WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000 Well, welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:09.520 From the third Friday of every month... Could you try a different mic actually? 00:00:09.520 --> 00:00:12.080 Okay, one minute. Let me just try this one here, number three. 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:17.080 Let's see what number three is doing tonight. How is this one going? That sounds better, doesn't it? Okay, good. 00:00:17.080 --> 00:00:23.120 Well, thank you for tuning in, those who have tuned in to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:28.160 As I was saying, every third Friday of the month we do a one hour... 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:32.640 Well, we do, my wife and I, but it's just myself and has been for a little while now. 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:40.160 Okay, so I do a radio show every third Friday of the month for one hour and it is a call-in. 00:00:40.160 --> 00:00:45.280 So from 7.30 until 8 o'clock we have the phone lines open with people asking questions related to the show. 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:48.160 And every month we do a different topic. 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:53.120 Sometimes it's a continuation of a topic that may take a month or two or even three to get through. 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:59.760 And every month, as has been the custom since about 2007 now, we're joined by Dr. Raymond Peat, 00:00:59.760 --> 00:01:08.720 who has very much been a mentor and a listening ear, as well as an excellent guide for things that 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:14.720 I thought were true once upon a time when I was at university studying herbal medicine, 00:01:14.720 --> 00:01:25.840 but which have just repeated doctrines and dogmas of professors and other professionals 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:31.840 who taught themselves by mainstream science in all of its splendor, 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:37.120 but with its very apparent mistakes and repeated mistakes. 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:44.560 So, like I said, every third Friday of the month, I'm very pleased to have Dr. Raymond Peat on the phone with us. 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.960 So let's just see if Dr. Peat is there with us. Are you there? 00:01:46.960 --> 00:01:47.520 Yes. 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:51.200 Okay. Well, thanks so much, as always, for giving your time every month like you do. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:52.480 I really appreciate it. 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:58.240 I wanted just for the sake of people that have tuned in or are just tuning in for the first time, 00:01:58.240 --> 00:02:03.040 who may have never heard you, if you would just give an outline of your academic and professional background 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.040 so people can hear where you're coming from. 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:17.040 My early education was in literature, painting, general humanities, including philosophy. 00:02:17.040 --> 00:02:26.240 And then after about 10 years, in 1968, I went to graduate school in biology, 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:36.480 intending to study nerve biology and finding that that was the most dogmatic of the biological studies. 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:44.720 I found the most empirical people in the department were working on reproductive physiology. 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:54.320 And so I did my PhD in basically reproductive endocrinology and physiology. 00:02:54.320 --> 00:03:02.560 1972 was when I got my PhD and I've been studying and writing and consulting since then. 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:15.200 Yeah. Okay, good. I want to just quickly go back to last month and wrapping up the discussion on the effects of progesterone 00:03:15.200 --> 00:03:21.360 and how the PROTECT and SYNAP studies are flawed and how that whole thing, 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.800 which showed in the paper that progesterone was not effective, 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:32.080 actually had some very bad designs in the trials and the flawed studies were quite apparent when you look to the science objectively. 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:34.640 And so we gave people information about that and where to go. 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:40.400 But I just wanted to say in the it's kind of shocked me a little bit because I don't often say these kind of things, 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:48.240 a little bit like their reversal on coconut oil being actually good for you now and the liquid oils may actually be harmful. 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:55.600 The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists actually gave a few guidelines. 00:03:55.600 --> 00:04:02.480 And I found that these are pretty stunning. Given the debate about sugar, they said that diet. 00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:08.880 And this is in relation to easing premenstrual syndrome. And this was in relation to estrogen and progesterone, 00:04:08.880 --> 00:04:14.000 mainly estrogen supposedly being the good the good hormone and progesterone being the bad. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.800 But we know it's the other way around. They said that keeping blood sugar levels up with more smaller, 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:25.520 frequent meals might be helpful. So I know you've been a big proponent of keeping blood sugar up with something, 00:04:25.520 --> 00:04:31.040 whether it's liquid milk or orange juice or some liquid food or in fact, 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.760 carbohydrate or sugar containing food every two hours. I thought that was pretty good. 00:04:35.760 --> 00:04:41.840 And they also mentioned calcium and magnesium, both found in yogurt and leafy vegetables, for example, 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:47.600 and that magnesium might alleviate mood swings and physical symptoms like bloating from water retention. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:54.080 So they're actually giving a thumbs up to sugar, magnesium and calcium, which is good. 00:04:54.080 --> 00:05:01.200 Before we move on to the subject of sleep and repair in this month's show, 00:05:01.200 --> 00:05:11.120 I wanted to go over what you might be able to describe in your terms as the benefits of positive thinking. 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:18.960 And also just wanted to mention for those people that have tuned in, the number to reach us is 707-923-3911. 00:05:18.960 --> 00:05:24.400 So from 730 until the end of the show, eight o'clock, that's the number to call with questions. 00:05:24.400 --> 00:05:31.920 So I wanted to explore the remodeling of reality, which is possible from exercising the conscious mind 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.800 through higher ideals, through positive affirmations. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:40.480 And that this remodeling also benefits the physical body in terms of cell repair like sleep. 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:44.880 And that's going to be one of the topics for a larger part of this show. 00:05:44.880 --> 00:05:48.400 Now, biblically, the prophet spoke to the people in terms that they could relate to, 00:05:48.400 --> 00:05:55.920 and they used agrarian concepts and analogies like sowing and reaping, harvest and famine, pestilence and abundance. 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:01.840 And now the mind really can be viewed as a garden also, and a good gardener tends his garden. 00:06:01.840 --> 00:06:08.960 So negative thoughts like doubt and feelings of inadequacy and fear are the weeds which spring up automatically in your garden, 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:17.120 sometimes outcompeting the very garden of prosperity with its fruits and flowers, which we all have access to, with a positive mind. 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:23.360 So universal quantum and spiritual laws govern our lives, and if you think any other, you're wrong. 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:30.960 The soil is your mind, the seed is the thought, the water is your action, and the sun is your feelings. 00:06:30.960 --> 00:06:35.280 Whatever you plant in your mind and water, the same will also have to grow. 00:06:35.280 --> 00:06:41.680 There are times or seasons, and you've heard phrases like "when the time is right" or "in due season", 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:48.400 for the descriptive spark which ignites the flame of action. So be careful what you plant and give yourself to. 00:06:48.400 --> 00:06:57.120 And positive affirmations and the cultivation of a beautiful garden of the mind benefit the organism in ways which science is just beginning to put into words, 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:05.760 as we are now ready to understand, and I've said many times that we're in the age of knowledge, and it is exponentially increasing. 