WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.360 those of the station staff, underwriters or volunteers. 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:08.940 Time is made available for all sorts of viewpoints, and thank you so much for choosing to listen 00:00:08.940 --> 00:00:15.900 to us in a crowded media landscape. 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:20.440 And support for KMUD comes from the Redwood Coast Energy Authority, who provides services 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:25.700 and support to the community to build energy resilience, reduce energy consumption and 00:00:25.700 --> 00:00:28.680 expand the use of climate-friendly electric vehicles. 00:00:28.680 --> 00:00:43.120 Visit redwoodenergy.org for complete details or call 707-269-1700 for more information. 00:00:43.120 --> 00:01:09.520 It's time for Ask Your Herb Doctor. 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:37.040 Thank you. 00:01:43.120 --> 00:02:04.240 Thank you. 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:38.240 Thank you. 00:02:43.120 --> 00:03:08.320 Thank you. 00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:22.520 Thank you. 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:52.240 Well, once again, 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:58.680 it's Ask Your Herb Doctor, KMUD Garberville 91.1 FM. 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.240 Welcome back. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:06.320 So every month we have a guest speaker, and that guest speaker is the faithful, ever-reliable, 00:04:06.320 --> 00:04:09.520 factual, informative Dr. Raymond Peat. 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:14.360 And again, this month is no exception, Dr. Peat is going to be joining us to discuss 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:21.520 the continuing subject of cancer with reference to autoimmunity and estrogen. 00:04:21.520 --> 00:04:26.480 For those people who wish to call in, we invite you to call in, it's a live show. 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:31.600 We encourage the questions related to the subject, but obviously recognize there are 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:37.000 instances where people are following protocols and they have questions related to that protocol. 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:41.320 Or indeed any other subject, as Dr. Peat say, a wealth of information. 00:04:41.320 --> 00:04:45.920 And outside of his area of expertise, he often has an answer for many different questions. 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:52.200 So this month, like I said, it's a continuation of a broader discussion on cancer. 00:04:52.200 --> 00:04:56.480 The alternative approach is the treatment of cancer, some new research that I found 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:03.840 here from some 19, sorry, 2020 papers and 2019 papers that have been written on immunotherapy 00:05:03.840 --> 00:05:06.560 and estrogen and autoimmunity. 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.800 So from 7.30 until the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in. 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:28.840 The number is 707-K-M-U-D-RAD or 986-3911, 923, sorry, 923-3911, so it's area code 707-923-3911. 00:05:28.840 --> 00:05:34.240 So I think without further ado, let's make sure we've got Dr. Peat on the air and that 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:40.000 we can get his explanations as we go through this next 40, 50 minutes. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.000 Okay. 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:42.000 Dr. Peat? 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.000 Yes, I'm here. 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.340 Thanks so much for joining us. 00:05:44.340 --> 00:05:48.540 So for those people, as always, I start the shows off just in case. 00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:53.880 For those people who perhaps might not have read anything that you've written or heard 00:05:53.880 --> 00:05:59.460 you speak or know anything about you, perhaps it's always possible to meet people coming 00:05:59.460 --> 00:06:02.240 all the time into the alternative scene. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:07.000 Would you just explain your academic and professional background before we get into the show? 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:13.680 Okay, when I graduated from college, that was in the humanities. 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:22.120 I was an English major for a while and then an art and psychology and philosophy major 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:29.840 for a while and worked for several years just in the humanities, but I was specializing 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:36.240 in linguistics and wanted to understand how language works in the brain. 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:44.080 So I decided to study biology to better understand the brain so I could understand language as 00:06:44.080 --> 00:06:48.960 a basis for understanding the culture and humanities and so on. 00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:58.240 But when I got to graduate school at University of Oregon 1968, I learned that the brain scientists 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:07.480 were the most dogmatic, well the geneticists were more dogmatic, the brain science people 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:17.680 were high status and very dogmatic, so I looked around looking for people oriented towards 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:25.080 science rather than dogmatism and found that reproductive physiology people were actually 00:07:25.080 --> 00:07:34.080 doing research and not throwing away evidence that contradicted them, their basic ideas. 00:07:34.080 --> 00:07:43.280 So I specialized in the physiology of oxidative metabolism as it changes in the reproductive 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:52.040 system with aging and that happened to provide a good perspective on how to understand the 00:07:52.040 --> 00:08:01.720 brain and its energy and so it was useful for my original project and so then I wrote 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:12.320 up Mind and Tissue, a little book about the history of people understanding brain metabolism 00:08:12.320 --> 00:08:23.520 in relation to psychology and then for 10 or 20 years it was specializing in the interactions 00:08:23.520 --> 00:08:37.000 of hormones and nutrition counseling people and the effects of living and eating on your 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.120 hormonal system and aging. 