welcome to the coffee break everybody it is the 30th of April the final day of April 2020 we got you Joe nice to see you we got Marsh man in the fishbowl we've got Peter staring directly into the Sun so boo EP 9 Robbie and live from the matrix it's Ron Morissette yes don't Ron's Becker in there oh boy oh goodness get that off of the screen there Ron that's a lady in a red dress I'm slow today I'm so sorry on slow I'm not picking a call matrix references all matrix reference I've got it okay okay joining us for some reason everybody has disappeared off my screen I don't know what you are we can hear you but you are frozen solid but luckily you have a glorious smile and everybody has well typically if video if videos gonna freeze it's gonna be when you're like must be what it is it's all your fault my wrong to your phone is gonna be filled with matrix references now tell whether is that that looks like your actual background it doesn't look like it made up oh wait wait wait is that is that all the matrix is that Molech now ski or is that Agent Smith oh man we just can't help ourselves can we just just can't help ourselves oh I learned I learned something this week HDMI connectors don't work are not the way to do it yeah I remember I told you you guys I I thought I would give it a shot because for like a hundred and fifty bucks each I can get an HDMI extender and that would allow me to run Ethernet cable for HDMI 4k from the cameras in the studio but I thought okay well what about trying something cheaper just to see if it works and they got these little five dollar couplers it's like a 2-pack for 10 and it did not work no you get what you pay for with your people but the idea was that it would allow you to plug the camera into this coupler and then that coupler into a 15 foot or 30 foot HDMI cable probably not bandwidth yeah they're supposed to be 4k compatible Peter but they definitely were not so on the screen it was just all garbled and I just looked like a mess so so that's not gonna work but the good news is it gave me a new search query because I was looking at HDMI extenders right because that's the only thing I'm familiar with which converts it to a so you have a transmitter and a receiver and then in between you have a cat6 cable right so they're 150 bucks each for the cheap ones and this is because it's 4k not 1080p so you pay a bit more the little couplers gave me a new search query which was HDMI repeater and so I did I used I used that as a search query on B&H and for 30 bucks they've got a powered repeater so it's basically exactly like the coupler plug one HDMI in here plug another HDMI here and it acts as an as a repeater but it's powered and watching between is that is the an Ethernet cable a cat5 no pointers it just no Explo HDMI to HDMI but powered ok so where where as the five dollar ones were passive so so I'm hoping that means it's going to give me the bandwidth and the signal strength and they are rated for 4k 60 you know so I ordered four of them and we'll hope that they get here fairly quickly because last night was really tough did you open up the passive ones to see what was inside I'm bidding no I'm just while I click dire yeah no I clicked on the Return button very quickly but not before giving it 1 out of 5 stars I also posted a picture of it oh it came up on the screen well it but the question is did you exceed the normal length or an HDMI cable oh so it sure worked no the coupler says that it will do up to 40 meters yeah not only normal is that normal for HDMI though if you did not have a couple of what's the maximum length you could do I think what I remember hearing years ago when I started doing 4k was 50 feet is kind of the end of the line before you have to power something but I wasn't even doing feet yeah I think I had two 15 footers so and yet these things were advatage that 40 meters or something is it what you said yeah 49 is is a hundred and twenty feet yeah well yeah I know I you know how these things are on Amazon right like it'll say in the description it's 4k and then in the bottom it'll be 480p like it's literally just why is running from one type to the other and nothing else in between but there's such a with wires there's such terrible wires that it doesn't even work well yeah can you believe that day people you know an air well that's why that's exactly what I did so that's why I was broadcasting from my production studio last night instead of the main studio I couldn't run the cables into the main studio but it was like a last-minute dad because I was going to broadcast from Studio E and then of course just before the show is when I was testing everything and it didn't work so I had to come up with a solution which was to put all the keys put the camera and the the lighting in my little office and broadcast from there because the cable then could reach the server directly without having to extend it so that's what I did hey I I did a search for Peters in Oh set up so I know what that is now and it it really reminds me are you familiar with NS is or null soft installations or system or something like that remember null soft the creators of show shoutcast yeah okay they made shoutcast and winamp is another popular application so they created one called NS is which was the null soft installer system or something like that and and it's a win windows installer that was a scriptable installer system and that that's what I used to use so back in my Windows days I usually use something called a create install it will rush on their installer it is it's still being developed 17 years ago or something I translation and in return he gave me a lifetime key for the nice yeah yeah and again the other thing they merged people then it's buddy I couldn't get to work on them later and I also found a problem my audio interfaces without in shuttle as I told you crooked and even though this told you before I'll do better because a black the may 9 tests yo get up like it's a good English oh okay so all this all this time the audio problems Peter was having is because the speakers built into the laptop were no good and so you plugged in the external speakers and it worked out ah here we are looking at it from a programmatic standpoint say no we don't know what what how to do it Peter and that Deeks that's what we do yeah so we got to back up a little bit retrace our steps and say did you remember to plug in the speakers did you try turning it off and on again is the new --'tis 122 gave to me cuz I'm dealing