hello this is uh category five coffee break uh today is sunday the 11th of october 2020. uh i'm bp 9. hello and with me we have sobu give us a way of sobu and we have doug give us a wave doug and uh we've got peter here in the uh in in the uh meeting but uh i've got no audio from peter so i don't know what's going on right now can you hear me now oh rather i do have good audio i'm sorry we do have good audio i've got no video from you peter your audio's perfect but i've just got no camera okay let me let me i'll start hitting the game about that back to that yeah much better there we go we can see you now very good complete with complete with sound bars from the um uh from the from your lighting i don't know if that's your fluorescent lighting or your led lighting or what it is but adorable yeah all right then so uh uh i've had some fun this week i have been having all kinds of fun um i'm still i'm trying to figure out this thing called docker i don't know if anyone's actually used that here on the on the uh on the list but i'm trying to figure that out because um i still have some cbs uh um repositories source code in cvs repositories that i need to convert to get and the problem is that the tool that i used the tool that i use called cbs to svn requires python 2. and the problem is python 2 is gone and it still exists in in ubuntu 18.04 but it no longer it no longer exists it's been it's been gone and so there are a few packages that i've that i've been using that i've been trying to use that just plain don't exist anymore and cvs to svn is one of them it's gone now you just can't get it and if they ever if they ever go to um if they ever upgrade it so that it can use um so that it can use python 3 then we should be good shape but currently there's no uh there's no there's no uh plan for that so i'm running uh ubuntu 18.04 on the pine book and the pine book is starting to bug me now because it says i want to upgrade i want to upgrade to ubuntu 20.04 and i don't want to do the upgrade because if i do the upgrade i'm going to lose all the python 2 stuff so i've stopped that upgrade for right now and so far that's working out okay but um i need a way to uh to to either start up a virtual machine that's an 1804 virtual machine or i need a way to um to run docker also docker seems to be a better option just because it's more lightweight but what about virtual well virtualbox is an option too peter that that's one of my options as well and i can certainly do that i've got enough cpu and enough memory to be able to do it as a virtual machine but i wanted to try docker because i've never tried it before so i have no problem doing doing virtual machine if i can you know if i need to um but i will i will try um i do want to have a good docker first so uh if anyone has used docker before i'd be more than happy to to chat about that also test harnesses now i don't know whether anybody has has has done this in my computing professional computing career i have worked on all kinds of languages starting from cobol way way way back when to c [Music] c plus plus java all kinds of assembly language all kinds of other languages as well but one of the things i really liked about uh not java specifically but a toolkit that you can use with java called spring um or or spring boot which is a variant of spring and one of the things that lets you do is to define test at what's called a test harness which consists of nothing but test code um code that you use to exercise your library or your application that you're trying to run usually you would run this application as a you know command line argument or a gui or whatever it is that you're trying to run your application to do but you can actually execute you can actually build an executable that is a test harness that does nothing but exercise the various parts of your of the rest of your application doesn't run the gui or any of that mess it's a separate application it's all part of g lab is is what i use it for and i love it i've just started uh i mean i've built myself a pretty crappy uh test harness originally but all i could do is say run all the tests i couldn't really select which ones they were nor could i effectively see what the test results were but with glib it's sort of built in so anyway that's what i've been working on i've been having all kinds of fun with that and um yeah my fine time still bricked still not showing at home still bricked i haven't i i haven't had a chance to go back and work on it yet i do charge it up i'm pretty confident that it charges um but i really need to get back onto this but i'm having so much fun with with test harnesses and fun stuff like that but i haven't really really done anything with the time time so i really need to to hurry up and do that um anyway so that's pretty much what i've been up to robbie's not with us today because i think it's canadian thanksgiving this weekend which i believe is believe it's monday in the us when we have thanksgiving it's usually the thursday you get the friday off and then you've got the two so you've got like a four day weekend it's great but um i think the canadian thanksgiving is the other way around i think it's i think you get the weekend and then you get the monday off um i haven't really looked into that so that's what i've been up to um so what what sort of mess have you been i see you back on the bridge of uh what is that voyager yeah uh oh nice yeah i'm i just i'm having the night shift so and uh nelixia came with some food for me today how nice what is that pizza yeah oh yeah he he finally managed how to do pizza so oh very nice nice it's looking good i like it it's looking very good i finally i finally managed how to hang the backdrop so i found on um in the basement of my house the premium