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Welcome to this month's Ask Your 00:05:10.880 --> 00:05:23.280 Herb Doctor, the see here November 19th edition 2021. My name is Andrew Murray. My name is Sarah 00:05:23.280 --> 00:05:29.680 Johannesen Murray. Welcome to our show, Ask Your Herb Doctor. For those of you who just joined us 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:36.720 or have never heard the show before, it runs every third Friday of the month from 7 to 8 pm. We have 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:43.920 a call in, a live call in from 7 30 until the close of the show at 8 o'clock. People are invited 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:52.480 to call in with any questions related to the topic that we're discussing. As has become very 00:05:52.480 --> 00:06:01.520 customary now, Dr. Peat is our guest and joining us to share his knowledge. Last month in October, 00:06:01.520 --> 00:06:08.720 we opened up a discussion which we couldn't finish in a month and it was concerning metabolic 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:18.640 defects in cancer and also the approach to cancer, the strategies for alternative approaches to 00:06:18.640 --> 00:06:28.240 cancer. Dr. Peat has for 35, 40 years been researching and working in alternative medicine 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:35.840 approaches to physiology and has a website with a wealth of information that we'll be giving help 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:41.760 towards the end of the show. Let me just see if Dr. Peat is with us and go from there. Dr. Peat, 00:06:41.760 --> 00:06:51.200 are you with us? Yes, I can just barely hear you. Okay, I wonder if you have a volume. Do you have a 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:58.480 volume setting on your phone? It's a tinny quality. It isn't the volume, it's a blurry tinny quality. 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:03.760 Yeah, you guys sound like you're on a speaker phone or something maybe. You're not the best 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:10.160 connection. I think it's okay if callers don't think so, they'll pipe up though. Let me just 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:16.560 ask both of you if this is any clearer now. Did either of you hear that better? I heard a click 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.400 and I think it got better but I was also switching from one thing to another here but I think that 00:07:20.400 --> 00:07:25.600 is a little better. Yeah, Dr. Peat, do you hear that any better? I can hear you but not the end of 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:34.800 an error. Oh dear. I think that aspect, that's an aspect of our board I think but he doesn't need to 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:42.240 hear me. You guys are the important ones. Yeah, okay. At this point I'm not too sure Sarah can hear us, 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:48.480 that's the only thing. Well, I think we probably just better carry on this way then and just 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:55.760 sometime during Dr. Peat's explanation of some of the questioning we'll be going through to tonight 00:07:55.760 --> 00:08:03.280 when perhaps I can get Sarah on and she can be part of that otherwise. Okay, so Dr. Peat, thanks 00:08:03.280 --> 00:08:09.200 so much for giving your time again this month. Would you just let people know more about you 00:08:09.200 --> 00:08:19.120 from an academic research perspective and then we can carry on the show? Okay, in the 60s I was 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:28.880 studying various subjects in humanities and I decided to go into biology to study the brain 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:41.440 mainly but when I got to graduate school in 1968 my interest went to aging and its influence on the 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:53.760 metabolism of largely the reproductive process, how reproduction influences the general process 00:08:53.760 --> 00:09:02.080 of aging and since then I've been following up the same general topics, aging, stress, 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:11.360 sickness and especially how the hormones, reproductive hormones can accelerate or 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:22.640 retard the process of aging. Okay, so in terms of a hormonal physiology for aging that's been 00:09:22.640 --> 00:09:29.200 your specialism and I know you've worked in many other relative branches of that surrounding natural 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:35.360 health care. Last month we opened up a kind of discussion on the alternative approaches 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:43.680 to cancer with an emphasis on the metabolic defects which you have fairly set principles 00:09:43.680 --> 00:09:51.120 that you have uncovered over time, some of which obviously don't line up with kind of regular 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:57.040 medicine. I know you have a very alternative perspective towards treating people and I think 00:09:57.040 --> 00:10:01.440 I'm right in saying that the first do no harm rationale will be something you hold quite 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:10.720 closely. Modern cancer therapy and chemotherapy and radiotherapy, I don't think these are modalities 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:18.480 of which you are at all in favor of but that's a very personal choice that each patient who's 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.000 going through cancer therapy has to come up against but obviously going through 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:30.480 herbal medicine and alternative medicines, most people perhaps looking for alternatives are not 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:41.360 looking at conventional treatment anyway. Last month we covered cellular mitochondrial activity 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:51.120 and how that produces energy. We discussed the myth of sugar being cancer-promoting 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:57.360 which is fairly rife in the mainstream. It seems to be repeated almost daily that sugar is 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:03.760 something to be avoided for almost everything and you've dispelled that myth for sure. 