WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.400 Well, welcome once again to this month's Ask Your Ab Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:12.560 As always, for those who have tuned in and have not listened to the show before, we broadcast every third Friday of the month from 7 to 8 p.m. 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:15.720 on KMU DeGarboville 91.1 FM. 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:19.280 We're discussing a wide range of alternative medicines, 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:25.880 health topics related to alternatives, and I'm very pleased as always to have Dr. Raymond Peat join us once more. 00:00:26.200 --> 00:00:31.040 For those who may not know you, Dr. Peat, would you please give our listeners a rundown of your 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:35.240 academic and professional background before we introduce our next guest? 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:43.360 After studying and teaching the humanities and linguistics and various things, 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:46.320 except biology, 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.280 before 1968, then I went to graduate school in biology to get a PhD 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.600 1972 and 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:57.880 specialized in 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:03.920 aging physiology of reproduction, but in general studied physiology and biochemistry 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.640 and since then have been 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.600 doing short courses and counseling and such. 00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:14.800 Okay, excellent. All right, and this month, 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:21.000 very specially, I'm very pleased to welcome a second generation. Well, actually, that's not true. 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:27.160 I've called her a second generation medical herbalist because I didn't understand her father's actual background before. 00:01:27.160 --> 00:01:29.320 But anyway, 00:01:29.320 --> 00:01:36.480 Sophie Lam, daughter of distinguished medical herbalist Brian Lam. Welcome to the show, Sophie. Thank you so much. I'm so delighted to be here. 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.240 So, 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:46.040 let me let me ask you this. I've always called you a second generation herbalist, but actually your father's background is... 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:53.560 Well, my father's background is there's about four generations of doctors and surgeons going back about 200 years and 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.400 although they were 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:00.560 surgeons and doctors, a big part of the medicines that they used at the time was herbal medicine, 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.160 so they had their apothecaries at lot alongside their surgeries. 00:02:04.160 --> 00:02:08.200 Okay, I know I know Brian. He's 82 now. 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:16.120 He qualified, I think I think I'm right in saying he qualified in 1978 from what was then 00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:18.480 the School of Herbal Medicine 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:23.720 before the degrees came into place and the the honors degrees that were given to herbal medicines. 00:02:23.720 --> 00:02:26.640 And he's been in full-time practice since and he also 00:02:26.640 --> 00:02:35.280 manufactures a wide range of fluid extracts, syrups and some time-honored recipes using medicinal herbs and 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:42.160 he has a fairly busy practice as well as working day to day. He does. He's so amazing. 00:02:42.160 --> 00:02:49.120 So he's nearly 82 and he works full-time, gets up very early with the birds and goes, you know, works all day long and 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.200 I'm just amazed at the energy he still has at his age. 00:02:52.200 --> 00:02:56.120 And I think it's driven by the passion that he has for his job, the love he has for the herbs, 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:01.000 the fact that he's 82 and is still discovering and exploring so much because 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.240 it's something you could study for a lifetime and still not 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:11.280 extinguish all there is to know. So yeah, he's driven by passion, I think. Absolutely. And he's 00:03:12.040 --> 00:03:20.040 excuse me, like Dr. Peake, people that listen to Dr. Peake can clearly hear he's very, excuse me, scientifically grounded in 00:03:20.040 --> 00:03:23.680 what he's discussing. Although sometimes his 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:30.160 explanation is different from what would be a typical understanding of it and that's because he knows something different. 00:03:30.160 --> 00:03:37.360 Your father also, he's very much into the science in herbal medicine, isn't he? Oh, he's really into the science. 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:43.040 I mean, he spends a lot, I mean when he's not actually physically preparing herbs or seeing patients or working in a dispensary, 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:47.720 he's researching, he spends lots and lots of time researching still. 00:03:47.720 --> 00:03:52.800 Yeah, and he loves that. Now, am I right in thinking that he, I 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:58.880 don't know for how long, but he came to the America and working for a Utah company developing some products for them? 00:03:58.880 --> 00:04:00.880 Yeah, so he's to 00:04:01.160 --> 00:04:06.120 to America giving lectures on herbal applications for cosmetics and 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:14.040 he's worked for a few network marketing companies designing herbal products for them and supplements and encapsulating them 00:04:14.040 --> 00:04:20.400 and making them work for a large-scale company. Yeah, so do you know how long that was again? 00:04:20.400 --> 00:04:26.680 He spent how? Well, I know that he, how long ago was that? No, no, how many years he's been doing this for? 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:31.920 I think it must have stretched over about 10 years. Yeah, okay good. So Sophie, 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:37.000 Winter coughs, colds, preparations are some favorites. 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:41.880 Let's get an idea of what it was like growing up in a household 00:04:41.880 --> 00:04:45.280 on the northernmost tip of Scotland 00:04:45.280 --> 00:04:52.240 with an herbalist as a father. Okay, well, where there's, so I have three sisters, there's four of us daughters together, 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.240 so when you have four young children growing up, 00:04:54.760 --> 00:04:59.080 typically speaking, young children develop coughs and chest infections, and that was definitely the case with us. 00:04:59.080 --> 00:05:03.880 It may have been made worse by the fact that we're growing up in the most, we're on the top of the map of the 00:05:03.880 --> 00:05:06.320 UK, so our home looks over the Orkney Islands. 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:11.840 Right at the very top, but really, really incredible herbs grow locally and are very specific to this area. 00:05:11.840 --> 00:05:19.080 So we, we have an agar in the kitchen and my childhood memories are full of 00:05:19.080 --> 00:05:23.920 herbs drying on top and syrups being made at the side of the agar and 00:05:24.520 --> 00:05:31.560 yeah, so we all actually had whooping cough as children, all four of us, I believe, but my sister, my elder sister had it the worst and 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:37.200 what dad did for her and he did for all of us was he sliced up thin slices of garlic, 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:40.520 smeared the soles of her feet with Vaseline and 00:05:40.520 --> 00:05:44.320 applied thin slices of garlic to the soles of her feet and 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:48.680 applied and wrapped around cling film and applied a sock. He would have left it on for a few minutes, 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.680 I'm not sure how long, because obviously after a time garlic can actually burn, so you don't want to leave it on for too long, 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.120 but you know within a few minutes the 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:01.040 essential oils have gone up, the volatile oils have gone up through the bloodstream and you're breathing out garlic and 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.880 that's what shortened the duration and severity of our whooping cough as children. 