WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.600 "The following program is being brought to you on the Voice America Variety Channel. 00:00:05.600 --> 00:00:09.400 For more information about our network and to check our additional show hosts and topics 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.480 of interest, please visit VoiceAmericaVariety.com. 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:18.720 The Voice America Talk Radio Network is the worldwide leader in live internet talk radio. 00:00:18.720 --> 00:00:20.400 Visit VoiceAmerica.com. 00:00:20.400 --> 00:00:24.400 The views and ideas expressed on the following program are strictly those of the host or 00:00:24.400 --> 00:00:29.560 guest and do not necessarily reflect the views and ideas held by the Voice America Talk Radio 00:00:29.560 --> 00:00:45.840 Network, its staff and management." 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:47.600 Welcome to the Sharon Kleiner Hour. 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:50.600 Health, environment and the power of water. 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:54.400 What you hear in the next hour could very well save your life. 00:00:54.400 --> 00:00:57.440 Now here's your host, Sharon Kleiner. 00:00:57.440 --> 00:01:00.640 I want to invite you to listen to the Sharon Kleiner Hour. 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.920 The Power of Water. 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:04.680 I'm Sharon Kleiner. 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:10.800 For many years I have been studying, for over 30 years, water, water, water. 00:01:10.800 --> 00:01:16.200 But I chose to study not only the water that we're living with on the surface of the earth, 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:23.400 below the surface of the earth and around our planet, but also the water vapor, that 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:31.120 humidity you've heard about, water vapor, the greenhouse gas effects with water vapor. 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:37.160 The water vapor from the moment you were born became your most important influence of your 00:01:37.160 --> 00:01:38.160 life. 00:01:38.160 --> 00:01:41.840 It's where you live and the air you're breathing. 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.480 That became a focus. 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:50.200 Without water on earth, there would be no water vapor, humidity for you to stay alive, 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:51.200 all of us. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:54.680 These are the symptoms of your life, individually. 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.040 The moment you were born in that delivery room, you opened your eyes. 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:01.320 There are no two eyes alike, no two fingerprints alike, and more. 00:02:01.320 --> 00:02:02.760 We're all different. 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:04.680 We're all dehydrating differently. 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.920 So that water vapor in the air is so influential. 00:02:08.920 --> 00:02:14.840 Water on the earth, water vapor, and what is happening with our cloud system. 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:18.320 We've been talking about this for so long. 00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:23.480 The one influence I'm trying to express here throughout the world, listening on Voice America 00:02:23.480 --> 00:02:30.800 and our Apple iTunes and our syndications, is let's get together and learn more about 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.240 the education that we're all providing. 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:38.920 All of us, each one of us, participate on the earth lasting forever. 00:02:38.920 --> 00:02:45.800 But we can't do it without water on the surface, fresh water, and water vapor, and that cloud 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.440 system, and then influence each other and those aquifers. 00:02:49.440 --> 00:02:54.600 Example, here in America, I'm an American, here in the United States of America, I'm 00:02:54.600 --> 00:02:56.640 coming to you from Oregon. 00:02:56.640 --> 00:03:02.320 I'm in southern Oregon in the Rogue River Valley, sitting here on the famous Rogue River 00:03:02.320 --> 00:03:07.040 and the most beautiful rivers of the world and the mountains that are gorgeous with tall 00:03:07.040 --> 00:03:11.520 trees and green and gorgeous and on water. 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.040 We're even having challenges with water. 00:03:14.040 --> 00:03:17.240 The water is around us, but we're having challenges. 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:26.560 Now in America, there's no place in the world that uses more water a day than in the Americans. 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:33.040 After showering, using the bathroom and brushing our teeth, and having one cup of coffee or 00:03:33.040 --> 00:03:37.000 tea, this typically takes 30 gallons of water. 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:41.920 Now I'm used to doing that, and many people in America and throughout the world are used 00:03:41.920 --> 00:03:50.960 to showering, bathing, and brushing their teeth, having a cup of coffee or tea, and 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:58.400 using the facilities of the bathroom, and they can be using over 30 gallons of water 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.280 right there. 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:10.800 After doing dishes with a dishwasher, 12 gallons per load, running a washing machine, 43 gallons 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:18.320 of water per load, watering your lawn, which here in America we love our green lawns, 10 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:20.440 gallons per minute. 00:04:20.440 --> 00:04:28.800 By the time we go to bed, the average American is using 150 gallons of water a day. 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:35.840 So therefore, when I say the concerns I have about fresh water is serious, look what's 00:04:35.840 --> 00:04:38.120 happening in China. 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:46.680 They have 118 rivers polluted, the black carbon particle in the air is polluting the waters, 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.680 the water vapor they're breathing, and all of us around the world, we can go indoors 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:58.280 with insulated windows and walls and have a pollution problem in America because we 00:04:58.280 --> 00:05:02.480 have insulated windows and walls and forced air heating and cooling. 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:07.480 The subject matter has been coming up more and more thanks to people out there like ourselves 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:12.720 and others that are really promoting this throughout the world. 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:18.800 Water is overtaking oil as our scarcest natural resource in the world says, Stephen Solomon, 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:20.520 and we've had Stephen Solomon on here. 00:05:20.520 --> 00:05:29.680 He's the author of a book called Water, the Epic Struggle for Wealth, Power, and Civilization. 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:35.800 Even we're going to find in the United States as well, that in the United States by 2030, 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.860 we could be short 40% of the water we require. 00:05:40.860 --> 00:05:42.800 Other books are out, Water Wars. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:47.360 War has been going on around water since the beginning of time. 