WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Well, welcome to this month's May of 2019's edition of "Ask Your Rev. Doctor." 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:09.280 My name's Andrew Murray. 00:00:09.280 --> 00:00:14.920 For those of you who have perhaps never listened to the show, they run every third Friday of 00:00:14.920 --> 00:00:18.280 the month from 7 to 8 o'clock. 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:22.600 We also have a live call-in from 7.30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock where people 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:31.320 can call in with questions either related or unrelated to the topic of the month. 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:37.480 As always, it's become very appreciated and commonplace here with the "Ask Your Rev. Doctor" 00:00:37.480 --> 00:00:41.560 show for, gosh, 10 years or more now. 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.640 We're very pleased to have Dr. Raymond Peat's expertise on the show. 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.560 He has a wealth of wisdom and a wealth of knowledge. 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:50.680 I don't think there's many things I've ever asked him that he hasn't got a good answer 00:00:50.680 --> 00:00:51.680 for. 00:00:51.680 --> 00:00:56.680 He'll be joining us, of course, and I'll be posing questions to him and getting his 00:00:56.680 --> 00:01:01.480 view and his understanding on some of those things that we'll be bringing up in tonight's 00:01:01.480 --> 00:01:03.840 discussion. 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:14.360 We can always be reached after the show, Monday through Friday, regular business hours, 1-888-WBM-ERB. 00:01:14.360 --> 00:01:18.360 This month's subject is a little clear up from last month to get one or two of the questions 00:01:18.360 --> 00:01:21.400 I never got a chance to ask Dr. Peat. 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:30.080 And then we're going to carry on with pollutants, particulates and waste creating havoc with 00:01:30.080 --> 00:01:33.720 biological life as we know it. 00:01:33.720 --> 00:01:40.520 Increasingly we are armed with more and more information as time goes on. 00:01:40.520 --> 00:01:47.680 As usual, I ask people to be moderate about their information and check their sources. 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:54.600 Obviously there's a wealth of information on the internet and there is quite a desire 00:01:54.600 --> 00:01:56.840 to attract your attention. 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.240 So take a look at the studies, but look at the background of the studies. 00:02:01.240 --> 00:02:08.000 I'm always questioning Dr. Peat when he'll come up with answers for certain things and 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.360 point me to a study. 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.640 And sometimes these studies are buried and you won't find them too easily. 00:02:13.640 --> 00:02:21.160 What you'll find is the hype, the media sensationalized responses, the cliche answers, etc. or the 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:28.040 repeated dogma or even downright lies that are perpetuated in the name of science. 00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:34.600 So always check your sources and make sure that your details are coming from not vested 00:02:34.600 --> 00:02:40.100 interests but honest research that's seeking to find the truth. 00:02:40.100 --> 00:02:46.840 And good science will always be answerable and will always put itself in the right place 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.600 when better science comes up with a better answer. 00:02:50.600 --> 00:02:53.640 So science is a very good thing for science's sake. 00:02:53.640 --> 00:03:01.480 Although it's very much a holistic thrust which I go through the show with, it's definitely 00:03:01.480 --> 00:03:07.600 grounded very much in science because it's a pretty true pathway through. 00:03:07.600 --> 00:03:13.200 So Dr. Peat, thanks for joining us so much. 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:17.840 Just in case people have tuned into the show for the first time and maybe never heard your 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.060 voice, would you please just go over your academic professional background before we 00:03:22.060 --> 00:03:23.960 get started? 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:33.160 I studied at the University of Oregon, biology specializing in reproductive physiology and 00:03:33.160 --> 00:03:37.800 biochemistry as it related to that. 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:44.000 A PhD in 1972 and since then continuing related study. 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.000 Yeah. 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.000 Okay. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:52.760 And you've spent a very large part of that time actively interacting with people and 00:03:52.760 --> 00:04:00.160 trying to get them to change what they've been doing and what they do and kind of steering 00:04:00.160 --> 00:04:06.240 them in a better direction given the evidence and the science that you've found out and 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.720 you've studied and you've recognized is a much better way forward than what we're normally 00:04:10.720 --> 00:04:11.720 told. 00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:12.720 Yeah. 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:18.640 Around 1960 I decided that any knowledge should be useful. 00:04:18.640 --> 00:04:27.680 So any time I find out anything interesting I try to connect it to practical reality. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:28.680 Yeah. 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:29.680 Absolutely. 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:33.480 Well if we can just finish up with a couple of the things I never got a chance last month 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:42.200 to question you about before we launch into the pollutant side of this month's talk. 00:04:42.200 --> 00:04:51.920 I think the figures show a 25% increase over the 38 years that the study was done from 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:57.240 1975 to 2012 in the prevalence of cancers in adolescents. 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:01.840 Now this does tie into this night's show anyway because the pollutant aspect of this evening's 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:07.000 topic very much encompasses all of these things which could be perfectly responsible for a 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:12.600 lot of these cancers that have been shown in this study to be very much on the rise 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.040 and scary reading it is too. 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:26.120 So I found that pathologies in adolescents are accelerating and it's not like a kind 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:27.240 of very slow increase. 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:32.520 It's a kind of a rapid acceleration that they're seeing in the numbers of adolescents 00:05:32.520 --> 00:05:37.000 that are suffering from cancers that never were seen before. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:42.960 And so what do you, I mean they have implicated obesity and I think the whole obesity linked 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:51.280 to diet is probably a good and reasonable detail in the equation of why adolescents 00:05:51.280 --> 00:05:54.880 and/or cancers in general are just exploding. 00:05:54.880 --> 00:05:58.680 What do you think about them from a biological and physiological perspective because I know 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.920 you've done a lot of work on polyunsaturates and thyroid and those kind of things that 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:03.920 are... 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:10.440 Yeah, I think some of it is the present diet and the present polluted environment full 00:06:10.440 --> 00:06:13.560 of carcinogens and estrogens. 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:20.920 But I think it was actually starting a long time ago influencing prenatal conditions even 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:32.000 so that their parents' exposure is transmitted affecting the way they develop in the utero 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.560 and affects the whole maturing process. 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:44.000 So early childhood diseases have increased so much, colitis for example. 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:52.560 I don't think it is likely that it's all some change in the diet that is making them so 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:59.760 allergic, so reactive to fairly ordinary things in the environment. 00:06:59.760 --> 00:07:08.160 For example, it's known that the polyunsaturated content of the mother's diet increases the 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:18.840 allergies of the babies and so colitis in young children is probably a reaction to the 00:07:18.840 --> 00:07:22.600 mother's diet, maybe from earlier exposures of the parents. 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:23.600 Right. 