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My name is Andrew Murray. 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.000 And my name is Sarah Johannesen Murray. 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:47.000 For those of you who have perhaps never listened to the shows before, they run every third Friday of the month from 7 to 8 PM with questions and a live call in from 7.30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock. 00:02:47.000 --> 00:03:13.000 As has become the custom here, we have Dr. Raymond Peek joining us and this month's topic is going to be the topic of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth with an overview of gastrointestinal motility and the common problems that many patients experience from chronic constipation through your diarrhea and some of those things that can be used to diagnose and some of those things that can be used to treat. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:23.000 The number of you are interested in calling in from 7.30 on 707 923 3911. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:30.000 Once again 707 923 3911 from 7.30 through 8 o'clock. 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:37.000 So once again, we're very pleased to have Dr. Raymond Peek join us and to share with his expertise. Dr. Peat, are you there? 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.000 Yes. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:59.000 Hi, Dr. Peat. Thanks so much for joining us this month again. So for this June episode, June 2021, just a posterity, would you let people know your academic and professional background for perhaps those people who tuned in just now who may not have heard of you before? 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:28.000 I was studying and working in humanities, literature, painting various schools, and I decided to go back to graduate school in biology, physiology in 1968 and got the Ph.D. at University of Oregon in 1972. 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:47.000 And since then have been doing writing about physiology and counseling individuals and doctors about hormones and physiology and nutrition. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:56.000 Okay. I know there's a wealth of information on your website, which we will give out at the end of the show for people who want to find out more about you. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:10.000 Having been guided by you for 11 or 12 years now, I was just thinking over the previous years that we've done radio shows with you and spoken with you. 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:34.000 And having been very interested in the gut as a seat of good health, the ancients always talked about the seat of health being the digestion and assimilation and back in either very early times, you know, with the four humors and diagnosis of the disease that was used. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:42.000 The rudimentary, elementary tract and its assimilation of food and excretion of waste has long been connected with health and ill health. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:06:03.000 And I wanted just to go over what is known now. I think it has been for maybe 20 years, but maybe only in the last five years has there been a significant increase in the diagnosis of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth as a defined pathology, 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:24.000 which people settle with. And over the last 20 years, I've certainly spoken and consulted with a lot of people with gastrointestinal disturbance, either ranging from constipation or diarrhea or alternating IBS type irritable bowel syndrome type digestive complaints. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:46.000 And I know you've mentioned for many different pathologies, serotonin as being a causative inflammatory mediator. And that's also been very enlightening in terms of serotonin in the common conception or the media conception that most people know about serotonin. 00:06:46.000 --> 00:07:00.000 They think there's a positive hormone and actually it's very inflammatory. So I'd like to question you and get your feedback on your understanding of the pathogenesis and development of SIBO. 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:29.000 And just to say that they classify at this point in time under SIBO-C for constipation and SIBO-D for diarrhea. And there is a list of foods called the FODMAP guide to which I'd like to ask questions also because I know that some of the foods you're very interested in specific with dietary requirements 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:44.000 for people wanting to get better health and a lot of things that people eat now that they've told are healthy for them, especially any of those PUFAs that you've been rallying against for a long time now and the seeds and nuts and those kind of foods. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:08:00.000 They appear on a FODMAP list and the FODMAP breaks, the F-O-D-M-A-P breaks down to fermentable oligosaccharides, disaccharides, monosaccharides, and then the polyols, the sugar alcohols. 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:22.000 So before we get into those kind of foods, what do you understand and how much relevance do you give to this type of SIBO with patients that are complaining of diarrhea or the complaining of constipation and what's your approach to it? 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:44.000 Everything can ferment if you aren't digesting it. Some people warn against the FODMAPs as causing problems because they ferment. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:09:09.000 Others promote exactly the same carbohydrates and oligosaccharides and so on just because they do ferment and release short-chain fatty acids, acetate, butyrate, and propionate in particular. 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:22.000 And one doctrine says that those are beneficial, stimulating things that prevent bowel cancer and so on. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:47.000 Others point out that each one of those is a very serious potential toxin, and we do absorb them, and acetate, acetic acid, and butyrate acid, and propionic acid all have their potential value, 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:54.000 but they are also very well known as toxins. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:10:20.000 So generally, I'm inclined to say to the people that prefer not to eat the things which can increase those potentially toxic or chain fatty acids because you can get all your nutrients with things that are resistant to fermentation. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:33.000 The sugars, if you have normal digestive actions, the sugars should be absorbed very high in the small intestine. 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:51.000 Just shortly after leaving your stomach, they should be absorbed, and that area in very healthy people, the stomach and the whole small intestine are sterile. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:11:10.000 The sicker a person is, the farther up the small intestine from the colon, the farther up the bacteria and leather microbes can invade and set up housekeeping. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:22.000 Some people with very weak digestion will actually have fermentation going on in their stomach. 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:38.000 So if they eat sugar or carbohydrate, they can get drunk and have alcohol production going on right in their stomach. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:58.000 Interesting. You said the small intestine could or should be sterile in comparison to the colon, which we recognize as being the major production of proliferative and populated area compared to anything else you can think of, really. 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:05.000 You're saying that the small intestine should essentially be relatively sterile? 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:17.000 Yeah, the very healthy -- something like 15 or 20% of the population who are very healthy have a sterile small intestine. 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:25.000 And the sicker a person is, it tends to increase with age as the metabolic rate slows down. 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:40.000 The farther up in the small intestine, you find more and more bacteria living closer and closer to the stomach as a person develops poor digestion. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:56.000 So because of poor motility, increased transit time and aging and decreased energy, the colonic bacteria then would have a chance to migrate upwards? 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:18.000 Yeah, the digestive fluids and the enzymes should discourage growth, if not just directly killing yeast and bacteria and parasites. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:28.000 Okay, you're listening to Ask Your Herb, Dr. K. M. E. D. Galvigul, 91.1 FM. From 7.30 until 8 o'clock at the end of the show, you're invited to call in with questions. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Dr. Ray Peat, we're discussing small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, generalized inflammatory processes in the GI tract, and certainly some supplemental improvements that can be used, both herbal as well as some antibiotics. 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:54.000 But yeah, the number is 707-923-3911, and Dr. Raymond Peat is joining us. 00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:15.000 Dr. Peat, to go through, again, how they classify SIBO-C and SIBO-D, they talk about hydrogen dominant, the bacteria that produce hydrogen dominant and the bacteria that produce methane. 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:24.000 And they talk about hydrogen dominant bacterial colonies, which are not supposed to be there. That's the whole point. 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:42.000 Associating the patient's symptoms with a diarrheal type SIBO, and then methane dominant species of bacteria that shouldn't be there, specifically associated with constipation. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:15:05.000 I think that's mainly because methane is an anesthetic and slows bowel contractions, and it slows down all biological processes and decreases the metabolic rate. 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:12.000 So it's natural. It should tend towards constipation. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:23.000 So, for the 20% of people have sterile intestines, what should the rest of us do? 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:34.000 80% of the population that doesn't have a sterile small intestine, what are we to do to help keep the bacterial overgrowth down in our small intestine? 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:46.000 Do you remember Dennis Burkett, who studied the diet effects and a particular type of tumor in Africa? 00:15:46.000 --> 00:16:09.000 He popularized the use of a high fiber diet in the U.S. when he reported on the health benefits of the African diet and pointed out that Africans on their typical diet has a 12-hour transit time 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:23.000 for the average American has a 72-hour transit time, half a day versus three days for something to get processed and get out of view. 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:39.000 And so naturally, the African with the very short duration doesn't give putrefaction or fermentation a chance to go very far. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:53.000 And the famous people who popularized yogurt in the diet as a way to suppress putrefaction. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:17:11.000 For example, Metchnikoff and Bogle mallets early in the 20th century and end of the 19th century, they studied different animals that had short or long lifespans. 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:30.000 And they argued that the animals with a short intestine, a colon that just very quickly eliminated and didn't store for a long time the processed food, those were the long-lived animals. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:43.000 Those with a long intestine and a long retention of the putrefying material in the intestine, those were shorter-lived. 00:17:43.000 --> 00:18:02.000 So I saw hypothyroidism as one of the predisposing factors to SIBO in the population along with things like chronic pancreatitis and motor disorders like Parkinson's disease and fibromyalgia. 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:16.000 I saw IBS and fibromyalgia were fairly intimately linked and there was cause for investigating gastric or intestinal dysmotility with fibromyalgia patients. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:34.000 But Parkinson's, that's interesting from a motor neuron perspective in terms of slowing muscular contraction along the GI tract or the constipation side of it. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:55.000 Yeah, I think it's the constipation leading to the neurological problem. And traditionally they've been thinking of Parkinson's disease as a deficiency of dopamine, but dopamine and serotonin are an antagonistic pair. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:12.000 And really the evidence, I think, more strongly indicates that Parkinson's is related to a serotonin excess than just a dopamine deficiency. 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:40.000 And a few people have argued that serotonin can't get from your intestines, your brain, but there is actual evidence that if you have an excess, an undetoxified amount of serotonin in the bloodstream, it can get into the brain and shift the balance away from dopamine. 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:45.000 And you've always said that the bulk of the serotonin produced is produced in the bowel, correct? 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.000 Ninety-five percent of it. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.000 Yeah, okay. 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:58.000 And it's produced the serotonin where thought is what we've been told for the last 30 years that serotonin is the feel-good hormone and it's good for you. 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:25.000 But you view serotonin as a major inflammatory compound and actually the antidepressants that are supposed to be increasing serotonin, they've now retracted that statement and scientists are now saying that serotonin is not blocked by antidepressants like SSRI. 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:33.000 So how did that go wrong there and why is serotonin so inflammatory? 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:43.000 Its natural function in the bowel is to cause contractions and secretion when the bowel is irritated. 