body, it appears that evolution of humanity occurred in equatorial areas and 00:32:05.420 --> 00:32:13.500 possibly in more high altitude areas. And I guess the warm climate would also be that 00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:20.020 you would probably be eating more saturated fat in plants and maybe in animals? Would 00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:26.260 that be a, if somebody were to, you know, take your philosophy seriously and start doing 00:32:26.260 --> 00:32:32.420 studies based on that idea, do you think they would find that that is how man evolved and 00:32:32.420 --> 00:32:38.700 that moving away from the equator is where a lot of the problems are occurring for the 00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:39.700 human organism? 00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:51.500 Yeah, that's my orientation on the issue of origins. High altitude, warm climate, lots 00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:58.980 of fruit and all foods would be more saturated in a more equatorial environment. 00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:07.500 Do you think in general that people that are studying science know that that is the case 00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:13.700 or probably not because they're not warning us about polyunsaturated fats and they're 00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:18.860 not telling us we need more sunlight and they must be oblivious to that, I guess. 00:33:18.860 --> 00:33:29.020 I ran across publications in some of the fairly well-known food journals 40, 50 years ago 00:33:29.020 --> 00:33:42.780 showing that the fats vary with the climate and that the fats have a definite function. 00:33:42.780 --> 00:33:51.740 Some of them are functioning to protect the plants against animal predators by poisoning 00:33:51.740 --> 00:33:59.460 them so they put lots of the unsaturated fats in their seeds. That was recognized 40 years 00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:04.860 ago that the seed oils are biological defense. 00:34:04.860 --> 00:34:16.940 It almost seems like if somebody kept in their mind that, you know, we did evolve from an 00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:21.180 equatorial area and that we do need lots of sunlight and we do need certain types of food, 00:34:21.180 --> 00:34:25.540 they could actually kind of guide you. It's like so many people just don't get it that 00:34:25.540 --> 00:34:30.740 they're not getting enough sunlight when they're further north. It's almost like if they were 00:34:30.740 --> 00:34:39.900 reminded that your organism actually is adapted to an equatorial situation that they would 00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:42.660 think more about that, you know? 00:34:42.660 --> 00:34:55.020 And previously when it was summer in the high latitudes, people were outside farming, herding 00:34:55.020 --> 00:35:02.460 the sheep or whatever, getting lots of sunlight exposure. And in the last hundred years, people 00:35:02.460 --> 00:35:10.540 have sort of moved indoors and gotten sicker, I think largely from deficiency of sunlight. 00:35:10.540 --> 00:35:14.820 I don't want to interrupt too much here, but we do have three other callers on the line, 00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:18.060 so I just want to be fair to make sure everyone gets a fair chance. 00:35:18.060 --> 00:35:19.620 Okay, thank you. 00:35:19.620 --> 00:35:23.260 Yeah, thank you for your question and thank you, Dr. Peat. Let's move on to the next 00:35:23.260 --> 00:35:29.780 person so the other two get a chance. Next caller, you're on the air. And where are you 00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:30.780 from? 00:35:30.780 --> 00:35:31.780 From Arcata, California. 00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:37.900 Okay, yeah, go ahead. What's your question? 00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:47.980 You were going to talk about fish oil, and I've taken fish oil and I'm hearing that you 00:35:47.980 --> 00:35:56.380 were going to talk about the negative effect, that it's not all correct. 