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.440 Okay, so this would be like an inflammatory process occurring within the bowel and you 00:07:27.440 --> 00:07:35.160 always kind of use the bowel as the seat of health in terms of a good bowel pretty much 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.880 will predispose you to good health and if there are changes that you need to make, your 00:07:38.880 --> 00:07:42.720 bowel will be the first place to look at. 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:52.120 So in terms of this kind of reactive allergic type condition, you've also mentioned, and 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.120 I wanted to ask you this a little while back actually, why? 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:01.040 And I think just to get it on tape as it were, you know, tape is obsolete these days, but 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:08.720 just to get it on audio for people to hear in future, the whole rationale behind mothers 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:18.000 being prescribed fish oils, omega oils, and telling them that that is actually good for 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:24.320 their child's health, and I know you've rebut this or rebutted it with studies showing that 00:08:24.320 --> 00:08:33.960 the child whilst maybe appearing more sedate and calm and relaxed when they're first birth 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.880 is actually a sign of the kind of retardation in some ways and that actually there's a relationship 00:08:39.880 --> 00:08:47.120 between lower brain weight and function and intelligence associated with the same oils 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:52.080 that you've mentioned here in terms of the mother's diet and the way that's changed in 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.080 the last 30 or 40 years. 00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:00.720 Yeah, last month I think I mentioned the French study that thought they were going to demonstrate 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:09.600 improved prenatal brain function by giving these extremely unsaturated fats to the mother 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:16.840 during pregnancy, and they showed just the opposite, that retarded development and retarded 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:27.240 learning, but in the early 1970s they were already seeing that the polyunsaturated fats 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:35.560 during pregnancy made animals develop smaller brains that learned more poorly. 00:09:35.560 --> 00:09:39.480 Yeah, alright. 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:44.200 I think I wanted to go on with some of the cancers that were stated to be on the rise 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:53.440 according to etiology and see if there's any link between the type of cancer and the environmental 00:09:53.440 --> 00:10:02.840 effects, perhaps, of some of these chemicals in the environment with those particular organs. 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:11.880 I know the figures talk about non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and then thyroid cancer is the second 00:10:11.880 --> 00:10:17.920 one here, and then myeloid leukemia and testicular cancer. 00:10:17.920 --> 00:10:23.440 And now these are things, I mean I'm looking at germ cell type cancers with testicular 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:30.160 cancer and then in the myeloid cancers this is kind of, again, another, it's not germ 00:10:30.160 --> 00:10:36.480 cell in the terms of sex germ cells, but it's a kind of progenitor's type situation where 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:44.840 the very fundamental cell that is being formed is subjected to this condition that it can't 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:49.600 cope with and cancer arises as a result of disorganization. 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.320 And again with the lymphomas. 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:57.080 What they have in common is rapid growth. 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:05.720 The sperm is turning over constantly and the blood cells are in constant diffusion. 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:16.960 And irritants accelerate the growth and the polyunsaturated fats, for example, break down 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:17.960 the fish oil. 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:22.920 It is always oxidized by the time it gets into the bloodstream. 00:11:22.920 --> 00:11:28.120 Very little of it reaches the tissues in its entire form. 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:37.800 So you get these oxidized fragments that are toxic through rapidly multiplying cells causing 00:11:37.800 --> 00:11:48.400 a deformity, atrophy in the sperm forming tissue and derangement of the development course of 00:11:48.400 --> 00:11:54.440 the blood cells leading to leukemia and lymphoma. 00:11:54.440 --> 00:12:00.600 How long do you think it takes from exposure to, I mean, I'm sure it depends on how healthy 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:06.280 a subject is to begin with, how much metabolic energy they are capable of producing, how 00:12:06.280 --> 00:12:11.960 poorly they are functioning will also be detrimental to them. 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.520 They'll probably go down quicker as it were. 00:12:14.520 --> 00:12:18.960 But how long do you think these things might take before they start manifesting? 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.440 In these rapidly multiplying tissues, I think it's much faster than in the average cancer. 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:34.040 I think that's why leukemia has been seen so often in children just a few years old 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:42.560 where the typical cancer, a brain cancer or a pancreas cancer, for example, usually takes 00:12:42.560 --> 00:12:51.640 20 years or more from the carcinogenic primary exposure to the appearance of the fully developed 00:12:51.640 --> 00:12:54.840 tumor, sometimes 40 years. 00:12:54.840 --> 00:13:04.760 But you can definitely show that there's a cause connection to it, but it's long delayed. 00:13:04.760 --> 00:13:12.400 And that has been useful to the polluting industries to claim that you can't show the 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:14.880 cause and effect relationship. 00:13:14.880 --> 00:13:22.360 But animal studies make it clear that although there is a delay, it's an absolutely causal 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.440 process. 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:32.040 Do you think that younger people inherently have more resistance though to these kind 00:13:32.040 --> 00:13:36.760 of insults or do you think actually they're more susceptible? 00:13:36.760 --> 00:13:43.320 In some of those tissues, they're probably more susceptible because of their extreme 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.400 speed of turning over. 00:13:46.400 --> 00:13:55.840 A little deviation in the regulatory process can send them wildly off course. 00:13:55.840 --> 00:14:06.400 But generally the extremely high metabolic rate and quick cell division lets young organisms 00:14:06.400 --> 00:14:12.960 bypass, they can find a way around the toxic problem and overcome it. 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:13.960 Okay. 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.960 All right, you're listening to Ask Urobiotic K. Medegarbovil, 91.1 FM. 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.960 From now until the end of the show, 8 o'clock, you are invited. 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.320 Well, no, from 7.30 to 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in. 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.280 The show does stop at 8 o'clock, but if people would like to call in with any questions, 00:14:30.280 --> 00:14:31.280 the number is 707-923-3911. 00:14:31.280 --> 00:14:41.080 So Dr. Peat, I mentioned to you in talking last month about what hasn't actually surfaced 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:45.940 again as another sensational headline unlike Ebola, which certainly seems to be grabbing 00:14:45.940 --> 00:14:49.780 the headlines along with the measles "epidemic". 00:14:49.780 --> 00:14:53.080 But what did you have to say about Candida auris? 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:57.860 I don't think you were that impressed with some of the sensational headlines claiming 00:14:57.860 --> 00:15:04.160 it to be this superbug that's going to just become the be-all end-all of... 00:15:04.160 --> 00:15:09.960 The advertising I've seen connected with it strongly suggests that it's an advertising 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.960 campaign for new drugs. 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.000 Okay, there you go. 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.080 All right. 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:26.080 So my last question related to antibiotics and when I was studying herbal medicine in 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:33.360 1990 here, they were all talking about, you know, antibiotic resistance and superbugs 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:39.120 and not having antibiotics to treat infections and we're all going to be in big trouble. 