1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,110 hello this 2 00:00:03,110 --> 00:00:03,120 hello this 3 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,470 hello this is category 5 um community coffee break 4 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:06,480 is category 5 um community coffee break 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,390 is category 5 um community coffee break i'm bp 9. hello above me is uh is doug 6 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:10,400 i'm bp 9. hello above me is uh is doug 7 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,870 i'm bp 9. hello above me is uh is doug give us a wave doug thank you sir and 8 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:12,880 give us a wave doug thank you sir and 9 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,030 give us a wave doug thank you sir and then to his left on my screen well he's 10 00:00:15,030 --> 00:00:15,040 then to his left on my screen well he's 11 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,670 then to his left on my screen well he's left on my screen over there 12 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:17,680 left on my screen over there 13 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,310 left on my screen over there oh i can't get it right that's peter 14 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:20,320 oh i can't get it right that's peter 15 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,109 oh i can't get it right that's peter give us away 16 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:21,119 give us away 17 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:23,670 give us away peter thank you sir and then solberg to 18 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:23,680 peter thank you sir and then solberg to 19 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,470 peter thank you sir and then solberg to my 20 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:24,480 my 21 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,150 my oh i did it right this time look at that 22 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:26,160 oh i did it right this time look at that 23 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,870 oh i did it right this time look at that thank you selby good to see you 24 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:28,880 thank you selby good to see you 25 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,269 thank you selby good to see you uh welcome to community coffee break we 26 00:00:31,269 --> 00:00:31,279 uh welcome to community coffee break we 27 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:32,549 uh welcome to community coffee break we were having an interesting 28 00:00:32,549 --> 00:00:32,559 were having an interesting 29 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:33,830 were having an interesting pre-discussion 30 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:33,840 pre-discussion 31 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,030 pre-discussion um and uh i have some i have some 32 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:37,040 um and uh i have some i have some 33 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,150 um and uh i have some i have some questions for you so 34 00:00:38,150 --> 00:00:38,160 questions for you so 35 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:42,549 questions for you so boo um we talked about mail server way 36 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:42,559 boo um we talked about mail server way 37 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:43,590 boo um we talked about mail server way back when 38 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:43,600 back when 39 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,510 back when yeah about running your own mail server 40 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:45,520 yeah about running your own mail server 41 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,190 yeah about running your own mail server and i never did pick up with you about 42 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:47,200 and i never did pick up with you about 43 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,869 and i never did pick up with you about that so i wanted to talk to you about 44 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:48,879 that so i wanted to talk to you about 45 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:50,389 that so i wanted to talk to you about that a little bit 46 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:50,399 that a little bit 47 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:52,229 that a little bit i don't have a lot going on here i've 48 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:52,239 i don't have a lot going on here i've 49 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:53,750 i don't have a lot going on here i've got some stuff going on at work but 50 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:53,760 got some stuff going on at work but 51 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,310 got some stuff going on at work but that's 52 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:54,320 that's 53 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,790 that's nothing to do with this um it's 54 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:56,800 nothing to do with this um it's 55 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,110 nothing to do with this um it's consuming some of my time so 56 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:59,120 consuming some of my time so 57 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,950 consuming some of my time so uh not much going on this past week um 58 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:02,960 uh not much going on this past week um 59 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,910 uh not much going on this past week um otherwise i wanted to talk to you and if 60 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:05,920 otherwise i wanted to talk to you and if 61 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,670 otherwise i wanted to talk to you and if anyone else wants to jump in please do 62 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:07,680 anyone else wants to jump in please do 63 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,630 anyone else wants to jump in please do but um 64 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:08,640 but um 65 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,350 but um i wanted to talk to you sobu about about 66 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:11,360 i wanted to talk to you sobu about about 67 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:11,990 i wanted to talk to you sobu about about running your 68 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:12,000 running your 69 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,830 running your own mail server what are the pros and 70 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:13,840 own mail server what are the pros and 71 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,350 own mail server what are the pros and cons what did you have to do to get that 72 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:15,360 cons what did you have to do to get that 73 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,550 cons what did you have to do to get that working 74 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:16,560 working 75 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,870 working uh i did it once for a company that i 76 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:18,880 uh i did it once for a company that i 77 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,670 uh i did it once for a company that i worked for 78 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:19,680 worked for 79 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,550 worked for two or three jobs ago four or five jobs 80 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:22,560 two or three jobs ago four or five jobs 81 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,429 two or three jobs ago four or five jobs ago 82 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:23,439 ago 83 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,310 ago a long time ago anyway one of the things 84 00:01:26,310 --> 00:01:26,320 a long time ago anyway one of the things 85 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,390 a long time ago anyway one of the things that surprised me was how 86 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:28,400 that surprised me was how 87 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,390 that surprised me was how the most the logging is how much is 88 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:30,400 the most the logging is how much is 89 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,550 the most the logging is how much is exposed in the logging that's 90 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:32,560 exposed in the logging that's 91 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,590 exposed in the logging that's that was very disconcerting for me so it 92 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:35,600 that was very disconcerting for me so it 93 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,109 that was very disconcerting for me so it shows this 94 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:37,119 shows this 95 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,590 shows this i'm sure that my internet provider can 96 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:39,600 i'm sure that my internet provider can 97 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,670 i'm sure that my internet provider can see all kinds of stuff in my about my 98 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:41,680 see all kinds of stuff in my about my 99 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,749 see all kinds of stuff in my about my emails 100 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:43,759 emails 101 00:01:43,759 --> 00:01:46,870 emails so anyway yes 102 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:46,880 so anyway yes 103 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,710 so anyway yes it for me it started 20 years ago this 104 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:50,720 it for me it started 20 years ago this 105 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,230 it for me it started 20 years ago this year 106 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:52,240 year 107 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,510 year when i registered my uh 108 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:55,520 when i registered my uh 109 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,109 when i registered my uh domain name uh subgood.net um 110 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:59,119 domain name uh subgood.net um 111 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:02,069 domain name uh subgood.net um and um i used name xero that they were 112 00:02:02,069 --> 00:02:02,079 and um i used name xero that they were 113 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:02,870 and um i used name xero that they were called back then 114 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:02,880 called back then 115 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,910 called back then for um as they did as they selling 116 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:05,920 for um as they did as they selling 117 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,469 for um as they did as they selling registered and they had email service as 118 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:08,479 registered and they had email service as 119 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:09,830 registered and they had email service as part of the package 120 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:09,840 part of the package 121 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,270 part of the package um but um after about a year 122 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:13,280 um but um after about a year 123 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,589 um but um after about a year i was fed up by the uh 124 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:17,599 i was fed up by the uh 125 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:20,390 i was fed up by the uh amount of spam i remember this was 126 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:20,400 amount of spam i remember this was 127 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,710 amount of spam i remember this was already 20 years ago and the spam 128 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:22,720 already 20 years ago and the spam 129 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,390 already 20 years ago and the spam amount was nowhere near oh yeah 130 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:26,400 amount was nowhere near oh yeah 131 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,869 amount was nowhere near oh yeah but but already back then i had a 132 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:28,879 but but already back then i had a 133 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:32,229 but but already back then i had a hundred spam emails a day 134 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:32,239 hundred spam emails a day 135 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:35,830 hundred spam emails a day um so um i found i 136 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:35,840 um so um i found i 137 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,630 um so um i found i decided that i was going to try to that 138 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:38,640 decided that i was going to try to that 139 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,390 decided that i was going to try to that i was going to move uh 140 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:40,400 i was going to move uh 141 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,390 i was going to move uh to self-hosting so i uh configured the 142 00:02:44,390 --> 00:02:44,400 to self-hosting so i uh configured the 143 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,910 to self-hosting so i uh configured the postfix that i still use 144 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:47,920 postfix that i still use 145 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:52,390 postfix that i still use it's easy to set up you have to uh 146 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:52,400 it's easy to set up you have to uh 147 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,790 it's easy to set up you have to uh in order to keep the spam amount down uh 148 00:02:54,790 --> 00:02:54,800 in order to keep the spam amount down uh 149 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,229 in order to keep the spam amount down uh you need to configure us 150 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:56,239 you need to configure us 151 00:02:56,239 --> 00:02:59,830 you need to configure us a few real-time black lists that 152 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:59,840 a few real-time black lists that 153 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,110 a few real-time black lists that it's the term yeah assassin or something 154 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:03,120 it's the term yeah assassin or something 155 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,670 it's the term yeah assassin or something or 156 00:03:03,670 --> 00:03:03,680 or 157 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,790 or yeah no uh spammers 158 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:06,800 yeah no uh spammers 159 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,030 yeah no uh spammers that's a local uh spam fighting but um 160 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:09,040 that's a local uh spam fighting but um 161 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,430 that's a local uh spam fighting but um you are checking a spam house and spam 162 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:11,440 you are checking a spam house and spam 163 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:11,830 you are checking a spam house and spam cop 164 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:11,840 cop 165 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,110 cop and a few others on yeah 166 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:15,120 and a few others on yeah 167 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,710 and a few others on yeah um and that was basically it um yeah you 168 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:18,720 um and that was basically it um yeah you 169 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,670 um and that was basically it um yeah you needed to have a 170 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:19,680 needed to have a 171 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,550 needed to have a uh an account on the system running the 172 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:22,560 uh an account on the system running the 173 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,430 uh an account on the system running the mail server 174 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:23,440 mail server 175 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,830 mail server which i have and then that's all there 176 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:25,840 which i have and then that's all there 177 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,350 which i have and then that's all there is to it 178 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:27,360 is to it 179 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,229 is to it so the the server must be contactable 180 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:30,239 so the the server must be contactable 181 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:31,990 so the the server must be contactable from outside your network right 182 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:32,000 from outside your network right 183 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,229 