welcome to today's coffee break everybody I guess this week's coffee break ah I've got my coffee how's everybody doing doing fine thanks Robbie how are you sir very well bp9 I see Marsh man Peter and bp9 are joining me today this is our first regular Sunday coffee break and it was like it was a mad dash to figure it like to get in and get set up and and up and running to be ready cuz I'm actually at studio today so how do you like that glare coming off the forehead from the skylight eh well enough I got nothing for some reason my uh my face is hidden in shadow it usually is not so oh yes stand by kind of share some light there yeah so the one thing I'm finding here at Studio II because it's cool outside so like the hallways in the mall are cool but we still have all the equipment and all the lights and the skylight so the the AC unit is not equalizing to our studio so it's it's quite warm in here so if I stop I'm actually a little bit on the moist story thanks bp9 oh so I got a couple of packages woohoo and I don't Marsh man I don't mean to rub this in dude I'm not looking I don't look don't look that's pretty cool huh oh yeah you weren't looking you weren't looking what else did I get so what are you up to Marsh man I am tired of not being able to answer the questions about NEMS and and monitoring Windows machines so I am trying to figure this out mmm-hmm I feel you there what I got you got your pine Book Pro nice and I got it configured the way I want it no way I see you've got xfce on there so it's this Olivia it's a Debian install it is yeah but it is a it is it's actually it been - bionic I believe oh it is okay yeah so so it took me I signed up way too late last night figuring out how to make it how to make it work wow that's the configure see I've got like a dealer display on the back yeah that's on the root window and the only window manager that lets me do that is actually seeing how what I can tell so that's why I just I just love that display so that's cool very good man I hope you enjoy it except for the D key it's fine the D key is giving you grief yeah all I have to do is just graze it it doesn't matter what distro why you should don't wait or the keyboard is too sensitive or something Welbeck keys oh dear it's the only problem so I haven't I haven't looked to see if you can I know like on a typical laptop you can pull off the key and adjust the like the spring mechanism I wonder if that's worth trying these are - oh yeah I don't know if they can be removed or not yeah well I've had the back off already - have a look at it and it does not appear - it looks like I have to completely disassemble the thing together to give it the power let us know how that goes yeah well the first thing to do is to get another key border yeah maybe see if they'll just replace it and replace this because I should try a USB keyboard first and just make sure that that works yeah there you go forget about the portability aspect and just like connecting so much troubleshooting Marshman I feel your pain dude we often get turns on the NEMS forum and on the names discord names linux asking for Windows stuff and I don't have a Windows test environment anymore so so you're figuring it out and figuring out how to monitor with WMI yes count your blessings you don't have a Windows environment I do every day every freaking day a lot of folks use it in business so it makes sense for a monitoring apparatus to be able to monitor Windows systems right and it does if you've got a 90 plus percent market share what are you going to do it but my commented I commented on on this court earlier it's like for all the problems Windows have it can be annoyingly secure when you don't want what do you want ping to work and ICMP is being blocked yeah think about that for a second why even why even so in your internal land you can't by default ping your device it just doesn't make sense what you're kidding ICMP is blocked in the Windows Firewall by default and and to enable on land so but so sorry Peter can you mute your microphone if you can do that please you have to enable like printer sharing ICMP like it seems it seems like an unrelated setting in the firewall but I mean while it enables pin thief yeah so if you're trying to see if your servers up and it's not replying to pings so how are you what do you wear you at right now bill is is it coming along I've got I've got Winton working with the ping and okay check CPU cool I'm working on Server 2016 Server 2019 right now get those set up but there's uh there's a lot of settings you got a set and I found you'd have to add your names user into the Windows machine oh yeah so you have to you create Windows user we have the same matching name yes and you can't simply set that in MEMS SST does the authentication for Windows networks work to override that well no it'sit's you can you can push it okay you can put as it put it in SST you can put your him user in there but it goes to the Windows machine and the Windows machines like I don't know who you are right you can say whoever you who you are but if I if you're not in my definition you don't exist yeah I know security let you in if you don't know yes try to access a Samba share if your user isn't a Samba user yeah or an SSH you know station yeah the setups are showing me that you can go into the the decom which is which is part of the WMI and in the windows machine yeah there's a spot for anonymous logon don't work oh it doesn't work so there's a spot for it but it doesn't get it's there that's weird so it has to be clear are you trying to run mins on a