00:35:56.380 --> 00:36:01.660 Yeah, it's unfortunate for you that the research that's out there does not make it to the popular 00:36:01.660 --> 00:36:08.060 mainstream as quickly as it would be good if it did. It's certainly taking a U-turn 00:36:08.060 --> 00:36:12.820 now. I know, Dr. Peat, you spent quite a lot of your life researching the polyunsaturates 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:18.900 and how damaging they are. If you want to briefly give the gentleman caller a synopsis 00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:23.140 of the polyunsaturated, especially the fish oil and how damaging it is for you, I think 00:36:23.140 --> 00:36:25.820 it would be good for him to hear that. 00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:35.900 The majority of the oils that we store are unsaturated. Our cells prefer to oxidize saturated 00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:43.980 fats and so even when we eat a mixed fat diet, our tissues with aging tend to load up on 00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:55.620 the unsaturated. And the N-3 fats, the double bonds are farther from the acidic end, which 00:36:55.620 --> 00:37:06.100 is what is handled biologically. And the acid end protects against oxidation. So the N-3 00:37:06.100 --> 00:37:13.300 fats are more unstable in the presence of oxygen and so we don't store so much of those. 00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:21.340 So with aging, our bloodstream, every time we're slightly stressed, our bloodstream 00:37:21.340 --> 00:37:33.940 gets a fairly high concentration of N-6 fatty acids, which produce the toxic prostaglandins 00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:44.220 that produce brain cell damage and inflammation and so on. And so if you take a meal of fish 00:37:44.220 --> 00:37:53.360 or eat some fish oil, these oxidize very quickly and form compounds that will interfere with 00:37:53.360 --> 00:38:01.460 the formation of prostaglandins. But in doing that, they're also suppressing the immune 00:38:01.460 --> 00:38:10.020 system, but you get temporary relief to the extent that you're overloaded with the most 00:38:10.020 --> 00:38:20.140 toxic N-6 fatty acids. So people experience some relief of inflammation when they take 00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:31.100 fish oil, but in the long run, that's doing its own damage because it's so highly oxidizable. 00:38:31.100 --> 00:38:40.500 In some experiments, the N-3 fats increased the metastatic spread of cancer cells. 00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:44.660 Okay, did you get that, Carla? 00:38:44.660 --> 00:38:51.060 Yes, I did. What would you recommend for as something that would, a substance that we 00:38:51.060 --> 00:38:58.980 take that would promote healthy brain function or maybe even the regeneration of brain cells 00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:05.900 and that, and fish oil? 00:39:05.900 --> 00:39:11.100 Well I know that Dr. Peat definitely espouses the saturated fats as very protective, both 00:39:11.100 --> 00:39:17.020 stabilizing cell membranes, being cardiovascularly protective, which is not what you'll hear 00:39:17.020 --> 00:39:22.740 if you read the newspapers or magazine articles. But in terms of anti-inflammatory effects, 00:39:22.740 --> 00:39:27.540 the saturated fats are definitely better in the brain function for stabilizing the membranes 00:39:27.540 --> 00:39:33.420 and the saturated fats are certainly going to be the protective compounds. So coconut 00:39:33.420 --> 00:39:40.180 oil, palm oil, butter, animal fat, and I've got to say a caveat to add to the statement 00:39:40.180 --> 00:39:44.620 animal fat, you need to make sure the animal is certified organic, otherwise most of all 00:39:44.620 --> 00:39:51.260 the residues of whatever pesticides or hormones or antibiotics they're treated with will wind 00:39:51.260 --> 00:39:55.220 up in their fat, so you don't want to eat the fat of a non-organic animal. 00:39:55.220 --> 00:40:02.220 But it depends on what the animals were being fed. Chickens are highly polyunsaturated, 00:40:02.220 --> 00:40:11.340 pork for the last 50 years has been very full of polyunsaturated fats, even though lots 00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:22.020 of science papers are treating lard as a saturated fat with 35% or so of PUFA in it, it's definitely 00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:23.580 a risky fat. 00:40:23.580 --> 00:40:28.780 Okay, so we do have three more callers on the line Dr. Peat, so thank you for your call 00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:33.700 and let's move on to the next callers. So next one, you're on the air, where are you 00:40:33.700 --> 00:40:34.700 from? Hello? 