from outside your network right so yeah so the incoming port 25 184 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:36,239 so yeah so the incoming port 25 185 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:39,270 so yeah so the incoming port 25 need to be open and these days also um 186 00:03:39,270 --> 00:03:39,280 need to be open and these days also um 187 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,229 need to be open and these days also um two other ports let me check that 188 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:44,239 two other ports let me check that 189 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:47,430 two other ports let me check that i don't remember it in my head 190 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:47,440 i don't remember it in my head 191 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,830 i don't remember it in my head so i'm portraying my gateway to find the 192 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:49,840 so i'm portraying my gateway to find the 193 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,869 so i'm portraying my gateway to find the uh 194 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:50,879 uh 195 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:54,070 uh oh okay so presumably you set your 196 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:54,080 oh okay so presumably you set your 197 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,470 oh okay so presumably you set your uh internet modem to bridging mode to to 198 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:56,480 uh internet modem to bridging mode to to 199 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,910 uh internet modem to bridging mode to to allow you to 200 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:57,920 allow you to 201 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,949 allow you to uh to do the nat um 202 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:00,959 uh to do the nat um 203 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:03,110 uh to do the nat um the network address translation or to 204 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:03,120 the network address translation or to 205 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,990 the network address translation or to port forward 206 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:04,000 port forward 207 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,270 port forward that that port in from outside is that 208 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:07,280 that that port in from outside is that 209 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:07,830 that that port in from outside is that true 210 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:07,840 true 211 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,949 true yeah and there's two ways to do that one 212 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:10,959 yeah and there's two ways to do that one 213 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:11,750 yeah and there's two ways to do that one is to have the 214 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:11,760 is to have the 215 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,990 is to have the modem in a bridge which i do because i 216 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:14,000 modem in a bridge which i do because i 217 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,030 modem in a bridge which i do because i need the 218 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:15,040 need the 219 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,150 need the actual uh local system to have uh 220 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:18,160 actual uh local system to have uh 221 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,150 actual uh local system to have uh the public uh public ip 222 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:22,160 the public uh public ip 223 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,790 the public uh public ip and that system is doing all the writing 224 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:24,800 and that system is doing all the writing 225 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,909 and that system is doing all the writing and then 226 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:25,919 and then 227 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:29,510 and then that translation and so on okay um 228 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:29,520 that translation and so on okay um 229 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,030 that translation and so on okay um what um 995 yeah 230 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:33,040 what um 995 yeah 231 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,070 what um 995 yeah no um oh is that the ssl 232 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:36,080 no um oh is that the ssl 233 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,550 no um oh is that the ssl port for mail 234 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:40,560 235 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,469 i'm not sure i have that open 236 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:44,479 237 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:47,830 yeah but there are three ports 238 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:47,840 yeah but there are three ports 239 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:51,110 yeah but there are three ports um 425 and there's two other parts 240 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:51,120 um 425 and there's two other parts 241 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,230 um 425 and there's two other parts um that is uh one is the smtps port and 242 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:54,240 um that is uh one is the smtps port and 243 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,070 um that is uh one is the smtps port and one is the um 244 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:56,080 one is the um 245 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,870 one is the um uh authentication port uh which is those 246 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:58,880 uh authentication port uh which is those 247 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,909 uh authentication port uh which is those uh 248 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:59,919 uh 249 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:04,230 uh to put our ssl 250 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:04,240 251 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,590 encrypted so um um 252 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:07,600 encrypted so um um 253 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,590 encrypted so um um if under the 254 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:11,600 255 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,150 is used if you have an outside clients 256 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:14,160 is used if you have an outside clients 257 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,230 is used if you have an outside clients like if you have a mobile phone or a 258 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:16,240 like if you have a mobile phone or a 259 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,430 like if you have a mobile phone or a laptop to put a laptop and you're 260 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:19,440 laptop to put a laptop and you're 261 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,430 laptop to put a laptop and you're in at a friend's house and you need to 262 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:21,440 in at a friend's house and you need to 263 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,950 in at a friend's house and you need to check your email then you can use your 264 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:22,960 check your email then you can use your 265 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,870 check your email then you can use your uh you can use your 266 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:24,880 uh you can use your 267 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,469 uh you can use your laptop to or your mobile phone to send 268 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:28,479 laptop to or your mobile phone to send 269 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:28,790 laptop to or your mobile phone to send an 270 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:28,800 an 271 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,590 an email via your router which is at home 272 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:31,600 email via your router which is at home 273 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,189 email via your router which is at home when you're not that you would need for 274 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:33,199 when you're not that you would need for 275 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:35,110 when you're not that you would need for that you would use an imac connection 276 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:35,120 that you would use an imac connection 277 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,990 that you would use an imac connection right you would 278 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:36,000 right you would 279 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,590 right you would you wouldn't no you can use a pop you 280 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:37,600 you wouldn't no you can use a pop you 281 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,830 you wouldn't no you can use a pop you can use the um 282 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:39,840 can use the um 283 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,749 can use the um the same type of authentication as if 284 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:41,759 the same type of authentication as if 285 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:44,390 the same type of authentication as if you're using uh gml or outlook but 286 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:44,400 you're using uh gml or outlook but 287 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,390 you're using uh gml or outlook but you're not using imap oh okay okay 288 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:48,400 you're not using imap oh okay okay 289 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,430 you're not using imap oh okay okay so um um okay 290 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:51,440 so um um okay 291 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,830 so um um okay so but did the only thing then in that 292 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:53,840 so but did the only thing then in that 293 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:55,510 so but did the only thing then in that case you'd want to leave the mail on the 294 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:55,520 case you'd want to leave the mail on the 295 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,189 case you'd want to leave the mail on the server so that your main machine can 296 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:57,199 server so that your main machine can 297 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:59,110 server so that your main machine can retrieve that email for you 298 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:59,120 retrieve that email for you 299 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,309 retrieve that email for you for you yeah that is a setting 300 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:02,319 301 00:06:02,319 --> 00:06:05,350 i'm a client yeah okay and if you're 302 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:05,360 i'm a client yeah okay and if you're 303 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,670 i'm a client yeah okay and if you're using a pop fee to check your email then 304 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:07,680 using a pop fee to check your email then 305 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,790 using a pop fee to check your email then yeah you need to 306 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:08,800 yeah you need to 307 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,870 yeah you need to actively enable leaving the mail on the 308 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:10,880 actively enable leaving the mail on the 309 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,830 actively enable leaving the mail on the server because the deal 310 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:11,840 server because the deal 311 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,629 server because the deal is fetch the mail and delete it yes yes 312 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:14,639 is fetch the mail and delete it yes yes 313 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:15,350 is fetch the mail and delete it yes yes yes 314 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:15,360 yes 315 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,350 yes so yeah let's do that 316 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:19,360 317 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,990 one or two of the steps that one need to 318 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:22,000 one or two of the steps that one need to 319 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,390 one or two of the steps that one need to take 320 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:22,400 take 321 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,710 take in order to get in the mail into the 322 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:24,720 in order to get in the mail into the 323 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,830 in order to get in the mail into the server 324 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:25,840 server 325 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:29,909 server uh your mx records mail exchange records 326 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:29,919 uh your mx records mail exchange records 327 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:32,870 uh your mx records mail exchange records um dns records need to be pointed to 328 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:32,880 um dns records need to be pointed to 329 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,590 um dns records need to be pointed to your local um 330 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:35,600 your local um 331 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,710 your local um host name yeah that makes sense 332 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:38,720 host name yeah that makes sense 333 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,550 host name yeah that makes sense and if you have most people uh like 334 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:42,560 and if you have most people uh like 335 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,150 and if you have most people uh like most people have a dynamic ip meaning 336 00:06:46,150 --> 00:06:46,160 most people have a dynamic ip meaning 337 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,710 most people have a dynamic ip meaning you know if you restart the modem or the 338 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:48,720 you know if you restart the modem or the 339 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,830 you know if you restart the modem or the power is out for 340 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:49,840 power is out for 341 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,870 power is out for a few minutes and yeah then you have a 342 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:52,880 a few minutes and yeah then you have a 343 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,990 a few minutes and yeah then you have a new ipa 344 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:54,000 new ipa 345 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,350 new ipa and then you need to have a dynamic dns 346 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:57,360 and then you need to have a dynamic dns 347 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,029 and then you need to have a dynamic dns uh record um there is a very way to do 348 00:07:01,029 --> 00:07:01,039 uh record um there is a very way to do 349 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:03,110 uh record um there is a very way to do that most of my 350 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:03,120 that most of my 351 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,670 that most of my most of those pieces are in place for me 352 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:05,680 most of those pieces are in place for me 353 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,469 most of those pieces are in place for me um 354 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:06,479 um 355 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:09,909 um i own two or three domains 356 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:09,919 i own two or three domains 357 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:13,189 i own two or three domains but i'm using the uh the 358 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:13,199 but i'm using the uh the 359 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:18,230 but i'm using the uh the internet providers mail server for that 360 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:18,240 internet providers mail server for that 361 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,710 internet providers mail server for that so any mail that comes in any email that 362 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:20,720 so any mail that comes in any email that 363 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,790 so any mail that comes in any email that comes into those domains 364 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:22,800 comes into those domains 365 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,870 