1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,669 covering the week's top tech stories 2 00:00:03,669 --> 00:00:03,679 covering the week's top tech stories 3 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:06,470 covering the week's top tech stories with a slight linux bias if you enjoy 4 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:06,480 with a slight linux bias if you enjoy 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,070 with a slight linux bias if you enjoy your weekly tech news with a slight 6 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:08,080 your weekly tech news with a slight 7 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,030 your weekly tech news with a slight linux bias 8 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:09,040 linux bias 9 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,190 linux bias become part of our fleet choose your 10 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:11,200 become part of our fleet choose your 11 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,110 become part of our fleet choose your rank at patreon.com 12 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:13,120 rank at patreon.com 13 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:16,550 rank at patreon.com category five let's get into it debian 14 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:16,560 category five let's get into it debian 15 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,870 category five let's get into it debian officially supports the pine book pro 16 00:00:18,870 --> 00:00:18,880 officially supports the pine book pro 17 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,670 officially supports the pine book pro that's coming up but first prepare to 18 00:00:21,670 --> 00:00:21,680 that's coming up but first prepare to 19 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,750 that's coming up but first prepare to find your next distro centos 20 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:23,760 find your next distro centos 21 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,750 find your next distro centos sys admins there will not be a centos 9. 22 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:27,760 sys admins there will not be a centos 9. 23 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,310 sys admins there will not be a centos 9. for years centos has been a stable open 24 00:00:30,310 --> 00:00:30,320 for years centos has been a stable open 25 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,589 for years centos has been a stable open source release based on 26 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:31,599 source release based on 27 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:33,830 source release based on and functionally compatible with red hat 28 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:33,840 and functionally compatible with red hat 29 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,350 and functionally compatible with red hat enterprise linux 30 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:35,360 enterprise linux 31 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,270 enterprise linux that all ended this week in what some 32 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:37,280 that all ended this week in what some 33 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,430 that all ended this week in what some users are calling a betrayal to the foss 34 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:39,440 users are calling a betrayal to the foss 35 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,310 users are calling a betrayal to the foss community 36 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:40,320 community 37 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,150 community when red hat announced it is severing 38 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:42,160 when red hat announced it is severing 39 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,590 when red hat announced it is severing support for centos 40 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:43,600 support for centos 41 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,310 support for centos and the centos team simultaneously said 42 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:46,320 and the centos team simultaneously said 43 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,150 and the centos team simultaneously said they're moving to a rolling release with 44 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:48,160 they're moving to a rolling release with 45 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,029 they're moving to a rolling release with their centos 46 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:49,039 their centos 47 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:52,869 their centos stream distro a user commented on the 48 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:52,879 stream distro a user commented on the 49 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:54,389 stream distro a user commented on the centos blog post saying 50 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:54,399 centos blog post saying 51 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,630 centos blog post saying this is dumb the entire premise and the 52 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:56,640 this is dumb the entire premise and the 53 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,430 this is dumb the entire premise and the only reason 54 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:57,440 only reason 55 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,430 only reason anyone uses centos is because it's a 56 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:59,440 anyone uses centos is because it's a 57 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,750 anyone uses centos is because it's a rebuilt red hat enterprise linux 58 00:01:01,750 --> 00:01:01,760 rebuilt red hat enterprise linux 59 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,830 rebuilt red hat enterprise linux congratulations on undermining that 60 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:03,840 congratulations on undermining that 61 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,030 congratulations on undermining that nitwits 62 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:05,040 nitwits 63 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,190 nitwits the op received many plus ones for their 64 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:07,200 the op received many plus ones for their 65 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,030 the op received many plus ones for their spot on insight 66 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:09,040 spot on insight 67 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,190 spot on insight will this mean transitioning to a centos 68 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:11,200 will this mean transitioning to a centos 69 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,070 will this mean transitioning to a centos stream 70 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:12,080 stream 71 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,750 stream will the shift to a rolling release 72 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:13,760 will the shift to a rolling release 73 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,830 will the shift to a rolling release result in more admins looking at trusted 74 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:15,840 result in more admins looking at trusted 75 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,030 result in more admins looking at trusted alternatives such as 76 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:17,040 alternatives such as 77 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,149 alternatives such as ubuntu or debian red hat said in their 78 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:20,159 ubuntu or debian red hat said in their 79 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:21,510 ubuntu or debian red hat said in their announcement tuesday 80 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:21,520 announcement tuesday 81 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,590 announcement tuesday we believe that the real value of open 82 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:23,600 we believe that the real value of open 83 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,670 we believe that the real value of open source lies in innovating and solving 84 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:25,680 source lies in innovating and solving 85 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,469 source lies in innovating and solving problems 86 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:26,479 problems 87 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:28,630 problems and have learned that a rebuild or clone 88 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:28,640 and have learned that a rebuild or clone 89 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,510 and have learned that a rebuild or clone doesn't provide that opportunity 90 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:31,520 doesn't provide that opportunity 91 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,910 doesn't provide that opportunity are you a centos user do you feel 92 00:01:33,910 --> 00:01:33,920 are you a centos user do you feel 93 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,069 are you a centos user do you feel betrayed by your trusted distro 94 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:36,079 betrayed by your trusted distro 95 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:37,910 betrayed by your trusted distro or are you excited to see what's next 96 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:37,920 or are you excited to see what's next 97 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,510 or are you excited to see what's next with a centos stream 98 