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:07.440 We used to pick Tosolago, 00:06:07.440 --> 00:06:12.720 Coltsfoot, and it makes the most incredible syrup because the flowers themselves smell of honey, 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:17.560 but by the side of the agar we'd do a layer of, and I mean all four of us were 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.880 lured out to the hills and to the sand dunes and moors 00:06:21.400 --> 00:06:26.160 picking herbs, or lured out by a quarter of a snicker bar each, because in those days we weren't given chocolate, and 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:32.040 we'd pick sackfuls of these herbs and go home, we'd do a layer of flowers, layer of sugar, a layer of flowers, 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:36.240 they'd macerate by the side of the hot agar and we'd have the most incredible syrup. 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:42.400 One of the things that my dad is most well known for is he makes an incredible thyme syrup. 00:06:42.400 --> 00:06:45.640 And thyme, I mean, thyme 00:06:45.640 --> 00:06:49.280 as a herb fits the need of the lungs like a glove. 00:06:49.760 --> 00:06:56.880 It's an antitussive, so it reduces the cough reflex, it's anti-edema on the lungs when you get swelling of the lungs, 00:06:56.880 --> 00:07:03.440 it's expectorant, it helps you spit out the mucus, and it's antiseptic, and he makes an incredible syrup 00:07:03.440 --> 00:07:06.760 using de-slide water, which in itself is a healing water, and molasses. 00:07:06.760 --> 00:07:14.720 That's interesting, actually. Your father actually uses a specific water. I think you should speak about that for a little bit. 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.040 Well, all of his extracts are made using 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:25.080 de-slide water. Now, de-slide is a well or a spring which comes from the Pannanock Hills around Aberdeenshire, I believe. 00:07:25.080 --> 00:07:31.080 My dad actually worked as a consultant for this water company because he understands water very well, and that water is not just water. 00:07:31.080 --> 00:07:37.080 Different waters have different values and properties, because my dad's also an engineer before he was a herbalist, and he's very scientific. 00:07:37.080 --> 00:07:44.080 So, people, so the royalties, royal families, who travel to this area of Scotland to make their own herbalist, 00:07:44.080 --> 00:07:54.080 they drink the healing water, this de-slide water, and my dad actually extracts all of his herbs in this de-slide water. 00:07:54.080 --> 00:08:03.080 How far away, because your home is up in a place called Thurso, which is the very northernmost point of Scotland. 00:08:03.080 --> 00:08:06.080 How far away is Deeside from Thurso? 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:08.080 So, it would be about a five-hour drive south. 00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:18.080 Five hours, okay. All right, good. Well, you're listening to Ask Your Herb, Dr. K. M. E. D. Galbraith, 91.1 FM, from 7.30 until 8 o'clock. 00:08:18.080 --> 00:08:26.080 Listeners are invited to call in with questions, any questions they might want to pose Sophie, as well as Dr. Peat, who is on the line 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:31.080 and is going to be joining us and interjecting. We're going to be questioning him about some of the science, 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:34.080 about some of these things that Sophie's going to talk about. 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:41.080 I did want to say that a little bit of the background, just for people that are listening, 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.080 in terms of England's law and herbal medicine and it being protected. 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:56.080 In 1154, Henry II institutionalized common law, and it's been the basis of the legal systems of England, Wales, Northern Ireland, 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:00.080 and Ireland, plus many other countries around the world, until the present time. 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:06.080 And common law is based on the premise that everything is legal unless it's deemed illegal. 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:11.080 Pretty straightforward, huh? Now, herbal medicine throughout history has always been protected under common law. 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:19.080 However, in 1542, the medical profession at that time wanted to prevent herbalists from practicing. 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:24.080 Fortunately, Henry VIII, as an avid user of herbs, came to the rescue and implemented the herbalist charter, 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.080 which underpinned the herbalist's right to practice, and anyone with knowledge of herbs could continue to use them. 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:37.080 Quoting from the text, "That at all time, from henceforth, it shall be lawful to every person being the king's subject, 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.080 having knowledge and experience of the nature of herbs, roots, and waters." 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:52.080 And Nicholas Culpeper, in 1616 to 1654, was an apothecary who lived in a time when fees paid or charged by the medical professionals 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:57.080 were out of the reach of the general public. So Culpeper translated the medical texts from Latin to English 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:04.080 and sold copies at a low price to the apothecaries and anyone who could read so that they could use these life-saving works. 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:12.080 Henry VIII and Culpeper saved herbal medicine for the people, and thanks to the work in England of Fred Fletcher Hyde and other herbalists, 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:18.080 the 1968 Medicines Act allowed herbalists to continue to prescribe and prepare herbal medicines 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.080 under Section 12, Part 1, and Section 12, Part 2 of this Act. 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:29.080 However, with the current relationship with the European Union, European law is now having a profound influence 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:34.080 on the daily lives of herbalists, including the jurisdiction of herbal medicine. 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:40.080 European law is founded on Napoleonic law, not common law, and Napoleonic law is based on the premise 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:46.080 that everything is illegal unless it is deemed legal. So completely back to front. 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:53.080 Anyway, I know that the National Institute of Medical Herbalists is still working fairly tirelessly 00:10:53.080 --> 00:11:00.080 to keep the practice out of the reach of exclusion from the Brussels establishment, 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:04.080 and I think you're probably, you're a member of the National Institute of Medical Herbalists, aren't you? 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:07.080 No. MCP? Yeah. Right. 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:12.080 Okay, in England there's two authoritative bodies on herbal medicine. 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:17.080 The National Institute of Medical Herbalists, which I think is founded in 1864, 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:24.080 and then the College of Practicing Phytotherapists, which actually is probably more allied to the European ESCOP, 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.080 the European Society on Pharmacopoeia. Good. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:35.080 Okay, so again, this mirrors a kind of restriction and influence one system of medicine has against another, 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:41.080 limiting freedom of choice to the patient. We're not quite there, both in the UK and the US, 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:46.080 but as we've mentioned many times in past shows here on KMUD, 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:51.080 the overreaching corporations in tandem with government and lobbyists are seeking to eliminate 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:56.080 any competition in favour of monopoly in the hands of the pharmaceutical and medical industries. 