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:44.640 And yeah, I think to one extent or another, that's probably happening. 00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:52.760 But what do you think in terms of the arsenal of antibiotics that we have to treat infections? 00:15:52.760 --> 00:16:00.480 In Eastern Europe and Asia, long before penicillin was discovered, people were finding that there 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:10.600 are bacteria-killing viruses, the bacteriophage, and that technology has really developed to 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:16.640 a high degree that it's of no interest to the countries that have a highly developed 00:16:16.640 --> 00:16:19.600 pharmaceutical industry. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:27.440 But these viruses infect only bacteria, kill certain species. 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:33.440 Bacteria never develop resistance to them and the viruses are perfectly harmless to 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.440 mammals and people. 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:36.440 All right. 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:43.920 So you think as far as you're concerned, there's enough phage research being done to produce 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:51.080 phage is pretty much tailored for whatever organism it is that they are looking to eradicate 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.120 or deal or treat that may have become resistant to antibiotics. 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.120 You think that they are? 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.120 Yeah. 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:03.160 Some people have told their stories of being diagnosed as incurably infected with superbacteria 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:07.560 going to Eastern Europe, getting totally cured quickly. 00:17:07.560 --> 00:17:08.560 Interesting. 00:17:08.560 --> 00:17:09.560 All right. 00:17:09.560 --> 00:17:14.440 And again, I don't know if it's the Russians or some other Eastern... 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:20.400 Yeah, Southeast, Bulgaria and Romania, I think, have a good tradition. 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:21.400 India too. 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:22.400 Wow. 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:23.840 Yeah, I know the Indians are pretty smart people. 00:17:23.840 --> 00:17:25.240 I've got a lot of respect for them. 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:31.280 I think it's an underrated country, a lot of poor people, but some very brilliant people 00:17:31.280 --> 00:17:32.840 have come from there. 00:17:32.840 --> 00:17:33.840 Okay. 00:17:33.840 --> 00:17:40.360 So I wanted to talk about a subject that we did touch on a little bit last month, but 00:17:40.360 --> 00:17:46.280 I don't think we've really got into it at all, particulates and whether these particulates 00:17:46.280 --> 00:17:48.400 are from diesel engines. 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:53.480 It's been certainly mentioned in England a long time ago that the emissions from diesel 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:58.800 engines were so fine that they posed a respiratory problem and something had to be done to make 00:17:58.800 --> 00:18:05.200 the engines more efficient or therefore the scrubbers and exhaust more efficient at pulling 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.880 these things out. 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:16.000 But I read an article saying that pollution and air pollution in particular, although 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:21.200 we talk about other pollution later on, but air pollution is essentially causing damage 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.520 to every organ in the body. 00:18:22.520 --> 00:18:29.760 This was a big article ran through from basically from the brain saying that this particular 00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:35.120 types of air pollution can be carried and transmitted up the olfactory nerve and into 00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:36.120 the brain. 00:18:36.120 --> 00:18:42.840 Then I talked about thyroid and the lungs and in a reproductive organ saying that basically 00:18:42.840 --> 00:18:50.080 nothing was spared and that dementia and heart and lung disease were becoming increasingly 00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:53.760 prevalent and they're putting it down to air pollution and just saying that it's becoming 00:18:53.760 --> 00:18:58.200 a crisis that needs to be addressed. 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:03.160 Just a few months ago, the accepted number of deaths caused by air pollution was about 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:10.000 4 million per year, but this recent World Health Organization study says it's over 8 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:15.280 million, I think 8.8 million dying from air pollution. 00:19:15.280 --> 00:19:21.840 I mean, certainly in developing countries, Asia I think in particular, you see pictures 00:19:21.840 --> 00:19:29.520 of the smog in China or in other capitals of the Asian world and it looks absolutely 00:19:29.520 --> 00:19:30.520 dreadful. 00:19:30.520 --> 00:19:35.040 It reminds me of what would have been smog in the early 1900s in England. 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:41.160 And obviously things like coal-fired power plants are on the increase in terms of generating 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.480 energy to keep the economies going. 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.040 What do you think about what we're faced with? 00:19:47.040 --> 00:19:51.320 And I've always wondered about the Redwood Coast here. 00:19:51.320 --> 00:19:56.800 Supposedly California's got a really clean, I would imagine, I'd like to see the data, 00:19:56.800 --> 00:20:00.760 real data for it, but after coming across thousands of miles of ocean, I would have 00:20:00.760 --> 00:20:06.080 imagined that the air would have been relatively clean compared to if we were on the East Coast 00:20:06.080 --> 00:20:10.200 and we're getting air from the West Coast and it's blowing across the whole of the States, 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.080 picking up and carrying with it. 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:18.440 We do get some smoke and dust from Chinese industry, but the West Coast is far cleaner 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.080 than interior. 00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:28.320 Coming across the ocean, it does rain out or settle out lots of material. 00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:34.040 Okay, so from a respiratory point of view, before we get into any particular pollution, 00:20:34.040 --> 00:20:40.920 I've certainly, when I first came here in 2001, I never really thought too much about 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.840 it, but it's kind of stayed with me for a while. 00:20:44.840 --> 00:20:51.520 What they call here the Humboldt hack, and there was actually a noblest who was making 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:55.880 a product that was called Humboldt Hack-A-Way, and it was pretty popular, I think, because 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:02.920 there was so many people here in this area that had this persistent chronic clearing 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:04.240 of the throat. 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:08.200 And I didn't think too much of it, but everywhere around me, I would hear people coughing and 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:13.080 hacking, and lo and behold, probably four or five years ago, I started doing it myself, 00:21:13.080 --> 00:21:22.680 and I'll tell you, I don't know whether or not it's a redwood allergy or if it's an allergy 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:27.000 to some endemic species that lives in this area or mold. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:32.160 People want to talk about the mold because of the fairly dense canopy of the forest here 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.760 and how damp it is most of the winter, at least until the dryness of the summer comes. 00:21:36.760 --> 00:21:44.760 But what do you think about that kind of respiratory allergy or a chronic infection even? 00:21:44.760 --> 00:21:48.400 I wonder that would be responsible for such a persistent cough. 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.080 It reminds me of something that doesn't probably end in a good way. 00:21:53.080 --> 00:22:02.040 The foliage, big forests do emit quite a lot of organic material, including pollen, and 00:22:02.040 --> 00:22:06.760 probably is a cause of a lot of allergy. 00:22:06.760 --> 00:22:12.880 I know there's a region in Texas famous for its cedar tree allergies. 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:20.520 I imagine conifer forests have people who are sensitive to their pollen. 00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:21.520 Yeah. 00:22:21.520 --> 00:22:23.640 Have you heard anything like that in Oregon? 