00:07:05.760 --> 00:07:12.560 Quantum physics now explains the observer effect, as best demonstrated by the double slit experiment, 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:18.560 which shows that the very act of observing interacts with the observed, affecting the outcome, 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:25.440 and the same can be inferred that the mind and thoughts can and do affect conscious reality and physical health. 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:32.240 So, what comes to your mind, Dr. Peat, listening then to the subject of positive affirmation, and that your mind is a garden? 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:33.760 Do you have any thoughts on that? 00:07:33.760 --> 00:07:43.840 In between working in literature and linguistics, and going back to school to study biology, 00:07:43.840 --> 00:07:54.480 I had an experimental college, Blake College, and my theory there was that there are deliberate attempts 00:07:54.480 --> 00:08:03.920 to plant bad seeds in our garden. And my approach to education was that if you create the right environment, 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:15.120 people can uproot those planted bad seeds and create themselves a fresh, new way of looking at the world. 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:25.760 And we found that people who had thought they were inferior students in just four, five, or six months, 00:08:25.760 --> 00:08:34.000 in that environment where they were expected to be fully functioning, became fully functioning, 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:44.880 and achieved more in five or six months than the average American college graduate achieves in the whole four years. 00:08:44.880 --> 00:08:50.160 This is through a kind of more of a liberal, for the sake of the word being liberal, 00:08:50.160 --> 00:09:00.240 philosophies to the subject of understanding and learning, rather than just rote memory and recapitulation of facts. 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:10.160 Yeah, because lots of bad intentions are being implanted along with the educational indoctrination that most people are getting. 00:09:10.160 --> 00:09:18.640 Yeah, I mean, you've had complete access to that indoctrination in your own studies in terms of what the professors believed 00:09:18.640 --> 00:09:29.840 and what attitudes they had towards students that were challenging that with some kind of new science perspective, 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:36.160 which actually wasn't new, which was actually probably 80 or 100 years old, but had been supplanted, if you like, 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:43.920 by the new dogma, especially in genetics and this genetic determinism, the whole theory of it. 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:49.440 Yeah, which was powered largely by a political ideology. 00:09:49.440 --> 00:10:03.120 Malthusianism and genetic determinism were very consciously political ideas which were then accepted into science, supposedly, 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:09.680 because the funding came from the people with that political orientation. 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:13.200 It's not a long stretch, but what do you think about faith healing? 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:18.000 Just to put it out there, I haven't asked you, I haven't prepped you with these questions, but I just want... 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.640 Well, that's exactly analogous to what we were doing at Blake College, 00:10:22.640 --> 00:10:28.160 which was healing people from the cultural disease that had been given. 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:39.920 And there's a fairly recent book, last 20 years, I think, it was published by Larry Dossie called, I think, 00:10:39.920 --> 00:10:43.920 "Words that Heal" or "Healing Words," something like that. 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:51.840 And an older book published in Russian in 1930 and then in English in 1959, 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:58.880 it's called "Words as a Physiological and Therapeutic Factors," 00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:03.040 the word as a way to handle ideas and thoughts. 00:11:03.040 --> 00:11:13.360 In both of these cases, they're treating words or thoughts as healing physiological factors. 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:20.640 So it's exactly putting in scientific terms that idea of faith healing. 00:11:20.640 --> 00:11:29.760 Yeah, I mean, do you think that the concept of, because I've always said, and I've long believed it is true, 00:11:29.760 --> 00:11:35.120 fortunately or unfortunately for some or even myself, but in terms of medicine, 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:40.560 I often find the word diagnosis is almost a kiss of death for some people. 00:11:40.560 --> 00:11:47.440 When you get a diagnosis for something and the doctors or the scientists want to put it in terms that 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.440 will help you come to terms with what it is that they're diagnosing you with, 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:57.040 I find that when people don't actually, because I have quite a lot of contact with people who, 00:11:57.040 --> 00:12:02.000 as you can imagine, and obviously from your background, come from an alternative background, 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:07.600 and they're not sold on mainstream medicine, they're not sold on mainstream science, 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:14.720 but they're very open-minded and able to understand concepts which certainly are based in science 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:19.760 and which maybe they haven't really heard of too much of, but it's there when they go searching for it. 00:12:19.760 --> 00:12:27.760 These people that I consult with that maybe haven't had a diagnosis that they will tell me in terms of symptoms 00:12:27.760 --> 00:12:36.480 and/or other physical facts point me in a direction where, although I'm not saying it as a diagnosis, 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:43.840 because that's not what I do, it's in terms of just generally counselling with people and recommending changes that will be positive. 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:50.560 Those people that come with a diagnosis, I think sometimes a diagnosis is a very roadblock to their improvement, 00:12:50.560 --> 00:12:58.720 and when they haven't come with a diagnosis, but I'm fairly sure what a diagnosis would be if they were in front of a traditional doctor, 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:04.800 they make some pretty quick progress through change. 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:14.720 Partly because I had the experience of my father having been diagnosed as diabetic, and he had acquaintances 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:23.040 who were dependent on injecting insulin every day, and he didn't like that idea, so he wasted away to, 00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:29.120 I think it was less than 100 pounds before searching in libraries. 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:38.480 They found old books that described using brewer's yeast, and for a few weeks he lived on pure brewer's yeast 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:51.200 and completely overcame the conversion of food to glucose in the urine, and put on weight and lived 40 years, 45 years more. 00:13:51.200 --> 00:14:04.000 That caused me to ask people how their diabetes was diagnosed, and over the years that I've been doing that, 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:15.120 40 or 50 years, I've only found two or three people who actually had a sane diagnosis in terms of what was known at the time. 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:25.520 For example, in the 1940s it was known that excessive cortisol would create all the symptoms of diabetes, 00:14:25.520 --> 00:14:32.080 wasting away of the muscles and other tissues, turning it into glucose. 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:51.280 As I inquired, I found that the practical approach to diabetes was simply to see if they had high blood sugar, 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:59.280 maybe even sugar in the urine, and then prescribe the insulin or one of the other treatments to lower the blood sugar. 00:14:59.280 --> 00:15:10.480 But I don't recall ever running into someone who's cortisol and prolactin and parathyroid hormone and all of the relative things, 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:18.160 growth hormone and so on, whether those were even considered at all in the diagnosis. 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:25.120 So as a separate subject, perhaps I wasn't going to go in this direction, but we don't have to go there for long, 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:34.960 but do you definitively see diabetes as an example here of pancreatic islet cell destruction per se? 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:42.320 You probably see the destruction in terms of a different process, or do you define it like that even? 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:47.280 Yeah, it becomes a side effect of whatever else is killing you. 00:15:47.280 --> 00:15:59.920 The stress, which might be malnutrition or emotional stress, overwork, many things can cause the high cortisol, 00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:08.720 which then damages the beta cells and mobilizing the fats from storage during stress. 