Windows instance on a window I'm trying to monitor a Windows machine from a mins ok so now the old and and this is where a lot of the confusion comes in and I got confused with it as well a lot of the services in Em's even though it's all they're paying and everything it's all based on n RPE that's all and you need to use WMI so I think that's our biggest problem is all these users are posting like I'm setting it up and it's not that kind of like yeah that's because it's it's an old set up and you and for NR PE you could get it working if you install NS client on the Windows machine and then jump through all these hoops of fire and windows to get it to work but that's just an old way of doing it oh yeah and that RP is great for Linux but yeah tough on what is this network protocol that is allowed it's not SMTP that's a simple mail transfer protocol they've seen an EP or something yeah SNMP is still a thing anymore yeah yeah yeah we've got SNMP trapping on UNM's ok oh it's gonna ask why wouldn't you use a sending crate windows includes WMI so you can presumably be able to access statistics like the CPU usage the RAM usage the hard drive space all that stuff is all built into WMI so that's what it's that's what it's designed for usage fantastic I don't think I have the parameters correct for the windows the CPU though cuz right in its average CPU utilization need at least 2 WM I samples so I don't think I have that set up exactly Corona ok but if you posted on that Aki that's great yeah you got further than me cuz I don't even have a Windows machine yeah I've been like I'm so seriously I've talked about it on the coffee break I'd love to get like a 3u server chassis and put a computer in there that's really quiet and now it's like oh man because if I could do that with a powerful enough server or just a desktop machine inside of a server case then I could virtualize and create a sudo like virtual Windows Network so that I don't have to actually put Windows machines around right so but if the aim is to be able to monitor Windows machines then you have to do what mash man is doing over there - yeah yeah put a Windows machine on the network and point names at it and okay what do you got yeah in a virtual in a virtual machine Network I could just create a Windows machine and I don't have to start monkeying with one of my production servers or something because I don't I don't need it I don't need to monitor Windows systems because I don't have any so so for me it's just I have to be able to provide documentation to the users so I think bill everything that you're doing is going to be fantastic because you're basically doing what I don't have the capability to do yes the I just spun up to two VMs on my dad knows there's a 2016 and a 2019 so see my servers out of space I don't have space on my server hard drive space so that's my problem because I want like two windows I run into Windows on a daily basis on my job first moved in there Robbie when you first got it I said that's gonna be great now whoops I'm actually I'm comedy blading yeah Lincoln well I only work for Mert I'm usually to turn nighttime oh that was weird feedback yeah that was my fault I'm sorry it was trying oh yeah c'mon oh I see I'll be right back alright well that's cool bill thank you so much for for taking care of that because that's something that has been lacking for a very long time yeah yeah a nice I hear the frustration and the questions and I'm like yeah and the the issue is is that the service is there right check WMI plus is installed and active and configured and everything works great but you have to know how to set it up in order to do it and I haven't created any documentation to do that there's a lot of steps yeah so that's gonna be that's gonna be great yeah glad to do it thanks man I got a couple of things here have arrived figure I'll show you guys first what do you think that's for we're going for dummies did you hide there yeah it looks like that restaurant free pie a raspberry pie high quality camera it's out of focus but you were you were bad-mouthing it for the cost I really should yeah did you get one yeah oh there's the lens okay cool did you get I think they sent both oh oh they sent yes yes cuz he's at anybody sent both yeah he's a TV star now don't you know so this is poor evaluation only [Laughter] there we go closer yeah how many gigabytes are a mass at vp9 looks like a gigabyte compatible software required with an important note cuz I can't read because it's that's very PI 4 8 gig compatible but that's gonna I'm gonna turn that into an M server I think that's gonna be our nem server here at the studio cuz that's gonna be pretty brutally awesome for power but it's got the argon one as well so for 12 volt you can put you can put any vault into that okay right because just anybody yeah sorry remember Robbie you don't have the documentation yes we say five point two volts max yes max well the reason I asked was because a mirror droid already found the floor in the layout of your 1u rack server rack cuz you had some 12 volt and five volt single board computers out there yes and you were planning to them all on one voltage so you were gonna make some fireworks if I mistake I wouldn't make that mistake just physically laid them out and then realized God that yet yeah it would have been under voltage though anyways that was what I asked not to give much man a hard time but that little guy the 8gig is gonna go in the argon one of course and names Linux compatibility yeah the argon one case are you familiar with that no that's a fantastic