comes into those domains um will be handled there 366 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:26,880 um will be handled there 367 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,710 um will be handled there for me to for me to retrieve um 368 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:30,720 for me to for me to retrieve um 369 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,150 for me to for me to retrieve um i understand about the mx changing the 370 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:34,160 i understand about the mx changing the 371 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,230 i understand about the mx changing the the actual uh mail server addresses 372 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:38,240 the actual uh mail server addresses 373 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,710 the actual uh mail server addresses uh i have a i have static ip address 374 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:40,720 uh i have a i have static ip address 375 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,270 uh i have a i have static ip address here um a static upgrade a p address 376 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:43,280 here um a static upgrade a p address 377 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,629 here um a static upgrade a p address block here so 378 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:44,639 block here so 379 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:46,790 block here so and my internet is so much more reliable 380 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:46,800 and my internet is so much more reliable 381 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,230 and my internet is so much more reliable now i don't know if i ever mentioned 382 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:48,240 now i don't know if i ever mentioned 383 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:48,790 now i don't know if i ever mentioned that but 384 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:48,800 that but 385 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,909 that but um finally the telecom tech came in 386 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:51,919 um finally the telecom tech came in 387 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:54,309 um finally the telecom tech came in after i complained about the internet 388 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:54,319 after i complained about the internet 389 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:55,589 after i complained about the internet dropping all the time 390 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:55,599 dropping all the time 391 00:07:55,599 --> 00:07:58,869 dropping all the time um especially on an incoming phone call 392 00:07:58,869 --> 00:07:58,879 um especially on an incoming phone call 393 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,350 um especially on an incoming phone call the problem was that my dsl is coming in 394 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:01,360 the problem was that my dsl is coming in 395 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,710 the problem was that my dsl is coming in on the same line 396 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:02,720 on the same line 397 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,710 on the same line as the parts the plain old telephone 398 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:04,720 as the parts the plain old telephone 399 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,909 as the parts the plain old telephone connection 400 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:05,919 connection 401 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:09,749 connection and so every time an incoming phone call 402 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:09,759 and so every time an incoming phone call 403 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,110 and so every time an incoming phone call my internet would drop 404 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:13,120 my internet would drop 405 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,589 my internet would drop they didn't give you a filter no 406 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:15,599 they didn't give you a filter no 407 00:08:15,599 --> 00:08:16,150 they didn't give you a filter no actually 408 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:16,160 actually 409 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,710 actually this is uh this is a newer dsl that does 410 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:18,720 this is uh this is a newer dsl that does 411 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,110 this is uh this is a newer dsl that does not require the filters peter 412 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:21,120 not require the filters peter 413 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,150 not require the filters peter i had the old dsl i had the old dsl 414 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:24,160 i had the old dsl i had the old dsl 415 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,469 i had the old dsl i had the old dsl which is much slower and 416 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:26,479 which is much slower and 417 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:29,510 which is much slower and the the local telecom here 418 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:29,520 the the local telecom here 419 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,990 the the local telecom here basically forced the issue and said it's 420 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:32,000 basically forced the issue and said it's 421 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,509 basically forced the issue and said it's time to upgrade you don't have any 422 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:33,519 time to upgrade you don't have any 423 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:34,790 time to upgrade you don't have any choice anymore 424 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:34,800 choice anymore 425 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,190 choice anymore because the old dsl was working fine 426 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:37,200 because the old dsl was working fine 427 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,350 because the old dsl was working fine with all the filters in place 428 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:39,360 with all the filters in place 429 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,389 with all the filters in place the this new dsl it's it's 18 t 430 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:42,399 the this new dsl it's it's 18 t 431 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:45,670 the this new dsl it's it's 18 t u-verse this new dsl has a big old 432 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:45,680 u-verse this new dsl has a big old 433 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:46,550 u-verse this new dsl has a big old router 434 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:46,560 router 435 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,590 router um which which they'd love it if you use 436 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:49,600 um which which they'd love it if you use 437 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,509 um which which they'd love it if you use their wi-fi and all that but i don't do 438 00:08:51,509 --> 00:08:51,519 their wi-fi and all that but i don't do 439 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:52,470 their wi-fi and all that but i don't do any of that 440 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:52,480 any of that 441 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,910 any of that because i don't want to expose all of my 442 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:55,920 because i don't want to expose all of my 443 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,030 because i don't want to expose all of my uh internal network machines to 444 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:59,040 uh internal network machines to 445 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,670 uh internal network machines to to att's network because that's what 446 00:09:01,670 --> 00:09:01,680 to att's network because that's what 447 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:03,350 to att's network because that's what happened so what i've done 448 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:03,360 happened so what i've done 449 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,070 happened so what i've done is i've put a wi-fi router in front you 450 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:06,080 is i've put a wi-fi router in front you 451 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,550 is i've put a wi-fi router in front you know 452 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:06,560 know 453 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,670 know in between the the uh 454 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:09,680 in between the the uh 455 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:12,550 in between the the uh telecom router and my network and all 456 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:12,560 telecom router and my network and all 457 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,389 telecom router and my network and all they see is just the router that's it 458 00:09:14,389 --> 00:09:14,399 they see is just the router that's it 459 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:14,790 they see is just the router that's it yeah 460 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:14,800 yeah 461 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,150 yeah so um i have not yet bridged 462 00:09:18,150 --> 00:09:18,160 so um i have not yet bridged 463 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,829 so um i have not yet bridged the modem that's going to be my next 464 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:19,839 the modem that's going to be my next 465 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:22,470 the modem that's going to be my next step i'm too scared to do that 466 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:22,480 step i'm too scared to do that 467 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,230 step i'm too scared to do that i'm afraid if i do that everything just 468 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:24,240 i'm afraid if i do that everything just 469 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,470 i'm afraid if i do that everything just goes uh you know we'll just go belly up 470 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:26,480 goes uh you know we'll just go belly up 471 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,150 goes uh you know we'll just go belly up and i don't want to i don't want to risk 472 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:28,160 and i don't want to i don't want to risk 473 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:28,630 and i don't want to i don't want to risk that 474 00:09:28,630 --> 00:09:28,640 that 475 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,870 that but uh i guess i'll have to try it 476 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:30,880 but uh i guess i'll have to try it 477 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,710 but uh i guess i'll have to try it sometime just to see if i want it if i 478 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:32,720 sometime just to see if i want it if i 479 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:43,509 sometime just to see if i want it if i want to do that 480 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:43,519 481 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,150 um as you are using a dslr connection 482 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:46,160 um as you are using a dslr connection 483 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,230 um as you are using a dslr connection yeah you might have to uh 484 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:48,240 yeah you might have to uh 485 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,910 yeah you might have to uh configure the uh your uh router that is 486 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:51,920 configure the uh your uh router that is 487 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,630 configure the uh your uh router that is going to be 488 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:52,640 going to be 489 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,829 going to be the the public uh facing uh system 490 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:55,839 the the public uh facing uh system 491 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:59,829 the the public uh facing uh system it might have to uh have some sort of uh 492 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:59,839 it might have to uh have some sort of uh 493 00:09:59,839 --> 00:10:02,230 it might have to uh have some sort of uh authentication mechanism towards the 494 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:02,240 authentication mechanism towards the 495 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,870 authentication mechanism towards the server that is there um 496 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:04,880 server that is there um 497 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,190 server that is there um most dsl connections have some sort of 498 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:07,200 most dsl connections have some sort of 499 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,150 most dsl connections have some sort of um 500 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:08,160 um 501 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,829 um username and password you don't know 502 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:09,839 username and password you don't know 503 00:10:09,839 --> 00:10:11,590 username and password you don't know about it to get up the line 504 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:11,600 about it to get up the line 505 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,470 about it to get up the line so the way this you go ahead peter i 506 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:14,480 so the way this you go ahead peter i 507 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,590 so the way this you go ahead peter i don't understand 508 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:15,600 don't understand 509 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,150 don't understand why don't you ever feel to be uh 510 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:18,160 why don't you ever feel to be uh 511 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,870 why don't you ever feel to be uh basically 512 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:18,880 basically 513 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,150 basically audio is between norton 3k and the 514 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:22,160 audio is between norton 3k and the 515 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,590 audio is between norton 3k and the uh internet is up about one mag and the 516 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:25,600 uh internet is up about one mag and the 517 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,829 uh internet is up about one mag and the filter to basically removes one from the 518 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:27,839 filter to basically removes one from the 519 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:29,269 filter to basically removes one from the other basically 520 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:29,279 other basically 521 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:33,030 other basically and the reason why peter is because um 522 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:33,040 and the reason why peter is because um 523 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,069 and the reason why peter is because um what the what the telecom tech did is 524 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:36,079 what the what the telecom tech did is 525 00:10:36,079 --> 00:10:36,550 what the what the telecom tech did is actually 526 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:36,560 actually 527 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,470 actually install the splitter at the very head of 528 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:38,480 install the splitter at the very head of 529 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,150 install the splitter at the very head of the line at the very 530 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:40,160 the line at the very 531 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,310 the line at the very at the very top of the line that 532 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:42,320 at the very top of the line that 533 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,910 at the very top of the line that separates out the 534 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:43,920 separates out the 535 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,269 separates out the pots line and the dsl line 536 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:47,279 pots line and the dsl line 537 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:50,230 pots line and the dsl line okay i'm down there yeah okay but even 538 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:50,240 okay i'm down there yeah okay but even 539 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,030 okay i'm down there yeah okay but even even 540 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:51,040 even 541 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,310 even so um even even with that 542 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:54,320 so um even even with that 543 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,150 so um even even with that hardware in place uh the 544 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:58,160 