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:19.760 A lack of sleep, for example, creates a diabetic condition and chronic stress, including poor sleep quality, 00:16:19.760 --> 00:16:24.720 leads to the hormonal situation, which damages the pancreas. 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:36.560 And the fatty acids, when you are treating it improperly, you keep exposing the pancreas to these toxic fatty acids. 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:46.720 It turns out that glucose, when it's predominant in the blood, causes regeneration from stem cells, 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:52.560 regeneration and differentiation of new beta cells. 00:16:52.560 --> 00:17:02.960 But when you're under stress and improperly treated, your free fatty acids and cortisol come in and kill the new cells. 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:09.920 Let's hold it there for a moment, because I think when I get into your sleep and aging newsletter, 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:14.560 I think there's reference and relevance to the question of diabetes in there. 00:17:14.560 --> 00:17:19.280 So for those people who've just tuned in or just listening to the show now, from 7.30 to 8pm, 00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:23.680 we'll open the phone lines up to question Dr. Peat, either about this month's subject, 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.880 or it's going to be the sleep and aging, and/or the opening topic of Positive Thinking. 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:33.520 The number to reach us is 707-923-3911. 00:17:33.520 --> 00:17:36.080 Okay, so Dr. Peat, sleep and aging then. 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:40.880 So concerning sleep and the varying lengths one species needs compared to another, 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:45.760 do you see sleep more necessary for brain repair or restructuring and energy renewal, 00:17:45.760 --> 00:17:49.120 or for tissue repair throughout the body, or all of it? 00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:54.480 And then what do you suggest is a minimum number of hours for a sleeping adult? 00:17:54.480 --> 00:18:02.480 The rest of your body can't repair itself unless it has a brain in good working order. 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:07.920 The most sensitive thing to the stress is the brain itself. 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:16.080 When the brain can't repair itself and impose the resting state on the rest of the organism, 00:18:16.080 --> 00:18:20.960 then you get things like the chronic excess of free fatty acids and cortisol, 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:27.440 which destroy not only the pancreas, but all of the other organs to different degrees. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.480 So these stress hormones directly affect sleep? 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:40.640 Yeah, when the blood sugar isn't able to produce the carbon dioxide that it should, 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:46.640 it's wasted, becomes a lactic acid rather than carbon dioxide, 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:56.400 raises the pH of the cell interior, creates a catabolic excited state 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:04.640 in which the brain cells ultimately end up dying or being blocked so that they can't act, 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:06.640 even if they stay alive. 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:13.840 And in reaction to the falling oxidation of glucose, 00:19:13.840 --> 00:19:20.800 you get the rise of adrenaline, which tries to activate cells. 00:19:20.800 --> 00:19:26.480 It provides more glucose if you have that in storage, 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.440 and that can remedy the situation. 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.760 That's why it's there. 00:19:31.760 --> 00:19:37.040 The adrenaline should bring up the glucose and stop the stress reaction. 00:19:37.040 --> 00:19:40.240 But if you don't have enough stored glucose, 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:45.200 then you resort to the cortisol level of stress adaptation. 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:50.800 The cortisol provides the glucose by breaking down your muscle cells 00:19:50.800 --> 00:19:56.960 and thymus skin cells, turning it into glucose. 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:02.800 And if that glucose doesn't solve the problem, 00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:07.840 then you get a chronic recurring stress, 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:11.600 low blood sugar, increased adrenaline, 00:20:11.600 --> 00:20:16.800 increased cortisol and whole breakdown process. 00:20:16.800 --> 00:20:26.800 Okay. So I think getting on to the subject of how science and scientists view the brain 00:20:26.800 --> 00:20:32.400 and in terms of its overarching control of the body and homeostasis, 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.760 there seems to be kind of two trains of thought 00:20:35.760 --> 00:20:40.080 where they have what they call "the cognitive scientist" 00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:42.560 thinking of the brain as a computer, 00:20:42.560 --> 00:20:47.280 and then other more open-minded scientists 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:51.600 looking at the brain as a kind of cybernetic control system 00:20:51.600 --> 00:20:56.000 with a kind of a life, obviously it's alive, 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:00.240 but a kind of life of its own in terms of being an autonomous functioning unit 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.560 rather than an on-off switch. 00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:10.000 Norbert Wiener, who invented cybernetics in the English-speaking world, 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.800 he, I would consider, 00:21:14.800 --> 00:21:23.200 probably the best information theorist in terms of the brain and how it works 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:30.880 as a control mechanism integrated intimately with the metabolism of the body. 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:37.280 So it's a metabolic control system as well as an interpreter 00:21:37.280 --> 00:21:42.640 of how the body relates to its ecosystem. 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:46.560 Relative to Norbert Wiener's view of the organism, 00:21:46.560 --> 00:21:50.960 I think you could consider the average cognitive scientist 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:56.960 as somewhat autistic or abstracted out of reality. 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.640 Okay, moving on to the subject of energy 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:09.120 and what I understand now through talking to you and working with others, 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:13.200 in terms of what you've always mentioned as the Achilles tendon reflex 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:18.320 being a predominant indicator of hypothyroidism 00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:24.480 because the energy state of the cell in a healthy cell 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:30.640 ultimately is charged, electrically charged, positively rested and ready 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.280 to begin an action potential and that in the tendon reflex 00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:40.320 when there's a slow return to the resting state 00:22:40.320 --> 00:22:43.760 that shows that the cell has been overstimulated 00:22:43.760 --> 00:22:48.400 and just like in sleep, if we don't get enough sleep 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.840 we are essentially too excited in terms of people that are insomniacs, 00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:57.360 for example, too excited to be able to get that 00:22:57.360 --> 00:23:01.600 relaxation so that we have that energy in the morning when we get up like we do 00:23:01.600 --> 00:23:05.280 when we're healthy and strong and we get lots of sugar in our diet and our 00:23:05.280 --> 00:23:08.400 thyroids are good and vitamin D and everything else and calcium 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:14.320 so that we're charged and ready to go. So the ability to relax and to accumulate 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:17.360 energy and the substance of differentiation then, 00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:22.000 this is a predominantly oxidative high energy 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:29.200 production system. And as a third 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:36.000 dimension of this, comparing the brain to the cramping calf muscle in the 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:41.440 Achilles reflex test, if you think of the cancer cell 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:48.160 as an energy deprived, overexcited cell, it has the exact situation 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:55.200 of the fatigued or are seizing brain cells or the cramping 00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:01.440 muscle cells. Deficiency of sugar or oxygen will cause cramping in the 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:06.240 muscles, insomnia or seizure in the brain and 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:10.240 compulsive growth and diffusion in the cancer cell. 