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:39,520 with a centos stream 99 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,630 with a centos stream comment below updates for the centos 100 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:42,640 comment below updates for the centos 101 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,630 comment below updates for the centos linux 8 distribution will continue until 102 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:44,640 linux 8 distribution will continue until 103 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,630 linux 8 distribution will continue until the end of 2021 104 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:46,640 the end of 2021 105 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,870 the end of 2021 centos linux 7 users will thank the 106 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:48,880 centos linux 7 users will thank the 107 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,710 centos linux 7 users will thank the stars they chose the lts 108 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:50,720 stars they chose the lts 109 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,469 stars they chose the lts since support will continue until june 110 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:52,479 since support will continue until june 111 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:54,630 since support will continue until june 30th 2024 112 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:54,640 30th 2024 113 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,590 30th 2024 centos stream 9 will launch next summer 114 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:57,600 centos stream 9 will launch next summer 115 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,670 centos stream 9 will launch next summer i am not a red hat user 116 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:59,680 i am not a red hat user 117 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,789 i am not a red hat user um so it doesn't impact me 118 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:02,799 um so it doesn't impact me 119 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:06,149 um so it doesn't impact me uh but i know good for you but i can 120 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:06,159 uh but i know good for you but i can 121 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:07,590 uh but i know good for you but i can i can see how this would have a 122 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:07,600 i can see how this would have a 123 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,430 i can see how this would have a significant impact 124 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:09,440 significant impact 125 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,869 significant impact to just suddenly walk away now 126 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:10,879 to just suddenly walk away now 127 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:12,070 to just suddenly walk away now thankfully they're taking a year to 128 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:12,080 thankfully they're taking a year to 129 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,190 thankfully they're taking a year to transition 130 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:13,200 transition 131 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,949 transition but how do you just cut ties like that 132 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:14,959 but how do you just cut ties like that 133 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:16,949 but how do you just cut ties like that yeah and now i am 134 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:16,959 yeah and now i am 135 00:02:16,959 --> 00:02:19,510 yeah and now i am i'm also not a red hat user centos user 136 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:19,520 i'm also not a red hat user centos user 137 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:19,990 i'm also not a red hat user centos user i'm 138 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:20,000 i'm 139 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,150 i'm very much a debian baby as our viewers 140 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:22,160 very much a debian baby as our viewers 141 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,910 very much a debian baby as our viewers know absolutely yeah i love debian and 142 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:23,920 know absolutely yeah i love debian and 143 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:25,190 know absolutely yeah i love debian and debian derives 144 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:25,200 debian derives 145 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,670 debian derives um but in this case now who does this 146 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:27,680 um but in this case now who does this 147 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,830 um but in this case now who does this impact i mean i've got customers who 148 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:29,840 impact i mean i've got customers who 149 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,670 impact i mean i've got customers who uh who do use centos i know some 150 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:31,680 uh who do use centos i know some 151 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,430 uh who do use centos i know some sysadmins who use centos 152 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:33,440 sysadmins who use centos 153 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,830 sysadmins who use centos and in fact my church uses centos as 154 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:35,840 and in fact my church uses centos as 155 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,270 and in fact my church uses centos as their email service 156 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:37,280 their email service 157 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,229 their email service um server okay and so it leaves them in 158 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:40,239 um server okay and so it leaves them in 159 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:40,470 um server okay and so it leaves them in a 160 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:40,480 a 161 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,190 a weird situation where okay you know hey 162 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:43,200 weird situation where okay you know hey 163 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,790 weird situation where okay you know hey i've been trying to transition them over 164 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:44,800 i've been trying to transition them over 165 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,350 i've been trying to transition them over to 166 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:45,360 to 167 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,030 to you know some some other service for 168 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:47,040 you know some some other service for 169 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,270 you know some some other service for some time but now it comes down to okay 170 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:49,280 some time but now it comes down to okay 171 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,229 some time but now it comes down to okay now 172 00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:50,239 now 173 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:52,710 now the varied operating system the very 174 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:52,720 the varied operating system the very 175 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,070 the varied operating system the very distribution that you are 176 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:54,080 distribution that you are 177 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,869 distribution that you are using for your main server is no longer 178 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:56,879 using for your main server is no longer 179 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:57,670 using for your main server is no longer supported 180 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:57,680 supported 181 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,990 supported right and is being cut off and and all 182 00:02:59,990 --> 00:03:00,000 right and is being cut off and and all 183 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,229 right and is being cut off and and all ties are being cut off from red hat so 184 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:02,239 ties are being cut off from red hat so 185 00:03:02,239 --> 00:03:05,350 ties are being cut off from red hat so i mean it is really a burn um you know 186 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:05,360 i mean it is really a burn um you know 187 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,710 i mean it is really a burn um you know we're gonna see in the next 188 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:06,720 we're gonna see in the next 189 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,869 we're gonna see in the next coming months because uh you know a lot 190 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:08,879 coming months because uh you know a lot 191 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:09,750 coming months because uh you know a lot of stuff right now 192 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:09,760 of stuff right now 193 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,030 of stuff right now is what is the reaction of the user base 194 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:13,040 is what is the reaction of the user base 195 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,589 is what