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:13.120 Then the kind of neuroendocrine dysregulation, you mentioned things like estrogen driving not 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:20.560 only breast but other cancers and then the what they call the kind of hypothalamic pituitary 00:11:20.560 --> 00:11:30.480 access where stress produces cortisol and through chronic stress the immune system can suffer and 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:37.040 how this is all part and parcel of a kind of weakened organism that does that in some ways 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:46.800 predispose to the lack of surveillance. So the last thing I think we got to was looking at redox 00:11:46.800 --> 00:11:55.200 balancing and mentioning that the flavonoids are a fairly diverse group of plant products 00:11:56.640 --> 00:12:06.560 in many, many different areas can be used to quench free radical damage which is part and 00:12:06.560 --> 00:12:16.480 parcel also of cancer in its own right. I had some abstracts and that got my interest. I know you're 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:26.560 a big proponent of saturated fats and you do not at all adhere to polyunsaturated being in any way 00:12:26.560 --> 00:12:33.520 healthy or beneficial for the organism and actually very much destruction and inflammation is caused 00:12:33.520 --> 00:12:41.520 by them. So the abstracts I was looking at were things like lipid peroxidation which we have 00:12:41.520 --> 00:12:47.680 talked about on many different shows at many different times and this peroxidation and 00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:56.320 byproducts of lipid metabolism or lipid oxidation is what happens. These have been things that have 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:04.720 been shown to promote cancer. So the whole rationale of people using these omega 3s and 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:11.440 6s and fish oils as being "healthy" is absolutely not what you want to be using 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:17.760 if you've got a cancer diagnosis or even if you don't have a cancer diagnosis. How about that? 00:13:18.400 --> 00:13:27.280 Yeah a couple of the abstracts you're referring to I think mentioned that on a high fish oil diet 00:13:27.280 --> 00:13:39.360 the metastasis was about a thousand times worse than on a low fat diet or even a fat 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:47.840 efficient diet. Just a huge difference from supplementing fish oil versus not having fat. 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:58.720 And we can make all of the unsaturated and saturated fats that we need from carbohydrates. 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:04.480 So we don't really need any fats in the diet except for the pleasant taste 00:14:05.280 --> 00:14:13.200 and helping to absorb other nutrients. These abstracts in particular showed the tremendous 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:24.400 prone metastatic effect of the fish oil fats. I saw the other references particularly for 00:14:24.400 --> 00:14:33.760 liver metastasis and cancer growth in the liver. Obviously the liver is one of the major organs 00:14:33.760 --> 00:14:42.640 blood flows through and so vascular-borne cancers that travel to different sites through the 00:14:42.640 --> 00:14:48.080 vasculature can certainly become picked up in the liver and the liver itself because it's 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:57.680 kind of sinusoidal organ like a sponge if you like a matrix of very many capillaries and 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:07.600 openings and ducts and places where cancers can settle and grow are quite often seen in 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:18.000 cancer as a secondary spread to the liver. The other articles here that I saw said that these 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:23.440 omega-3s in particular I think the sixes were probably also implicated but the omega-3s 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:32.400 promoted along cancer metastasis to the liver and again there was a direct causal relationship 00:15:32.400 --> 00:15:44.800 between these omega-3s and liver metastases. But Dr. Peat? Yes. Can you hear me okay? Yes. 00:15:46.640 --> 00:15:54.880 So this lipid peroxidation or rancid fat that or when we eat fat it can go rancid if it's not 00:15:54.880 --> 00:16:01.840 saturated and that's known as lipid peroxidation that applies to not only the fish oils but also 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:08.320 like all the vegetable seed oils right like the canola and the soy and all the vegetable oils. 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:18.000 The more highly unsaturated they are the quicker they break down and some of the oxidative breakdown 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:25.360 is almost immediately just as soon as it gets absorbed from your intestine and shows up in 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:34.080 your bloodstream you can find the highly oxidized breakdown fragments of the 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:44.800 polyunsaturated fats like fish oil. Did I hear you correctly stating that metastasis is a thousand 00:16:44.800 --> 00:16:51.600 times worse in a fatty diet versus a non-fat diet? A couple of these studies found that 00:16:51.600 --> 00:17:03.280 the number and quantity of identifiable metastatic cancer was in these cases a thousand times higher 00:17:05.040 --> 00:17:14.080 and this would again lead to people that have talked about ketogenic diets. This is absolutely 00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:24.240 the last thing you want to be doing right? Yeah and in the process of getting the ketogenic effect 00:17:25.360 --> 00:17:35.920 but basically it's starvation and stress that turns on the so-called ketone production but 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:46.000 