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{\an8}(上田)この方々です｡

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♪～
(拍手と歓声)

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(上田)じゃあ皆さんのご紹介を
させていただきましょうかね｡

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{\an8}(上田)斎藤雅樹投手桑田真澄投手と
共に→

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{\an8}巨人の３本柱として大活躍｡

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{\an8}…を達成した名投手｡

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{\an8}(上田)その後…｡

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{\an8}(上田)…を放つなど｡

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{\an8}(上田)現役時代は｢くせ者｣と呼ばれ…｡

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{\an8}(上田)原監督の下…｡

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{\an8}…などで活躍｡

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{\an8}最近元プロ野球選手の→

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{\an8}YouTube再生回数が爆増中｡

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{\an8}令和以前のプロ野球の人気が再燃｡

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{\an8}なので今日は昭和･平成の
野球の魅力を３人に→

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存分に語ってもらおうと思います｡

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最初のページから
見ていきましょうか｡

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なるほど昭和っぽいですね
｢大乱闘！｣｡

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最近あんまり
乱闘見なくなりましたもんね｡

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(原田)１ページ目が大乱闘なの!?

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{\an8}最初は｡

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{\an8}(槙原)…になりますこれで｡

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{\an8}これで皆さんが
興味を示すと思います｡

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{\an8}(上田)じゃあ｢キレたらヤバい！
ガルベス大乱闘！｣から｡

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(長嶋)いやいや｡
(槙原)拍手じゃないんだよね｡

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(長嶋)拍手大丈夫です｡

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{\an8}(笑い)

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{\an8}(長嶋)この時は監督は…｡

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{\an8}>>えぇ…｡
(原田)それって…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)星野さんが…｡

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{\an8}だから実は…｡

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{\an8}>>ホンマですか!?

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{\an8}(有田)ホント!?
(長嶋)ホントだから！

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{\an8}だって有力選手は乱闘やって…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)それ以外の…｡

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行くわけですよ｡
(福田)すごいな！

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{\an8}(槙原)…みたいな感覚があったと
思います｡

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{\an8}結局長嶋さん次の日…｡

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{\an8}ガルベスはそこから６か月間…｡

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{\an8}(上田)ちなみに…｡

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{\an8}(上田)槙原さん答えづらいかも
しれないですけど…｡

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{\an8}>>＼早っ！／
(上田)ハハハ…あっさり｡

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{\an8}(槙原)ありますけど僕らからやれ
っていうことはないんですけど｡

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{\an8}(原田)
肉付きのいいキャッチャー…｡

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{\an8}(上田)…って思った時ございました？

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{\an8}(長嶋)ちょっと待てやめてよ俺…｡

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{\an8}みたいなさ
そういう言い方良くないよ｡

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{\an8}(有田)いやさっき…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)有田有田…有田｡

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{\an8}俺が…｡

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{\an8}１２３打席目｡

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{\an8}あの時はねコーチが…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)…って聞こえたんですよ｡
(上田)ベンチから広島の｡

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{\an8}>>頭!?

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{\an8}(上田)ハッキリ言わないでください｡
(福田)正直｡

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(上田)じゃあ次ね→

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｢堀内コーチvs金森選手｣と｡

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(長嶋)これもいたんだよね俺｡
(上田)この時も？

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{\an8}(長嶋)いやいやそんなことない｡

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{\an8}>>ちょっと…｡

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{\an8}(福田)プライベートで？
(元木)東京ドームの｡

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(有田)何で…？
>>それが分かんないんです｡

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{\an8}(上田)…みたいなことで？
(元木)いやいや…｡

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{\an8}(元木)
それがあって金森さんも…｡

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{\an8}(有田)
それがあるから来るだろう…｡

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{\an8}(有田)ウソ!?
>>多分堀内さんも…｡

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{\an8}…とか言ったと思うんですよ｡
(原田)その時に｡

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{\an8}ピッチャー橋本さんなんです｡

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{\an8}…の先輩後輩なんですよ
橋本さんも→

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{\an8}当てちゃいけないと思って…｡

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{\an8}金森さんが…｡

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{\an8}堀内さんが…｡

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{\an8}ウソ!?