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:03.080 It's only by the power of "we the people" speaking out against any restrictive legislation that this will be avoided. 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:08.080 A good example is the current legislation now forcing vaccination on the people using the law 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:13.080 to monopolise profits in the name of the greater good, when the very industry producing vaccines 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:20.080 is indemnified by law against punitive damages when individuals are crippled or killed by adverse drug events, 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:25.080 many of which are clearly identified as the adjuvants within vaccines, like aluminum for example. 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:30.080 It's one thing to produce safe, effective vaccines and quite another to manufacture drugs 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:34.080 which have been linked to autism and other neurological impairment. 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:38.080 We have spoken about this at a fairly good length. 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:46.080 Dr. Peat, on the subject of autism, I wanted to ask Sophie the same question afterwards 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.080 and then get your feedback about the answer that she's going to have, which I haven't really asked her at this point, 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.080 I'm not too sure what she's going to say and I definitely don't know what you're going to say. 00:12:55.080 --> 00:13:00.080 But what do you see as a safe approach to helping the autistic child and what do you see as a cause? 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:10.080 I think just about anything harmful to the parents, especially the mother, and especially during pregnancy, 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:17.080 almost any environmental harm is going to increase the rate of autism. 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:23.080 For example, environmental estrogens and things that cause hypothyroidism, 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:31.080 things that cause obesity are known to be causes of autism. 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:39.080 But I think, for example, in Texas there was a study showing that Latino kids, 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:46.080 especially Mexican immigrants, were at a much lower rate of autism 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:53.080 than the well medicalized white residents. 00:13:53.080 --> 00:14:05.080 I think a major source of adversity during pregnancy is what John Goffman saw 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:11.080 was the major cause of breast cancer and heart disease in the United States, 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:17.080 namely medical radiation or medicalization in general in the case of autism, 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:25.080 including too many x-ray exams for the mother, too many treatments in general, 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:33.080 including bad thyroid therapy, bad endocrine therapy, and the use of many toxic drugs. 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:45.080 And touching has been identified as one of the things that makes kids' emotional system 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.080 and nervous system develop properly. 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:59.080 And there has been a kind of a culture of ignoring the babies in the standard American culture. 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:05.080 And Latinos, they are very touchy compared to the Anglo population. 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.080 So I think there are lots of causes. 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:17.080 And enriching the environment, removing toxins, and improving the thyroid and progesterone 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:22.080 of the person's system, all of the endocrine system, 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:29.080 can be modified and improved to a remedy to some extent, at least the autistic. 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:37.080 Okay, Sophie, I wanted to ask you the same kind of thing and then anecdotal evidence. 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:44.080 Yeah, I have a couple of friends whose children have been quite severely autistic at some point. 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:48.080 And my friends have actually been incredibly dedicated. 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:53.080 They've been very dedicated mothers, but they've been very dedicated to bringing their children on 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:59.080 as far as they can to help to incorporate them into mainstream education 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.080 and just have a better hope for their futures. 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:05.080 And they've done a really great job of this, and they've definitely focused on their diets 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:10.080 and on their gut health because with both of these children I can think of, 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:15.080 their digestive habits or their bowel motions have been disturbed. 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:23.080 And one friend I can think of in particular, when her autistic son used to go into what's called stemming, 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.080 which is repetitive physical movements like jumping up and down on the spot 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:35.080 and acting kind of more hyperactively and less responsive to his mother, 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:42.080 she used to visit a pediatrician, and this pediatrician used to prescribe her son a strong antifungal 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:47.080 because it was suspected that he had a huge fungal overgrowth, 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:52.080 which was almost creating an alcoholic syndrome, or he was producing a lot of alcohol in his system. 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:59.080 And the antifungals would hugely modify his behavior and help him take him on in leaps and bounds. 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:07.080 Dr. Peat, what do you think about that, the presence of gut organisms that metabolize carbohydrates, 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:10.080 producing ethanol, and how that could impact? 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:22.080 Yeah, the intestinal flora produce lots of toxins, but the yeast in particular produce both alcohol and estrogen. 00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:28.080 And the estrogen is I think more toxic than the alcohol. 00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:34.080 Okay, there you go. Okay, Sophie, sleep disturbance then. 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:41.080 And it's a very common presentation that I think a lot of verbalists get consulted about. 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:47.080 Do you see many people with insomnia or other disturbances in sleep, and what do you treat this with? 00:17:47.080 --> 00:17:54.080 Well, I do now because I've been sort of spoken about as a bit of a sleep expert, but I have to thank Dr. Peat for that. 00:17:54.080 --> 00:17:59.080 I was an eight-year insomniac, a rather severe insomniac. 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:05.080 It was an extremely depressing and debilitating condition and situation to be in for such a long period of time. 00:18:05.080 --> 00:18:12.080 And when I re-hooked up and managed to speak to Sarah, your wife, and you about it properly, 00:18:12.080 --> 00:18:18.080 you taught me about how Dr. Peat views insomnia. 00:18:18.080 --> 00:18:23.080 And then I started to learn the actual genuine, the true physiological approach to insomnia 00:18:23.080 --> 00:18:26.080 is that if you can get your stress hormones down, you're most likely going to sleep well. 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:31.080 I was a chronic under-eater, not intentionally necessarily, but because when you're chronically stressed, 00:18:31.080 --> 00:18:33.080 you have a chronically depressed appetite. 00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:38.080 So I would say I was a chronic under-eater or chronically calorie-deficit. 