is the reaction of the user base and so 196 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:13,599 and so 197 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:16,470 and so some of the news comes from that 198 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:16,480 some of the news comes from that 199 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,350 some of the news comes from that reaction 200 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:17,360 reaction 201 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,509 reaction yeah so what's the response of the 202 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:19,519 yeah so what's the response of the 203 00:03:19,519 --> 00:03:21,670 yeah so what's the response of the sysadmin well the response is like 204 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:21,680 sysadmin well the response is like 205 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,710 sysadmin well the response is like we feel betrayed right but the one thing 206 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:24,720 we feel betrayed right but the one thing 207 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,229 we feel betrayed right but the one thing and i do 208 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:26,239 and i do 209 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:28,789 and i do somewhat agree with the comment from 210 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:28,799 somewhat agree with the comment from 211 00:03:28,799 --> 00:03:29,350 somewhat agree with the comment from from 212 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:29,360 from 213 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,990 from red hat is that you know the community 214 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:32,000 red hat is that you know the community 215 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,030 red hat is that you know the community is about 216 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:33,040 is about 217 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,190 is about advancing and growing and developing as 218 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:35,200 advancing and growing and developing as 219 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,149 advancing and growing and developing as opposed to just 220 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:36,159 opposed to just 221 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,550 opposed to just building off something that's older so i 222 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:38,560 building off something that's older so i 223 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,229 building off something that's older so i get why they want to make this movie i 224 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:40,239 get why they want to make this movie i 225 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:41,430 get why they want to make this movie i don't even know if that's the point it's 226 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:41,440 don't even know if that's the point it's 227 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,390 don't even know if that's the point it's more like 228 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:42,400 more like 229 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,589 more like centos is basically an 230 00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:45,599 centos is basically an 231 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:48,390 centos is basically an alternative to yes red hat enterprise 232 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:48,400 alternative to yes red hat enterprise 233 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,110 alternative to yes red hat enterprise linux 234 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:49,120 linux 235 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,949 linux red hat enterprise linux of course 236 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:50,959 red hat enterprise linux of course 237 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:53,350 red hat enterprise linux of course requires the purchase of 238 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:53,360 requires the purchase of 239 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,390 requires the purchase of licensing yeah so 240 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:56,400 licensing yeah so 241 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,030 licensing yeah so does that come into play where well we 242 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:59,040 does that come into play where well we 243 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,110 does that come into play where well we don't really want to support 244 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:01,120 don't really want to support 245 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,630 don't really want to support the clone that everyone is using 246 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:04,640 the clone that everyone is using 247 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,270 the clone that everyone is using because we don't get paid for it again 248 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:07,280 because we don't get paid for it again 249 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:07,910 because we don't get paid for it again you know don't 250 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:07,920 you know don't 251 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,830 you know don't shoot the messenger i'm you know a lot 252 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:09,840 shoot the messenger i'm you know a lot 253 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,589 shoot the messenger i'm you know a lot of stuff right now it's very very fresh 254 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:11,599 of stuff right now it's very very fresh 255 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:12,869 of stuff right now it's very very fresh in the news 256 00:04:12,869 --> 00:04:12,879 in the news 257 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,270 in the news comes from the reactionary response of 258 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:15,280 comes from the reactionary response of 259 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,150 comes from the reactionary response of the assisted men 260 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:16,160 the assisted men 261 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,430 the assisted men and and right now it feels like red hat 262 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:19,440 and and right now it feels like red hat 263 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,749 and and right now it feels like red hat has 264 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:19,759 has 265 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:21,830 has pulled the plug on something great and 266 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:21,840 pulled the plug on something great and 267 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:23,830 pulled the plug on something great and it's gonna hurt a lot of people 268 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:23,840 it's gonna hurt a lot of people 269 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,710 it's gonna hurt a lot of people and and not only like hurt but like it's 270 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:26,720 and and not only like hurt but like it's 271 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,590 and and not only like hurt but like it's really tough 272 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:27,600 really tough 273 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,150 really tough to suddenly have support yanked out from 274 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:30,160 to suddenly have support yanked out from 275 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,870 to suddenly have support yanked out from under you 276 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:30,880 under you 277 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,629 under you on a distribution that you've been using 278 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:32,639 on a distribution that you've been using 279 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:35,430 on a distribution that you've been using for 10 years and how easy 280 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:35,440 for 10 years and how easy 281 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,230 for 10 years and how easy and i say that kind of tongue-in-cheek 282 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:38,240 and i say that kind of tongue-in-cheek 283 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,950 and i say that kind of tongue-in-cheek how easy is it to walk away from that 284 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:40,960 how easy is it to walk away from that 285 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,350 how easy is it to walk away from that and switch to a new system like i think 286 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:43,360 and switch to a new system like i think 287 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,590 and switch to a new system like i think like for anybody who's using it 288 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:45,600 like for anybody who's using it 289 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,350 like for anybody who's using it i'm you know thinking your church they 290 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:47,360 i'm you know thinking your church they 291 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,270 i'm you know thinking your church they have to build a whole new system 292 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:49,280 have to build a whole new system 293 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:52,710 have