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.800 Have you ever noticed that the cities and the communities and the villages are surrounded 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:52.800 by water? 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.920 They go to water. 00:05:54.920 --> 00:06:03.600 At one point in 2001, the New York Times featured a full front page story on water scarcity. 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.680 This was back in 2001. 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:12.520 That's going to be a water scarcity and that in Texas we'll have a water scarcity. 00:06:12.520 --> 00:06:18.160 Even though oil has made them rich, the problem is they're not going to have the oil. 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.760 The liquid gold for Texas and other places in the world is going to be the water. 00:06:24.760 --> 00:06:30.680 The water that surrounds us, although always has been recognized to everyone all over the 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.880 world, has been the source of life. 00:06:35.880 --> 00:06:37.960 What's going to happen when you don't have it? 00:06:37.960 --> 00:06:39.880 Will you go steal it from your neighbor? 00:06:39.880 --> 00:06:44.000 Will you go take it from the river coming from another state? 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:51.520 The potential of this is very concerning, but we can all do something about it together. 00:06:51.520 --> 00:06:56.120 There's a book out there called Water Wars that you need to read about. 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:01.280 There's an individual who wrote it and I'm going to spell it. 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:11.720 Vandana Shiva, it's an excellent book on water wars. 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:18.840 We have a book that we had Dr. Neil Grigg on here, Water Finance. 00:07:18.840 --> 00:07:25.560 Water will become the most expensive part of your life in time unless we begin to study 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.840 it more and more and what we can do with it. 00:07:28.840 --> 00:07:32.840 I can't emphasize it more and that's what this show has been about. 00:07:32.840 --> 00:07:34.480 Today I have an exciting guest. 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.320 I was really looking forward to having him on for you to learn more about water and your 00:07:39.320 --> 00:07:43.760 life and your organisms and how you function as a body. 00:07:43.760 --> 00:07:50.360 We're functioning on 80% water and those cells, up to 50 trillion of them in your body, must 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:56.120 function with you drinking water every day and how you eat and how you conduct your life 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.120 and what you choose in your life. 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.120 His name is Dr. Ray Peat. 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.120 His last name is P-E-A-T, PhD. 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.440 He comes from Eugene, Oregon. 00:08:05.440 --> 00:08:09.400 The topic today is going to be aging, nutrition, and hormones. 00:08:09.400 --> 00:08:12.080 We'll be talking a lot about water. 00:08:12.080 --> 00:08:19.560 We'll listen to our sponsor, Biologic Aqua Research's product, Nature's Tears I Missed. 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:25.400 Nature's Tears I Missed is a technology to supplement the tear film of the surface of 00:08:25.400 --> 00:08:26.520 your eye. 00:08:26.520 --> 00:08:33.800 Did you know that the surface of your eye is 98% water and you have an 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00:10:22.640 --> 00:10:37.840 I'm Dr. Peat. 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.840 Are you with us? 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:41.840 Yes, I am. 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:42.840 Thank you for joining us. 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.640 I know how busy you've been and I've been really looking forward to this. 00:10:47.640 --> 00:10:52.520 Our listeners around the world, I would like them to get to know who you are. 00:10:52.520 --> 00:10:56.480 You have a Ph.D. in biology and it's from the University of Oregon. 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.760 You're specializing in physiology. 00:11:00.760 --> 00:11:08.360 You've taught at many schools and you've continued your research, I could see, since way back 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.880 in the 70s. 00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:12.560 You may have started earlier. 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:18.040 I want the audience to know you've continued in research a long time with your mission 00:11:18.040 --> 00:11:23.920 here to understand aging, nutrition, hormones and more. 00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:29.280 You can tell the audience what your focus has been for so long. 00:11:29.280 --> 00:11:38.320 I didn't actually start professional biology study until 1968 at the university. 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:45.320 I studied there for four years in physiology and biochemistry. 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:55.040 Before that, around 1950, I had heard about Albert Szent-Györgyi and the lectures he went 00:11:55.040 --> 00:12:05.520 around the country doing demonstrations of living tissue and the state of water inside 00:12:05.520 --> 00:12:08.200 muscles for example. 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:17.120 He could show that the condition of the water as it affected molecules changed instantaneously 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:24.200 when a muscle was stimulated or when a nerve was activated. 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:32.560 I looked around to see who else was working on that kind of thing and it was utterly neglected 00:12:32.560 --> 00:12:36.120 by the professional biologists. 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:43.600 He happened to have got interested in this line of thinking many years earlier, got his 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:54.160 Nobel Prize working on vitamin C, but his real interest was in how the state of water 00:12:54.160 --> 00:13:03.760 changes between life and death and different states of energy production. 00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:11.520 I had that in mind all through the 60s and I taught a biology course in Ohio at a little 00:13:11.520 --> 00:13:23.400 college and while I was working there, Linus Pauling did some research that lined up with 00:13:23.400 --> 00:13:33.720 Albert Szent-Györgyi and he proposed that anesthetics work by altering the state of water in cells. 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:46.080 I looked around again and saw that the chemical community was ignoring Linus Pauling even 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:54.120 though he had the Nobel Prize and these two people were outstanding for their interest 00:13:54.120 --> 00:14:02.440 in how water lets organisms work. 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:13.160 For several years, I decided that despite the established academic science culture lacking 00:14:13.160 --> 00:14:21.520 any interest in what I wanted to study, I had enough experience with universities to 00:14:21.520 --> 00:14:28.440 go through and use their instruments to do the research I wanted without getting indoctrinated 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:36.520 by their belief that everything is governed by genes, molecules, membranes and so on. 00:14:36.520 --> 00:14:39.760 Why do you think they left so much behind? 