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:46.600 It's something I picked up on there, you said that when you decided to follow up your undergraduate 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:53.960 stuff you said that the reproductive physiology people were far less likely to throw away 00:08:53.960 --> 00:09:01.520 good information related to the research and therefore a little bit more careful in sticking 00:09:01.520 --> 00:09:05.840 to scientific principles and not burying it and I just want to ask you the question before 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.560 we get into the subject matter, is this because the estrogen industry hadn't really gotten 00:09:11.560 --> 00:09:17.320 so much traction at this point, by this point it was still in the early days of its push 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:21.160 towards and I guess it links tonight's show because we're talking about estrogen and auto 00:09:21.160 --> 00:09:26.280 immunity but did you say that those reproductive physiology people or the people in those departments 00:09:26.280 --> 00:09:38.360 weren't quite so inclined to throw this stuff away or mire it? 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:42.360 My brain neurobiology professor in class described doing some research and he said that and then 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:52.440 you throw away the bad data and in the lab I would point out an instrument reading to 00:09:52.440 --> 00:10:01.280 him that was impossible by his ideas and that just turned off his brain in a flash and he 00:10:01.280 --> 00:10:07.880 turned away and I'm sure his memory was that he never saw that happen. 00:10:07.880 --> 00:10:13.080 Okay, let's just hold that thought there for a second Dr. Peat and. 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:17.520 I have an underwriter I forgot to read and we love our underwriters because they keep 00:10:17.520 --> 00:10:22.480 us going. I'm 11 minutes late. The Southern Humboldt Chamber of Commerce is excited to 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:27.280 present their Small Town Christmas, Saturday, December 18th. Festivities will begin about 00:10:27.280 --> 00:10:34.400 2.30 and end with the Soroptimist lighted truck parade about 6pm. Come to downtown Garberville 00:10:34.400 --> 00:10:41.640 and enjoy a carriage ride, face painting SFHS boosters at South Fork High School boosters 00:10:41.640 --> 00:10:46.680 will offer pulled pork and Miranda 4-H club will have sweet treats. Special deals at merchants 00:10:46.680 --> 00:10:51.580 throughout town and don't forget to come say hi to Santa and share with him your holiday 00:10:51.580 --> 00:11:19.600 wishes. Ho ho ho. Okay, so Dr. Peat getting back to the subject of tonight's Estrogen Autoimmunity 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:26.300 article that was pulled from but it was one of those 2021 articles from PubMed. So PubMed, 00:11:26.300 --> 00:11:30.900 okay, as a university paper but I didn't actually have this one down. So they just said that 00:11:30.900 --> 00:11:36.300 why women are more susceptible to autoimmune disease is not completely clear but new data 00:11:36.300 --> 00:11:42.560 suggests that the hormone estrogen may play an important role. A new study now shows that 00:11:42.560 --> 00:11:49.140 estrogen activates the expression of AID which is activation induced deaminase which is a 00:11:49.140 --> 00:11:56.580 protein that drives antibody diversification by deaminating cytosine in DNA to uracil. 00:11:56.580 --> 00:12:02.580 If estrogen increases the level of AID increased mutations could transform benign antibodies 00:12:02.580 --> 00:12:09.380 into anti-self pariahs and AID might also contribute to cancer particularly in breast 00:12:09.380 --> 00:12:14.260 tissue which is highly responsive to estrogen by introducing mutations and strand breaks 00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:19.260 into the genome. So I just wanted to read that out because the conversation I had earlier 00:12:19.260 --> 00:12:24.220 with Dr. Peat about tonight's show, he said that he was looking more and doing more research 00:12:24.220 --> 00:12:32.940 into autoimmunity and how estrogen unfavourably influences the immune system to basically 00:12:32.940 --> 00:12:36.700 become a self-destructive mechanism or by knocking out things like nuclear factor kappa 00:12:36.700 --> 00:12:47.260 beta. That article you cited is an extremely important landmark in not just autoimmunity 00:12:47.260 --> 00:12:57.380 but one of the very earliest estrogen cancer researchers, Leonel Strong, showed that estrogen 00:12:57.380 --> 00:13:08.460 destabilizes the whole genome, promotes a tendency to develop an uneven number of chromosomes 00:13:08.460 --> 00:13:18.180 by losing or gaining an extra chromosome or piece of chromosome. So it's a genetic destabilizer 00:13:18.180 --> 00:13:25.900 and that's exactly what this article you cite. It focuses on one single enzyme which 00:13:25.900 --> 00:13:34.860 is when it functions it helps to produce the essentially infinite variety of antibodies 00:13:34.860 --> 00:13:44.980 that we can make by creating extreme rate of mutation locally. But that same destabilizing 00:13:44.980 --> 00:13:54.900 process works on many levels all the way to the shape and function of the basic cell not 00:13:54.900 --> 00:14:08.140 just that one mutation promoting the enzyme. When you look at these landmarks it's important 00:14:08.140 --> 00:14:19.860 to keep in mind that in between the big landmarks like that article on the AID mutagenic enzyme, 00:14:19.860 --> 00:14:29.580 in between these landmarks you have an almost continuous seamless bunch of other changes 00:14:29.580 --> 00:14:41.700 that estrogen is acting on and producing that all tend in the same direction. The reductionist 00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:49.700 mechanistic approach just can't look at the fact but wherever you look probably thousands 00:14:49.700 --> 00:15:02.420 of different places are cooperating with that destabilizing effect on that one enzyme but 00:15:02.420 --> 00:15:08.140 increasing the water content of the cell for example helps to destabilize the whole system 00:15:08.140 --> 00:15:21.580 and hardening collagen, lowering oxygen tension, increasing nitric oxide production, histamine 00:15:21.580 --> 00:15:33.740 production. Everywhere you look it would take about an hour just to identify the main pro-inflammatory 00:15:33.740 --> 00:15:40.620 organisms that have been identified but the interesting thing is it's holistic almost 00:15:40.620 --> 00:15:47.820 seamlessly interacting one factor supporting another factor. 