1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,958 This is a Dynamike Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,366 --> 00:00:28,469 Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films 3 00:00:28,829 --> 00:00:33,453 and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters and stat-based 4 00:00:33,614 --> 00:00:39,178 battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And Happy New Year 5 00:00:39,199 --> 00:00:44,843 everyone! Yeah, welcome to 2024! Yeah, and this year Jonathan and I will have had this podcast 6 00:00:44,883 --> 00:00:50,949 running for a total of 8 years. Holy shit. 8 years, people. We started this show in 2016. 7 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:57,152 And holy crap, it's been going on a while. Like, if you honestly told me that there were enough 8 00:00:57,212 --> 00:01:01,875 Marvel and DC characters to put in these many duels and this many Marvel and DC related media 9 00:01:01,915 --> 00:01:07,358 to review, I would have told you to go fuck yourself. Geez. All right. It's kind of a dream 10 00:01:07,398 --> 00:01:12,881 come true, right? For comic book fans, 2023 may go down in history as the year that comic 11 00:01:12,921 --> 00:01:18,964 book fatigue finally set in. But honestly, I'm still enjoying most films. Yeah. Who's not 12 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:24,384 fatigued? This guy right here. I'm pointing to myself because 2023 had a lot of great stuff 13 00:01:24,424 --> 00:01:29,188 come out for Marvel and DC. And in this episode, our annual Brothers Awards episode, we will 14 00:01:29,228 --> 00:01:34,173 award the best that the company has produced. Yeah, this is the eighth annual Brothers Award 15 00:01:34,213 --> 00:01:39,637 episode. Of course, we named it the Brothers Awards off of the DC versus Marvel comic book 16 00:01:39,657 --> 00:01:46,123 and mini series that came out in the mid 90s, which depicted two cosmic entity twin brothers 17 00:01:46,423 --> 00:01:51,620 that each represented both Marvel and DC. So we figured that the name of the award was fitting. 18 00:01:52,181 --> 00:01:57,926 Yeah, and we represented those cosmic entities as little statues that we award these films. 19 00:01:58,026 --> 00:02:03,392 You could check out the images of these awards on our Instagram. Little statues? I've always 20 00:02:03,432 --> 00:02:07,576 imagined them as being like pretty big fucking statues, dude. I thought they were like Oscar 21 00:02:07,636 --> 00:02:13,794 sized, you know? No, no, we're thinking like Statue of Liberty, bro. All right. Before we 22 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:17,116 get into our awards, we're going to break down the latest comic book movie news that came 23 00:02:17,136 --> 00:02:21,278 out this past week, of which there was none. Partially because Jonathan and I are recording 24 00:02:21,318 --> 00:02:26,241 this episode early, but also because, you know, we're like in a dead zone in terms of movie 25 00:02:26,281 --> 00:02:31,845 news. Yeah, it's pretty quiet during the holidays. But, we do have a No Prize to award and a new 26 00:02:31,885 --> 00:02:35,807 question of the week for you guys. As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, 27 00:02:36,087 --> 00:02:39,969 so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. 28 00:02:40,722 --> 00:02:45,095 Our artificially intelligent dual simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners 29 00:02:45,115 --> 00:02:51,218 though, so listen up. Why hello there. 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And the newest show in the Dynamite Podcast Network, Console Combat, 45 00:04:23,419 --> 00:04:27,821 hosts John and Dean find out who would win in fights between your favorite video game characters. 46 00:04:28,141 --> 00:04:32,812 In yesterday's episode... They speculated on who would win between Joker from the Batman 47 00:04:32,872 --> 00:04:39,818 Arkham games and Revolver Ocelot from the Metal Gear games. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click 48 00:04:39,878 --> 00:04:44,682 on the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the Dynamike Podcast Network. 49 00:04:45,182 --> 00:04:51,487 But with that out of the way, quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award Marvel used to 50 00:04:51,507 --> 00:04:57,572 give out to fans. Our version, the dynamic dual no prize is a digital award we post on Instagram 51 00:04:57,752 --> 00:05:02,655 and in our email newsletter. for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question 52 00:05:02,675 --> 00:05:07,897 of the week. In last week's question, we asked, which actor would you choose to recast Kang 53 00:05:07,957 --> 00:05:13,299 in the MCU and why? Of course, that was coming up with the news that Jonathan Majors was fired 54 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:19,362 as King of the Conqueror from Marvel. We got three answers here. So, you know, two honorable 55 00:05:19,382 --> 00:05:23,363 mentions and one no prize winner. Let's go ahead and run them down. Our first honorable mention 56 00:05:23,403 --> 00:05:29,902 goes to Chumnu, who said, Hello, if I could recast Kang, I would probably recast. Busta 57 00:05:29,962 --> 00:05:37,808 Rhymes because you know, he can portray like a, what's it called, like a menacing type of 58 00:05:37,848 --> 00:05:45,154 demeanor. And I just feel like he would fit the role, you know, because Kang is very menacing 59 00:05:45,174 --> 00:05:51,480 himself. So thank you for your time. Thank you for listening. So Cham Ngu gave the answer 60 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,724 of Busta Rhymes. Honestly, I've only ever seen Busta Rhymes in one movie and that was Halloween 61 00:05:56,764 --> 00:06:05,631 Resurrection. And he was Fucking horrible in that movie. This is a horrible answer. Everyone 62 00:06:05,651 --> 00:06:09,654 knows that if you're gonna hire a rapper to play King of the Conqueror, it's either gotta 63 00:06:09,674 --> 00:06:17,541 be Ice Cube or Ice T. One of the ice guys. Not vanilla ice. Fuck that guy. But I think Ice 64 00:06:17,581 --> 00:06:22,565 T could pull it off. He kinda has a cool demeanor. He's a little up there in age. So is Cube though. 65 00:06:22,585 --> 00:06:28,970 They're all getting older. It's so sad. Or, or, hear me out. You hire Coolio? And it turns 66 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:34,892 out that his character from the director's cut of Daredevil was also Kang. He was a Kang variant. 67 00:06:35,072 --> 00:06:45,577 Coolio's dead, bro. Oh no! Really? Yes! I didn't know that! Dude. Whoops. I mean, we have AI 68 00:06:45,597 --> 00:06:51,119 now. It's fine. You may as well said Tupac or something. Jesus. Oh, fuck you. I know he's 69 00:06:51,339 --> 00:06:55,681 dead. Anyway, let's go to move on to our next honorable mention after that poor showing from 70 00:06:55,721 --> 00:07:01,700 Jonathan here. Our next honorable mention goes to Andrew Shunk, who said, Hey guys, Andrew 71 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:11,684 Shunk here. I would cast Christopher Judge for Kang. So this is kind of a very dark horse, 72 00:07:11,864 --> 00:07:18,667 but he's from the Stargate SG-1 series. He's also the voice of Kratos from the God of War 73 00:07:18,707 --> 00:07:26,710 series. I think it's something where he could pull it off. Yeah, Christopher Judge had a 74 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:31,992 prominent role in the Stargate SG-1 series. He's one of the other dimensional tough guys, 75 00:07:32,272 --> 00:07:35,994 basically. I don't know. I never watched the show, but I know of the character. He's kind 76 00:07:36,034 --> 00:07:40,436 of like a interesting looking face. Yeah, he was in The Dark Knight Rises, although it was 77 00:07:40,456 --> 00:07:45,478 a very minor role. He was like assassin number three or something like that. Interesting. 