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If you could give one advice to a legal professional,

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maybe that was where you were, five or six years ago,

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maybe coming out of private practice,

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or maybe looking to move the steps that you have,

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what would that advice be?

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So I'm going to give some advice to a very specific narrow set.

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And those are the young lawyers right now that maybe

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are a little bit nervous about some of the changes that are happening,

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some of the economic challenges that are coming about.

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They have some fear that they won't be able to develop

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their career the way that they want want because of those challenges.

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So I graduated law School in 2009,

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which was obviously the spring, right after the 2008 economic collapse,

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famously a terrible time to graduate with a law degree

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and start looking for your first legal role.

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And I was impacted by it.

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And so, I had an offer before all of that happened

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to start at a law firm and to do employment litigation.

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And I thought that's what I was going to do and I was going to love it.

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And then everything fell apart.

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And when I showed up at that law firm, the answer was,

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we don't have enough work in that area for you to do.

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You have a job and your job is to just do whatever comes through the door.

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So from day one, a generalist.

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And I never stopped.

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And so as a result, when a decade after that, it came time for me

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to enter into an in-house role, I was perfectly equipped for it.

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And I did not know that at the time.

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And so what I would say to young, early-stage lawyers right now,

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who maybe think that their career is set in a different way

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because of some economic challenges

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or some other shifts that are happening,

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is to not lament that which you might have lost and instead

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look at what is in front of you and what it can become.

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I leaned into it, it worked out great for me.

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And who knows, maybe I wouldn't be in this role today,

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had not all of those things happened.