the coffee break it is April 4th 2020 how's everybody doing ocular yeah there's sarcasm there it's a lot of pain here I was cleaning out the garage my back went into spasm so I'm into my chair hunched over with half the garage out on the dresser oh my gosh sorry man you gotta be careful dude really hard to seek medical help right now well they knock they couldn't help you anyway no all I did was I was just I was fixing the old snowblower I just kneeled on my knee pad and started taking out the bolts and crumble I I did really well with the move this time I cramped up a couple times but I did pretty good but there was once one summer when we were at our cottage and everything was great and we packed up at the end of the trip and then I grabbed the big heavy garbage bag and was carrying it out to the van and that on our way like the last minute of the last day is when I hold my back so I drove home like this I feel your pain it's the worst I don't see bp9 yet today but I I did pull out my phantom of the opera' mug this is the legit like colour changing the original the og gas station park ups because I'm at the computer so it has always only their lead so if it turns over it's it doesn't float over everything happens but the trick is contagious what's that I just plain old glass don't spill man don't spill the I saw you say that smoking phantom of the opera' at the Pantages Theatre in Toronto when I was in grade six that was when I think my love for Broadway began so good afternoon - I see Marsh man's soul do and Peter joining us for our coffee break today and we'll see if anyone else trickles in as well it's the weekend with guys we made it happen to get another week yeah I don't want to always I joke from the early seasons that you know we don't ever talk about the weather here but last weekend was pouring rain and then we had blue sunny skies all week which was kind of refreshing but I only got to see it on my way to and from work as I sitting at my desk all day and then come Friday afternoon I'm planning to barbecue and sure enough 3 o'clock in the afternoon it starts pouring rain so being home from work I just lose track of the same Murphy's Law earlier this week darah said it's Wednesday I said no it's not it's Tuesday she says no I checked I thought it was Monday it's actually Wednesday and I looked at my down there and yeah I think being that I do still have to go to work every day every weekday it still gives me that sense of normalcy so I'm still kind of I've still got the same routine basically so mmm it's not the same but at least I'm not losing track of the days anyways but boy oh boy I'll tell you what I was looking forward to the weekend this week twenty years ago I was attending a year after and at the Bible School and one day I woke up and I was late I was two hours late so I hurried up and ate a little something and I went to the school and then it was closed oh it's Saturday today one of those weeks yeah are you okay bill yeah you need me to call Tara and tell her to come and give you a back rub no no she's given me enough medicine take take the edge so payback I spun up a Windows Server 2019 VM this morning yes now I'm a nag that just works on so many levels [Laughter] yeah but III need to look at it for this project coming up so I need to familiarize myself with 2019 so oh yeah I'm on the on the opposite side building Nan's Linux building nameless version 1.6 we've just upgraded to bullseye cuz they've locked they feature locked Debbie and 11 so we're gonna very very soon see disk bros transitioning to bullseye will be among the first as usual so I guess I'll have to start doing my SPC build base from bullseye as well so more better testing more better testing I'm here Oh bill I feel like you need to recline something I all know I tried to in it oh my goodness that hurt it hurt more reclining so I actually just leaned back it's a little bit better so I'm getting there okay all right quiet coffee break maybe we should just like we can all just take a deep breath yes I had an hour ago I was outside on there for a whole hour I was shearling snow and now it's snowing again and it's blowing so it's good well no thank you yeah we're done yeah I was already done with snow yeah and I have some good news I had some work done in my bathroom because of water damage did a new year again and yesterday they were finished the last five weeks the delivery time it was it was the wall in last block if you know what oh so much good get that done working bathroom is always a good thing yeah yeah here yeah here Terry oh the government has shut down construction so that's gonna affect the show but it's also like I mean every poor contractor who's not allowed to work right now so as of midnight tonight yeah appreciate for were there lots of construction work and I had those schedules to have something to do so do I seem laggy today yeah yeah I think having the kids home and me being on the same network like there I've got one playing roblox they've got one playing Nintendo switch I got another one watching videos on her phone and it's Murphy's Law when daddy's phone is connected to the Wi-Fi everyone else gets 50k yeah the worst part is is all the stuff was sitting outside in the driveway you've got to get it back in what's the is it nice out today it looks like Oh got some sunshine coming for hit rapes there it's beautiful it's beautiful it's warming up and it's sunny it's nice that's why I started I said that's good a good day oh yes it's it's getting warmer here but we still got kind of cloudy skies and rain so I still have to get up on the roof of studio D to get that antenna down and I didn't feel safe doing that while it's while it's rainy it's a steel room so not a good idea yeah so I was saying Debian 11 is entering feature lock so my my Linux distro called names Lennox is is an official Debian derivative so I get like they email me when they're locking things and so you get kind of like a heads up when when they're getting ready for new transmissions so I got that email of few weeks ago but I was so busy with the move and everything else that was going on that I hadn't got a chance to to do anything yet so I did move my build base for the docker image of gnomes Linux too and I haven't uploaded this so you want to get this on docker hub but I moved it over to Debian 11 and then of course rebuilt on on that so if that's basically my base and like ever it just takes like like a boss there's no problem at all so cool is basically just upgrading you could probably even upgrade I didn't see any security updates repositories yet so you may have to disable those and your sources dot list but if you wanted to on a test system you could probably just go into your sources list file and change Buster to bullseye and you'll you'll do a apt upgrade and get the latest version of Debian looks like it's pretty rock-solid at this point our service is still up in eight so we have been during the last few months yeah definitely but we are still getting an official updates so urgent yet extensive ass yeah compared to previous like like Buster was positive forever it was sitting and testing for a long time yeah my concern with that approach solve it with using an older version is you're going to have older