00:15:47.820 --> 00:15:55.300 Well I'm very pleased that you said that. I was so happy to find the article. I couldn't 00:15:55.300 --> 00:16:01.820 hardly believe what I was reading because so often it's been for the last 15 years 00:16:01.820 --> 00:16:09.620 well not quite that long with you obviously we met you in 2007 but since I've been looking 00:16:09.620 --> 00:16:14.640 at articles to do shows and to come up with information and to discuss things and bring 00:16:14.640 --> 00:16:20.380 to the greater awareness people's understanding of how they're being duped as it were by the 00:16:20.380 --> 00:16:25.420 system and we'll talk a little bit later on towards the end of the show about the authoritarianism 00:16:25.420 --> 00:16:31.100 which you've often mentioned in science and in the university systems. How people are 00:16:31.100 --> 00:16:37.300 being duped by the status quo and what they're told to accept or not but I couldn't hardly 00:16:37.300 --> 00:16:40.820 believe the article when I read it because along with that and there was another one 00:16:40.820 --> 00:16:46.180 a 2019 publication that one was a 2021 publication I was like wow they're actually saying this 00:16:46.180 --> 00:16:50.500 they're actually saying it the way it is this is what you've been saying for a long long 00:16:50.500 --> 00:16:56.100 time and I know we'll come back to that quip that you've mentioned years and years and years 00:16:56.100 --> 00:17:01.360 ago you know a lie gets around the world faster than truth can get tired but shoelaces but 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:05.780 I was so heartened to see this article and read about it because researchers and scientists 00:17:05.780 --> 00:17:10.660 were actually disclosing this now and because it's been buried and hidden for so long because 00:17:10.660 --> 00:17:14.620 the estrogen industry is so powerful and that's why I mentioned when you first started talking 00:17:14.620 --> 00:17:20.900 about your bio you know the people in reproductive physiology perhaps weren't so keen to throw 00:17:20.900 --> 00:17:24.260 stuff away because they weren't as brainwashed perhaps probably because the estrogen industry 00:17:24.260 --> 00:17:32.180 hadn't got as much traction as it has now both in Congress as well as in pharmaceutical 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:37.580 you know frameworks that there's so much money behind it now that it's very easy to just 00:17:37.580 --> 00:17:43.420 blind people to the truth and keep perpetuating the lie in an authoritarian fashion which 00:17:43.420 --> 00:17:50.300 the medical system emphasizes and epitomizes completely I've often wondered how my thesis 00:17:50.300 --> 00:18:02.980 advisor Arnold Soderwald how he came to be so open to the facts and resistance to the 00:18:02.980 --> 00:18:10.900 industry position and I think it was partly that he was born and educated before the power 00:18:10.900 --> 00:18:22.340 of the industry took over and so he was aware of the research that was done in the 1930s 00:18:22.340 --> 00:18:30.140 absolutely contradicting everything that since 1944 the estrogen industry has foisted under 00:18:30.140 --> 00:18:31.140 the public. 00:18:31.140 --> 00:18:37.820 Yeah okay we'll get into the meat and potatoes as it were of what you've recently been researching 00:18:37.820 --> 00:18:42.460 as a continuation of a thread you've held for a long time along with the polyunsaturates 00:18:42.460 --> 00:18:49.820 being so damaging for the system both genetically and energetically so far as autoimmunity and 00:18:49.820 --> 00:18:55.020 estrogen is concerned I pulled out quite a few little snippets from either PubMed or 00:18:55.020 --> 00:19:02.940 other internet source documents that are researched and validated by references to the articles 00:19:02.940 --> 00:19:08.220 by which they're claiming that what they're saying is the way it is so the autoimmunity 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:15.060 feature or the autoimmunity predisposing activity of estrogen and how it's so negative not just 00:19:15.060 --> 00:19:20.420 because it's cancer forming but in terms of its destabilizing things as you mentioned 00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:24.860 like water logging the cell and decreasing energy availability and causing chaos in the 00:19:24.860 --> 00:19:31.580 cell generally how this can result in chromosomal changes but autoimmunity per se and how do 00:19:31.580 --> 00:19:37.020 you see estrogen driving that in terms of what you're currently seeing and building 00:19:37.020 --> 00:19:40.660 on? 00:19:40.660 --> 00:19:51.100 The pro-inflammatory part of inflammation and immunity that is activated by estrogen 00:19:51.100 --> 00:20:00.980 such as histamine, nitric oxide and serotonin it's an essential part of getting things started 00:20:00.980 --> 00:20:11.060 but the next step is to turn off the excitatory process that got things started and focus 00:20:11.060 --> 00:20:19.140 on maturing the cells once they got shaken up by a little inflammation then you have 00:20:19.140 --> 00:20:30.540 to give form to it and estrogen releasing histamine for example activates many other 00:20:30.540 --> 00:20:39.260 pro-inflammatory things and activates cells that get cell division going and increases 00:20:39.260 --> 00:20:51.940 the production of antibodies the B cells are activated by estrogen and the whole thymus 00:20:51.940 --> 00:21:04.660 gland shrinks very quickly in the presence of either estrogen or glucocorticoids and 00:21:04.660 --> 00:21:14.700 if you knock out the thymus T cells that restrain the antibody production of things like this 00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:26.620 enzyme you just cited AID those become more and more dominant the B cells being activated 00:21:26.620 --> 00:21:39.020 in many ways by estrogen including knocking out the restraint from the T cells that creates 00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:48.380 varied sort of random irrational activity of the antibodies being produced by this overactivity 00:21:48.380 --> 00:21:57.940 of the B cells and in that relatively random activity that's where some of the antibodies 00:21:57.940 --> 00:22:05.740 cause damage rather than contributing to cleaning up the infection process. 00:22:05.740 --> 00:22:14.300 So what goes wrong Dr. Peat if the estrogen is an important stimulator of inflammation 00:22:14.300 --> 00:22:20.600 for healing purposes at what point does it go wrong or why does it go wrong that it then 00:22:20.600 --> 00:22:24.060 becomes a chronic inflammatory stimulator? 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:33.860 Yeah it's exactly the same thing that happens in pregnancy estrogen and histamine create 00:22:33.860 --> 00:22:45.820 a little focus of activity in the uterus and inflammation that the conceptus takes advantage 00:22:45.820 --> 00:22:53.380 of and gets into the uterus but then if that process of local inflammation histamine and 00:22:53.380 --> 00:23:02.900 estrogen kept dominating it would interfere with the oxygen and glucose supply. 00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:10.900 Yeah you've got to stop the excitation and the inflammation for the pregnancy to really 00:23:10.900 --> 00:23:18.580 start by delivering glucose and oxygen to the tissue. 00:23:18.580 --> 00:23:29.540 It's progesterone rising one of the natural functions of estrogen is to evoke the progesterone 00:23:29.540 --> 00:23:37.220 receptor making the cells open to being turned off by progesterone. 