78 00:07:45,938 --> 00:07:52,301 But I would say that he has an interesting look. I guess he's a decent actor. I never really 79 00:07:52,321 --> 00:07:58,168 watched the Stargate TV series. Yeah. But I wonder if he's maybe not a big enough name 80 00:07:58,208 --> 00:08:03,251 for Kang, someone who, you know, the MCU is hindering their entire multiverse saga on. 81 00:08:03,691 --> 00:08:07,994 I don't know. I mean, he has fan cred, I would guess. But I just don't think he's that great 82 00:08:08,014 --> 00:08:12,556 of an actor, though far be it for me to judge anybody on a show that I have not seen. So 83 00:08:12,596 --> 00:08:16,879 who knows? Did you know that Jason Momoa was on one of the Star Gate shows? I did know that. 84 00:08:16,939 --> 00:08:22,374 Yeah. He's on Stargate Atlantis. A precursor of things to come. So great answer Andrew Shunk, 85 00:08:22,515 --> 00:08:29,020 but the winner of this week's no prize is Travis Herndon, who said, Hey guys, Travis here. So 86 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:34,625 my pick would have to be Chuck Woody Wooji. I think he did an amazing job in Guardians 87 00:08:34,665 --> 00:08:41,191 3 and I think he could pull off being Kang. Now I know he's already played high evolutionary 88 00:08:41,291 --> 00:08:46,556 before, but you can easily have it and not only he stood the new variant, but you can even 89 00:08:46,616 --> 00:08:52,479 have it at Kang. Kang was a different Kang variant that just took a different path compared to 90 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:58,361 the other versions of Kang. So that's my pick. Honestly, I don't love any of these answers, 91 00:08:58,401 --> 00:09:03,243 but I do have to say that Chuck Woody Iwuji is the best actor out of the bunch. That's 92 00:09:03,263 --> 00:09:07,065 true. Yeah, that's why Travis Herndon wins this award. Yeah, I didn't love any of the answers 93 00:09:07,345 --> 00:09:13,948 either, but they were in fact answers. And yeah, Chudwuki is really solid as he proved in the 94 00:09:13,988 --> 00:09:18,806 Peacemaker television show and in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. With the nature of the 95 00:09:18,886 --> 00:09:24,270 multiverse, you can literally cast anybody and say that they're just a variant. So, that's 96 00:09:24,290 --> 00:09:29,514 why I don't hate this answer. But also, it would be weird for the high evolutionary to be a 97 00:09:29,574 --> 00:09:34,017 variant of Kang, I feel. Who knows, it may just have been a variant who wasn't interested in 98 00:09:34,077 --> 00:09:39,641 time, but more interested in biology. They can make it work if they needed to. You know, rumors 99 00:09:39,861 --> 00:09:44,864 are that Mads Mikkelsen, who played Kasellius in the Doctor Strange movie, is being courted 100 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:50,676 for the role of Victor Von Doom. I also hate that. Well the idea there, according to fan 101 00:09:50,696 --> 00:09:55,418 theories, is that they would actually retcon the character of Casselius so that it was an 102 00:09:55,598 --> 00:10:02,122 alias for Victor Von Doom as he was studying to be a sorcerer. You know, in the comics Victor 103 00:10:02,402 --> 00:10:06,825 was learning magic as a way to circumvent death, which is exactly what Casselius' motivations 104 00:10:06,885 --> 00:10:10,987 were in Doctor Strange. And you know, he already has the fucked up face because of what the 105 00:10:11,007 --> 00:10:16,530 Dark Dimensions forces did to it, so it could work. I take it back. that's actually kind 106 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:22,074 of brilliant. I don't hate it, honestly. Well, if you had to recast Kang, who would you cast? 107 00:10:22,574 --> 00:10:27,598 Well, I think the correct answer here was John Boyega, who played Finn in the Star Wars sequel 108 00:10:27,638 --> 00:10:31,861 trilogy. The guy who was done dirty in the Star Wars franchise, and I think he deserves some 109 00:10:31,901 --> 00:10:36,244 redemption in the Marvel universe. He has gone on Twitter saying he's not interested in the 110 00:10:36,284 --> 00:10:40,947 role, but I think for the right price, anybody would be interested. Seriously, if I was coming 111 00:10:40,967 --> 00:10:45,651 to Feige, I'd be like, what's the number? Just tell me the number. Write it down, write it 112 00:10:45,691 --> 00:10:54,358 down. I'll add a zero. As in I'll add a plus sign and then zero. Geez, final offer. Anyway, 113 00:10:54,838 --> 00:10:58,241 thanks to everyone who called in this week, guys. Congrats to Travis Herndon for winning 114 00:10:58,281 --> 00:11:02,304 this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned 115 00:11:02,324 --> 00:11:06,347 to later on this episode when we'll be asking another Question of the Week. And now that 116 00:11:06,367 --> 00:11:08,689 that's done, on to the Question of the Week. 117 00:11:13,134 --> 00:11:18,556 So now that Aquaman and The Last Kingdom has been released, the DCEU has come to an end. 118 00:11:18,936 --> 00:11:26,419 And we want to know, now that it's finished, what would you say are the top three DCEU films 119 00:11:26,819 --> 00:11:31,181 and why? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in 120 00:11:31,201 --> 00:11:35,243 the bottom right hand corner of the screen which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your 121 00:11:35,263 --> 00:11:38,644 message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we 122 00:11:38,664 --> 00:11:43,192 include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer... and award that person a Dynamic Duel 123 00:11:43,232 --> 00:11:47,739 No Prize that we'll post to Instagram and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before 124 00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:48,961 January 6th. 125 00:11:56,206 --> 00:12:00,369 But I think now we're ready to move on to the main event of this episode, where we award 126 00:12:00,409 --> 00:12:04,814 the best that has come out from Marvel in DC in the year 2023. We're going to go ahead and 127 00:12:04,834 --> 00:12:09,818 roll out the red and blue striped carpet. We're going to get in our tuxes. Let's go ahead and 128 00:12:09,838 --> 00:12:12,601 move into the 2023 Brothers Awards. 129 00:12:21,646 --> 00:12:25,508 With all of the guests have made their way into the auditorium where we're presenting the awards 130 00:12:25,668 --> 00:12:32,211 of which there are 10 categories. Best trailer, best original music, best new on-screen character, 131 00:12:32,672 --> 00:12:42,377 best villain, best hero, best moment, best actress and best actor, best series or special, and 132 00:12:42,417 --> 00:12:48,220 finally best picture. There was so much media to pour over for Marvel and DC both on the 133 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:53,280 small screen and the big screen. When it came to Marvel specifically, the media that was 134 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:59,624 eligible that was released in 2023 are Ants Man and the Wasp Quantumania, Guardians of 135 00:12:59,664 --> 00:13:08,431 the Galaxy Vol. 3, Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, Secret Invasion Season 1, Loki Season 2, The 136 00:13:08,491 --> 00:13:11,313 Marvels, and What If Season 2. 