00:14:39.760 --> 00:14:46.240 Because as you've known by far greater than I, more studies that you've done is so far 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:54.000 back in the 1500s, 1800s and more, they really were studying all of this. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:03.600 Like Lawrence Henderson who had a lot of research on water and the fitness of the environment 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.560 and these doctors. 00:15:05.560 --> 00:15:11.920 You have a doctor, Gilbert Ling here, a Ph.D. that I've read here that you've discussed. 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:17.040 Why do you think they left all that study behind? 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:24.520 It was a philosophical doctrine that took over. 00:15:24.520 --> 00:15:31.480 It related to the mainline medicine. 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:45.320 Allopathic medicine had its idea of what an organism is and the gene people were representing 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:52.840 almost a religious line of thinking that hated to admit that organisms were as complicated 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.680 as they are. 00:15:54.680 --> 00:16:00.800 They were imposing this system of beliefs all through science. 00:16:00.800 --> 00:16:10.760 There's a book by someone that I knew in the 1960s called Cold War in Biology that explains 00:16:10.760 --> 00:16:20.840 how there was a doctrinaire political campaign going on all through the universities of America 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:32.000 to change the thinking and direct thoughts to genetic engineering to make it an industrial, 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:39.920 manageable concept of how organisms work. 00:16:39.920 --> 00:16:47.000 The other people were going directly to the organisms, seeing what happens. 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:57.120 The mainline thinking wanted to go from factories to doctors to what they could sell. 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:02.200 They were putting the marketing department first. 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:07.960 I noticed that in one of your descriptions and I totally agree with you on that, doctor. 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:13.040 I've noticed that when I have been out there for so long doing what I do with my research 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:18.080 and then I took a product to market, water, I was the first person to do what I did with 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:19.440 water. 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:28.280 I always discuss the benefit and the education behind it all and the marketing will come 00:17:28.280 --> 00:17:35.280 with it if you do that correctly to get it better understood why the product has a benefit. 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:36.280 You're right. 00:17:36.280 --> 00:17:41.800 A lot of people go to the market selling the product and forgetting what the product is 00:17:41.800 --> 00:17:45.000 benefiting to do and more. 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.000 You're right. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:50.000 I've gotten into maybe the greed, let's call it, to be fair to them. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:54.200 I'll come up with another side of it, but the greed of getting it out there, getting 00:17:54.200 --> 00:18:01.880 it understood that this will sell quicker, this will get a patent quicker maybe if they 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:04.200 go about it that direction. 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:11.200 To be fair to everyone, I always say, "Well, the word patent, Dr. Peat, came up long ago 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.440 and if you could get a patent on it and for so long they didn't think you could get a 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:20.240 patent on the description of water." 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:21.760 Now they know they can. 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:22.760 I did it. 00:18:22.760 --> 00:18:30.720 But the thing is, when I first launched a product for the skin, because I was so convinced 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.360 that what you're saying is the skin is dehydrating. 00:18:34.360 --> 00:18:39.760 The skin on the outside of the body needs hydration, water. 00:18:39.760 --> 00:18:44.560 Then they said when I was looking for capital, they'd say, "Well, can it be patented?" 00:18:44.560 --> 00:18:48.280 I'm sitting there just fuming. 00:18:48.280 --> 00:18:53.960 I learned, to be fair, everything in marketing, they want it to be patented. 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:58.280 Then when I decided to do one, I was asked to do one for the eyes because the dehydrated 00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:01.760 eyes at the service in the tear film, I studied it. 00:19:01.760 --> 00:19:06.040 Then we decided, "Let's go for a patent there," and we've been patented, almost approved all 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:10.040 over the world with a description of water. 00:19:10.040 --> 00:19:15.960 When you look back on it, Dr. Peat, do you think that's why they left the water behind? 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:23.440 Because water is the primary reason we're alive and dehydration is the word that you 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:26.720 very seldom hear about until all of a sudden lately. 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:32.400 Have you noticed, Dr., you're hearing the word dehydration quite commonly lately, not 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.660 just because your temperature is rising. 00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:37.800 You're hearing the word dehydration. 00:19:37.800 --> 00:19:45.760 I think it's a matter of being able to control products. 00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:56.020 When I took my first course in muscle physiology, water was absolutely neglected. 00:19:56.020 --> 00:20:07.440 The membrane was there to keep the water inside and the enzymes caused reactions, but the 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:16.560 way the water handled, controlled the chemical reactions was absolutely neglected and the 00:20:16.560 --> 00:20:18.880 professors didn't want to talk about it. 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:26.240 In electron microscopy, my professor had his model of how the little parts inside the cell 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:36.260 worked and the spaces were so narrow that only a few layers of water would fit between 00:20:36.260 --> 00:20:43.040 the molecules, but he absolutely didn't want to talk about what was in those spaces. 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:51.320 But a professor at the University of Washington, Gerald Pollack, is demonstrating that he has 00:20:51.320 --> 00:20:55.700 videos available on the Internet that are just amazing. 00:20:55.700 --> 00:21:05.440 He shows that the effect of a surface organizes water and causes water to be in control of 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:13.840 things dissolved in it at a tremendous distance out from the surface, which is vastly greater 00:21:13.840 --> 00:21:17.400 than the areas involved inside the cell. 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:25.040 So when you look back at what these professors were doing, they were basically being crazy 00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:31.880 to ignore the great power of the water inside the cell when Gerald Pollack is demonstrating 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:40.840 that it extends out so you can see it in a beaker or in a glass tube. 00:21:40.840 --> 00:21:44.960 To be fair, because of the medical team I've put together throughout the years, there are 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:52.520 physicians and surgeons in all backgrounds, nature paths and more, PhDs, until they have 00:21:52.520 --> 00:21:57.240 something to compare to, they're all afraid to discuss it, the nature of what it is. 