hardware in place uh the 545 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,150 hardware in place uh the as long as my dsl was on the same line 546 00:11:02,150 --> 00:11:02,160 as long as my dsl was on the same line 547 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,110 as long as my dsl was on the same line as my 548 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:03,120 as my 549 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,230 as my uh as my plain old telephone line it 550 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:06,240 uh as my plain old telephone line it 551 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,069 uh as my plain old telephone line it would uh it would keep dropping 552 00:11:08,069 --> 00:11:08,079 would uh it would keep dropping 553 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:09,990 would uh it would keep dropping the connection so what the telecom tech 554 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:10,000 the connection so what the telecom tech 555 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,269 the connection so what the telecom tech did is separated them out because i have 556 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:13,279 did is separated them out because i have 557 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,630 did is separated them out because i have i have four pair of uh of um 558 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:16,640 i have four pair of uh of um 559 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,590 i have four pair of uh of um of lines running to my house and only 560 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:19,600 of lines running to my house and only 561 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,590 of lines running to my house and only one was in use that had the dsl and the 562 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:21,600 one was in use that had the dsl and the 563 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,790 one was in use that had the dsl and the pots on it right 564 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:22,800 pots on it right 565 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,190 pots on it right so what he did is he separated out the 566 00:11:25,190 --> 00:11:25,200 so what he did is he separated out the 567 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,829 so what he did is he separated out the dsl 568 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:25,839 dsl 569 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:28,389 dsl into a separate pair left the pots on 570 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:28,399 into a separate pair left the pots on 571 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:29,269 into a separate pair left the pots on one line 572 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:29,279 one line 573 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:33,430 one line i got my dsl on a different pair and now 574 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:33,440 i got my dsl on a different pair and now 575 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,269 i got my dsl on a different pair and now now it's been soldered as a rock touch 576 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:35,279 now it's been soldered as a rock touch 577 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:37,590 now it's been soldered as a rock touch wood you watch you've come apart now you 578 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:37,600 wood you watch you've come apart now you 579 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,000 wood you watch you've come apart now you watch 580 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,010 watch 581 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:42,389 watch [Laughter] 582 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:42,399 583 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:45,110 as far as bridging the modems concerned 584 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:45,120 as far as bridging the modems concerned 585 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,389 as far as bridging the modems concerned um 586 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:46,399 um 587 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:49,430 um i don't know how it is with with your um 588 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:49,440 i don't know how it is with with your um 589 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,550 i don't know how it is with with your um internet modem but with mine it doesn't 590 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:52,560 internet modem but with mine it doesn't 591 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:53,670 internet modem but with mine it doesn't look like 592 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:53,680 look like 593 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,350 look like uh bridging is completely uh um 594 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:57,360 uh bridging is completely uh um 595 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,430 uh bridging is completely uh um 100 it doesn't look like it does it 596 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:01,440 100 it doesn't look like it does it 597 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,069 100 it doesn't look like it does it how do i want to put this there's still 598 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:04,079 how do i want to put this there's still 599 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:05,030 how do i want to put this there's still some pieces 600 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:05,040 some pieces 601 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,750 some pieces active in the modem even after i bridge 602 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:07,760 active in the modem even after i bridge 603 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,389 active in the modem even after i bridge it 604 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:08,399 it 605 00:12:08,399 --> 00:12:10,389 it and i think those pieces provide the 606 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:10,399 and i think those pieces provide the 607 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:11,670 and i think those pieces provide the authentication 608 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:11,680 authentication 609 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,069 authentication mechanism that you're talking about i 610 00:12:14,069 --> 00:12:14,079 mechanism that you're talking about i 611 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:15,829 mechanism that you're talking about i think they have to be there or otherwise 612 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:15,839 think they have to be there or otherwise 613 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:17,750 think they have to be there or otherwise the whole thing just comes apart 614 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:17,760 the whole thing just comes apart 615 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,110 the whole thing just comes apart so um so bridging the modem 616 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:21,120 so um so bridging the modem 617 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,269 so um so bridging the modem is not a com is not complete like i've 618 00:12:23,269 --> 00:12:23,279 is not a com is not complete like i've 619 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:24,790 is not a com is not complete like i've seen uh 620 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:24,800 seen uh 621 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,310 seen uh you know robbie talks about uh um 622 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:28,320 you know robbie talks about uh um 623 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,509 you know robbie talks about uh um bridging the modem at the at the studio 624 00:12:31,509 --> 00:12:31,519 bridging the modem at the at the studio 625 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,269 bridging the modem at the at the studio and it sounds like it's a complete 626 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:33,279 and it sounds like it's a complete 627 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:35,509 and it sounds like it's a complete bridge everything it's a fire hose 628 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:35,519 bridge everything it's a fire hose 629 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:36,870 bridge everything it's a fire hose everything that comes in 630 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:36,880 everything that comes in 631 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,990 everything that comes in hits your router right now whether he 632 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:40,000 hits your router right now whether he 633 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,750 hits your router right now whether he had to set up any kind of authentication 634 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:41,760 had to set up any kind of authentication 635 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,470 had to set up any kind of authentication i don't know 636 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:42,480 i don't know 637 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,670 i don't know but that is not true of this modem 638 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:45,680 but that is not true of this modem 639 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,470 but that is not true of this modem this modem is not a complete bridge some 640 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:48,480 this modem is not a complete bridge some 641 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,269 this modem is not a complete bridge some of the 642 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:49,279 of the 643 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:51,910 of the some of the traffic like the as you said 644 00:12:51,910 --> 00:12:51,920 some of the traffic like the as you said 645 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,150 some of the traffic like the as you said the authentication some of that 646 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:54,160 the authentication some of that 647 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,310 the authentication some of that i think is retained by the modem and 648 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:56,320 i think is retained by the modem and 649 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,069 i think is retained by the modem and keeps going like that that's 650 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:58,079 keeps going like that that's 651 00:12:58,079 --> 00:12:59,750 keeps going like that that's that's one of the things i've got to try 652 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:59,760 that's one of the things i've got to try 653 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,590 that's one of the things i've got to try i want to do that sometime when i 654 00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:01,600 i want to do that sometime when i 655 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,310 i want to do that sometime when i when i can tolerate i don't want to do 656 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:04,320 when i can tolerate i don't want to do 657 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,030 when i can tolerate i don't want to do it just before starting coffee break 658 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:07,040 it just before starting coffee break 659 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,710 it just before starting coffee break because i want the thing to work so 660 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:10,720 because i want the thing to work so 661 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,829 because i want the thing to work so tell me that the address 662 00:13:13,829 --> 00:13:13,839 tell me that the address 663 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:17,990 tell me that the address yeah in my case um in my case i had the 664 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:18,000 yeah in my case um in my case i had the 665 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,509 yeah in my case um in my case i had the fiber company to bridge some of them 666 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:21,519 fiber company to bridge some of them 667 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:24,550 fiber company to bridge some of them before i moved in um and 668 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:24,560 before i moved in um and 669 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,389 before i moved in um and in other cases there is a 670 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:28,399 in other cases there is a 671 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:30,230 in other cases there is a i think i can i could have done that 672 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:30,240 i think i can i could have done that 673 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,509 i think i can i could have done that after i moved in but 674 00:13:31,509 --> 00:13:31,519 after i moved in but 675 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:34,550 after i moved in but um in most modems uh you also can log 676 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:34,560 um in most modems uh you also can log 677 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:35,829 um in most modems uh you also can log into the other 678 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:35,839 into the other 679 00:13:35,839 --> 00:13:37,990 into the other configuration configuration interface 680 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:38,000 configuration configuration interface 681 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,910 configuration configuration interface and there is a checkbox 682 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:39,920 and there is a checkbox 683 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,790 and there is a checkbox but if the checkbox is not there that 684 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:42,800 but if the checkbox is not there that 685 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,750 but if the checkbox is not there that only means that 686 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:43,760 only means that 687 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,470 only means that the user account level that you have on 688 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:46,480 the user account level that you have on 689 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,670 the user account level that you have on your modem 690 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:47,680 your modem 691 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:51,590 your modem does not authorize you to uh makes uh 692 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:51,600 does not authorize you to uh makes uh 693 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,189 does not authorize you to uh makes uh certain changes and they're bridging it 694 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:53,199 certain changes and they're bridging it 695 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,269 certain changes and they're bridging it might be one of those i have logged into 696 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:55,279 might be one of those i have logged into 697 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:55,990 might be one of those i have logged into the modem 698 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:56,000 the modem 699 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,189 the modem and that checkbox is there um so it is 700 00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:59,199 and that checkbox is there um so it is 701 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,030 and that checkbox is there um so it is possible for me to bridge it so i have 702 00:14:01,030 --> 00:14:01,040 possible for me to bridge it so i have 703 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,710 possible for me to bridge it so i have no problem with that 704 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:02,720 no problem with that 705 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,990 no problem with that so doug what sort of trouble have you 706 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:06,000 so doug what sort of trouble have you 707 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,750 so doug what sort of trouble have you been up to you've been awfully quiet up 708 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:07,760 been up to you've been awfully quiet up 709 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,389 been up to you've been awfully quiet up there 710 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:08,399 there 711 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:10,710 there well i replaced that fan in my laptop 712 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:10,720 well i replaced that fan in my laptop 713 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,829 well i replaced that fan in my laptop and 714 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:11,839 and 715 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:14,310 and laptop that that laptop is what i'm on 716 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:14,320 laptop that that laptop is what i'm on 717 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,550 laptop that that laptop is what i'm on zoom with right now did you have any 718 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:16,560 zoom with right now did you have any 719 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,189 zoom with right now did you have any problem with the operation 720 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:19,199 problem with the operation 721 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:21,509 problem with the operation not really i wound up having to tear the 722 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:21,519 not