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{\an8}(上田)見てみましょうか映像｡

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⟨元木
一茂も出場したこの試合⟩

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⟨ﾋﾟｯﾁｬｰ橋本が
ﾊﾞｯﾀｰ金森に投げた１球が…⟩

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{\an8}(実況)おっと…｡

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{\an8}(槙原)これは怒るわ｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)でも橋本当てれないよね｡

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{\an8}(福田)謝ってる謝ってる｡

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{\an8}(原田)
｢まぁまぁ…｣って言ってる！

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{\an8}(長嶋)いやいくと思ってないんだよ｡

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{\an8}⟨金森が堀内コーチの顔を…⟩

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(槙原)すごかったよこれ｡

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{\an8}(実況)そして…｡

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{\an8}⟨すると松井が…⟩

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{\an8}(槙原)メガネ拾うのよハハハ…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)松井が主力だから…｡

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{\an8}⟨ボロボロになった…⟩

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{\an8}⟨…を拾い⟩

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{\an8}⟨なぜか元木にパス⟩

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{\an8}(実況)これでは
堀内コーチが収まりません｡

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{\an8}⟨受け取ったものの…⟩

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{\an8}⟨…でした⟩

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{\an8}(上田)へぇー確かに金森さんも…｡

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{\an8}(元木)待ってましたよね｡
(長嶋)俺もサード守ってて行ったら→

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この時の中の
映像入ってないんだけど｡

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{\an8}ホリさんが
グーで金森さんのこと…｡

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{\an8}(一同)えー!?
(長嶋)でも…｡

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{\an8}そんなにちゃんと…｡

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{\an8}ホリさんが…｡

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{\an8}…ってその目の前で見てて｡

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{\an8}かわいいパンチだったから｡

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{\an8}(上田)元木さん松井さんから…｡

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{\an8}>>何で俺に渡すんだよ！
って思わなかった？

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{\an8}踏みつけられて粉々に
なってるんすよ割れてんすよ｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)松井君が…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)何で元木かっていうと→

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{\an8}元木は松井君が…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)松井君が…｡

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{\an8}俺昔大介に…｡

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{\an8}…したことあるよな｡
>>白い手袋…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)運転手だから
大介の方が先輩なんだけど…｡

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{\an8}多分松井…｡

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{\an8}(徳井)そんなことあります？

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{\an8}(長嶋)それが…｡

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{\an8}>>何で俺なんだよ！とも
言ってなかったですもんね｡

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{\an8}普通に…｡

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(上田)いや運転手さん…
乗っけてあげてたんでしょ？

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{\an8}>>でも…｡

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{\an8}(福田)それは普通横でしょ！
(元木)だから試合終わっても→

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{\an8}中畑さんとか
当時バッティングコーチ｡

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{\an8}中畑さんの家で松井が
バット振ってるんですけど→

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{\an8}僕ずーっと…｡

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{\an8}(笑い)
(上田)あなたも振りなさい｡

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>>いやだから…｡

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え!?
>>終わった瞬間に…｡

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(笑い)

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(上田)じゃあ隣のページいきますか｡

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｢星野監督激怒！
選手をビンタ！｣と｡

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{\an8}(槙原)今思ってもちょっと…
皆さん見てほしいんだけど｡

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{\an8}これで…｡

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{\an8}って僕は自分で…｡

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(拍手)

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{\an8}(槙原)水野も…｡

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{\an8}…と思ったんすけど｡

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{\an8}(上田)これ敵チームからしても…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)やっぱ怖いっすよね｡

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{\an8}(上田)何が聞こえるんですか？

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{\an8}>>…っていう声が
もろ聞こえるんですよ｡

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{\an8}…っていうんで｡

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{\an8}(元木)多分…｡

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{\an8}えぇ!?

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{\an8}(長嶋)この間ねクロマティの…｡

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{\an8}宮下さん｡

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{\an8}久しぶりに｡

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あの時も
｢いけ！｣っていう命令ですよ｡

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{\an8}ぶつけて
クロマティに怒られるのと→

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{\an8}ぶつけないで
星野さんに怒られる→

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{\an8}どっちがいいかな？って…｡

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{\an8}>>そんな状況なの!?

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{\an8}⟨…を選んだシーンがこちら⟩

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{\an8}⟨巨人リードの７回⟩

154
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{\an8}⟨ライバルチームの主砲
クロマティを威嚇するため→

155
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{\an8}ベンチから
デッドボールの指示が⟩

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{\an8}(実況)
このところのクロマティです｡

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{\an8}⟨伝説のクロマティ…⟩

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{\an8}⟨両軍入り乱れる…⟩

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{\an8}(長嶋)クロマティに…｡

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{\an8}>>…っていう選択だったんだ｡

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{\an8}クロマティに
ボコッ！て殴られながら…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)ホントそう｡

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00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:05,872
{\an8}(元木)
戦闘ﾓｰﾄﾞ入って中日のｺｰﾁ陣も…｡

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{\an8}普通サードコーチやって…｡

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{\an8}(槙原)ゴムだよね｡
(元木)ゴムなんですよ｡

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{\an8}この人…｡

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00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:21,455
{\an8}…みたいな｡
(福田)そこで予感が｡

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{\an8}金具で!?