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:58.920 Now you could answer that better than I. 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:05.840 There is a nature to the water, there is a nature to its function, and the dehydration 00:22:05.840 --> 00:22:06.840 effect from birth. 00:22:06.840 --> 00:22:14.080 What do you think to analyze that, because it's been causing a lot of problems that 00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:18.280 they don't want to go to the nature of that molecule in the cell. 00:22:18.280 --> 00:22:25.120 In fact, I had a Nobel Prize winner on here, Doctor, and he said, "Sharon, it took me 00:22:25.120 --> 00:22:32.000 25 years, millions of dollars, and no end of doctors to prove there is water there in 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.000 that cell." 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.000 It didn't go anywhere. 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.000 Now there's water. 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:45.040 Doctor, can you imagine how far we've come in research and they still don't want to admit 00:22:45.040 --> 00:22:49.720 that we're made up of water and when the research goes in to study all of these diseases and 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:53.000 symptoms, they don't go after the dehydration and the water first. 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:54.720 I think they should. 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:58.000 I'm committed to that statement. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:04.320 When I was a little kid, I would ask people why the water was blue, and they would say 00:23:04.320 --> 00:23:07.240 it was the sky reflecting in it. 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:14.120 I was at Crater Lake on a cloudy day when the sky was absolutely gray and the lake was 00:23:14.120 --> 00:23:17.920 just as blue as ever. 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:25.200 The whole culture, including Science Magazine, the journal of the American Association for 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:32.440 the Advancement of Science, they were as recently as the 1970s publishing articles claiming 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:43.680 that basically it was the sky, the way light was interacting with the water. 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:51.240 But Linus Pauling, way back in one of his textbooks, said in the properties of water, 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:55.960 it's a blue substance. 00:23:55.960 --> 00:24:03.440 The fact that you can put water in a bucket and it's blue, it's simply obvious to the 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:13.400 eye, but science had this insane need to abstract things, to say water basically isn't there. 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:20.760 It has only these things that we are willing to assign it. 00:24:20.760 --> 00:24:23.560 That is the common sense. 00:24:23.560 --> 00:24:30.720 With your background, as educated as you are and as much as you've learned with your research 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:35.920 and more and publications to write now, there's common sense. 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:41.320 I've been very lucky. 00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:47.360 I've had the head of stem cell transplant research from Harvard on here. 00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:48.960 She agrees, water. 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:58.680 I've had the head of nutrition research from Harvard and he said water and nutrition. 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:03.120 You with your background have been pounding the pavement for so long. 00:25:03.120 --> 00:25:10.960 Water and the individualities of what is happening to the body and its water content in its cells 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:15.000 and relationships to how it's living. 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:21.600 I've gone after the air we're living in because I found that they ignored the water vapor 00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:23.640 too, doctor. 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:30.960 You hear the word humidity, but water vapor, greenhouse gas go together. 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:38.840 Carbon dioxide much later, but there's an influence with the body water, the water vapor, 00:25:38.840 --> 00:25:46.280 the cloud system, the water on the surface of our earth plus what's in the aquifer all 00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:47.280 over the world. 00:25:47.280 --> 00:25:50.640 That's a relationship we all have. 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:54.480 Now tell us, what is magnet, what you're teaching us? 00:25:54.480 --> 00:26:00.360 Magnet is a stabilizer of the whole water system, ground water and air water depend 00:26:00.360 --> 00:26:04.480 on the interaction of forests. 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:10.080 Deforestation has been causing a terrible change in the water system. 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:14.760 Exactly, and the water vapor and the cloud system. 00:26:14.760 --> 00:26:16.560 Right, right. 00:26:16.560 --> 00:26:26.240 We have a part of our team, Dr. Duane Cecil, PhD, who was with NASA for 35 years and NOAA. 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.000 He has said the same thing, that this impact, but it can be corrected. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:38.160 They can go back in and you know, doctor, I truly believe that I could be wrong and 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.160 you know better than I. 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.040 I'm going to give you an example. 00:26:42.040 --> 00:26:45.920 People are not educated about it. 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.400 When we're talking water, we're talking about the obvious. 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.960 There's the puddle, there's the lake, there's the stream, there's the river. 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.320 We've got to be careful with the irrigation water. 00:26:57.320 --> 00:26:59.480 They're hearing always the same thing. 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:04.600 They're never hearing that they're water, that they're made up of water and the impact 00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:11.560 on them with the water vapor and the cloud system, the fresh water on the surface. 00:27:11.560 --> 00:27:16.040 People have to be impacted personally to feel what is happening to them. 00:27:16.040 --> 00:27:19.920 The education has not been what you just said today. 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:27.840 The walking human being is water and we need to look at the symptoms of their life individually 00:27:27.840 --> 00:27:33.640 as being related to the water in them and the water around them. 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.480 They're not being educated about that, doctor. 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:44.600 Part of the water system is the trunk of trees. 00:27:44.600 --> 00:27:53.800 The wood is moist and there are channels so that the moisture from inside the tree comes 00:27:53.800 --> 00:27:56.480 out into the leaves. 