137 00:13:17,346 --> 00:13:23,209 Harley Quinn, a very problematic Valentine's Day special, Legion of Superheroes, Shazam! 138 00:13:23,329 --> 00:13:31,453 Fury of the Gods, Batman! The Doom that came to Gotham, Titans Season 4, The Flash, Justice 139 00:13:31,493 --> 00:13:38,237 League Warworld, Blue Beetle, My Adventures with Superman Season 1, Harley Quinn Season 140 00:13:38,337 --> 00:13:46,221 4, Doom Patrol Season 4, Merry Little Batman, and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. Holy shit! 141 00:13:46,421 --> 00:13:51,573 It's a lot. A spoiler warning, if you haven't seen any of these movies or shows from the 142 00:13:51,593 --> 00:13:58,137 past year, there is the potential that we will spoil something for the nominees this episode. 143 00:13:58,678 --> 00:14:02,440 Yeah, DC had way too much stuff come out this year, like almost double the amount of Marvel's 144 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,523 projects. It was just too much because no one cares about DC. Are we gonna have to throw 145 00:14:06,583 --> 00:14:12,227 down on this stage? Is that what's gonna happen? It depends on what I think of your words. But 146 00:14:12,247 --> 00:14:17,151 let's go ahead and hear them, starting with our first category. best trailer. Trailers 147 00:14:17,231 --> 00:14:22,474 exist to get us excited for upcoming films and television series. They are marketing material 148 00:14:22,735 --> 00:14:28,338 that show us the tone and tease the story. If they're done right, which they often are when 149 00:14:28,378 --> 00:14:33,862 it comes to Marvel and DC projects, it gets us fans all aboard the hype train. Yeah, these 150 00:14:33,882 --> 00:14:39,346 trailers not only got fans boarded upon the hype train, they also smashed barriers of doubt 151 00:14:39,686 --> 00:14:45,034 and uncertainty to make everyone super excited. At least until the films came out. Yeah, sometimes 152 00:14:45,054 --> 00:14:49,656 the trailer is actually better than a movie. Very true. But let me list the nominees for 153 00:14:49,936 --> 00:14:57,180 best DC trailer this year. The nominees are Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom official trailer. 154 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,541 If you lead, the Seven Kingdoms will follow. 155 00:15:06,978 --> 00:15:09,149 Blue Beetle official trailer. 156 00:15:15,216 --> 00:15:15,601 choice 157 00:15:18,934 --> 00:15:26,753 The Flash official trailer 2. You wanna get nuts? Let's get nuts. 158 00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:35,255 Shazam! Fury of the Gods official trailer 2 159 00:15:44,894 --> 00:15:50,758 It's a great list. I'm going to guess that your ward is going to the Flash. The Akuma trailer 160 00:15:50,778 --> 00:15:54,219 was also pretty good, but we got it so late in the game that it was kind of lacking in 161 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,542 that aspect. But the Flash, I think, actually got us really excited at the time it came out 162 00:15:58,642 --> 00:16:04,825 because it gave us the best look into what looked like a really exciting riff on the Flashpoint 163 00:16:04,865 --> 00:16:13,346 story. And the winner is the Flash official trailer 2. Called it. You guessed right. That 164 00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:17,769 flash trailer, I mean, all of the trailers for the flash were amazing, but that one specifically 165 00:16:17,809 --> 00:16:24,073 got me super pumped because I had so many great moments within it. It felt very Snyder in a 166 00:16:24,093 --> 00:16:28,917 way to me, in a way that I tried to capture emotion and just this awesome spectacle because 167 00:16:28,977 --> 00:16:35,241 the visuals were pretty incredible. The score was sweeping and heartfelt. And you can't top 168 00:16:35,281 --> 00:16:41,245 the nostalgia factor of hearing Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne say, you want to get nuts? OK. 169 00:16:41,950 --> 00:16:47,873 Let's get nuts. And the trailer was nuts. I really like the shot where it was the two flashes 170 00:16:48,073 --> 00:16:53,716 and Supergirl like coming at the camera as the backdrop was like zooming out, you know. Yeah, 171 00:16:54,036 --> 00:16:59,379 that was a neat effect. I also really like the shot where Michael Keaton's Batman ejects from 172 00:16:59,419 --> 00:17:03,581 the Batplane as it's like exploding in the air. There was just a lot of exciting things to 173 00:17:03,921 --> 00:17:07,924 get thrilled over. Yeah, yeah. There's also the shot at the very end that closed out the 174 00:17:07,964 --> 00:17:13,659 trailer where we see Batman diving through the night sky. And the Batplane is in the distance 175 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:18,602 against the moon. What a beautiful shot. I was so good. I was so unbelievably pumped for this 176 00:17:18,642 --> 00:17:22,725 movie. For sure. Yeah, I mean, I think this is maybe one of the instances where the trailer 177 00:17:22,765 --> 00:17:26,407 actually was better than the movie, but you know, a lot of people had a lot of different 178 00:17:26,427 --> 00:17:30,610 feelings on the flash. Let's go to move on to the Marvel best trailer. You're right, hold 179 00:17:30,690 --> 00:17:36,054 on. Let's strike one. You had salt DC two more times. We are throwing down on this stage. 180 00:17:36,514 --> 00:17:42,179 I've been salted DC like 10 times already this episode. Strike one. All right. I won't stand 181 00:17:42,219 --> 00:17:42,559 for it. 182 00:17:52,403 --> 00:18:02,372 one thing. What's that... time? Echo official trailer You have so much pain in you 183 00:18:06,866 --> 00:18:12,909 Someone's rage. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, new trailer. 184 00:18:17,252 --> 00:18:17,435 ride. 185 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:24,279 The Marvels teaser trailer. 186 00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:29,108 team. Oh no we're not a team. 187 00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:40,152 I'm trying to think of which of those trailers got me most pumped to see the show. I think 188 00:18:40,552 --> 00:18:45,594 the Echo trailer is pretty intriguing in that it's so very different from anything else that 189 00:18:45,614 --> 00:18:52,017 we've received from the MCU television series wise. But I think even more so than that, the 190 00:18:52,037 --> 00:18:58,280 trailer that got me most excited to see a Marvel film was Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. So 191 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:06,224 that's my guess. And the winner is... Echo. official trailer. I mean, did I say Guardians 192 00:19:06,244 --> 00:19:11,789 of the Galaxy? I'd gone with my first pick. I said Echo. Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania, 193 00:19:11,849 --> 00:19:16,733 and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 all had great marketing ahead of those releases, but a lot 194 00:19:16,753 --> 00:19:21,897 of it was kind of to be expected. We knew that they were going to be fun, special effects 195 00:19:21,917 --> 00:19:26,701 driven films, largely sticking to Marvel's brand. I will say that the Marvel's teaser trailer 196 00:19:26,761 --> 00:19:30,984 actually got me really excited for that movie, and that was an instance where maybe the trailer 197 00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:36,675 actually was better than the movie. Even more than all of those other ones, Echo got me super 198 00:19:36,715 --> 00:19:42,537 hyped because I was not looking forward to Echo at all. And when that trailer came out and 199 00:19:42,577 --> 00:19:46,279 we saw how brutal everything is, where we see people like straight up shoot each other in 200 00:19:46,299 --> 00:19:51,101 the face and you know, Kingpin beats a man to death by punching him in the face. It was a 201 00:19:51,161 --> 00:19:57,864 massive signal to fans that the brutality that we were used to from the Netflix shows, specifically 202 00:19:57,904 --> 00:20:03,467 the Daredevil Netflix show was returning. And that is all the news I ever needed to hear. 203 00:20:03,948 --> 00:20:08,212 Yeah, and thank goodness, holy cow, because I was worried for a second when it came to 204 00:20:08,253 --> 00:20:13,238 shows like Hawkeye and She-Hulk and what they did with the Netflix characters. I'm really 205 00:20:13,258 --> 00:20:17,543 glad to see that Marvel Studios is making a course correction. Yeah, and the Echo show 206 00:20:17,563 --> 00:20:21,207 comes out soon here, we'll be reviewing it in just a few weeks. I'm looking forward to it, 207 00:20:21,668 --> 00:20:25,650 mostly because of this trailer specifically. Let's go ahead and move on to our next award, 208 00:20:25,670 --> 00:20:31,612 which is Best Original Music. Now, this award goes to the movie or show that had the best 209 00:20:31,852 --> 00:20:39,234 overall musical original score. Music is a huge factor in the quality of these films and television 210 00:20:39,274 --> 00:20:44,736 shows. A great score can make a great movie even greater, but it can even make a mediocre 211 00:20:44,756 --> 00:20:49,750 movie even greater. And I feel like that's the case for quite a few films. for Marvel and 212 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:55,253 DC this year. Yeah, given that both companies had some mediocre films, but awesome scores 213 00:20:55,333 --> 00:21:01,256 across the board. Let me run down the list of my nominees for DC's Best Original Music. The 214 00:21:01,316 --> 00:21:04,857 nominees are, Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom. 215 00:21:19,534 --> 00:21:20,333 Blue Beetle. 216 00:21:35,054 --> 00:21:35,679 The Flash. 217 00:21:50,582 --> 00:21:51,729 Merry little Batman. 218 00:22:06,498 --> 00:22:12,562 Those all had great scores. Merry Little Batman was a very unique score. But I think you're 219 00:22:12,602 --> 00:22:18,427 going to give the award to the Flash primarily because of how it was able to incorporate so 220 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:26,232 many different themes from other DC heroes across the decades, from the 1989 Batman to even Christopher 221 00:22:26,272 --> 00:22:34,534 Reeve Superman. And the winner is. Blue Beetle. So you are wrong. Largely because I was really 222 00:22:34,594 --> 00:22:40,057 focusing on originality for this award. We had recently heard Denny Elfman's Batman in the 223 00:22:40,117 --> 00:22:45,479 Joss Whedon version of Justice League when that came out in theaters. So it wasn't as exciting 224 00:22:45,499 --> 00:22:51,502 or as nostalgic I think this time around. Unfortunately I did really like the Flash score and I almost 225 00:22:51,522 --> 00:22:57,444 gave it the award. But I decided ultimately to go with Blue Beetle because it was a score 226 00:22:57,644 --> 00:23:02,999 unlike anything we have heard before. And I may be a little bit biased because of my Latin 227 00:23:03,019 --> 00:23:07,583 heritage, but there was just something about the music that I thought was incredibly moving 228 00:23:07,703 --> 00:23:14,329 and touching and nostalgic. Not only that, but I also really liked the music in the movie 229 00:23:14,349 --> 00:23:20,554 that wasn't original. There were some timeless mariachi classics like Sinti and Sabor a mi 230 00:23:20,634 --> 00:23:26,679 from Los Panchos that just made the movie even more moving for me. Yeah, I would describe 231 00:23:26,719 --> 00:23:32,643 the Blue Beetle score as mostly electronic with some like Latin Beats, some industrial stuff 232 00:23:32,663 --> 00:23:37,327 a little bit too. It wasn't like a super sleek score. It kind of had some heaviness to it, 233 00:23:37,347 --> 00:23:42,211 you know? And it was also semi nostalgic in that it kind of invoked 90s vibes with like 234 00:23:42,251 --> 00:23:46,895 its synthetic electronic score, like you mentioned. So yeah, I thought it was definitely the best 235 00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:52,140 score of the year and a year with a lot of great scores. Yeah, same goes for Marvel. Let me 236 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,564 go ahead and run down the nominees for best Marvel original music. The nominees are Ant-Man 237 00:23:57,584 --> 00:23:59,065 and the Wasp, Quantum Mania. 238 00:24:13,806 --> 00:24:15,993 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 239 00:24:30,846 --> 00:24:32,072 Loki Season 2 240 00:24:46,894 --> 00:24:48,761 Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse. 241 00:25:03,726 --> 00:25:09,028 I'm going to go with Guardians of the Galaxy only because I feel like James Gunn does a 242 00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:14,432 really good job with music. Now of course he's not the composer for that film, but I also 243 00:25:14,492 --> 00:25:18,894 remember the music just being really moving in that film in general. And the winner is 244 00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:25,798 Loki Season 2. Well that of course was going to be my second guess because I also really 245 00:25:25,838 --> 00:25:30,080 like the music in Loki. I'm surprised your second guess was in Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse 246 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:36,713 because that movie nearly got this award. With all the incredible music that was in that movie 247 00:25:36,793 --> 00:25:42,858 between Gwen Stacy's drumming and visiting Spider-Man India's world and Miles Morales' Latin feeling 248 00:25:42,898 --> 00:25:47,602 theme, there was a lot to really like in the Across the Spider-Verse soundtrack. However, 249 00:25:48,163 --> 00:25:54,328 I'm kind of punting that award to maybe the next movie in that franchise, Beyond the Spider-Verse, 250 00:25:54,648 --> 00:25:59,192 and hopefully, you know, the score is equally as good there. But for now, I want to give 251 00:25:59,212 --> 00:26:04,664 the award to Loki Season 2. largely because I think Natalie Holt did excellent work on 252 00:26:04,764 --> 00:26:09,368 both seasons of this television series. You know, for Loki season 1, that almost got the 253 00:26:09,528 --> 00:26:13,351 music award too, but I ended up giving it to WandaVision just because of the varied nature 254 00:26:13,391 --> 00:26:17,474 of all the television themes that I thought were done really well in that show. But Natalie 255 00:26:17,514 --> 00:26:25,240 Holt's Loki score is so moving, so beautiful, and very, very unique among the superhero genre. 