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.120 No, I haven't, surprisingly. 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:31.960 And when I've gone away, whenever I've gone back to England, it does generally clear up 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:35.280 in the couple of three weeks that I have to go. 00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:36.520 It certainly makes a difference. 00:22:36.520 --> 00:22:40.520 And I'm like, wow, what is it that sensitized me to where I live? 00:22:40.520 --> 00:22:43.000 And I think there is something real about it. 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.720 Anyway, OK, so getting on to plastics. 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:50.080 I know that's another big topic. 00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:55.840 And I saw it probably the first time about eight months ago, I think, or maybe a year 00:22:55.840 --> 00:22:56.840 ago. 00:22:56.840 --> 00:22:59.280 And I'd never really considered it before. 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:06.600 I think we all recognize just how ubiquitous plastic is and has been for quite some time 00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:10.880 now with the petrochemical companies producing it. 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:20.400 And the sea, the gyre, the one of five gyres in the world, the North Pacific gyre becoming 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.920 this floating island of debris, bigger than Mexico. 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.560 It's probably half the size of the continent of the US. 00:23:27.560 --> 00:23:37.720 And a dive was done down to the Marianas Trench, which hadn't been exceeded since the first 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.880 dive in 1960. 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.480 Someone went down, oh, just a year ago, I think. 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:47.840 And lo and behold, they found down the very bottom of the Mariana Trench what appeared 00:23:47.840 --> 00:23:49.600 to be plastic debris. 00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:56.840 And so this sparked a whole investigation into what's going on with plastics when they 00:23:56.840 --> 00:23:58.560 get into the environment. 00:23:58.560 --> 00:24:05.760 And the breakdown of the fragmentation or defragmentation here of plastics into microplastics 00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:11.360 and how just about every animal species is becoming loaded with these microplastics. 00:24:11.360 --> 00:24:18.040 I was wondering from an estrogenic perspective that these have got to be disrupting the endocrine 00:24:18.040 --> 00:24:22.400 system and being responsible for some part of the cancer makeup. 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:28.400 Yeah, plastics are in general very hydrophobic. 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:35.840 And so the things like the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons that are famous carcinogens, 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:39.560 these concentrate on the surface of the particles. 00:24:39.560 --> 00:24:48.000 And so even the particles that are macroscopic, when they're ingested, they deliver a very 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:56.400 big dose, concentrated dose of these organic carcinogens that are bound to the surfaces. 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:04.000 But then there's the smaller particle is toxic in a directly structural way. 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:11.480 The extremely small nanoparticles pass right into the -- through the cells in the circulatory 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:16.800 system and are taken up by cells all through the body. 00:25:16.800 --> 00:25:24.160 And if you think of the scale, you know, they're extremely small compared to bacteria. 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:30.760 Compared to proteins inside the cells, they're relatively huge. 00:25:30.760 --> 00:25:35.720 They're very foreign to the structure of the cytoplasm. 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:41.320 And so they're necessarily disruptive when they get in cells. 00:25:41.320 --> 00:25:50.280 And that to the degree that their size interferes with the functions of the cytoplasm, they 00:25:50.280 --> 00:25:54.320 turn on alarm reactions of different kinds. 00:25:54.320 --> 00:26:03.760 One kind of reaction is to make the cell leaky, giving up proteins like when the liver is 00:26:03.760 --> 00:26:09.400 irritated, it leaks its proteins and enzymes into the bloodstream. 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:17.360 But ATP itself leaks out when cells are structurally irritated by these particles. 00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:24.560 And then the ATP is recognized as a danger signal by the environment. 00:26:24.560 --> 00:26:30.400 And so it tends to be a self-perpetuating reaction. 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:35.600 Cell gets irritated, sends out ATP, which alarms other cells. 00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:44.880 They leak ATP and you get a storm of cells losing their energy and creating excitement 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:45.880 in their environment. 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.880 Okay, even to ATP, huh? 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.880 Yeah. 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:50.880 Wow. 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:51.880 All right. 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:59.360 I looked at the bisphenol A and the other, what they call the persistent organic pollutants 00:26:59.360 --> 00:27:06.680 that were banned in the '70s, just because they recognized after they'd polluted everything 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.040 massively that these things were so persistent in the environment that they needed to do 00:27:11.040 --> 00:27:15.160 something about it because not only would they just not break down and be persistent 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:21.680 for a long time, they were taken up by the fat tissue of any animal that would consume 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:29.160 it, and so pass up the food chain and ride up to us, obviously, as we talk about the 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:36.600 oceans being contaminated with plastics and microplastics, the fish that we eat and the 00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:37.680 shellfish that we eat. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.640 And I wanted to ask you about the shellfish. 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:45.120 I know you're a big advocate of shellfish for micronutrients and things that you won't 00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:50.240 typically get from terrestrial organisms, but I looked at an article talking about mussels 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:54.920 in England and the people that would collect mussels and harvest them, and I think in Ireland 00:27:54.920 --> 00:28:01.480 also on the West Coast, it's a relatively good source of food that people can gather 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.040 easily. 00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:09.640 But these little crustaceans here, they can pick up the same microplastics as well as 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:19.080 these other compounds, and I wonder at what point does the negative effect of any of that 00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:24.280 outweigh the beneficial effect of anything that's obtained from them rather than terrestrial 00:28:24.280 --> 00:28:25.280 creatures? 00:28:25.280 --> 00:28:30.160 Because I've always, I guess I've always steered clear of fish for the last 15 years or so 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:35.280 since I started finding out just how much pollution there was in the ocean in terms 00:28:35.280 --> 00:28:41.480 of heavy metals and other compounds. 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:49.080 Like the organic compounds, the plastic particles tend to be concentrated up the food chain 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:54.400 since they aren't well detoxified. 00:28:54.400 --> 00:29:00.760 Bigger older organisms are the ones that are most polluted and dangerous. 00:29:00.760 --> 00:29:08.280 So years ago we stopped eating the large fish. 00:29:08.280 --> 00:29:15.160 Orange ruffe and halibut, for example, live a very long time and accumulate huge amounts 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.160 of toxins. 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.160 Yeah, for sure. 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:24.080 I did a similar thing about two years ago once it started becoming just more and more 00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:25.080 relevant. 00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:29.520 I think for the longest time I wanted to go fishing and was, I don't know, it has never 00:29:29.520 --> 00:29:30.820 really happened. 