WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.440 Well welcome to this month's Ask Your Rev Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:11.520 Well it's 2020 folks. It's going to be a fantastic decade. I don't know about you but I'm looking 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:17.200 forward to 2020. It's going to be a good year. Okay so you're listening to Ask Your Rev Doctor 00:00:17.200 --> 00:00:23.120 KMU DeGalbraithville 91.1 FM. From 7 30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock you're invited 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:31.280 to call in with any questions related to this month's subject of vibrations, frequencies, and 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:38.560 cell repair and regeneration through sound and vibration. The program is a live program. Like I 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:43.760 said from 7 30 to the end of the show at 8 o'clock we'll open up the phone lines for people to call 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:52.720 in. Dr. Raymond Peat, PhD is joining us again and as he has done for the last 10 years I think now 00:00:52.720 --> 00:00:59.680 is a wealth of knowledge and whilst I know he doesn't express himself as a 00:00:59.680 --> 00:01:08.640 what would you call it an expert on sound he knows enough about a lot of different things that I know 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:15.920 he can weigh in on the subject of some of the most interesting and recent 2019 and 2020 publications 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:24.080 based on research that is accessible through the PubMed website being done in a very interesting 00:01:24.080 --> 00:01:32.640 field of medicine and some of the uses for excuse me for sound and electrofrequency magnetic 00:01:33.440 --> 00:01:40.160 spectrum type vibration is used in the treatment of cancer so we've got an interesting article to 00:01:40.160 --> 00:01:48.000 open up a little bit later on. So just by way of introducing the show my name is Andrew Murray. 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:54.960 I run a business called Western Botanical Medicine. I've been a naturopathic doctor here for 23 years. 00:01:54.960 --> 00:02:01.680 We manufacture our own range of medicinal herb extracts and deal with a lot of people all over 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:09.200 the nation consulting about a wide range of health conditions and has for the last 10 or just over 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:17.280 years been very much working with Dr. Peat to get his insight onto what I thought was the way things 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:24.240 were when I graduated in 1999. I did a four-year degree in herbal medicine in England after a 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:31.520 three-year degree in botany and was taught by medical doctors and physiologists and endocrinologists 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:37.680 and pathologists and they all came from City Hospital in London and various other medical 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:43.360 institutions and were basically teaching the same kind of dogma if you like and I know Dr. Peat and 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:51.200 I have opened up quite a few discussions based around the errant recapitulation of supposed facts 00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:59.120 of which Dr. Peat is very able to expand and show the defects in the understanding and the dogma 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:05.360 which has unfortunately guided medical decision medical technology. But anyway without further 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:10.320 ado let's just see if Dr. Peat's with us. Dr. Peat you on? Yeah. Great well thanks so much for joining 00:03:10.320 --> 00:03:18.000 us in this next decade. I want to put the question to you. I hope you'll be around for another decade. 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:25.600 Yeah good good. Okay so for those of you perhaps have never listened to the show before you've not 00:03:25.600 --> 00:03:30.960 heard Dr. Peat. Dr. Peat would you just outline your professional and academic background for 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:38.880 people to understand where you're coming from? I had a master's degree in humanities and after 00:03:38.880 --> 00:03:45.840 about 10 years went back for a PhD in biology University of Oregon 1972 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:55.520 on reproductive aging was my dissertation topic. Okay so reproductive aging so you've been pretty 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:04.000 intimately associated with all of the factors around reproduction and organized cell growth 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:11.920 to maximize the organism's potential. I know having worked with you especially surrounding 00:04:11.920 --> 00:04:20.560 things like you know neonatal health, children's health and the kind of foods. You're very much a 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:28.480 food-based scientist in terms of not buying into the fads of all the things that are thrown at us 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.320 through supplements but you're very much a kind of a very natural kind of approach to 00:04:32.320 --> 00:04:37.760 treating disease and I know you don't really generally advocate a lot of supplements but I 00:04:37.760 --> 00:04:44.480 know that progesterone is one of your pets if you like having you probably studied that a lot 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:50.720 during your PhD in terms of its use as a factor in organized cell growth and 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:57.600 anti-inflammatory processes. Incidentally some of my experiments had to do with the 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:05.760 electrical behavior of tissue under the influence of progesterone, estrogen, prostaglandins and so 00:05:05.760 --> 00:05:12.800 on. Interesting okay so we're going to get into that so I don't know let's just hold that thought 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:19.520 for a second so I think I'm hopefully going to be able to prime you to bring that back up again but 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:26.880 you've always mentioned and this is kind of a little bit off the side of the topic thrust as 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:34.640 it were but you've always mentioned estrogen as being an excitotoxic molecule and unfortunately 00:05:34.640 --> 00:05:40.640 most women who are listening or perhaps maybe the more educated ones that understand a little bit 00:05:40.640 --> 00:05:45.760 more about what you've taught over the last 30 or 40 years probably understand estrogen as being a 00:05:45.760 --> 00:05:50.960 female hormone and you know the whole hormone replacement therapy thing really pushed it as a 00:05:50.960 --> 00:05:58.240 pro-life hormone you know they want to say that'll help your bone thinning stabilize it's good for 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:04.000 osteoporosis as it were and it's good for degenerative conditions when actually it's a 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:13.360 very hormone that is based and implicated in inflammation and excitotoxicity. So I was very 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:20.640 excited to see the articles when I was looking for the material for today or to this evening's talk 00:06:20.640 --> 00:06:30.960 basing it on sound vibration cell signaling I was going to get I'm going to get into a little bit 00:06:30.960 --> 00:06:36.400 later on to get into the kind of tuning forks resonant frequencies a little bit about Rife 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:40.400 although I know you've already said that you you know you found it interesting but you don't know 00:06:40.400 --> 00:06:44.960 too much on it so I'm not asking you to be an expert or anything on that but whilst I was looking 00:06:44.960 --> 00:06:56.400 through the paperwork I saw a very interesting article on breast cancer and the journal article 00:06:56.400 --> 00:07:02.400 actually wasn't one of the newer ones but most of what I saw with sound and vibrations were actually 00:07:02.400 --> 00:07:08.800 in 2019 and 2020 publications so I