to build a whole new system essentially like that's what simple 294 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:52,720 essentially like that's what simple 295 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,830 essentially like that's what simple here's the choice the choice becomes do 296 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:55,840 here's the choice the choice becomes do 297 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:56,550 here's the choice the choice becomes do we 298 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:56,560 we 299 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,150 we now transition to centos stream 300 00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:00,160 now transition to centos stream 301 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,110 now transition to centos stream which is a rolling release which is what 302 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:03,120 which is a rolling release which is what 303 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,710 which is a rolling release which is what sent os 304 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:04,720 sent os 305 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,110 sent os that that was the appeal of centos is 306 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:07,120 that that was the appeal of centos is 307 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,830 that that was the appeal of centos is that it was 308 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:07,840 that it was 309 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:11,029 that it was not a rolling release yeah so now do we 310 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:11,039 not a rolling release yeah so now do we 311 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:12,310 not a rolling release yeah so now do we go to 312 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:12,320 go to 313 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,270 go to uh centos stream and become a rolling 314 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:15,280 uh centos stream and become a rolling 315 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:16,629 uh centos stream and become a rolling release or 316 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:16,639 release or 317 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:20,629 release or do we start looking at debian which is 318 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:20,639 do we start looking at debian which is 319 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:23,270 do we start looking at debian which is going to fall under that category ubuntu 320 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:23,280 going to fall under that category ubuntu 321 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:24,870 going to fall under that category ubuntu is very well supported by 322 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:24,880 is very well supported by 323 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,870 is very well supported by canonical so it opens up 324 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:28,880 canonical so it opens up 325 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,189 canonical so it opens up now now we need to start looking at okay 326 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:31,199 now now we need to start looking at okay 327 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:32,070 now now we need to start looking at okay well if 328 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:32,080 well if 329 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,469 well if if we're no longer going to be on this 330 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:34,479 if we're no longer going to be on this 331 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:35,749 if we're no longer going to be on this what we what we're going to call a 332 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:35,759 what we what we're going to call a 333 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:37,670 what we what we're going to call a stable release and what i mean by that 334 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:37,680 stable release and what i mean by that 335 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,150 stable release and what i mean by that is not 336 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:38,160 is not 337 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,629 is not not that anything else is unstable in 338 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:40,639 not that anything else is unstable in 339 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:42,710 not that anything else is unstable in the traditional sense but 340 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:42,720 the traditional sense but 341 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,550 the traditional sense but we've got two different release models 342 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:44,560 we've got two different release models 343 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,909 we've got two different release models yeah you've got that like 344 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:45,919 yeah you've got that like 345 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:47,670 yeah you've got that like here's a distro that you can install and 346 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:47,680 here's a distro that you can install and 347 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,110 here's a distro that you can install and it's just going to continue maintaining 348 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:49,120 it's just going to continue maintaining 349 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,909 it's just going to continue maintaining itself 350 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:49,919 itself 351 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:52,550 itself for years versus the rolling release 352 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:52,560 for years versus the rolling release 353 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,909 for years versus the rolling release cycle where you need to keep it up to 354 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:53,919 cycle where you need to keep it up to 355 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:55,590 cycle where you need to keep it up to date all the time you need to upgrade to 356 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:55,600 date all the time you need to upgrade to 357 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,710 date all the time you need to upgrade to the next distro 358 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:56,720 the next distro 359 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,430 the next distro or the next version of the distro and 360 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:59,440 or the next version of the distro and 361 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,950 or the next version of the distro and could have some breakage in the 362 00:06:00,950 --> 00:06:00,960 could have some breakage in the 363 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,029 could have some breakage in the in the meantime yeah and so there's you 364 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:03,039 in the meantime yeah and so there's you 365 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:05,110 in the meantime yeah and so there's you know that that kind of support issue as 366 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:05,120 know that that kind of support issue as 367 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,070 know that that kind of support issue as well 368 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:06,080 well 369 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,189 well so do we start looking at other distros 370 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:09,199 so do we start looking at other distros 371 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:10,390 so do we start looking at other distros it'll be interesting to see and only 372 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:10,400 it'll be interesting to see and only 373 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,790 it'll be interesting to see and only tom's going to tell so 374 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:12,800 tom's going to tell so 375 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,469 tom's going to tell so i wonder too how much this might drive 376 00:06:16,469 --> 00:06:16,479 i wonder too how much this might drive 377 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:18,550 i wonder too how much this might drive and not just the thought of moving to 378 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:18,560 and not just the thought of moving to 379 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,950 and not just the thought of moving to debian or moving to ubuntu 380 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:20,960 debian or moving to ubuntu 381 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,670 debian or moving to ubuntu but does this also drive us to think 382 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:23,680 but does this also drive us to think 383 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,390 but does this also drive us to think should we 384 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:24,400 should we 385 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,629 should we consider some of the cloud options i 386 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:26,639 consider some of the cloud options i 387 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,710 consider some of the cloud options i mean if the church says okay well our 388 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:28,720 mean if the church says okay well our 389 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,790 