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:54.000 Irritation can be mechanical or chemical or biological, but the intestine knows it wants to get rid of something toxic and harmful. 00:20:54.000 --> 00:21:06.000 So it produces serotonin that causes intense contractions and secretions and should wash the toxin out of the bowel. 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:32.000 But if you get a chronic inflammation and irritation, you just get a chronic moderate excess of serotonin that can cause usually just periodic cyclic diarrhea alternating with constipation. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:45.000 So everyone who has had car sickness can relate to the feeling of high serotonin where your intestines are cramping and you feel nauseous. That's all from serotonin, correct? 00:21:45.000 --> 00:22:11.000 Yeah, and one of the effects of serotonin is anxiety. That's now being more and more recognized rather than sleep-inducing. It can cause insomnia and anxiety and the bowel has a big role in that. 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:32.000 So what do you think Dr. P, if I can question you about some of the, I guess we'll start with the FODMAP kind of criteria that the medical industry use as guidance and then ask you a little bit about the breath testing results. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:51.000 There seems to be somewhat disparaging in terms of they're not completely conclusive by any means, but in conjunction with symptoms can lead to a diagnosis and then perhaps the treatment options will be more fairly squared away towards solving it. 00:22:51.000 --> 00:23:06.000 But in terms of the foods that they talk about that are predisposing to these fermentable oligosaccharides and dying monosaccharides, I think avoidance of many of them is very reasonable. 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:25.000 They recommend against beans and lentils, for example, and nuts and wheat and rye. All of those things have other harmful effects as well as the fermentable carbohydrates. 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:42.000 But they do this milk. I mean, that's the thing. And it's not all dairy because they say that even butter and cheese is very low in FODMAP equivalents and that cow's milk essentially encusted and things that are made from milk are quoted as high. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:24:06.000 And I work with a lot of people who want to, they are fairly sure that they are lactose intolerant and obviously a large mainstay of your nutritional advice, which is very supportive and produces a balanced diet in terms of vitamins and nutrients from a fairly select source of foods. 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:20.000 Milk is one of those food groups for which you are a big advocate of drinking milk. And then, how do you feel about people that come over with a "milk" intolerant? 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:34.000 Because most published papers seem to suggest that most people can actually drink a reasonable amount of milk and it's not until they're drinking large amounts of milk that the FODMAP components of the milk are a problem. 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:45.000 Yeah, I think there's a kind of cultist fear of milk that gets mixed up with the research. 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:55.000 And even lactose intolerant people can tolerate a moderate amount, a small amount. 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:09.000 Especially if they start with a small amount, right? Dr. P, if they serve a small amount every day and increase it, then they will start developing over the period of two to four weeks lactase, which is an enzyme required to digest lactose. 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:17.000 But if they haven't been drinking milk, your body won't make enough lactase to digest the glass all of a sudden. 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:41.000 Yeah, there were studies done in ethnic Chinese people in California introducing milk to people who thought they were lactose intolerant. And in a few weeks, taking maybe half a glass at a time, they were able to induce the enzymes. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:52.000 There's probably nothing in the body that isn't inducible given the appropriate circumstances. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:26:10.000 The babies need to process the milk diet. And if they totally go without milk, then it's natural that they would adapt away the digestive enzymes relevant to milk. 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:22.000 But the experiments show that so far, everyone can induce, again, the lactase enzymes. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:44.000 So for somebody with, for example, people that will disclose that they notice a definite change in bowel habits when they are drinking milk and seem to imply that the milk is tending in them to produce kind of pellet stools. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:56.000 I mean, that's not the type of constipation that we are talking about associated with SIBO constipation. But what do you think is happening in that instance in terms of their bowel bacteria? 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:07.000 You think it's a bowel bacteria that are responsible for changes in the stool itself, or are there any other mechanism by which the proteins in the milk may be? 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:28.000 There are several possibilities, including the pasture, the foods that the cow gets. Sometimes they are very allergenic, and the person with allergies to those plants, if the cow is eating them, the milk will trigger those allergies. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:39.000 Especially like if someone is very gluten sensitive and the cow is fed wheat, then it can come through the milk and make a person react poorly to that milk. 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:58.000 Right. And with breast milk, if the mother is eating a lot of allergenic foods, peanuts, for example, the baby will often get constipated. 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:27.000 Okay. So looking at possible diagnostic techniques for people that would be interested in taking this conversation further, if those people that are listening perhaps have really had a bow of fairly chronic GI disturbance leading to either chronic diarrhea and/or chronic constipation with little changing it in terms of anything they never tried. 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:56.000 Checking their body temperature is a good first step because hypometabolism, usually because of thyroid deficiency, sometimes from other nutrient deficiencies, but the hypometabolism lowers your body temperature at the same time, makes your tissues oversensitive. 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:25.000 So just by increasing your body temperature, getting enough easily absorbed glucose and fructose from sucrose, for example, the heat-producing effect of those carbohydrates can be enough to raise your body temperature, reduce the inflammation, and make your intestines better. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.000 And make your intestines go more smoothly. 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:58.000 Let me ask you this then. All the papers that I've read that I've looked at of SIBO, really from 2003 until 2021, that have been done very recently, seem to agree on a microbiome that has been deranged, and they look at two particular species of bacteria, the proteobacteria and the firmicutes. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:16.000 The kind of the sericea, klebsiella, and the pheromonas species of bacteria, saying that in patients with SIBO, the relative decrease in the firmicutes bacteria with an increase in the proteobacteria and the converse in non-SIBO patients. 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:41.000 Do you think there's anything, I was asking a question about Cascara and bowel antibiotic activity of Cascara, but do you think there's anything, what would you think of in terms of wanting to, and it brings up the other question I was going to ask about probiotic use, and how I think perhaps some people may have experimented with probiotics and gotten definite changes in bowel habits and sometimes not for the good. 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:57.000 But in terms of looking at the bacterial colonies that they've done studies on with SIBO and non-SIBO patients, they seem to have a definite consensual agreement on these two particular types of bacteria being in deranged proportions. 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:22.000 Would you be looking at anything other than an antibiotic, which is what they now, coming up with, they've said this antibiotic is particularly effective in doing, basically cleansing the bowel, but would you think of anything else, and that's why I mentioned Cascara and/or probiotics, and what do you think about their use in gastrointestinal disorders like SIBO or IBS? 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:45.000 Well, the Cascara accelerates the movement through the intestine, as well as reducing inflammation and maintaining oxidative energy production, but completely indigestible fiber, specifically cellulose. 00:31:45.000 --> 00:32:13.000 The bulk effect can stimulate peristalsis and speed the movement through the intestine, reducing the chance for toxic fermentation, and making sure that your nutrients, calcium and vitamin D, are anti-inflammatory necessities. 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:42.000 Thyroid is anti-inflammatory, and the flavonoids, one of the reasons I recommend orange juice and milk is that they are both good sources of flavonoids without any of the toxic irritants that you find in some of the flavonoid-rich foods, leaves, 00:32:42.000 --> 00:33:02.000 and some green vegetables that are rich in flavonoids also contain irritants, but orange juice is a very wide-spectrum anti-inflammatory and energy-producing food. 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:22.000 So I think the whole premise about eating foods that don't feed bacteria, like avoiding the refined processed grains and starches, is that then you'll have a reduction in bacteria in your small intestine as well as your large intestine, 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:44.000 and that's why you also recommend antibacterial foods like grated raw carrot, bamboo shoots, well-cooked mushrooms, oat bran in some instances to help increase the transit time as well as to act as a natural, gentle antimicrobial in both places, 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:49.000 because they'll be antimicrobial in the small intestine as well as the large intestine, correct? 00:33:49.000 --> 00:34:00.000 And aspirin sometimes is a big help to decrease the bacterial activity. 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:03.000 You all have a caller. 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:17.000 Okay, good. Well, let me just start by saying this. You're listening to Ask Your Herb Dr. K. Medigalahville 91.1 FM. It's now 7.30 or thereabouts, and you're welcome to call in with questions for Dr. Raymond Peat. 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:25.000 And the number is 707-923-3911, and we have our first caller. Where are you from? What's your question? 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:35.000 Yes, sir. I'm calling from Redwood, California. I eat primarily 70% vegetables, 20% dairy, cheese, yogurt. 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:52.000 You can also make a homemade flax soda bread, and then the other 10% is like salad dressings. This is like my summertime eating method, and I use a sweetener that is stevia. 00:34:52.000 --> 00:35:04.000 And when I usually finish off the meal, there's usually a tiny trace of some sort of sweetener like sugar or some other sweetener, honey, that may be in that. 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:18.000 So I finished off the meal with -- I'm going to butcher this Latin word, so pardon me -- "pa de arco." And it's an Amazonian -- 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:24.000 Sure. Tapaburi. Tapaburi in protagonist. 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:30.000 So the question was, is that good? 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.000 Okay, well, everyone has different ideas about good nutrition, but 70% vegetable. 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:46.000 I know, Dr. Peat, you would definitely recommend well-cooking those, and 20% dairy. I'm not too sure what you think about that, I will know. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:54.000 And obviously, from a herbal point of view, pa de arco has been well known as an anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:07.000 And in fact, last month's radio show we mentioned pa de arco and those dark red pigments that come from either a ethanol extraction or even simply decopting the herb 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:13.000 and how they have an electronic activity that is a very anti-inflammatory activity. 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.000 And this substance is lapachyl and others that have been isolated. 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:29.000 Dr. Peat, as a mainstay, nutritional breakdown, 70% veg, 20% dairy, soda bread, and very, very little sugars in the form of stevia. 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:38.000 I'm not sure that stevia is safe in large quantities, but a small amount is probably okay. 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:47.000 And soda bread, does that mean that it's a baking powder quick-rising? 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:53.000 That tends to leave most of the gluten intact. 00:36:53.000 --> 00:37:03.000 But if it agrees with your intestine, doesn't cause inflammation, then that means your bowel health is pretty good. 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:18.000 And cooked, very well cooked vegetables are fine if a person doesn't have any problem with them. 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.000 The one thing I would think with an analysis of that is the protein. 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.000 I'm not sure where your protein is coming from besides the dairy. 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:38.000 Do you include eggs in your diet and/or any type of shellfish or other nutrient-rich proteins? 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:48.000 Engineer, I don't know if we have the caller on the line still, but they hung up on it. 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.000 Okay. Well, maybe that caller is not on the air anymore. I'm not too sure. 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.000 So the engineer is not responding with the fact that they are or aren't. 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.000 No, they're not. They hung up. 