really i wound up having to tear the 723 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:23,110 not really i wound up having to tear the laptop apart 724 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:23,120 laptop apart 725 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,910 laptop apart almost entirely i think the only 726 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:25,920 almost entirely i think the only 727 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,829 almost entirely i think the only component i didn't remove was the ram 728 00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:27,839 component i didn't remove was the ram 729 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:29,030 component i didn't remove was the ram sticks 730 00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:29,040 sticks 731 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,550 sticks um yeah it was it was quite a job took 732 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:32,560 um yeah it was it was quite a job took 733 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,550 um yeah it was it was quite a job took about an hour 734 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:34,560 about an hour 735 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,110 about an hour like that character partnership yeah 736 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:37,120 like that character partnership yeah 737 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,150 like that character partnership yeah yeah but but 738 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:38,160 yeah but but 739 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,710 yeah but but uh how similar was it to robbie's 740 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:40,720 uh how similar was it to robbie's 741 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,389 uh how similar was it to robbie's experience on his um 742 00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:42,399 experience on his um 743 00:14:42,399 --> 00:14:45,590 experience on his um on his show i think his whole process 744 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:45,600 on his show i think his whole process 745 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,069 on his show i think his whole process took about half as long as mine did 746 00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:48,079 took about half as long as mine did 747 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:50,550 took about half as long as mine did well yeah he's probably done it a few 748 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:50,560 well yeah he's probably done it a few 749 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,269 well yeah he's probably done it a few times too 750 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:51,279 times too 751 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:54,790 times too so yeah yeah and it was obvious that the 752 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:54,800 so yeah yeah and it was obvious that the 753 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,189 so yeah yeah and it was obvious that the i did a youtube video to um 754 00:14:59,189 --> 00:14:59,199 i did a youtube video to um 755 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,110 i did a youtube video to um to know how to do this because i could 756 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:01,120 to know how to do this because i could 757 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,150 to know how to do this because i could find one that was specific to my laptop 758 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:04,160 find one that was specific to my laptop 759 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,110 find one that was specific to my laptop that's nice if you if i tried using 760 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:07,120 that's nice if you if i tried using 761 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,269 that's nice if you if i tried using robbie's video it's not specific to my 762 00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:09,279 robbie's video it's not specific to my 763 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:10,389 robbie's video it's not specific to my laptop 764 00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:10,399 laptop 765 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,629 laptop there may be things i wouldn't know 766 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:12,639 there may be things i wouldn't know 767 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:13,509 there may be things i wouldn't know about 768 00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:13,519 about 769 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:15,910 about yes now were you able to just replace 770 00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:15,920 yes now were you able to just replace 771 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,509 yes now were you able to just replace the fan or did you have to replace the 772 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:17,519 the fan or did you have to replace the 773 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:19,430 the fan or did you have to replace the entire cooling mechanism that leads up 774 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:19,440 entire cooling mechanism that leads up 775 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,710 entire cooling mechanism that leads up to the cpu 776 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:20,720 to the cpu 777 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,350 to the cpu just the fan the cooling mechanism and 778 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:23,360 just the fan the cooling mechanism and 779 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,430 just the fan the cooling mechanism and the heatsink on the bridge were separate 780 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:25,440 the heatsink on the bridge were separate 781 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,230 the heatsink on the bridge were separate from the fan 782 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:26,240 from the fan 783 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,189 from the fan oh nice that should have made it easier 784 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:29,199 oh nice that should have made it easier 785 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:31,269 oh nice that should have made it easier for you i would think 786 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:31,279 for you i would think 787 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,670 for you i would think yeah yeah it was a whole lot easier yeah 788 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:33,680 yeah yeah it was a whole lot easier yeah 789 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,389 yeah yeah it was a whole lot easier yeah the heatsink on the cpu was 790 00:15:36,389 --> 00:15:36,399 the heatsink on the cpu was 791 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:39,590 the heatsink on the cpu was um actually a little piece of copper 792 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:39,600 um actually a little piece of copper 793 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,189 um actually a little piece of copper that wound around back to the fan okay 794 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:43,199 that wound around back to the fan okay 795 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:46,470 that wound around back to the fan okay okay i remember 20 years ago i was 796 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:46,480 okay i remember 20 years ago i was 797 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,310 okay i remember 20 years ago i was visiting some friends in 798 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:48,320 visiting some friends in 799 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,749 visiting some friends in my home 800 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:51,759 my home 801 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:55,430 my home city and which is uh next to here 802 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:55,440 city and which is uh next to here 803 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,470 city and which is uh next to here uh they um had an old radio 804 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:58,480 uh they um had an old radio 805 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,749 uh they um had an old radio um that didn't work and i 806 00:16:01,749 --> 00:16:01,759 um that didn't work and i 807 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,710 um that didn't work and i asked if i could uh uh open it and see 808 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:04,720 asked if i could uh uh open it and see 809 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,350 asked if i could uh uh open it and see and 810 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:05,360 and 811 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,350 and to see if i could fix it yeah sure so 812 00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:07,360 to see if i could fix it yeah sure so 813 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,030 to see if i could fix it yeah sure so they gave me some screwdrivers and i 814 00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:09,040 they gave me some screwdrivers and i 815 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,910 they gave me some screwdrivers and i open it 816 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:09,920 open it 817 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,590 open it and then open the back and then there 818 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:11,600 and then open the back and then there 819 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,590 and then open the back and then there was the uh circuit board 820 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:13,600 was the uh circuit board 821 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,910 was the uh circuit board and i screwed up a screw off all the 822 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:15,920 and i screwed up a screw off all the 823 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,670 and i screwed up a screw off all the screws i found and that i could 824 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:17,680 screws i found and that i could 825 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,590 screws i found and that i could could see it but it's one screw that i 826 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:19,600 could see it but it's one screw that i 827 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,710 could see it but it's one screw that i didn't find 828 00:16:20,710 --> 00:16:20,720 didn't find 829 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,550 didn't find apparently because it still was attached 830 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:22,560 apparently because it still was attached 831 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,470 apparently because it still was attached to something 832 00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:24,480 to something 833 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,790 to something and as i couldn't find it then i gave up 834 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:26,800 and as i couldn't find it then i gave up 835 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,150 and as i couldn't find it then i gave up and i screwed everything back 836 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:28,160 and i screwed everything back 837 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,470 and i screwed everything back and already worked i'm not surprised 838 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:30,480 and already worked i'm not surprised 839 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,230 and already worked i'm not surprised i've had i've done that before 840 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:32,240 i've had i've done that before 841 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,150 i've had i've done that before i have done that with with electronic 842 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:34,160 i have done that with with electronic 843 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,389 i have done that with with electronic components 844 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:36,399 components 845 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,629 components where i've literally just taken it apart 846 00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:38,639 where i've literally just taken it apart 847 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:40,069 where i've literally just taken it apart put it all back together 848 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:40,079 put it all back together 849 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:42,150 put it all back together and the thing just starts working yeah 850 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:42,160 and the thing just starts working yeah 851 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,829 and the thing just starts working yeah and i didn't and i didn't disconnect a 852 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:43,839 and i didn't and i didn't disconnect a 853 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:45,269 and i didn't and i didn't disconnect a single plug 854 00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:45,279 single plug 855 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:47,189 single plug right all i did was unscrew the back and 856 00:16:47,189 --> 00:16:47,199 right all i did was unscrew the back and 857 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:49,590 right all i did was unscrew the back and then four screws and there was a 858 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:49,600 then four screws and there was a 859 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,350 then four screws and there was a fifth screw inside that i didn't see it 860 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:51,360 fifth screw inside that i didn't see it 861 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,949 fifth screw inside that i didn't see it that could be no but you but you 862 00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:52,959 that could be no but you but you 863 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:54,230 that could be no but you but you unscrewed also 864 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:54,240 unscrewed also 865 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,550 unscrewed also the screws around the main board right 866 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:56,560 the screws around the main board right 867 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,990 the screws around the main board right around the pcb right 868 00:16:57,990 --> 00:16:58,000 around the pcb right 869 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,629 around the pcb right now yeah yeah well that's probably what 870 00:17:00,629 --> 00:17:00,639 now yeah yeah well that's probably what 871 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:01,990 now yeah yeah well that's probably what fixed it because 872 00:17:01,990 --> 00:17:02,000 fixed it because 873 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,590 fixed it because it would have been tarnish or something 874 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:03,600 it would have been tarnish or something 875 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,189 it would have been tarnish or something on the grounding posts 876 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:05,199 on the grounding posts 877 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:07,270 on the grounding posts by by unscrewing them screwing them back 878 00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:07,280 by by unscrewing them screwing them back 879 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,909 by by unscrewing them screwing them back on again you cleaned off that tarnish 880 00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:09,919 on again you cleaned off that tarnish 881 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:12,069 on again you cleaned off that tarnish made a good grounding connection and 882 00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:12,079 made a good grounding connection and 883 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:13,750 made a good grounding connection and probably started working at that 884 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:13,760 probably started working at that 885 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,429 probably started working at that now it'll probably crack out again at 886 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:15,439 now it'll probably crack out again at 887 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:21,429 now it'll probably crack out again at some point because it 888 00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:21,439 889 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:25,429 oh good good job well done 890 00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:25,439 oh good good job well done 891 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:27,029 oh good good job well done so if we're doing nothing out of us on 892 00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:27,039 so if we're doing nothing out of us on 893 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:29,990 so if we're doing nothing out of us on an excellent job 894 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:30,000 an excellent job 895 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,950 an excellent job this is this is the uh famous pine phone 896 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:32,960 this is this is the uh famous pine phone 897 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,990 this is this is the uh famous pine phone it's running 898 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:34,000 it's running 899 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,029 it's running now um the same