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Well, thank you once again. Welcome to Ask Your DERB Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray.
My name is Sarah Johanneson Murray.
For those of you who perhaps have never listened to the shows which run every third Friday of the month from 7 till 8 p.m.,
we are both licensed medical herbalists who trained in England and graduated there with a degree in herbal medicine.
And we run a clinic in Garboville where we consult with clients about a wide range of conditions and recommend herb supplements and nutritional counseling.
So you're listening to Ask Your DERB Doctor on KMUD Garboville 91.1 FM and from 7.30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock,
you're invited to call in with any questions either related or unrelated to this month's continuing subject of nitric oxide,
nitrates, nitrites, fluoride, other components that are in the food chain and decreasing fertility.
So quite a few controversial subjects. And I guess before I get into the topic here with the first kickoff, which is fluoride and what's been revealed about fluoride,
I'd like to very much welcome Dr. Peat for giving his time so freely to join us on these shows. Dr. Peat, are you there?
Oh, yes. Hi.
Thanks so much for joining us. I just want to, as always, give you the opportunity to outline your academic and professional backgrounds.
So for those people who perhaps have never listened to you, when they hear you talk, I think it's unequivocal that you sound very well informed.
And a population should always be as informed as possible in order to make wise decisions.
So if you would first just start up by letting people know your academic and professional background, then we'll get into tonight's topic.
OK. 1968 to 72, I studied biology, physiology and biochemistry, especially at the University of Oregon for a PhD.
Before that, I was in linguistics, literature, painting and such. And since then, I've been writing newsletters and doing consulting.
OK. Your background, I think, is very much focused on the energetic state of the organism.
I mean, you know, you refer to humans and us as organisms, which we are just like.
I'm not saying we're like yeasts and molds and slimes, but we're all living organisms.
And in terms of the energy production of an organism and its ability to thrive and survive, that's a very important component.
And I know that your a lot of your research work with hormones related to fertility, not just fertility, but productivity and energy metabolism,
mitochondrial energy production have been key in understanding the mechanism by which disease happens.
And you have some very groundbreaking thoughts and those thoughts towards disease processes that most other people haven't really made the link.
So I really appreciate your genuine passion for your subject.
I had been intending to study brain biology when I went to university and the dogmatism in the biology department made me look elsewhere.
And I found that reproductive physiology was an open, more scientific area.
And so after I finished my thesis on the aging of the reproductive system, I went back and applied that information to how the brain works.
And I spent a year or two writing my book, Minds and Tissue.
Okay. Did you find the subject of reproductive physiology as dogmatic as the other branches of science?
So no, not at all.
My thesis advisor, Arnold Soderwal, had been one of the pioneers in exploring the effects of vitamin E as a fertility nutrient.
And in the 1940s, 30s and 40s, actually, it was vitamin E was recognized as protection against polyunsaturated fats and against estrogen.
Both of those were things that interfered with oxidative energy production.
And so vitamin E was preserving the ability of tissues to oxidize properly.
And it has come to be known as an antioxidant, but really it should be thought of as a normalizer of good oxidative metabolism.
Well, that brings me to another point.
In terms of being informed, most people think that when you hear the word estrogen, and I think this includes me up until about eight years ago,
having been dogmatically brainwashed, if you like, by the industry providing the education in herbal medicine,
very allied to regular Western medicine in terms of the physiology, the biochemistry, the pathology and the differential diagnosis, etc.
Very science-based, regular mainstream medical education.
And it wasn't until I'd left maybe 10 years later after having read different reports and looking very alternatively, as is my profession,
to look at a holistic way of trying to approach disease that I've discovered the lies, basically,
that were fed through the system from the top down, from the professors to the students.
And again, I think without exception, wherever there's prestige, there's a big degree of brainwashing,
going along with the, you know, whether it's the money from industry that's paying off people to keep things quiet
or to produce bogus scientific research to support something so potentially dangerous products can make it to the market,
whether it's paying off the FDA to allow things to be cleared.
I think all the way through government, wherever there's money, especially big amounts of money,
there's a huge amount of corruption that can come through it and most people are not immune to it.
So I wanted to give a couple of statements, a couple of statements that have been mentioned here,
just to help people understand this part of the show is much more about what we think we know, we really don't know.
And everybody has access to the Internet now, pretty much, probably more so than ever before,
and cell phones, etc., that are on the Internet make it all possible if you don't have a desktop or a laptop computer even.