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:13.920 And so this excitotoxicity, 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:18.720 the term for this then, it would refer very well to cancer cells. They're 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.360 just completely excited and unable to 00:24:23.360 --> 00:24:28.480 relax ultimately. Apart from apoptosis and the regular cell death 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:33.520 mechanisms by which normal cells or the body maintains its normalcy rather 00:24:33.520 --> 00:24:37.680 than growing out of control or out of the bounds of what's 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.760 needed of it. Some doctors have mentioned that you could diagnose 00:24:41.760 --> 00:24:47.840 cancerous lymph nodes in the armpit in relation to breast cancer just by 00:24:47.840 --> 00:24:51.920 touching them without needing to do a biopsy because 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.240 it turns out that cancer cells are hardened the same way 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.240 a cramped muscle is hardened. Just by the touch 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.840 of a cancer cell, it shouldn't be hard. It should be 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:10.320 relaxed and full of energy, ready to work but it's in the cramped working state. 00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:14.480 Right, interesting. Okay, so this is when they describe these things. 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.480 Okay, well here's the thing. They describe soft tumors and hard tumors. 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.360 Don't they have a different, the doctors as it is, you know, 00:25:21.360 --> 00:25:24.000 don't have a differentiation for these kind of tumors? 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:30.720 Well, the soft tumor is harder than that tissue is normally. Right, right. 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.920 Okay, so the hard tumors are just at the stage beyond that. 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.600 Okay, all right, well it's coming up to 7.30 now so if people want to call in 00:25:37.600 --> 00:25:42.400 about this month's topic, sleep and aging and/or the positive 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.920 thoughts, affirmations and how that controls our reality 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.360 in terms of the double slit experiment and the 00:25:49.360 --> 00:25:55.280 actual evidence of an observer effect changing the state of the observed and 00:25:55.280 --> 00:25:58.960 the whole quantum physics thing. I know it's a pretty big subject but I 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:03.120 think it's totally open to debate in terms of 00:26:03.120 --> 00:26:08.720 supporting its tenants. The number is 707-923-3911. 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.320 I do see the lights flashing so I think we do have our first caller. Caller, 00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:15.520 you're on the air. What's your question and where are you from? 00:26:15.520 --> 00:26:23.360 Yeah, I'm from Brooklyn and the question is right on topic. About a month ago, 00:26:23.360 --> 00:26:30.400 out of the blue, I developed a rash on my neck inside of my 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.520 forearms and in my underarms. It's just red. It's not, it's just 00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:37.920 very red and bumpy so it feels like there's a little bit of fibrosis. 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.920 Never had this before. Other than that, I have no issues. 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:49.600 You know, 60-ish and at night it wakes me up or seems to 00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:54.800 be correlated with waking up between one and two, literally only 00:26:54.800 --> 00:26:57.120 sleeping like two and a half hours, three hours. 00:26:57.120 --> 00:27:01.120 Then I'm up for several hours and I go back to sleep. So the comment about sleep 00:27:01.120 --> 00:27:06.160 and aging and the comment about sort of diagnosis 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.400 sort of is brought together here with this issue because I did go to a 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.360 dermatologist and they said, "Oh, you have this rash." 00:27:13.360 --> 00:27:18.240 And they gave me a product called Triamcinolone 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.960 acetinide cream which has precautions of 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.800 allegedly reversible HPA axis suppression, 00:27:26.800 --> 00:27:30.240 manifestations of Cushing's syndrome, hyperglycemia 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:37.280 and glucosuria, all of which apparently are reversible. So I didn't 00:27:37.280 --> 00:27:41.200 fill it but it's been 30 days. I've tried a bunch of different things, 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.960 kind of like your father did with the brewer's yeast and the thing is still 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:50.720 there. So I was just wondering for what would say an otherwise, you know, 00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:55.440 repeat type diet which has been very positive with eyesight, 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.640 you know, muscle strength, no pain in the joints, 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:02.880 all that's good but this rash comes out of nowhere and it's literally going on a 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:08.240 month now. So it's becoming chronic which has elevated my concern. So 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.240 in summary, I didn't take the antibiotic they provided 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.520 and I'm not taking anything other than putting 00:28:15.520 --> 00:28:19.600 you know some aloe vera on it. Somebody recommended something called rose hip oil 00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:26.880 which does have, you know, maybe some PUFA related additives 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:31.120 and something called, you know, black cumin seed oil which also has 00:28:31.120 --> 00:28:36.080 omega-6s in it, I mean 50 percent, but these are things I've been trying and I 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.800 was just wondering whether you have any commentary on both the 00:28:38.800 --> 00:28:43.120 sleep issue and, you know, what one might do to get rid of the stress 00:28:43.120 --> 00:28:46.640 associated with this skin rash. Yeah, okay, well I know that quickly the 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.760 rose hip oil was probably a vitamin c component of that although you mentioned 00:28:49.760 --> 00:28:52.560 the oil was probably a polyunsaturated, but Dr. Peat, 00:28:52.560 --> 00:28:57.520 what do you have to say about the rash that he's just described? 00:28:57.520 --> 00:29:02.960 The first thing I would do or that I do whenever I have a symptom like that is 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:09.040 to put lots of sodium chloride, 00:29:09.040 --> 00:29:12.480 get it for ice cream freezers so you can put 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.440 a couple of pounds in a bathtub and about a pound of baking soda 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:24.240 and make a slightly hyperosmotic solution and soak in it for a while and 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:32.240 that usually takes care of minor skin problems, but some people 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:39.440 make an application of baking soda and sodium chloride just as a soothing 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.920 thing, but it has much of the effect that a drug like 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:48.240 triamcinolone or glucocorticoids in general, 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:55.600 which doctors love because they'll make everything feel better even if it's 00:29:55.600 --> 00:30:00.400 making you sick in the long run. Yeah, exactly, it was definitely a band-aid 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.480 approach, kind of what Andrew was saying earlier. 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.480 So you're saying a pound of sodium chloride, that's not salt though, you got 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.480 to say it's just any clean salt and 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:16.240 standard baking soda make a fairly salty bath and soak in it for 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.920 half an hour or more. Okay, so it's a pound of 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.160 baking soda and a pound of sodium chloride? 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.240 Something like that, it doesn't have to be exact, but 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:31.120 when people experiment with the solutions it can be 00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:34.800 up to two or three times as concentrated as sea water 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:38.080 and the average sea water is about twice as concentrated 00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:44.480 as our body fluids for sodium. How about like that dry CO2 you talked 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:49.040 about in the past, is that worth doing too? The CO2? 