looking case I told ya so but it's got the it's got an IO that comes off the board so that all of the jacks are on the back unlike the traditional Raspberry Pi case where you end up with some stuff on the front and the side and so they're not really not really so it puts everything out the back yeah and it's got a software power switch so you can program what you want it to do when you push the power button mm-hmm it's gonna be pretty cool yeah it from Amazon I got the currently unavailable we don't know what to do yeah look so I waited and waited and waited and ordered it from China and then the next day in typical Amazon style well they said they were getting it yeah say it's it's doing Amazon buy on the 12th of June yeah it's do in and then they can ship mine's already on its way so yeah you think Amazon got the shipment now got the units from the same place you ordered her from in China you know well they had him and then they went out of stock and waited for a while and I got fed up and watered him Amazon's got buying power though an Amazon will have will warehouse enough of them that the price is lower right so it's kind of worth waiting but that's good that you got one coming anyway it looks like a really sleek case you got the 8 gig Raspberry Pi yes they do I've heard they're having trouble with supply and demand because all of us geeks decided to buy one or multiple the day that they were released yeah it was something to do while we're still in true you know houses right that's right yeah but and and Beckham made mention of it on the news this week and one of the comments was really valid is is that it looks like raspberry pie is actually going on going after the low-end desktop market which is really an interesting I think it's still a little underpowered CPU wise like the SOC itself oh no what do you think Marsh man how have you found it I that is perfect for the low-end market right there yes yeah that if this is the device this is the one for sure mm-hmm I have only been running MEMS on on the 8 gig so far okay yeah as we you know you're in into a couple of snags during the week so I think that's all it's been doing yeah okay honey I'm using the three B plus two to do all the windows testing that's cool oh and to go back to the to the incorrect power supply know the order I just got from Mary Joy I ordered an X you four and an emmc module and I ordered a power supply for my Rock Pro right which is a larger power supply but a marriage riod that the shipper they notice that and they sent me an email saying we noticed you ordered an X you four and this larger power supply this for something else because we don't want you to blow up your board they were really good on them good on them yeah said I said no it's for it it's for another one you got it thank you very good and then they shipped that's fantastic that's good to hear I mean you're not gonna get that kind of service from Amazon that's for sure I love that attention to detail and gummi bears because you've got to get gummy bears right yep now why is your robot not following you around Robbie what's up with that this isn't the robot I know it isn't because I've seen you walking around yes following you around no no that's that's for that's the robot cam that's a different camera this is special event for us riffraff on the coffee break I'm on I'm on the a camera what are you talking about this is like our most expensive camera although I got a tone down the exposure because of my forehead under these lights just a little bit yeah you forgot the white balance or didn't you I didn't bother for colour break come on now just so you know Robbie I just got Server 2016 working and MEMS is seeing a fantastic oh that's great Oh Phil you're doing such a such a service for the community thanks man need so you're gonna have Lazarus like a Lazarus program running presumably as like a demon or something on a raspberry yeah yeah yeah okay yeah I'll tell you I think you can compile it and they could polygroup all the time give me ready money does you know code yeah so what is what Peters talking about is he showed this in our discord he's built a sine wave generator oh you've got it with you you know just rip off your headset and throw it on the ground come on so he's gonna with the Raspberry Pi he's got four buttons on the front of this thing and he's gonna be able to push it and it's gonna interact with the GPIO and then it's gonna control this circuit that he's designed to be able to create the sine waves yeah that's cool it's way it's what I say it's cool it's way beyond me it's like I'm I'm down here you're up there Jane Jim I think you're Lincoln goes across with well Peggy's would make you know I I'm just being honest that I don't understand any of it but I like it and I want it I want to learn how to do like more like like my circuits my circuits are like relays I'll do a circuit that's just a relay and an LED and that's about that's the level that I'm adding lights go on now if I can make them go on and off and on and off on a schedule oh you guys want to know what I did remember how oh if you saw the feature the QA on mikrotik hmm I actually set our guest Wi-Fi to automatically turn off during non-business hours no so on the mikrotik I've got it on a schedule so that the guest Wi-Fi is not on 24/7 it's only on should be in use so people can't use it after hours and stuff so the reason I asked you a while ago rob you about running one microchip grabba and who internet modems yeah that's a pretty normal yeah configuration do like a failover internet so what we all