256 00:26:25,661 --> 00:26:30,855 With these really... ethereal synths and Nordic feeling orchestral movements. It's just all 257 00:26:30,935 --> 00:26:35,677 so well done. But I just remember one of the things that moved me so much in the final episode 258 00:26:35,777 --> 00:26:40,479 was the music. I think that music closed out the show perfectly. I remember when Loki season 259 00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:45,021 one came out, I had chosen that as my pick for what I thought was going to get the Brothers 260 00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:49,343 Award for Best Music that year. Like you said, it didn't. So I'm really glad that it's winning 261 00:26:49,363 --> 00:26:54,585 this year because it definitely deserves it. The Loki score does a better job than I would 262 00:26:54,625 --> 00:27:00,590 say most. comic book properties of setting the tone. Absolutely. Let's go to move on to our 263 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:07,056 next award, which is best new on screen character. Yeah, like we mentioned earlier on in the podcast, 264 00:27:07,116 --> 00:27:12,460 if you had told us that comic book movies would still be going strong for the most part, eight 265 00:27:12,501 --> 00:27:17,965 years into this podcast, I would not have believed you. The fact that we're still getting new 266 00:27:18,005 --> 00:27:23,690 characters on screen is just a dream come true for any comic book fan. Now, a lot of these 267 00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:28,791 characters we've known and loved from the comics for decades, but the fact that people are getting 268 00:27:28,831 --> 00:27:33,893 to experience them for the first time on screen is one of the true joys of being a fan. For 269 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:39,034 sure. Seeing new characters represented in live action or animation is one of the most exciting 270 00:27:39,094 --> 00:27:44,015 things about being a fan of the source material. We had quite a few new characters for DC this 271 00:27:44,055 --> 00:27:51,097 year, so let's find out who's the best. The nominees are Blue Beetle from Blue Beetle. 272 00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:59,477 Kordax from Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. 273 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:07,981 Space Case from Doom Patrol Season 4. 274 00:28:12,850 --> 00:28:15,297 Supergirl from The Flash. 275 00:28:20,094 --> 00:28:25,140 Obviously this has got to go to Blue Beetle. It's not even a question. I mean, all great 276 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,186 characters, but yeah. My guess is Blue Beetle. Oh, you're so sure of yourself, huh? Yep. The 277 00:28:30,226 --> 00:28:39,151 winner is... Blue Beetle from Blue Beetle. Of course. Yeah, no, this one is probably a giveaway 278 00:28:39,271 --> 00:28:44,134 because the character was just so unbelievably well realized on screen. Of course, it also 279 00:28:44,154 --> 00:28:49,897 doesn't hurt that of the nominees, he was the only starring character. Yeah, Kordax and Space 280 00:28:49,917 --> 00:28:54,300 Case had really minor roles, so did Supergirl to a slightly lesser extent. But yeah, Blue 281 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,002 Beetle is probably one of the characters that we never expected to actually get a movie despite 282 00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:04,265 how cool he was. And to see him finally on the screen and realize actually so well from the 283 00:29:04,305 --> 00:29:09,227 comics. was a great feeling. I don't know if I never expected it, but I definitely always 284 00:29:09,287 --> 00:29:14,448 wanted it because I always thought the character had the potential to be as popular as Spider-Man 285 00:29:14,588 --> 00:29:19,729 because he is essentially in some regards DC's Spider-Man. He just has a really cool look 286 00:29:19,749 --> 00:29:24,331 about him. He's just a really cool character with really cool powers. And it was great again 287 00:29:24,371 --> 00:29:29,112 to see that realized on the big screen. Well, there are a few new characters on Marvel side 288 00:29:29,152 --> 00:29:34,853 as well. So let me go ahead and run down those nominations. The nominees are High Evolutionary. 289 00:29:35,254 --> 00:29:37,401 from Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 3. 290 00:29:42,414 --> 00:29:44,751 Lahori from What If Season 2. 291 00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:52,760 Kang the Conqueror from Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. 292 00:29:57,618 --> 00:30:01,156 Spider-Man 2099 from Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. 293 00:30:06,046 --> 00:30:13,108 Okay, I haven't finished What If Season 2 yet, so I have no idea who that is, but I'm gonna 294 00:30:13,188 --> 00:30:19,150 say that you went with Spider-Man 2099, because I think they did a really good job adapting 295 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:25,993 that character. And the winner is... Kang the Conqueror from Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. 296 00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:33,977 Gosh dang it! You're 0 for 3 so far. Some people may say that Spider-Man 2099 is not a new on-screen 297 00:30:34,017 --> 00:30:38,581 character because he made an appearance in the Into the Spider-Verse movie, the first film 298 00:30:38,601 --> 00:30:43,424 in that franchise. But it was an after credits thing, so I don't think it was really a proper 299 00:30:43,464 --> 00:30:47,987 introduction. I still consider him a new on-screen character for Across the Spider-Verse. And 300 00:30:48,047 --> 00:30:52,110 also, I don't actually think that was a solid adaptation of the character from the comic 301 00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:55,593 books. He was actually very different. Well, I thought they improved upon him, honestly. 302 00:30:56,293 --> 00:31:00,735 I- don't agree with that either. They did. They did. Okay. He was a cool character, just a 303 00:31:01,015 --> 00:31:06,316 slightly different version. But, Kang the Conqueror, played by Jonathan Majors, and like this is 304 00:31:06,577 --> 00:31:11,018 obviously going to be awkward awarding it given that Jonathan Majors is no longer playing the 305 00:31:11,058 --> 00:31:16,039 character. But, I thought he did fantastic in the role. I thought Kang proved to be a great 306 00:31:16,139 --> 00:31:20,161 threat for Ant-Man and the Wasp. And as a fan of the character from the comics, I really 307 00:31:20,201 --> 00:31:25,315 like this take on the character. Well, no, I, you know. He would have been my choice if it 308 00:31:25,375 --> 00:31:30,579 were not for the controversy surrounding the character and sort of the bitter sweetness 309 00:31:30,619 --> 00:31:33,982 that he's not returning to the role. Yeah, I could totally see that. I do want to give a 310 00:31:34,002 --> 00:31:38,645 shout out to Kihori from What If Season 2. She is an original character that was introduced 311 00:31:38,885 --> 00:31:44,330 in that season to Marvel, and what a great way to kick off a character's origin. Let's go 312 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:48,673 ahead and move on to our next award, which is Best Villain. Of course, the hero is only as 313 00:31:48,713 --> 00:31:54,211 good as his villain. And if a movie or show doesn't have an adequate enough threat, then 314 00:31:54,491 --> 00:31:58,732 it's kind of a letdown, right? Villains can really make or break a film. And these are 315 00:31:58,752 --> 00:32:04,254 the best villains that appeared in 2023 that we feel pose the greatest threat to our heroes. 