00:23:37.220 --> 00:23:48.140 So it's sort of an automatic process the estrogen should excite and inflame the tissue but immediately 00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:55.940 turn the tissue towards looking for relief from progesterone by increasing the progesterone 00:23:55.940 --> 00:24:04.740 receptor and if you can produce progesterone partly acting through the progesterone receptor 00:24:04.740 --> 00:24:15.700 partly outside that way of influencing, one of the first effects of progesterone is to 00:24:15.700 --> 00:24:26.820 knock out the estrogen roughly ten different ways progesterone knocks out those pro-inflammatory 00:24:26.820 --> 00:24:35.780 effects of estrogen turning off the production of estrogen knocking out the estrogen receptor 00:24:35.780 --> 00:24:45.140 so the tissue is less sensitive to estrogen and changing the metabolism and so on and 00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:53.020 exactly what happens to make pregnancy possible is what happens every time you have a little 00:24:53.020 --> 00:25:05.740 injury that evokes the estrogen activated start of the healing or immune process that should 00:25:05.740 --> 00:25:15.780 increase the cells ability to receive and be saved or matured by progesterone produced 00:25:15.780 --> 00:25:18.460 elsewhere in the organism. 00:25:18.460 --> 00:25:25.160 So for women that have autoimmune conditions is that something you would recommend they 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:33.860 use as progesterone to help combat the inflammatory overactive immune stimulating effects of the 00:25:33.860 --> 00:25:35.860 estrogen? 00:25:35.860 --> 00:25:45.260 People are now recognizing the role of progesterone along with DHEA and thyroid but over the last 00:25:45.260 --> 00:25:56.260 fifty years or so I have seen several women with seriously debilitating effects of lupus 00:25:56.260 --> 00:26:05.960 SLE lupus erythematosus and just by taking thyroid and progesterone all of their symptoms 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:10.120 over several weeks faded away. 00:26:10.120 --> 00:26:15.220 Because the thyroid is combating the estrogen helping improve the liver's ability to excrete 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:20.660 it and detoxify it and increasing the oxygen to the cell to get it to work better so it 00:26:20.660 --> 00:26:30.020 can not be over manufacturing inflammatory mediators and making more progesterone and 00:26:30.020 --> 00:26:37.140 helping the progesterone production to counterbalance the high estrogen and what role do you think 00:26:37.140 --> 00:26:42.420 like plastics in our environment play stimulating estrogens I mean is this something that we're 00:26:42.420 --> 00:26:48.860 now going to be permanently scarred with, women and men, children? 00:26:48.860 --> 00:26:52.380 I'm glad you mentioned that because that's actually part of another question I had for 00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:56.380 later on but carry on. 00:26:56.380 --> 00:27:08.180 The water, birth control pills getting into the sewage much of it ends up in the water 00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:19.020 of rivers and recycles and there are natural sources of estrogens but just the tremendous 00:27:19.020 --> 00:27:34.140 flow of estrogen down the sewers is a tremendous polluting source but the plastics, the agents 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:45.020 used to make stiff plastics more flexible are the effective estrogen in very small amounts 00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:52.340 and all of the water supply of the world is contaminated with those. 00:27:52.340 --> 00:27:55.420 They're saying that the levels of cancer now that they're putting down and I'm glad you 00:27:55.420 --> 00:27:56.420 said that. 00:27:56.420 --> 00:28:01.340 I'll back up Sarah to just say that one of the questions I was going to pose to you is 00:28:01.340 --> 00:28:09.740 around bisphenoA and the catastrophe that we're seeing worldwide with environmental 00:28:09.740 --> 00:28:16.100 contaminants from the plastics industry is fuelling the cancer rates worldwide because 00:28:16.100 --> 00:28:23.900 it's directly implicated in the estrogenisation of the organism, male or female, as well as 00:28:23.900 --> 00:28:27.340 fish and everything else that's swimming about in the water. 00:28:27.340 --> 00:28:34.100 So you're listening to ask your Dr. K.M.U.D. Garberville 91.1 FM, Dr. Raymond Peat PhD is 00:28:34.100 --> 00:28:39.980 with us and we are discussing the subject of auto-immunity, cancer and estrogen. 00:28:39.980 --> 00:28:44.020 Right about now, 7.30 to 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in the questions either directly 00:28:44.020 --> 00:28:48.300 pose to Dr. Peat on the subject or any other health questions that you have. 00:28:48.300 --> 00:28:55.620 The number here is 707-923-3911 and so we'll be taking calls from now until 8 o'clock. 00:28:55.620 --> 00:29:01.820 Well that's not quite getting to the plastics yet but I think just on the subject of auto-immunity 00:29:01.820 --> 00:29:07.500 and how the immune system basically targets itself when it's under the effects of estrogen 00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:13.540 and how that can fuel cancer through chromosomal changes and damage that puts the body's immune 00:29:13.540 --> 00:29:20.340 surveillance outside of the range of doing what it should do but turns it against itself. 00:29:20.340 --> 00:29:25.340 I looked at, because they've always said, well not always said but fairly recently in 00:29:25.340 --> 00:29:30.900 the last 15, 20 years they've been saying that viruses, oncogenetic viruses have been 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:36.580 discovered and that they posited then 20, 30 years ago perhaps that these viruses may 00:29:36.580 --> 00:29:43.460 well be implicated in spontaneous cancer arising and I remember things like walk viruses being 00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:48.700 implicated in the production of cancers but Epstein-Bardvina virus is also another one 00:29:48.700 --> 00:29:49.700 of those. 00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:55.340 I saw in some recent research related to autoimmune disease such as Hashimoto's thyroiditis and 00:29:55.340 --> 00:30:05.100 Graves disease rheumatoid and then you mentioned Lupus and Shergens syndrome so the viral interference 00:30:05.100 --> 00:30:13.580 as it were towards promoting destabilization and autoimmune thyroid disease from viral 00:30:13.580 --> 00:30:18.460 inclusions as an autoimmunity. 00:30:18.460 --> 00:30:21.060 Do you go along with that kind of theory? 00:30:21.060 --> 00:30:33.940 The same inflammation that leads to the direct actions of estrogen on the T and B cells and 00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:47.260 on their ability to make the safe type of antibodies, whatever the inflammation is affecting all 00:30:47.260 --> 00:30:57.100 of the cells of your body, shifting them a little bit to the unstable tendency to lack 00:30:57.100 --> 00:31:04.540 enough oxygen and take up more water than is desirable. 00:31:04.540 --> 00:31:09.220 I think we have a caller on the air, our first one for this evening so let's hold you right 00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:14.100 there Dr. Peat and take this first caller, caller where are you from and what's your question? 00:31:14.100 --> 00:31:19.260 I'm from square away and this is Joe and I was wondering if there's a correlation between 00:31:19.260 --> 00:31:25.220 the plastics makers and the pharmaceutical industry. 00:31:25.220 --> 00:31:34.700 The people who are making the plastic and the people who are holding the patents to 00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:42.180 the chemical therapy, I don't doubt that for a minute but Dr. Peat in terms of petrochemical 00:31:42.180 --> 00:31:52.140 industries and pharmaceutical companies, what do you think about that collusion perhaps? 