But the Internet is a huge resource for people to stand up and say what it is that you're probably not going to hear on Fox, CNN, you know,
or regular mainstream media. I think, and it's a good thing, I think regular mainstream media is dying a very, very slow death here.
And the Internet, whilst you do find a lot of cranky things on the Internet,
I think there's an amazing platform for people to spread research and truth and for everybody to find it.
So I think there's always a self-evident truth that most people, when they hear it, it just rings true,
rather than someone trying to sell you something or just spin an idea for their own gain or their own profit.
The two quotes then, "A people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives," number one.
And then Thomas Jefferson's famous quote, "A nation of sheep will be ruled by wolves."
Just to say that we have some very important constitutional rights in this country that were laid down, 1776, everyone's heard about it.
I was born in Britain, you know, I'm a US citizen now and proud to be in the US and quite happy to be away from England and its tyrannical control.
And this country has a big history of having a lot of freedom, so that's something that we really need to preserve.
OK, so let's get into the next question of things that we think are good for us that the government, you know,
our elected officials who should be doing what we tell them to do, not what goes on now.
Things that get passed in government, that get bought out, lobbyists controlling people in the Senate, etc.,
and allowing industry to do what they do, but the Internet reveals a lot of the truth about what's being done
and the science behind the truth, so people that have any education at all, even uneducated people, can see that it's not made up.
And one of those things, I guess the start of it all, I really wanted just to get into fluoride.
It was not actually the main topic of tonight's discussion with you, Dr. Peat, because I know you have plenty of research that you're doing
and a newsletter that you're writing here on nitric oxide, and nitric oxide being one of those things that I think most people just believe is good for you.
And I picked up on what you said originally about estrogen and doing what you were doing with estrogen, showing how damaging it is.
And most people, especially women, they just think estrogen is just completely normal and it's something that they have,
and it's not harmful, it's not inflammatory, it's not carcinogenic.
And a lot of this comes through the medical education and the doctors and what they'll tell you,
what they've been told by the people that are doing the bogus science and/or the profiteering, I'd call it, for a big industry.
So a lot of what we hear, you cannot just believe it.
And I would encourage anybody and everybody just to research what I'm saying.
I mean, I might just be telling you a complete lie, but I'm not that you can find this out for yourself.
So getting on to fluoride then, I just wanted to say that, I have a little paragraph here I just had prepared for the subject,
just to show you how, gosh, how evil it all is, really, because it's kind of unbelievable.
I think the biggest deception is the largest lie you can produce is probably the most easy to hide in plain sight,
because it's just so stupendously unbelievable that most people just don't even see it.
It's hidden in plain sight.
So that the fluoride that they put in our drinking water is not even a pharmaceutical additive,
a pharmaceutical-grade additive.
That's the first thing that you should know.
It's an industrial waste by-product.
And making money from waste products, selling them as additives or food, is big business.
And with increasing aluminum production in the beginning of the 20th century,
it became necessary to find somewhere to put the fluoride, which was a waste by-product of the industry.
And manufacturers at this point could no longer get away with just dumping it into rivers or landfills,
because it was poisoning crops and making livestock sick.
Now, Francis Frary, chief scientist for Alcoa, had an idea.
He commissioned Gerald Cox at the Mellon Institute, have you ever heard of him?
Well, to conduct research regarding the benefits of adding fluoride to the water supply.
Now, the Mellon Institute was frequently hired by big business to produce research that supported their industries.
And for several decades, they produced research showing that asbestos was safe and didn't cause cancer.
Another proponent of the safety of fluoride at the time was scientist Harold Hodge,
who was later exposed as part of the human radiation experiment,
where test subjects were injected with plutonium and uranium in 1945 through '46.
And this was documented by the Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Eileen Wilson in the plutonium files.
And you can buy this on Amazon, you can watch it on YouTube.
So, the plutonium files just basically outlines everything that was done in these hideous experiments
on the human radiation project, done by, overseen by Harold Hodge.
Now, Hodge was also the chief toxicologist of the Manhattan Project.
And fluoride was a key component in the production of the atom bomb.
And his studies were conducted with a bias toward proving fluoride safe,
which would protect the government and industry from lawsuits.
Now, the phony research science done to support water fluoridation was underwritten by these massive companies.
The Aluminum Company of America, Alcoa, the Aluminum Company of Canada,
the American Petroleum Institute, DuPont, Kaiser Aluminum, Reynolds Steel, U.S. Steel,
and the National Institute of Dental Research.
Surprise, surprise.