00:29:30.820 --> 00:29:34.520 And I think as time went on it just became more probably relevant that I shouldn't go 00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:36.680 fishing because actually the fish wasn't that good. 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:43.440 And so in the end I ran five, I think, different types of fish that were caught here locally 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:47.720 on the West Coast just out in Shelter Cove where we live. 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:54.040 And I sent it to a lab in Washington that we run our herb material through ICP-MS, which 00:29:54.040 --> 00:30:01.040 is an induction coupled mass spectrometry, and picking out specifically the California 00:30:01.040 --> 00:30:06.760 Prop 65 compounds that we need to closely watch and be in compliance with in terms of 00:30:06.760 --> 00:30:09.640 production of our medicinal herbs. 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:13.180 So arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury were the things that we were looking at in our herbs 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:18.600 and I sent fish samples to the laboratory up in Washington to sample and I was staggered 00:30:18.600 --> 00:30:20.480 actually at what came back. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:27.680 And there was definitely a correlation between the larger fish, so between tuna, salmon, 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.400 cod and bottom fish. 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.880 They were in descending order loaded with mercury. 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:39.440 I wasn't able to speciate the mercury to see whether it was methylmercury or some other 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:45.560 compound but they had the same thing with cadmium too in arsenic and way higher than 00:30:45.560 --> 00:30:52.440 any animal product that I sent to the same lab in terms of wild game that was hunted, 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.440 whether it was elk or deer locally. 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.280 That was very clean comparatively. 00:30:58.280 --> 00:31:04.440 So it's always put me off eating fish even though it comes from California and California 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.800 is supposedly really clean and we'd like to believe that our air is clean and the water's 00:31:08.800 --> 00:31:11.800 clean and we live actually in a very special place. 00:31:11.800 --> 00:31:17.680 It's so unfortunate that there is a worldwide polluted ocean. 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.640 I don't think there's any real escape from it, is there? 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:30.840 No, that information is part of why I'm an advocate of milk because you start with moderately 00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:41.680 polluted vegetation, a cow eats it and sends it to the rumen where bacteria and fungus, 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:48.840 various microorganisms break it down and process it, eliminate many of the toxic materials 00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:51.360 on the microbial level. 00:31:51.360 --> 00:32:03.560 Then it's filtered into the animal's bloodstream and filtered again into the mammary gland 00:32:03.560 --> 00:32:07.640 for levels of extremely efficient filtering. 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:13.000 So milk is probably the safest food by a wide margin. 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:18.280 All right, let me just ask the engineer, I guess I'd like to go on that but I still hear 00:32:18.280 --> 00:32:21.800 you and I still see him so I think we're all good even though the lights are going out. 00:32:21.800 --> 00:32:25.120 I've seen the lights flashing there in the studio so I don't know if we have any callers 00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:26.120 on there or not. 00:32:26.120 --> 00:32:29.360 Oh, the lights are coming back on. 00:32:29.360 --> 00:32:36.840 We had a caller who was asking the doctor to speak to the ingredient in Roundup, the 00:32:36.840 --> 00:32:37.840 glycosylate, the glyphosate. 00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:38.840 That's correct. 00:32:38.840 --> 00:32:43.440 Well, let me just let people know, you're listening to Ask Your Obed Doctor, K.M.D. 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:49.520 Probable, 91.1 FM, from now to 8 o'clock, callers are invited to call in with any questions 00:32:49.520 --> 00:32:57.680 either related to plastics pollution, environmental pollution, cancer, etc., etc., caused by pollution 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.240 and the rise in it and how to mitigate that. 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.720 I'll be asking Dr. Peat in a bit here some of the strategies that can be probably best 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.120 employed. 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:11.760 And also, it doesn't really matter if the question is unrelated to this month's show 00:33:11.760 --> 00:33:13.880 but the number is 707-923-3911. 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:21.040 So Dr. Peat, I think that person who hung up was asking about glyphosate and I saw that 00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:28.720 there had been massive punitive damages awarded recently for that product by people that have 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.080 gotten cancer, unfortunately. 00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:38.360 30 or 40 years ago, I knew people who had studied biology at the Oregon State University, 00:33:38.360 --> 00:33:46.760 a land grant university which specializes in agriculture and really their education 00:33:46.760 --> 00:33:53.560 is highly guided by industry, by the pesticide and herbicide industry. 00:33:53.560 --> 00:34:01.160 They were telling me that Roundup is specifically toxic to plants so it can't hurt animals. 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:12.920 They simply were taught that there are some kind of biological ultimate distinctions between 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:18.720 plant cells and animal cells but really we have so much in common that it's not at all 00:34:18.720 --> 00:34:24.120 surprising that Roundup is extremely toxic to animals too. 00:34:24.120 --> 00:34:31.400 It's funny, I just got a little one line here that I saw in an article that in Germany, 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.480 they say that the young men there have been found to produce only a third of the sperm 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.280 that German men did 30 years ago. 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:47.800 What do you think about virility and spermatogenesis amongst men and that probably ties into pollution 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.840 and just decreased energy? 00:34:50.840 --> 00:35:01.920 Yeah, everything, many things are called phytoestrogens and pseudoestrogens and so on but anything 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:10.800 injurious creates inflammation and the inflammation leads to the production of estrogen and so 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:19.840 anything that is toxic is going to reduce a man's testosterone, sperm production and 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.160 in general virility. 00:35:23.160 --> 00:35:28.280 So let me ask you about phytoestrogens just for the record here because when I was studying 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:35.400 herbal medicine, back then I was under the misguided belief that phytoestrogens were 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:41.520 good for females with menopausal hot flashes and that they were beneficial and then I think 00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:46.320 you just said no. 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.000 So what are your thoughts on your take on phytoestrogens and how they interact in the 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:56.680 body so women that maybe might have been using black cohosh or wild yam or other phytoestrogenic 00:35:56.680 --> 00:35:59.960 herbs are actually not doing what they should be doing because we all recognize now that 00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:02.520 progesterone is really what you need. 00:36:02.520 --> 00:36:10.320 Some of the herbs are anti-prolactin rather than specifically anti-estrogen. 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.160 Right, that would be Vitex perhaps. 00:36:13.160 --> 00:36:21.920 So that can be very protective and the official concept of what's estrogenic is what sticks 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:32.480 to the so-called estrogen receptor but the estrogen receptor, even in the total absence 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:40.360 of estrogen, if you injure the cell or cut off the oxygen supply, the estrogen receptor 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:50.680 goes through its actions of acting like estrogen is present so that it's somewhat of a coincidence 00:36:50.680 --> 00:36:56.680 that a substance binds to the estrogen receptor. 00:36:56.680 --> 00:37:02.000 It doesn't mean that it's going to activate estrogen-like processes. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.360 It can inactivate the estrogen system depending on what it does to that protein. 