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:44.080 And then I started to learn about sugars, about carbohydrates, about the right types of sugars to lay down as glycogen, 00:18:44.080 --> 00:18:48.080 that if we're really healthy and if our thyroid's helping us lay down glycogen, 00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:52.080 we should be able to, or healthy individuals should be able to get an eight-hour sleep 00:18:52.080 --> 00:18:58.080 because that eight-hour glycogen store feeds our active brain through the night. 00:18:58.080 --> 00:19:04.080 And a very, very key point of understanding insomnia is to understand, first of all, that sleep is an active process. 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:06.080 It is not a passive process. 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:09.080 Our brain does a huge amount of repair. 00:19:09.080 --> 00:19:12.080 Our brain shrinks, and we go into a deep rinse cycle. 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:14.080 It's a very active process. 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:16.080 And Dr. Peat might want to correct me on this. 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:20.080 I think that the brain uses about 100 grams of glucose through the night. 00:19:20.080 --> 00:19:27.080 So obviously and apparently to energize that active process of healing, we need to supply the brain with glucose. 00:19:27.080 --> 00:19:37.080 And if we've not laid down enough glycogen during the day to sleep well at night for our brain to be able to dip into that reserve, 00:19:37.080 --> 00:19:46.080 we're going to get a rise in stress hormones, which will catabolize our fat and our muscle to deliver that energy for the brain. 00:19:46.080 --> 00:19:52.080 And of course, a side effect to stress hormones or cortisol and adrenaline is mental alertness, which you don't want at night. 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:59.080 So you've got to view insomnia actually as a daytime disorder which is presenting itself at night. 00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:04.080 Dr. Peat, what do you speak to in terms of the liver's ability to store glycogen 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:08.080 and any impairment in that which would trigger insomnia? 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:17.080 Thyroid is the essential thing for being able to store glucose in the form of glycogen in the liver in particular. 00:20:17.080 --> 00:20:22.080 But the muscles are a major reservoir too besides the liver. 00:20:22.080 --> 00:20:29.080 And the brain itself stores, when conditions are good, stores quite a bit of glycogen locally. 00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:39.080 And when you run out of glycogen in your brain, muscles, and liver, you mobilize free fatty acids out of stores. 00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:49.080 And the free fatty acids create the condition of diabetes in the brain as well as throughout the body. 00:20:49.080 --> 00:21:08.080 It turns off brain metabolism by essentially poisoning the mitochondria, blocking the ability to use any glucose that your body produces by breaking down protein with the stress hormones. 00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:11.080 So in the UK and I'm sure in America as well, it's the same. 00:21:11.080 --> 00:21:17.080 We're under this impossible situation where we're all told to keep carbohydrates and avoid sugar. 00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:24.080 And some particularly health conscious mothers even try and avoid fructose and fruits for their children, especially fruit juice. 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:27.080 And adults are avoiding salt. And you've got a perfect storm for insomnia. 00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:32.080 So first of all, if I have a patient with insomnia, the first place I look at is diet and the second place I look at is herbs. 00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:33.080 There you go. 00:21:33.080 --> 00:21:44.080 All right. So Sophie, getting back to the kind of foundation of your background, you know, with your father being a noblest, 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:48.080 did you say that it was three or four generations that he was? 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:51.080 Well, I know it goes back about 200 years. I'm pretty sure it's four generations. 00:21:51.080 --> 00:21:52.080 It's on my TED talk. 00:21:52.080 --> 00:21:55.080 OK, there you go. Well, let's talk about that very briefly then. 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:59.080 Your TED talk, I think everybody who's listening has probably heard of TED talks. 00:21:59.080 --> 00:22:04.080 Now, they do in all sorts of different countries and they're a wide range of subjects. 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:09.080 So tell us a little bit about your TED talk, what you did and where it was and how. 00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:17.080 Well, I gave a TED talk with my sister Naomi and the title was Why We Are Dependent on Plants for Medicine. 00:22:17.080 --> 00:22:26.080 We were given an opportunity to do a TED talk and I felt the most important thing for me as a herbalist anyway was to reconnect and reconnect the dots of people. 00:22:26.080 --> 00:22:33.080 People often think that herbs are some kind of archaic system or even something to be degraded like, you know, as witchcraft or something. 00:22:33.080 --> 00:22:37.080 Whereas actually it forms a bedrock of our most important medicine. 00:22:37.080 --> 00:22:46.080 So the medicines on the essential medicines list of the World Health Organization, a significant proportion of those drugs are based on herbs. 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:50.080 We would not have those herbs if it weren't for the discoveries in plants. 00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:52.080 So what comes to your mind? 00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:58.080 Well, the first thing that comes to my mind is morphine, because I mean, if you think about what people have gone through with the Second World War, 00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:04.080 I'm not sure if it was available in the First World War, it's tended to the wounds and grotesque injuries of wars. 00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:09.080 There's nothing that rivals morphine still as an analgesic. 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:15.080 And then you think about the lidocaine, novocaine that was discovered from coca leaves. 00:23:15.080 --> 00:23:18.080 Then I think about aspirin, which I love. 00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:22.080 You think about the diabetes medicine from Goiga. 00:23:22.080 --> 00:23:24.080 What is that? I can't remember the name of that drug. 00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:25.080 Metformin. 00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:29.080 Yeah, so metformin that has its origins in goat's roe. 00:23:29.080 --> 00:23:36.080 You think about 90% of our chemotherapeutic drugs have their foundations in plants and natural. 00:23:36.080 --> 00:23:38.080 Yeah, taxol from the European Yew tree. 00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:39.080 And vinca. 00:23:39.080 --> 00:23:42.080 And vinca, vinblastine, great periwinkle. 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:50.080 I mean, so I feel that for me personally, it's very important to get that message out there that you look out to those fields and you're walking past essential medicines. 00:23:50.080 --> 00:24:00.080 Right. And I think, again, I know when we were discussing the outline of the show on the way in, because you didn't show back up again. 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:01.080 You've been out all day long. 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:08.080 But basically I drew up a guideline here of questions and answers and things that I wanted to get Dr. Peat's perspective on. 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:11.080 I know that you have how long have you been? Is it eight years or so? 00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:15.080 How long has it been you discovered that sugar wasn't bad for you and the whole thing turned around? 00:24:15.080 --> 00:24:16.080 Eight years. 00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:17.080 Eight years ago, right. 00:24:17.080 --> 00:24:35.080 So quickly talk to me about how you implement what you've learned from Dr. Peat and everything that Sarah will have discussed with you, because I know you two are in dialogue pretty constantly by email going backwards and forwards with different patients and talking about them and how, you know, the success and what to do next and all the rest of it. 