Now, PR master Edwin, sorry, Edward Bernays, also known as the "Father of Spin",
created the PR campaign to sell fluoride to the nation as an additive,
recommended by a doctor and dentist for healthy teeth.
And he was a pioneer of modern propaganda and used the theories of mass psychology and persuasion
to suit the needs of corporate and political organizations.
And the main fluoride chemical added to water today is hydrofluorosilic, uh, fluorosilic acid.
Uh, it's an industrial byproduct from the phosphate fertilizer industry now.
And fluoride given to rats has been proven to cause bone cancer, liver cancer,
and a host of other physical ailments.
So, Dr. Peat, I know I hadn't particularly asked you, uh, about fluoride.
I know we'll talk into some of the other subjects here that, um, I think we are, uh, prepared for.
But, um, fluoride, what's your take on fluoride?
I mean, is there any, any logic to anything they're saying about fluoride in teeth?
Um, I read a few studies in the 1970s in which they had compared villages that had high fluoride
or, uh, zero fluoride added to the water and, uh, it happens that the teeth were healthier in the village
without the fluoride.
And some of the early studies were done in Montana towns where the water was naturally mineralized
and they were getting trace minerals, uh, natural in the mountain water.
And they didn't, uh, control for that.
They blamed the fluoride content for the good dental health.
But it was probably the, uh, magnesium, molybdenum, uh, other trace minerals in the water
that helped the teeth mature properly.
And that, because I was interested, I went to hear John Yamajanas talk.
And he was very impressive.
He was supposedly debating with a dentist who claimed to be an expert on fluoridation.
And he finally got the dentist to admit that his preparation consisted of reading a review article.
Yamajanas had worked for the abstracting service, I think it was biological abstracts,
and was familiar with 15,000 studies on fluoride.
And so he could make any opponent look ridiculous.
And so they avoided debating him.
They just said he was a quack and so shouldn't be even given serious hearing.
And Yamajanas and Dean Burke did a study in Los Angeles
and found that fluoridation before and after fluoride was added,
the cancer incidence increased.
Dean Burke really was one of the best cancer researchers in the world.
He was a colleague of Otto Warburg.
So Dean Burke's reputation was damaged by getting involved with fluoride.
Yeah, it's unfortunate in the geopolitical landscape
that people that align themselves with the truth are often attacked and discredited
and people that have genuine humanitarian ethics when they go into science and research
find things that disturb them and quite rightly they want to blow the whistle on it.
And then obviously they suffer the, you know, the tirade of abuse or discrediting that goes on
to make them seem like idiots or quacks as you mentioned.
And like I said, it's so difficult, folks.
Sometimes the truth is in plain sight, but it's the most difficult to see.
It's like the phrase "can't see the wood for the trees."
But anyway, like I said, the Internet is a great resource to find out lots of stuff
that you're not going to find on mainstream news.
And thank goodness mainstream media is slowly dying a death.
Dr. Peat, I wanted to ask you about something that I know you're fairly recently involved with
in terms of the--and I'm not just talking about the additives to food, but it is an additive.
And again, I think this is important that people recognize and wake up to what is allowed.
If we talk about a government that allows certain things, then obviously the corruption issue comes in
where the money is a big part of making the decision to allow it
and phony science that seems to support its use or its safety being allowed
when that actually isn't the truth and there is no real scientific proof that it can stand
and actually be a safe product.
Let's just talk about nitrates and nitrites.
Go ahead.
Around 1970, there were studies of the nitrosamines compounds,
mostly involving proline or other amino acids reacting with nitrates in the stomach.
And it came out that they were very powerful carcinogens and that they are formed in cigarette smoke.
They're one of the major carcinogens in cigarette smoke.
But the farm industry was forcing greater production by using artificial fertilizers, high nitrate fertilizers.
And spinach produced with those fertilizers will grow very, very quickly, produce a lot of mass.
But forcing it with the high nitrate causes it to contain several times as much nitrate as normal vegetables would.
And the cooking process alone forms the nitrosamines, so well-cooked spinach.
Even when you're boiling a vegetable in water, rather than the high heat,
you typically associate nitrosamines with like bacon or...
Yeah, but even vegetables which have the reputation for being associated with a low cancer incidence
because of the many good nutrients they contain.
It happens if you choose the vegetables that are industrially over-fertilized with nitrate
and then cook them thoroughly so that they're digestible,
you're producing the same sort of carcinogen that tobacco smoke contains.
Now, presumably, I don't mean to butt in here, Dr. Peat, but presumably, nitrate fertilizers, I mean, are they...