00:40:34.700 --> 00:40:35.700 Is it me? 00:40:35.700 --> 00:40:38.700 Yeah, you're on the air, where are you from? 00:40:38.700 --> 00:40:40.340 Alright, up on Bell Springs. 00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:42.460 Okay, very local. What's your question? 00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:46.940 Okay, my question has to do with breast health and I know you're going to address that in 00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:55.500 the program. What I would like to ask is that you address urea in reference to breast health 00:40:55.500 --> 00:40:56.500 and particularly fibroids. 00:40:56.500 --> 00:41:02.980 Okay, Dr. Peat, did you hear that? The reference to breast health and fibroids and the benefits 00:41:02.980 --> 00:41:08.500 of urea? 00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:19.820 I don't know of any particular treatments or programs for those with urea, but the diet 00:41:19.820 --> 00:41:31.260 that favors the formation of urea rather than its antithesis nitric oxide, it happens that 00:41:31.260 --> 00:41:44.300 the amino acid arginine can either form nitric oxide or urea and irritants, anything toxic 00:41:44.300 --> 00:41:54.900 tends to shift it away from forming urea and going to nitric oxide. So avoiding the polyunsaturated 00:41:54.900 --> 00:42:01.260 fats helps you maintain the proper amount of urea formation. 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:06.540 Okay, because Carlo, I don't know if you heard the earlier part of the show, I wasn't making 00:42:06.540 --> 00:42:10.100 a reference or we weren't making references to urea specifically to breast health, but 00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:13.980 we were, if we have the time here, otherwise we'll do it next month, we were going to get 00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:21.700 into the common lies and mistakes that people are told about polyunsaturated oils and estrogen 00:42:21.700 --> 00:42:26.540 and its supposed health benefits because there's plenty of scientific evidence to show that 00:42:26.540 --> 00:42:31.660 estrogen is actually very damaging and that in terms of breast health and fibroids, I 00:42:31.660 --> 00:42:35.820 know Dr. Peat, you would agree that estrogen is probably one of the main contributory factors 00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:36.820 for fibroids? 00:42:36.820 --> 00:42:45.540 Oh, oh definitely. Low thyroid causes the ratio of estrogen to progesterone and androgens 00:42:45.540 --> 00:42:57.020 to be very high and both endometriosis, uterine fibroids and also breast fibrocystic disease, 00:42:57.020 --> 00:43:03.420 all of these go with high estrogen, low progesterone and low thyroid function. 00:43:03.420 --> 00:43:07.620 Okay, Carla, does that help in any way? 00:43:07.620 --> 00:43:13.140 Yeah, it does. Thank you very much. I just was curious because cancers are being talked 00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:18.780 about in relation to urea, if it also would then be translated to breast as well. So that 00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:20.180 did answer it. Thank you so much. 00:43:20.180 --> 00:43:26.500 Okay, you're welcome. So like I said, if we get a chance here, we'll get into the estrogen, 00:43:26.500 --> 00:43:30.100 negative effects of estrogen and talk about isoflavones, but we do have a couple more 00:43:30.100 --> 00:43:35.060 callers. So let's take this next caller. Caller, you're on the air and where are you from? 00:43:35.060 --> 00:43:36.060 Hello? 00:43:36.060 --> 00:43:37.060 Hi, you're on the air. Where are you from? 00:43:37.060 --> 00:43:40.740 Hi, I'm over the hill by Alder Point. 00:43:40.740 --> 00:43:42.540 Okay, and what's your question? 00:43:42.540 --> 00:43:51.220 About insomnia. I take three blood pressure pills for high blood pressure and I sleep 00:43:51.220 --> 00:43:58.580 maybe one to two hours and it takes me an hour to two hours to go back to sleep and 00:43:58.580 --> 00:44:08.620 I'm just exhausted. I can't nap. I get anxiety attacks. I have shingles and I heard that 00:44:08.620 --> 00:44:12.620 tart cherry juice, one to two ounces, helps sleep. 00:44:12.620 --> 00:44:15.860 What was that again? What was that product again? 00:44:15.860 --> 00:44:22.460 Tart cherry juice. I heard that on Dr. Oz. I haven't tried that. But everything I've 00:44:22.460 --> 00:44:26.140 tried over the counter, medications, nothing helps. 