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{\an8}(長嶋)…で多分
そういう話するんでしょうね｡

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{\an8}(有田)
ﾐｰﾃｨﾝｸﾞでそういう話になる…？ (長嶋)分かんないけど｡

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{\an8}｢金具でお願いします｣は…｡

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{\an8}でもホントに今のまんまだと→

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星野さんすっげぇ
極悪人になっちゃってるんで｡

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{\an8}でも…｡

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{\an8}…とかもすごくて｡

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{\an8}(上田)星野さんは…｡

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{\an8}…らしいですよね｡

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{\an8}そうすると奥さんが…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)…でも当然あったし｡

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{\an8}でも…｡

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{\an8}…方だと僕は思いますよ｡

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{\an8}>>僕実際…｡

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00:11:09,936 --> 00:11:11,438
{\an8}…っつったら｡

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{\an8}(有田)だったら…｡

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どこで１点入れたら終わり…？
ずっと見るんじゃないですか？

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{\an8}面白くないですか？って言ったら
だったらお前…｡

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{\an8}(長嶋)いやそんなことないけど｡

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{\an8}(槙原)危ないと…｡

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{\an8}が多くて
トップの選手たちが…｡

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{\an8}(槙原)とか見ちゃったらさそいつの…｡

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{\an8}(有田)そういうのも!?

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{\an8}(槙原)でも僕らの頃って…｡

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00:12:01,421 --> 00:12:03,423
{\an8}…っていう教育なんで｡

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00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:09,930
{\an8}(槙原)…っていうぐらいの気持ち｡
(有田)｢こっちもいるから｣｡

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00:12:10,931 --> 00:12:12,866
(原田)マジで？
(福田)そらそうやけど｡

196
00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:26,012
{\an8}(上田)…からでしょ？

197
00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:31,017
{\an8}(槙原)広島とかで…｡

198
00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,956
{\an8}そこまで完全に…｡

199
00:12:37,958 --> 00:12:40,393
{\an8}(笑い)
(福田)効いてるやんヤジ｡

200
00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:41,962
{\an8}(上田)じゃあ…｡

201
00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:45,465
{\an8}(原田)本当のこと言って！

202
00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:52,405
(槙原)やってないやってない…｡
(上田)一応これもいっときますか｡

203
00:12:52,472 --> 00:12:54,975
｢超危険タックル令和にはない｣｡

204
00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:58,478
{\an8}(上田)これがちゃんとルールで
認められてたっていうのも…｡

205
00:12:58,545 --> 00:13:00,480
{\an8}(有田)これが…｡

206
00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:03,049
{\an8}(長嶋)昔はキャッチャーが…｡

207
00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:11,424
{\an8}>>だから
吹っ飛ばすしかないわけですね？

208
00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,426
{\an8}(長嶋)…みたいなのがあったんだけど｡

209
00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:15,929
{\an8}(笑い)

210
00:13:16,496 --> 00:13:19,933
(長嶋)やってたやってた｡
(上田)じゃあ次のページいきますか｡

211
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,435
{\an8}出た｢10.８決戦｣｡

212
00:13:22,502 --> 00:13:25,005
{\an8}｢視聴率48.８％｣｡

213
00:13:26,506 --> 00:13:29,442
{\an8}(槙原)はい｡
(上田)あれ超緊張しません？

214
00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:31,011
{\an8}(槙原)でも…｡

215
00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:35,015
{\an8}(上田)そんなことはないっすよ
覚えてますよ｡

216
00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:40,453
{\an8}長嶋監督が…｡

217
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,522
{\an8}(槙原)僕が呼ばれて｡

218
00:13:46,026 --> 00:13:48,028
{\an8}(槙原)｢この２人しか使わない｣と｡

219
00:13:49,529 --> 00:13:52,032
{\an8}あとは最後に…｡

220
00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:55,969
{\an8}って言ってくれてすごく…｡

221
00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:58,038
{\an8}…を持って寝た｡