was like I was pretty blown away and I think this is becoming 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:18.400 another resurging subject for people with science and academia are in the forefront to actually 00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:24.080 prove this now as being a modality it's a little bit like the whole Tesla battery car thing you 00:07:24.080 --> 00:07:29.120 know coming into fruition hopefully to put the whole fossil fuel thing firmly under the 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:35.840 under the rug and bring forward a new clean technology but I find a lot of the articles 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:41.120 that I see on PubMed as much as I know you've said in the past they are not exactly the best 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.040 places to go and there's a lot of corruption there obviously in any medical research depending 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:50.960 on who's funding it but very interesting to find in this age that we're in and definitely with the 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:56.160 internet and computers at the forefront of our ability to search and index things that people 00:07:56.160 --> 00:08:01.360 are actually picking up a lot of these things that would have been just put down to new age 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:08.160 just crystal dangling and you know just not being given any scientific foundation upon which to voice 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:16.800 their findings but most of what I saw then in 2019 was fairly fairly pretty cool research that's 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.320 being done on things that I'm very happy to see so this one particular article even though it was a 00:08:22.320 --> 00:08:28.400 2013 article the others that I'd like to cover with you as we go through this mainly 2019 and 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:33.920 2020 documents and I'll give people a link for these people want to go and search these themselves 00:08:33.920 --> 00:08:42.800 to find out what we're talking about but this 2013 one it was titled low intensity and frequency 00:08:42.800 --> 00:08:50.960 pulsed electromagnetic field selectively impair breast cancer cell viability so this was a an 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:55.680 article of which the abstracts just go through the introduction methods results in conclusion 00:08:55.680 --> 00:09:04.240 but essentially they were saying that this pulse electromagnetic field therapy was a very good 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:11.200 treatment for breast cancer that didn't affect normal tissues and it was non-invasive obviously 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.240 and could be potentially combined with existing anti-cancer treatments now I think they have to 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:23.440 put that in there anyway as a kind of a caveat to not displace the conventional treatment because 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:29.600 I think that's the dominant paradigm and but just to say that actually they found a good reduction 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:36.400 in breast cancer growth using these pulse frequencies and hopefully we'll get into this 00:09:36.400 --> 00:09:45.600 in a little bit as we go on but do you have anything to add to what was used here as a kind of 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:53.920 low intensity low frequency vibrational output that directly affected these cells 00:09:53.920 --> 00:10:02.720 they weren't in that experiment paying attention to the effects of frequency so it was just 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:14.720 really giving some kind of excitation to the cells but other people like the reif tradition 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:23.440 have been trying to identify particular frequencies that are more effective at either 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:33.120 exciting or calming the cells in the 60s people were trying to use direct current to control 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:44.000 cancer growth professor Johns Hopkins published an article saying that he had regressed mouse 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:50.800 mammary tumors just using the application of direct current polarization 00:10:50.800 --> 00:11:01.360 so just applying current but not a not not not not pulsing okay it's known that cancer 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:10.800 is electrically excited it's like a wound that is stuck in an electrically excited 00:11:10.800 --> 00:11:20.880 at negatively charged condition okay and just I mean for the as much as much death and morbidity 00:11:20.880 --> 00:11:25.760 that cancer is responsible for cancer cells are not exactly strong they're pretty weak aren't 00:11:25.760 --> 00:11:33.040 they they are very fragile in a lot of ways and so I think some of the some of the work that's 00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:42.400 been done either vibrational or electrically certainly has validity in disrupting that cell 00:11:42.400 --> 00:11:48.720 stability because they don't particularly have very stable membranes in terms of the normal 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:54.400 architecture of the cell and being electrically charged and excited I think makes them more 00:11:54.400 --> 00:12:03.760 susceptible to vibrating energy fields yeah such as in that experiment okay so what do you 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:11.360 when I started looking at this I saw that most of the articles that I pulled out that I want to just 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:17.840 go through with you using this pulsed electromagnetic fields most of these and they 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:24.000 were always obviously because that's how we do it now quoting these in hertz whereas before 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:29.760 you know 50 100 years ago they were called maybe a little bit earlier than that even they were 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:35.760 calling them cycles per second before they termed it hertz and before that they didn't even really 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:41.520 understand or have a concept of the second before about 1830 which I found that was quite interesting 00:12:41.520 --> 00:12:49.360 that most time is well originally measured by the sun or the passage of the sun and that's how 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:55.840 people measured time given that that's a celestial thing that it transcends our earthly 00:12:55.840 --> 00:13:05.280 fixation on the planet but that once they had devised this method for measuring time and then 00:13:05.280 --> 00:13:12.880 came up with the second then the cycles per second and the hertz became a scientific if you like 00:13:12.880 --> 00:13:20.800 valid measurement of frequency and then the whole industry if you like sprung up around this and then 00:13:20.800 --> 00:13:29.040 getting later on into self-agio tuning and what most musicians that I've spoken to that said oh 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:34.320 yeah we just tuned to 440 hertz now and it's it's not the way it was and if you really like 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:42.480 gregorian music or baroque music it was definitely not 440 would have been 432 hertz and how 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:48.080 there's a subtle change in that but getting back to frequencies and how 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:57.200 a specific frequency can affect a cell given that we are 90 something plus percent water 00:13:58.800 --> 00:14:03.920 all of the molecules in our body and not even the watery ones even the more kind of 00:14:03.920 --> 00:14:12.240 solid cells have membranes that are fluid and can and do respond very much to vibration and 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:20.320 that's something that we have just been part of you know growing up and evolving and you know 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:26.320 we're subjected to the sun's ultraviolet and infrared and and all those spectrums that we 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:33.280 