I wonder if they're allowed organically.
Yeah, they could be chicken manure that... No, no, I don't think nitrate fertilizers are allowed organically.
But, I mean, maybe the chicken manure... I don't know, Michael looks like he has something to say here.
Maybe they're over-fertilizing even with chicken manure.
I mean, in organic farming.
Yeah, the nitrogen could be in the form of ammonia.
That would be the safe way for the plants to get their nitrogen.
And there wouldn't be any problem then, but the more they're forced with an excess of nitrogen,
they simply absorb the nitrate or nitrite in a crude chemical form that isn't doing the plant any good.
But when you eat it, then it circulates in your body and is then exposed to many layers of enzymic and non-enzymic interactions,
free radicals, as well as reductases will convert nitrate to nitrite, nitrate to nitric oxide.
And those increase according to your level of stress.
So when you're eating food that either contains it as preservatives, like in processed meats or the industrially produced vegetables,
you're creating the conditions for a bad reaction to stress.
And then if you're stressed out when you're eating, then that makes it even worse?
I would suppose so.
It makes all digestion worse, right?
With old age, the conversion of the ordinary protein arginine to nitric oxide is accelerated by the various things that interfere with your cellular oxidation.
And then if you add environmental nitrates or nitrites to that, you're making your ability to resist stress weaker and weaker because these things accumulate and become a more abundant source of nitric oxide,
which then feeds back and blocks the ability to use oxygen.
So what about the naturally derived nitrates from celery?
Probably just as bad.
I think they're just as bad.
Yeah, because it's the bottom line, they're still producing nitrates.
So does the process of aging then can accelerate the process of nitric oxide or nitrate formation in the elderly?
The argument that the industry is pushing is that brain circulation supposedly goes with intelligence.
It does in young people.
And so if you increase the diameter of the blood vessels by increasing your nitric oxide, you're going to reverse the process of brain aging by getting more blood circulating.
It does help the brain to function to circulate more blood through it.
But the problem is that nitric oxide at the same time is blocking the ability to use the oxygen.
So it's imitating a shock state in which the blood or in cirrhosis, for example, you get an exaggerated circulation of blood,
which isn't being used because things are inhibiting the oxidative enzymes.
And in the spontaneously age accelerated rats and mice, they're genetic mutants that age at about three or four times the normal rate.
They're very old when they're six months old.
These animals happen to produce tremendous amounts of nitric oxide.
And so the people arguing for the sale of nitric oxide products say, well, that's because they're defective and they need more nitric oxide.
So they say that the high concentration of nitric oxide in the prematurely senile animals is there protectively.
But when you intervene, for example, exposing to overdoses of ultraviolet light or ionizing radiation,
you create changes similar to those of aging, including gene mutations and so on.
And you can extract the liquid from an organism that has been irradiated and that liquid will produce the same deterioration mutations and so on.
The bystander effect.
Yeah. And the bystander effect is largely the result of overproduction of nitric oxide.
OK, you're listening to Ask Your ObDoctor on KMED Garboville 91.1 FM.
And from now until the end of the show, eight o'clock, callers are either welcomed and or encouraged to call in with any questions related to this month's subject of what the government don't tell us about what they tell us is good and or the wider subject of nitric oxide and some of the some of the chemicals we're talking about, fluoride here, and then nitrates and nitrites, which are common preservatives in meat.
The number, if you live in the area, is nine to three, three nine one one.
If you're outside the area, there's an 800 number, which is one eight hundred KMUD Rad.
That's one eight hundred five six eight three seven two three.
And we definitely welcome all those people that call from all over the state.
So I really appreciate this cause.
I did actually get a just by the by here, Dr. Peat.
I got an email from a listener in Germany today who actually asked me a question and wanted to know what your opinion on cannabis was.
So I don't without getting too geopolitical, because I know this is a kind of a seat, a seat of cannabis and its useful alternative disease and cancers and other things.
But he he was he was saying that he was kind of frightened by the what he did recognize both himself and in the wider perspective of cannabis is negative effects.
He wanted to know what your your understanding of cannabis was.
And I know that you'll come from a purely physiological and fact based perspective.
So what are your views on cannabis?
When I was 10 years old, a doctor prescribed it for migraines and I took a glass of the tea every day for about a month.
A big bag full of cannabis leaves.
And I didn't notice really any effect.
So I was never impressed by the claims for its great sedative or painkilling effects or whatever.
But I know it does have those useful sedative effects.