owners left behind some uh curtain hangers at the pole that they couldn't hang around yeah yeah so i mean i'm using one of those two um between two uh um poles or something because it lags down in the middle right yeah yeah and if you get too energetic with your hand movements it gets confused and it starts to bleed through so just just so you know that yeah other than that i i used a full hour in an attempt to change uh one of the uh main headlights on on my car uh i noticed that yesterday uh it was broken um after i'm i had a sound engineering job in my church yesterday from 11 o'clock and uh until uh a.m and until until uh 10 o'clock p.m um and i got dinner and supper and yeah so i had to wait until today in order to change it and then um in modern cars it's not too much room in order to change a light bulb in a modern car so i had to fiddle in order to get the light bulb out and then i went into the gas station where i stopped and i bought a new one and i couldn't get it to fit in my new car so i needed some tools and so i went home in order to change it and still couldn't make it fit and then i called my brother who after a little searching found out that they sold me their own bulb so yeah problematic could be to chase the bulb if the socket doesn't fit yeah i've been taking taking notes and i've i forgot that i mentioned this i got fountain pens now hey yeah i i have like three or four of them this thing cost a grand total of like a dollar fifty or two dollars for that that's um it came pre-inked i don't think you can even uh i don't think you can even change the ink on it but i've got i've got i don't know three or four of them all different types that i i got as a sample pack basically and i wanted to try them all out and believe it or not this dinky tiny little thing out of the sample pack is the is the the easiest the nicest one to write so you know i'm so retro but now this these headlights of yours um what did you get led headlights now are you swapping them out because i mean my vehicle i've got the old incandescent headlights that are getting dimmer and dimmer and dimmer over time and i really need to replace them but um i would love to just pull them out according to my brother who know a few things about this here is that if you are changing um from uh old-fashioned light bulbs and and fitting uh led lights you most likely you most likely also need to change the light the entire thing because it's not uh calibrated to uh led and it might um be too bright or not um like in the right places or yeah so um well i can also one of the problems with led lights because i have the head beams and i have another an extra set of lights yeah and and there are two filaments in the um in the headlight actual bulb isn't there one filament for the downward facing uh uh headlights and the other for the for the brights yeah i have um in my car i have a kia seed a 2007 version the main lights and another smaller um lamp with the i mean maybe the main beams um so it has only one um thread and it's a different socket than the usual but mine is a minus in this unleash it's a full 100 electric car and it actually has leds for the downward facing lights you know for the lights that cast down onto the under the road and then incandescent lights for the high beams and you it does a control in in at the driver's station at the driver's location that you can actually twist and knob and it it brings the head beams it brings the headlights down like that so they don't shine into um old clunkers and i've never seen that before i love it it's great i'm such a child uh back to their recent uh an argument against uh replacing their bulb old-fashioned light bulbs with led lights is that the led lights there doesn't generate heat and because i noticed in my led extra head beams um when i use those and it's snowing um there's no sticks to the to to the lights and uh after a few um a few months there um they are not good it takes their from there from downtown and in onto my house it takes them a 20 minute drive and if it's snowing i have to stop for 20 minutes i have to stop three times in order to clean those uh lights whereas um so the leds do or do not generate heat they do not so they don't so they don't and they do not melt the snow that's funny yeah i know i know peter i know they're great that's why i like them because i've got them in the airplane i've replaced all of my um incandescent lights in the aeroplane with leds and it's wonderful because i still use a generator not an alternator because it's that old like me and and the uh you hardly see the ammeter wobble anymore when the um uh uh when you turn the light i can have the landing lights on and uh and and the ammeter hardly even wavers now whereas with the old incandescent lights it used to pull like 10 amps or something i mean it was a crazy thing right now the led lights don't ice over uh well i don't fly in ice i'm pfr only i stay out of i stay out of bad weather it's it's a i'm a very conservative pilot i don't i fly when it's pretty weather i mean we've got some crappy weather today because of the hurricane but i thought even on a nice day if you got up high enough you'd get ice no um well well you can if it's really humid outside and that's the thing and you don't have to be in freezing temperatures for that to happen um it's the humidity because what can happen i've had carbice happen before in the um in the airplane because when you're up at nine and a half ten thousand feet and it's still humid up there what will happen is that as air travels through the throat of the carburetor what will happen is ice will will appear here and here and eventually it will just sort of you know go deeper and deeper and deeper close up the throat it'll make the throat less