kind of live with and I think in going through some of the other discussion I wanted to hopefully 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:41.120 bring bring your knowledge out on with the current deployment of 5g and how there is all these you 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:47.920 know fairly worldwide protests about 5g and then pulling down 5g towers and this you know having to 00:14:47.920 --> 00:14:55.200 bring out these big committees to discuss this because there's such an outrage at what could 00:14:55.200 --> 00:15:03.200 potentially be a very disruptive technology in some ways that we are very much organismic and 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:11.360 sensitive to light and vibration like being frequency and all of these things whether it's 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:16.800 photons of light or it's energy whether this energy is high energy obviously the radiation 00:15:16.800 --> 00:15:23.760 which is very bad for us but there's very low frequency electromagnetic fields are even lower 00:15:23.760 --> 00:15:31.360 than the kind of background they say that the earth kind of resonates at about eight I think 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:39.040 it's eight just under just under eight hertz they were using frequencies between one one and eighty 00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:45.600 I think and some of these were more more down in the sort of nines tens twelves thirteen and fourteen 00:15:46.400 --> 00:15:53.600 hertz and actually showing that people were getting benefit from this and there's a whole 00:15:53.600 --> 00:16:00.240 breast cancer article introduction you was you were saying again that they weren't 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:11.760 so much focusing on the frequency of it or they weren't yeah in the 60s the doctrine there are 00:16:11.760 --> 00:16:20.800 still people arguing that cell phones aren't causing brain damage or cancer and so on but 00:16:20.800 --> 00:16:30.000 that argument that cells are pretty immune to various frequencies started back in the late 40s 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:38.160 when radar was accidentally killing people who stood in front of the radar antenna 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:50.880 and the authority opinion at that time was that it was only by overheating your brain or other 00:16:50.880 --> 00:17:00.720 organs that electromagnetic injury could harm you and in the 1960s that was the dogma that neither 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:12.160 sound nor electromagnetic energy below a certain frequency and energy could have any effect on the 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:21.600 units of the cell such as chromosomes or mitochondria and a person was working with 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:35.120 muscle cells in culture and measuring the activity of ATPase which controls the disposition of 00:17:35.120 --> 00:17:43.360 energy in the cell and they found that I think was the pitch of 440 which was very powerful 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:52.240 at activating that muscle enzyme and they showed that the conventional theory of the cell 00:17:52.240 --> 00:18:05.760 was impossible for that low frequency moderately low energy that the dogma says that the energy 00:18:05.760 --> 00:18:17.120 concentration per micron or any unit of space is too low to do such things as causing chemical 00:18:17.120 --> 00:18:25.840 changes but the person demonstrating the effect showed that in effect the cell structure was 00:18:25.840 --> 00:18:37.040 acting as an antenna concentrating gathering energy from several microns of space and 00:18:37.040 --> 00:18:45.280 concentrating it so that it could act on the enzyme that's the essential difference at that time 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:54.000 the conventional opinion was that it would be impossible to make a magnetic resonance 00:18:54.720 --> 00:19:00.960 imaging device because of that same idea that the cell is organized randomly 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:11.600 but it took the interaction between Gilbert Ling and his organized water explanation of cell 00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:22.880 function and Raymond Damadian who realized that if Gilbert Ling was right about how water behaves 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:33.360 so you can make pictures of the water in cells electromagnetically and so his invention of the 00:19:33.360 --> 00:19:46.960 MRI device really changed the possibility of explaining cell function. Okay all right so 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.880 you mentioned I just want to quickly put this up there before I just let people know how to 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:55.280 call into the show yeah you mentioned that in the 50s and 60s that was happening and that just 00:19:55.280 --> 00:19:58.480 just triggered me to think about all the bomb testing and how they were trying to tell us all 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:02.640 that the atomic bombs were completely harmless and how people could stand in front of them and 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:08.160 they wouldn't get any negative effects from it so they were saying the very same thing about the low 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.720 frequency low energy although the atomic bomb is the opposite end of the spectrum it was very high 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.680 intensity gamma rays and it was very very damaging but they really wanted us to try and cover that 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.880 whole thing up the whole radiation industry and that everything that we've got now from x-rays to 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:30.000 PET scans and CAT scans has all come from that and it's still being covered covered up and just 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:35.520 made harmless as it were. Yeah that's part of the reason that they deny that Gilbert Ling 00:20:35.520 --> 00:20:42.320 had an immaculate description of the cell because if his picture of the cell is right 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:50.160 then radiation electromagnetic energy and so on is very relevant to health function. 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:56.640 Okay let me just let people know how to reach us here so you're listening to ask your Dr. 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.040 K. M. D. Garboville 91.1 FM the number here from 7 30 on if you'd like to call him the questions 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:10.400 are related or unrelated to the evening subject of vibration cell signaling and everything 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:19.840 surrounding sound and vibration as a modality for treatment the number here is 707 923 3911. 00:21:19.840 --> 00:21:32.400 So again 707 923 3911. Okay so Dr. Peat that the first article then I read out the breast cancer 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:40.080 treatment selectively damaging breast cancer cells selectively leaving regular tissue unchanged 00:21:40.560 --> 00:21:48.240 um was done with a frequency from 20 to 50 hertz and um they used 30 to 90 minute exposures 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:55.040 and said that these were the optimum parameters for selective cancer cell killing activity so 00:21:55.040 --> 00:22:00.400 that was pretty interesting I don't know how much I didn't look at cell um cell death from 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:06.640 breast cancer any further because I was looking at lots of different um types of treatment to 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:14.400 different types of pathology that would be mitigated through sound the next one I was 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:20.800 going to ask you about was some bone regeneration I found a lot of um a lot of different abstracts 00:22:20.800 --> 00:22:27.440 and articles um supporting this now um one of them here 2019 article in the journal of clinical 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:33.360 medicine was translational insights into extremely low frequency pulse electromagnetic fields for 00:22:33.360 --> 00:22:39.200 bone regeneration after