316 00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:09,195 Right. And of course, being a great hero means overcoming great threats. You can't do that 317 00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:14,677 if you have a crappy villain who should be menacing, cunning and powerful. Yeah, that's a great 318 00:32:14,697 --> 00:32:19,002 recipe to put heroes through the wringer. I'm excited to hear who the best DC villains of 319 00:32:19,042 --> 00:32:25,173 2023 are. The nominees are Black Manta from Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom. 320 00:32:30,126 --> 00:32:34,315 General Lane from My Adventures with Superman, season one. 321 00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:42,817 Yogg-Satha from Batman the Doom that came to Gotham. 322 00:32:47,522 --> 00:32:49,812 Joker from Merry Little Batman. 323 00:32:54,530 --> 00:33:00,753 What an eclectic group of villains. Out of the 13 projects that you had to choose from, I 324 00:33:00,773 --> 00:33:03,935 guess I'm a little bit surprised that these are your nominees, although I can't offhand 325 00:33:04,155 --> 00:33:09,159 name you better ones. I'm going to go with Black Manta from Aquaman. That's my guess. And the 326 00:33:09,199 --> 00:33:16,923 winner is... Yogg-Sattha from Batman, the doom that came to Gotham. Wow. All right, I will 327 00:33:16,963 --> 00:33:23,664 not lie. DC had a villain problem this year. Of the 13 projects, it was really hard to come 328 00:33:23,724 --> 00:33:29,228 up with a list of solid villains this year. But once I broke down all of the threats that 329 00:33:29,248 --> 00:33:35,954 the heroes faced, I don't think one was more powerful, more evil, and more successful than 330 00:33:36,074 --> 00:33:41,238 Yogg-Sotha from Batman the Doom that came to Gotham. It was an animated film, fantastic 331 00:33:41,258 --> 00:33:47,347 film, I loved the film, and I thought the villain was next level. Yeah, Batman the Doom that 332 00:33:47,367 --> 00:33:52,892 came to Gotham was an adaptation of a Mike Mignola written Elseworlds series, very Hellboy-esque 333 00:33:52,952 --> 00:33:57,636 in its approach to the character of Batman and his rogues and allies. Well, it was a Lovecraftian 334 00:33:57,676 --> 00:34:02,540 take on the Batman mythos. Yeah, and it was fantastic. I remember loving that movie and 335 00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:07,605 I do remember the tremendous ending that it had. I don't really want to give it away here 336 00:34:07,625 --> 00:34:13,089 because it was just too good to spoil. But yeah, the villain was in some regards, successful. 337 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:18,456 and honestly could kick any other villains ass. Like I'm sure your list of villains wouldn't 338 00:34:18,476 --> 00:34:22,881 be able to hold a candle to Yogg-Sotha. Oh, don't be so sure about that. Let me go ahead 339 00:34:22,901 --> 00:34:29,009 and get into my list of Marvel villains. And the nominees are Darben from the Marvels. 340 00:34:33,806 --> 00:34:36,356 Gravik from Secret Invasion Season 1. 341 00:34:41,058 --> 00:34:44,500 High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 342 00:34:49,314 --> 00:34:52,541 King the Conqueror from Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. 343 00:34:57,362 --> 00:35:02,165 So the way this episode is cut, you probably would not have heard me laughing after you 344 00:35:02,185 --> 00:35:08,290 said Darben from the marvels, but I was like hilariously because she was such a horrible 345 00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:12,333 villain. I don't understand how she made it on your list. So you definitely didn't choose 346 00:35:12,373 --> 00:35:17,677 her. I'm going to guess. And I'm hesitant to do so because I'm 0 for 3 for this movie so 347 00:35:17,697 --> 00:35:25,102 far, I think. But Guardians of the Galaxy's high evolutionary. And the winner is He became 348 00:35:25,142 --> 00:35:33,985 the Conqueror from Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. Clearly, I have a James Gunn bias. And I keep 349 00:35:34,025 --> 00:35:37,667 choosing Guardians of the Galaxy because I just thought it was Marvel's best film this year. 350 00:35:38,207 --> 00:35:44,189 And you don't agree, I guess. High Evolutionary was a great villain. I hated that guy. Maybe 351 00:35:44,229 --> 00:35:48,771 almost too much because I was really pissed that they let him live. But also he was a little 352 00:35:48,791 --> 00:35:52,933 bit annoying with how much he freaking yelled. I did not love Chirwooki Uwuji's performance 353 00:35:53,313 --> 00:35:58,056 in that film. But you know that I liked Jonathan Majors as King of the Conqueror, who I think 354 00:35:58,276 --> 00:36:03,981 also posed a similar level threat to the heroes. Okay, I mean, that's fair. They were definitely 355 00:36:04,041 --> 00:36:10,146 setting him up to be, of course, as we all know, the big bad of Marvel's multiversal saga. And 356 00:36:10,206 --> 00:36:15,070 I guess I'm hoping at some point he gets to the level of Thanos. I just don't think he's 357 00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:20,294 quite there yet. But I think for what they had here, King was the best part about Quantumania. 358 00:36:20,495 --> 00:36:23,377 I don't think you could say the same about the other villains on my list, that the villain 359 00:36:23,397 --> 00:36:28,781 was the best part. That's fair. Yeah, that's absolutely fair. But also, King would not beat 360 00:36:28,821 --> 00:36:34,145 the shit out of Yaksatha. So you're wrong. Yeah, he would. He would go back in time to when 361 00:36:34,265 --> 00:36:40,769 Yaksatha was a little baby and then choke him out. Oh, my gosh. What a strike to bitch. Why 362 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:47,174 strike to ain't nobody dissing Yaksatha? He's like a Lovecraftian god of chaos from when 363 00:36:47,194 --> 00:36:53,510 he was a baby in another dimension outside of King's like perception. There are no dimensions 364 00:36:53,590 --> 00:36:59,794 outside of King's purview. Yes, yes there absolutely are. Sorry. He's a three dimensional being 365 00:36:59,834 --> 00:37:05,277 like you or me. Some would say he's a fourth dimensional being. Oh, okay, well, fuck them 366 00:37:05,377 --> 00:37:13,054 and you. Let's go to move on to our next award, which is Best Hero. Stories have existed ever 367 00:37:13,094 --> 00:37:17,558 since humans came up with language. Going all the way back to the Sumerian times, you had 368 00:37:17,598 --> 00:37:24,424 the hero of Gilgamesh taking on those primordial deities. Heroes mean something to us as a species. 369 00:37:24,765 --> 00:37:28,928 They go through the trials and tribulations of life and teach us lessons that we don't 370 00:37:28,988 --> 00:37:33,472 necessarily have to experience ourselves, but love living vicariously through them. Yeah, 371 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:38,556 everybody loves a hero. Both Marvel and DC had fantastic heroes that displayed all the tenets 372 00:37:38,596 --> 00:37:44,499 of great protagonists like sacrifice, compassion, responsibility, and yes, I think I pulled those 373 00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:52,844 from Merry Little Batman. Well, let me break down the best heroes for DC in 2023. The nominees 374 00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:55,845 are Blue Beetle from Blue Beetle. 