222
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,543
{\an8}(上田)もうちょい長嶋さんも
投げてほしかったでしょうね｡

223
00:14:08,982 --> 00:14:10,917
{\an8}(上田)これはホント…｡

224
00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:13,420
{\an8}>>伝説よこれは｡

225
00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:15,989
{\an8}(長嶋)まだ僕覚えてるんですけど…｡

226
00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:19,993
{\an8}高校甲子園決めたり
何かあって…｡

227
00:14:23,496 --> 00:14:29,436
{\an8}と思ったのが何かブワーッと
泣いたのを覚えてますね｡

228
00:14:29,502 --> 00:14:31,504
{\an8}俺は…｡

229
00:14:41,514 --> 00:14:43,450
{\an8}(長嶋)…したいなと思って｡

230
00:14:43,516 --> 00:14:45,518
{\an8}(笑い)

231
00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:49,022
{\an8}(長嶋)僕実は…｡

232
00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:54,027
{\an8}(長嶋)…を起こしてたんですよ｡

233
00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:57,530
{\an8}僕中畑さんに…｡

234
00:15:00,033 --> 00:15:02,535
{\an8}でもそしたら中畑さんが…｡

235
00:15:08,041 --> 00:15:10,043
{\an8}(長嶋)だって言ったら…｡

236
00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:19,986
{\an8}(笑い)

237
00:15:20,053 --> 00:15:22,055
{\an8}どうせだったら…｡

238
00:15:25,058 --> 00:15:28,995
{\an8}(笑い)

239
00:15:29,062 --> 00:15:30,497
{\an8}(上田)じゃあ次ね｡

240
00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:32,932
{\an8}｢13連勝を止めた！
伝説のエラー｣｡

241
00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:34,934
ちょっとこれいってみますか｡
(長嶋)これ俺なの？

242
00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,504
(上田)ええそうですよ
覚えてないですか？

243
00:15:41,007 --> 00:15:42,942
{\an8}(長嶋)この時｡
(上田)でしょうね｡

244
00:15:43,009 --> 00:15:45,945
{\an8}何にも覚えてないですか？
>>見たい見たい｡

245
00:15:46,012 --> 00:15:47,514
{\an8}(上田)ちょっと見てみようか｡

246
00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,455
{\an8}⟨当時…⟩

247
00:15:55,522 --> 00:15:59,025
{\an8}⟨…を打ち立て
絶好調のヤクルト⟩

248
00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:04,030
{\an8}⟨さらに一茂も⟩

249
00:16:06,032 --> 00:16:09,536
{\an8}(実況)５回川相のバント
ダイビングキャッチ！

250
00:16:11,037 --> 00:16:14,541
{\an8}⟨しかし13連勝目前の９回⟩

251
00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:28,488
⟨さらに⟩

252
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,926
{\an8}(実況)サードへダブルプレーで
ゲームセットと→

253
00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,929
{\an8}思ったんですがサードの長嶋…｡

254
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:37,931
{\an8}(実況)サードへダブルプレーで
ゲームセットと→

255
00:16:37,998 --> 00:16:40,433
{\an8}思ったんですがサードの長嶋…｡

256
00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,435
⟨一茂…⟩

257
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,003
⟨で…⟩

258
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,511
⟨その後⟩

259
00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:01,020
{\an8}⟨このエラーがきっかけで
巨人に…⟩

260
00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:06,960
{\an8}(笑い)

261
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:10,463
{\an8}(長嶋)言い訳もね
考えたんですけども…｡

262
00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:12,465
{\an8}(笑い)

263
00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:14,467
{\an8}(上田)最初ね古田さんと｡

264
00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:16,469
{\an8}あれはまぁまぁまだちょっと→

265
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:18,471
{\an8}しょうがないような感じもね｡

266
00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,974
>>でも長嶋さんが声出さなアカン
パターンでしょ？

267
00:17:22,976 --> 00:17:25,412
{\an8}(長嶋)そうだよ｡
>>多分古田さんは…｡

268
00:17:25,478 --> 00:17:27,414
{\an8}(笑い)

269
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,416
(上田)だから捕りに行って｡

270
00:17:29,482 --> 00:17:31,484
>>で客観的にみんなは…｡

271
00:17:33,987 --> 00:17:35,922
{\an8}(元木)…って思ってるんじゃ
ないかなと思って｡

272
00:17:35,989 --> 00:17:37,924
{\an8}(上田)なるほどええええ｡

273
00:17:37,991 --> 00:17:40,493
{\an8}その後のサードゴロに関しては
いかがですか？

274
00:17:43,496 --> 00:17:45,932
{\an8}(笑い)