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:58.460 But it's known fact that the round up company also holds the patents to the medicine that 00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:08.180 cures the same illness or pretends to cure the symptoms of the illness that the dandelion 00:32:08.180 --> 00:32:11.180 root would cure. 00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:12.180 I totally agree. 00:32:12.180 --> 00:32:13.860 Dr. P, what do you have to say? 00:32:13.860 --> 00:32:18.980 The other question I have, when will they be held accountable for destroying this earth? 00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:23.780 Yeah, when will they be held accountable for a lot of things, hopefully that's hope. 00:32:23.780 --> 00:32:26.100 We all hope for that so let's not give up hope. 00:32:26.100 --> 00:32:31.820 But Dr. P, what do you think about petrochemical and pharmaceutical collusion? 00:32:31.820 --> 00:32:42.980 Oh, those are the most powerful industry next to the military, arms industry and they have 00:32:42.980 --> 00:32:54.700 had control of the government regulatory agencies for well over a hundred years and it's a less 00:32:54.700 --> 00:33:05.140 powerful industry, the asbestos industry compared to pharmaceuticals and petrochemicals. 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:12.420 Asbestos wasn't such a huge powerful industry but it took about a hundred years to reduce 00:33:12.420 --> 00:33:20.780 the public's exposure to carcinogenic levels of asbestos. 00:33:20.780 --> 00:33:28.260 So the government is working against the public on matters of pollution. 00:33:28.260 --> 00:33:36.580 And also Dr. P, haven't you told us that estrogen is manufactured from petrochemical products? 00:33:36.580 --> 00:33:46.300 The original ones were a diethylstilbestrol, it was so cheap, it was a perfect drug, cost 00:33:46.300 --> 00:33:55.340 nothing to manufacture but it had very powerful estrogen-like effects that led it. 00:33:55.340 --> 00:34:06.420 It was continuing to be used to treat prostate cancer right at the very end of the 20th century, 00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:09.020 they were still using it. 00:34:09.020 --> 00:34:13.700 And that's what you believe causes prostate cancer, right, is the estrogen? 00:34:13.700 --> 00:34:24.580 And that treatment was based on zero evidence, it was a total matter of opinion contrary 00:34:24.580 --> 00:34:36.780 to all of the research in animals but it affected many millions of men for about 55 years. 00:34:36.780 --> 00:34:39.100 That sounds like the true mark of the authoritarian. 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:40.100 True. 00:34:40.100 --> 00:34:46.140 Okay, so you're listening to Ask Europe, Dr. K. M. E. D. Garberful, 91.1 FM, Dr. Raymond 00:34:46.140 --> 00:34:52.220 P, our special guest here to answer questions either about the subject of tonight's autoimmunity 00:34:52.220 --> 00:34:56.980 cancer and estrogen or any other health related questions you have that you feel Dr. Peat has 00:34:56.980 --> 00:34:59.500 the answer for and he has the answers. 00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:03.300 So the number here is 707 923 3911. 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:11.780 I want to make a little departure from autoimmunity per autoimmunity's sake but just ask you and 00:35:11.780 --> 00:35:16.860 I've got a little kind of paragraph of some work I saw of that. 00:35:16.860 --> 00:35:20.060 I think, I don't know if you'll go along with it but let me just see if you will. 00:35:20.060 --> 00:35:24.900 What do you think about dienylmethane because I have an article about DIM for anti-estrogenic 00:35:24.900 --> 00:35:25.900 purposes? 00:35:25.900 --> 00:35:33.260 There were studies in the patient which had a pro-estrogenic effect so I've been a little 00:35:33.260 --> 00:35:39.820 sceptical of it but to the extent that you can show for example in humans that it is 00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:47.420 protective and it's a pretty safe material or just eat your cabbage and broccoli. 00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:50.380 Kale, I like kale. 00:35:50.380 --> 00:35:56.900 Alright, and then I saw from a botanical perspective, it interests me, I call it right away because 00:35:56.900 --> 00:36:03.100 I remember working in the botanic gardens in Cambridge, this plant is climbing cucurbitase 00:36:03.100 --> 00:36:10.140 plant in the cucumber family called momordica sharantia, bitter melon, they're saying that 00:36:10.140 --> 00:36:17.820 it has strong estrogen modulating properties and that in rats bitter melon reduced estrogen 00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:22.620 levels notably and another study found four specific constituents from bitter melon possess 00:36:22.620 --> 00:36:27.500 significant antagonism of estradiol and estrogen receptors. 00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:30.940 So I wonder if that point caught my attention for any other reasons other than that but 00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:36.380 I thought it was quite pertinent, these bright orange kind of gourds, they're not gourd 00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:42.340 shaped but they're kind of like swollen cucumbers with lots of spines on them. 00:36:42.340 --> 00:36:49.560 So getting back to autoimmunity and other substances that affect estrogen and decrease 00:36:49.560 --> 00:36:56.980 estrogen's ability to wreak havoc on the chromosome and to reduce T helper cells and the other 00:36:56.980 --> 00:37:02.060 parts of the immune system so that it can evade detection and/or be arrested much sooner 00:37:02.060 --> 00:37:05.060 than it is in most people. 00:37:05.060 --> 00:37:15.340 There are two factors that powerfully go with the inflammation and destabilizing effect 00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:21.340 of estrogen adding to the tendency to develop autoimmunity. 00:37:21.340 --> 00:37:32.060 One is endotoxin and if you're overloaded with estrogen your blood vessels tend to be 00:37:32.060 --> 00:37:40.600 leaky and that in itself increases the risk of exposure to endotoxin which intensifies 00:37:40.600 --> 00:37:53.580 that leakiness and affects all of your cells tending to make them leaky or overloaded with 00:37:53.580 --> 00:37:57.740 water and having the signs of inflammation. 00:37:57.740 --> 00:38:05.140 The other main factor is the polyunsaturated fatty acids and the prostaglandins that they 00:38:05.140 --> 00:38:14.500 are converted to both pre-polyunsaturated fatty acids. 