mean if the church says okay well our mail server is no longer supported 390 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:30,800 mail server is no longer supported 391 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,469 mail server is no longer supported so are we going to transition this old 392 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:32,479 so are we going to transition this old 393 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:34,629 so are we going to transition this old mail server to something new or 394 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:34,639 mail server to something new or 395 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:35,909 mail server to something new or are we just going to scrap it all 396 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:35,919 are we just going to scrap it all 397 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:37,990 are we just going to scrap it all together and say you know what let's 398 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:38,000 together and say you know what let's 399 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,990 together and say you know what let's just buy a nas 400 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:40,000 just buy a nas 401 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,950 just buy a nas and use that for file sharing and go 402 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:42,960 and use that for file sharing and go 403 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,430 and use that for file sharing and go with 404 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:43,440 with 405 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,070 with one of the cloud options for email that 406 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:46,080 one of the cloud options for email that 407 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,590 one of the cloud options for email that might be the better solution 408 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:47,600 might be the better solution 409 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,710 might be the better solution so i'm eager to hear your comments below 410 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:50,720 so i'm eager to hear your comments below 411 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,309 so i'm eager to hear your comments below i'd love to know how this affects you 412 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:52,319 i'd love to know how this affects you 413 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:53,909 i'd love to know how this affects you how it impacts you what your thoughts 414 00:06:53,909 --> 00:06:53,919 how it impacts you what your thoughts 415 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:55,350 how it impacts you what your thoughts are do you fall on 416 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:55,360 are do you fall on 417 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,830 are do you fall on the side of the sysadmin who is kind of 418 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:57,840 the side of the sysadmin who is kind of 419 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,390 the side of the sysadmin who is kind of feeling betrayed right now by red hat 420 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:00,400 feeling betrayed right now by red hat 421 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,150 feeling betrayed right now by red hat and even so much as to say feeling 422 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:02,160 and even so much as to say feeling 423 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,150 and even so much as to say feeling betrayed by centos 424 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:04,160 betrayed by centos 425 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,430 betrayed by centos um or do you fall into the the camp 426 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:07,440 um or do you fall into the the camp 427 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,110 um or do you fall into the the camp where it's like okay well i'm gonna have 428 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:09,120 where it's like okay well i'm gonna have 429 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,830 where it's like okay well i'm gonna have to 430 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:09,840 to 431 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,189 to transition to something and it's 432 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:11,199 transition to something and it's 433 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:13,430 transition to something and it's exciting and it's a chance to 434 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:13,440 exciting and it's a chance to 435 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,830 exciting and it's a chance to try something new and fresh where do you 436 00:07:15,830 --> 00:07:15,840 try something new and fresh where do you 437 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,870 try something new and fresh where do you fall comment below 438 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:16,880 fall comment below 439 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,189 fall comment below love to hear from you on the coattail of 440 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:19,199 love to hear from you on the coattail of 441 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:20,790 love to hear from you on the coattail of ubuntu's announcement of official 442 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:20,800 ubuntu's announcement of official 443 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,029 ubuntu's announcement of official support for the raspberry pi 4 444 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:23,039 support for the raspberry pi 4 445 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:24,870 support for the raspberry pi 4 it seems debian doesn't want to be left 446 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:24,880 it seems debian doesn't want to be left 447 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,510 it seems debian doesn't want to be left out their next release contains a debian 448 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:27,520 out their next release contains a debian 449 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,430 out their next release contains a debian installer enhanced for arm devices 450 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:29,440 installer enhanced for arm devices 451 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,830 installer enhanced for arm devices with official support out of the box for 452 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:31,840 with official support out of the box for 453 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,790 with official support out of the box for among others 454 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:32,800 among others 455 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,230 among others the 200 pine book pro pro linux laptop 456 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:36,240 the 200 pine book pro pro linux laptop 457 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,189 the 200 pine book pro pro linux laptop from pine 64. an alpha version of the 458 00:07:39,189 --> 00:07:39,199 from pine 64. an alpha version of the 459 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,270 from pine 64. an alpha version of the debian installer for buster successor 460 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:41,280 debian installer for buster successor 461 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:41,990 debian installer for buster successor bullseye 462 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:42,000 bullseye 463 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,150 bullseye has added support for the linux 5.9 464 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:44,160 has added support for the linux 5.9 465 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,189 has added support for the linux 5.9 kernel series 466 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:45,199 kernel series 467 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,029 kernel series and improvements to the rm64 468 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:47,039 and improvements to the rm64 469 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:48,869 and improvements to the rm64 architecture support 470 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:48,879 architecture support 471 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:50,629 architecture support along with outcome support for the new 472 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:50,639 along with outcome support for the new 473 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,270 along with outcome support for the new arm devices including not only pine 64's 474 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:53,280 arm devices including not only pine 64's 475 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,550 arm devices including not only pine 64's pine poke pro 476 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:54,560 pine poke pro 477 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,909 pine poke pro but also the original 99 pine book 478 00:07:57,909 --> 00:07:57,919 but also the original 99 pine book 479 00:07:57,919 --> 00:07:59,510 but also the original 99 pine book support has also been added for the 480 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:59,520 support has also been added for the 481 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,070 support has also been added for the friendly arms nano pi neo air 482 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:02,080 friendly arms nano pi neo air 483 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,629 friendly arms nano pi neo air and nano pi neo plus 2 as well as 484 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:04,639 