trauma and orthopedic surgery now if you open the link up I'm not 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.560 saying you have it but if people want to find out what these are when you open the link up 00:22:42.560 --> 00:22:49.680 there's lots of information there showing how people with different traumas and surgeries that 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:57.040 were done were treated with sound and how this improved osteoblastic activity so the actual 00:22:57.040 --> 00:23:01.680 what we understand what I understand at least at this point in time about bone building and bone 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:08.800 breaking um organ organs within the bone so the osteoblast build it and the osteoclast break it 00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:14.400 down for remodeling um that this sound actually had a very specific effect on the osteoblast to 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:21.440 improve bone mineralization and bone formation and structure so that was pretty interesting 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.800 another 2019 document have you have you heard of um I don't know this kind of probably plays 00:23:26.800 --> 00:23:31.920 a little bit into ultrasound but I'm not actually sure of the frequencies that ultrasound works at 00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:40.480 the um for treating uh things they use of anything from 50,000 to 100,000 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:49.520 but the imaging is around a million cycles per second 50,000 to 100,000 hertz um yeah that 00:23:50.080 --> 00:24:00.480 is a very effective uh wound treatment around I think 1970 or earlier someone discovered that 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:09.920 putting ultrasound on infected tonsils caused them to recover and become normal uninflamed 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:19.520 and that gradually over the next 10 or 20 years they found that bone healing was accelerated 00:24:19.520 --> 00:24:25.280 and soft tissue wound healing was accelerated similar to what happened in the tonsil 00:24:25.280 --> 00:24:37.120 and part of that is thought to be the activation of of cell regenerating 00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:44.800 signals such as nitric oxide and estrogen that accelerate stem cell growth and 00:24:47.040 --> 00:24:55.280 multiplication the early stages of healing yeah okay so um if I just I quickly actually 00:24:55.280 --> 00:25:00.480 had this article here in front of me so I just wanted to it's like I said it's a 2019 article 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:08.160 and they said that here um being used in the treatment of acute bone fractures 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:15.520 and bone fracture non-unions osteotomies spinal fusion osteoporosis and osteoarthritis 00:25:16.560 --> 00:25:22.480 and saying that these studies favored the use of extremely low frequency pulse electromagnetic 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:30.880 fields and saying that they wanted to establish indication-oriented treatment regimens and to 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.640 understand more the underlying mechanisms in the sense of the cell pathways and the events that 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:41.280 are triggered so some of the other other articles that I've got that I want to just so outline here 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:48.640 break down in pretty fine detail exactly what pathways these things are affecting and people 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:55.040 that are listening probably recognize the words interleukin prostaglandins and these other 00:25:55.040 --> 00:26:04.480 signals of excitation and toxicity and inflammation a lot of what was happening with this sound was 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:10.160 that it was blocking a lot of what we understand as these pro-inflammatory pathways and allowing 00:26:10.800 --> 00:26:16.960 either free radical quenching of this kind of excited state during inflammation and trauma 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:21.120 or was having another indirect anti-inflammatory effect. 00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:35.840 The imaging of bone density or osteoporosis can be done with ultrasound you can tell the strength 00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:45.280 of a bone as well as its density if you use ultrasound and since ultrasound stimulates 00:26:45.280 --> 00:26:54.560 bone repair it would be reasonable if doctors would evaluate aging women's bones using ultrasound 00:26:54.560 --> 00:27:02.480 but they x-ray them and x-rays actually weaken the bone and accelerate osteoporosis so 00:27:03.600 --> 00:27:11.440 it would be a good change of technology to use to switch over to ultrasound. A friend of mine who 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:22.080 was for a year or more had had liver enzyme elevation and signs of hepatitis or developing 00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:30.880 cirrhosis had a very prolonged ultrasound examination of her liver and a couple of weeks 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:39.680 later went back for another exam and her liver had completely recovered. I suspect it was from that 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:48.800 very half an hour or so of looking around with an ultrasound imaging device. 00:27:48.800 --> 00:27:58.240 The mechanism by which that would have had the an anti-inflammatory effect I guess if we just 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.880 look at something like hepatitis as an inflammation of the hepatocytes, 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:11.360 inflammation quenching activity then of ultrasound would be a relative positive mechanism by which 00:28:11.360 --> 00:28:16.080 that could happen. I know you've mentioned in the past that ultrasound is just generally a good 00:28:16.080 --> 00:28:25.200 healing modality whether it's for bones or tissue, soft tissue or you know even yeah actually let's 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:31.520 have a look here. I think the only place it shouldn't be used is around the head because 00:28:31.520 --> 00:28:40.640 tends to emulsify tissue if it's too energetic and you don't want emulsified brain cells. 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.880 No okay we do have somebody who has called in at this point in time so let's just begin 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:50.240 this decades questioning with this next caller. Caller you're on the air where you're from and 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:57.600 what's your question? Hi I'm from Texas and I have two questions. Yeah go ahead. One do you think 00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:03.920 meditation is safe if you're trying to lower breathing rate and increase CO2 or can it have 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:09.840 bad effects like increasing serotonin or something like that? Dr. Peat meditation obviously we all 00:29:09.840 --> 00:29:14.960 think about meditation as being relaxing, calm, innovative, regenerating but what the gentleman 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:26.880 saying about CO2? I think most people tend to hyperventilate too much and if you can just relax 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:34.800 and stop hyperventilating you retain more CO2 and that has an anti-inflammatory everywhere 00:29:34.800 --> 00:29:40.560 everywhere in the body. So you'd advocate meditation correct? Yeah. Yeah definitely. 00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:46.880 Okay cool I think you had two questions that was the first one or? Yeah that was the first one and 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:53.840 do you know what could help to reduce the need for sleep aside from increasing CO2 because that 00:29:53.840 --> 00:29:58.960 basically helps everything. Did you catch that Dr. Peat? I missed. No not the whole. Yeah say 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:04.960 that again please. Do you know what things could help to reduce the need for sleep? Oh to reduce 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:12.240 the need for sleep. Oh yeah. Well how much sleep are you getting and what do you want to reduce it to? 