actually the so-called ketone bodies one of the major ketone bodies is actually not a ketone but 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:58.240 an alcohol hydroxyl group as a potential ketone but in the hydroxyl state which is formed during 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:08.320 the ketogenic diet this becomes a reductant having an effect similar to lactic acid which is 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:21.600 a trigger to shift oxidation towards the fermentation or the lactic acid metabolism 00:18:21.600 --> 00:18:31.600 typical of cancer and once anything interferes with your ability to oxidize glucose fully 00:18:33.280 --> 00:18:45.520 that liberates any stored fatty acids you have in your tissues and everyone has an abundance of fat 00:18:45.520 --> 00:18:57.200 mixed right into their functioning tissues and in the ketogenic state you are releasing free fatty 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:08.880 acids into the bloodstream and all of the liberated free fatty acids that have been studied promote 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:21.120 metastasis it isn't just the extremely toxic fish oil type but just the the fact of being a fatty 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:31.600 acid rather than a sugar there's many years ago someone named Randall noticed that when you're 00:19:31.600 --> 00:19:40.560 if you increase the fat in your diet and it turns into free fatty acids the free fatty acids 00:19:40.560 --> 00:19:50.720 block the particular enzyme of pyruvate dehydrogenase which lets us oxidize glucose 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:59.200 all the way to carbon dioxide and the free fatty acids directly activate the 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:07.840 enzyme that knocks out our ability to oxidize glucose and so once you get ketogenic 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:18.800 from some degree of starvation then you're poisoning your ability to fully oxidize glucose 00:20:18.800 --> 00:20:29.760 that leaves it producing lactic acid and when the pyruvate dehydrogenase is poisoned by various 00:20:29.760 --> 00:20:37.840 things but especially free fatty acids then you shift over to the cancer metabolism producing 00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:51.200 lactic acid which shifts the metabolism of other cells in the same direction. So would that apply 00:20:51.200 --> 00:21:00.320 to saturated fat but at a lesser extent? Yeah in some cases certain saturated fats 00:21:00.320 --> 00:21:09.920 don't do that at all but on average whenever it's been studied the Randall effect works as soon as 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:17.440 our glucose oxidation is interfered with by rising free fatty acids. 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:29.600 Right so this isn't really alternative medicine because this is scientifically backed 00:21:29.600 --> 00:21:35.040 and researched information that Dr. Peat's sharing with us tonight that 00:21:35.040 --> 00:21:43.600 might not be applied in orthodox medical treatment of cancer but this is in no way 00:21:43.600 --> 00:21:52.480 on the fringe of science this is this is scientific information. Yeah it actually 00:21:53.760 --> 00:22:01.600 represents 60 more more than 60 years of investigating what is actually happening 00:22:01.600 --> 00:22:08.000 in the metabolism of stress and cancer and the whole thing that has developed in the last 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:17.360 50 years of saying that cancer eats sugar cancer lives on sugar therefore if you stop eating sugar 00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:25.280 you'll start with a cancer that's absolutely 100% wrong. What sugar starvation does 00:22:25.280 --> 00:22:38.000 is cause the Randall cycle to take effect blocking your ability to oxidize sugar 00:22:39.120 --> 00:22:49.760 fully so you oxidize your fermented producing lactic acid which promotes more of the cancer 00:22:49.760 --> 00:23:01.360 metabolism and creates inflammation and brings up the cortisol stress hormones that break down 00:23:01.360 --> 00:23:14.640 proteins to make more of the glucose or amino acids which will feed the cancer 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:24.320 the fatty acids themselves are good food for the cancer but at a certain point of wasting away 00:23:24.320 --> 00:23:33.920 from cancer fatty acids aren't very abundant in the body and so the lactic acid metabolism is 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:44.640 maintained by turning body proteins into glucose and amino acids to support the lactic acid 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:52.640 metabolism of cancer. So in general when you consult with people that might have cancer 00:23:53.760 --> 00:24:01.360 would you recommend them to eat then a non-fat or very low-fat diet and a very high sucrose 00:24:01.360 --> 00:24:08.080 and fructose diet? Yeah carbohydrates in general especially sucrose. 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:17.440 Which is sugar folks and honey and sugar chemically identical. Yeah I think it was last 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:30.000 month I mentioned the grape diet it was famous in the 40s and 50s. It was a very high glucose 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:37.920 and sucrose diet combined with a very high intake of the anti-inflammatory flavonoids 00:24:39.040 --> 00:24:48.080 but those are two of the very important anti-cancer agents the anti-inflammatory 00:24:48.080 --> 00:24:59.200 component of the diet that you get in fruits and vegetables and then the abundance of the minerals 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:08.080 and other nutrients of fruit but an abundance of sucrose so that you don't recur don't resort to 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:13.840 any tendency to liberate fatty acids. 