it's time for today's coffee break thanks for joining me I see Sabu on the top left and gwg on the bottom right well I don't see so you guys don't have cameras speaking of seeing you can kind of see that I've got more packing done here at Studio just thing to say hello I saw you hey we've got nine days left to the category five Kickstarter don't forget to go to cap five TV slash kick if you haven't checked it out yet see if it's something that you'd like to support I know it's a weird time right now for everybody not a great time to be asking people to contribute to something like this but hey we're community and category 5 is going to be on the air from our new studio we're moving in six days yeah I will repeat something there first launch kit so yesterday I paid all my bills for this so now I can there pitchin often thank you and I think I will be amusing the monomers I'm not going to create an account so maybe I will get a link or something to prove yeah if you do if you do the Kickstarter as a guest then you'll still I believe I imagine you still receive the perks like it it's still it still will email you and everything so and some people have asked about supporting the Kickstarter without going through Kickstarter and and I can certainly help with that if you want to contribute via PayPal or something like that just make sure you pop me an email or a DM or something and let me know who you are so that I can send you the perks manually because I'm happy to do that as well if you don't want to be on the Kickstarter platform well hey hi Bill are you doing good yourself a week that's a start I pulled the song away I fell asleep oh yes this is how we pass the time in quarantine this nap if I didn't have all this work to do exactly yeah all this work sitting back swinging a giant cup of coffee this is for one this is my coffee break I've been waiting all day for this I've been here packing all day long fortunately they still have apocalyptic sized coffees at Starbucks so that helps they're just doing the drive-through I guess they're still letting people come in for takeout but they're not letting people sit down but I just did the drive-through so a lot of places are doing that yeah I did hit the grocery store yesterday just briefly and I saw I think it was was it soul boo was that you that that was talking about the markers on the floor or was that bp9 bp9 good you know I haven't mentioned that yeah so they have those at the grocery store I don't think anyone was honoring them here but it's certainly unique yeah I got an email from Best Buy this morning saying that they will bring your stuff to the door that's interesting water it online and they'll bring it to the door yeah I had purolator deliver something to my work on Friday and they left it outside um so and FedEx is is saying no signatures required on anything now yeah they did that too they just drop stuff off with no signature right yeah Robert Robert shows up just to just to show off that he's in the sunny tropics somebody has to be it's cold here I was coming in though and there were spring songbirds outside my door which kind of up lifted my spirits a little bit yeah it got chilly here - supposed to get wet snow tomorrow yeah so what is everybody doing what's everybody doing the past time like you guys doing any projects sir well I've been cleaning mm-hmm well I was away for two months so I came back just time for a pandemic yay yeah welcome back you got back gwg so well we sent somebody after me my employer and about 48 hours after she got there they announced that they were not allowing people from Europe to enter the United States so even though that would not affect her because citizens were allowed in she was worried they would cancel all the flights so she ran back yeah so as of now my entire company is on something of a lockdown and they've given everybody a pay cut always fun yeah that's right for me well again I'll survive as long as it doesn't last incredibly long but yeah yeah I think so many people are in that boat and a lot of people have been laid off as well - enough me and they're saying here in the US what's that Robert okay is this on not very good let's try it was just a little quiet that's all okay yeah they're saying two and a half million applied last week here in the US free eye for unemployment yeah yeah I hope things go okay for me there's no really like we're in a services business I do the past two well the past week has been a lot of modifying people's websites is what I've been spending a lot of my time doing making pop-ups models that say whether or not they're still open during this and so I think as a services company I think we'll be okay it's just if they shut us down we'll be working from home and that poses some interesting challenges but at least we live in a time when the technology is there that we can we can do that yeah my problem is is if we prove that we can work remotely they'll dump it to another country oh you know which they already started you know our lot of our support staffs in Guatemala now Wow some of the stuff you don't even think of mm-hmm I ran it I ran a call I run a call center in the UK and we had similar issues everything was outsourced to India and after a few years they took most of it back unless it was somebody of the big guys like BT and so on but everybody else took it back because the service was really bad they cannot they cannot operate on the same level we do over here no no no we can't did I mention that they two months that I spent in Bulgaria involved setting up an office which included a call center no gwg oh my so well if you know the state of where they are at right now better off than we are the the other group that I set up back in 2018 who also has a call center component ISM the Philippines and they're on lockdown so yeah yeah Robbie if you yes bill I'm looking at that picture you got there it looks like you got the Dalek doing all the work now Jef jokingly said the you know once the Daleks show up we're in trouble