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:18.240 Because I know Dr. Peat definitely advocates a good 10 hours. 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:31.040 Oh yeah if you're not getting in the deepest phase of sleep called slow wave sleep or deep sleep 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:40.320 your tissue isn't being repaired adequately and so you need more hours of it and so if you do 00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:47.840 things that will deepen your sleep then you can reduce it to the normal six to eight and a half 00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:57.200 hours and thyroid hormone and vitamin D are two of the most important things for maintaining 00:30:58.080 --> 00:31:07.840 deep sleep. Okay and can vitamin D increase serotonin and worsen sleep or is it just a 00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:15.680 matter of getting calcium to counter that? Yeah serotonin and histamine are both brain 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:24.560 excitatory signals and that's why antihistamines are used for improving sleep. They're 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:33.680 both antiserotonin and antihistamine drugs do improve sleep but you can do the same thing 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:43.840 with good nutrition lots of calcium, vitamin D and thyroid. Okay thank you so much. Thank you. 00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:49.920 Okay now some antihistamines obviously are sleep inducing correct because they purposely make these 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:57.280 non-drowsy producing antihistamines. Do you think there's any difference in the mechanism by which 00:31:57.280 --> 00:32:10.880 they're being? Well histamine is basically an inflammation signal and insomnia you are having 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:19.600 in effect an inflamed brain and you can quiet it by getting the energy production up with thyroid 00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:28.240 and sugar and all of the nutrients but the antihistamine chemicals are everything that 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:38.640 works in a different direction from adrenaline. Adrenaline is antihistamine but it is also 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:47.280 excitatory and so insomnia usually involves both adrenaline and antihistamine. The adrenaline is 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:54.320 attempting to turn off the histamine but if you get your energy up you turn off both of them and 00:32:54.320 --> 00:33:02.320 let the brain relax. Right now so let's be clear about that so relax and relaxation is not negative 00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:07.040 I just want to make sure people understand this when you say you it allows your brain to relax 00:33:07.040 --> 00:33:11.040 that's exactly what thyroid hormone will do through the correct utilization of sugar and then when you 00:33:11.040 --> 00:33:16.080 said that during the night time is when most inflammation of the brain will happen and this 00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:22.880 is because of a lowered energy state adequate thyroid and adequate sugars prior to sleep or 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.520 in the post-pre six hours to sleep and or during the night time will keep those inflammatory 00:33:29.520 --> 00:33:37.920 mediators down and reduce that inflammation and most aging changes occurring during the hours of 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.880 sleep and darkness. Yeah because you said darkness is not good for you obviously it's something we 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.160 can't avoid perhaps if we're in bed at night time with the lights off in a dark place but 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:52.560 the dark is not good for us the light is actually what's very energetically stimulating for us and 00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:58.320 supportive etc. Okay we have another caller on the air so let's get this next caller on the air 00:33:58.320 --> 00:34:04.000 where you from caller and what's your question? Hi I'm from McKinleyville. Hey what's your question? 00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:14.320 Well I have a question about um infrasound uh we were just um embattled with a wind factory 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:22.640 that proposed a whole bunch of uh wind power turbines and the uh proponent 00:34:22.640 --> 00:34:29.440 um denied that there was any effect to what's called infrasound the sound produced by these 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:35.760 turbines that are below audible range and I'm wondering if you have any thoughts or information 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:45.040 regarding biological effects of of infrasound. I think cell culture gives an insight to what might 00:34:45.040 --> 00:34:54.000 be happening uh the infrasound frequencies are something around 50 per second 30 to 30 per 00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:04.000 second or even as low as 10 per second but if you're growing cells in culture that they always 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:15.040 lose some of their uh properties that they had in in situ in the organism and one of the tricks to 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:22.560 make cell culture more lifelike is to give it some kind of pulsation because 00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:30.240 cell physiology depends on the fact that the blood is rhythmically pulsing through the system 00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:45.520 and the pulse rate is in the intrasonic frequency and there are many other frequencies that 00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:55.280 every cell in the body normally receives stimulation nervous pulses as well as blood 00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:04.240 heart heartbeat pulsations. So thank you I take from that then you would expect there to be 00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:11.920 physiological effects from a constant infrasound. Yeah I don't know that anyone has clearly 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:22.880 demonstrated it but you can use equivalent pulsations to show that you are changing the 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:29.760 cell physiology in vitro. Thank you very much. Yeah thanks for your call interesting question 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:36.320 I know there's definitely been protest groups that have sprung up around wind farm sites and 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:42.480 potential wind farm sites I know England and parts of Norfolk in the east east of the country there 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.840 have had a fair amount of wind farms because it's so flat and so windy but yeah interesting 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:53.440 question about infrasounds well thanks for explaining that Dr. Peat well done okay the 00:36:53.440 --> 00:37:00.400 number here if you live in the area is 707 923 3911 the lines are open now until the end of the 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.160 show at eight o'clock Dr. Raymond Peat is joining us on the show and we're discussing vibrations 00:37:06.160 --> 00:37:11.920 cell signaling resonant harmonies and healing frequencies although we haven't really got into 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:18.080 too much of that at this point in time but very interesting questions anyway good Dr. Peat 00:37:18.080 --> 00:37:25.600 before the next caller comes in I'm sure there'll be some more callers but I wanted to just bring 00:37:25.600 --> 00:37:32.320 out some of the parameters in which these 20 20 this is a 2020 article here so it's very new very 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:42.000 current and I think all the time there are more and more descriptive processes to explain how 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:48.560 and I think scientists basically are committed to needing to explain in full detail and I think 00:37:48.560 --> 00:37:52.720 that's great because I mean with detail comes disclosure with disclosure comes the