00:38:14.500 --> 00:38:25.140 They have a direct effect activating estrogen for example knocking out the estrogen binding 00:38:25.140 --> 00:38:35.460 protein so that the estrogen is freed to be more active and effective and increasing the 00:38:35.460 --> 00:38:45.220 ability of cells to take up the polyunsaturated fats and then under the influence of estrogen 00:38:45.220 --> 00:38:55.980 the excitatory prostaglandins are activated and they in a healthy situation the prostaglandins 00:38:55.980 --> 00:39:01.620 are blocked by progesterone in multiple ways. 00:39:01.620 --> 00:39:10.100 Stopping the synthesis and accelerating the degrading metabolism of the prostaglandins 00:39:10.100 --> 00:39:19.740 with a balance once you shift over to the estrogen influence you're at increased risk 00:39:19.740 --> 00:39:25.220 from the polyunsaturated fats and the endotoxin coming from your intestine. 00:39:25.220 --> 00:39:30.740 Alright good I'm glad you mentioned that endotoxin and leaky gut because there was another direct 00:39:30.740 --> 00:39:36.620 article that associated leaky gut with being the initial insult that allowed these fragments 00:39:36.620 --> 00:39:44.020 to pass across into the bloodstream and set up auto-immunity because they are recognized 00:39:44.020 --> 00:39:50.660 as foreign and some of these substances they mentioned things like glidin from gluten and 00:39:50.660 --> 00:39:55.100 that protein I didn't actually have the time to look at it I looked at the structure of 00:39:55.100 --> 00:40:01.060 triiodothyronine and thyroxine someone was saying I can't quote the person's name but 00:40:01.060 --> 00:40:05.140 I've got a small paragraph from their article they said that the glidin molecule was very 00:40:05.140 --> 00:40:12.740 similar to T3 and T4 structure and how when glidin got across a leaky gut and the permeability 00:40:12.740 --> 00:40:17.460 allowed that kind of thing to happen that within the bloodstream our own immune system 00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:22.260 unfortunately would recognize that glidin molecule was being so similar to thyroid that 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:28.100 it would actually cause an autoimmune thyroiditis as a consequence do you know anything about 00:40:28.100 --> 00:40:37.340 glidin structure? Oh yeah for a long time the cudiac disease has been increasing right along 00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:44.220 with the exposure to estrogen it has gone from mostly a childhood disease to mostly 00:40:44.220 --> 00:40:57.580 an adult women and there are several things that overlap antigenically with the tissues 00:40:57.580 --> 00:41:07.820 under the influence of estrogen and gluten and in particular can I hold you there I don't 00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:11.340 need a button Dr Peat we've got two callers on the air so let's take these two callers 00:41:11.340 --> 00:41:14.420 first and then we'll carry on yes because we definitely I want to hear what he has to 00:41:14.420 --> 00:41:19.100 say about the interaction of gluten and estrogen if we have time yeah let's go gluten so I'll 00:41:19.100 --> 00:41:22.540 make a note of that but Dr Peat let's take this first caller out of two caller you're 00:41:22.540 --> 00:41:27.660 on the air where you're from what's your question? Hi actually I'm in Garberville right now you 00:41:27.660 --> 00:41:32.460 guys started touching on this so maybe it's a perfect time to ask but I was going to ask 00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:36.460 I don't want to limit you to three foods but what are like three foods or three categories 00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:42.220 of foods one can avoid that are that you would say are highly carcinogenic and as far as the 00:41:42.220 --> 00:41:47.100 worst foods for you to put in your body how would you say that would compare I don't know 00:41:47.100 --> 00:41:52.860 you can't compare it to say smoking cigarettes thank you so carcinogenic foods 00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:59.260 the what food what would you say would be the top three carcinogenic foods 00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:09.500 oh uh polyunsaturated fat yeah any vegetable seed oil liquid seed oil that is polyunsaturated 00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:16.540 olive oil is 90 percent mono unsaturated 10 percent polyunsaturated otherwise all the other 00:42:16.540 --> 00:42:23.580 seed oils are polyunsaturated. So Dr Peat Poufer the first one how about number two? I would put 00:42:23.580 --> 00:42:36.540 the pro-inflammatory amino acid tryptophane I would say was a number two methionine cysteine 00:42:36.540 --> 00:42:44.140 and tryptophane and what are some foods? Turkey. High quality proteins in excess things like lots 00:42:44.140 --> 00:42:50.540 and lots of turkey well that's so that's basically not more than four ounces of meat per day 00:42:50.540 --> 00:42:57.340 is what you have generally recommended for someone trying to avoid carcinogenic excess of 00:42:57.340 --> 00:43:05.580 protein yeah definitely you don't want to eat a pound or a pound and a half of meat per day 00:43:06.620 --> 00:43:12.060 so Poufer pro-inflammatory amino acids particularly tryptophane and what else do 00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:23.900 you think number three contender for cancerous foods? I'm not sure anything that contains a 00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:32.460 very great excess of iron I think should have a high spot. And how does that relate to smoking 00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:38.780 a pack a day of cigarettes? How does it relate to what? Yeah so how is say having a diet rich in 00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:43.900 Poufas compared in cancer risk to smoking a pack a day of cigarettes, American cigarettes? 00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:51.180 Oh the Poufas are probably the biggest carcinogenic part of the American diet. 00:43:51.180 --> 00:43:56.220 Okay that was the first caller thanks for your question caller so let's move on to the second 00:43:56.220 --> 00:44:00.300 caller. Caller you're on the air and where you're from what's your question? Yes good evening I'm 00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:07.100 calling from Garberville as well I was curious you answered my first question which was the 00:44:07.100 --> 00:44:14.540 I eat a lot of olive oil which is unfiltered which is fabulous stuff so you've answered that 00:44:14.540 --> 00:44:21.980 question already the mono and so the second question was in relationship to our other caller 00:44:21.980 --> 00:44:30.620 who asked what the most carcinogenic foods were does whole wheat flour fall under that and how 00:44:30.620 --> 00:44:36.300 about what is the is the constituents of chicken a healthy thing to eat and I'll take my answer up 00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:46.780 here thank you very much gentlemen. Whole wheat flour? The reason flour and grains 00:44:48.140 --> 00:44:57.020 were polished white rice for example and white flour is that the whole grains get rancid 00:44:57.020 --> 00:45:05.580 and toxic fairly quickly in storage and so if you're going to eat the whole wheat flour soon 00:45:05.580 --> 00:45:14.700 after it's ground it's probably not so bad but still once it gets in your blood those excess 00:45:14.700 --> 00:45:22.380 polyunsaturated fats are starting to react with iron in your blood to produce 00:45:22.380 --> 00:45:38.620 lipid peroxides and pre-radical toxins. The polished rice has very little