00:44:26.140 --> 00:44:29.140 No, I bet. Dr. Peat, you're going to say this is a... 00:44:29.140 --> 00:44:33.940 I'm exhausted. I'll take my answer off the air that way I could write. 00:44:33.940 --> 00:44:38.060 Sure. Okay, Dr. Peat, it's probably an over adrenaline situation, but how would you best 00:44:38.060 --> 00:44:44.100 describe to this lady what she could do to get some sleep? 00:44:44.100 --> 00:44:47.340 Having a test for thyroid function is important. 00:44:47.340 --> 00:44:50.420 Oh, my sister has grave disease. 00:44:50.420 --> 00:44:57.020 There you go. Go ahead, Dr. Peat. 00:44:57.020 --> 00:45:07.780 Blood sugar is always a problem at night. The effect of daylight is to maintain efficient 00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:17.820 oxidative metabolism and just 15 minutes of darkness is enough to lower the efficiency 00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:24.940 of mitochondrial respiration. And so keeping very bright lights right up until bedtime 00:45:24.940 --> 00:45:34.620 will minimize the fall of blood sugar. But having a carbohydrate meal late in the afternoon 00:45:34.620 --> 00:45:47.460 or before bed, a glass of orange juice or milk with honey, sometimes just the dose of 00:45:47.460 --> 00:45:53.700 sugar is enough to put you to sleep for an hour and a half or two hours. It takes time 00:45:53.700 --> 00:46:00.060 for the liver to start storing glycogen. So it's good to have another glass ready for 00:46:00.060 --> 00:46:08.700 when you wake up, have another dose of orange juice or milk and sugar. And salty things, 00:46:08.700 --> 00:46:15.900 salty snacks at bedtime help to stabilize the blood sugar and energy production. So 00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:24.980 like milk and maybe salty tortilla chips or puffed pork rinds, something, a salty snack 00:46:24.980 --> 00:46:25.980 as well as a... 00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:30.980 Even with high blood pressure, you think it's okay? 00:46:30.980 --> 00:46:31.980 It's... 00:46:31.980 --> 00:46:37.340 They've got it so low now. 00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:46.020 You have to take into account what drug you're taking. But vitamin K is a very important 00:46:46.020 --> 00:46:54.620 nutrient for regulating blood sugar, blood calcium and blood pressure. I've known people 00:46:54.620 --> 00:47:07.020 who in a week or two lowered their blood pressure by 100 points, 240 to 140 systolic pressure. 00:47:07.020 --> 00:47:09.780 Really from taking vitamin K? 00:47:09.780 --> 00:47:16.700 Yeah. And so you have to, if you're already at normal blood pressure, you have to be cautious 00:47:16.700 --> 00:47:21.180 and watch what's happening if you supplement large amounts of vitamin K. 00:47:21.180 --> 00:47:25.460 How much would I take in milligrams? I don't know how much. 00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:30.980 Five or 10 milligrams is a pretty safe dose. 00:47:30.980 --> 00:47:32.980 How about vitamin D? 00:47:32.980 --> 00:47:41.300 That's essential. If you aren't getting regular sunlight or using a D supplement, you probably 00:47:41.300 --> 00:47:51.540 should have a blood test because low blood vitamin D, down around 20 on the scale should 00:47:51.540 --> 00:47:56.580 be around 50 points. Between 30 and 100 is the normal range. 00:47:56.580 --> 00:48:02.300 Okay. I'm sorry to interrupt. So just get a complete blood panel like? 00:48:02.300 --> 00:48:08.300 Well, you have to ask for a specific vitamin D3 test. 00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:12.300 Oh, vitamin D3 test. Okay. 00:48:12.300 --> 00:48:19.900 And you don't want the activated vitamin D. It's the 25-hydroxycholecalciferol that you 00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:29.140 want to measure. And that's very important. Both vitamin K and vitamin D prevent the excitatory 00:48:29.140 --> 00:48:35.820 excess. And so it's essential to have your calcium regulated. 00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:42.820 Can I ask you how I could speak to you? Do you have an office in Garberville? 