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:36.080 How I implement personally. 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:50.080 Yeah. As an herbalist, a daughter of an herbalist of 200 year old succession of people that are doctors, you know, herbal medicine was your be all. 00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:51.080 Yeah, it was. 00:24:51.080 --> 00:24:58.080 And I think I'm fair in saying that there is no one modality to cure any body. 00:24:58.080 --> 00:25:01.080 It's a multi, multi complex situation. 00:25:01.080 --> 00:25:20.080 So whether it's herbs, whether it's certain chemicals that are, you know, drugs that are very helpful, whether it's, you know, red light, whether it's sound, whether it's, you know, there's many different modalities that can really be brought together by a good practitioner to get the best result. 00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:21.080 Possible. 00:25:21.080 --> 00:25:34.080 And when you were practicing, obviously, you would have got your knowledge from the same course, the same university and obviously from the whole background of your father having grown up in it since you were born. 00:25:34.080 --> 00:25:55.080 Tell me some of the differences perhaps or maybe some of the cases that you've come to and maybe hit a wall after which treating and looking at a different angle to it or using a different compound in conjunction with herbs with or without how that's changed your practice. 00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:57.080 Oh, how it changed my practice. 00:25:57.080 --> 00:26:07.080 Okay, well, now what I do with my patients is I help them remove the good and bad tags they have all over all sorts of foods because they're often very misplaced. 00:26:07.080 --> 00:26:09.080 And the problem with that, what that does is it stops them eating. 00:26:09.080 --> 00:26:12.080 The bad tags you mean like brainwashing that's associated with it? 00:26:12.080 --> 00:26:13.080 Well, you know, sugar's bad. 00:26:13.080 --> 00:26:14.080 Right. 00:26:14.080 --> 00:26:15.080 Salt's bad. 00:26:15.080 --> 00:26:19.080 Yeah, sugar's bad, salt's bad, vegetable oil good, margarine good, butter bad, all that kind of stuff. 00:26:19.080 --> 00:26:30.080 Because actually what that's done, I think one of the worst things that that's done is it's removed people's instinctive eatings, where it was instinctive, you know, leading of how they eat. 00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:42.080 You know, they may well be hungry and they may well be craving salt but still resisting that desire to eat salt and the same with sugar and, you know, not so much protein because that doesn't have that bad tag attached to it. 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:50.080 But they're denying themselves their basic physiological needs because they have this perception that food is bad and I think that's one of the worst things that's come out of it. 00:26:50.080 --> 00:27:02.080 Dr. Peat, what have you got to say about that in terms of sugar and salt and what you believe is the kind of undoing of the instinctual craving for it? 00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:12.080 Oh, those doctrines against them were distinctly created by the pharmaceutical industry. 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:28.080 When they came out with new diuretics around 1950, they convinced doctors that pregnant women had to use them because it would prevent weight gain and water retention in pregnancy. 00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:40.080 And just absolute fabulation, making up diseases that didn't exist so they could sell their product. 00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:52.080 And in the process, they destroyed many, many pregnancies in the United States with their salt restriction plus diuretics. 00:27:52.080 --> 00:28:04.080 And the sugar thing appeared around the same time with the marketing of the polyunsaturated vegetable oils. 00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:29.080 Those were defined as essential and so the food industry first promoted them as medicinal in great quantity, 100 times more than any possible theoretical essentiality would indicate. 00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:41.080 But they were promoted to lower cholesterol, but then a doctor showed that sugar raises cholesterol. 00:28:41.080 --> 00:29:08.080 So the food industry created the cholesterol myth to sell their polyunsaturated oils and then to explain away heart disease and the elevated cholesterol, which really is the result of hypothyroidism, almost all of it. 00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:20.080 The ban on sugar to lower, prevent heart disease was promoted all through the 60s and 70s. 00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:41.080 Again, the insulin industry and the drug alternatives to insulin were promoted along with basically a sugar-free diet, teaching people that sugar causes diabetes. 00:29:41.080 --> 00:29:47.080 Yeah, and then again, of course, there's a whole sugar feeds cancer misdirection. 00:29:47.080 --> 00:29:52.080 Sophie, what are fish oils doing in Europe and in England now? 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:59.080 I mean, are they still really advertised as really healthful and your patients are always talking about how good the fish oils are? 00:29:59.080 --> 00:30:04.080 You probably set them right, but what do you think the general current thinking is? 00:30:04.080 --> 00:30:08.080 Yeah, I tend to steer them away, but the buoyant, definitely still very buoyant. 00:30:08.080 --> 00:30:17.080 But interestingly, last year a newspaper published a study linking fish oils with liver disease. 00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:20.080 I think actually scarring of the liver as far as I remember. 00:30:20.080 --> 00:30:24.080 And I think that hit a mainstream newspaper last year in England. 00:30:24.080 --> 00:30:37.080 I wonder, Dr. Peat, you probably have something to say about liver scarring and fish oil consumption from a physiological perspective or even an anecdotal perspective. 00:30:37.080 --> 00:30:47.080 Yeah, lots of stresses contribute, but definitely not good foods like saturated fats and sugar. 00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:53.080 Okay. All right. You're listening to Ask Europe's Dr. K. M. Udgar, 91.1 FM. 00:30:53.080 --> 00:31:00.080 From now until 8 o'clock, callers are invited to call in with any questions either for Dr. Peat and/or Sophie. 00:31:00.080 --> 00:31:10.080 And the number, if you live in the area or if you live outside the area or outside the country, is area code 707-923-3911. 00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:17.080 So that's 707-923-3911. Questions any time from now until 8. 00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:23.080 I think we have a caller on the line already. Caller, you're on the air. What's your name? Where are you from? And what's your question? 00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:25.080 Jeff from Long Island. 00:31:25.080 --> 00:31:26.080 Hey, Jeff. 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:30.080 I have two questions for Dr. Peat. 00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:41.080 One, the soils that plants are grown in obviously don't have the same minerals that they used to, as we all know. 00:31:41.080 --> 00:31:56.080 And there's a couple of products that have gotten a lot of attention, fulvic and humic acids, which apparently are coming from rock formations that are very old. 00:31:56.080 --> 00:32:06.080 Are you familiar with those and whether the enzymes and the natural minerals associated with those are complementary and beneficial in any way? 00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:09.080 No, I think they're mildly harmful. 00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:11.080 Because? 00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:21.080 To the extent that they break down, they can be absorbed and release toxic things. 00:32:21.080 --> 00:32:37.080 Any minerals such as magnesium and trace minerals would be beneficial, but the substance fulvic acid and humic acid are not in themselves safe. 00:32:37.080 --> 00:32:42.080 Okay, are there studies on that or is that just a gut feel that you have? 00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:45.080 Is that something you've done research on in the past? 00:32:45.080 --> 00:32:51.080 No, you can find articles on PubMed. 00:32:51.080 --> 00:32:54.080 Yeah, the articles I've found have all been actually favorable. 00:32:54.080 --> 00:33:07.080 The reason I mention it and I'm pushing it a little bit is because I am actually the same person who told you that I had a skin rash on the insides of my armpits and elbows for literally, it went on for 12 months. 