with therefore but he did that but I got to win the plane and we don't have when I'm salgo given to it but it's pretty good stuff in it they just told you to crooked or something on it you know the curves and all right a bloody leg speakers with amplifier it work so well yeah good glad to hear it so those of you watching if you have no sound make sure you plug in your speakers they probably all make sure the speakers in the laptop actually work it's funny that you say that Ron because I've actually had customers who have said that their computer wasn't working and then it ended up being that it wasn't plugged in last night on the show everybody speakers were out Robbie during Becca's second segment I still never figured out what what went on there the second segment there was no sound but then when I loaded the file into DaVinci Resolve afterward there was sound so when when we were broadcasting live I thought oh maybe I had accidentally muted the wrong channel because I did include those the UFO videos I included those in the news room so I thought oh maybe when I muted the sound on those maybe I accidentally muted the sound on Beca - but I didn't so hmm never figured it out but it's it's good on demand so you can watch the videos one thing I will tell you Robbie real quick even I really don't want to have you know linger on this but I did find that watching the live broadcast on the Roku at least I don't know if anyone else is using the Roku but you're very jerky on the it's like the refresh rate on the on the screen is much lower than it used to be I heard say fine but Studio II it's it's I really hope he's not saying that I was actually coming across as being jerk no no no no no wow Robby's got a bad attitude tonight but I did not say anything because because I did not want to detract from the show you were having enough issues yesterday you boy I have noticed that seat studio a and I thought it might be something to do with the feed or so I don't know good to know I'll try it all right the next week please do yeah I mean if should to sleep in any other Roku you'll eat the only thing with Roku and was studio D was the lag time but I don't care about lag if I get good smooth video but it wasn't buffering or anything like that it was it was it's literally just old frame rate you would yeah very slow frame rate it would it acted like a very low resolution only every other frame was coming through or something so it was the original like I made the comedy yes it was just like season one you were dealing with yeah we'll have to do some testing I know we did have we as in I had wire cast locked up a few times and I figured it out during the first segment so before I had before I restarted while your cast it was actually because remember how at the beginning if you were watching live I shut off the servers and everything because I didn't want to ambient noise yes though Wirecast had a bunch of assets the loaded on the server so when I shut down the server it actually lost access to those files so so when it was like stopping it was because it was having trouble accessing network assets ok ok so the second time when I reloaded it I actually removed those assets before going live if those fans are so loud in the producers room now yeah is it generating a bunch of heat as well I mean the others fans running well because they have to cool that much so holding up ok well it's it's it's notably warmer in the producers room than in rubbished yeah but it's not uncomfortable but but yes and no the the fan on the backup drive is really loud like it's yeah but it's only got two hard drives in it and so it seems like it could probably get away without a fan but what I've done instead is back April sixteenth I think it was well I ordered off Amazon silent fan eighty millimeter silent fan so I'm gonna replace that it's just a standard PC okay and you could treat him so yeah so I'll replace that that's a quiet things down could you do something like measure the temperature in the bulb the main turn the family will I don't know how a Dell server handles that so the Dell server it's like if the fans are automatically spun up as needed but but in the backup I'll just replace the fan or I could even put a I could put a resistor on the fan and slow it down a little bit yeah but then you'll then you'll slow down that airflow as well so the fan yeah but cooler I was a trooper absolutely but as I was thinking it's it's only got two drives in it and it's just a backup drive so it only were it's only really doing anything once a day when the back takes place or when I when I eject the drive and plug it back in again it makes you wonder why it's working so hard that it needs such you know hard-working say um I don't think it is I think it's it's just not PWM it's just it's just a it's spinning at maximum velocity and it's probably just a cheap fans Delson noisy the Dells are - yeah I remember Eric in their 2016 replacing our to use over here and we were at the data center and they helped us install the drives and the supporters I had I used server from them and then they turn up they had to one of the drove was bad so one of them drove down the street to the vendor got a new one and when the India fisted they shut down the computer all fear was simultaneous one I gave you which I gave you will be that they will Adam the dog my friends got a they're foodies go wig and they say by the way where I was earlier blowies Wiggles but it was so loud and so much we've done ever said that I put all the science and everything then and then you wonder fishing went book but Apple times and everything now protected very good they did very very naughty you got anyway yeah servers can be super loud like that like bill said the Dell server is just like especially when you fire it up it's all Bowie because soul boo you know you know soon as you fire that thing up it's like it's it's silences itself after a few minutes but it's still really loud you wanna you wanna watch the VMS what is it called vex machine starting up the thing is recommend to this particular one was a high availability unit and we actually would shut it down unless we really needed it that you know - two or three jobs ago because every time it started out there was a set of a huge set of fans at the very top of the of the rack so all the units were step and then these fans acted as cooling for all of them and so the moment you cranked it up all four fans cranked up to full speed and I wondered if it was