275
00:17:45,999 --> 00:17:48,001
だってあんなエラー
しないでしょ日頃は｡

276
00:17:54,507 --> 00:17:56,509
{\an8}(長嶋)…っていう雰囲気｡

277
00:17:58,011 --> 00:18:01,014
{\an8}(笑い)
(福田)サードなのに！ホンマは｡

278
00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:09,522
{\an8}(上田)ちょっともう一回見てみよう｡
(長嶋)いやいやあの雰囲気が…！

279
00:18:12,025 --> 00:18:13,960
{\an8}また走馬灯のように！

280
00:18:14,027 --> 00:18:16,029
{\an8}(実況)ダイビングキャッチ！

281
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,466
(長嶋)でも今古田来てたね！

282
00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:21,968
(笑い)
ここでも！

283
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,917
{\an8}(実況)サードへダブルプレーで
ゲームセットと→

284
00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:40,420
{\an8}思ったんですがサードの長嶋…｡

285
00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:42,422
{\an8}(実況)サードへダブルプレーで
ゲームセットと→

286
00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:44,991
{\an8}思ったんですがサードの長嶋…｡

287
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,430
(有田)最初の
古田さんのあれで→

288
00:18:50,497 --> 00:18:52,499
俺信用されてねえの？みたいに
なっちゃったってことですね｡

289
00:18:54,501 --> 00:18:57,437
{\an8}(笑い)

290
00:18:57,504 --> 00:18:59,005
{\an8}(上田)ちなみに…｡

291
00:19:02,008 --> 00:19:03,943
{\an8}(上田)１イニングで!?

292
00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:06,446
{\an8}(長嶋)しかもね１球も…｡

293
00:19:06,513 --> 00:19:09,015
{\an8}(有田)それ何でですか？
(長嶋)ず～っと…｡

294
00:19:11,017 --> 00:19:15,021
{\an8}(笑い)

295
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:26,533
{\an8}(笑い)

296
00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:34,040
{\an8}(有田)アハハ…！

297
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:44,417
{\an8}⟨そして…⟩

298
00:19:44,484 --> 00:19:47,487
{\an8}(実況)続く４回の守りでは
こんなプレーが飛び出しました｡

299
00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:54,994
{\an8}(福田)いじられてるやん｡
(長嶋)いやいや実況はいい｡

300
00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:09,943
{\an8}(笑い)

301
00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:12,011
{\an8}(上田)あんまり…｡

302
00:20:14,013 --> 00:20:16,015
{\an8}何で一茂さん…｡

303
00:20:18,952 --> 00:20:21,888
{\an8}こん時もかい！
(福田)酔ってた？まだ｡

304
00:20:21,955 --> 00:20:23,389
(上田)次槙原さんのね｡

305
00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:25,391
ありましたね
このオールスターで→

306
00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:27,460
ユニフォーム忘れたっていうのは｡

307
00:20:29,462 --> 00:20:31,965
{\an8}(槙原)ＧＩＡＮＴＳって
書いてあるところは…｡

308
00:20:34,968 --> 00:20:37,403
{\an8}(笑い)

309
00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:39,472
(上田)そもそも何で
お忘れになったんですか？

310
00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:43,409
{\an8}(槙原)してたんでオールスター
でもう僕…｡

311
00:20:43,476 --> 00:20:45,478
{\an8}そしたらね…｡

312
00:20:50,483 --> 00:20:52,418
{\an8}(槙原)…から行ってくれつって｡

313
00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:53,987
{\an8}行ったら…｡

314
00:20:57,056 --> 00:21:00,059
(上田)なるほどねちなみに
一茂さんから見て…｡

315
00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:04,063
{\an8}(長嶋)…っていわれたじゃないですか｡

316
00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:09,068
{\an8}(長嶋)でもホントに…｡

317
00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:14,073
{\an8}じゃないかなって
勝手に思ってるのが槙さん…｡

318
00:21:16,576 --> 00:21:18,011
{\an8}(槙原)指が見えないんですよ｡

319
00:21:18,077 --> 00:21:20,013
{\an8}(長嶋)キャッチャーって
この辺でサイン出すんですよ｡

320
00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:22,515
{\an8}ピッチャーの前で
これ見えないんですよ槙さん｡