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:03.000 Okay. Okay. Well, anyway, let me just say once again, you're listening to ask your doctor. 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:07.000 Can you de-galve for 91.1 FM from now until the end of the show? 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.000 You're invited to call into questions related or unrelated to this month's subject of SIBO. 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:18.000 Small intestine, bacterial overgrowth, GI upset, number 07, 9233911. 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.000 Okay. Actually, this caller came back. 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.000 Okay. Go ahead, son. 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.000 Hi, caller. 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.000 Yes, are you there? 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:29.000 Yes. 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.000 You can hear me. Okay, great. 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.000 Can you hear Dr. Peat's answer? 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.000 Yes. I just wanted to answer his question. 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.000 He asked if the bread was baked. 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.000 If I had any distress, no. 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:48.000 Our family, a lot of our family are Scottish Irish, so it's something that's – 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.000 it's been a tradition, our family, for a very long time since my father. 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.000 And the other question was – well, you go ahead. I'm sorry. 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.000 No, that's okay. I just was wondering if – yes. 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.000 Protein, do you have – do we include eggs in your diet or other – 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.000 Yes. Yes, I eat a lot of eggs. 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:12.000 Okay. I don't know if that was included in the 20% dairy. 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:18.000 Well, that was included in the other 30%, you know, like the salad dressing, 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.000 the miscellaneous cheese, et cetera. That was part of that 30%. 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:29.000 Okay. Okay, good. Well, thanks for your call, and I hope you have a good night. 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.000 Thank you. 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:39.000 Dr. Peat, to just wrap up on the SIBO diagnosis and/or then further on treatment 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:44.000 before we get into the other subject here that I think we'll begin with, 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:49.000 but then we'll wrap up and talk more extensively on next month 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:54.000 in terms of transhumanism and the coming change in corporate structures 00:39:54.000 --> 00:40:00.000 of treating us as people with medicines, other questionable medicines. 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.000 What do you think about the use then? 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:10.000 Obviously, there's one particular antibiotic used which is getting pretty good success 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.000 in treating SIBO by deranging, again, bowel bacteria. 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.000 Do you think probiotics that are labeled probiotics, 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.000 we have typical species that would normally reside in the bowel 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:31.000 as being positive in terms of recolonizing and safely changing the floor, 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:38.000 because it really is a balancing act which does not want any unwanted bacteria 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.000 to take out permanent residence. 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.000 That's exactly how SIBO starts in the first place. 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.000 What do you think of antibiotics? 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.000 I know we all agree that antibiotics are a very good form of treatment 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:56.000 for a lot of different things, but antibiotics and recolonization. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:03.000 There are several bacteria, in particular some fungus, 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:10.000 that produce antibiotics themselves. 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:16.000 So they are a combination of probiotic and antibiotic. 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:25.000 They kill off a lot of harmful bacteria by antibiotics that they are producing. 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:35.000 But you can usually tell within a few hours if an antibiotic supplement 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:40.000 is going to help your digestive symptoms. 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:51.000 I think there's too much rigmarole in the diagnosis of digestive problems. 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:58.000 A lot of people have forgotten or never realized 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.000 that tapping your abdomen in different places, 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:11.000 you can identify whether you have a fluid accumulation or just gas. 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:15.000 You can identify a pocket of gas. 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.000 Sometimes it's where you wouldn't expect it to be. 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:25.000 It should be just in the colon area. 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.000 But if you're getting gas throughout your small intestine, 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:37.000 that will make your whole belly resound like a watermelon. 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:44.000 Just to confirm this, most people don't think that gas production, 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.000 obviously apart from its social disagreement, 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.000 is a problem that you should not produce gas, period, right? 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.000 I mean, there's nothing good about it. 00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:04.000 No, and in fact, too much methane has those stasis-producing effects 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.000 leading to constipation. 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:15.000 And the diagnosis, if you find methane in your breath or coming out of your skin 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:21.000 and so on, it doesn't prove that you have methane-producing bacteria 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:27.000 because our own mitochondria, when they're under stress, 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:32.000 like in the presence of drinking too much alcohol, 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:40.000 our own mitochondria produce considerable amounts of methane. 