so I thought I'll put it on camera yeah I've got a lot done guys like I'm really down to the nitty-gritty today I disconnected the server and pulled all the cables and everything and then reconnected it with just very very basic wiring just so that the everything can still be online but without it I could pack away all the surge protectors and things like that it looks neat get in there lots of work did you get the ladder and get that done I got the ladder but I you can see if you look at the the wide shot of the studio there you can see the wire hanging down from a wise can pan right that's in the middle of the room so I'm not going to do that as per your suggestion I'm not going to get up on the ladder until I've got someone here to spot me however the the stuff that's in corners or along the wall so like our surveillance cameras the CCTV I did I did put a ladder like just a stepstool and with the support of the wall I pulled all the CCTV down today but anything that's not safe for me to do without a spotter I left it as it is so I'll get I'll get those when I've got someone else here but yeah I'll probably pull down this drape here too within the next couple days that's just a couple of staples around the edge so I'll use a step stool for that but again I've got the wall there to protect me yes a ladder is an evil of engine some reason that I can't see my own video feed we can't see your own video feed either solder yeah it's dark there Robert what are what are you up to these days with all the lockdown and you're just enjoying I'm poised I'm I mean I'm i've Kryptos that's what I'm doing so so you're are you trading right now no I've never I never trade trade this I'm not a traitor trade is too dangerous I tried that in 2017 and I lost almost everything no I'm learning at the moment pison oh cool yeah as he sits in his shirtsleeves in the green tree area you know sorry about that yeah it's coming okay what about yourself sold me what are you been up to - to pass the time you're mentioning you're very fortunate to have gotten your house when you did yeah I don't think the housing market is I think it's what housing market appeared in a week I think this is and it's a long dream for me and I think that God would me and knowing that if I did them it would never happen so you have debated there coming somewhere I think I would like this house share cheaper but good above my own flat true true yeah you'd be stuck with both how's the house the market in in Toronto doing for example is that how's the outlook Robert I don't really keep track of it I don't watch it but and and I've been busy with this but I know Toronto was pretty much on lockdown like they've shut down all major services other than emergency services and that's kind of that's that I mean the housing market other prices going up or down or that's what I don't know I just can't imagine that anyone is buying or selling right now like a you wouldn't want to be holding an open house that's for sure yeah so I I can't imagine it's doing anything I I don't I don't have any facts to back that up it's just I know that things are pretty like they've pretty well dropped off here and Barry I wouldn't want to be looking for a house right now leave under view John and see if everything was not connected when I joined anything so okay that's okay I'm gonna do these coffee breaks I'm gonna try to do these each day you don't all have to show up every day I just want to be here for the community I want to set this up so that our community can join once per day through the course of the pandemic and and just be a bit of a respite from the media that we're we're all subjected to right now chance for us to just hang out and have a coffee so we can't do it in person mmm well someday I will I just want area yeah yeah same here well hey you'll all get to see studio E once once you come and see us that'll be a nice spot and in two hours I have a bit of a major problem to deal with oh yeah my parents have decided to come from Florida decided they're better off horn teaming at their residence in New York and staying and they can find space in Florida are they gonna let them come into New York yeah a plane I'll just put them under a mandatory lockdown kind of thing nope remember in New York can't stop anybody interstate travel is a federal problem for the government and they haven't stopped domestic travel right now yeah so I need a state say it's a bit different here in Canada because at the border they're stopping tourist travel I mean I'm sorry between provinces oh no between America and Canada yeah but remember Florida is also in America so it's only its domestic yes yeah for you now here in Canada if you were coming back from Florida you'd be put into a mandatory quarantine yeah there are plenty of people in their building from Ontario yeah and when is that happening a couple hours what the quarantine or the arrival of my parents the arrival at that twenty four thousand five hundred feet estimated twenty five minutes into the flight estimated two hours nine minutes remaining till arrival at LaGuardia Airport where I will come up with my mask in my gloves and transport them to their apartment which I have Lysol for them Wow so they they'll they'll beat the eight o'clock cutoff oh yes the governor proposed starting at 8:00 p.m. that non-essential travel so that's that pushed their decision and other than that I'm as of Friday where they made me go to the office I can't go to the office on Monday hmm I will be sitting at this exact same desk which you can see in this video there's my hello there your yeah oh yeah well my problem is that I never quite get the angle right it keeps falling my monitor is right about there so if I can either look at the camera or look at all of you and I thought it was more polite to look at all of you but either way in my industry everything shutting down what industry are you in transportation oh yeah I called the moving truck company that just reminded me I called the moving truck company