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:07.240 When the roots are slightly deprived of water, the tree can live by moving water from inside 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.240 its trunk. 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:18.620 The bigger the trunk is, the greater the reservoir of available water to put back into the air. 00:28:18.620 --> 00:28:25.480 If you cut down trees that are five or six feet in diameter and replace them with a forest 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:36.200 of trees that are six or eight inches in diameter, they are unstable as regulators of atmospheric 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:44.400 water because there's just a very tiny reservoir available to them. 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:52.080 So when the humidity goes down in the air, they aren't able to replenish it from these 00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:55.360 huge tanks of water in their trunks. 00:28:55.360 --> 00:29:01.600 And what's going on below their root system into the base of the earth below the soil. 00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:07.320 Something just came to my mind as you were talking. 00:29:07.320 --> 00:29:13.440 When our forest environmentalists were very concerned about the forest and not the cutting 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:18.920 at all, but they also didn't want to have the dead trees cut or the dead brush, which 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:24.200 brought in a lot of insects and problems. 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:30.200 If I put you in a spot, don't let me do that with this question, but what happens to the 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:36.960 healthy forest when you have dead trees around it, around the forest and in the forest and 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.240 the brush and the insects? 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.560 What would that do to dehydration of the trees? 00:29:43.560 --> 00:29:50.720 The insects come in after the forest is dying, basically, because the immune system of the 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.520 tree depends on good nourishment. 00:29:54.520 --> 00:30:01.520 And part of the nourishment comes from the rotting old generations. 00:30:01.520 --> 00:30:04.040 It's like organic gardening. 00:30:04.040 --> 00:30:11.840 You put the residue, the corn stalks, chop them up, let them rot and put them back in 00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:16.720 the soil so that the minerals that were taken out of the soil are constantly going back 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.300 into the soil. 00:30:18.300 --> 00:30:28.920 If you take a forest fire, it will reduce the brush and dead material to ashes, but 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:33.640 the ashes feed the soil and the next generation of trees and keep the cycle going. 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:40.600 But if you haul out the lumber and burn it somewhere else and dump the ashes basically 00:30:40.600 --> 00:30:46.360 into the rivers and oceans, you're polluting the rivers and oceans and starving the forest 00:30:46.360 --> 00:30:57.080 soils by hauling that tremendous amount of organic mineral residue out of the forests. 00:30:57.080 --> 00:31:05.760 You know, when you're talking there for a moment, I was following you with why you chose. 00:31:05.760 --> 00:31:11.400 You're so knowledgeable and you've done exactly what is so important to save lives on this 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:17.040 planet as you went to the depths of the origination of what the planet started with. 00:31:17.040 --> 00:31:23.320 We started with water vapor, water, fresh water, and then of course all of that ran 00:31:23.320 --> 00:31:26.160 down to a low point called an ocean. 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.680 And fresh water has an enormous influence on this planet. 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:37.320 As Gene Cernan said when he was on the moon the last time, he's looking back at Earth 00:31:37.320 --> 00:31:46.760 and he sees that blue ball of water vapor around Earth, and he said that's God's porch. 00:31:46.760 --> 00:31:54.560 And meaningfully, without the water and understanding and better education about water, people will 00:31:54.560 --> 00:31:55.560 take it for granted. 00:31:55.560 --> 00:32:01.200 And it's like Peter Brabeck, the chairman of Nestle, said, and he's really passionate 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.840 about water and the mission for himself, and Water II, Doctor. 00:32:04.840 --> 00:32:10.840 He said, too, people don't realize they're pricing it now because people have taken it 00:32:10.840 --> 00:32:16.000 so much for granted, Doctor, that it's going to become so much more expensive because they 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.880 took it way too for granted. 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:18.880 Water. 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:19.880 Yeah. 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:26.000 Vandana Shiva has some very important videos available on the Internet. 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:34.440 She was trained as a physicist, I think a nuclear physicist, but she realized that nuclear 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:41.600 energy wasn't going to help the health of the planet, that looking at the water economy 00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:42.600 was the really important thing. 00:32:42.600 --> 00:32:45.360 That's the woman, did you hear me before I started the show? 00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:48.720 That's the book I was talking about at the beginning of the show. 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:49.720 Yeah. 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:57.680 She, for many years, has been doing videos and movies, documentaries on the importance 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.840 of saving the water resources. 00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:02.840 We need to take a break. 00:33:02.840 --> 00:33:04.520 This will be our last one. 00:33:04.520 --> 00:33:05.520 Don't go anywhere. 00:33:05.520 --> 00:33:08.920 Then we're going to come back, and you're going to educate us about what your research 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:20.240 has been finding in the different categories of progesterone and the hormones. 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:26.800 Then we'll get into aging and nutrition because that aging and nutrition go together and the 00:33:26.800 --> 00:33:30.720 dehydration effects of the body, as far as I'm concerned. 00:33:30.720 --> 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00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:06.440 That's 1-866-472-5787. 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:07.440 Thank you for calling. 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:08.440 VoicedAmerica.com. 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:08.440 [music] 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:32.600 You're listening to the Sharon Kleiner Hour, Health, Environment, and the Power of Water. 00:35:32.600 --> 00:35:38.400 If you have a question or comment, please direct your email to SharonKleinerHour@yahoo.com. 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.320 That's Sharon Kleiner Hour at Yahoo.com. 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.720 Now, back to the program. 00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:50.920 Dr. Peat, you have spent a lot of time studying progesterone and the hormones, and I've been 00:35:50.920 --> 00:36:00.480 reading here about your valuations on the effects of estrogen, radiation stress, and 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.480 lack of oxygen, which I believe dehydration causes stress. 