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:49.000 So any stress can lead to methane appearing in all of our secretions. 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:57.000 So when you mentioned different fungi that can act as a probiotic and an antibiotic, 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.000 are you referring to species like the Saccharomyces boulardii? 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.000 Yeah. 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.000 Or are you thinking of other species? 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.000 No, that's the only one I know of. 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.000 Okay, so what do you think about... 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.000 Let me quickly ask you what you think about garlic 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:17.000 and allicin extract-rich garlic, because in England, 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.000 there's a company that's been producing this for some time now, 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:25.000 and I've got a lot of fans there about it 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.000 in terms of correcting intestinal dysbiosis. 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:35.000 Obviously, it's got a very strong sulfur moiety attached to it, 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.000 which is credited in some of its activity. 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.000 But I'm right in thinking that you believe that a lot of people 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.000 are fairly reactive to garlic in terms of its irritating effects 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.000 and not just its social effects. 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.000 But what do you think about the compound anacin 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.000 and garlic in general, the sulfhydryl compounds? 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:59.000 Yeah, those hot compounds can be harmful to your stomach 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.000 and an intestine if you eat large amounts of them. 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:09.000 They do kill bacteria, but they also can kill your digestive system, 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.000 epithelial cells. 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.000 I think the highest rate of stomach cancer in the world is Bhutan. 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:22.000 My friend visited Bhutan, and their diet consists of a lot of chili peppers, 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.000 and they have the highest rate of stomach cancer. 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:32.000 Yeah, Central America has a lot of stomach cancer associated with hot chilies. 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.000 Okay, well, I just wanted to bring out the other compounds 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.000 that would be useful in terms of its antibacterial effect. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.000 And certainly, there are papers written that suggest 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.000 that Berberis vulgaris contained in the exploit berberine 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.000 are very useful in the treatment of SIBO. 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.000 And to some extent, Hydrastis, golden seal containing berberine also 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.000 is used, but berberine hydrochloride, I think, is the main component. 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:06.000 Okay, so let's just open up the topic for those who are listening 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:11.000 and have listened to the previous 9 months or 10 months or so 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.000 that we've been discussing COVID-19. 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:22.000 And all of the nefarious activity, both in the origin of it and the cover-up, 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.000 and then the cover-up for the simple, safe, and effective treatment of it 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.000 rather than any biological agent, which is called a vaccine, 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:36.000 but which defies any of the parameters, the vaccine's definition. 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:45.000 The coming transhumanism, I've heard people like Alex Jones in the past 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.000 a long time ago when I used to listen to him. 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:54.000 He talked about transhumanism 10, 15 years ago, and here we are. 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:59.000 And we see people like Elon Musk rising to these kind of heights 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.000 through his industries becoming a figure of public importance. 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:11.000 Obviously, he's cautioning us about artificial intelligence, certainly. 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:16.000 But the things like implantable chips that you put in your brother, 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.000 he's talking about neurobiology and wiring people's brains 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:26.000 to these implantable chips that will give them "superhuman power." 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:35.000 And part and parcel of the COVID-19 debate lies in the technology used 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:41.000 to produce this experimental drug, which they call the vaccine, the mRNA vaccine. 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:47.000 But your thoughts on the changes that society is going through, 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.000 and it's undoubtable that we can ignore or deny, 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:56.000 that society has gone through probably one of the greatest upheavals 00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:02.000 psychologically and socially, and has happened really since either 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.000 probably the Second World War, but it's been a long time 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.000 since such a great upheaval has happened. 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:12.000 And now we're being told that the platform, the mRNA platform 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:16.000 upon which this experimental drug has been cheaply and easily 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:22.000 and quickly scaled up to such numbers that they can distribute it worldwide. 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.000 The collaboration with two other countries, Italy 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:31.000 and the other country was Switzerland, I think. 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:34.000 But the manufacture of these mRNA vaccines, 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.000 what we're calling vaccines is mRNA experimental drugs, 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:43.000 is going to increase to any and every disease that you can think of. 