321
00:21:22,582 --> 00:21:24,517
そうすると槙さん
どういうサインかっていうと→

322
00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:27,020
こことこことこことここの
サインになるんですよ｡

323
00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:30,089
でそれをみんな知ってるんで
他チームは｡

324
00:21:35,028 --> 00:21:36,529
{\an8}(長嶋)槙さんって…｡

325
00:21:38,031 --> 00:21:40,466
{\an8}(一同)えぇ～！
>>そうやったんすか？

326
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,535
{\an8}(長嶋)ぐらいなのにも…｡

327
00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:44,971
{\an8}さっき言ったみたいに→

328
00:21:45,038 --> 00:21:48,041
{\an8}ここ１ここ２ここ３ここ４
とかってやると…｡

329
00:21:51,044 --> 00:21:52,979
{\an8}(長嶋)…っていうので
やってたんですよ｡

330
00:21:53,046 --> 00:21:55,548
{\an8}だから槙さん
こうやって見てるんだけど｡

331
00:21:58,551 --> 00:22:00,486
{\an8}(笑い)

332
00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:01,988
{\an8}(長嶋)あと…｡

333
00:22:02,055 --> 00:22:04,557
{\an8}(笑い)

334
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,995
{\an8}(笑い)

335
00:22:09,062 --> 00:22:11,564
{\an8}(堀内)一茂さん
欲しがっちゃってるから｡

336
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,502
{\an8}大介が…｡

337
00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:19,005
{\an8}今でも覚えてる｡

338
00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:24,377
{\an8}で球も走ってたし
これ完璧に抑えられるなと思って｡

339
00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:26,946
大介ス～っと寄ってきて
グローブで隠しながら…｡

340
00:22:28,448 --> 00:22:30,883
{\an8}…って言ってきたんですよ｡

341
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:32,885
{\an8}(上田)この後どうする的な｡

342
00:22:32,952 --> 00:22:34,387
{\an8}(槙原)で俺…｡

343
00:22:34,454 --> 00:22:37,957
{\an8}普通だったらでも僕ももう
気抜けたんでしょうね｡

344
00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:41,961
{\an8}って言ったんですよ
そしたらその後に…｡

345
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:45,465
{\an8}大介も話しかけてくるなって
いうことはありましたね｡

346
00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:47,533
{\an8}これ実話だよね？
>>はい｡

347
00:22:49,035 --> 00:22:51,971
{\an8}(上田)行ったんかい！
(有田)行ったの!?

348
00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:53,973
(上田)じゃあ元木さん
いってみますかね｡

349
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:55,908
｢伝説の隠し球職人｣と｡

350
00:22:55,975 --> 00:22:58,478
{\an8}まぁ確かに元木さん…｡

351
00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:03,916
{\an8}>>そうですねそれで…｡

352
00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:06,486
{\an8}…のかなっていうのも
ありますね｡

353
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:14,427
⟨隠し球が行われた
実際の映像がこちら⟩

354
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:19,365
⟨こちらの選手に注目⟩

355
00:23:19,432 --> 00:23:22,935
⟨ヒットで出たランナーに
気付かれないよう…⟩

356
00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,875
⟨ピッチャーがボールを
持っていると思っている→

357
00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:31,944
ランナーが
ベースを離れた瞬間⟩

358
00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:38,518
{\an8}(一同)えぇ～！
(福田)高校野球で？

359
00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:46,959
{\an8}で高校時代やって…｡

360
00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:52,398
{\an8}高知県から…｡

361
00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:55,401
{\an8}(笑い)

362
00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:57,470
{\an8}そう正々堂々しろよって｡

363
00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:07,480
{\an8}(笑い)

364
00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:15,988
{\an8}(長嶋)何でかっていうと
そのボールはまず…｡

365
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:20,493
{\an8}そういうものも…｡

366
00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:24,997
{\an8}(徳井)あれ何で
いけるって思えるんすか？

367
00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,456
{\an8}あともうちょっと
頑張ってくれれば→

368
00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:52,458
{\an8}出るぞってなった瞬間に
振り向いて…｡

369
00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,961
{\an8}(笑い)

370
00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:58,030
{\an8}⟨実際の映像をあの…⟩

371
00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:04,904
{\an8}(上田)これ｢流血投球の真実｣と｡

372
00:25:04,971 --> 00:25:07,473
{\an8}これは槙原さん何ですか？
(槙原)あっ俺か｡

373
00:25:08,474 --> 00:25:10,476
{\an8}…と思ってたんですけど｡

374
00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:17,984
>>うわっすごい！

375
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:36,936
{\an8}(上田)これ｢流血投球の真実｣と｡