going to work like a drone with the whole thing it was layout it was like a jet starting you know what I'd love love love to do would be to buy like a three or four you chassis and then like install like a an i7 or something like that in it and a whole bunch of SSDs exactly that in 2006 he placed our first server in a in in you know data Saturday and it was a full disk chassis and the next week we go to the along whether they had used to you that they could have who you is pretty thin now so we able to put the cooler in did you have to give us a wing system they won't think that we had have to tweak was the VGA card okay a low profile yeah it was not a low profile the court so and we had a friend who lived there and he take you to idiot home and he he erect the fastening and metal thing at the end and he tried it around edge of the earth that's VDI chord it's never again leaving that just these days one of the most sorry go ahead are you get annoyed at that they draw sand and then the only ones of annuities it's very tighter ones when I go there that's generally in my job you know is it when when you a taste guava they kids know it then but I doubt there any security do it the well but yeah Derrick Jake the other than either true ones but he didn't really grow appoint you to elaborate a Georgia unfair well make the the SSDs won't only be quieter but also a lot cooler I would expect so now definitely quicker for my server though it's pretty much only file storage at other than I do have some virtual machines running on it I've got VirtualBox on it but it doesn't really need a lot of juice though if I had a more powerful server I think I'd probably like install my website and back-end architecture on a virtual machine I think that's one really nice so in this thing you wouldn't use an ish ish day for a hug drugs intensive time yeah lots of region I would but I would use a Enterprise SSD hmm for that price oh the big the biggest difference with the the enterprise versus the consumer drives I would say is the how much data can be written and read from it before the drive is subject to failure Enterprise drives also are meant to be run 24/7 with heavy workload yeah where as a consumer drive a consumer drive is meant to be like powered on and powered off when you're done and and not be right into it continually the game would change someone like is in the once I gotta cut the thang like takes a month I couldn't you think mm-hmm I like to film the lunch well they wasn't exhausted I think he's asking if the Kingston SSDs that you push on the show of the consumer or enterprise well both if you go onto our website category five dot TV do a search for Kingston and I would say what what would be a good search query just do a search for Kingston enterprise and you'll see we talk well we've talked about both but I've I've had an interview about the data center the DC for hundreds I believe so those would be the ones I'd be put in oh yeah yeah it depends on your workload it depends on what you're doing like in my website I definitely I'd want to have DC drives for sure in in a data center as well doing computer program state yeah yeah Marion I did want to pick up on one other item that we talked about yesterday that we didn't get to finish talking about and that was that was not a big deal it was this is the is the conversation I had to cut short and we're like three minutes to haven't don't worry about it but I did want to make a real really important point is that get like other source control systems like CVS and like subversion if you're from those is a source control or a text versioning system it's not meant as a backups solution in yesterday's conversation some of us and I don't want to I don't even remember who it was but somebody said it was a sore back or something so who was talking about all your fault made don't don't don't use it as a backup solution it's because it's not it's not only for additional safety measure against typos or accident there are them and then you also can push if you have a behavior and create a barrier so that you you control then you can also push to that so that you can only you can only back up to the point where you last checked in there so if you don't check in very often and the beds not very useful to you it's an ignorance okay so you've got up to last night's version oh I get it just don't don't let that be the only backup because repositories I back them up I used like I do all my other sure I think though I think and I called it Etsy backup but you're right Sol do it's called Etsy keeper so maybe it's the perspective is not a backup solution but more of like soul boo just mentioned if I screwed up my config I can easily revert it to it just like my commercials on my get repository right I can easily revert a change because if I'm working on a server I'm probably using nano or VI where I don't always have the capability of undoing what I just screwed up so I just want to make that point you don't treat this like a backup solution because it's not it is not a backup got it it is a version control use our diff - backup that's the one I love check that out if you haven't already our diff is a tool that is able to check the difference between files at a bit by bit level okay our different backup uses our sink in addition to that so you're able to run a backup at the bit level so if you modify a file the backups usage on the disk is only the size of the change not the actual file so what do you what do you end up getting on where your backup destination is what do you get you get a full working copy of the backup that you can access the files however within that you use our diff backup is the tool but how do I get the files back well there you could just copy and paste them if you wanted to however using artifact up with the restore options you can go back in time to any previous date okay so you can actually go back to a week ago or a month ago whatever so the tool is fantastic it's like time machine for Linux terminal and the job I had before I had the computer setup to copy the this the office files spreadsheets and so on they're great use case yeah the only thing you needed and that ran just fine until they decided [Laughter] see you later have a wonderful afternoon I'm looking forward to tomorrow's coffee break be here and this one will be up super quick because of the API so you watch you watch how come oh wow I just disappeared look at me be gone oh well I take it easy everybody had a great afternoon