and less you know um uh less air and fuel mixture can get through and what will happen is eventually the mixture will be messed up to the point where it just can't run the engine anymore um and so the engine will quit producing power it never stopped turning but um it uh it did uh uh it did stop um generating power so luckily i was right over the top of another over the top of an airport whose controlled airspace didn't start till like 5000 feet so i just started circling and then um in order to try and figure out the problem before i called mayday i did not have to because i sorted it out well before then and then flew home so that worked out pretty well for me so so doug how are you going sir what's what's new in your world well they figured out that i have a bacteria called um carbolobacter that's not the phrase for this kind no it doesn't sound good at all it's one of the bacteria that's known to cause food poisoning um you've heard of salmonella that that's pretty common yeah oh yeah oh yeah but this one is i guess not as common but it's known the card food cause food poisoning and um i'm taking a zithromyosin if you know what that is it's an uh antibiotic yeah yeah yeah i took the last dose of azithromycin today so i'm going to try some solid food later a three day seven day course then three days three days that's all three 500 milligrams yes is that what they call a z-pack the z-pack is usually six 250 milligram tablets i've had that and you take two the first day and then one for each for five days after that okay okay but you've got a slightly different dose by the sounds of it they gave me they my doctor wrote the script for the six 250 milligrams and he told me to take two a day and um okay then when i got to the pharmacy the uh pharmacist says well we told him we have it in 500 milligram calves so he rewrote the script to give you the 500 milligram crabs and you just take one a day for three days yeah they usually don't like just one a day do they they'd rather let you spread it out over time they'd rather you take two a day or three a day right but i guess well it depends on what you're fighting for most antibiotics right okay with a respiratory illness which is what i've had the zpac for um i get bronchitis sometimes wow they and they will give me zpac for that yeah that's the one where they have the 250 milligram caps and you take the two on the first day and then one for five days after and and to peter's point that's very true yeah i was going to say to peter's point that's very true because what can happen is i mean i've had dental issues um over many many years and at one point i was taking two different antibiotics for two different issues and my dentist and my dentist said i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do any antibiotics because the last thing i want to do is tear up your stomach so what we're gonna do is let these let the current cause that you're on run through and you're just gonna have to put up with what's going on in your mouth and then whenever whenever that's done then we'll address your um antibiotics but that's a very good point peter antibiotics certainly seen that before antibiotics can kill the good bacteria in your gut right right right well i'm so glad you're feeling better doug and i'm certain i'm very happy that they figured out what was what was wrong i hope you i hope you're getting to feeling better i'm probably going to go back to work tuesday especially since i might have paid time off oh yeah i hate it when that happens well i'm contracting at the moment so if i don't work i don't get paid so i haven't had any yes i haven't had any vacation that's gotta hurt yeah it's okay it's it's a time but you know you deal with it you plan you plan ahead and and and and work through it so so doug what else you've been up to then i'll hand it off to peter well basically nothing just trying to recover okay okay sounds good all right peter what uh what sort of trouble have you been caught i mean getting into careful um and by the way let me say peter thank you for um for uh working so hard on yours on your audio because it's perfect this time around that headset that you're wearing i see that it's working really well and you've got great audio and great video and i very much appreciate it and that's why i've tried all things out yeah i've been i've been having type problems with their provider who don't uh do anything particularly uh i've been having intermittent problems whether the provider used to keep dropping out every night you mean your internet provider right yeah okay but there's a blue light on the modem otherwise the carriers coming through but there was nothing coming through and i've complained about six or seven times over the last three months and they not didn't want to do anything particularly well it seems to be working okay now what's different i found out what the problem was i they spoke to they both have salted out this time and giving me back in 48 hours and it's uh 96 hours plus now and they drove and done it like that well don't forget it's a weekend so no no this was on tuesday don't worry this was a long time they just bloody used to think you couldn't uh pull the piss up on the brewery screwed my friends they really are bad uh everybody in england said that but uh i uh unasked your question i got two switches i got a switch up connected to the router which could operate my uh um network system and then there's a wire go downstairs that's connected to a downstairs computer which i can use downstairs of course i've got a switch in there as and that's the one that keeps sticking uh it needs to keep sticking on or off for whatever it used to do and used to erect the internet so i've taken that and put a back-to-back connector on it