376
00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:38,938
{\an8}これは槙原さん何ですか？
(槙原)あっ俺か｡

377
00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:42,008
{\an8}野球やめても…｡

378
00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:46,379
{\an8}どうしても何か…｡

379
00:25:46,445 --> 00:25:48,447
{\an8}部屋帰ってて｡

380
00:25:50,449 --> 00:25:52,385
{\an8}…なんて思ってて｡

381
00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:54,954
{\an8}花火火付けたら
プシュって出て…｡

382
00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:01,394
{\an8}(槙原)とにかく冷やして試合行って→

383
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,463
{\an8}痛いけど何とか投げてたら…｡

384
00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:20,913
{\an8}(笑い)

385
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,982
{\an8}実際ワンちゃんは…｡

386
00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:26,919
{\an8}(有田)当たっちゃったからね
自分に｡

387
00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,487
もう…｡

388
00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:35,995
{\an8}⟨この日の…⟩

389
00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:40,499
{\an8}(実況)初回です｡

390
00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:45,371
(実況)空振り！

391
00:26:45,438 --> 00:26:46,939
{\an8}⟨ここまで…⟩

392
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:58,951
{\an8}⟨ユニフォームに
血が付くほどの…⟩

393
00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:08,894
⟨変化球の…⟩

394
00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:10,963
⟨…を築く⟩

395
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,468
⟨そして⟩

396
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,484
(有田)カッコいいすごい｡

397
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:36,489
{\an8}(槙原)痛いです痛いけど
興奮してるんでいいんですけど…｡

398
00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:45,931
{\an8}(上田)試合後取材とかも
来るじゃないですか｡

399
00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:49,368
{\an8}(槙原)僕は…｡

400
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:51,937
{\an8}(上田)あっ一回もできたことない？
(槙原)ないんですよ｡

401
00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:58,878
{\an8}(笑い)

402
00:27:58,944 --> 00:28:00,880
{\an8}(有田)次…｡

403
00:28:00,946 --> 00:28:02,882
{\an8}(長嶋)いやいやもういいっす
いいっすいいっす｡

404
00:28:02,948 --> 00:28:04,450
{\an8}ホントにいいです｡

405
00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:10,956
{\an8}(長嶋)あぁそうですね｡

406
00:28:15,461 --> 00:28:18,898
{\an8}(長嶋)こないだ記者会見やっただろうが｡
(上田)一茂さんはね｡

407
00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:21,400
{\an8}(堀内)出る？出るんでしょ？

408
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,969
{\an8}(笑い)
(有田)出ない!?

409
00:28:26,472 --> 00:28:28,407
{\an8}(長嶋)いやいやもういいっす
いいっすいいっす｡

410
00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:30,409
ホントにいいです｡
>>＼｢何様事件｣／

411
00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:32,478
(長嶋)もうおなかいっぱいです｡
(有田)｢何様事件｣｡

412
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:36,916
{\an8}(上田)何ですか？一茂さん｡

413
00:28:36,982 --> 00:28:39,418
{\an8}(長嶋)またあの…
ネガティブな話になるんですけど｡

414
00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:41,420
{\an8}(上田)いいっすよいいっすよ｡
(長嶋)僕がね…｡

415
00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:43,489
{\an8}前日ぐらいに｡

416
00:28:45,991 --> 00:28:48,994
{\an8}バント失敗したのは
もちろん僕だけなんですよ｡

417
00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:52,998
{\an8}当時土井コーチという僕の…｡

418
00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:58,504
{\an8}(長嶋)…というところから始まりまして｡

419
00:29:01,006 --> 00:29:02,942
ランニングとか柔軟体操とか
キャッチボール｡

420
00:29:03,008 --> 00:29:04,944
トスバッティング
バッティングとかって→

421
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:07,012
{\an8}全部一緒なんですけども｡

422
00:29:19,525 --> 00:29:21,527
{\an8}(長嶋)こう言われまして｡

423
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:25,030
{\an8}で大体…｡

424
00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:31,971
{\an8}(長嶋)もう何時間もずっと…｡

425
00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:36,909
{\an8}ボール入れて
またバントしてってことを→

426
00:29:36,976 --> 00:29:38,911
{\an8}ず～っとやって｡

427
00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:40,980
{\an8}土井さんいるかなと思ったら｡