What do you think of the potential estrogenic effect of it, given that it's in the same family as hops?
Only two members exist in the cannabinoid, cannabis sativa and then humulus lupulus, the hop.
And I know in England and the summertime, when typically the women would be picking the hops in the hop fields for the beer industry,
most of these women would skip their menstrual cycle because it was such a disruptor of the menstrual cycle because of its estrogenic activity.
How about that?
What do you know about that?
It does have an antitestosterone effect.
I think the worst effects are when it's smoked because the smoke itself has an estrogen action.
Okay.
Yeah.
So from that perspective, I mean, I know that you talk a lot about estrogen as being a very negative pro-inflammatory hormone.
I mean, that's correct enough, isn't it?
Yeah, in general.
In general.
It activates the immune system in a short-term antibody-producing way that is in certain situations useful,
but it's why women have very high incidence of autoimmune disorders because it impairs the energy resources at the same time
that it's making these short-term emergency changes in the immune system.
Right.
Okay.
So let's move on.
Oh, do we have a caller?
Yeah, okay.
We have a caller.
Let's take the first caller.
Caller, where are you from?
Well, I also, I'm from Midway, and I found a little information I couldn't find.
I do believe that all the synthetic fertilizers are not organically listed, and I dove through a whole bunch of things,
and nothing is saying that it is, although I haven't found something that says it isn't.
And the highest nitrogen content I have found of the things they're advertising in this quick search has been about 12 percent.
Oh, that's pretty high.
And I believe you can get a little bit higher.
Yeah.
That's higher than chicken manure, isn't it?
Yeah, that was a feather meal.
And I would wonder about human-based or cow-based urines, too.
I know in Sweden they're collecting urine.
I think chemically nitrogen is nitrogen.
If you have too much, it's bad for the soil and bad for everything, no matter where it's from.
But I'm not the source on that, and we do have a caller.
Thank you, Michael.
Okay, caller, welcome to the show.
Where are you from?
This is David from Missouri.
Oh, hey, David.
How are you all doing?
Doing good.
What's your question?
So I'm glad you're talking about the government, and I guess I want to comment on the fact that there always seems to be a lot of confusion out in the world,
if you've listened to any of the debates about different political systems, you know, like communism, socialism, democracy, or even some of the terms capitalism.
And it's just amazing that really our government is such a nebulous term.
We don't even know what our government is.
It appears that it's like a corporate structure that's being run by corporations.
It's just being used as a shell to hide under.
And we're always baffled by the fact that things like fluoride are being put into our water, and it's an industrial waste.
And they use these different methods to, you know, conceal things they're doing.
But then at the same time, it appears that there's something a little bit more evil going on at the same time,
which, of course, once we start going in that direction, then we're conspiracy theorists.
But just in general, if you look at the government, with everything to do with our food supply, with the military, the banking industry,
I mean, what they get away with, corporations that is, supposedly, when we have this government to protect us,
it's obvious that it's all just a big illusion, you know, a scam.
And, you know, I keep thinking about Dr. Peat really has awakened me to this idea of learned helplessness.
In a way, that's what the program is all the time, is trying to get as much of the population to learn helplessness.
If you are aware of all these different things going on, and you talk to, there's so many people that are just so asleep,
and have no idea these things are going on, and when you talk about them, they think you're crazy.
So, it's, you know, I'm glad you're talking about it. It seems like there should be a lot more attention devoted to it,
because all these different things that we're always struggling with, with why this is being done, why is this going on?
Well, it appears to be a part of a larger agenda, that I'm not sure exactly what the end game is there, but it's not good.
We mentioned eugenics, or, you know, you could get a lot deeper into this whole political conversation.
Yeah, you know, of course, I've heard you say, Andrew, you know, I don't want to get political here,
and I understand why you don't want to do that, because people condemn you if you start going down these paths.
But I'm telling you, we need to start going down these paths. People need to start waking up to what's going on.
It's been going on a long time, but now it seems like it's really accelerated.
Yeah, well, I think the Internet is largely responsible for making this kind of information possible,
and radio stations like KMUD that are not controlled to a large extent, and free speech is still allowed.
And that's why we have Dr. Peat on the show, because he's very grounded in science.
Yeah, I know, and I appreciate this show so much. It's just unbelievable.
I mean, you know, again, the idea of the corporations and how they have taken everything over and have such incredible power.
And, you know, if you think about the banking industry, Southeast corporations are just evil.
I mean, they are so in control, and people have no idea.