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.000 And yet the whole platform, the mRNA platform, 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.000 is, quote-unquote, giving us over to genetic changes 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.000 that are essentially going to put us at risk as a species moving forward, 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.000 and it's not going to stop. 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:06.000 I've been for several months looking for what the actual scientific rationale 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:16.000 might be for shifting from traditional vaccines killed or inactivated bacteria 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.000 or viruses, for example. 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:25.000 What the reason was for this sudden shift of all of the vaccine companies 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.000 towards a nucleic acid. 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.000 Well, they want to say time, don't they? 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:32.000 What? 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.000 They want to argue that the time to produce that is why they've done it, 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.000 because it's so quick to do it this way. 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.000 I mean, isn't that the...? 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:48.000 I don't think there has been any clear scientific explanation for why they did it. 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:55.000 You can shortcut all of the traditional methods of making vaccines. 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:03.000 What they did was skip ordinary animal and safety testing to speed it up. 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.000 But when you look at the individuals behind these companies, 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:15.000 you see that years ago, they were talking about genetic engineering, 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:26.000 and in justifying why they have come up with the RNA vaccines, 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:34.000 they are describing them as changing our genetic operating system, 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:41.000 treating us like a computer, and simply improving our operating system, 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:50.000 changing the genome in the context of all of these people justifying 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:59.000 why they would use nucleic acids instead of traditional activators of the immune system. 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:03.000 So we are becoming the genetically modified organism. 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:11.000 We might vote to block the production of genetically modified organisms, 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:16.000 enhance food, but now we are becoming the genetically modified organism. 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:34.000 And when Tony Fauci heard the suggestions of the evidence that the RNA can be copied back, 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:44.000 reversed, transcribed into our DNA, he said that doesn't happen or can't happen, and so on. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:53.000 He indicated either total ignorance of 50 years of nucleic acid research 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:59.000 showing that everyone contains the reverse transcriptase, 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:06.000 which whenever RNA enters the cell, a foreign type of it, 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:17.000 it's able to be transcribed into DNA, and the DNA doesn't have to enter the nucleus even. 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:24.000 It can be a perpetual part of the cell, an inherited part of the cell, 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:33.000 even though it was transcribed from a foreign added RNA or other nucleic acid. 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:39.000 So they might try to tell you that it's not permanent and your body will stop producing it, 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:46.000 but what you're saying is 50 years of research has shown that these changes can very easily become permanent. 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:53.000 Yes, and there have been demonstrations that our excess album system, 00:52:53.000 --> 00:53:02.000 which is designed to create these little particles like viruses to communicate proteins 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:10.000 and genetic information from one cell to other cells that aren't differentiated properly, 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:16.000 an internal regulatory system of our own genes, 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:25.000 that has been demonstrated to be open to receiving foreign DNA and RNA 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:32.000 and packaging it in exosomes so that we participate. 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:44.000 Our own mechanism becomes like a virus factory copying and spreading the foreign DNA or RNA. 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:53.000 This is exactly what Tal Zaks, the former CEO of Moderna, was quoted as saying, 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.000 that same thing in 2017 when he was interviewed. 00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:02.000 There's an article online that is basically a transcript of the interview 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:09.000 and mentioning that this platform, the mRNA platform, is going to be so rapidly scaled up, 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.000 it's so cheap, it's so quick, and it's going to be the future. 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:19.000 He had questions about the whole thing about integrating DNA or from RNA into us 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:24.000 and actually changing us genomically, and we would have hereditary consequences. 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.000 And he said the same thing that you've said about you. 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.000 You've said that it's not possible, it doesn't happen, don't worry about it. 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:43.000 He's actually an oncologist, and he was proposing genetic engineering as cancer treatment. 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:53.000 And years ago, I think Biden was the instigator or the figurehead for the idea, 00:54:53.000 --> 00:55:03.000 the Cancer Moonshot, they called it, which was based on basically genetic engineering on an individual basis 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:09.000 to change the genes of your cancer. 