00:30:49.040 --> 00:30:54.000 The dry CO2 bath, is that? Well, the baking soda has that function 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.000 because the sodium holds the bicarbonate in 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.240 solution so it doesn't bubble out of the warm 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.640 water, but your body has such a high affinity 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.960 for carbon dioxide that it will pull, even the bicarbonate will be 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.320 pulled into your body against the gradient, 00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:17.840 which the body is already pretty concentrated with 00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:25.520 with CO2, but the bicarbonate will help to increase that and 00:31:25.520 --> 00:31:31.120 the warm water doesn't hold much gaseous carbon dioxide, but 00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:36.160 it's a healing component in mineral water, which is carbonated, 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:41.120 but it's a very low concentration compared to what you can get from the 00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:47.360 baking soda and a pure CO2 dry bath 00:31:47.360 --> 00:31:52.880 instantly starts raising your body's carbon dioxide with the anti-inflammatory 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.760 effect. There's a good article published in a 00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:02.400 US, I think Michigan State Medical Journal, 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:08.960 1905 on the uses of a carbon dioxide 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:15.440 gas bath. Is that good to do as a separate matter, like for 30 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.640 minutes? I mean, I did it once and it was cold 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:22.480 initially, but then it sort of makes your skin hot, which is kind of odd. 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.560 Yeah, because it relaxes the blood vessels and 00:32:26.560 --> 00:32:31.440 when you notice your skin getting pink, that means you're fairly well 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.920 saturated with it. Got it. So does it matter whether you do 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.880 it 10 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour? Does it matter? Or is it 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.680 better to do it like maybe, given that I have a chronic 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.440 condition, like a few times every day or a couple times a day until 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.960 this goes away? Yeah, I think it's fine to do it an hour 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.080 or more every day if you're doing something like 00:32:54.080 --> 00:32:59.600 strengthening your bones. Recent Japanese studies 00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:05.600 have tried applying it externally to the skin for squamous 00:33:05.600 --> 00:33:10.160 cancer of the mouth and getting good results. 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.800 Right, right. Okay, that's great. And the sleep thing about getting up 00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:18.560 between, so I get up and then like I have a carrot salad or something 00:33:18.560 --> 00:33:22.800 and a glass of milk and then I use the red lamp and I can get back to sleep, but 00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:25.760 that's a lot of work. I mean, it sounds like I ought to, you know, to 00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:29.760 your point about degeneration of the brain, etc. I mean, my 00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:35.280 brain seems okay right now, but you know, getting a straight 00:33:35.280 --> 00:33:40.720 shot of six hours, you know, with three one and a half hour cycles, maybe a 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.080 little bit of dreaming would be a much better thing than 00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:47.520 waking up at, you know, sleeping three and a half hours, 00:33:47.520 --> 00:33:50.720 waking up for two hours, then sleeping another three and a half 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.080 hours to get seven or four hours to get seven and a half hours of sleep. 00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:59.600 I think the main thing that causes that age-related 00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:06.000 interrupted sleep is that things like decreased thyroid 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.240 function slow your digestive processes and as 00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:14.880 your blood sugar falls in darkness and when you're 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.440 sleeping, the falling blood sugar lets you 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:27.440 experience a toxic reaction to the whatever is in your intestine and the 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.000 irritation, inflammation, and absorption of endotoxin and 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:38.000 surges of serotonin from the intestine, those get into the bloodstream, 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.520 finish off your stored glycogen and wake you up with a stress reaction. 00:34:43.520 --> 00:34:51.280 And so trying to have the calmest, cleanest intestine possible 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.600 at bedtime. Does that mean having a carrot salad before bed or something? 00:34:55.600 --> 00:35:00.480 Because it doesn't seem like I have a stomachache or any problems or anything. 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.480 I mean, maybe, is it always the case that it has to be the intestine? 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.680 You know, I mean, I don't know, I guess. What do you do to prevent this? 00:35:09.680 --> 00:35:15.520 Having a carrot salad or a good bowl of cooked mushrooms or some 00:35:15.520 --> 00:35:21.520 slightly antiseptic fiber like that in the early afternoon 00:35:21.520 --> 00:35:28.080 and then having a fairly low protein, high carbohydrate supper right before 00:35:28.080 --> 00:35:33.440 bed like ice cream or a chicken broth 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:39.200 that's very salty. A combination of salt and sugar right at bedtime 00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:43.360 helps to relax the intestine for a longer period. 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.560 Okay, we do have another caller on the line. I appreciate 00:35:46.560 --> 00:35:49.680 you calling in and I just want to make sure we give time to other people 00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:52.880 that are lined up. For those who are listening, the number here is 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.840 707-923-3911 with Dr. Peat on the line. 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.800 So let's take this next call. Caller, you're on the air. Where are you from? 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.520 What's your question? Hello, am I on the air? Yeah, where are you 00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:10.240 from and what's your question? I'm from Arcata, California. Okay. 00:36:10.240 --> 00:36:14.080 I have a question about the Brewer's Beast and the diabetes 00:36:14.080 --> 00:36:19.200 and I'll take an answer off the air but I'm just wondering, I have to give myself 00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:24.640 an insulin injection every day. I'm very attracted to the idea of not 00:36:24.640 --> 00:36:28.640 having to do that but how might one, well, 00:36:28.640 --> 00:36:35.600 A, why does Brewer's yeast work and did Dr. Peat's father just 00:36:35.600 --> 00:36:39.520 eat nothing but Brewer's yeast? How might one 00:36:39.520 --> 00:36:44.000 transition from a possibly healing Brewer's yeast diet 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:50.880 and get off insulin or, anyway, that's my question. Just some 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.280 elaboration on diabetes and Brewer's yeast. Thank you. 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.960 Okay, thank you. I think one of the functions of Brewer's yeast 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:05.680 is the high niacin. Okay, you need to turn your, 00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:10.320 hang up the phone, I think so. Okay, go ahead, Dr. Peat. 