So evil.
Just like corporate media. I mean, it is a brainwashing program, an extreme brainwashing program.
Yeah, and it doesn't want you arguing or fighting back. It wants you just sitting there, taking it, lying down.
Well, Dr. Peat.
It wants to have us all just helpless, you know, to realize that we can't do anything.
And they're doing a good job.
Well, we can do something. That's the whole point.
I believe it, too.
We do have constitutional rights here. So folks, exercise your rights or they are going to be lost.
Yeah, and just, you know, I think we all just need to speak up more to people and talk more to people about, you know, check this out.
You know, this is not true. We need to get to the truth.
Yeah, it's a great nation we live in, folks.
God bless America. It's an awesome country, and the rest of the world looks to it to lead the way.
And if we don't wake up here soon, it's not going to be around much longer.
So anyway, hopefully people listening to this show recognize the truth that's being told, and they can go check it out for themselves.
I think we've talked about so many subjects that are controversial, and there is science behind it to show that the truth is there.
So that's pretty much our thrust.
Let's get into the rest of tonight's show here.
I did just want to ask Dr. Peat, since you've been around a little bit longer than we have, what do you see?
Can I ask you for your comments on this state of our country?
Oh, well, I talked to old people when I was young to try to find out what it was like 50 years before my time.
And my impression is really that it has been declining rapidly for about 150 years now.
And in the 60 years that I've been studying and talking to people about politics and such, the problems that I saw in the late 1940s and '50s,
I was one of the few people talking about it at that time, but now it is probably there are millions of people using the Internet to see the same drift of events,
which basically is corporate control and using education and the media to make the people think that things are progressing.
The story that lifespan has been lengthened, the cancer war is being won.
They're simply creating fraudulent statistics. The Romans, the adult lifespan in ancient Rome was about the same as 20th century America.
And we supposedly have all this technology to help us now and the science to do miraculous things, and yet we really haven't advanced much at all.
The whole war on cancer is a complete joke.
Well, thank you for that, Dr. Peat.
Okay, so I just wanted to open up another subject here of another food, and hopefully people will wake up to the truth about what's going on here.
An Austrian study finding that eating GE corn may reduce fertility.
So a study sponsored by the Austrian Ministries for Agriculture and Health found that mice fed genetically engineered corn developed by the Monsanto company produced fewer offspring than those fed conventional corn.
The study was led by Dr. Jürgen Zentech, professor of veterinary medicine at the University of Vienna.
For 20 weeks, Dr. Zentech and his team fed mice diets consisting of either 33% genetically engineered corn or 33% of a closely related non-genetically engineered variety.
The diets were otherwise nutritionally equivalent.
Mice fed the GE corn diet had fewer litters, fewer total offspring, smaller offspring, and more females with no offspring than mice fed the conventional corn.
The effects were particularly pronounced in the third and fourth litters after the mice had consumed the GE corn for a longer period of time.
The authors attributed the reduced fertility to the GE corn feed and said it might be related to unintended effects of the genetic modification process.
"This meticulous study suggests that a popular type of genetically engineered corn may harbor fertility-reducing substances," said Bill Friess, science policy analyst at the Center for Food Safety and co-author of a peer-reviewed study on GE crop regulation.
"It's no surprise to us that U.S. regulators did not catch this.
None of our regulatory agencies require any long-term animal feeding trials before allowing genetically engineered crops on the market."
So folks, this is another example of big agriculture and big corporate interests lobbying the government allowing these kind of things to come to pass when I think the self-evident truth is that that is not right.
And that there's something potentially very dangerous about this and we need a lot longer to see the effects.
So if the litters of mice, second, third, and fourth generation showed increasing declining fertility, then just like the obesity epidemic in America in the last 50 years has caught up to 90% of the population,
the same thing is probably going to happen with GE foods as the offspring multiply the defects from generation to generation.
Another comment here was that male corn farm workers who regularly work with atrazine are found to have lower sperm counts, another great chemical to treat your GM corn with.
And this is a product made by Zentech. So atrazine is another broad spectrum herbicide that is used in these corn fields and again been very closely linked to lower sperm counts.
"And it's estrogenic."
And it's estrogenic, there you go. So another reason for estrogen to be taken cautiously.
"And if your corn is not organic, you can bet it's GMO."
Okay, so I think just to continue, I'd heard a mention earlier on, let's just let people know again, you'll listen to Ask Europe Doctor on KME.org, 91.1 FM.