00:33:07.080 --> 00:33:08.080 I mean literally 12 months. 00:33:08.080 --> 00:33:13.080 They told me to take cortisone, which I didn't want to do. 00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:22.080 So the suggestions you've refreshed were taking the salt baths with baking soda, which I think was very helpful. 00:33:22.080 --> 00:33:26.080 CO2, I think you mentioned vitamin D. 00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:30.080 So I did some of that stuff and it was very helpful. 00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:42.080 But I must say, I believe the fulvic and humic acids, which I took more recently, have actually improved the assimilation and the enzymatic absorption of all nutrients that I consume. 00:33:42.080 --> 00:33:44.080 I really do believe that. 00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:49.080 It's actually a lot of articles are very positive on it. 00:33:49.080 --> 00:33:56.080 Now maybe there are some mixtures that are toxic relative to others, but I strongly believe in that. 00:33:56.080 --> 00:33:58.080 But anyway, okay, so that's one. 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:05.080 I actually would love to see if you write up on that and actually can reference specific articles that describe the damage that can be done by them. 00:34:05.080 --> 00:34:06.080 I'd be really curious. 00:34:06.080 --> 00:34:11.080 But I found in personal experience that it might just actually be the opposite. 00:34:11.080 --> 00:34:15.080 Anyway, the other question I have relates to thyroid. 00:34:15.080 --> 00:34:26.080 I think at one point we discussed the fact that it's not -- compared to an adrenal gland, which apparently can repair itself on its own, the same is true of any gland, including the thyroid gland. 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:40.080 But the bigger, more complicated issue I think we discussed was it's more important because PUFA and other issues may affect the production, transport, conversion, and uptake of T3 into the cell. 00:34:40.080 --> 00:35:01.080 And so I guess my question specifically is if someone is improving their consumption where the PUFA is down and therefore the uptake, transport, and conversion is better, why isn't it possible to eliminate thyroid? 00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:18.080 It just seems to me that for some reason you're taking thyroid all the time, and if you're complying with the diet, it seems to me that the benefits of improvement of the adrenal gland should also apply to the thyroid gland for somebody who's a strict proponent of your diet. 00:35:18.080 --> 00:35:20.080 Where am I missing? 00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:31.080 I've seen lots of people who either were able to stop their thyroid supplement or greatly reduce it, and that happens. 00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:35.080 One or two people, it happened in a week. 00:35:35.080 --> 00:35:38.080 They broke the pattern so quickly. 00:35:38.080 --> 00:35:44.080 They didn't need it after having been in very serious condition. 00:35:44.080 --> 00:36:04.080 Others take three or four years, for example, a fat person who is well saturated with unsaturated fats has to get rid of a lot of that stored thyroid-inhibiting fat before they can get away from a supplement. 00:36:04.080 --> 00:36:12.080 What about all the electromagnetic radiation that's certainly disruptive to thyroid activity that's nothing to do with diet? 00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:16.080 Yeah, and the environmental estrogens. 00:36:16.080 --> 00:36:31.080 There are so many things like tooth-filling material, packaging of food, just almost any food you'll get some of these estrogens. 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:33.080 It could block the thyroid. 00:36:33.080 --> 00:36:35.080 All right, well, thank you for your call. 00:36:35.080 --> 00:36:38.080 Andrew, one other question that you just raised. 00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:40.080 If I can. 00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:49.080 You mentioned red light earlier, and I just wanted to understand in Dr. Peat's mind the benefits of red light. 00:36:49.080 --> 00:37:00.080 What does it physiologically do relative to the CO2, whether it's CO2 through putting yourself in a bag or putting yourself in a tub? 00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:01.080 What is it actually? 00:37:01.080 --> 00:37:06.080 The CO2 itself, I understand, lowers or stops any production of nitric oxide. 00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:07.080 What does the red light do? 00:37:07.080 --> 00:37:09.080 They're different benefits, are they not? 00:37:09.080 --> 00:37:12.080 Yeah, very different. 00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:26.080 Red light has a variety of effects, all involving action on electrons, which are out of their normal condition or orbit, 00:37:26.080 --> 00:37:37.080 especially cytochrome oxidase, copper enzyme, the blue enzyme of the crucial enzyme of oxidative metabolism. 00:37:37.080 --> 00:37:40.080 Stress lowers that activity. 00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:48.080 Just going through the night, it lowers its ability to oxidize nutrients. 00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:57.080 And just a few minutes of exposure to red light will restore the electronic balance of the copper 00:37:57.080 --> 00:38:03.080 and restore the copper to its relation to the enzyme, activating the enzyme. 00:38:03.080 --> 00:38:10.080 But there are a lot of other effects related to inflammation. 00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:21.080 For example, radiation poisoning at a lethal dose can be neutralized to the point that the animal will survive by exposing 00:38:21.080 --> 00:38:28.080 within the first hour or so to red light following the X-ray or gamma radiation. 00:38:28.080 --> 00:38:29.080 Excellent. 00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:32.080 Dr. Peat, I really appreciate your reply there. 00:38:32.080 --> 00:38:38.080 We do have two other callers, so I don't mean to rush you, but let's make sure these other callers get their calls in. 00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:44.080 And anybody else listening, it's askyourabdocterkmedia@gmail.com, 91.1 FM, from now until 8 o'clock. 00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:46.080 Oh, there goes the lights. 00:38:46.080 --> 00:38:50.080 I think we have three callers, 707-923-3911. 00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:53.080 Okay, let's take this next caller. 00:38:53.080 --> 00:38:56.080 Caller, you're on the air. 00:38:56.080 --> 00:38:57.080 Where are you from? 00:38:57.080 --> 00:38:59.080 From Portland, Oregon. 00:38:59.080 --> 00:39:00.080 Portland, Oregon. 00:39:00.080 --> 00:39:01.080 Yeah, go ahead. 00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:12.080 So one question is, perhaps it's a fad, but what are the benefits of drinking 16 ounces of celery juice a day? 00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:15.080 Sophie, go ahead. 00:39:15.080 --> 00:39:19.080 Well, celery juicing is a real craze in the U.K. right now. 00:39:19.080 --> 00:39:20.080 Maybe it is here as well. 00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:22.080 Not really, not too much. 00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:28.080 Yeah, people are juicing about three whole heads and stems of celery juice each morning. 00:39:28.080 --> 00:39:34.080 I don't know specifically what it is, but I think there's a huge amount of minerals in there, including potassium. 00:39:34.080 --> 00:39:38.080 And people do seem to feel much better on it and lose some water retention. 00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:44.080 Okay, Dr. Peat, what do you know about celery juice and its activity? 00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:53.080 I know celery seed is definitely used in the treatment of gout as a waste-clearing mechanism for the kidneys. 00:39:53.080 --> 00:39:56.080 But do you know much about celery juicing? 00:39:56.080 --> 00:40:01.080 I think the main problem is quite a few people are allergic to it. 00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:03.080 All right. 00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:04.080 Okay. 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:07.080 Can I ask one quick one? 00:40:07.080 --> 00:40:08.080 Yeah, go ahead, quickly. 00:40:08.080 --> 00:40:14.080 So, Dr. Peat, how much sugar do you consume a day and what are the ways that you get it? 00:40:14.080 --> 00:40:18.080 Is it white sugar and fruit juice? 00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:31.080 I try to get it all from fruit, but when I don't have good fruit, then I fill in with white refined sugar. 