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.320 The high niacin content of the Brewer's yeast 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.680 is a very effective thing for lowering the free fatty acids 00:37:19.680 --> 00:37:24.400 and the free fatty acids are the main things killing the beta cells 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:28.400 and there are a couple of articles on glucose 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:35.040 and diabetes on my website that describe the results of 00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:41.760 a couple doctors in the late 19th century and the high sugar diet but 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:48.880 niacin and sugar are two things that hold down the liberation of the toxic 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:54.480 free fatty acids and anything you can do to 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.280 interfere with those free fatty acids which are toxic to the 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:03.680 pancreas will help it heal. Okay, good. All right, let's hold it 00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:07.120 there. Okay, so unless there's no one else at 00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:09.760 the moment, let's just check in with the engineer. 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.440 Okay, good. All right, so actually I had a question, Michael from 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.520 Woodway calling. Go ahead. Can you talk a little about water and the best water and 00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:20.560 about how much water and the importance of water in the diet? 00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:23.520 Dr. Peat doesn't really believe in drinking water but let's ask Dr. Peat 00:38:23.520 --> 00:38:28.640 what his opinion is about water. Yeah, go ahead. If you're really thirsty, 00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:33.440 water is what you need but if you're drinking milk 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.000 and orange juice to get your calories and protein and calcium and 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:44.960 so on, you usually don't need any plain water because the amount of water 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.440 you're taking in to get those nutrients is usually on 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.920 the order of a gallon or so. Okay, there you go. Good. All right, 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.800 well the lights have started flashing in the studio again so the engineer's 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.160 answering the call. Let's see if we have another caller here. 00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:04.000 No, okay, they hang up. All right, so Dr. Peat, I just wanted to 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:10.560 move on in terms of the sleep and aging article that you've mentioned here that 00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:13.280 the concentration of cortisol found in the blood 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:18.720 started to increase when the light was turned off and that this darkness is a 00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:23.280 stimulus for cortisol production and now this is whether the person was asleep or 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.480 not. So just the pure presence of darkness, obviously this is 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.520 why the long winter nights are probably very damaging for most people because 00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:33.440 they just don't get enough exposure to sunlight and showing that 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.280 the stress of darkness creates an 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.280 inefficient catabolic state where you start breaking yourself down 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:47.760 and this is mainly from cortisol again in order to generate glucose and that 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.680 sleep to some extent reduces the stress but 00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:55.440 you mentioned and this is again part of red light 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.280 therapy and red light treatment that people use just during the daytime for 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.480 things like skin conditions as you mentioned that 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.680 first caller from Brooklyn perhaps the red light there but that 00:40:07.680 --> 00:40:14.240 red light itself is a electron quenching wavelength of light 00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:19.680 that the stress of darkness you know we sleep every night and now 00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:26.480 this month about the article on stress sorry sleep and aging the stress of 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.640 darkness is itself very damaging and 00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:33.920 you mentioned here where cortisol rises generating 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:38.000 free fatty acids and all those stress hormones that are very harmful to us 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.360 but yet the sleep is so necessary and deep sleep especially so necessary for 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:48.880 tissue repair and you know cell healing that 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.320 it's a kind of double-edged sword you know you get 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.280 exposed to darkness whether you're sleeping or not but especially when 00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.000 you're asleep and your cortisol starts to rise but 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:05.280 that red light and exposure a pre-bedtime exposure to red light can 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.840 mitigate a lot of this yeah the Chinese study found that it 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.400 not only improved the depth of the sleep but it improved the 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.920 athletic performance the next day after the 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.680 good sleep following the red light treatment 00:41:21.680 --> 00:41:29.760 about 40 years ago someone experimented with putting living tissue 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:36.480 for example a seed was a very self-contained easy to study material 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:44.080 they found that if it was exposed to ultraviolet light or sunlight 00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:48.160 and then you put it in an electron spin resonance 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:55.600 machine or paramagnetic resonance device to measure free radicals or 00:41:55.600 --> 00:42:00.880 free electrons but after the ultraviolet light exposure 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.880 it kept in the machine it would show free radicals or free electrons for 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:12.080 hours and hours without any new exposure but if they 00:42:12.080 --> 00:42:15.840 right after putting it in the machine if they shined red light on it 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.400 it went quiet the red light just knocked out the free radicals 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:27.280 immediately and experiments with gamma rays on frogs showed the same thing 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.600 a dose of gamma rays that would kill the frogs 00:42:31.600 --> 00:42:35.680 if it was followed immediately by red light exposure 00:42:35.680 --> 00:42:43.680 it quenched the excited electrons and the frogs didn't die 00:42:43.680 --> 00:42:47.520 in the past we've talked about we've done a show on red light and 00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:50.720 light in general in terms of these anti-inflammatory effects 00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:55.120 what kind of distance under the skin do you think red light will penetrate 00:42:55.120 --> 00:43:01.520 the deepest core of the body? yeah you know when someone is has their 00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:05.360 back to the sun how red their ears look or if you put a 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.680 flashlight under your hand in the dark you see the red light coming right 00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:14.960 through your your hand one night i let my eyes get adapted 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.240 by sleeping until about four in the morning 00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:25.600 and then put a red light behind my thigh and i could my whole thigh 00:43:25.600 --> 00:43:31.520 was illuminated a bright red color except the bone left a 00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:37.600 shadow like an x-ray. okay all right so i wanted to carry on 00:43:37.600 --> 00:43:42.960 here with just another reference to the permanently contracted 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:49.200 unable to relax state of cells and this relationship to stress 00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:54.800 and in the the elderly okay so most and again i'm fortunate you know i'm not 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.920 i don't know about you i think you probably have very good sleep too but 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:02.160 i've never had a problem sleeping and i sleep oh i can sleep for 10 hours for 00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:05.680 sure and i wake up feeling just fine and 00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:09.440 don't get any kind of insomnia if i wake up at all in the night i'm back to sleep 