I do or just let it every at real-time pick the best part figure out which is the best moment to use for you typically we want a hat we want to say the fastest one is always the default because you don't want your IP address changing all the time you're gonna get routing problems and you're gonna and then you're gonna like your sessions are gonna change every time the IP changes and everything so we pick the best path which would be the fastest internet connection and then if that one goes down then we failover to something like LTE or DSL something else so that there's a failover okay so that means there's only ever one in service at any given time that's my preference favor you and mute that microphone you thank you my preference my preference is to have a failover but that's because typically I mean internet I've got one really good connection and the other one is like LTE five megabits a second so I really only want that to be so that internet never goes down but I never want it to be my normal chain right well you've seen it you've seen it happen to me on coffee break with you and it's gone down once twice three times sometimes right you know which to my regular phone so what you need to do that is you'd have to have you'd have to have a oh what's the term I know it and yes mikrotik can help you with it bond bonding you have to have an internet bond so you have two connections that are then creating one connection and then the router will will decide where that traffic goes okay but the problem you can run into if you're using like say you're using a streaming service where like say Netflix where you're authenticated on the Netflix service or something right I don't know how it will react to that because you knows your IP address and and where you are and so if all of a sudden you're on a different IP address will that affect things or I don't know and I would imagine it session based so whatever but yeah program ease it would be it would have established the session probably can't imagine no matter but I agree I makes me I don't know that I want to pay for a whole new internet service and have to coming to the house just on the off chance that I have to here I have to here and I'm only using one but they but provided by the same internet provider well I have no I have a cellular connection and I have the coax so I'm only running on the coax cuz I'm like yeah the cellular was just too slow I didn't didn't want to go to the effort I might connect it but yeah use it as a failover but I'd hate to be in the middle of a show and all of a sudden be and finally if it's a second you say that but when you're streaming 2k video not so much you'd rather it go down yeah so I'm trying to decide if it's worth my while to just bring for another service the only two options I have here how often does it go down well that's the key right that's the thing it's just not often enough yeah but it just it's it's either when I'm streaming YouTube or streaming Netflix yeah but it doesn't happen often enough it's just enough to annoy me but not enough to write look to make me do any anything about yeah so but I was trying to figure out if the mikrotik would would help me with that attempt like it can but what I thought it would do is is just on the fly pick which is the best path to use but you're right did not think of those other room those other corns yeah mine because my router has that as that option of two wins to services coming in so so you look at a micro tech if it has five ports you you can actually set what each of those ports are so it comes by default as port one as your wand or but you could have you could set three of them as one ports and then and then you can bridge them yeah and you can create a bonded Network but that's beyond anything I've ever done I just have done failover so that if the first you know I prioritize the first one is the best one so if it ever goes down move to the second one and then if the first one comes back up moved back to the first one which fight which would work but again as you say even zoom might get cranky it might yeah you're gonna have that hiccup as you change services yeah it'll it'll be momentary but yeah which case my outages are usually just a few minutes yeah often they're not often longer than that not enough that I would just shut it off and be done with it but it's the frequency of the Attic just that what gets me that when I was when I got knocked off three times off of a zoom I'm done with this and I fired up my phone as a hotspot you've been rated rock steady ever themes as a final thought then you set your phone as a hotspot and then you create a Wi-Fi connection from your mikrotik to your Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone okay and then you share that as a bridge to your network so now you're no now your land can connect through your cell phone's connection and in fact that's a great way to be able to extend your Wi-Fi in the house too you just stick a cheap mikrotik up in in the top floor and all of a sudden you've extended your Wi-Fi and just using micro tech devices fiber gigabit fiber there you go well guys that's all the time that we have for a coffee break today I think we'll we'll try Sunday again next week if this has worked for you guys it's close to working for me I've got to figure out kind of my schedule completely once we lock it down then it'll become a regular routine kind of like the normal show which is always live Wednesday's 7 p.m. sharp right yes I'll see you Wednesday I don't know what time I'll be here but I'll see you guys take care