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:14.840 Could you explain to us and talk to the audience that they need to be educated about the progesterone 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:22.360 and the hormones, as if they don't really understand how they function? 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:33.000 The organism, the structure is mainly a system of protein molecules, and fat and nucleic 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:42.000 acids, DNA, and those things are in a way peripheral to the basic protein structure. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:52.080 The protein changes its electrical properties according to the chemical reactions going 00:36:52.080 --> 00:37:01.560 on inside, and it can change its acidity or alkalinity according to the metabolism and 00:37:01.560 --> 00:37:03.120 what you're eating. 00:37:03.120 --> 00:37:14.520 And ordinary, like a sponge or a bowl of Jell-O, any system with a lot of protein in it will 00:37:14.520 --> 00:37:22.880 change the way it holds water according to the degree of acidity and alkalinity. 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.000 Acidity makes it give up water. 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:38.120 Acidity makes it retain water, and the protein itself is on the acidic side, but it associates 00:37:38.120 --> 00:37:48.120 with alkaline metals like sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium, and these neutralize 00:37:48.120 --> 00:38:00.000 the acidity of the proteins and the metabolism of basically burning sugar in the presence 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.380 of oxygen. 00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:11.200 That energy is what regulates the balance of acidity and alkalinity, and in turn, it's 00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:17.200 the alkalinity essentially that makes the organism retain water. 00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:33.880 And edema, where your feet or fingers swell up, that is regulated as a result of bad metabolism 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:41.840 letting your hormones get out of balance, changing the acidity and alkalinity of the 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:48.400 whole organism so that instead of the water staying inside cells where it belongs, it 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:56.720 falls out of cells and collects in your feet and fingers or whatever is downhill under 00:38:56.720 --> 00:38:58.560 gravity. 00:38:58.560 --> 00:39:10.360 And the hormone that is most responsible for keeping the cells hydrated and functional, 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:16.560 demonstrating the processes that Albert Szent-Györgyi went around the country demonstrating 00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:25.160 in lectures with fluorescent lights showing that the muscle would become luminous when 00:39:25.160 --> 00:39:30.720 it contracted and dark when it was relaxed. 00:39:30.720 --> 00:39:40.320 These changes in the state of water are constantly being regulated mainly by the thyroid hormone 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:49.840 letting us use oxygen to produce energy, and the thyroid maintains the protective hormones 00:39:49.840 --> 00:40:01.640 such as progesterone, pregnenolone, testosterone, DHEA, and under stress or injury, some of 00:40:01.640 --> 00:40:12.720 the testosterone or DHEA changes in the estrogen which changes the ability to regulate water. 00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:23.520 It tends to create the edema state, but the edema reverses the functional state of the 00:40:23.520 --> 00:40:33.640 organism momentarily to put it back into a growth condition so that it can renew the 00:40:33.640 --> 00:40:34.640 cells. 00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:35.760 That's its function. 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:43.500 Once a month, there should be a surge of estrogen in a woman's tissues to prepare her for pregnancy 00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:52.280 and lactation, but if the estrogen persists too long, then the water is out of control 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:59.160 throughout the organism and it tends to cause the swelling, headaches, nervous tension, 00:40:59.160 --> 00:41:08.240 swollen feet, and so on associated with premenstrual syndrome or pregnancy problems and so on. 00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:15.720 Thyroid and progesterone are the most powerful hormones in preserving the proper retention 00:41:15.720 --> 00:41:20.760 of water in cells, not too much, not too little. 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.680 Now on young people, I've always used this as an example. 00:41:25.680 --> 00:41:29.920 The moment the baby left its mother's womb in the pocket of water, we entered in the 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:38.080 air we live in, and that's water vapor humidity and the influences of that from there on. 00:41:38.080 --> 00:41:41.880 There's no moisture meter today like they have blood pressure checks yet. 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:49.000 I hope to gosh we can do one someday and decide what is happening by checking that out regularly, 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:54.360 what is happening in the body, and what you have just said is that the individual, how 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.240 does an individual know this is all happening? 00:41:59.240 --> 00:42:05.200 The aging process is essentially a loss of water. 00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:14.280 A baby has an extremely high water content in its tissues, 80 something percent I think, 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:24.960 and a very old person gets down approaching maybe 55 percent, and the function decreases 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:31.620 along with the water so that a baby has an extremely high metabolic rate and ability 00:42:31.620 --> 00:42:35.480 to heal tissues. 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:47.960 At puberty, the resistance, health, vitality, everything is at a maximum, and after that 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.740 everything tends to go downhill. 00:42:50.740 --> 00:42:58.040 The ability to heal gradually decreases with aging, but all along the water content of 00:42:58.040 --> 00:43:07.080 the tissue right from conception to death, it's a decreasing percentage of water inside 00:43:07.080 --> 00:43:08.080 every cell. 00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:16.200 We've talked about water, and you've got to know a lot to help our listeners understand. 00:43:16.200 --> 00:43:21.240 We were talking about the acidity of the body and the alkaline that is so important. 00:43:21.240 --> 00:43:24.880 Tell us about what you've been learning about nutrition. 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:32.640 Here in America, all over the world, their nutrition habits were based on founders of 00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:33.640 taste. 00:43:33.640 --> 00:43:40.760 What is to you the best nutrition to help retain the water, to detoxify the body, and 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:49.960 keep a real gradual dehydration of the body that's healthy so the person will not age 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:53.720 too quickly and be healthier? 00:43:53.720 --> 00:43:54.720 Tell us some of it. 00:43:54.720 --> 00:43:56.760 What did you learn about nutrition? 