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:22.360 So the estrogenic substances really, a lot of them have been called phytoestrogens but 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:30.960 what they're doing is either decreasing or intensifying the cell's energy production. 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:38.120 Estrogen characteristically acts like the loss of oxygen and so if you have something 00:37:38.120 --> 00:37:42.080 that in effect suffocates the cell, that's estrogenic. 00:37:42.080 --> 00:37:47.720 If you have a so-called phytoestrogen, it might stick to the estrogen receptor but if 00:37:47.720 --> 00:37:55.440 it is an oxidant and activates, catalyzes the oxidative processes, then it's acting as an 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:56.440 anti-estrogen. 00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.200 Okay, let's hold it there, Dr. Peat. 00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:03.240 There's a couple of callers online that have been busy flashing away in the studio. 00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:05.360 So let's see this first caller. 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:06.360 First caller, you're on the air. 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:07.360 Where are you from and what's your question? 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:08.360 Okay, I have a question. 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.640 We have not vaccinated our six-year-old and being in California now, it looks like we're 00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:21.800 going to have to even with the doctors exempt to be in school and I'm just curious if there's 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:27.040 any kind of like herbal or any, like if we do decide to do something with the baby, is 00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:33.120 there any kind of like herbal or any kind of like any kind of like any kind of like 00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:38.800 I'm curious if there's any kind of like herbal or any like if we do decide to vaccinate, 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:44.640 I'm just curious if there's things you can do on the herbal medicine realm or boosting 00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:47.680 immune system or anything like that. 00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:48.680 Right, okay. 00:38:48.680 --> 00:38:54.880 All right, well, it's definitely a controversial subject and one for which we're called anti-vaxxers 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.840 because we have two children and they're both in the same situation. 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:05.000 We never did vaccinate and we don't intend to vaccinate and they're beautiful, healthy 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.880 young children and hopefully they'll stay that way. 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.680 I think we've done shows in the past on vaccines and I know Dr. Peat will speak to it. 00:39:14.680 --> 00:39:23.240 Having had some personal interactions with vaccine, stroke damage and mitigating the 00:39:23.240 --> 00:39:25.240 effects of the condition. 00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:32.680 Dr. Peat, first, how do you feel about anti-vaxxers? 00:39:32.680 --> 00:39:49.640 Oh, I think many of them are far better informed than the doctors who ran against. 00:39:49.640 --> 00:39:58.360 Suzanne Humphreys, for example, I think she was a kidney specialist who noticed that when 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:05.240 your patients were vaccinated at admission, they got worse than the patients who weren't 00:40:05.240 --> 00:40:12.560 vaccinated and she asked the hospital to stop vaccinating her patients and had a fight with 00:40:12.560 --> 00:40:21.400 the hospital officials and decided to specialize studying what happens with vaccinations for 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:22.400 several years. 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.160 So she's really well informed on it. 00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:34.160 And the doctors I see ranting about the anti-vaxxers are generally either totally ignorant and 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:36.160 incompetent or they're lying. 00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:46.400 It's just a very simple question that there have been national waves like an epidemic 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:55.840 of narcolepsy in Finland and another country following a big wave of vaccinations. 00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:04.760 It's well established that the aluminum hydroxide, which is in more than 100 vaccines, is one 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:10.000 of the systemically toxic pro-inflammatory particles. 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:16.640 It's added to the vaccine simply because it arouses a generalized systemic inflammation 00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:26.560 that makes the body react more intensely to whatever antigen related disease might be 00:41:26.560 --> 00:41:27.560 present. 00:41:27.560 --> 00:41:36.000 And that same generalized unfocused inflammatory reaction caused by the particles is exactly 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:41.040 what turns on autoimmunity and other degenerative processes. 00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:42.040 Okay. 00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:48.320 I mean, it's not a short answer to your question, Cora. 00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:52.400 In terms of, okay, so you asked what could be done early. 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.360 I think as appropriate as that is your nutrition. 00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:02.280 Dr. Peat is a big advocate of getting very good whole nutrition. 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:07.600 So your diet is very important and obviously things that lower your metabolic energy like 00:42:07.600 --> 00:42:11.440 the polyunsaturates to be avoided. 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.560 You certainly want to be looking at keeping your bowel clean. 00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:19.720 So you want to be avoiding bread, gluten, etc., those kinds of sources. 00:42:19.720 --> 00:42:26.240 But from an energy point of view, things that support your thyroid, and I'm not just saying 00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:32.280 this is going to protect you against smallpox, you know, if smallpox starts suddenly reappearing. 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:38.200 But basically, I think the metabolic energy of our people has gotten to a point where 00:42:38.200 --> 00:42:42.320 we're on the edge of being sick. 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:47.520 And so I think the vitality of our civilization has definitely decreased with all the environmental 00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:53.840 toxins or pollutants, the rubbish in the food chain and the kind of lifestyles that we've 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.120 engendered by not working like we used to. 00:42:57.120 --> 00:42:59.080 I think it all promotes a weaker organism. 00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:06.400 So urbanly in that regard, there are certainly things that you can do that would be supportive 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.240 of biological energy production. 00:43:09.240 --> 00:43:16.760 I was going to ask Dr. Peat a question about the liver in terms of being responsible for 00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:17.760 metabolizing waste. 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.560 But I know there's another couple of callers on the line here. 00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:24.920 So I want to make sure we get time for them and they can ask Dr. Peat the questions on 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:25.920 that. 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.520 But in terms of being an anti-vacciner, I think one of the most important takeaways 00:43:30.520 --> 00:43:35.760 from the vaccination thing is it's not per se anti-vaccines. 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.840 There are definitely vaccines at work. 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.500 There's no doubt about it. 00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:48.080 But I think what it is, it's just the prevalence and the increasing numbers given simultaneously 00:43:48.080 --> 00:43:49.720 which have really caused the problems. 00:43:49.720 --> 00:43:55.600 And I think it's becoming a machine and very much a profit-driven machine which is actually 00:43:55.600 --> 00:44:04.160 causing the problems, not the altruistic desire from humanitarian doctors to save children 00:44:04.160 --> 00:44:05.160 from disease. 00:44:05.160 --> 00:44:07.840 I don't think anybody wants to avoid that for one second. 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.320 So it's a kind of hot topic and I think I'd probably better leave it there for right now 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.260 because we do have a couple of other callers on the line. 00:44:16.260 --> 00:44:19.680 So next caller, can we get where you're from and what's your question? 