just out of fear that we're not gonna be able to get our moving truck on Saturday and they said they're basically considered an essential service because a lot of stores are using their rental trucks for moving product hmm so so he has every confidence we're still gonna have a truck for the move hi bp9 welcome to the coffee break what would your current landlords say if you couldn't move the stuff because of the situation either you know I don't even want to think about that yeah I really don't want to think about that but you lied it was a very nice individual even if he's kicking you out in a short period of time I am a very nice individual and so the things that I imply are based on me being nice oh man I'll take it I'll take the patient yeah but I'm here they put a moratorium on eviction so you can't that makes sense it'd be really hard to be a landlord though yeah like if you're not making money and you still have to pay for people to be living in your flats let's be in that position well I'm 100 percent sure that my landlord will not evict me yeah namely because I'm picking my landlord up at the airport in two hours well parents retired to Florida they rented me the apartment below there so the reason I've been disinfecting is that they live on the floor above me oh that's great and they own the building so Wow wonderful not that big building they're only three apartments and if it's just a multi-family yeah well better when they went to Florida for the entire winter having somebody keep an eye on it and I don't compare to complain about shoe print yeah that's great good set up high BP nine yeah okay so you couldn't see me at least anyway right yeah I can yeah we can see in here yeah this time oh my oh wow I did fix and audio issues nice yeah what's going on today but the the camera is the camera light is so it's doing something maybe a different app has grabbed control of the camera that could happen Skype or so no one can make me a to you spike rather than using a Linux box are you using that I had the same problem I named it did resolve it I don't know what's going on so I ended up switching to my my phone yeah that's what I'm doing here is I'm using my phone just because it makes it so simple and then I can use the Bluetooth headset as well I don't know so that that makes it tough I don't know what are you bill what are you using right now I am on my road h2 running via wonderful sure because boom conference isn't looking for a cheap way to do it yeah that's cool I love that bill is using an SBC for it I've been using any Android based TV device but the even though the camera can hit is a Logitech which should have a higher resolution the things seems to downscale so I've been looking for an alternative or this is when I go to a conference and set up a room with something so people can remotely participate yeah that's cool so anybody ever has any suggestions zoom works well mm-hmm well no the zoom isn't the problem it's the hardware the hardware is what we've been using for since we gave up on hangouts due to its lack of future I switched to Skype and then I've since switched to zoom since Microsoft basically destroyed Skype well as of now I'm looking for how do I set up three inexpensive boxes that can be part of a zoom room except the logitech camera and require very little in terms of controls once it's set up because the people in the room want to use the entire screen to see who are remoting in right bill the h2 is a little bit over the top but do you think it could be done on like a rock 64 or something I don't see you going on yeah just Debian on a rock 64 Rocko 64 if you can yeah and then it was very simple yeah I didn't really do anything and I just worry about maxing out the processor on some of them but I'm not maxing out the processor on I think it's a media tech in the Android device i bought for 30 bucks but i'd imagine that the the rock 64 is more than $30 yeah probably once you get the accessories and the power and case and everything for it - they're cheap cell phones I mean you can get a cell phone for 50 bucks or so yeah but you can jack it into a real monitor most of them you know what I don't know if a user or not I'm I'm using my cell phone for the first time and it's great and I don't need a monitor I'm sitting outside so yeah I monitor yeah but I'm trying to do it with a room full of people connecting people remotely but I'll just show you gwg so even though I'm looking at the phone here over every time I glance over here can you guys see so I can so this this is HDMI you could point this out to a projector TV is that coming out of the phone though no the phone is my camera but this is just this is the one that I create the meeting on in zoom so I can push record yeah I'm looking for something that could do both there's nothing no need to do handle the recording that can be done remotely it's just to make sure that I connect one roomful of people to everybody who's promoting it hmm so it's one of those things what I have works well enough now but again it keeps down raising the audio and it does crash every so often so I make look but right now I'm not going to be buying any things I think in-person conferences are currently not something I should be investing in it yeah true enough well it's a good time to be asking communities hey what's the best way to do group chat everybody's doing it now well I'm pretty well set up again just for the single this is just the group thing that I do every few months and yeah again the next one scheduled for June and who knows what that's gonna happen the good thing about this is that now all the video solutions are really putting being and the people are going to discover a lot of solutions and that is finding out what solutions who absolutely just suck my concern with setting it up good what were you gonna say Bell you're my concern with with setting it up with on the h2 with Debian was the logic tech camera I didn't know the logic tech would work I got a c920 and it worked immediately