00:25:13.840 --> 00:25:23.840 Okay you're listening to ask your doctor KMUD 91.1 FM from 730 to the end of the show. Callers are 00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:29.680 welcome to call in with questions related to this month's continuing topic of cancer and cancer 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:38.800 alternatives. Again a number if you're outside or even in the area 707 923 3911 our guest speaker 00:25:38.800 --> 00:25:46.160 Dr Raymond Peat. Dr Peat I wanted to I wanted to question you about something that 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:56.080 from a herbal medicine perspective is very important for you know basically as an anti-cancer 00:25:56.080 --> 00:26:06.800 strategy as well as recognizing the the actual function and value of the lymphatics in I know 00:26:06.800 --> 00:26:16.080 in breast cancer and lymph nodes obviously become congested they pick up cancer cells, 00:26:16.080 --> 00:26:22.720 they are true they are primarily white cell surveillance sites with other cells that are 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:27.920 killer cells etc they're doing some kind of routine surveillance of all of the fluids that 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:33.600 are constantly passing through them but I wanted to get to the point of a few years ago now it 00:26:33.600 --> 00:26:37.600 hasn't been discovered long I think I read in a science magazine maybe two or three years ago 00:26:37.600 --> 00:26:48.240 a new organ that science had finally uncovered and it was because of a laser type treatment 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:57.440 of endoscopy that previously when they had fixed tissue to look at microscopically 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:05.440 they saw that these collagen sheaths and bundles look fairly flattened and fairly solid in these 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:12.160 tissues but yet when they use these lasers they saw that these were structural cavities that were 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:19.680 filled with fluid and they called this this material this ground substance and the interstitium 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:29.600 and they now say that this interstitium is a fit organ and primarily I think one of the largest 00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:37.920 organ in the body but it's responsible obviously for the metastases of cancer cells 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:43.520 and in herbal medicine like I said the the principle word that I think of 00:27:44.800 --> 00:27:52.160 is pogru has been traditionally used for breast cancer as well as other cancers certainly has 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:58.960 lymphatic immunostimulant anti-inflammatory activity and like I said it's definitely been 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:05.600 used it's certainly in Europe ongoing and it's been in the herbal pharmacopoeia for many years 00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:11.280 in the treatment of cancers and specifically for lymphatic cancers and breast cancers but 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.480 what do you what do you understand about the interstitium and this so-called ground 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:27.120 substance through which I think some of these compounds I think one namely now the main compound 00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:35.280 from phytolacca is having its activity with but obviously other agents get into the lymphatics 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:43.200 that is obviously a pathway for many different substances the following structures have been 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:54.800 identified within this previously thought to be amorphous extravascular system a Korean 00:28:54.800 --> 00:29:02.560 named Bongan Kim I think it was in the 1960s called it the third circulatory system 00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:15.520 and what are now known as the exosomes a large number of these small vesicles secreted by cells 00:29:15.520 --> 00:29:24.320 are transported outside the blood vessels some of them in inside the ordinary 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:35.040 blood stream but many of them flow through apparent channels in the extracellular material 00:29:35.040 --> 00:29:46.880 that seem to be almost specific for carrying the lipid the micro vesicles or exosomes 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:56.160 from a cell under stress to to a cell which is for example in the bone marrow that can 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:05.040 produce repair factors and send it back through the the various circulatory systems lymphatic 00:30:05.040 --> 00:30:13.920 or the extra lymphatic when identified by the Korean or via the bloodstream itself 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:22.640 to either correct a tumor or in some cases make it worse depending on the state of the organism 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:30.240 and we have a couple of callers okay we're good let's um let's hold that hold that there kind of 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:35.760 just got into the subject of connective tissue health as it shows uh can I take the direction 00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:40.080 of this next subject but let's take this first caller uh caller you're on the air where are you 00:30:40.080 --> 00:30:46.400 from what's your question uh it was a local person who's was a very bad connection but I was able to 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:51.440 they very simple they wanted to know uh what you thought of flax oil and what you thought of avocados 00:30:51.440 --> 00:31:04.160 uh avocados are good enough very pleasant nutritious food but uh you don't want to 00:31:05.760 --> 00:31:14.560 eat very large quantities as a regular quantity just because there is some unsaturated 00:31:14.560 --> 00:31:25.200 polyunsaturated fat in it and the the flax oil is also a very highly polyunsaturated 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:35.760 so it the flax meal has a laxative effect a bulk laxative action 00:31:35.760 --> 00:31:41.600 so the flax meal can be a protective anti-cancer but you don't want to 00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:53.040 build up a reserve of the polyunsaturated fats found in flax oil and here's your next caller 00:31:54.320 --> 00:32:02.640 okay and uh his friend uh I just wanted to say I have two miraculous stories I'll start with my 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:15.040 my own uh quickly uh I uh developed a a chest cancer and uh I knew it was cancer because it's 00:32:15.040 --> 00:32:24.160 uh a cancer of that type it really feels like a little needle inside of your chest and I knew 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:31.680 exactly what to do I don't can't tell you why I knew what to do but I had had ordered from a 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:39.440 essential oil company uh a product called frankincense and I opened up the clear glass bottle 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:47.600 and I liberal liberally put it on my chest and in four hours later the pain stopped 00:32:47.600 --> 00:32:53.920 and I I know I had killed the cancer I just absolutely bathed it in the frankincense 00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:03.280 it didn't return ever it's been 10 years now that was my story uh and no one knew about it except 00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:09.920 me and I was quite proud of that uh the other was my sister went down to San Francisco to 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:19.920 UCSF and she was uh the the doctors said you have a cancer and she was very upset about that of 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:30.240 course and we would all be as I was as well and uh so I said look I I had used frankincense prior 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.600 to this time to kill kill cancer uh start that program so I went down and I got her some um 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.800 several three or four ounces of frankincense now this was older frankincense it was about 00:33:44.800 --> 00:33:52.160 maybe six months to a year old out that I call it out of date and uh I gave that to her and she 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:58.240 started doing that and now we're just basic people you know she has a college degree I have 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:05.440 two years of college and uh so I'm talking hopefully on just a level I'm not a doctor 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:12.480 myself I don't claim to be a physician I'm just telling you what I have done to be successful and 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:20.240 uh so I started her on that program of applying it into the area and I've also used it internally 00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:26.560 before and as long as you don't use too much and we're all different I was also taking an 00:34:26.560 --> 00:34:33.440 internally for a while mixing it with with like a some sort of water or juice and that seems to 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:40.080 have cleansed out my system as well uh she started on the program of using the frankincense topically 00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:47.600 and she said I had a cyst on the front of the front of my body and started using it and she 00:34:47.600 --> 00:34:53.760 said about three months later that little cyst fell out onto her finger and she was quite 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.040 astonished about that but the other thing that she didn't tell me about that what she was using was 00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:09.040 something called zeolite and uh z-e-o-l-i-t-e I believe and uh she said that it was taking the 00:35:09.040 --> 00:35:15.760 heavy metals out of the body and excreting them out she has been a person that's eaten organically 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:23.920 her whole life she is intolerant cannot take calcium through dairy products and she has her 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:29.120 own way she's a vegetarian she has her own gardens and she's lived this way her whole life what do 00:35:29.120 --> 00:35:36.800 you think of those two things right okay well I'll mention frankincense and her name is Boswellia 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:44.160 sacra and I was going to mention it one of many herbs that had been used for cancer specifically 00:35:44.160 --> 00:35:50.240 I think the skin cancers um so Boswellia is one that we were going to mention uh and then the 00:35:50.240 --> 00:35:55.840 zeolite sounds like a chelating agent um Dr. Peat do you know much about zeolite and issues 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:06.000 I didn't hear all of that but uh frankincense and myrrh contain a variety of 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:17.760 tight terpenes that are struck similarly to the steroids and they haven't actually been 00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:25.600 studied enough to define exactly how their anti-cancer effect works 00:36:25.600 --> 00:36:33.360 okay you're listening to Ask Herb Doctor KMUD Garverville 91.1 FM from now until the end of 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:37.040 the show eight o'clock you're invited to call in the questions that are related to cancer 00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:46.800 uh the number is 707-923-3911 and we're still in our little uh fundraising thing could you maybe 00:36:47.600 --> 00:36:51.760 put out a plea to your listeners because I know there's people who tune in from literally all 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:56.800 over the world for the show it's kind of a unique radio station that we have this platform for Dr. 