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:27.840 Well, one of the callers asked me to ask the doctor how he feels about flax versus fish 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:28.840 oil. 00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:29.840 Probably not much better. 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.160 It's probably not quite as bad. 00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:36.960 Dr. Peat, flax oil versus? 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.080 Much better in some ways. 00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:44.880 But it is slightly more stable than fish oil. 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:50.320 The fish oil luckily is very quickly degraded. 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:58.480 The flax is a little more persistent and so it can be more toxic in the long run. 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:03.080 The other question we had was whether the doctor would recommend bentonite for clay 00:45:03.080 --> 00:45:05.880 for flushing toxins. 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:16.160 You know, the clay is slightly soluble in stomach acid and releases at least a little 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:23.760 aluminum and other toxins and the particles, being very fine particles, are susceptible 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:33.880 to persorption when, especially if your intestine is irritated, the contraction can force these 00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:42.600 particles right into the bloodstream and the particle size can be as much as ten times 00:45:42.600 --> 00:45:49.720 the diameter of a red blood cell and so particles getting into the circulatory system can cause 00:45:49.720 --> 00:45:52.160 considerable microscopic damage. 00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:54.560 Okay, thanks for that. 00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:55.880 There is another caller on the air. 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.240 So let me just let people know that from now until the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're 00:45:59.240 --> 00:46:05.440 invited to call in with questions either related or unrelated to this month's subject of pollution, 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.440 environmental pollution, etc. 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.440 Number 707-923-3911. 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:13.240 Okay, so let's take this next caller. 00:46:13.240 --> 00:46:17.080 Caller, where are you from and what's your question? 00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:18.080 Would that be me? 00:46:18.080 --> 00:46:19.080 Yes, that would be you. 00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:20.080 What's your question and where are you from? 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:21.080 Oh, nice. 00:46:21.080 --> 00:46:26.640 I'm in Phillipsville and I want to thank Dr. Peat for coming on and thank you for bringing 00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:29.000 this wisdom to us. 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:35.800 My question is about there's new research about highly sensitive personalities and excess 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:42.920 cortisol in the bloodstream and I'm wondering what Dr. Peat thinks about people who live 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:48.880 with, you know, gushers of cortisol day to day. 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.320 And yeah, thank you and I'll take that off the air. 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:53.320 Okay. 00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:58.280 Dr. Peat, high cortisol exposure, what do you think is the outcome? 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:06.600 There are lots of things you can do starting with oxidative metabolism, doing things that 00:47:06.600 --> 00:47:14.080 preserve your thyroid function and when your thyroid is functioning efficiently, you can 00:47:14.080 --> 00:47:22.320 turn your cholesterol fairly massively into pregnenolone, progesterone and DHEA, which 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:28.960 are the main opponents of cortisol. 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:35.840 Cortisol stops inflammation but it activates a lot of degenerative breakdown processes 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:43.280 when it isn't backed up by large amounts of these three anti-inflammatory stabilizing 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.440 steroids. 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:53.600 And so thyroid and good nutrition, adequate protein, vitamin A, vitamin D, all of the 00:47:53.600 --> 00:48:03.320 nutrients help you do the conversion to DHEA, progesterone and pregnenolone to block and 00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:07.200 neutralize and reverse the effects of the cortisol. 00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:08.200 Okay. 00:48:08.200 --> 00:48:14.760 All right, Dr. Peat, I wanted to ask you personally what you think about a strategy 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:21.200 to improve the liver's function to metabolize waste. 00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:24.960 Do you think that's, I mean, from a herbal perspective, it's a no-brainer because, you 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.960 know, they would talk about hepatorestoratives, liver supportive herbs, you know, that you 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:35.240 can find studies just everywhere showing that either milk thistle is very helpful for the 00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:41.440 liver or schizandra or any number of bitters or other compounds that are shown to have 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.600 either antioxidant or hepatoprotective effects. 00:48:44.600 --> 00:48:50.240 But what do you think of the rationale of improving the liver's function, I mean, to 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:53.480 metabolize waste and to clear it more efficiently from circulation? 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.520 Do you think that's relevant? 00:48:55.520 --> 00:48:57.520 Oh, yeah. 00:48:57.520 --> 00:49:04.400 And all of the tissues apparently have taste receptors, especially for bitter. 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:11.720 And so the bitters are acting on these particular receptors to have a calming, stabilizing effect 00:49:11.720 --> 00:49:13.480 all through the body. 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:21.600 But the whole energy and protein synthesizing system is involved in detoxifying it. 00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:33.480 It uses glucose or fructose, turning it into both vitamin C in most animals, but in humans 00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:41.120 only to glucuronic acid, which is then attached to toxins for excretion. 00:49:41.120 --> 00:49:49.960 And if you're well nourished, have the B vitamins, adequate carbohydrate and protein, then your 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.880 liver is pretty efficient. 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.920 It can catch toxic substances, especially hydrophobic materials. 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:06.720 It has proteins that can catch massive amounts of these things out of the circulation, holding 00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:15.920 them for as much as 24 hours while the enzymes degrade it, either break it down into other 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:26.080 substances or attach glucuronic acid or sulfate to make it water soluble for excretion. 00:50:26.080 --> 00:50:34.760 And polyunsaturated fatty acids can be processed and excreted in the same way to prevent the 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.120 damage that oxidizing them does. 00:50:37.120 --> 00:50:38.120 All right. 00:50:38.120 --> 00:50:41.400 Now, you mentioned bitters and I just wanted to pick on that quickly because we have another 00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:42.600 caller here. 00:50:42.600 --> 00:50:47.640 So these would be the kind of things that we would traditionally use in the herbal world 00:50:47.640 --> 00:50:55.720 for increasing stomach acid, for pepsin production, to increase digestion and assimilation. 00:50:55.720 --> 00:50:56.720 And reduce inflammation. 00:50:56.720 --> 00:51:00.600 Yeah, you're saying, OK, to reduce it, bitters to reduce inflammation. 00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:04.680 So tell me how you link those two. 00:51:04.680 --> 00:51:13.760 There is a protein, the same that we have in our tongues, the stomach and liver tissue, 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:24.400 various lungs, the whole respiratory system can detect the bitter substance. 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.800 And in doing so, it activates an anti-inflammatory process. 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:29.800 Interesting. 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:30.800 All right. 