00:40:31.080 --> 00:40:38.080 And I try to get more than half of my calories from sugar. 00:40:38.080 --> 00:40:40.080 There you go. 00:40:40.080 --> 00:40:43.080 So, like a thousand calories? 00:40:43.080 --> 00:40:46.080 Oh, no, more like 1,500 to 1,600. 00:40:46.080 --> 00:40:48.080 Oh, yeah. 00:40:48.080 --> 00:40:49.080 Okay. 00:40:49.080 --> 00:41:01.080 Yeah, I was going to say when you're thinking and you're processing information and you're sitting on the computer and you're researching stuff and answering calls, the brain is very hungry. 00:41:01.080 --> 00:41:02.080 Okay, next caller. 00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:03.080 You're on the air. 00:41:03.080 --> 00:41:04.080 Where are you from? 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:05.080 What's your question? 00:41:05.080 --> 00:41:07.080 Hi, I'm from Australia. 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:18.080 My question is I've had some blood tests done recently and my circulating iron is fine, but my iron, my ferritin is actually quite low. 00:41:18.080 --> 00:41:28.080 And I've been eating a thyroid supportive diet for over 12 months now and following a lot of your methods, Dr. Peat. 00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:33.080 But the doctor is suggesting that I should have some iron injections. 00:41:33.080 --> 00:41:41.080 When I eat my red meat, I have that with orange juice to try and increase the absorption, but still it's quite low. 00:41:41.080 --> 00:41:50.080 I'm just wondering whether I should have those injections or if there's another method that I can use to increase my iron levels. 00:41:50.080 --> 00:41:53.080 How was the iron measured as the first? 00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:55.080 It was blood tests. 00:41:55.080 --> 00:42:03.080 The ferritin was 6 micrograms per litre. 00:42:03.080 --> 00:42:09.080 Was it saturation of transferrin? 00:42:09.080 --> 00:42:13.080 Iron saturation. 00:42:13.080 --> 00:42:14.080 Transferrin. 00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:16.080 Yeah, transferrin saturation done. 00:42:16.080 --> 00:42:19.080 Yes, 3.5 grams per litre. 00:42:19.080 --> 00:42:22.080 What was the percentage? 00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:24.080 3.5 grams per litre. 00:42:24.080 --> 00:42:25.080 Yes. 00:42:25.080 --> 00:42:28.080 No, I mean the percentage of the saturation. 00:42:28.080 --> 00:42:32.080 They haven't given a percentage. 00:42:32.080 --> 00:42:38.080 The results I've got, you've got 3.5 grams per litre. 00:42:38.080 --> 00:42:44.080 That would be hemoglobin, wouldn't it? 00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:53.080 It says transferrin and then it's got TIBC of 76 micro millimoles per litre. 00:42:53.080 --> 00:43:00.080 Saturation 10, ferritin 6, iron 7.8. 00:43:00.080 --> 00:43:06.080 We might use different measures here. 00:43:06.080 --> 00:43:18.080 Well, Dr. Peat, your rationale for increasing, I know you're always wary about increasing iron as it's extremely reactive and powerful oxidant. 00:43:18.080 --> 00:43:38.080 But in terms of what the lady is talking about having done those things dieterally, what would be another step so far as your perspective is concerned for raising this lady's iron and her hemoglobin and getting her saturation back up? 00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:46.080 The hemoglobin depends on body temperature for one thing. 00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:54.080 Thyroid is required for absorbing copper from your diet. 00:43:54.080 --> 00:44:16.080 And the copper is needed for integrating the iron with the blood and getting your waking temperature up to close to normal, close to 98 degrees at waking and 98.6 during the day. 00:44:16.080 --> 00:44:24.080 And making sure that your arms and legs are warm, close to your body temperature. 00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:30.080 It's possible to have a normal oral temperature and still have very cold feet. 00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:35.080 And the blood is made in your long bones so they have to be warm. 00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:46.080 And thyroid is the main factor keeping the blood synthesis going and the copper absorption to use the iron. 00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:59.080 And you can get a very high intake of iron in a safe way if you eat some liver and eggs every day and have orange juice with it. 00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:09.080 I am having liver about 200 grams per week. I have probably two eggs every second day. 00:45:09.080 --> 00:45:27.080 My rising temperature is usually around 36. I don't know the conversion to Fahrenheit so I'm not sure. But I am doing all those things to improve. 00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:35.080 But my stores are still low 12 months later so there's nothing else I can do. You wouldn't recommend having the iron injections? 00:45:35.080 --> 00:45:51.080 If your iron saturation is down around 5% or lower then that might justify it. Have you tried oral supplements? 00:45:51.080 --> 00:45:53.080 I haven't at this stage. 00:45:53.080 --> 00:46:12.080 I've known people who had such terrible effects from iron injections that I think if you're seriously low in saturation then I think the first thing would be if the liver and eggs haven't worked. 00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:14.080 And oysters are another very good source. 00:46:14.080 --> 00:46:16.080 I have those as well. 00:46:16.080 --> 00:46:22.080 How about from a herbal perspective Sophie because I know you've dealt with this before. 00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:28.080 Traditionally speaking to strengthen the blood but I've also seen in practice nettle can help. 00:46:28.080 --> 00:46:33.080 Is this regular stinging nettle? Is it an infusion or are you talking about an extract? 00:46:33.080 --> 00:46:40.080 It's a tea or a juice. And then also black strapped molasses but that also is because it has iron content and I think also has copper. 00:46:40.080 --> 00:46:46.080 But black strapped molasses daily and strong nettle tea might help. 00:46:46.080 --> 00:46:52.080 I suppose the fear is if you have a hemorrhage or if you have an accident that your stores aren't there. 00:46:52.080 --> 00:46:54.080 Okay we do have three other callers. 00:46:54.080 --> 00:46:56.080 Thank you for your time. 00:46:56.080 --> 00:47:00.080 Thank you for calling in but we've got three more so let's get the next one call away from. What's your question? 00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:04.080 Hi I'm from Texas. I have two questions for Dr. Peat. 00:47:04.080 --> 00:47:13.080 Okay we'll make them quick. Dr. Peat if we can make your responses fairly quick these next couple of people will get a chance to ask a question too before 8 o'clock. 00:47:13.080 --> 00:47:23.080 Yeah so first what can be done for someone who has a high temperature and pulse but still has chronic fatigue and other hypothyroid symptoms? 00:47:23.080 --> 00:47:30.080 Okay from an adrenaline perspective. Dr. Peat somebody with a high waking temperature and still has lethargy. 00:47:30.080 --> 00:47:50.080 Yeah checking your vitamin D level and your calcium intake those support your thyroid function and magnesium and calcium are necessary for the thyroid to work right. 00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:57.080 And you would equate that waking temperature to be an adrenaline based stress hormone dominated physiology? 00:47:57.080 --> 00:48:09.080 Yeah you should check your pulse rate at the same time as your waking temperature but also about 10 or 11 o'clock in the morning. 00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:23.080 And if your temperature is steady even after you've had some carbohydrate, fruit juice and such then it might be something other than high adrenaline. 00:48:23.080 --> 00:48:26.080 Okay and what was your second question caller? 00:48:26.080 --> 00:48:35.080 Yeah I was wondering if you've heard of chlorine dioxide and if you think it would help for reductive stress issues like autistic symptoms. 00:48:35.080 --> 00:48:52.080 I think there are lots of antiseptic agents that are safer than that. It isn't especially dangerous but long term use could promote cancer. 00:48:52.080 --> 00:49:05.080 Things like food fibers, any kind of fibrous food that goes through you without causing inflammation or gas will help to disinfect your intestine. 00:49:05.080 --> 00:49:08.080 And Sophie you wanted to interject here. 00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:13.080 Yeah I personally have experienced brain irritation myself in the past and I've definitely linked it to my gut. 00:49:13.080 --> 00:49:23.080 And one of the things I've used for patients in the past and for myself also is a herb called cat's claw which is very anti-inflammatory on the gut and anti-microbial etc. 00:49:23.080 --> 00:49:27.080 But it's also I believe got some research for brain inflammation too. 00:49:27.080 --> 00:49:34.080 Excellent. Okay so let's get this next caller. Caller you're on the air. Where are you from? What's your question? 