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:04.480 Peat here and for you guys and it's pledge drive time okay yeah well uh for those people that are 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:12.560 listening to the show I just want you to recognize that we still have a free speech radio program I 00:37:12.560 --> 00:37:19.760 think that's the most important thing that people need to remember I've said this before that free 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:25.440 speech is very important it's one of our main principle constitutional rights to hear both sides 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:32.400 of the discussion I think when things become one-sided that's when we become seriously 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:39.440 uh in trouble and so this radio station has many 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more that as a community we have so many different community 00:39:23.120 --> 00:39:30.000 members who do have a little time on air that all together in the aggregate we get an awful lot of 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.960 opinions and if you don't hear an opinion on here that you want to hear on here then that's when you 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:40.720 call in and thank jobs Friday or some other show when it's appropriate and express your opinion or 00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:52.480 all sides now okay so once again the number 707 923 3911 so Dr. Peat just getting back to 00:39:53.520 --> 00:40:00.880 the herbal medicine perspective of improving the connective tissue and strengthening the 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:09.600 connective tissue and the interstitium being a pathway a highway through which fluids move 00:40:09.600 --> 00:40:15.520 and can either be picked up in the lymphatic if they are things like bacterial or yeast or 00:40:15.520 --> 00:40:22.160 fungal spores etc and trapped and dealt with and neutralized the cancer is also able to use this 00:40:22.160 --> 00:40:29.360 same highway to be taken to distant sites but there's definitely is a rationale for 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:35.600 improving the connective tissue itself as cancer tissue cancer cells and cancers 00:40:35.600 --> 00:40:43.680 locally break down adjacent tissues and invade them in their quest for access to the vascular 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:50.400 shear or the lymphatics what do you think about agents that we're familiar with things like 00:40:50.400 --> 00:41:00.720 horsetail a rich source of silica or whether it's phyto lacquer and the main components of phyto 00:41:00.720 --> 00:41:09.440 lacquer that have this lymphatic immune stimulating activity and do you think there's a value in what 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:15.200 do you see as a value in improving and toning these tissues I know you mentioned a lot about 00:41:15.200 --> 00:41:23.840 calcium and calcium obviously is part and parcel of improving the extracellular matrix and its 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.960 homeostasis between being stored in the bone and being available in the bloodstream is something 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:36.160 you see people get plenty of calcium for and the role of calcium is very closely related to 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:47.360 energy metabolism and inflammation when you're deficient in energy you activate many of the 00:41:47.360 --> 00:42:01.120 pro-inflammatory peptides and small lipid molecules that in an ideal situation that 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:11.200 momentary increase of inflammation can reactivate the design and repair processes 00:42:11.200 --> 00:42:21.680 especially for the connective tissue but getting the energy and essential nutrients provided 00:42:21.680 --> 00:42:32.080 is going to have an anti-inflammatory effect which allows the energy production to take effect 00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:40.080 and maintain structural integrity and the effect of adequate calcium in your diet 00:42:40.080 --> 00:42:51.280 is to oppose the excitatory effects of too much phosphate in your diet so the calcium 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:59.920 is having an anti-inflammatory pro-energy restoration effect and that has the 00:43:01.200 --> 00:43:12.000 effect of maintaining structural integrity of the interstitial the whole structural framework 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:19.920 holds cells together. We've got a caller. Not only anti-cancer but you're mentioning 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:26.080 the benefits it has on maintaining healthy connective tissue as well. 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.200 You know keeping inflammation down and energy up. 00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:42.240 Okay so Michael did you say that there was another caller? Yes there is a caller. 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:47.120 Yeah go ahead let's take this next caller away from what's your question? 00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:56.880 Hi I'm from Garberville and I had a low-grade bladder cancer and it came back again and they 00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:02.080 just take it out but I was wondering if you had any recommendations and I think I'll take my 00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:12.240 answer on the air. Okay so Dr. Peat low-grade bladder cancer what would you suggest as being 00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:18.080 good approaches about obviously everything that we had previously talked about but 00:44:18.080 --> 00:44:27.440 go ahead and speak to that. There have been several people developed effective treatments 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:39.760 by infusing a mixture of nutrients, vitamin A related things, proteolytic enzymes and stabilizing 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:48.720 anti-inflammatory things such as I think lidocaine was one of them into the bladder and then arranging 00:44:48.720 --> 00:44:57.200 the person's posture so that the mixture is in contact with the actual tumor itself so you can 00:44:57.200 --> 00:45:07.440 get a very high concentration on the tumor and several of those procedures have been very 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:16.560 effective at removing persistent bladder tumors. Okay so let me just repeat that to make sure that 00:45:16.560 --> 00:45:23.840 we heard you correctly. So you said there's been research done to show that an infusion 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:34.880 of proteolytic enzymes, vitamin A compounds and lidocaine infused with the person laying down in 