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:14.560 again in about 30 seconds and so with old people though right as 00:44:14.560 --> 00:44:18.240 people get older they talk about people needing less sleep and i think this is a 00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:22.160 a bit of a misnomer i don't think people need less sleep i think people need the 00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:25.680 same amount of sleep and when they don't get it they get less relaxation 00:44:25.680 --> 00:44:29.200 so they talk about the elderly and that their hearts 00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:32.880 failing and the muscle being another typical muscle 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.320 i mean although cardiac and skeletal muscle do have physiological differences 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.800 they're still muscles and when the cardiac muscle can't relax 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:44.720 just like a skeletal muscle can't relax when it's over excited and it 00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:49.840 the thyroid hormone is not adequate enough to allow relaxation fully 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:54.080 they basically get these heart failure type pictures 00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:58.720 scenarios coming on as part of their old age and it's not at all related to their 00:44:58.720 --> 00:45:02.800 old age it's because they just don't don't have enough relaxation going on 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:10.800 so how about this in terms of the elderly and the inability to 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:16.400 relax or their insomnia and it's related to their cardiac cycle 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.480 i think it's exactly the same thing the 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.920 heart doesn't beat strongly because it doesn't relax 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:30.880 fully the the diastolic relaxation just isn't there 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.240 as the energy production decreases and the same thing with the brain the 00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:40.080 relaxation is impaired the same way as the heart 00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:44.240 relaxation all right so now you're getting on to 00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:47.920 that uh revisiting rather the uh the red light 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:51.520 thing that um you've you stated in your newsletter here that 00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:54.960 if you're exposed to it at the beginning of the night 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.640 it can not only improve your sleep but also 00:45:58.640 --> 00:46:02.320 the next day's performance and this was a japanese 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.920 our paper that was written in 2012 so they have objectively looked at the 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.120 performance of a group of people that they were studying who actually 00:46:11.120 --> 00:46:15.440 physically performed better the next day directly proportional to their 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:22.960 red light exposure the night before yes wow yeah incredible okay 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:26.000 so the number here if anyone's listening and they want to question dr 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:32.800 pete uh is 707 923 3911 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.680 so i had a question that was posed by a person i think they wrote this 00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:42.960 wrote this question in and i wonder actually if it may have got 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.240 asked last month but let me ask you again um 00:46:46.240 --> 00:46:51.040 somebody who was uh wondering about using pregnenolone 00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:54.960 and i think because of bad publicity or whatever else you know 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.720 that they've been worried about progesterone and pregnenolone they've 00:46:58.720 --> 00:47:02.880 kind of put them in the same basket um they've read about this subject 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:09.120 called pregnenolone steel where people with worn out adrenals 00:47:09.120 --> 00:47:14.000 apparently uh get this issue where pregnenolone is 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:18.160 stolen and converted into cortisol is that even possible 00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:23.280 oh whenever you are making cortisol you're making it from 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:31.360 a pregnenolone ultimately and uh it you should have a huge 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:38.560 excess of pregnenolone and progesterone and only make small amounts of 00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:41.760 the terminal hormones such as cortisol and 00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:49.600 estrogen as needed but the bulk of the steroids produced 00:47:49.600 --> 00:47:53.440 should be heavily in favor of pregnenolone and progesterone because 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.040 those are stabilizing materials i don't even 00:47:57.040 --> 00:48:04.080 consider those to be hormones the only direct action that 00:48:04.080 --> 00:48:08.480 has been identified for pregnenolone is that it 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:16.240 helps tissues give up excess water and it allows the fascia 00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:22.960 the connective tissue to regain its normal tone and so it can 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:26.160 when you reach the right level it can make wrinkles in your 00:48:26.160 --> 00:48:31.760 your saggy neck skin disappear okay all right uh well let's take this 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.240 next caller uh caller you're on the air where you're 00:48:34.240 --> 00:48:37.840 from what's your question i'm up on wilder ridge i wanted to know 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.680 about the red light is it like a light bulb a lamp that you 00:48:41.680 --> 00:48:46.000 have on in your bedroom or yeah i wanted you to elaborate on the 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.800 red light well the sunlight or any incandescent 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.440 light bulb has a spectrum the sunlight is the 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.040 middle of the sun spectrum is yellow the middle of 00:48:59.040 --> 00:49:06.480 an incandescent light bulb spectrum is orange and you get the full red light 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:11.200 benefit either from sunlight or or incandescent light bulbs you don't 00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:15.040 have to get rid of it except for convenience you 00:49:15.040 --> 00:49:20.640 don't want a brilliant shiny room around you if you're trying 00:49:20.640 --> 00:49:25.200 to relax and so the dim quality of bright red 00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:30.080 light it isn't necessarily any brighter than 00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:36.240 a 200 watt incandescent bulb would be but 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:39.920 you don't need the the blue and green part of the spectrum 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.680 for the therapeutic effect those bulbs that are supposed to be like daylight 00:49:45.680 --> 00:49:51.920 which are they too bright um no if you don't need the bright white 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:56.880 light during the daytime i have a 250 watt 00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:01.760 reflector bulb called an infrared bulb but it it looks like 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.640 an ordinary white light but it runs at a lower temperature than a 00:50:06.640 --> 00:50:11.360 standard bright incandescent bulb so it's heavier 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.440 on the the red part of the spectrum i got you 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.880 thank you so much for your time and your effort and all your love 00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:23.200 Dr. Peat you're awesome okay thank you for your call caller thank you 00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:30.000 so again presumably uh the more skin uh you can bear to a red light the better 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.320 the absorption of the light although i'm sure to some extent whether you're 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.360 wearing t-shirt or a light shirt red light will 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.520 penetrate some of that yeah people have experimented with 00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:48.960 pigeons despite their feathers they can see the the systemic 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:52.080 effect coming through their body because the red 00:50:52.080 --> 00:50:57.280 light penetrates pretty much anything living material all right we have 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.720 another we have another caller so caller