versions of things like TLS and SSL SSH I mean OpenSSH so that is a concern from a security standpoint so yes you're gonna get feature updates and things but you're still gonna have older versions of some some packages that are that have known exploits speaking TLS 10 years ago I think I discovered that I was doing a search sometimes looking for but I discovered a file that was there yeah they were looking for streaming applications that because we are explicitly abandoning those because we don't have the money to pay for it and I found our user having a short cost executable in this and I also discovered they had a suspicious looking theater ball that I am in investigated and it turned out it was a root exploit and when I googled the exploit it turned out that it didn't work because our kernel was too old oh no I was only testing to see if it worked and going back to other exploits that would instead have been in the news all week zoom I got it I received an email last night zoom the zoom app must be removed from corporate laptops oh come on you know they have to use it through the browser if necessary can't happy out all right now so your employer is listening to all the mmm the we'll call it news yeah I'm for lack of a better term yeah to be fair any of these security concerns that have arisen out of the sudden unbelievable use usage of zoom like imagine three four weeks ago they were just a handy tool that some people used right I have a lot use it yeah now we're everybody used everybody uses it now everybody we're all look everybody uses something so so of course we hear about these exploits to be fair they've already patched like they've changed the default settings so that it requires a password on your on your zoom meeting they've changed some of the security so that it addresses some of the issues like they're working on it we got to give them some slack you know I think if anything the better advice to removing it would be just make sure you got the latest version make sure you up-to-date and just don't use it for like government government should probably have their own hosted solution but for average show users and businesses you're not really using it for anything confidential really like that right you just be wise to the fact that you're using a free public service or even if you're using the pro version just gotta be mindful of that but there it is Prime Minister was really shouldn't well I don't know if what the meeting was was confidential or you know but obviously a government should have the resources in place to have their own hosted solution but but realistically I don't know we just got to put it into context I said tonight had that in our discord that what did I say I don't remember I mentioned that all of the video conferencing systems are really being put to the test and this is one of the outcomes of people starting to looking at what can we do supposed to do so a lot of testing and and circumventing are being tried to yeah yeah how can we exploit it yeah and I found it really funny that one of the one of the reviews that was posted that it was all negative and it was all just it was ridiculous like they were complaining about Oh people can record the session well how many of you right now see the little indicator that says recording on your screen yeah everybody sees it right so I mean that's not an issue we can't even raise that but in this video it was that they were standing at a desk and the desk had the LogMeIn logo printed on it something like I can't take this seriously for an instant like this is one of their competitors together please Joe you said the other day about yahwah in london right about you back on track with open mail so it really was the yelling from where bridge is gone and good he talked very well disappointment well I'm not it's all just about context like my my my daughter had singing lessons over zoom right so in the context of security and privacy it's like it's singing lessons we're not giving away world secrets here you know yeah keep it in context that's all speaking of singing am I just last night someone posted on Facebook and I don't know it to my ear and maybe 20 of the some of the worship singers in the Norway got together and made a version of the 100 already the hymns and it was a strange it was a very good song quality despite that they were most people were singing into things like this but a song called it was good yeah and everyone was standing enough there phone that was leaning at something and then yeah everyone was at home and that's cool virtual coin how can you get creative I think our first few episodes from of category 5 at studio here can end up being like socially distant episode it's very I don't have to do a very similar thing where my co-host can't come to the studio well you know or you're gonna be back to season one type I'm gonna do the best I can but we'll see what it looks like I'm just puttin just puttin the plans on that now because it looks like things are not going to be getting any better before the 22nd that's for sure so I gotta I gotta have a back-up plan so we will be broadcasting them bring back the gerbil cam yeah and I'd have to get a gerbil bail how to care for it nevermind forget that no new road and what do you think space what do you think we changed a space fish they get the black bag of the well we got about two more minutes guys yeah sometimes it's just nice to just relax and just hang out yeah someone wrote in an article about this situation that is going around the world and he said that it is if it almost looks like the good Lord is forcing everyone to rest a little bit so I think so is completely forgetting the economics socially inside families a little bit of this could be healthy when people are read it's all about perspective right yeah it's all perspective and so I hope that you know our viewers that your perspective is that that maybe you can do a soul who suggests which is take this as an opportunity to rest I think it is a time to be closer to your family if you can and if you can't if you're physically distant you use the technology that we're using today something like this we're just using zoom but whatever you can come up with to be able to communicate with your family and loved ones we're using it for our community so you can do this in a press conference three or four days ago the Easter it is coming and a lot of people are wanting to go visit their friends and family and the minister said that unnecessary travels must be avoided but going home for Easter is unnecessary so it could be a good thing so if people none of us can K sorry about hearing no I don't I don't have to use this kind of actually it's funny though because if I'm downstairs and she's in her room upstairs I don't call her I used this court she reports can you come down please tomorrow we do this every single day I was saying you know if you if you don't have somebody that you can hang out with right now in a socially distant way they'll learn to hate that term but you know what I mean we're here every single day twelve o'clock Eastern Time and the link to join our coffee break is right on our website category five TV so you can join us next time take care everybody nice to see you have a good day library