and nano pi neo plus 2 as well as 485 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,309 and nano pi neo plus 2 as well as several other single board computers 486 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:06,319 several other single board computers 487 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,029 several other single board computers from a variety of manufacturers 488 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:09,039 from a variety of manufacturers 489 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:10,309 from a variety of manufacturers could we be starting to see the 490 00:08:10,309 --> 00:08:10,319 could we be starting to see the 491 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:12,070 could we be starting to see the transition to an arm-based server 492 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:12,080 transition to an arm-based server 493 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,390 transition to an arm-based server room post your thoughts in the comments 494 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:14,400 room post your thoughts in the comments 495 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,749 room post your thoughts in the comments below 496 00:08:15,749 --> 00:08:15,759 below 497 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:17,189 below we've still got a half a year left 498 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:17,199 we've still got a half a year left 499 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:19,110 we've still got a half a year left before debian 11 goes stable 500 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:19,120 before debian 11 goes stable 501 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,270 before debian 11 goes stable but bullseye is available now as debbie 502 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:21,280 but bullseye is available now as debbie 503 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,189 but bullseye is available now as debbie and testing so if you're particularly 504 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:23,199 and testing so if you're particularly 505 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:24,869 and testing so if you're particularly adventurous or just really want to get a 506 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:24,879 adventurous or just really want to get a 507 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:25,990 adventurous or just really want to get a debian powered pine book 508 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:26,000 debian powered pine book 509 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,390 debian powered pine book pro for christmas feel free to give it a 510 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:28,400 pro for christmas feel free to give it a 511 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,270 pro for christmas feel free to give it a try now 512 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:29,280 try now 513 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,589 try now becca raises an interesting point in 514 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:31,599 becca raises an interesting point in 515 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:32,469 becca raises an interesting point in that you know 516 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:32,479 that you know 517 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:34,389 that you know could this be the start of a transition 518 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:34,399 could this be the start of a transition 519 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:36,070 could this be the start of a transition in the server room we were talking about 520 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:36,080 in the server room we were talking about 521 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,190 in the server room we were talking about centos 522 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:37,200 centos 523 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,870 centos and the transition there but could this 524 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:38,880 and the transition there but could this 525 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,630 and the transition there but could this be the start of a transition not only to 526 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:40,640 be the start of a transition not only to 527 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,430 be the start of a transition not only to new 528 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:41,440 new 529 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,110 new distribution but also new architecture 530 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:45,120 distribution but also new architecture 531 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,829 distribution but also new architecture i think it could i mean i i have i have 532 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:47,839 i think it could i mean i i have i have 533 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:48,389 i think it could i mean i i have i have watched 534 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:48,399 watched 535 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,230 watched arm grow and gain more um 536 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:52,240 arm grow and gain more um 537 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,190 arm grow and gain more um user base in the last probably year it's 538 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:55,200 user base in the last probably year it's 539 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:55,509 user base in the last probably year it's been 540 00:08:55,509 --> 00:08:55,519 been 541 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:56,710 been pretty significant it's happening 542 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:56,720 pretty significant it's happening 543 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,870 pretty significant it's happening quickly very quickly and so i'm very 544 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:58,880 quickly very quickly and so i'm very 545 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,750 quickly very quickly and so i'm very intrigued to see 546 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:59,760 intrigued to see 547 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,829 intrigued to see where this takes things because i do 548 00:09:01,829 --> 00:09:01,839 where this takes things because i do 549 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:02,949 where this takes things because i do think 550 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:02,959 think 551 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:07,030 think arm could really become the new standard 552 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:07,040 arm could really become the new standard 553 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,750 arm could really become the new standard it's fast and it's cheap yeah and not 554 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:09,760 it's fast and it's cheap yeah and not 555 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,190 it's fast and it's cheap yeah and not only that but to think 556 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:11,200 only that but to think 557 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,750 only that but to think of all of the single board computers out 558 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:13,760 of all of the single board computers out 559 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,670 of all of the single board computers out there that are arm based 560 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:15,680 there that are arm based 561 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,070 there that are arm based i mean maybe there's still a hesitation 562 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:18,080 i mean maybe there's still a hesitation 563 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,590 i mean maybe there's still a hesitation to put 564 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:19,600 to put 565 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,150 to put at least to rely and depend on single 566 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:22,160 at least to rely and depend on single 567 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,269 at least to rely and depend on single board computing 568 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:23,279 board computing 569 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:25,910 board computing in the in the data center right and that 570 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:25,920 in the in the data center right and that 571 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,269 in the in the data center right and that there is some truth in that 572 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:27,279 there is some truth in that 573 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:29,030 there is some truth in that and and part of that comes from the 574 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:29,040 and and part of that comes from the 575 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,710 and and part of that comes from the reliability of storage so you think 576 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:30,720 reliability of storage so you think 577 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,870 reliability of storage so you think about a raspberry pi with an sd card 578 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:32,880 about a raspberry pi with an sd card 579 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,310 about a raspberry pi with an sd card well do you really want your entire 580 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:34,320 well do you really want your entire 581 