00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:48.500 Dr. Peat doesn't have an office in Garberville, but I do. If you wanted to, you could consult 00:48:48.500 --> 00:48:53.420 with me at any point in time. You can just contact me Monday through Friday. I'll give 00:48:53.420 --> 00:48:57.780 the number out at the end of the show. Okay, great. Thank you very, very much. 00:48:57.780 --> 00:48:59.780 You're welcome. I appreciate your time. 00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:00.780 You're welcome. Bye-bye. 00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:05.780 Thank you. We do have two more callers on the air, so let's take the next caller. 00:49:05.780 --> 00:49:06.780 Caller, you're on the air. Hello. 00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:07.780 And where are you from? Hi, you're on the air. 00:49:07.780 --> 00:49:14.780 Okay, I've got a couple of questions. One, I want to know about this urea, if it's so 00:49:14.780 --> 00:49:19.540 good for cancer, and you say even cancer of the liver, I know liver cancer is very difficult 00:49:19.540 --> 00:49:22.780 to treat. Why is this not a more popular treatment? 00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:28.340 Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I don't want to say it's conspiracy, but I 00:49:28.340 --> 00:49:32.860 think sometimes simple things get buried. And I think the truth of that is that when 00:49:32.860 --> 00:49:38.540 things are so simple, they'll quickly get buried under a paper of a pile of papers that 00:49:38.540 --> 00:49:43.060 are supporting the latest and greatest treatments. And as we know, there is no real treatment 00:49:43.060 --> 00:49:47.620 for cancer. I think the cancer industry probably has one of the worst track records going for 00:49:47.620 --> 00:49:50.160 cures. Well, it seems like, I mean, I have a friend 00:49:50.160 --> 00:49:55.900 that got over cancer with radiation and chemotherapy, and she beat it, and she had a couple of large 00:49:55.900 --> 00:50:02.580 tumors. So these things do work, maybe not always 100%, but more than they used to. 00:50:02.580 --> 00:50:09.500 Yeah, I think there's lots of things to look out for, though, in terms of relapses with 00:50:09.500 --> 00:50:16.220 initial treatments. But that's not to say that everybody gets a relapse and ends up 00:50:16.220 --> 00:50:23.300 with cancer down the line. The five-year mortality for cancers are post-operative are pretty 00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:27.060 poor in most cases. There are not many cancers that are that truly resolved. 00:50:27.060 --> 00:50:32.780 Well, they get a little time anyway. If they don't do anything, they die. 00:50:32.780 --> 00:50:38.980 Well, yeah. Now, the other thing I wanted to know is I 00:50:38.980 --> 00:50:47.100 was taking something called glucosamine MSM for joint flexibility. What is this MSM? Do 00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:51.420 you know what that is? They said it was a sulfur that your cells needed or something. 00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:55.980 Is that important to take as a supplement? It is a sulfur compound, but I don't know 00:50:55.980 --> 00:51:01.140 what it is, Dr. Peat. Dr. Peat, what do you have to say about MSM? 00:51:01.140 --> 00:51:08.540 I think you should be very cautious and read some of the actual research articles on PubMed 00:51:08.540 --> 00:51:16.700 about it. And the glucosamine, which was the... 00:51:16.700 --> 00:51:21.220 Glucosamine with MSM. 00:51:21.220 --> 00:51:32.260 The glucosamine is suspected of being a factor in creating diabetes if you take too much 00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:34.500 of it for too long. 00:51:34.500 --> 00:51:39.260 But what about the MSM? What is the problem with that? 00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:40.780 It can be toxic in itself. 00:51:40.780 --> 00:51:47.780 Toxic? How? I mean, and how much would that be? 00:51:47.780 --> 00:51:56.780 Because what they told me was that it was something that your cells needed to be healthy. 00:51:56.780 --> 00:52:06.020 No, cells definitely don't need it, but it's tolerated in fairly large amounts, but it 00:52:06.020 --> 00:52:07.980 can also be toxic in those amounts. 00:52:07.980 --> 00:52:11.580 Okay, so what are the amounts that are safe? 00:52:11.580 --> 00:52:12.580 Well, I wouldn't... 00:52:12.580 --> 00:52:16.540 You don't know? Okay, the other one thing I want to ask you, you know, you were saying 00:52:16.540 --> 00:52:24.060 that fish oil is not so good, but I heard that fish oil, like omega-3s, are really good 00:52:24.060 --> 00:52:26.940 for the heart. What do you think about that? 00:52:26.940 --> 00:52:36.660 No, the studies have all ended up pretty negative. 