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.840 such a way that the you know whether it was on the back of the bladder wall or the front of the 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:46.240 bladder wall laying on their back or their front is that what you mean? Yeah I'm not sure if that 00:45:46.240 --> 00:45:52.480 was a complete list of the ingredients but two or three groups were using very similar groups 00:45:53.120 --> 00:46:02.640 with a very high tumor rate. And what is infusion in this context? For treating tumors on the wall 00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:07.440 of the bladder. Are you putting that up through the urethra or are you drinking that? Oh yeah 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:14.080 filling the bladder with a mixture of filling it. All right and you also said anti-inflammatory 00:46:14.080 --> 00:46:22.800 things so maybe like aspirin maybe. Would they have refused aspirin into the bladder? I didn't 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:30.400 hear that. Would they have used something like aspirin as well as an anti-inflammatory? I always 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:38.880 recommend aspirin for any cancer. It reduces inflammation, helps to restore the energy level 00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:50.080 and has at least a dozen effects that help to control or eliminate cancer. 00:46:50.080 --> 00:47:00.880 Very good. Okay you're listening to Ask your doctor KMUD. Garverville 91.1 FM from now until 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:08.480 the close of the show 8 o'clock. You're invited to call in the questions. The number is 707 923 3911 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:14.880 Dr. Raymond P. Willis in the studio. And I just want to say I always like to 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.680 put the warning out there that if people are choosing to use aspirin 00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.040 for treating their own cancers and they're doing a home treatment like that 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:31.200 you should really call us and we'll give you the instructions on how to take aspirin safely 00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:37.120 in conjunction with vitamin K2. It's very important if you're taking more than a baby 00:47:37.120 --> 00:47:44.320 aspirin a day that you take vitamin K2 to prevent blood subleaving. And also you don't really have 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.640 till 8 o'clock you should call right away because we got to give them time to finish up and if you 00:47:48.640 --> 00:47:55.120 do call in right away you got to keep it brief. No what I mean sorry let's um if anyone wants to 00:47:55.120 --> 00:48:01.440 use aspirin any more than a baby aspirin a day then email us or call us at our number which is 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:11.920 western botanical medicine 707 986 9506 and our email is either Andrew or Sarah at western 00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:19.360 botanicalmedicine.com and Sarah is within h s-a-r-a-h at western botanicalmedicine.com 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:29.920 Okay so Dr. Peat how about I mean again aspirin I think just as we mentioned it talking about 00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:38.720 the coagulopathy that happens with cancer and even if it's not stimulated by estrogen which 00:48:38.720 --> 00:48:48.240 promotes blood thickening and clotting and is pro-cancer in its own right. The approach to treatment 00:48:48.240 --> 00:49:00.000 as anti-coagulopathy treatment in terms of making the the platelets less sticky making blood flow 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:06.480 more easily um do you do you think this would be uh would have a good rational basis in science 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:13.040 for using things like aspirin and garlic and things like inco and other things that got 00:49:13.040 --> 00:49:20.720 traditionally used for improving blood flow and preventing clotting. The clotting system 00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:31.280 and the platelets are very central to the ability of of the metastatic cells 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:40.320 to get across the blood vessel into the area it's going to colonize as metastatic cancer 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:51.200 and various things that decrease the stickiness and the tendency to coagulate of the platelets 00:49:51.840 --> 00:50:03.120 several of these substances have been studied and very strongly discourage metastatic spread 00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:12.960 and so increase the survival rate lidocaine aspirin and progesterone are just three of the 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:20.480 factors that have been over and over demonstrated to interfere with the metastatic 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:30.560 stickiness and the ability to travel in the cancer cells makes them stay home and not hurt anything. 00:50:30.560 --> 00:50:38.560 Stay home cancer stay home. How about I have on my next question kind of anti-angiogenic 00:50:38.560 --> 00:50:47.600 activity to manage cancer a little bit like diabetes because diabetes has been implicated 00:50:47.600 --> 00:50:55.040 in the breakdown of vascular walls. There were studies in the 40s and 50s showing that 00:50:55.040 --> 00:51:03.760 the longer people left their cancer untreated the longer they lived and several studies have 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:13.040 looked at the statistics and the population in general showing that the more you treat 00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:21.840 in some cancers that the survival rate stays the same no matter how much you 00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:30.000 do to the patient but in some cases the more you treat the higher the death rate is 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:38.720 that that was first seen distinctly in the case of prostate cancer in the early 90s 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:46.800 and by the end