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,389 well do you really want your entire infrastructure housed on an sd card 582 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:36,399 infrastructure housed on an sd card 583 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:37,110 infrastructure housed on an sd card probably not 584 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:37,120 probably not 585 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,550 probably not no but arm is a lot more than just 586 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:40,560 no but arm is a lot more than just 587 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:42,070 no but arm is a lot more than just single board computers and it's not 588 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:42,080 single board computers and it's not 589 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,829 single board computers and it's not limited to sd cards 590 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:43,839 limited to sd cards 591 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:45,990 limited to sd cards you look at things from you know boards 592 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:46,000 you look at things from you know boards 593 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,310 you look at things from you know boards from odroid you look at boards from pine 594 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:48,320 from odroid you look at boards from pine 595 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,030 from odroid you look at boards from pine 64 and other competitors to raspberry pi 596 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:51,040 64 and other competitors to raspberry pi 597 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,190 64 and other competitors to raspberry pi and they all support emmc yeah and in 598 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:53,200 and they all support emmc yeah and in 599 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,470 and they all support emmc yeah and in fact a lot of them 600 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:54,480 fact a lot of them 601 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,150 fact a lot of them from both of those manufacturers and a 602 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:56,160 from both of those manufacturers and a 603 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,350 from both of those manufacturers and a lot of other manufacturers are 604 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:57,360 lot of other manufacturers are 605 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,070 lot of other manufacturers are supporting 606 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:58,080 supporting 607 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,190 supporting um m.2 yes so you can stick an nvme 608 00:10:01,190 --> 00:10:01,200 um m.2 yes so you can stick an nvme 609 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,670 um m.2 yes so you can stick an nvme drive 610 00:10:01,670 --> 00:10:01,680 drive 611 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,949 drive on your single board computer yeah and 612 00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:04,959 on your single board computer yeah and 613 00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:06,790 on your single board computer yeah and now you're running like something that 614 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:06,800 now you're running like something that 615 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,030 now you're running like something that is screaming fast 616 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:09,040 is screaming fast 617 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,389 is screaming fast super super fast super reliable and uh 618 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:12,399 super super fast super reliable and uh 619 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,069 super super fast super reliable and uh that belongs in the data center if you 620 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:14,079 that belongs in the data center if you 621 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:15,910 that belongs in the data center if you ask me i completely agree 622 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:15,920 ask me i completely agree 623 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,030 ask me i completely agree and i mean right now you know in 624 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:19,040 and i mean right now you know in 625 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,310 and i mean right now you know in my day job we're dealing with servers 626 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:22,320 my day job we're dealing with servers 627 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,190 my day job we're dealing with servers and 628 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:23,200 and 629 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,350 and you know all this kind of stuff and one 630 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:25,360 you know all this kind of stuff and one 631 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,389 you know all this kind of stuff and one of the things we've been talking about 632 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:26,399 of the things we've been talking about 633 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:27,670 of the things we've been talking about lately is getting 634 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:27,680 lately is getting 635 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,870 lately is getting our own server and so what you know with 636 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:30,880 our own server and so what you know with 637 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,310 our own server and so what you know with this story makes me think 638 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:32,320 this story makes me think 639 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,310 this story makes me think are we at the point where we could run 640 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:36,320 are we at the point where we could run 641 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,829 are we at the point where we could run uh you know take like a hosting server 642 00:10:39,829 --> 00:10:39,839 uh you know take like a hosting server 643 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:42,949 uh you know take like a hosting server or you know you know a cloud server and 644 00:10:42,949 --> 00:10:42,959 or you know you know a cloud server and 645 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:46,470 or you know you know a cloud server and run it off you know a rock pro 64 or 646 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:46,480 run it off you know a rock pro 64 or 647 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,069 run it off you know a rock pro 64 or something sure why not where you've got 648 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:48,079 something sure why not where you've got 649 00:10:48,079 --> 00:10:48,790 something sure why not where you've got it hooked up 650 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:48,800 it hooked up 651 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,069 it hooked up to you know a whole bunch of terabyte 652 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:52,079 to you know a whole bunch of terabyte 653 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:53,110 to you know a whole bunch of terabyte hard drives through 654 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:53,120 hard drives through 655 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,269 hard drives through usb or something for the storage space 656 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:55,279 usb or something for the storage space 657 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:56,949 usb or something for the storage space but that not even usb 658 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:56,959 but that not even usb 659 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:59,829 but that not even usb like i think well and it has usb 3 but 660 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:59,839 like i think well and it has usb 3 but 661 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:01,269 like i think well and it has usb 3 but think about um 662 00:11:01,269 --> 00:11:01,279 think about um 663 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:04,470 think about um iscsi yeah sure right good example 664 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:04,480 iscsi yeah sure right good example 665 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,910 iscsi yeah sure right good example um but the data center isn't i mean sbcs 666 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:07,920 um but the data center isn't i mean sbcs 667 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,310 um but the data center isn't i mean sbcs flip the economics of the whole 668 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:10,320 flip the economics of the whole 669 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,829 flip the economics of the whole situation on its head 670 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:11,839 situation on its head 671 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,790 situation on its head because rather than having one intel 672 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:14,800 because rather than having one intel 673 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,829 because rather than having one intel server with two 674 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:15,839 server with two 675 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:19,350 server with two xeon processors and 32 cores and 676 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:19,360 xeon processors and 32 