00:52:36.660 --> 00:52:43.300 What studies are negative? 00:52:43.300 --> 00:52:52.540 When it's used for a short period, you can do things like lowering cholesterol and lowering 00:52:52.540 --> 00:53:00.700 blood pressure, but it ends up with the toxic immune suppressive effects. 00:53:00.700 --> 00:53:08.180 And it also has thyroid suppressive effects, very negatively impacting the energy supply 00:53:08.180 --> 00:53:09.180 and the energy production. 00:53:09.180 --> 00:53:15.420 Are you saying that the omega-3 lowers the thyroid function? 00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:17.420 Yeah, and it's specifically thyrotoxic. 00:53:17.420 --> 00:53:18.420 Really? 00:53:18.420 --> 00:53:19.420 Yeah. 00:53:19.420 --> 00:53:20.420 I have to take thyroid. 00:53:20.420 --> 00:53:27.500 Yeah. Okay, so they produce the byproducts of these polyunsaturated oils. The lipofruscine 00:53:27.500 --> 00:53:33.820 is one of the main thyroid suppressive compounds. And indeed, as Dr. Peat says, whilst in the 00:53:33.820 --> 00:53:42.020 short term, somebody who has plaque psoriasis may benefit from it, the actual reason for 00:53:42.020 --> 00:53:47.020 it is that the immune system itself is being impacted negatively and suppressed. And so 00:53:47.020 --> 00:53:51.780 therefore there's not such excitation going on with rapid cell turnover in the immune 00:53:51.780 --> 00:53:52.780 system. 00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:53.780 Well, why is it so popular? 00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:57.340 It's so popular because it's an extremely profitable product. 00:53:57.340 --> 00:53:58.340 Like margarine? 00:53:58.340 --> 00:53:59.340 It's a waste product. 00:53:59.340 --> 00:54:04.540 Okay, and one more thing. Sesame tahini, that's made out of sesame seeds. Is that... 00:54:04.540 --> 00:54:10.460 The same problem. It's a liquid oil. It's polyunsaturated. People don't get oil out 00:54:10.460 --> 00:54:16.180 of nuts and seeds. It just doesn't happen. It's very small amounts. And so to consume 00:54:16.180 --> 00:54:23.500 either sesame or Brazil nut or peanut or whatever nut oil is consuming a lot of the product 00:54:23.500 --> 00:54:27.740 that you'd never normally get exposed to. And this is the whole rationale behind understanding 00:54:27.740 --> 00:54:29.940 the negative impacts of these oils, is that... 00:54:29.940 --> 00:54:33.540 So you don't think that sesame seeds have good stuff for you? 00:54:33.540 --> 00:54:39.300 No, no, none of it. It's a very, very rancid, very easily rancified. They're extremely quickly 00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:45.660 oxidized and turn into a sticky goo on the top of the jar. Anybody can take the top of 00:54:45.660 --> 00:54:49.700 a canola jar or a fish oil bottle and you'll see how sticky it is. And that's because your 00:54:49.700 --> 00:54:54.180 oil has been so quickly oxidized. In your body, that same thing happens and that oxidative 00:54:54.180 --> 00:54:55.460 damage is extremely damaging. 00:54:55.460 --> 00:54:59.300 Well, you can tell if it's rancid by the smell and the taste. It's very obvious. 00:54:59.300 --> 00:55:02.900 Coconut oil does not go rancid. You could keep coconut oil for years and it will not 00:55:02.900 --> 00:55:04.940 go rancid because it's so stable. 00:55:04.940 --> 00:55:06.940 Are any nuts good for you? 00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:10.380 Not really. Well, I think one of the only nuts maybe that might be worth a mention perhaps 00:55:10.380 --> 00:55:14.460 is the Mauna Loa produced macadamia nuts. 00:55:14.460 --> 00:55:18.340 Well, I was seeing on Dr. Oz that he said the cashew nuts were very healthy. 00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:21.140 Yeah, no, unfortunately not. 00:55:21.140 --> 00:55:27.380 Okay, okay. And what about CoQ10? Is that a good thing to take? 00:55:27.380 --> 00:55:30.380 Dr. Peay, what do you have to say about CoQ10? I think you would take it. 00:55:30.380 --> 00:55:37.140 I think it is good. It works with vitamin K to stabilize energy production. 00:55:37.140 --> 00:55:41.140 Okay, does vitamin K help vitamin D work better? 00:55:41.140 --> 00:55:48.420 Yeah, they both do different things, but they regulate calcium and vitamin K has that extra 00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:51.540 function of stabilizing energy and brain chemistry. 