375 00:38:00,590 --> 00:38:02,377 Flash from the Flash. 376 00:38:07,298 --> 00:38:10,005 Little Batman from Merry Little Batman. 377 00:38:14,886 --> 00:38:18,775 Superman from My Adventures with Superman season one. 378 00:38:23,542 --> 00:38:27,424 That's a solid list, I think any one of those could take home the prize. But I'm gonna give 379 00:38:27,465 --> 00:38:32,789 it to The Flash largely because of the unique lesson that he learned within his movie specifically. 380 00:38:33,129 --> 00:38:40,334 That's my guess. And the winner is... Superman from My Adventures with Superman, Season 1. 381 00:38:40,755 --> 00:38:47,660 Brung again! I'm actually a little bit surprised. Is it because it was such a wholesome and new 382 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,615 version of Superman character? that but also because I think they really captured the essence 383 00:38:53,835 --> 00:38:59,718 of the character of Superman who is, I would argue, the most heroic archetype that exists 384 00:38:59,798 --> 00:39:05,260 within comic book heroes. He is selfless and he protects the innocent no matter the cost. 385 00:39:05,661 --> 00:39:10,743 We really saw aspects of the character in the My Adventures with Superman show when he was 386 00:39:10,823 --> 00:39:14,985 putting himself in front of bullets and lasers to protect Lois without even knowing that he 387 00:39:15,005 --> 00:39:20,667 was bulletproof or laser proof. It was such a fantastic take on Superman. And as we mentioned 388 00:39:20,727 --> 00:39:26,028 in that review, it's really kind of unfortunate that they didn't use this take in live action. 389 00:39:26,408 --> 00:39:30,749 For sure. Yeah, the My Adventures with Superman cartoon was a great template for a live action 390 00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:35,911 origin story for Superman and his supporting cast. When it comes to other heroes from DC 391 00:39:35,951 --> 00:39:40,592 this year, you know, Blue Beetle really didn't have control of the Blue Beetle suit and become 392 00:39:40,652 --> 00:39:45,953 heroic to the very end. The Flash committed a, you know, arguably selfish act that kind 393 00:39:45,993 --> 00:39:50,788 of... derailed the entire timeline. And little Batman, you know, also a little selfish and 394 00:39:50,808 --> 00:39:55,710 definitely disobedient. I thought Superman definitely epitomized what it means to be a hero. Well, 395 00:39:55,730 --> 00:40:01,853 let's go ahead and see who the best Marvel hero of 2023 was. The nominees are Ant-Man from 396 00:40:01,973 --> 00:40:03,813 Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. 397 00:40:08,546 --> 00:40:11,900 Rocket Raccoon from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 398 00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:18,539 Loki from Loki Season 2. 399 00:40:23,318 --> 00:40:26,399 Miles Morales from Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. 400 00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:36,352 This is also a good list of heroes. You even have a villain on your list. Interesting. I 401 00:40:36,453 --> 00:40:44,677 think I'm going to go with Loki, mainly because the way the show ended with Loki's arc from 402 00:40:44,737 --> 00:40:51,621 villain to hero was so unbelievably well realized. So yeah, Loki, that's my guess. And the winner 403 00:40:51,701 --> 00:41:01,502 is Loki from Loki Season 2. About time! Finally got one right. Damn! Yeah, no, I mean, you're 404 00:41:01,522 --> 00:41:07,524 entirely right. All the reasons that you stated. The arc that Loki went through from his unsuccessful 405 00:41:07,564 --> 00:41:13,885 coup of Earth in the Avengers film, where we saw that variant get arrested by the TVA, transformed 406 00:41:13,925 --> 00:41:21,267 from a selfish ego maniac into the most selfless hero. He basically gives up his entire life 407 00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:27,069 to make sure that everyone else gets to live by overseeing the new branching timelines in 408 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:31,476 the new Marvel multiverse. It was an incredible journey from start to finish. Yeah, it was 409 00:41:31,616 --> 00:41:35,800 unbelievably moving. I'm actually really glad you're giving him the award because I wasn't 410 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,343 even considering him for some reason because I always think of him as a villain. But yeah, 411 00:41:39,363 --> 00:41:44,348 what he did in the show is absolutely heroic. Yeah, his heroic journey was very different 412 00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:49,813 from Superman's in My Adventure with Superman, but no less so heroic. Great choice. Very happy 413 00:41:49,853 --> 00:41:50,353 with that choice. 414 00:41:57,518 --> 00:42:02,039 Let's go ahead and move on to our next award, which is best moments. Now, these are the onscreen 415 00:42:02,059 --> 00:42:06,861 moments from Marvel and DC television and film that we think were the best, whether that means 416 00:42:07,042 --> 00:42:13,424 most moving emotionally or most rousing in terms of action and excitement or just something 417 00:42:13,444 --> 00:42:18,286 that we thought was really cool. You know, cool factor goes a long way for this award. Yeah, 418 00:42:18,346 --> 00:42:23,208 saying that a movie scene had you on the edge of your seat is kind of cliche, but these scenes 419 00:42:23,448 --> 00:42:28,432 absolutely had me on the edge of mind. but were also incredibly memorable, which is what I 420 00:42:28,452 --> 00:42:34,356 would say is the main criteria for this award. Here are my choices for DC's best moment. The 421 00:42:34,416 --> 00:42:40,421 nominees are Aquaman vs Black Manta from Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom. 422 00:42:45,070 --> 00:42:48,501 Final Resolutions from Doom Patrol Season 4. 423 00:42:53,314 --> 00:42:55,421 Hullway Fight from Blue Beetle. 424 00:43:00,086 --> 00:43:02,416 Worlds collide from the Flash. 425 00:43:07,326 --> 00:43:12,750 Oh, those are all great moments. I think the one that really sucker punched me right in 426 00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:17,233 the gut though, the one that I did not see coming and the one that I still can't get over is 427 00:43:17,334 --> 00:43:24,619 Final Resolutions from Doom Patrol Season 4. That's my guess. The winner is... Final Resolutions 428 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,705 from Doom Patrol Season 4. I figured. So I almost gave this award to Worlds Collide from the 429 00:43:31,765 --> 00:43:37,776 Flash. But the more I see that scene, the more sort of it feels out of place with the whole 430 00:43:37,856 --> 00:43:42,878 movie in general, the more I notice just the bad CG of it. I thought it was really cool 431 00:43:42,918 --> 00:43:47,000 in theaters at the time, and I think it's one of the reasons why I gave the film the high 432 00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:52,163 score that I did. But reminiscing on all the different moments from this past year, from 433 00:43:52,243 --> 00:43:59,850 DC, the Doom Patrol finale was absolutely the most moving. It was