cores and 677 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,990 xeon processors and 32 cores and and which are like gigs of ram power 678 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:22,000 and which are like gigs of ram power 679 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:22,470 and which are like gigs of ram power hogs 680 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:22,480 hogs 681 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,630 hogs and super expensive yeah rather than 682 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:24,640 and super expensive yeah rather than 683 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,550 and super expensive yeah rather than having one of those to do 10 different 684 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:26,560 having one of those to do 10 different 685 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,190 having one of those to do 10 different things 686 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:27,200 things 687 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,870 things you just have 10 single board computers 688 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:28,880 you just have 10 single board computers 689 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,550 you just have 10 single board computers doing those 10 different things and your 690 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:30,560 doing those 10 different things and your 691 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:31,430 doing those 10 different things and your cost 692 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:31,440 cost 693 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,910 cost not only up front goes way down but your 694 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:33,920 not only up front goes way down but your 695 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,350 not only up front goes way down but your cost ongoing 696 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:35,360 cost ongoing 697 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,509 cost ongoing for the you know the actual power that 698 00:11:37,509 --> 00:11:37,519 for the you know the actual power that 699 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:38,470 for the you know the actual power that you're using 700 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:38,480 you're using 701 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,630 you're using the heat that you're generating and the 702 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:40,640 the heat that you're generating and the 703 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,670 the heat that you're generating and the noise 704 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:41,680 noise 705 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,590 noise from those big old servers i mean it's 706 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:43,600 from those big old servers i mean it's 707 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,949 from those big old servers i mean it's really flipping it on its head 708 00:11:44,949 --> 00:11:44,959 really flipping it on its head 709 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:48,310 really flipping it on its head but keep in mind mac apple 710 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:48,320 but keep in mind mac apple 711 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,150 but keep in mind mac apple are actually pushing their macbook pros 712 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:50,160 are actually pushing their macbook pros 713 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,509 are actually pushing their macbook pros and the macbook air 714 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:51,519 and the macbook air 715 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:54,870 and the macbook air and yes and their mac lineup of 716 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:54,880 and yes and their mac lineup of 717 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,590 and yes and their mac lineup of hardware into the arm architecture as 718 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:57,600 hardware into the arm architecture as 719 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,470 hardware into the arm architecture as well that's right 720 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:58,480 well that's right 721 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,870 well that's right run processors so we're really you know 722 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:00,880 run processors so we're really you know 723 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,069 run processors so we're really you know it's not just 724 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:02,079 it's not just 725 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:03,750 it's not just single board computer hobbyist stuff 726 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:03,760 single board computer hobbyist stuff 727 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,509 single board computer hobbyist stuff anymore we're talking max 728 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:05,519 anymore we're talking max 729 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,509 anymore we're talking max yeah which is huge and if we're talking 730 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:07,519 yeah which is huge and if we're talking 731 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:08,870 yeah which is huge and if we're talking max which are 732 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:08,880 max which are 733 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,590 max which are you know they have that kind of aura 734 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:11,600 you know they have that kind of aura 735 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,629 you know they have that kind of aura about them of being 736 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:12,639 about them of being 737 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,550 about them of being an innovative company and they push 738 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:14,560 an innovative company and they push 739 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:15,829 an innovative company and they push trends and and 740 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:15,839 trends and and 741 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:17,590 trends and and and they kind of shift the industry in 742 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:17,600 and they kind of shift the industry in 743 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,030 and they kind of shift the industry in in so many ways 744 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:19,040 in so many ways 745 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,030 in so many ways um when are we going to start seeing 746 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:21,040 um when are we going to start seeing 747 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,150 um when are we going to start seeing real good 748 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:22,160 real good 749 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,269 real good solid servers like 1u 750 00:12:25,269 --> 00:12:25,279 solid servers like 1u 751 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:27,430 solid servers like 1u 2u3u servers that we can stick in our 752 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:27,440 2u3u servers that we can stick in our 753 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,829 2u3u servers that we can stick in our server rack in place of those intel 754 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:29,839 server rack in place of those intel 755 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:32,470 server rack in place of those intel equivalents that absolutely happen well 756 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:32,480 equivalents that absolutely happen well 757 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,990 equivalents that absolutely happen well we want to hear your thoughts let us 758 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:34,000 we want to hear your thoughts let us 759 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,949 we want to hear your thoughts let us know 760 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:34,959 know 761 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:38,710 know would you use an arm based 762 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:38,720 would you use an arm based 763 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,670 would you use an arm based single board computer to run your server 764 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:41,680 single board computer to run your server 765 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:42,790 single board computer to run your server where do you think this is going to take 766 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:42,800 where do you think this is going to take 767 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,629 where do you think this is going to take things let us know comment below 768 00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:44,639 things let us know comment below 769 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,190 things let us know comment below send us in your thoughts don't miss the 770 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:47,200 send us in your thoughts don't miss the 771 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,269 send us in your thoughts don't miss the other stories we're following this week 772 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:49,279 other stories we're following this week 773 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:51,350 other stories we're following this week first 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