just work box not yeah it looks great well the 920 is also have some hardware decoding which is why you'd want to use them so hopefully make it a little easier on the processor inside and I have the one that I'm coming in on now is a 920 and I thought the room camera here the wide shot of the room is also a 920 there that's I'm not fighting the problem is the cameras right above the monitor and I keep knocking it off mostly because I converted this to a standing desk so every time I come it's a manual standing desk every time I crank it up the camera gets out of alignment right oh yeah I said we can see you now there he is I have a light yes someday I will master video production I think what was it like oh who said we both have faces for radio certainly true in my case [Laughter] so I finally got me you're working and wonderful yay various I see you got your drum kit set up sold ooh yeah how are you doing that I like it real well [Music] just next to the dining room by the way this is the this is where I usually watch the the regular cat5 video go my TV and it has a laptop in the section X that I used to have ot go and I have a plex plug-in on it because a friend of mine have a nexus or running at home and here he is the one who lost 44 terabytes of data because of the it turns out it was a controller that failed and if you had just replaced control the card oh no God so you went through all that rigmarole thinking it was a drive issue yeah as part of his job is fixing rate there were problems as a part with work and here and then five out of the then half the drives whether a him maybe you should try an another controller card so he had to fork out I think he used thousand dollars for new card so I try very hard to make all of my arrays Hardware agnostic and if I can't do that I at least have a backup like the category-five studio here it's controller specific our server but I have an external drive that has two drives in a raid array and he's also a Hardware agnostic but here he has how many um it was a big array so you wouldn't be able to back that up like I've got like a six team arrives Wow eight drives he has a hundred and ten terabytes of total storage yeah Wow when this problem started he had there only forty four terabytes and it is almost completely full over TV and I've done a ripping project so I will probably fill mine up and have to upgrade it at some point but I think I'm going until I run out of space right now remember when no one was gonna need more than the Commodore 64 K that reminds me of the famous gate statement that the 640 cage would be enough for everyone what most people do not understand is that at the time he said that the normal RAM size was 64 K he had 640 K for a few years that was you know for everyone but you know I always thought his statement was 64 K not 640 K it was six forty yes yeah back then that was like extended memory and I remember trying to push that envelope as soon as like well we were using like QE mm 386 and all that kind of stuff to make it work I can top that I started working with punch cards my dad used to work with punch cards we used to go when I was a kid we used to go to his office for Christmas the Christmas party and our gifts always had our name and punch card on them as the tag I didn't use punch cards but I did have to use coding sheets for COBOL programs spec industry we had a colas and worry about going yeah my dad had a speech in in a History Society Association in in the states I think this was 20 years ago about the history of Linux and he started way back when his father got the first computer Sinclair something what a civics ID or something I don't remember and he said and he because he was explaining why he started doing Linux and you know the Quran because all the computers he had in Finland he he for some reason elected computer that was powerful but there was the only way you can get software that didn't come with a machine was to buy software from the UK yeah back in 1980 and it has to be mailed by the post and it could take a month to get that and it was expensive and and so he started doing his own thing and he learned how to program and he said once that he was doing what he thought was much he programmed it in machine language what he thought was assembler because he he wrote the ones and zeros did that for two years before so I explained to him that he needed needed a compiler so a friend of mine did the same thing on a CPM machine he was writing literally the machine code in hex and then he would he wrote utilities in CPM that would then assemble up all that or linked up all that memory and bring it all up into each of the individual pages that he wrote codeine he would come he would punch them all together munch being a very technical word right everything would bring them all together and basically linked them up and I told him at the time you know what you've done I said you've written in the same place yeah I realize that now and a leader but he wrote it all from scratch yeah I think our our zoom meeting is about to end unfortunately we are limited for time but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do my best to hold these coffee breaks once a day around the same time around noon now it's gonna be a little more difficult for me through the week because I am gonna be working unless they close down but I'll be here on I'll post if the time changes but otherwise I'm gonna aim for 12 o'clock noon so if you'd like to join us that's great I DEP that I'll be able to join you during the week Rubby because although I'll be working from home I will be working day we are all need a coffee break though yeah but I'm in Central Time so I live in a clock my time it's noon your time so you know doesn't doesn't quite work it's 5:00 p.m. it's five o'clock somewhere yeah yeah yeah all right gang well we'll see you again very soon if you can't be here throughout the week just know that we're wishing all the best and to good health and safety for everybody take care take care of