nutritional value 00:45:38.620 --> 00:45:49.100 but it has at least a way to see worse effects of storage toxins. The rancidity it's not going to 00:45:49.100 --> 00:45:56.620 go rancid white rice. Yeah very very little rancidity. So it prevents starvation because it 00:45:56.620 --> 00:46:01.980 doesn't have any other nutrients besides the carbohydrate. I actually I found myself sitting 00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:07.020 by an Asian American professor of nutrition and I asked him you know hippies eat brown rice obviously 00:46:07.020 --> 00:46:11.020 that's best why isn't that done in Asia and he said there was a storage issue because 00:46:11.020 --> 00:46:16.860 with white rice there's not enough nutrition that a weevil can't reproduce but if they're eating 00:46:16.860 --> 00:46:22.700 whole grain meals or grains then they're able to reproduce and you get an infestation instead of 00:46:22.700 --> 00:46:27.500 just losing a few grains. Well there's another reason. Yeah because it was everybody there ate 00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:32.220 tons of vegetables and then in some high quality meat and so it wasn't an issue of fiber and 00:46:32.220 --> 00:46:38.140 vitamins it was a storeable transportable food for armies and bureaucrats. And the caller asked 00:46:38.140 --> 00:46:47.420 about chicken your specific view on chicken too? On a typical industrial diet chicken is full of 00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:57.580 very unstable polyunsaturated fats and I think it in excess is pretty carcinogenic. But if you 00:46:57.580 --> 00:47:04.060 had access to good fresh locally raised chicken from a great diet no more than four ounces a day 00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:13.500 is okay? Yeah I think so the same with pork industrial pork has over 30 percent PUFAs in the 00:47:13.500 --> 00:47:22.140 fat and if people are careful what they feed their pigs the fat goes down almost like beef four 00:47:22.140 --> 00:47:29.180 percent of PUFAs of the fat. If you're not feeding them corn and all those PUFAs rich grains then the 00:47:29.180 --> 00:47:36.140 fat of the chicken and the fat of the pork or the pig will be less full of those toxic polyunsaturated 00:47:36.140 --> 00:47:44.060 or PUFAs oils we call them PUFAs. Yeah like the traditional pig diet of hopefully in old vegetables. 00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:51.020 Okay you're listening to Ask Europe. Dr. Jamie D. Garber full 91.1 FM. From now until the close 00:47:51.020 --> 00:47:57.900 of the show probably at five to the hour you're invited to call in the question 707 923 3911. 00:47:57.900 --> 00:48:04.140 Dr. Peat before you lose the train of thought not that you do lose too much if anything much 00:48:04.140 --> 00:48:09.660 gluten and estrogen so I wanted to make sure that we got that connection. Yeah there's a 00:48:09.660 --> 00:48:20.860 enzyme transglutaminase is in common between gluten and for example the lining of the 00:48:20.860 --> 00:48:31.500 intestine acted upon by estrogen and so if we have antibodies to foreign protein gluten 00:48:31.500 --> 00:48:38.540 they will act against our own tissues as far as they're under the influence of estrogen 00:48:38.540 --> 00:48:47.580 which induces the transglutaminase and the transglutaminase aspect of estrogen 00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:57.180 it's the cross-linking enzyme that hardens collagen and under the influence of estrogen 00:48:57.180 --> 00:49:05.340 producing transglutaminase collagen itself becomes hardened and carcinogenic. 00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:11.660 Rather than flexible. Interesting we have another caller on the air so let's let's go there first. 00:49:11.660 --> 00:49:19.260 He was able to do it in five words opinion on eating flax I'm sorry hemp seed and pumpkin seed. 00:49:19.260 --> 00:49:24.700 Hemp seed versus pumpkin seed. Or either both. 00:49:24.700 --> 00:49:39.100 They are not necessarily the worst for the proof of it I wouldn't say it's something you should 00:49:39.100 --> 00:49:46.700 do regularly because of the breakdown products they're probably fairly rancid by the time you 00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:52.140 ingest them anyway. Okay we've got one more caller on the air and I think we're going to leave this 00:49:52.140 --> 00:49:57.420 next caller coming to be the last one just so that the engineer can clear up for eight o'clock and 00:49:57.420 --> 00:50:02.220 I'm going to carry on talking with you Dr Peat. So let's take this next caller away from what's 00:50:02.220 --> 00:50:08.220 your question? I'm just from Redway and I my question is you know I'm a construction worker 00:50:08.220 --> 00:50:20.380 so I work in that with um you know the typical construction materials be they um you know uh 00:50:20.380 --> 00:50:31.500 laminated glues, butyls, ABS glues, I cut APS glue off the pipe all the time and those I would assume 00:50:31.500 --> 00:50:39.020 are excluding the same kind of the bioestrogens that you're referring to um I and then you know 00:50:39.020 --> 00:50:46.620 and then there's also insulation and those I would really love to hear a program if you don't mind me 00:50:46.620 --> 00:50:55.980 hijacking it for a second to to talk about the things that that that uh you know that uh the 00:50:55.980 --> 00:51:04.300 general public are exposed to on it but I do I'm you know I would love to hear about ABS and 00:51:04.300 --> 00:51:16.220 PVC polyvinyl chloride and and how those um chemicals um react and and I'm afraid I didn't 00:51:16.220 --> 00:51:23.180 listen to your show before this but I would really love to know because I do work with them often. 00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:28.300 Yeah well Dr. Peat let's thank you for your question Corey let's give it over to Dr. Peat first and then 00:51:28.300 --> 00:51:36.460 just remind you that on our website we do run oh 85 percent of the shows that we've done I still 00:51:36.460 --> 00:51:41.660 have a lot to put up from 2021. 20 and 21 unfortunately there's some of the hottest 00:51:41.660 --> 00:51:46.860 stuff we've done actually on Covid but Dr. Peat the building materials I mean not just in California 00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:51.980 with their supposed safe regulations and we'll get into that at some other point but um the glues 00:51:51.980 --> 00:51:59.260 and you know the PVCs and all of their sealants and solvents and Christie's hot glue hate the smell 00:51:59.260 --> 00:52:08.780 of that stuff even the safety law system as far as it's existing it's really part of of a 00:52:08.780 --> 00:52:18.780 superstructure that enforces the use of the dangerous materials that they have laws to 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:28.060 supposedly protect you against them but the basic system is designed to direct production towards 00:52:28.060 --> 00:52:40.380 these cheapest and most dangerous chemicals the in the long run 10 years or more I think the problem 00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:49.980 would be solved very economically instead of continuing the deforestation to make lumber 