distro arch linux that 900 00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:37,039 now um the same distro arch linux that 901 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:38,390 now um the same distro arch linux that i've had before 902 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:38,400 i've had before 903 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,669 i've had before seems to be working great um would i use 904 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:41,679 seems to be working great um would i use 905 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:44,310 seems to be working great um would i use it as a daily driver i'm not sure yet 906 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:44,320 it as a daily driver i'm not sure yet 907 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,549 it as a daily driver i'm not sure yet because i've i've been doing some 908 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:46,559 because i've i've been doing some 909 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:48,310 because i've i've been doing some research on this 910 00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:48,320 research on this 911 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,190 research on this and the usb c connector i don't know if 912 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:51,200 and the usb c connector i don't know if 913 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,430 and the usb c connector i don't know if that's going to come up at all on but 914 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:53,440 that's going to come up at all on but 915 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,830 that's going to come up at all on but i'm not going to yeah there it is you 916 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:55,840 i'm not going to yeah there it is you 917 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,750 i'm not going to yeah there it is you can see the edge of it yeah you could 918 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:57,760 can see the edge of it yeah you could 919 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,029 can see the edge of it yeah you could just see the edge of it 920 00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:59,039 just see the edge of it 921 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:02,789 just see the edge of it the usbc connector when i tried to 922 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:02,799 the usbc connector when i tried to 923 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:03,430 the usbc connector when i tried to connect 924 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:03,440 connect 925 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,789 connect a usbc to ethernet 926 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:06,799 a usbc to ethernet 927 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,270 a usbc to ethernet dongle to it it would not start it would 928 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:09,280 dongle to it it would not start it would 929 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,110 dongle to it it would not start it would not open up 930 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:11,120 not open up 931 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,789 not open up so i'm not sure if i'm going to have any 932 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:12,799 so i'm not sure if i'm going to have any 933 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:14,230 so i'm not sure if i'm going to have any good success 934 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:14,240 good success 935 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,070 good success with this and the dongle that i've still 936 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:16,080 with this and the dongle that i've still 937 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,350 with this and the dongle that i've still got coming 938 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:17,360 got coming 939 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,470 got coming and still on its way so i started 940 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:20,480 and still on its way so i started 941 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,669 and still on its way so i started researching on pine64 and it turns out 942 00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:23,679 researching on pine64 and it turns out 943 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:27,270 researching on pine64 and it turns out that this unit has a main board 944 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:27,280 that this unit has a main board 945 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,390 that this unit has a main board on it that has components that do not 946 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:30,400 on it that has components that do not 947 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,470 on it that has components that do not exactly 948 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:34,480 949 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,590 implement the usbc 950 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:37,600 implement the usbc 951 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,230 implement the usbc protocol even at the hardware level 952 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:40,240 protocol even at the hardware level 953 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,230 protocol even at the hardware level there are some sync transistors on there 954 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:42,240 there are some sync transistors on there 955 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,990 there are some sync transistors on there or something that are causing 956 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:44,000 or something that are causing 957 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,070 or something that are causing uh causing some pins to not have the 958 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:46,080 uh causing some pins to not have the 959 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,750 uh causing some pins to not have the correct status 960 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:47,760 correct status 961 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,150 correct status so i may be replacing the main board on 962 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:50,160 so i may be replacing the main board on 963 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:50,950 so i may be replacing the main board on this 964 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:50,960 this 965 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,190 this if i can find one at pine64 they're all 966 00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:53,200 if i can find one at pine64 they're all 967 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,350 if i can find one at pine64 they're all out of uh they're all out of stock 968 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:55,360 out of uh they're all out of stock 969 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:58,390 out of uh they're all out of stock um one of the one of the guys there one 970 00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:58,400 um one of the one of the guys there one 971 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,150 um one of the one of the guys there one of them actually the person who 972 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:00,160 of them actually the person who 973 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,270 of them actually the person who um who introduced us to the pine book uh 974 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:03,280 um who introduced us to the pine book uh 975 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,270 um who introduced us to the pine book uh to the pine book and the prime time and 976 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:05,280 to the pine book and the prime time and 977 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:05,750 to the pine book and the prime time and all that 978 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:05,760 all that 979 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,029 all that and the pine phone uh versus or 980 00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:09,039 and the pine phone uh versus or 981 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:10,630 and the pine phone uh versus or something is his name or eric or 982 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:10,640 something is his name or eric or 983 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,350 something is his name or eric or something is like something like that 984 00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:13,360 something is like something like that 985 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,070 something is like something like that he put up a video showing you how to 986 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:16,080 he put up a video showing you how to 987 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,870 he put up a video showing you how to remove 988 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:16,880 remove 989 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,950 remove those two capacitors without soldering 990 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:18,960 those two capacitors without soldering 991 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,470 those two capacitors without soldering or anything or those two 992 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:20,480 or anything or those two 993 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,950 or anything or those two transistors without soldering and it got 994 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:22,960 transistors without soldering and it got 995 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,990 transistors without soldering and it got his usb 996 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:24,000 his usb 997 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,029 his usb dongle working so i may try that i'm a 998 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:27,039 dongle working so i may try that i'm a 999 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:28,630 dongle working so i may try that i'm a little nervous about doing that but i 1000 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:28,640 little nervous about doing that but i 1001 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,510 little nervous about doing that but i may try that 1002 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:29,520 may try that 1003 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,510 may try that so we'll see what happens i'm going to 1004 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:31,520 so we'll see what happens i'm going to 1005 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,430 so we'll see what happens i'm going to try the usb dongle first and see what 1006 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:33,440 try the usb dongle first and see what 1007 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,630 try the usb dongle first and see what happens 1008 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:34,640 happens 1009 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,350 happens peter what have you been up to sir i'm 1010 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:37,360 peter what have you been up to sir i'm 1011 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,230 peter what have you been up to sir i'm not much uh 1012 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:38,240 not much uh 1013 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,870 not much uh i'm i'm waiting for still waiting up 1014 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:40,880 i'm i'm waiting for still waiting up 1015 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,909 i'm i'm waiting for still waiting up from uh 1016 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:41,919 from uh 1017 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,630 from uh ebay and amazon well particularly about 1018 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:44,640 ebay and amazon well particularly about 1019 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,150 ebay and amazon well particularly about the great problem with it ebay 1020 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:46,160 the great problem with it ebay 1021 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,430 the great problem with it ebay particularly 1022 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:47,440 particularly 1023 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,270 particularly i keep all the key ordering stuff 1024 00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:49,280 i keep all the key ordering stuff 1025 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,110 i keep all the key ordering stuff because of the problem i've read because 1026 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:51,120 because of the problem i've read because 1027 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,710 because of the problem i've read because of the border problem 1028 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:52,720 of the border problem 1029 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,630 of the border problem um you can't get up into this country 1030 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:56,640 um you can't get up into this country 1031 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,029 um you can't get up into this country so i've discovered a way of doing it by 1032 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:59,039 so i've discovered a way of doing it by 1033 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:02,630 so i've discovered a way of doing it by my younger brother 1034 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:02,640 1035 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,909 spain thank you too much now because you 1036 00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:05,919 spain thank you too much now because you 1037 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:06,310 spain thank you too much now because you know 1038 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:06,320 know 1039 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,149 know there might be some free letter agencies 1040 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:08,159 there might be some free letter agencies 1041 00:20:08,159 --> 00:20:09,510 there might be some free letter agencies who are listening in 1042 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:09,520 who are listening in 1043 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,789 who are listening in so well anyway 1044 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:12,799 so well anyway 1045 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:14,950 so well anyway so um when we do that we can get 1046 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:14,960 so um when we do that we can get 1047 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,870 so um when we do that we can get together here to get things sorted out 1048 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:16,880 together here to get things sorted out 1049 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,470 together here to get things sorted out again the boxes already out the other 1050 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:18,480 again the boxes already out the other 1051 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,950 again the boxes already out the other one i built so so we're waiting for 1052 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:20,960 one i built so so we're waiting for 1053 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,430 one i built so so we're waiting for pcb and all sorts of other stuff i 1054 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:23,440 pcb and all sorts of other stuff i 1055 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,630 pcb and all sorts of other stuff i didn't buy 1056 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:24,640 didn't buy 1057 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,750 didn't buy i did buy a a gps uh 1058 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:27,760 i did buy a a gps uh 1059 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,950 i did buy a a gps uh messenger uh i'm trying to tell uh 1060 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:30,960 messenger uh i'm trying to tell uh 1061 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,750 messenger uh i'm trying to tell uh the other day but basically it is a 1062 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:33,760 the other day but basically it is a 1063 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,510 the other day but basically it is a pre-running oscillator 1064 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:35,520 pre-running oscillator 1065 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,710 pre-running oscillator that uh runs at 10 megs and if i got 1066 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:38,720 that uh runs at 10 megs and if i got 1067 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,350 that uh runs at 10 megs and if i got looped 1068 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:39,360 looped 1069 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,470 looped onto uh ugps due to 1070 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:42,480 onto uh ugps due to 1071 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,470 onto uh ugps due to the uh atomic clocking gps thing to lock 1072 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:46,480 the uh atomic clocking gps thing to lock 1073 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,630 the uh atomic clocking gps thing to lock on the frequency 1074 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:48,640 on the frequency 1075 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,630 on the frequency what does that do for you peter it could 1076 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:50,640 