428
00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:48,420
{\an8}(長嶋)…みたいな感じの
声も聞こえながら｡

429
00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:50,422
{\an8}やっとそこで土井さんが→

430
00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:52,992
{\an8}俺がバントやらされてんの
気付いたんでしょうね｡

431
00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:57,496
{\an8}終わったんですけども…｡

432
00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,940
{\an8}>>槙さん出てきた｡
＼登場しました／

433
00:30:08,007 --> 00:30:10,442
{\an8}(長嶋)槙さんが俺がずっと
バントさせられてんの→

434
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:13,512
{\an8}知ってるんすよこの人｡
(槙原)ずっと見てたからね｡

435
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:19,018
{\an8}(長嶋)みたいな感じで…｡

436
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,455
{\an8}この人が！

437
00:30:23,522 --> 00:30:26,892
この人は笑ってるわけ
俺がいじめられて面白いから｡

438
00:30:26,959 --> 00:30:29,962
{\an8}で俺はホントに頭きてるわけ｡

439
00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:34,900
{\an8}そこで俺が
この人は笑ってるから…｡

440
00:30:34,967 --> 00:30:37,469
{\an8}土井さんに対して｡

441
00:30:38,971 --> 00:30:41,407
{\an8}…っつって
ブチ切れちゃったんですよ｡

442
00:30:41,473 --> 00:30:43,409
{\an8}そしたらそれを全部｡

443
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,411
(笑い)
(有田)みんな見てた｡

444
00:30:45,477 --> 00:30:46,979
(徳井)最悪やん｡

445
00:30:48,981 --> 00:30:50,916
{\an8}(笑い)
(槙原)そうだな｡

446
00:30:50,983 --> 00:30:54,486
{\an8}(長嶋)あなたとの仲関係性で…｡

447
00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:57,990
{\an8}槙さんは…｡

448
00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:02,428
{\an8}って思ったら…｡

449
00:31:02,494 --> 00:31:05,431
{\an8}(笑い)
(原田)でどうしたの？

450
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:06,932
{\an8}(槙原)これもう…｡

451
00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:08,934
{\an8}…なって思っちゃったわけよ｡

452
00:31:09,001 --> 00:31:10,936
{\an8}でももうエキサイト
止まんないから→

453
00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:12,938
言いたいことだけ言って
バカ野郎！つって→

454
00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:16,442
バ～ン！って荷物を置いて
そのまま帰ってったの｡

455
00:31:16,508 --> 00:31:18,010
{\an8}そしたら…｡

456
00:31:20,012 --> 00:31:22,014
{\an8}だからちょっと…｡

457
00:31:25,517 --> 00:31:27,886
{\an8}(堀内)カッコいい！

458
00:31:27,953 --> 00:31:29,889
{\an8}(槙原)したらみんなが…｡

459
00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:33,392
{\an8}(笑い)

460
00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:35,894
{\an8}(槙原)返事しないから…｡

461
00:31:35,961 --> 00:31:38,464
{\an8}…っつって帰ったんですよ｡

462
00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:41,900
{\an8}(笑い)

463
00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:43,902
{\an8}(長嶋)ホントにね！

464
00:31:43,969 --> 00:31:46,905
(笑い)
(堀内)全然きかないじゃん！

465
00:31:46,972 --> 00:31:48,407
(上田)完全に一面で！

466
00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:50,409
(原田)
ホントに言った？槙さん｡ (槙原)ホントにホントに｡

467
00:31:50,476 --> 00:31:52,411
{\an8}これでも一発…｡

468
00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:54,480
{\an8}>>そうです｡

469
00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:06,425
{\an8}(一同)えぇ～｡
(長嶋)何が言いたいかっていうと…｡

470
00:32:06,492 --> 00:32:07,926
{\an8}(笑い)

471
00:32:07,993 --> 00:32:09,928
{\an8}(上田)一茂さんが言うからでしょ！
(長嶋)いやいやいや！

472
00:32:09,995 --> 00:32:12,431
{\an8}この人がいけないよね？
(槙原)でもねカズはやっぱり→

473
00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,000
{\an8}ストレスたまってたから
ガス抜きのつもりで…｡

474
00:32:16,502 --> 00:32:18,504
{\an8}(長嶋)インタビュー形式じゃないだろ！

475
00:32:20,005 --> 00:32:21,440
{\an8}それがいらねえんだよ！

476
00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:24,009
{\an8}何だインタビュー形式って！