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:16.000 So the other thing that I kind of thought about, we've mentioned this since March, 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:21.000 since we just started doing the ask your doctor shows based around COVID, 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:26.000 and just showing all the time that this mortality was actually very low 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:31.000 and that there was definitely optional treatments like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:37.000 from the very beginning, and the whistleblower doctors who said that these things were effective, 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.000 and then they carried on talking about these same treatments, which are very inexpensive, 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:49.000 very safe, and very effective, and we don't need this experimental drug. 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:54.000 Leave me on, think about the whole, you know, Covis Alimentarius 00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.000 and the World Economic Forum being a platform upon which governments who, 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:07.000 well, not will, probably are superseding citizens of countries in tandem, 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:13.000 in concert with other governments, and it is certainly not a conspiracy theory, folks. 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:17.000 It's a reality, and there's plenty of evidence to show and support that. 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:23.000 We're not spouting scary stories here, it's just factual evidence. 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:27.000 I think, as you mentioned, Dr. Peat, probably in the next two to five years, 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:34.000 we'll get borne out with any increased deaths that would come about from either 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:41.000 exposure to other regular foods as a result of the enhanced activity of the immune system 00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:46.000 through this experimental drug, but basically to life in general, 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.000 in our lifestyles, being forced into a certain direction. 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:56.000 And this is the humanism part of what I want to get into with you next month 00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:00.000 in more detail, and just lay it out for people, because the shows are listened to, 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:06.000 and certainly the audio archives are listened to, and the internet is full 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:10.000 of these interviews that we've done with you on YouTube and other areas. 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.000 So it's not like it's going to go away, and it's been laid down for right now, 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.000 and people will hear it through. 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:19.000 As time goes on, the truth will come out a little bit like some of the atrocities 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:25.000 of the Second World War and other instances where this activity was shouted about, 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.000 but no one listened, but afterwards it all came out, 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:32.000 and they had to agree that what was being shouted was actually the truth. 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.000 So thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Peat. 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.000 Okay, thank you. 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:42.000 It's three minutes to the hour, so rather than anything else carrying on, 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.000 I'd rather give people your information, 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000 point them to where they can find out more about you, 00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:51.000 and to thank you so much for your time on the show tonight. 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.000 Okay, thank you. 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.000 Thank you, Dr. Peat. Good night. 00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:55.000 Good night. 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:58.000 So for people who've listened to the show this evening, 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:06.000 more can be found out about Dr. Peat and his 40, 50-year work here on Earth. 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:14.000 His website is www.raypeat.com, 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:18.000 and you can find out lots of reference articles that he's written. 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:22.000 He's been working in this field of alternative science 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.000 for the narrative for 30 years and more, 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:28.000 working with people and counseling, et cetera, 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.000 and we've certainly enjoyed our time with him. 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:35.000 He's been very eye-opening in lots of things that we thought were true, 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.000 but have been educated beyond that, 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.000 and now seeing that we are not the conspiracists, 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.000 but actually the people with some of the more important information. 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.000 So my name is Andrew Murray. 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.000 My name is Sarah Johannesen Murray. 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:52.000 Thank you for listening this evening, and we hope you have a great solstice. 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.000 And we can also be looked at. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.000 Our website is www.westerandbotanicalmedicine.com. 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:02.000 And until the third Friday of next month, July, 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:07.000 we will be picking up on this transhumanism subject 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:12.000 and looking at particularly the science that's pushing us forward in this direction. 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.000 I'm not saying we will want to go in it, 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:18.000 but I think unfortunately he's going to be taking people. 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:22.000 So until this same time, next month, the third Friday of next month, good night. 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.000 Good night. 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:37.000 [Music] 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:41.000 Okay, so I failed to read the cards at the top of the hour, 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:47.000 so I want to let you know that Herbal MedRx creates organic herbal products, 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.000 including bath and body oil, salves, deodorants, herbal teas, 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.000 CBD products, essential oil blends, and more. 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:59.000 Visit www.herbalmedRx.com to see all products and events. 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.240 You can reach through lekasha at herbal med rx by phone