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:31.800 Let's get this next caller on the air. 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:32.800 Caller, where are you from? 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:33.800 What's your question? 00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.480 I'm Mike from Connecticut. 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.840 And I have a question following up on that point. 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:39.840 Go ahead. 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:45.200 I wanted to have Dr. Peat's view on the use of supplemental digestive enzymes like lipase, 00:51:45.200 --> 00:51:51.720 protease, or peptase to help break down the food and help absorb the nutrients before 00:51:51.720 --> 00:51:55.560 it gets to the gut, to the bacteria that prevent from feeding them. 00:51:55.560 --> 00:51:57.280 Is that of any use? 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.280 OK. 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.600 Are you suffering with any malabsorption or that kind of thing that's got you interested 00:52:02.600 --> 00:52:03.880 in digestive enzymes? 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:10.320 I have a weak digestion, so I usually have troubles in the upper stomach. 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.760 And usually warm, hot foods help. 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.840 Cold foods are a little harsher on my system. 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:16.840 OK. 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.520 Dr. Peat, I know you're a little skeptical on a wide range of supplements. 00:52:20.520 --> 00:52:27.360 But how about digestive enzymes in terms of if there are any good digestive enzymes manufactured 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.600 out there that are, I mean, obviously... 00:52:29.600 --> 00:52:35.880 The traditional thing was basically dehydrated animal pancreas tissue. 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:41.660 And those are so similar to our own enzymes that they really do work. 00:52:41.660 --> 00:52:49.640 But you have to be cautious that because they're simply dehydrated, they are a potential source 00:52:49.640 --> 00:52:50.640 of infection. 00:52:50.640 --> 00:53:02.040 But I'm skeptical about the enzymes derived from fungus because in the same way you can't 00:53:02.040 --> 00:53:03.600 absolutely purify them. 00:53:03.600 --> 00:53:07.400 And so they're going to drag along some of the fungal antigens. 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:15.440 And you have to watch out for allergic reactions because if you're sensitive to the fungus 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.760 antigens, you might react to their enzymes. 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:20.760 OK. 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:24.360 I know that we used to produce a product called... 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.040 Well, actually we had two. 00:53:28.040 --> 00:53:35.520 We had digestive bitters, which was an herb extract from about nine different herbs. 00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:37.360 And this is for the corner. 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:42.840 That were based on the Swedish bitters. 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:46.400 And then, so they were mainly the bitters that we mentioned, Dr. Peat mentioned, that 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:54.080 would stimulate stomach acid production, pepsin, lipase, you know, it get the stomach moving 00:53:54.080 --> 00:53:56.800 and other things to break down fats, etc., etc. 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:02.920 And I've got some very good feedback when we were producing this product. 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:10.540 So I think herbally, it's always the rationale there to use bitters, using the taste receptors 00:54:10.540 --> 00:54:17.280 as a physiological trigger to increase motility and production of enzymes. 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.880 And these would certainly be beneficial. 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:27.240 I find people, when I consult with them, have widely differing results with digestive enzymes. 00:54:27.240 --> 00:54:33.080 But I do find a lot of the bitter herbs in the armament of herbal medicine actually very 00:54:33.080 --> 00:54:37.680 effective for poor digestion or fat malabsorption, etc. 00:54:37.680 --> 00:54:38.680 Great. 00:54:38.680 --> 00:54:39.680 I'll look into it. 00:54:39.680 --> 00:54:40.680 Thank you. 00:54:40.680 --> 00:54:41.680 Yeah. 00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:42.680 Thank you for your call. 00:54:42.680 --> 00:54:43.680 Okay. 00:54:43.680 --> 00:54:45.160 So, Dr. Peat, I had a couple, let's do a quick question. 00:54:45.160 --> 00:54:52.400 I wanted to know, okay, probably too big for the last couple of minutes we have. 00:54:52.400 --> 00:55:01.540 But just looking at the political will of the governments to do the right thing in terms 00:55:01.540 --> 00:55:09.400 of, I saw that a figure that coal-fired power plants are actually on a decline, surprisingly, 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.760 although I know the current administration had vowed to increase them from the previous 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.800 administration's will to reduce them. 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:23.120 But that the developing countries like China and Asia and India especially are starting 00:55:23.120 --> 00:55:28.520 to produce lots of power stations to get their economies going because that's just the way 00:55:28.520 --> 00:55:30.460 it's been done traditionally. 00:55:30.460 --> 00:55:34.380 What do you think about the political will to make the world a cleaner place? 00:55:34.380 --> 00:55:37.720 If you can answer that in one minute or so, that would be great. 00:55:37.720 --> 00:55:44.840 I can mention a book that is very important on that issue called The Politics of Cancer 00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:52.680 by Samuel Epstein, written in 1978 with publication date. 00:55:52.680 --> 00:56:02.920 And he shows that the knowledge of how to prevent most cancer has been around for almost 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:11.240 a hundred years, but the corporations that pollute run the government agencies. 00:56:11.240 --> 00:56:18.000 And the agencies that you would think should be protecting the public, American Cancer 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:26.880 Society, National Cancer Institute, many research organizations and universities are funded 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:33.920 so generously by the polluting industries that they are working against the public, 00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:40.840 even though the public pays them, pays the government and these foundations supposedly 00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:50.240 for their protection, actually, that they're simply perpetuating the polluting. 00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:51.240 Depressing. 00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:52.240 Depressing. 00:56:52.240 --> 00:57:00.280 Well, let's, on that note, let's let everyone be reminded, The Politics of Cancer, if I've 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:05.720 got that right, by Samuel Epstein, could be well worth looking at on the internet. 00:57:05.720 --> 00:57:08.000 Maybe get a copy of it and read it. 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.280 Probably really educate yourself about what Dr. Peat's just mentioned about the mechanism 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:13.280 of it all. 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.280 Thank you so much for your time, Dr. Peat. 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.640 Okay, thank you. 00:57:16.640 --> 00:57:21.000 Okay, so for those people that have listened to the show and want to find out more about 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:30.280 Dr. Peat's papers, his research, his written works, etc., www.rayPeat.com. 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:35.240 And for people who want to find out more about myself and our business, it's Western Botanical 00:57:35.240 --> 00:57:36.240 Medicine. 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:41.720 I want to make people aware that there's going to be an Instagram page launched here, hopefully 00:57:41.720 --> 00:57:48.120 within the next six weeks to two months at the most, about Dr. Peat's work and put it 00:57:48.120 --> 00:57:53.400 in audio clips that we have produced since 2007 so that it's actually the words he's 00:57:53.400 --> 00:58:00.160 saying because I find a lot of misconstrued information on other, supposedly, Dr. Peat 00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:01.400 advocating sites. 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:05.740 So I want to set the record straight and that will be on an Instagram page called Western 00:58:05.740 --> 00:58:08.600 Botanical Medicine, I think, at this point. 00:58:08.600 --> 00:58:10.000 And thanks so much for listening. 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.040 Until the third Friday of next month, good night.