00:55:51.540 --> 00:55:54.540 All right, well, thank you very much. Bye-bye. 00:55:54.540 --> 00:56:00.780 Thank you. We do have another caller, but if we can get this next caller, next question 00:56:00.780 --> 00:56:05.020 asked and answered in a couple of minutes, Dr. Peay, that would be great. Go ahead, caller. 00:56:05.020 --> 00:56:06.500 You're on the air. Where are you from? 00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:12.060 Yes, hello. I'm calling from Bellevue, Idaho, and I'd like to know, you've discussed how 00:56:12.060 --> 00:56:19.180 it takes four years to change the saturated fat ratio of your cells to a healthy range. 00:56:19.180 --> 00:56:23.420 What if you're overweight? Then does it take longer to achieve this healthy ratio? 00:56:23.420 --> 00:56:24.420 Yeah. 00:56:24.420 --> 00:56:30.100 Yeah. So, okay, Dr. Peay, how would you suggest that somebody who was, I don't know this person 00:56:30.100 --> 00:56:34.380 is, but if somebody was obese, for example, and they had all this excess body fat, which 00:56:34.380 --> 00:56:42.420 naturally would be pretty highly unsaturated, how would they go about changing the composition 00:56:42.420 --> 00:56:47.100 of their fat, not only by changing their diet to only include saturated fats, but how would 00:56:47.100 --> 00:56:51.860 they gently exercise and lose weight to do that safely? 00:56:51.860 --> 00:56:59.220 Having your thyroid at the right level is one thing, and supplementing vitamin E, because 00:56:59.220 --> 00:57:05.740 when you're losing stored fat, it's going to travel through your bloodstream, and so 00:57:05.740 --> 00:57:12.820 you want to have a steady supply of vitamin E coming in. Maybe 50 milligrams a day would 00:57:12.820 --> 00:57:23.300 help. And a lot of fruit, orange juice, for example, has safe antioxidants besides vitamin 00:57:23.300 --> 00:57:33.300 C that protect your blood vessels as the fat is being removed. And keeping your temperature 00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:44.820 steady at 98.6 or close to it during the daytime keeps you burning your energy productively 00:57:44.820 --> 00:57:46.420 rather than destructively. 00:57:46.420 --> 00:57:50.220 Okay. So, Carla, there you go. 00:57:50.220 --> 00:57:58.980 Well, then, as long as you retain the weight, then you still have an issue, then, with unsaturated 00:57:58.980 --> 00:58:01.860 fat cells. Is that correct? 00:58:01.860 --> 00:58:11.020 Yeah. When you lose the fat, you're going to expose your tissues to that polyunsaturated 00:58:11.020 --> 00:58:18.740 fat that is in storage. And if you keep your liver energetic with a good diet, enough protein, 00:58:18.740 --> 00:58:24.980 80 to 100 grams a day of good protein, and keep your thyroid function up, your liver 00:58:24.980 --> 00:58:33.980 will be able to dispose of some of that unsaturated fat as a toxin without having to oxidize it. 00:58:33.980 --> 00:58:39.900 So, gentle exercise, keep yourself warm, make sure your thyroid function is working well, 00:58:39.900 --> 00:58:45.540 consume saturated fats, lots of OJ and other fructose-containing fruits and/or fruit juices 00:58:45.540 --> 00:58:51.220 to speed up your metabolism, and then coconut oil, obviously, as a thermogenic alternative 00:58:51.220 --> 00:58:53.420 to polyunsaturated fat. 00:58:53.420 --> 00:58:58.460 Okay. Well, unfortunately, that's all we have time for. So, thanks to those people that 00:58:58.460 --> 00:59:05.140 have called in. I just want to give people a reminder of how they can find more of Dr. 00:59:05.140 --> 00:59:09.540 Peat's reference material on site. Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Peat. 00:59:09.540 --> 00:59:10.860 Okay. Thank you. 00:59:10.860 --> 00:59:19.580 Okay. So, on the internet, www.raypeat.com, R-A-Y-P-E-A-T.com, lots of scholarly articles, 00:59:19.580 --> 00:59:24.900 fully referenced research material. It's not hocus-pocus. It's all research material. So, 00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:31.380 just like Dr. Danopoulos with the stunning results with liver cancer as well as skin 00:59:31.380 --> 00:59:37.500 cancers and ocular cancers, there's lots of alternatives out there, and it's not wacko. 00:59:37.500 --> 00:59:41.020 It's just unfortunate it's not mainstream, but that's because it doesn't make too much 00:59:41.020 --> 00:59:42.300 money, I suspect. 00:59:42.300 --> 00:59:46.900 Anyway, for those of you who have joined us, thanks so much for tuning in. 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