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:05.240 There were some studies about 20 or 30 years ago in which if you feed the animal or even 00:44:05.240 --> 00:44:13.480 the tissue in a dish, if you feed it saturated fats such as coconut oil, the cells of the 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:23.720 skin grow in an orderly way, retaining their moisture, keeping the skin plump, firm, and 00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:25.840 resilient. 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:34.320 If you feed them polyunsaturated fats, they mature very quickly as if under the influence 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:41.640 of a vitamin A deficiency or estrogen excess. 00:44:41.640 --> 00:44:45.880 They're more susceptible to sun damage. 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:55.520 The cells grow slowly and in irregular columns and the skin overall is thinner. 00:44:55.520 --> 00:45:05.240 So the sun damage and too much polyunsaturated fat in the diet makes the skin age and become 00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:08.920 disorganized prematurely. 00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:16.400 That got me interested in coconut oil and about 20 years ago I started writing about 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.880 the biological effects of increasing... 00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.520 What about coconut water? 00:45:22.520 --> 00:45:25.640 I studied it a little bit too. 00:45:25.640 --> 00:45:32.360 It's a great source of minerals and if it's fresh, it has very good sugar and the sugar 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:42.920 oxidizes, produces carbon dioxide and the carbon dioxide is the main power in regulating 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.960 the alkalinity of cells. 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:56.160 That's what moves minerals in and out of cells and through your kidneys and so on. 00:45:56.160 --> 00:46:08.520 The fruit, orange juice is an ideal source of carbohydrate because it has its own minerals 00:46:08.520 --> 00:46:13.360 with it, the same as coconut water. 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:18.640 Coconut is a good food, cheese because of the high minerals. 00:46:18.640 --> 00:46:19.640 You're not anti-dairy. 00:46:19.640 --> 00:46:22.960 Your research hasn't proven anything about being anti-dairy. 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:32.280 No, because of the high value of the calcium content and the low ratio of phosphate to 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:37.440 calcium because phosphate is an age accelerating thing. 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:47.840 So a diet high in meat and nuts for example has a serious excess of phosphate and a deficiency 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.360 of calcium. 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:59.840 Calcium is one of the best things for stimulating the rate of metabolism and preventing obesity. 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:08.960 People who drink milk regularly are a very slim population in proportion to the amount 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:10.960 of calories they consume. 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:18.400 And there have been a couple of studies in which dementia is much higher in populations 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:23.720 that don't drink any milk. 00:47:23.720 --> 00:47:32.400 Now I also want to ask you about aging eyes, infant eyes, and you've done a lot of research 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.760 on that and the lungs. 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.840 Tell us about what you were learning about eyes because that's been a field I've been 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:46.080 involved with now for ten years with research about the eyes and what's happening with the 00:47:46.080 --> 00:47:51.000 environment and exposures with the environment today. 00:47:51.000 --> 00:48:02.320 I especially got interested in how the transparency of the cornea, lens, and vitreous humor, how 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:03.400 that works. 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:11.800 When I was in Mexico at Lake Pátzcuaro, the fish there are transparent, at least they 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:12.800 used to be. 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.280 I think pollution is changing it. 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:26.200 But in the market they would pile up fish that were the size of small trouts and even 00:48:26.200 --> 00:48:31.720 some eight inches long, others about the size of a cigar. 00:48:31.720 --> 00:48:40.860 You could read a magazine cover right through the fish, absolute transparency. 00:48:40.860 --> 00:48:50.680 That got me interested in the issue of what makes the sclera, the cornea, or the lens 00:48:50.680 --> 00:48:55.320 able to be transparent even though it has relatively little water. 00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.480 It's a very tough, hard, rubbery tissue. 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:10.320 The state of the water is so organized and you have to think about Gerald Pollack's research 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.560 to think about what organization can mean to water. 00:49:15.560 --> 00:49:26.840 The molecules are lined up such that the quantum energy is organized as it moves through. 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:38.040 There's another very important website, May Wan Ho, her last name is just Ho, called I 00:49:38.040 --> 00:49:44.280 think it's ISIS, Institute for Science. 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:53.200 She writes about the coherence of organisms involving this quantum level organization 00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:55.240 of water molecules. 00:49:55.240 --> 00:50:06.080 She has illustrations of the color continuity right through a whole organism showing that 00:50:06.080 --> 00:50:16.880 the light has to be organized by the organism as a whole, not by individual random atoms. 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:23.560 In the lens and the cornea, what this means is that if, for example, you have too much 00:50:23.560 --> 00:50:34.440 inflammation, too much estrogen, too much ultraviolet radiation, anything that excites 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:41.560 the tissue too much, it lets the water get disorganized. 00:50:41.560 --> 00:50:48.480 The water content increases just the way edema causes water to accumulate in your feet or 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:50.520 fingers where it shouldn't be. 00:50:50.520 --> 00:50:58.600 The water accumulates in a loose form and that's what causes the opacity of a cataract. 00:50:58.600 --> 00:51:04.920 It's actually too much water because it's out of control and disorganized. 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:15.280 Do you think that's because of the dehydration of the atmospheric influence of the eye, being 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.280 dehydrating too quickly? 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:24.720 We've been learning that if there's too much water, it's because the water is dehydrating 00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:28.160 too quickly. 00:51:28.160 --> 00:51:32.120 The proteins are dehydrating. 00:51:32.120 --> 00:51:37.160 They are losing the control of the water. 00:51:37.160 --> 00:51:46.920 The living substance has lost its water and the water is accumulating basically in random 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:47.920 places. 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.600 You can help me with this one. 00:51:51.600 --> 00:51:58.120 I've been studying that if the body is swelling, it's trying to hold back on its loss of water. 