00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:35.080 Is that me? 00:49:35.080 --> 00:49:38.080 Yeah that's you. Go ahead. What's your question? Where are you from? 00:49:38.080 --> 00:49:45.080 I'm from the Garberville area and I'm calling because this is a very pertinent show for me. 00:49:45.080 --> 00:49:52.080 I'm nearly seven months pregnant with my first child and we're choosing to go a very natural route. 00:49:52.080 --> 00:50:01.080 In our local paper here, The Independent just Tuesday, they published that there's a potential outbreak of whooping cough also known as pertussis in our area. 00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:06.080 There have been a few cases recorded so far this year. They're not labeling it as an outbreak yet. 00:50:06.080 --> 00:50:13.080 But I had a couple of questions about the treatments recommended by Sophie with the garlic and the thyme syrup. 00:50:13.080 --> 00:50:21.080 Are those safe enough and recommended to be safe enough for small children, infants? 00:50:21.080 --> 00:50:29.080 Also is the thyme syrup meant to be made from fresh thyme or dried thyme? 00:50:29.080 --> 00:50:38.080 And if Sophie wouldn't mind repeating those four wonderful useful things that the thyme syrup does that's helpful with whooping cough. Thank you. 00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:41.080 Yeah of course. So thyme syrup is usually made from dried thyme. 00:50:41.080 --> 00:50:53.080 And the four actions of thyme are it's anti-tussive, reduces the cough reflex. It's expectorant, it helps you cough the phlegm up. 00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:59.080 It's antiseptic and it's also anti-edematous so it reduces swelling in the airways too. 00:50:59.080 --> 00:51:04.080 That's wonderful. Do you think it's safe enough to use on very small children? 00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:13.080 Well I used it on my son from, I mean to be honest with you, with my son I happily gave it to him from about six months onward. 00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:20.080 And if he had a need I possibly would have given it to him earlier too but in much much reduced doses. 00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:22.080 I mean you may be able to give drop doses even. 00:51:22.080 --> 00:51:30.080 Okay good. Thank you. And do you think the garlic sounds fairly innocuous to try something like that on a small child as well? 00:51:30.080 --> 00:51:34.080 It is innocuous. You just don't want to leave it on for so long that it burns. 00:51:34.080 --> 00:51:36.080 Right. So very quickly. 00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:37.080 Well maybe a couple of minutes. 00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:42.080 Actually I heard a trick to keep it from burning is peel it without actually damaging the skin. 00:51:42.080 --> 00:51:48.080 And the trick I heard was to put it in a sock against the infant's foot and just overnight. 00:51:48.080 --> 00:51:53.080 But if you break the actual skin of the bulb then that oil comes out and it burns. 00:51:53.080 --> 00:51:54.080 Oh great. 00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:55.080 So very very gentle peeling. 00:51:55.080 --> 00:51:57.080 Yeah. Okay lovely. 00:51:57.080 --> 00:52:01.080 And you get a whole clove of garlic not like sliced clove of garlic. 00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:05.080 Yeah because the oil was more irritating. That's just a trick I'd heard. I don't have a good one. 00:52:05.080 --> 00:52:06.080 Yeah. 00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:11.080 I've tried it on myself though and it is very very different. You can hold that clove against you for all day. 00:52:11.080 --> 00:52:13.080 Right. That's great. 00:52:13.080 --> 00:52:17.080 Okay Dr. Peat. Do you want to quickly say anything about whooping cough? 00:52:17.080 --> 00:52:19.080 No I haven't had any experience with it. 00:52:19.080 --> 00:52:24.080 Okay. Alright. Is that the call? We've got through the callers. Okay so. 00:52:24.080 --> 00:52:25.080 Yes. Thank you so much. 00:52:25.080 --> 00:52:31.080 You're very welcome. Anybody else? Have you got any calls? You can quickly squeak in a quick one between now and 8 o'clock. 00:52:31.080 --> 00:52:36.080 But I want to have a few minutes here. Okay the engineer is shaking his head going no no no. 00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:41.080 Okay. Let's just leave it the way it is and I appreciate people calling in. 00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:46.080 Always adds interest to the show and I'm very grateful for the acknowledgement that people are listening 00:52:46.080 --> 00:52:49.080 even though sometimes we have the shows and we don't get too many callers. 00:52:49.080 --> 00:52:57.080 But as always I keep saying that these things are recorded in posterity and you know they're on the internet 00:52:57.080 --> 00:53:04.080 and they're on YouTube and I'm going to be speaking with Dr. Peat about something to do about making sure the evidence 00:53:04.080 --> 00:53:06.080 and the information is actually correct. 00:53:06.080 --> 00:53:11.080 So Dr. Peat let me just thank you very much for your time again this month. 00:53:11.080 --> 00:53:15.080 We really appreciate it and I'm going to give out some information about you right away. 00:53:15.080 --> 00:53:16.080 Okay. Thanks. 00:53:16.080 --> 00:53:23.080 Thank you. Okay so people have listened to the show Dr. Peat's website is www.rayPeat.com. 00:53:23.080 --> 00:53:28.080 He's got plenty of articles there. He's been doing this for 40 plus years. 00:53:28.080 --> 00:53:37.080 And Sophie Lam, medical herbalist or medical herbalist from England, sorry Scotland, not England, from Scotland. 00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:42.080 Gosh you're like a probably a fifth generation or sixth generation herbalist. 00:53:42.080 --> 00:53:45.080 Anyway it's alive and well in Scotland and your dad's 82. 00:53:45.080 --> 00:53:51.080 He's been doing this for a long time and he is very much alive and well doing it. 00:53:51.080 --> 00:53:56.080 And if you've got any way that people would reach you perhaps you might want to share with people. 00:53:56.080 --> 00:54:03.080 Yeah well my sleep specific site is called donecountingsheep.com. 00:54:03.080 --> 00:54:06.080 So d-o-n-e counting sheep.com. 00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:08.080 That's dedicated to sleep. 00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:11.080 But I also have my own website which is sophielam.com. 00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:15.080 And you're a member of the College of Practicing Phytotherapists, CPP in England. 00:54:15.080 --> 00:54:17.080 Very good. Okay. 00:54:17.080 --> 00:54:21.080 Okay so for those people that have tuned in I appreciate you calling. 00:54:21.080 --> 00:54:28.080 I can be reached Monday through Friday, any time I guess really because it's a toll free number 00:54:28.080 --> 00:54:30.080 and I may not answer the phone but leave a message. 00:54:30.080 --> 00:54:32.080 I will always get back to you. 00:54:32.080 --> 00:54:39.080 You can email me andrew@westernbotanicalmedicine.com or 1-888-WBM-HERB. 00:54:39.080 --> 00:54:46.080 And as I said before on the last couple of shows we are intending to get a, what do you want to call it, 00:54:46.080 --> 00:54:58.080 an authoritative source of Dr. Peat's information, his tireless explanation scientifically 00:54:58.080 --> 00:55:00.080 so that people can see it for what it really is. 00:55:00.080 --> 00:55:03.080 And we love to see real science in action. 00:55:03.080 --> 00:55:10.080 I am totally an advocate of scientifically backed medicine, herbal medicine, alternative medicines. 00:55:10.080 --> 00:55:12.080 There's no reason to ban any of it. 00:55:12.080 --> 00:55:16.080 Let's just be rational about this and produce good results for people. 00:55:16.080 --> 00:55:18.080 That's all we want to do is see people get better. 00:55:18.080 --> 00:55:24.080 So until the third Friday of next month, actually you know what, I won't be here. 00:55:24.080 --> 00:55:28.080 Third Friday of next month, that's right, August next month I will not be here. 00:55:28.080 --> 00:55:34.080 So it's going to be September. So I need to check in with the studio about that so I get a replacement. 00:55:34.080 --> 00:55:36.080 But next month I will not be here. 00:55:36.080 --> 00:55:38.080 But back again in September. 00:55:38.080 --> 00:55:43.080 So until the third Friday of September, I wish you all good night and thanks for joining in.