what does that do for you peter it could 1077 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,270 what does that do for you peter it could be a frequency standard with one bar 1078 00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:53,280 be a frequency standard with one bar 1079 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,549 be a frequency standard with one bar in 10 to the seven ten by no 1080 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:56,559 in 10 to the seven ten by no 1081 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:58,230 in 10 to the seven ten by no right but are you using that as a time 1082 00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:58,240 right but are you using that as a time 1083 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,390 right but are you using that as a time base for your uh for the other machines 1084 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:00,400 base for your uh for the other machines 1085 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:07,750 base for your uh for the other machines in your network 1086 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:07,760 1087 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,830 so you're picking up the time the actual 1088 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:09,840 so you're picking up the time the actual 1089 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,310 so you're picking up the time the actual time of day from the gps satellites then 1090 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:12,320 time of day from the gps satellites then 1091 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,029 time of day from the gps satellites then right 1092 00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:13,039 right 1093 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,510 right yeah and you use it on the clock though 1094 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:15,520 yeah and you use it on the clock though 1095 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,590 yeah and you use it on the clock though there's a free running oscillator inside 1096 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:17,600 there's a free running oscillator inside 1097 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,510 there's a free running oscillator inside the box 1098 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:19,520 the box 1099 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,350 the box and that runs at uh roughly 10 megs and 1100 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:23,360 and that runs at uh roughly 10 megs and 1101 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,110 and that runs at uh roughly 10 megs and then the gps 1102 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:25,120 then the gps 1103 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,390 then the gps in satellite there's a atomic clock in 1104 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:28,400 in satellite there's a atomic clock in 1105 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,110 in satellite there's a atomic clock in there a 1106 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:29,120 there a 1107 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,230 there a rubidium probably and uh 1108 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:32,240 rubidium probably and uh 1109 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,669 rubidium probably and uh and then that um locks on to the 1110 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:35,679 and then that um locks on to the 1111 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:38,070 and then that um locks on to the base lock loops the oscillator back onto 1112 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:38,080 base lock loops the oscillator back onto 1113 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,510 base lock loops the oscillator back onto their max all the time 1114 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:39,520 their max all the time 1115 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,350 their max all the time well i get i get how you're looking for 1116 00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:41,360 well i get i get how you're looking for 1117 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,270 well i get i get how you're looking for a stable 10 megahertz signal 1118 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:43,280 a stable 10 megahertz signal 1119 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,950 a stable 10 megahertz signal but i'm still not sure about the time um 1120 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:46,960 but i'm still not sure about the time um 1121 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,110 but i'm still not sure about the time um the time from the gps how are you 1122 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:49,120 the time from the gps how are you 1123 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,350 the time from the gps how are you picking that up 1124 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:51,360 picking that up 1125 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,470 picking that up like that 1126 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:54,480 1127 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,510 oh i get i get that but what are you 1128 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:57,520 oh i get i get that but what are you 1129 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,430 oh i get i get that but what are you reading off the gps 1130 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:59,440 reading off the gps 1131 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,350 reading off the gps once you've once you're hearing a gps 1132 00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:01,360 once you've once you're hearing a gps 1133 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,350 once you've once you're hearing a gps signal what are you doing on that with 1134 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:03,360 signal what are you doing on that with 1135 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,230 signal what are you doing on that with that signal 1136 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:04,240 that signal 1137 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,710 that signal well when the extend gps signal they 1138 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:06,720 well when the extend gps signal they 1139 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,350 well when the extend gps signal they send 1140 00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:07,360 send 1141 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,950 send uh they they send their the 1142 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:10,960 uh they they send their the 1143 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,909 uh they they send their the locations and the test calls in it and 1144 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:13,919 locations and the test calls in it and 1145 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:16,310 locations and the test calls in it and they also then a clock frequency which 1146 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:16,320 they also then a clock frequency which 1147 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,710 they also then a clock frequency which is 1148 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:16,720 is 1149 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,510 is built inside the jeep themselves like 1150 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:19,520 built inside the jeep themselves like 1151 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,549 built inside the jeep themselves like which is right 1152 00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:20,559 which is right 1153 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,710 which is right which is very accurate and you'll turn 1154 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:22,720 which is very accurate and you'll turn 1155 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,149 which is very accurate and you'll turn that to lock onto the oscillator 1156 00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:26,159 that to lock onto the oscillator 1157 00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:28,070 that to lock onto the oscillator used to be bidding for what purpose 1158 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:28,080 used to be bidding for what purpose 1159 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,230 used to be bidding for what purpose though for what purpose though 1160 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:30,240 though for what purpose though 1161 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,789 though for what purpose though what are you using that time signal for 1162 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:32,799 what are you using that time signal for 1163 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:33,430 what are you using that time signal for at 1164 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:33,440 at 1165 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,990 at the very standard for a for measuring 1166 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:36,000 the very standard for a for measuring 1167 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,549 the very standard for a for measuring frequency and all sorts of other things 1168 00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:38,559 frequency and all sorts of other things 1169 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,789 frequency and all sorts of other things okay okay good better than the quest 1170 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:40,799 okay okay good better than the quest 1171 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,710 okay okay good better than the quest will be a lot better 1172 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:42,720 will be a lot better 1173 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,909 will be a lot better a lot of computer rabidian is a 1174 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:45,919 a lot of computer rabidian is a 1175 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:49,270 a lot of computer rabidian is a a um element where if if you 1176 00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:49,280 a um element where if if you 1177 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,310 a um element where if if you give it a a one off with two gigahertz 1178 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:54,320 give it a a one off with two gigahertz 1179 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,430 give it a a one off with two gigahertz the electrons come off 1180 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:57,440 the electrons come off 1181 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,990 the electrons come off or the other way around if you if you 1182 00:22:59,990 --> 00:23:00,000 or the other way around if you if you 1183 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,990 or the other way around if you if you put it in the tube and you eat it 1184 00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:02,000 put it in the tube and you eat it 1185 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,510 put it in the tube and you eat it electrons come off and every time 1186 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:03,520 electrons come off and every time 1187 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,750 electrons come off and every time electron comes off you create 1188 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:05,760 electron comes off you create 1189 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,190 electron comes off you create um you create a two gigahertz signal 1190 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:09,200 um you create a two gigahertz signal 1191 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,870 um you create a two gigahertz signal from right because because of the energy 1192 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:12,880 from right because because of the energy 1193 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,710 from right because because of the energy reserved all the time you know you can't 1194 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:14,720 reserved all the time you know you can't 1195 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,630 reserved all the time you know you can't make or break then you've got to go 1196 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:16,640 make or break then you've got to go 1197 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,630 make or break then you've got to go somewhere that goes up as rf 1198 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:18,640 somewhere that goes up as rf 1199 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,350 somewhere that goes up as rf and then they use that to frequency to 1200 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:21,360 and then they use that to frequency to 1201 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,310 and then they use that to frequency to divide down 1202 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:22,320 divide down 1203 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,149 divide down to lock on to 10x okay so it sounds like 1204 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:26,159 to lock on to 10x okay so it sounds like 1205 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:27,990 to lock on to 10x okay so it sounds like you're more interested in a stable 10 1206 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:28,000 you're more interested in a stable 10 1207 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,149 you're more interested in a stable 10 megahertz frequency than you are 1208 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:30,159 megahertz frequency than you are 1209 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,909 megahertz frequency than you are any data that you might be able to pull 1210 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:31,919 any data that you might be able to pull 1211 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:33,510 any data that you might be able to pull off the satellites right 1212 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:33,520 off the satellites right 1213 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,470 off the satellites right i i i get radio i got very poor thing to 1214 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:36,480 i i i get radio i got very poor thing to 1215 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,029 i i i get radio i got very poor thing to wear that's what i was laughing 1216 00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:39,039 wear that's what i was laughing 1217 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,470 wear that's what i was laughing the other day okay i get i'll sometimes 1218 00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:42,480 the other day okay i get i'll sometimes 1219 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,590 the other day okay i get i'll sometimes it works all right 1220 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:43,600 it works all right 1221 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,830 it works all right then if i pull the power off i lose the 1222 00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:45,840 then if i pull the power off i lose the 1223 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,789 then if i pull the power off i lose the signal and 1224 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:46,799 signal and 1225 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,390 signal and i have to wait a long time so it comes 1226 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:48,400 i have to wait a long time so it comes 1227 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,470 i have to wait a long time so it comes back again interesting 1228 00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:50,480 back again interesting 1229 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,070 back again interesting okay this thing this thing is supposed 1230 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:54,080 okay this thing this thing is supposed 1231 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,390 okay this thing this thing is supposed to have a gps chip inside it but 1232 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:56,400 to have a gps chip inside it but 1233 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,110 to have a gps chip inside it but um but it doesn't seem to at least the 1234 00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:59,120 um but it doesn't seem to at least the 1235 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,630 um but it doesn't seem to at least the software doesn't seem to be picking it 1236 00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:00,640 software doesn't seem to be picking it 1237 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,190 software doesn't seem to be picking it up 1238 00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:01,200 up 1239 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,110 up when you dig down into the command line 1240 00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:03,120 when you dig down into the command line 1241 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,390 when you dig down into the command line what will happen is 1242 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:04,400 what will happen is 1243 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,230 what will happen is yeah show us what's on the display what 1244 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:06,240 yeah show us what's on the display what 1245 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,909 yeah show us what's on the display what what does the display show it's very 1246 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:07,919 what does the display show it's very 1247 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:11,750 what does the display show it's very yellow to me right now 1248 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:11,760 