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So Dr. Peat, I know that you talked about potassium nitrate being a, I believe it was another sperm reducer, sperm count reducer.
Yeah, there was an experiment giving it to full grown bulls and then they analyzed their testicles and found that immediately with a moderate dose, their testosterone production went down.
And then the sperm count went down and it stayed low. The testicles were permanently damaged after they stopped giving them the doses of it.
Do you know if this product in potassium nitrate, do you know if this is directly added to any foods or if this is a...
Well, nitrate is actually worse, more toxic because it's chemically closer to nitric oxide.
Oh my goodness. And it's all about the generation of nitric oxide from these nitrites, isn't it?
The nitrates and nitrites that form the nitrosamines and nitric oxide.
Yeah.
When I was a kid...
We have a caller, Dr. Peat. Let's take this caller first.
But save that thought about when you were a kid. I want to hear that.
You got to remember that. Okay, caller, you're on the air. Where are you from?
Hi, I'm from Pepperwood.
Okay. Hi. What's your question?
Well, actually, I really appreciate you guys having Dr. Peat on. I've always wondered, are multiple vitamins good?
Should we be taking them as we age? And even though we try and eat healthy, and number two, especially for women, are extra sources of calcium, like a calcium supplement?
Or should we just be eating rich, you know, calcium foods? I'll take my answer off the air. Thank you.
Thank you for your call.
Okay, Dr. Peat, give us your views on multivitamins and calcium.
There are situations where the multivitamins could be useful if you're really in a bad situation for getting good food.
But the trouble is that they aren't generally well formulated, and even the best formulations are made with somewhat contaminated chemicals.
About 40 years ago, I found that I was having migraine headaches every time I took certain vitamins, especially vitamin B2, ascorbic acid, and root, and were the most intense for me.
I found that essentially all of the people that I talked to with serious allergy problems were taking vitamin supplements, and that when they stopped the supplements, they recovered from their chronic allergy symptoms.
So I'm convinced that unless it's a very special situation, it's better to avoid the supplements and to choose foods for their high nutrient content.
In all reality, do you know what particular vitamins might be more implicated in deficiency than others in terms of what food they might want to gravitate towards to get these or use a supplement?
I always recommend eggs and liver as the easiest way to get both trace minerals and vitamins.
You can look at food charts and find things that are not necessarily as good, but you can put together a diet with a high content of certain vitamins.
Vitamin B2 is one that I've seen lots of serious deficiencies.
People with red nose, rosacea, nosebleeds, some mood problems, poor memory, and such, you can't use oxygen if you're deficient in vitamin B2.
Besides the fact that the synthetics are so allergenic for lots of people, if you take a very large amount, some of the pills have 50 or 100 milligrams in each tablet,
it can reach the level in your skin and your eyes where it sensitizes you to the sunlight.
What kind of dosage would you recommend for vitamin B2?
5 or 10 milligrams.
You mentioned calcium. I know you're a big proponent of milk, cheese, dairy, dairy products in general. Any other sources for a good supply of calcium?
I was wondering about products that specifically say they'll boost nitric oxide, things like Super Beets, for example.
Super Beets?
Like red beets?
That's a commercial product that claims to have a highly concentrated effect on your nitric oxide based on extracts from beets.
It's something that you don't want, though, so presumably you think that you need it?
No, I don't think. I was kind of wondering, based on what you said, that it seemed like it would be a bad thing directly.
It seems kind of odd to be proclaiming it so directly, I would think.
Well, that's the unfortunate part of the information that most people will receive.
There's a pretty big campaign here to promote nitric oxide as healthy.
I know the whole Viagra industry, which is pretty much based on nitric oxide as a means to get that vasodilation and engorgement that the pill is so famous for,
it actually can promote heart attack, cardiovascular accidents...
And atrophy of the testicles.
And atrophy of the testicles, there you go. So that's not what you want, folks.
Nitric oxide and Viagra are actually very bad news.
The people that produce the compound are not going to tell you that.
It's just going to feel good and it's going to come with a lot of cost.
Until it doesn't.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Okay, so if any other callers are listening and you'd like to ask questions about this topic or any other topics,
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So, Dr. Peat, are beets red, are red beets high in arginine or something?
Yeah, I think they are.
But maybe they're feeding them extra nitrates so they can claim that they're super beets.
Okay, there you go.
Okay, I think we do have another call coming in, but let's just see if this call is going to materialize into a caller
or if it's just someone asking a question offline.
I know the lights are going here, so do we have a caller on the air?