possibility 00:37:52.720 --> 00:38:01.200 of reaching some novel novel idea that might bring us into a 20th 21st century appreciation 00:38:01.200 --> 00:38:06.720 of good health rather than the old paradigm of radiation and cutting things out and really not 00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:11.680 recovering very well actually before I start I think the lights have started flashing here so 00:38:11.680 --> 00:38:15.760 let's make sure that we don't cut people off yeah we've got one more call it's a caller you're on 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:24.640 the air and where you from what's your question hi I'm from Berkeley um I have a an appointment 00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:33.760 next week to start my interferon for my hepatitis C but I had a very thorough ultrasound on my liver 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:39.840 to find that out so should I ask them if I don't need the hepatitis C I don't want to go through 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:47.200 the interferon he said interferon are they still the ultrasound would cure me well I guess first 00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:53.760 things first um they still use I didn't think I thought they'd stopped years ago three or five 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.160 years ago using interferon because it was so brutal okay then I don't know what they're 00:38:58.160 --> 00:39:02.640 going to give me I don't know what the treatment is I'm going to find out on on next week yeah I 00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:07.680 can't imagine it's interferon but Dr. Peat I know what you're saying here about ultrasound and 00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:19.920 hepatitis and uh you want to speak to that oh not not in a short time like this okay uh have you 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:24.480 the only thing I think I would say to the person here that's called in about this uh potentially 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.480 uh I don't know how severe your hepatitis is what parameters they've used to assess how much damage 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.680 you may or may not have received I know people are so different in their presentations some people 00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:40.320 just don't even know they've got it don't their labs look fine they feel fine some people are 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.080 crippled with it um so I don't know about your situation I think uh what I would say to you is 00:39:46.080 --> 00:39:53.440 that if your blood work doesn't look bad and you don't feel bad and you are relatively old 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:58.400 sounds to me like you're dealing with it okay but it's uh you know kind of personal question 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:04.720 they'll be asking you about your previous labs your state of health etc to make a um make a 00:40:04.720 --> 00:40:16.160 valid call on what you would best do okay I'm 60 years old was that 60 or 50 60 okay yeah all right 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:22.240 and do you know what your lab values for your inflammatory markers are for your AFP no I have 00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:28.960 I have no idea they just said it wasn't I didn't it wasn't very bad yeah yeah it's um you know it's 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:34.080 a very personal call uh I know people have gone both routes unfortunately I know people that have 00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:39.840 had uh they had the old interfere on treatment uh they failed it uh they wound up actually with 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.920 cirrhosis portal hypertension they died from esophageal variceal bleeding um and it was 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.400 terrible I know other people that have had hepatitis c for 50 years and they're absolutely 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:56.480 fine uh even though they've got high liver enzymes which seem to implicate them in liver inflammation 00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.400 and damage and I know people that have got hepatitis they've got perfectly normal enzymes 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:07.200 so it's a very widely presenting uh disease we want to call it a disease and I know Dr. Peat 00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:12.160 you're almost on the fence as to whether or not it's actually a virus or whether it's actually 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:23.440 RNA that's leaked from cells from prior traumas yeah I think the test to identify it 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:34.320 has done more harm than the virus itself because of of the kind of desperate attitude that they 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:41.360 take with things like interferon I think people who probably wouldn't have had any 00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:46.720 any problem if it hadn't been diagnosed have been injured by some of the treatments they get 00:41:46.720 --> 00:41:53.440 actually on the point on the point of this subject I know years back when I'd question 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.160 you for a couple of patients that I'd you know spent time with and knew personally was on a kind 00:41:58.160 --> 00:42:03.200 of more personal level with them now you said didn't you I thought you said that um ribavirin 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:08.400 which I think was one of the treatments along with interferon that was a standard uh treatment 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.720 uh was not well not actually that bad I think one of those and I don't think it was interferon 00:42:12.720 --> 00:42:17.600 you always said interferon was like massively inflammatory and and very negative on a system 00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:22.880 but ribavirin actually might not have been a bad compound to try but yeah I think it's less 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.160 less harmful yeah okay all right uh I don't know if that helps you in any way call it but 00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:33.680 what I would do if I was in your shoes I would definitely assess your assess your labs and 00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:41.520 assess yourself I mean how do you feel um okay okay you know no I feel really good I feel really good 00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:46.160 but okay what's up one more question what about the hydrogen peroxide uh the strong hydrogen 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:52.320 peroxide that you you do those drops say that again that hydrogen peroxide treatment with 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.960 hydrogen peroxide like 30 drops a day oh no you're not talking about mm uh mmsi the miracle 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:03.520 mineral supplement that's actually bleach which no no no no no it's it's actually it's hydrogen 00:43:03.520 --> 00:43:10.160 peroxide and you can bite it daisy that's a human strength or whatever uh well you start out like 00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:15.600 one drop a day and go up to 30 yeah that sounds just like mms which is actually uh um the same 00:43:15.600 --> 00:43:21.040 sodium hypochlorite which is a regular household bleach uh it was a fad and I can't believe it's 00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:26.800 still on the internet it's absolutely all over it and I'm kind of amazed that it's still going 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:31.920 and it's still got such a strong following but uh you'll find testimonials about this that and 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.720 the other on it and it starts off at one drop a day and ends up with however many drops and 00:43:36.720 --> 00:43:41.920 there's people writing testimonials about how it's done this and done that and it's kind of 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:49.280 unbelievable really but um I would I would say that I would not I would not get involved with it 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:55.360 