1249 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,870 can you put it a bit closer to your um 1250 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:14,880 can you put it a bit closer to your um 1251 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,750 can you put it a bit closer to your um to your screen or to your camera 1252 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:19,760 to your screen or to your camera 1253 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,950 to your screen or to your camera let's see here 1254 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:22,960 1255 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,950 gps no fix it says okay 1256 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:26,960 gps no fix it says okay 1257 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,310 gps no fix it says okay wow okay i couldn't read that 1258 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:30,320 wow okay i couldn't read that 1259 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,830 wow okay i couldn't read that yeah so it says it says gps no fix but 1260 00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:33,840 yeah so it says it says gps no fix but 1261 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,149 yeah so it says it says gps no fix but if you get a fix on the gps you will be 1262 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:36,159 if you get a fix on the gps you will be 1263 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:37,590 if you get a fix on the gps you will be able to at least get utc 1264 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:37,600 able to at least get utc 1265 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,110 able to at least get utc right you'll be able to get the time 1266 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:39,120 right you'll be able to get the time 1267 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,350 right you'll be able to get the time yeah yeah but sometimes it uh 1268 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:41,360 yeah yeah but sometimes it uh 1269 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,350 yeah yeah but sometimes it uh it it it's there for a while and i need 1270 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:43,360 it it it's there for a while and i need 1271 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:44,549 it it it's there for a while and i need to die so 1272 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:44,559 to die so 1273 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,750 to die so go uh but i mean funny because 1274 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:47,760 go uh but i mean funny because 1275 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,149 go uh but i mean funny because once you know i've got several gps 1276 00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:50,159 once you know i've got several gps 1277 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:52,390 once you know i've got several gps receivers and once they get a lock 1278 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:52,400 receivers and once they get a lock 1279 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,390 receivers and once they get a lock they tend to stay on as long as as long 1280 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:54,400 they tend to stay on as long as as long 1281 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,310 they tend to stay on as long as as long as the radio is running 1282 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:56,320 as the radio is running 1283 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,470 as the radio is running is that a kit that you put together or 1284 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:58,480 is that a kit that you put together or 1285 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:08,549 is that a kit that you put together or what did you 1286 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:08,559 1287 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,909 okay yeah which is quite interesting 1288 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:11,919 okay yeah which is quite interesting 1289 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:14,710 okay yeah which is quite interesting um that's a bit of physics there but 1290 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:14,720 um that's a bit of physics there but 1291 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,669 um that's a bit of physics there but yeah yeah 1292 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:15,679 yeah yeah 1293 00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,110 yeah yeah yeah yeah they're quite quite 1294 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:17,120 yeah yeah they're quite quite 1295 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,830 yeah yeah they're quite quite interesting they're very nice 1296 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:19,840 interesting they're very nice 1297 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,789 interesting they're very nice so does that thing that you showed us 1298 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:22,799 so does that thing that you showed us 1299 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,789 so does that thing that you showed us does that also act as a time source as 1300 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:24,799 does that also act as a time source as 1301 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:25,510 does that also act as a time source as well as 1302 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:25,520 well as 1303 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,230 well as a yeah yeah you put it on the network 1304 00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:28,240 a yeah yeah you put it on the network 1305 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,750 a yeah yeah you put it on the network then or no 1306 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:29,760 then or no 1307 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,269 then or no i put it on your network it's got an 1308 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:32,279 i put it on your network it's got an 1309 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:33,750 i put it on your network it's got an r232 1310 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:33,760 r232 1311 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,909 r232 but there's a little problem it's 1312 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:35,919 but there's a little problem it's 1313 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:36,789 but there's a little problem it's written 1314 00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:36,799 written 1315 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:53,029 written it's written in bloody chinese 1316 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:53,039 1317 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:54,789 oh i bet that was fun i was going to 1318 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:54,799 oh i bet that was fun i was going to 1319 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,149 oh i bet that was fun i was going to suggest that but i thought 1320 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:56,159 suggest that but i thought 1321 00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:58,070 suggest that but i thought oh boy you never know what might come 1322 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:58,080 oh boy you never know what might come 1323 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,750 oh boy you never know what might come out of that i remember 1324 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:59,760 out of that i remember 1325 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,909 out of that i remember everything yeah so i thought i meant to 1326 00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:01,919 everything yeah so i thought i meant to 1327 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,549 everything yeah so i thought i meant to do that for me they didn't do that 1328 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:04,559 do that for me they didn't do that 1329 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,510 do that for me they didn't do that like that bad man and i ganged but i i 1330 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:07,520 like that bad man and i ganged but i i 1331 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,269 like that bad man and i ganged but i i worked out the balls right and i worked 1332 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:09,279 worked out the balls right and i worked 1333 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:09,909 worked out the balls right and i worked out the 1334 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:09,919 out the 1335 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:11,909 out the number of bits and i couldn't work out 1336 00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:11,919 number of bits and i couldn't work out 1337 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:14,789 number of bits and i couldn't work out actually 1338 00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:14,799 1339 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:16,549 well let's let's uh we've got to get 1340 00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:16,559 well let's let's uh we've got to get 1341 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,070 well let's let's uh we've got to get ready to close it down so i want to give 1342 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:18,080 ready to close it down so i want to give 1343 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,750 ready to close it down so i want to give the other folks a chance to uh 1344 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:19,760 the other folks a chance to uh 1345 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,590 the other folks a chance to uh to make closing comments if they want so 1346 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:21,600 to make closing comments if they want so 1347 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,110 to make closing comments if they want so sobu go ahead sir 1348 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:23,120 sobu go ahead sir 1349 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,909 sobu go ahead sir yeah i remember speaking of chinese 1350 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:25,919 yeah i remember speaking of chinese 1351 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,029 yeah i remember speaking of chinese equipment uh 1352 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:27,039 equipment uh 1353 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,830 equipment uh leo laporte on the twitter network uh 1354 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:29,840 leo laporte on the twitter network uh 1355 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,230 leo laporte on the twitter network uh five 1356 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:30,240 five 1357 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,710 five or six years ago commented that um 1358 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:34,720 or six years ago commented that um 1359 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,390 or six years ago commented that um he had a phone and uh john c dwarf 1360 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:38,400 he had a phone and uh john c dwarf 1361 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,510 he had a phone and uh john c dwarf was on the show uh that sunday and he uh 1362 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:41,520 was on the show uh that sunday and he uh 1363 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,029 was on the show uh that sunday and he uh played with the phone and when leo got 1364 00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:43,039 played with the phone and when leo got 1365 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:44,230 played with the phone and when leo got the phone back 1366 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,240 the phone back 1367 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,870 the phone back yeah the language was uh chinese and 1368 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:46,880 yeah the language was uh chinese and 1369 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,830 yeah the language was uh chinese and then 1370 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:47,840 then 1371 00:26:47,840 --> 00:27:00,270 then yeah john cena always 1372 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:00,280 1373 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,149 [Laughter] 1374 00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:04,159 [Laughter] 1375 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:06,149 [Laughter] how about you doug what uh let's have 1376 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:06,159 how about you doug what uh let's have 1377 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:07,830 how about you doug what uh let's have some closing comments before i close the 1378 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:07,840 some closing comments before i close the 1379 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,549 some closing comments before i close the meeting down 1380 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:08,559 meeting down 1381 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,110 meeting down well i'm gonna go see my son and uh 1382 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:11,120 well i'm gonna go see my son and uh 1383 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,710 well i'm gonna go see my son and uh daughter-in-law and my granddaughters my 1384 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:12,720 daughter-in-law and my granddaughters my 1385 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,990 daughter-in-law and my granddaughters my youngest granddaughter is 1386 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:14,000 youngest granddaughter is 1387 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,950 youngest granddaughter is uh just starting to crawl so that should 1388 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:16,960 uh just starting to crawl so that should 1389 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,830 uh just starting to crawl so that should be fun 1390 00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:18,840 be fun 1391 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,310 be fun nice that's excellent that's excellent 1392 00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:22,320 nice that's excellent that's excellent 1393 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,310 nice that's excellent that's excellent i'm so so happy to hear that i've been 1394 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:24,320 i'm so so happy to hear that i've been 1395 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,070 i'm so so happy to hear that i've been keeping up with my sister in australia 1396 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:26,080 keeping up with my sister in australia 1397 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,510 keeping up with my sister in australia too they've been having some fun 1398 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:27,520 too they've been having some fun 1399 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,750 too they've been having some fun and stunning games over there as well so 1400 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:29,760 and stunning games over there as well so 1401 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,269 and stunning games over there as well so and soon the child will learn its 1402 00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:31,279 and soon the child will learn its 1403 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,789 and soon the child will learn its first word mine yes 1404 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:34,799 first word mine yes 1405 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:40,149 first word mine yes yes that long 1406 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:40,159 1407 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,070 all right boys and girls i think it's 1408 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:42,080 all right boys and girls i think it's 1409 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,470 all right boys and girls i think it's time to finish up thank you again for a 1410 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:44,480 time to finish up thank you again for a 1411 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,350 time to finish up thank you again for a great uh 1412 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:45,360 great uh 1413 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,110 great uh for a great coffee break thoroughly 1414 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:47,120 for a great coffee break thoroughly 1415 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:48,870 for a great coffee break thoroughly enjoyed it and 1416 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:48,880 enjoyed it and 1417 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,870 enjoyed it and i'll i'll see you later have a good uh 1418 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:50,880 i'll i'll see you later have a good uh 1419 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,389 i'll i'll see you later have a good uh have a good week and we'll see you next 1420 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:52,399 have a good week and we'll see you next 1421 00:27:52,399 --> 00:27:52,950 have a good week and we'll see you next week 1422 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:52,960 week 1423 00:27:52,960 --> 00:28:03,330 week goodbye everybody see you next week 1424 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:03,340 goodbye everybody see you next week 1425 00:28:03,340 --> 00:28:09,149 goodbye everybody see you next week [Music] 1426 00:28:09,149 --> 00:28:09,159 [Music] 1427 00:28:09,159 --> 00:28:12,159 [Music] oh