you're on the air where you're from 00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:05.840 and what's your question uh new york is just related to the 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:10.400 points just made on the pregnant alone how do you know whether you need it i 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.600 mean you mentioned older people and stuff i mean because i 00:51:13.600 --> 00:51:16.160 think in previous shows Dr. Peat you said you 00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:19.520 took it for a while and now you no longer take it so i'm just 00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:22.640 wondering how does one decide whether whether you 00:51:22.640 --> 00:51:27.680 should be taking it or not um in the 1980s when i first 00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:31.520 experimented with it a lot of younger people 00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:37.920 wanted to try it and uh good healthy people in their 30s and early 40s 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.120 felt nothing they could take a spoonful and 00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:47.920 have absolutely no noticeable effect but when someone was in their late 40s 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:54.320 or early 50s and feeling hopeless and depressed even a pinch of it 15 or 20 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.960 milligrams in 15 minutes their faces would light up and they 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.360 would grin and and get ambitious projects going again 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:09.040 decide not to quit their their job so if when you need it it's a 00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:12.960 very vivid effect even with a small amount okay so 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.680 you're saying that you would the trigger would be hey if 00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:19.280 you're feeling really down but if you're not feeling really down you're doing all 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.400 the other stuff and your energy is pretty steady and 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.680 you're as lucky as andrew to sleep the way he sleeps that's pretty impressive 00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:28.640 you know then you know then you're saying your body probably makes enough 00:52:28.640 --> 00:52:31.600 of it yeah okay that's probably why you don't 00:52:31.600 --> 00:52:35.360 take it the other thing is on water i think in one of your write-ups 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:40.480 you you mentioned water earlier um babies are 80 percent water and older 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.520 people are 55 percent water so i'm just i'm just wondering and i guess 00:52:45.520 --> 00:52:48.880 high metabolic rate relates to high water percentage in the 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.320 body if you're older how is it not possible if you have 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.760 dropped to a much lower percentage of water that 00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.520 you wouldn't need more water maybe it's sparkling water to get the co2 00:52:59.520 --> 00:53:06.240 and yeah the co2 and the atp are the things that hold good water in the cells 00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:10.080 while squeezing out unwanted improper water 00:53:10.080 --> 00:53:17.120 uh pregnenolone progesterone uh atp and co2 all have that 00:53:17.120 --> 00:53:24.560 effect on the cytoplasm in particular to keep it from taking on 00:53:24.560 --> 00:53:28.240 disorganized water but making it hang on to 00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:32.240 the water that's organized and running its 00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:40.560 metabolism so i i think old people will take up a lot of cellular 00:53:40.560 --> 00:53:46.400 metabolic water that increases their metabolic rate when they repair their 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.000 mitochondria reduce stress hormones so you're saying 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:57.520 there's good water and bad water and hanging around your cells and yeah 00:53:57.520 --> 00:54:04.880 a healthy kids cell that contains lots of water is metabolizing 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:12.880 intensely keeping its co2 up and its lactic acid down and 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:19.680 that the water is part of of letting the cell run at a high rate 00:54:19.680 --> 00:54:26.880 and you can restore some of that metabolic active water with those things 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:33.040 such as progesterone pregnenolone thyroid and carbon dioxide 00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:37.200 a great great interest one last quick question vitamin i'll just get off 00:54:37.200 --> 00:54:43.760 vitamin a d k how do you know what ratio and how much you actually need 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.200 particularly for you know people as you age 00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:51.360 i mean how do you know that how do you get it 00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:57.760 um what's the ratio for example of a to d is it five to one is it four to one or 00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.800 i don't think there's a definite ratio because 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.440 as your thyroid function increases you're able to use 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:10.480 lots of vitamin a in making pregnenolone and progesterone 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:17.280 it's coordinated with a thyroid hormone and cholesterol to convert 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.240 cholesterol into the good hormones and if your 00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:25.280 thyroid is low then too much vitamin a 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.120 interferes and lowers the thyroid function can i ask you a quick question 00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:31.120 dr p i know we've got to wrap it up here 00:55:31.120 --> 00:55:33.280 because it's just a couple of minutes to top of the hour but 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:38.320 in terms of pregnenolone and its production or rather its conversion 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.920 cholesterol is the main building block from which these hormones are built from 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:45.840 correct yeah and the reason cholesterol rises 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.760 with age is that things like low low thyroid 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:54.480 function and low vitamin a availability interfere with the 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.800 production of pregnenolone and progesterone 00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.480 and so your body compensates by increasing 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.480 the cholesterol and the cholesterol increase can cause your tissue 00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:11.840 production of pregnenolone and progesterone to increase 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:19.840 to to up to the limit of the cell's capability governed by 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.760 vitamin a and thyroid okay hold it there dr p let's 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:27.360 get the last minute or two just to let people know 00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:31.200 where they can find more of your information thanks for your time okay 00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:34.480 okay so for those people who've called in thanks for your calls 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.200 uh there's other people that called in i don't think they got a chance 00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:40.800 um to ask questions but thank you for trying 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.640 um for those people who want to find out more about dr p um his website is 00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:50.400 www.rayPeat.com and he's got lots of articles that are 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:55.760 fully referenced as only a post grad student would produce a 00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.160 paper so lots of references there for all the things that he's saying 00:57:00.160 --> 00:57:05.040 and that caller with the uh brewer's yeast question and diabetes that there's 00:57:05.040 --> 00:57:08.560 a couple of good articles there on his website which go into great 00:57:08.560 --> 00:57:13.520 detail about diabetes and the dysfunction uh that is part of the 00:57:13.520 --> 00:57:17.520 cause um for those people uh who wanted a call 00:57:17.520 --> 00:57:20.880 but didn't and just listened uh Dr. Peat's uh he's still doing what 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.480 he's doing so um thank you very much Dr. Peat for your 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:28.080 tireless effort and until the third friday of next month 00:57:28.080 --> 00:57:34.400 uh what with the solstice coming up here um we'll see you then