Dr. Peat uh you've probably been have you heard about the mms it's like yeah there was a study 00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:04.480 in Italy that identified it as a probable carcinogen right yeah so I would probably 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:10.800 I probably not I probably I would not go down that route ma'am okay well I sure I sure got a 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:16.080 lot out of this call from you guys um it was great yeah thank you so much you're very welcome 00:44:16.080 --> 00:44:24.240 okay for yeah happy new year to you okay uh if anybody else wants to call in we've got uh 14 00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:27.760 minutes so we've got one more caller here but the number in the air if you're in or out of the air 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:36.320 it doesn't matter where on planet earth you are at 707-923-3911 707-923-3911 and let's take this 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:43.680 next call are you on the air call away from what's your question I was diagnosed with osteoporosis 00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:52.960 10 years ago am I could you turn your radio down ma'am I'm turning 66 in a couple of days you know 00:44:52.960 --> 00:45:02.720 and supposedly I have a um osteopoenic spine whatever that is a femoral neck that is osteoporotic 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:13.360 in a total osteoporotic hip however I feel fine you know I do I just walked 44 miles to get my 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:18.240 tooth extracted from shelter cove the other day oh my gosh okay ma'am I guess first things first 00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:23.280 before we let dr pete answer and you'll have some vibrational thing I'd like to talk about yeah 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:33.600 pulse waves and you know I'm a musician and I believe in music therapy sure and pulse sonar 00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:41.280 waves are able to help bone growth sure I've got articles right in front of me man I do believe it 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.520 because you know I've been studying music my entire life I have a degree from Catholic University of 00:45:45.520 --> 00:45:50.800 America could you turn your tv down it's on in the background it's not my tv it's my radio radio 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:56.080 yeah if you could tell me what's going on you know I am not deaf actually but you know I can hear 00:45:56.080 --> 00:46:01.200 things and talk at the same time here I don't have a tv I've never had a tv in my entire life 00:46:01.200 --> 00:46:06.000 okay if you could turn the radio down that would help thank you so dr pete I know you know a lot 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.600 about a lot of things and osteoporosis is something I've questioned you on recently but 00:46:09.600 --> 00:46:14.960 and I also have osteomotor hypothyroidism well there you go that goes hand in hand with osteoporosis 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:20.400 man yes but mine's genetic from being northern italian well I'm not too sure about the relevance 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:29.360 of that but dr p go ahead vitamin k is very important along with vitamin d and calcium intake 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:41.920 vitamin k prevents the removal of calcium from the bone and keeps it out of the soft tissues 00:46:43.520 --> 00:46:50.400 the combination is much more effective than either one alone okay so they give vitamin k 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:56.800 calcium and d yeah i'm perfect okay well let's uh let's just see if any other callers are going 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:03.200 to be calling in here in the last uh nine minutes or so before we wrap the show up once again 707 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:12.480 923 3911 and dr p is joining us once more this decade so um getting back to uh until the lights 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:20.800 go off here but getting back to some of the um some of the measurements by which they support 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:27.760 the abstracts that i've looked at um this one particular abstract here was showing that um 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:34.160 exposure to a cytokine production by lipopolysaccharide which we've heard we've heard 00:47:34.160 --> 00:47:40.080 and discussed before in the past that this compound lps is responsible for inflammation 00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:47.600 cells and in this pathway the pathway of the inflammation basically adenyl cyclase and 00:47:47.600 --> 00:47:58.080 phospholipase proteins kinase c and several other protein kinases here were seemingly modulated 00:47:58.080 --> 00:48:05.520 by these sound waves and they're saying that this is evidence of why this post electromagnetic field 00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:10.400 therapy had such a significant effect on inflammation and quelling inflammation because 00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:16.560 it's directly uh interrupting these signal pathways that normal inflammation is involved in 00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:26.720 um i think normal activity has some of those uh effects anti-inflammatory effects 00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:36.800 if you're forced uh into inactivity you develop a generalized inflammation in 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:48.480 probably all of the tissues and free activity work that is productive using your muscles walking 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:57.680 for example rather than sitting the normal activity of muscles lowers the stress hormones 00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:04.400 and increases the constructive hormones such as progesterone and dhea and testosterone 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:13.600 and normal activity in itself is an anti-inflammatory process and i suspect that 00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:22.720 these certain frequencies are imitating the normal rhythm of proper activity cool okay we do have 00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:27.840 another caller who's uh waiting here so caller you're on the air where you from and what's your 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:36.400 question hi my name's julie and i'm from lintonville my question is um i have fibromyalgia 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:43.600 and i'm trying to navigate through this still i've had it for 10 years but i find that when i get 00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:50.880 into a big city and i'm around a lot of uh power lines and stuff like that i start feeling a little 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:56.000 not well so i didn't know if there was like any relationship between those two things 00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:01.200 well dr p you're understanding of fibromyalgia i know is a little different from the current 00:50:01.200 --> 00:50:08.960 medical uh normal model of it but i think a lot of doctors are coming around to recognize 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:18.720 the importance of hormone balance a good thyroid function vitamin d and keeping up the constructive 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:28.240 hormones or steroids like progesterone testosterone and dhea okay and especially as you're female i 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:34.480 mean i don't mean this in any negative way but because you're exposed uh and in an unopposed way 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:39.840 after your menstruation has stopped to estrogen that is very important for you to make sure you 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:45.040 get adequate progesterone because it's the antagonist of the inflammatory estrogen and that 00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:51.440 in fibromyalgia uh no doubt that estrogen excess or estrogen dominance certainly has a role to play 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:59.360 in