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:56.060 and plywood and and so on and then support fire departments to put out houses that are 00:52:56.060 --> 00:53:04.700 burning down living in Mexico I was interested that there are practically no fire departments 00:53:04.700 --> 00:53:13.020 because that's all mud and cement and mud and cement are very cheap building materials 00:53:13.020 --> 00:53:21.820 they pollute very little you you wind up some some rocks natural and can make your house 00:53:21.820 --> 00:53:30.140 any shape you want and it's chemically inert once it gets in place yeah you can burn seashells and 00:53:30.140 --> 00:53:36.940 make your own lime slate lime it's just uh okay so that's so what are some dietary strategies 00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.380 if you've been working all day with these horrible chemicals what should you eat and what should you 00:53:40.380 --> 00:53:44.300 do to get that stuff out of your body that's why I was just going to ask Dr Peat in the last couple 00:53:44.300 --> 00:53:50.700 minutes of this show let's discuss some ways to help protect ourselves against the carcinogenic 00:53:50.700 --> 00:53:56.300 effects of estrogen and I know you've gone on about raw grated carrot and how effective they 00:53:56.300 --> 00:54:01.100 aren't helping to decrease the endotoxin that we were talking about earlier but also that they 00:54:01.100 --> 00:54:11.180 can actually absorb estrogen from the bowel yeah any good fiber that isn't too poisonous our carrots 00:54:11.180 --> 00:54:17.500 have their own poisons but the fiber keeps us from absorbing when when it's raw carrot 00:54:18.220 --> 00:54:26.060 and moderately shredded we absorb very little of these irritating or toxic chemicals but 00:54:26.060 --> 00:54:35.500 other fibers you might find are more agreeable anything from well-cooked mushrooms or bamboo 00:54:35.500 --> 00:54:48.540 foods even to a well-cooked bran oat bran for example has a fiber effect of getting the intestine 00:54:48.540 --> 00:54:52.060 out of your intestine so it doesn't recycle and poison your liver 00:54:52.060 --> 00:55:01.340 and so keeping the intestine as clean as possible means also keeping a rapid transit time 00:55:02.300 --> 00:55:09.580 and avoiding irritating foods that could cause inflammation and constipation 00:55:09.580 --> 00:55:17.740 and part of the effect it is to watch that your thyroid isn't suppressed because that will slow 00:55:17.740 --> 00:55:25.180 the elimination of estrogen so keeping your metabolic rate up keeping a temperature around 00:55:25.180 --> 00:55:33.980 98.6 during the peak of the daytime that will tend to give you a quick peristalsis and 00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:42.140 get things through your intestine before they have a chance to irritate and produce endotoxin and 00:55:42.140 --> 00:55:47.740 recycle estrogen and the other two supplements that are very helpful with keeping estrogen at bay 00:55:47.740 --> 00:55:53.340 or you know in our food of calcium is definitely one of them that helps to keep estrogen levels low 00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:57.820 and vitamin d those are two other supplements that you can take or you know hopefully you're 00:55:57.820 --> 00:56:04.540 getting your calcium from dairy and green leafy vegetables and because they keep your metabolic 00:56:04.540 --> 00:56:12.700 rate higher the way thyroid does the calcium especially from low-fat milk supported by vitamin 00:56:12.700 --> 00:56:22.140 d both are very good for weight loss and then lastly one last thing is progesterone is a direct combat 00:56:22.140 --> 00:56:28.620 molecule to estrogen okay let's hold it there folks thank you so much for your time dr p i'll 00:56:28.620 --> 00:56:32.940 just give out your information here okay okay for those of you who've listened to the show 00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:38.940 Dr. Raymond Peat, raypeat.com plenty of articles to read lots of science backing it 00:56:39.580 --> 00:56:46.220 our website western botanical medicine.com we've got probably 12 years 13 14 years of archive shows 00:56:46.220 --> 00:56:50.460 i've got all of the shows from 20 and 21 to go up unfortunately haven't done it been very busy but 00:56:50.460 --> 00:56:55.900 there are lots of covid shows there to show how ridiculous this entire fast is i wanted just to 00:56:55.900 --> 00:57:00.780 finish up the show um we're going to discuss a little bit about authoritarianism and i just 00:57:00.780 --> 00:57:05.260 this afternoon when i was getting the stuff together for the show during the course of the 00:57:05.260 --> 00:57:10.140 afternoon here um came up with what i want to read out now and it's just like a bit of a eulogy for 00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:13.980 you those listening out there and for people for future posterity but basically i called it 00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:21.260 authoritarianism and the age of acceptance have it all and have nothing we're evolving as a species 00:57:21.260 --> 00:57:26.860 and with our evolution comes the concept of deranged acceptance nature is not accepting but 00:57:26.860 --> 00:57:33.020 rather through evolutionary pressure it selects a fittest and is quite barbaric it takes no prisoners 00:57:33.020 --> 00:57:38.780 and is quite merciless rules exist and nature obeys them set from the foundation of the world 00:57:38.780 --> 00:57:44.220 which we recently have also learned to meddle with and derange like viruses and gain of function 00:57:44.220 --> 00:57:50.380 research and the origins of covid the opposite perhaps of the all-encompassing embrace of 00:57:50.380 --> 00:57:56.860 everything is allowable are the immutable laws set in place which we are constrained to like time 00:57:56.860 --> 00:58:04.220 gravity and death authoritarianism like cultural marxism is at odds with our founding father's 00:58:04.220 --> 00:58:09.740 constitution of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness which is a god ordained decree 00:58:09.740 --> 00:58:15.260 immutable and self-evident echoing martin luther's famous speech from the emancipation 00:58:15.260 --> 00:58:21.740 proclamation like gain of function research and authoritarianism these are set at odds with their 00:58:21.740 --> 00:58:28.540 counterpart and are to be resisted with your life evolution demands that fitness be preserved and 00:58:28.540 --> 00:58:34.620 aimed at physically and spiritually and so with increasing authoritarianism and draconian 00:58:34.620 --> 00:58:40.940 legislation aimed at making us happier to coexist with everything except everything have no boundaries 00:58:40.940 --> 00:58:48.940 and have no morals i'll leave you with this have at it or resist and live 2022 will soon be here 00:58:48.940 --> 00:58:53.900 but we will move on and for those who have ears let them hear what the spirit says 00:58:53.900 --> 00:58:59.340 merry christmas and a happy new year to you all my name is andrew murray my 00:58:59.340 --> 00:59:14.140 name is sarah Johannesen murray thanks for tuning in tonight good night good night 00:59:18.940 --> 00:59:26.140 do 00:59:48.940 --> 00:59:56.140 do 00:59:56.140 --> 01:00:10.140 well that's an adventure