00:51:58.120 --> 00:52:02.080 It's dehydrating too quickly. 00:52:02.080 --> 00:52:07.720 As you said, the eyes and the brain are connected in the womb at the same time. 00:52:07.720 --> 00:52:16.600 The brain being an estimated 80% water and the eyes at the surface and the tear film 00:52:16.600 --> 00:52:19.680 aqueous layer about 98% water. 00:52:19.680 --> 00:52:25.880 If it's overreacting, the water is dehydrating too quickly. 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:31.600 And then with the carbohydrates that we're talking about and fats in the food, the cells 00:52:31.600 --> 00:52:32.600 are getting... 00:52:32.600 --> 00:52:34.840 I'm very blunt about this. 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:41.840 The toxin in the cell is getting too heated and you can correct me and I call that almost 00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:42.840 a manure. 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:44.040 It cannot expel. 00:52:44.040 --> 00:52:45.040 It cannot detoxify. 00:52:45.040 --> 00:52:46.680 It's heating up. 00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:50.600 Now you can correct me or help me with that. 00:52:50.600 --> 00:52:54.840 The age pigment is involved. 00:52:54.840 --> 00:53:00.800 That's what you see accumulating in spots on old people's skin. 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:10.080 But it starts anytime the tissue isn't getting enough oxygen to retain its water the way 00:53:10.080 --> 00:53:12.320 it should. 00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:22.040 The polyunsaturated fats become oxidized and form clumps of this dark orange or brown or 00:53:22.040 --> 00:53:24.080 black pigment. 00:53:24.080 --> 00:53:31.080 And this wastes oxygen and creates a vicious circle. 00:53:31.080 --> 00:53:36.120 So it's definitely junk accumulating in cells. 00:53:36.120 --> 00:53:42.840 But with enough energy, progesterone and thyroid, for example, can energize the cell enough 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.680 to reverse that age pigment. 00:53:45.680 --> 00:53:55.680 But it helps greatly if you use things like milk, orange juice, coconut water and coconut 00:53:55.680 --> 00:53:58.800 oil are good. 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.440 Not definitely not the thing... 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.160 We're out of time but I need to ask you. 00:54:03.160 --> 00:54:09.000 The first thing that came to my mind just now is you're living in Eugene, Oregon where 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:15.280 the University of Oregon football team with Chip Kelly was well-known in the past few 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:23.440 years that he really worked with his team on the science of health as a behavior and 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:28.280 nutrition and sleep and attitude. 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.280 Were you hired by him? 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:31.280 No. 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:37.640 Because everything you're saying is exactly what everybody... 00:54:37.640 --> 00:54:40.800 I call it the health Olympics, doctor. 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.760 We used to get out of bed every day and be in the health Olympics. 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.960 But what would you like to say to the audience? 00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:51.480 You definitely have done so much. 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.720 We've only got about half a minute left. 00:54:54.720 --> 00:54:58.080 What would you like to say to the audience worldwide on what you think you're going to 00:54:58.080 --> 00:55:01.640 be learning? 00:55:01.640 --> 00:55:03.720 There's so much on the Internet. 00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:12.320 If you look at websites like Vandana Shiva and Gerald Pollack and Martin Chaplin has 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:18.960 a great water website, many pages of very detailed information. 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:26.280 You can get information that your doctor won't know for a hundred years. 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:27.280 And then go to yours. 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:28.280 It's www.RayPeat.com. 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:38.800 While we're out of time, I enjoyed it and I know the world out there did too, Dr. Peat. 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:43.200 I hope I can have you back on someday because in the future when you have a moment because 00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:46.760 there's so much more that I could have had you discuss today. 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.560 But we really did learn a lot. 00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:54.520 I thank you so much for all you've done, your commitment and don't back off of the medical 00:55:54.520 --> 00:55:55.520 field. 00:55:55.520 --> 00:55:56.520 I know they're coming. 00:55:56.520 --> 00:55:59.840 Okay, thank you. 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:00.840 Thank you. 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:01.840 You have a nice day. 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:02.840 Bye. 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:03.840 Bye. 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.880 Well, we're out of time and I have to close. 00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:11.520 But I want to thank Pauli Featherton for getting Dr. Ray Peat. 00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:17.040 I think that's always going to be one of our most exciting educational shows. 00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:20.240 I know that you should embrace your life. 00:56:20.240 --> 00:56:23.360 You're in the Health Olympics and embrace somebody else's. 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.920 The earth is whispering to us every moment of the day. 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:30.360 Do not take it all with you. 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.240 Leave something behind of yourself. 00:56:33.240 --> 00:56:35.120 It's so important. 00:56:35.120 --> 00:56:36.760 And I want to thank you for listening. 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.680 I appreciate every one of our guests. 00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:42.040 I'm sure you will too. 00:56:42.040 --> 00:56:45.400 And I want you to have a nice day. 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:46.760 Think of the water. 00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.000 Drink your water and think about your health. 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.340 You're in the Health Olympics with all of us. 00:56:51.340 --> 00:56:52.400 Thank you for listening. 00:56:52.400 --> 00:57:07.400 You have a nice day and you be well. 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.400 Thank you for listening. 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:11.880 Join us next week for another edition of the Sharon Kleiner Hour. 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.040 Health, Environment and the Power of Water. 00:57:15.040 --> 00:57:19.840 Mondays at 10 a.m. Pacific Time on the Voice America Variety Channel with an encore Wednesdays 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.960 at 12 noon Pacific Time on the Voice America Health and Wellness Channel. 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.640 Remember to visit Sharon's website at SharonKleinerHour.com. 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.800 [ Music ]