Yes, the first caller just wants to say, "Migraines can be taken care of with two hits of hash."
And we have another caller in a second.
Okay.
Well, that was what Dr. Peat was saying he had been prescribed a bag of cannabis leaves for.
Which didn't work.
Well, maybe that's because it wasn't hash.
Okay, so, caller, you're on the air, and where are you from?
Edmstone, in Brigham.
Say that again. I didn't hear that.
Humboldt.
Did you say Humboldt?
Yes.
Okay, yes. I think you got some feedback perhaps on the line.
So, I'm ready to ask a question.
Anyway, I just wanted to know if something is non-GMO project verified,
can they still use glyphosate and natrazine and other crap on there?
Or is it also kind of similar organic where they can't have additives like that?
No, if it's non-GMO, it doesn't mean to say the farmer doesn't use agricultural--
Chemicals.
--agrochemicals on it.
It's just the fact that if it is GE or GMO, you can be sure they're putting agrochemicals on it.
If it's not organic--
Not a guarantee of it being like chemical-free.
If it's not organic, you can almost surely guarantee that the possibility is high that agrochemicals are being used.
The only hopefully--
Well, that's ducks.
The only hopefully sure way you can be sure is to use a certified organic product,
buy certified organic vegetables and meat.
And according to the USDA, you are not allowed to use any of these chemicals
that we're talking about on certified organic products.
I know they're strict with us about what we use and can only use chicken manure,
but I don't know if that's just our certifying body.
Maybe other certifying bodies are more lenient.
No, I think it's USDA.
It's the United States Department of Agriculture.
So, yeah, the only way you can be really sure of getting good, safe food at this point in time
before it probably falls to some kind of control will be certified organic.
Okay, so non-GMO project verified is just kind of like a stepping stone on the way to really good food.
Yeah, it's on the way because it's non-GMO.
But what you've really got to make sure is that they're not using any agrochemicals on the product to grow it
and that they're actually producing a good quality, holistically oriented, you know, food stuff.
Glyphosate is a little spooky.
You definitely don't want to be put on glyphosate.
Thanks a lot. I'm glad for that answer. Thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.
All right, well, it's six minutes to eight, so if any callers would still like to call,
very welcome, 923-3911 in the area or 800 number, 800-KMUD-RAD, which is 1-800-568-3723.
So, Dr. Peat, you were going to tell us something about when you were a kid.
Oh, yeah, there was the veterans believed that they had been fed potassium nitrate in their food.
And I read old 17th, 18th century things that described it as a treatment for prisoners and soldiers to decrease their libido
so that they could attend a war, not be interested in romance.
And that was for hundreds of years.
That was a popular concept.
People seem to recognize that it actually lowered libido and the recent experiments with a bulls and such show that it does stop the production of testosterone.
But if you look on the Internet, all of the popular medical sites are saying that's a big myth.
The Army would never think of doing that.
Prison officials would never think of poisoning their prisoners or soldiers.
They forget that for hundreds of years, people were recognizing the effect.
And for it to be such a historically unknown fact that it suppresses libido, it's strange that everyone is so enthusiastic about denying that it has ever happened.
Yeah, sounds a little bit like the Nazi concentration camp experiments that were done, basically using people's human guinea pigs to conduct the research that supposedly has led us to great advancements in science.
Barbara Seaman, who was a great researcher on estrogen in one of her books, gave the story of the German experiments in the concentration camps using estrogen to control prisoners passive.
She was comparing the American medical practice of prescribing estrogen to practically all the women in the country.
Yeah, yeah. Well, it's let me see here. It's almost coming up for two minutes to the top of the hour.
So let me take this opportunity to thank you so much for giving your time like you do.
I know you're very busy and very involved with what you do.
So I appreciate that time.
I do want to ask you one more question.
So, Dr. Wheat, potassium nitrate, is that found in specific foods or is it just part of the meat preserving food additive?
Yeah, it's just for an additive.
Mainly in meats or is it in other foods?
Oh, well, the nitrates, I think, are used in some other foods. I think it's mainly for making meat red.
Okay.
For keeping it red, right.
It functions as a substitute for oxygen in the hemoglobin.
Hemoglobin.
Yeah.
So, is it making the meat red that's just in the counter, like packaged up? Do they have to list it as a food additive?
Yeah. Why does meat look so red on the meat counter in the supermarket?
Anyway, I know, listen, it's two minutes to, let's give people the information to get to you that's more important.
Thank you, Dr. Peat.
Thanks so much for your time.
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