that tired waterlogged muscles of which estrogen is a main cause oh okay well i'm 63 now so i don't 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:06.080 have too many of those you don't you don't but you don't have any uh any way to combat the estrogen 00:51:06.080 --> 00:51:10.880 you're still producing you're every cell in your body is still manufacturing or can manufacture 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.280 and secrete estrogen but your ovaries no longer function and so therefore you're not getting 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:21.040 progesterone exposure which is very important to offset that okay and which is part and parcel of 00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:27.360 the osteoporosis question i was also wondering but not to uh say to dr p that we didn't mention 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:37.040 um you know progesterone um as a yeah anyway so carry on yeah cortisol is a born destroyer 00:51:37.600 --> 00:51:47.600 and progesterone is the main antagonist of cortisol okay so um is there a book or something 00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:52.880 that i can get on this subject that you guys are talking about that you would recommend 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.080 you haven't written one yet dr p about it have you 00:51:56.080 --> 00:52:02.640 we've talked about it a lot over 10 years but nothing's materialized at this point in time but 00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:08.000 dr p what i would say to you ma'am is that at the end of the show i'll give that dr p's website he's 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:13.280 got plenty of articles actually surrounding just what you're talking about uh although a lot of it 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:18.000 is for the sake of it very science-based and um some of it may be a little hard for 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:23.600 a novice to grasp it's very well grounded in science and so therefore it's it's very easy 00:52:23.600 --> 00:52:28.320 to catch the thrust of what he's saying and certainly you can find out more information 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:33.760 if you're on the internet about some of those uh concepts precepts and directions that you get taken 00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:38.960 in good deal well thank you so much i appreciate your time you're welcome okay we got one more 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.040 caller i think this would probably be the last caller before we wrap up the show but 00:52:43.040 --> 00:52:50.160 call you're on the air and what's your question away from oh i'm local uh person and i believe 00:52:50.160 --> 00:52:57.040 it was helga clark that wrote the cure for all cancers and i wonder if the doctor approves of 00:52:57.040 --> 00:53:04.960 the device that she created to you know uh tone out certain bacterial frequencies and i can hang 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:13.520 up now i think she used just a simple low voltage direct current stimulator and that device can be 00:53:13.520 --> 00:53:21.280 used productively but i don't think she understood enough to use it productively 00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:30.160 yeah interesting oh thank you you're welcome okay so i don't know maybe we can squeeze one 00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.480 more in if someone wants to call in it's seven zero seven nine two three three nine one one 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.880 otherwise i'm sure we've got enough to carry on with here for a couple of minutes to let people 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:45.280 know how they can reach dr p i think probably dr p i don't see the lights flashing here we'll say 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:51.360 thank you very much for your time uh this month i look forward to next month uh obviously we 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:56.960 as usual but thank we didn't get we didn't get into as much as i thought we might do so we've 00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:01.760 got material for next month if you're available i'd love to carry on the subject it's definitely 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:07.120 very interesting okay thank you okay so for those people who've listened to the show this evening 00:54:07.120 --> 00:54:16.160 and or listen to this on the audio archives or on the web um dr pete's web address is www.raypeat 00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:24.880 r-a-y-p-e-a-t.com uh he's got a huge list of articles that have been written that are fully 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:30.000 referenced scientific articles that you would expect to see in any good journal uh fully 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:36.480 referenced for the things that he's saying so it's not just his opinion um there's many many 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:41.680 articles from all sorts of different pathologies so go take a look at his website uh like i said 00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:46.400 a lot of it's uh very science-based so maybe a little bit um tough chewing for some people to 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:52.960 get through it but nonetheless uh what we need is good science to underpin a good direction to go in 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.120 because i don't think the medical model we're using at this point in time uh is a particularly 00:54:57.120 --> 00:55:02.080 good model it's certainly uh fairly damaging in some cases and it does not really tolerate too 00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:07.760 much criticism about it so anyway uh what we do here on this show once a month from the third 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:14.160 friday of every month from 7 to 8 pm is discuss alternative uh treatments alternative approaches 00:55:14.160 --> 00:55:20.720 and indeed bring up some old past uh research that's been done that may either be revived in 00:55:20.720 --> 00:55:26.080 the light of current knowledge or just because it's become forgotten it's just valuable to bring 00:55:26.080 --> 00:55:32.960 it up again to make sure people recognize that there is and has been and still is answers um 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:39.920 that are there and available so that people don't have to go down one particular route to get treated 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:48.320 for a disease um it's not always one pill works for everybody obviously it's very far from that 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:53.040 and i would encourage everybody to do their own research there's plenty of alternatives out there 00:55:53.040 --> 00:56:00.080 and like that lady who called in with hepatitis you know obviously if she is close to cirrhosis 00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:05.200 and she's dying and there's nothing else that can be done obviously there's a potential treatment 00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:10.320 for her which you know in the light of current research seems to show some fairly significant 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:16.080 results i won't say it doesn't but obviously you've got to understand it in the context that 00:56:16.080 --> 00:56:22.080 dr p understands things in so it's not the last thing to do it's not the first thing to do perhaps 00:56:22.080 --> 00:56:27.120 but it'd be the one of the last things to do if everything else has failed um anyway so my name's 00:56:27.120 --> 00:56:32.720 andrew murray i run a business called western botanical medicine i produce herb extracts of 00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:38.800 medicinal plants i was trained in europe i graduated in england and we do what we love 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:45.280 we've been doing it over 20 years now so all the best to everybody out there who's tuned into the 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:51.920 show who maybe supports our products and our business our whole whole aim is to help you 00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:57.840 naturally anyway thanks for your time and until next month happy new year