uh but if you want to have two switches on the same line almost there okay oh yeah i do that all the time um i have um from my uh from my cable well from my internet modem um i have one ethernet cable that runs to my um that runs to my main uh uh uh netgear router um now you know if robbie were here he would say micro dick he would say go get a micro tip and i made i may do that one day but i got a whole slew of of uh linksys routers that i um uh that i inherited but i can but i i can plug up my uh cable modem or my internet modem directly to the links it for the nick gear router and it will uh it how do i put this the the router that i've got also offers wi-fi on 2gig and 5 gig and all that stuff but the problem is that any devices that you connect to your internet router are visible to your internet provider they may be protected from the general internet but your internet provider can see all those devices i do not know if it can see all the stuff that's on those devices you know if there's any network ports open or whatever i don't know if they can get to that they can't i'm not i'm not surprised yeah it doesn't surprise me at all and that's why the very first thing i did was shuttle that stuff down i almost said a bad word shut all that down no wi-fi no 2gig no 5g wi-fi from the internet modem and then just one ethernet cable that runs from the internet modem to my my own internal router which is the only thing that provides the uh that the the 2gig and the 5 gig wi-fi so all that the internet company can see is just my router that's it and then i've got more routers in the network i've got more routers in the network to spread out the load even further if i need to yeah yeah yeah but the the uh i i also uh trying to tell them they said can we use wi-fi i said no because there's too many people next over the road who said that's why my door tried to break in i've seen them do it so why do it either i put the radio on and i transmit and it would be scattered like no red bits especially on on 30 meters okay so there's a couple ways around that peter you can actually you can actually make it a private wi-fi connection you can make it not transmit the ssid and in my case anyway and i guess your modem can do it too you can allow connections only from network devices that you recognize and that is my mac address that will be done yeah uh uh but i also do well then nobody should be able to break in if they if they don't see your ssid no no they but uh i i was trying to explain to them that i don't put it on and they don't think he didn't understand that i told him a number of times uh about that and they do seem to want to understand uh so um good it could have been this the switch has been a bit uh no good to switch it's probably intermittent somewhere because it goes intermittent every so often it causes a crash possible but so my first question is your wi-fi is coming from the uh from the bt supply device or is it coming from your own route it comes from a bt line and it goes up into a wire then it goes into the thing okay so the first thing i would do is first thing i would disable that in the bt router and then i would go get another router like a netgear or a microtech or something like that plug that into your bt router and then let the microtech um or whatever router you get let that provide the wi-fi for you so that all the telecom modem is doing is literally just providing you an internet connection and then you manage the network from there in and also if he uh if he uh when he turns off the wi-fi from the bta router and in in the new router if he uses the same ssid and the same password as the bt router has then he doesn't need to then all of the uh existing devices will automatically start using the new uh the new device and he doesn't have to set up anything yeah but but i'm i've picked my own my own ssid and set my own password so separate from the internet device i'm not an expert are you not because i i i'm i'm just i i started very late in life about the networking system so and uh the uh uh the roco box in there there's an ssd god what did they do i have not had a lot of luck with the sd card in the roku peter well what's supposed to happen is as you cycle through all the channels in the roku what's supposed to happen is that you know each each channel that you can select at the main menu of the roku typically has its own list of channels inside the application like netflix has all of its um all of its channels inside the application youtube does as well and there's various others and what the sd card is supposed to do when when i was able to make twitch work it doesn't work on roku anymore unless anyone knows a way to make that work but um twitch used to have its own set of channels as well and um the sd card was supposed to record those so it didn't have to re-download them every time you switched from like netflix to to twitch or or whatever but i found that not to work very well i found that what happens is that it tends to use what's in the sd card regardless of whether the channel is changed on the service or not so that you can so you go back to twitch and then it says yeah well here's what i've got out of the sd card i'm not going to tell you what the service is offering because i think the sd card is better so i would not use an sd card is what i would recommend peter i would not use the sd card what did the usb port do as well uh the first time i picked the thing up and actually look at it because this is one of the things i turned off when i try to find the full what is the uh right people doing there don't recall i don't recall there being a usb port but there should be an ethernet connector on the roku and we're running out of time so we we are running out of time to go any further