of the century this had been pressed enough prostate specialists that they 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:54.320 came up with the idea of a watchful waiting figuring that if you don't 00:51:54.320 --> 00:52:03.760 use any of the harmful treatments such as high dose estrogen to treat the prostate cancer and just 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:13.040 watch what's happening don't do multiple biopsies and so on but the normal aging process 00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:19.760 happens faster than the development of a normal old man's prostate cancer 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:27.440 and that's a well-established concept now that watchful waiting has actually improved 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:37.520 the mortality rate from cancer failing to treat it. Well what's that statistic you quote Dr. Peat 00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:45.040 that 99 percent or 99.9 percent of people over the age of 50 have some form of abdominal cancer 00:52:45.040 --> 00:52:51.200 99.9 percent of people will not die of cancer? In an autopsy you can find 00:52:52.080 --> 00:53:00.800 cancer essentially in a hundred percent of the people over 50 if you look for it it's part of 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:15.040 a natural healing process and most people just coexist with many of these little cancers that 00:53:15.040 --> 00:53:24.880 aren't really hurting anything. I think on a very quick side note just for people to help people 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:33.760 if they want to try this themselves and advocate self-treatment generally but on a very small side 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:41.760 note I had a keratosis and what I thought was a keratosis on the side of my nose and I've spoken 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:47.600 to you about this so to speak three or four years ago I had it for two years it obviously wasn't 00:53:47.600 --> 00:53:57.520 healthy cells in your latest photograph your nose looks fine and no defect at all. I just wanted to 00:53:57.520 --> 00:54:03.200 tell people that I had it you know fortunately or unfortunately I did have a biopsy done and it 00:54:03.200 --> 00:54:07.360 identified it as basal cell carcinoma and of course they wanted to do this and everything 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:13.920 with it which I refused. I went ahead and did what you suggested I do I don't have it anymore 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:23.280 I mean folks it's possible your nose looks very positive. Anyway before we end I want to mention 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:29.920 a book that I think might be the most important book published in the last two or three years 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:41.200 just came out. It's Robert Kennedy Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci. It was the background for the 00:54:41.200 --> 00:54:49.440 not only the COVID process but the background going back decades. 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:54.880 Yeah well he's been there as indeed for 40 years or something he's pretty entrenched. 00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:00.320 Dr. Fauci is pretty entrenched. 00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:04.480 Yeah but this book I think is going to change that. 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:12.080 Yeah they said possibly he's prejudiced himself but anyway thanks so much for your time Dr. Peat 00:55:12.080 --> 00:55:15.600 it's five to the hour I know the engineer wants to wrap it up for eight o'clock and we need to 00:55:15.600 --> 00:55:21.280 give people your information so thanks so much for joining us. Okay thank you. And thank you Dr. Peat 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:27.200 good night. Next. So those people who've listened to the show before or who just tuned in Dr. Raymond 00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:32.160 Peat's got a wealth of experience he's been doing this over 40 years he's written several books 00:55:32.160 --> 00:55:37.840 he's published hundreds of hundreds of articles. He's a very altruistic character as most people 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:48.880 who've known him can attest. His website is raypeat.com and so his journal articles there 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:55.040 are well referenced. He's a very scientific person he doesn't believe in hocus pocus and crystal 00:55:55.040 --> 00:55:59.600 dangling and whatever else I'm sorry to offend some people who maybe use crystals I'm not saying 00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:05.040 that they don't work or do anything but it's generally a a do less than do something proactive 00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:14.480 situation. So we can be contacted Monday through Friday work within botanicalmedicine.com 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:28.480 the 707 986 9506. And so until the December version we will look forward to seeing you, 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:34.240 hearing from you, answering questions, give us feedback and thanks so much for your time. 00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:41.840 Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for tuning in. My name is Sarah Murray. 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:51.120 My name is Andrew Murray. Good night. 00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:19.120 [Music] 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:49.120 [Music] 00:57:49.120 --> 00:58:05.120 [Music] 00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:18.400 [Music] 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:28.400 [Music] 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:41.680 [Music] 00:58:41.680 --> 00:58:53.680 [Music] 00:58:53.680 --> 00:59:06.960 [Music] 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:18.960 [Music] 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:32.240 [Music] 00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:45.520 [Music] 00:59:45.520 --> 01:00:03.600 [Music]