so- unbelievably bittersweet 434 00:43:59,870 --> 00:44:03,312 to say goodbye to these characters and see how they're going to live out the rest of their 435 00:44:03,352 --> 00:44:09,274 lives, particularly when it came to the very final scene of the show, which is Robotman 436 00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:15,617 witnessing the life of his grandson and then dying as a result of being so at peace with 437 00:44:15,637 --> 00:44:21,439 that. How dare you bring that up again. Like, oh, my heart, it's still broken. Yeah, I think 438 00:44:21,479 --> 00:44:26,381 that one's going to stay with me for a while. So there was no way I couldn't give Doom Patrol 439 00:44:26,501 --> 00:44:32,342 that nod. It was a fantastic show, still one of my favorite DC shows that I would recommend 440 00:44:32,362 --> 00:44:37,167 to anyone. And holy cow if you haven't seen it I'm so unbelievably sorry for spoiling it, 441 00:44:37,287 --> 00:44:42,132 but definitely watch it, it's worth it. Totally for sure. Let's go to move on to the best Marvel 442 00:44:42,172 --> 00:44:47,017 moments. The nominees are, Entangled Wrangle from The Marvels. 443 00:44:51,862 --> 00:44:56,233 Escaping the Spider Society from Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse. 444 00:45:00,842 --> 00:45:03,472 Loki's Ascension from Loki Season 2. 445 00:45:08,106 --> 00:45:11,452 Rockets Lament from Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 3. 446 00:45:16,154 --> 00:45:21,517 Oh man, this is gonna be a hard choice. Um, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're 447 00:45:21,537 --> 00:45:27,342 a big old softy like me and was really affected by the cathartic closure of damn fine television 448 00:45:27,562 --> 00:45:35,427 and go with Loki's Ascension. And the winner is Loki's Ascension from Loki season two. Knew 449 00:45:35,468 --> 00:45:41,932 it! I knew it! Yeah, great guess. I mean, Rocket's Lament was moving, but in a very like depressing 450 00:45:41,992 --> 00:45:48,312 way, right? It wasn't cathartic. Loki's ascension at the end of Loki Season 2 though was cathartic. 451 00:45:48,492 --> 00:45:55,495 It was so satisfying and jaw-dropping and honestly unexpected when he started restoring the multiverse 452 00:45:55,735 --> 00:46:01,258 and you know giving up everything to oversee its existence. A damn fine culmination to the 453 00:46:01,278 --> 00:46:06,220 character and both seasons of the series of Loki. Really couldn't ask for more. Yeah no 454 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,820 I agree like the finale to Doom Patrol Season 4. the finale to Loki season 2 is definitely 455 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:17,465 a memorable one and probably more memorable than any other MCU show that has come out. 456 00:46:17,905 --> 00:46:22,109 I would agree, yeah for sure. Let's go ahead and move on to our next award which is Best 457 00:46:22,369 --> 00:46:27,954 Actress. There are quite a few actresses for both Marvel and DC that really seem to embody 458 00:46:28,114 --> 00:46:32,938 the character from the source material and yet are also capable of making it their own for 459 00:46:32,978 --> 00:46:38,003 the screen. Yeah, they not only embody the character, they also elevate. their roles, I think, to 460 00:46:38,023 --> 00:46:42,407 become something more than what's just lifted off the page. There's some fantastic female 461 00:46:42,547 --> 00:46:46,531 characters from the comics, and we want to celebrate the actresses who brought those characters 462 00:46:46,551 --> 00:46:54,958 to life in 2023. Let's find out the best from DC. The nominees are Alice Lee as Lois Lane 463 00:46:55,198 --> 00:46:57,821 in My Adventures with Superman Season 1. 464 00:47:02,318 --> 00:47:06,061 Bruna Marcazzin as Jenny Cord in Blue Beetle 465 00:47:10,818 --> 00:47:15,769 Michelle Gomez as Madame Rouge in Doom Patrol Season 4. 466 00:47:20,646 --> 00:47:24,153 Sasha Kaie as Supergirl from The Flash. 467 00:47:29,026 --> 00:47:37,932 This is an okay list. Um, I think it was- That's strike three, motherfucker. It's go time. I 468 00:47:38,012 --> 00:47:42,736 think my guess would be Sasha Kaia as Supergirl because although her role was small, I thought 469 00:47:42,756 --> 00:47:47,579 it was impactful. Did you not hear me say it's go time? It's fucking go time. Ready, ready? 470 00:47:48,620 --> 00:47:52,883 That's me slapping you across the face. Punching you, right here. Dude, you're already down 471 00:47:52,903 --> 00:47:58,940 with the one slap. I just Will Smith'd you. Clearly I was still punching afterwards, so 472 00:47:59,721 --> 00:48:09,686 no. And the winner is... Sasha Kaia as Supergirl in The Flash. Yeah, makes sense. I really wanted 473 00:48:09,726 --> 00:48:15,089 to give it to one of the Doom Patrol actresses because I think they're all great in that show. 474 00:48:15,389 --> 00:48:20,372 It's one of the reasons why the show is so great, I believe. Michelle Gomez was definitely the 475 00:48:20,452 --> 00:48:25,295 highlight of this past season because she had the largest role. And yet, she also came across 476 00:48:25,355 --> 00:48:30,098 as slightly annoying. So ultimately, I decided to go with Sasha Kaia as Supergirl from The 477 00:48:30,118 --> 00:48:35,441 Flash just because of her acting ability. I thought she did a fantastic job as the character. 478 00:48:36,074 --> 00:48:40,798 I'm actually kind of sad that we won't get to see more of this version of Supergirl, and 479 00:48:40,858 --> 00:48:45,502 I really hope we get the chance to see Sacha Kaeya in more work because she is extremely 480 00:48:45,542 --> 00:48:49,945 talented. Yeah, in just the 10 or 15 minutes or so that she was on the screen, she really 481 00:48:49,965 --> 00:48:54,469 made her mark on the character of Supergirl, I think. That will be highly influential, I 482 00:48:54,509 --> 00:48:59,413 think, in subsequent depictions. Yeah, not only did she have a really cool look in the movie, 483 00:48:59,574 --> 00:49:06,183 but the way she emoted from sadness to rage to bewilderment. She just did an amazing job. 484 00:49:06,584 --> 00:49:10,187 For sure, yeah, I totally agree with this pick. Let's go ahead and move on to the Marvel side 485 00:49:10,228 --> 00:49:15,553 of things and find out who the best actress there was. The nominees are Olivia Coleman 486 00:49:15,913 --> 00:49:19,317 as Sonya Fallsworth in Secret Invasion, season one. 487 00:49:23,854 --> 00:49:28,231 Karen Gillan as Nebula in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 488 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:37,207 Hailey Steinfeld as Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. 489 00:49:41,822 --> 00:49:45,456 Iman Velani as Ms. Marvel in The Marvels. 490 00:49:50,198 --> 00:49:57,487 Um, I think you're probably going to give this award to Hayley Steinfeld for Across the Spider-Verse. 491 00:49:57,507 --> 00:50:04,515 It was a voice role, but I thought she did fantastic in it. And the winner is... Hayley Steinfeld 492 00:50:04,796 --> 00:50:11,046 as Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. Right again! You're on a roll now, you were 493 00:50:11,066 --> 00:50:16,068 struggling in the beginning. Um, yeah, you're right. Hailey Steinfeld's performance in Across 494 00:50:16,088 --> 00:50:21,491 the Spider-Verse as Spider-Gwen was very on point. I thought she hit all the emotional 495 00:50:21,511 --> 00:50:26,813 beats harder than she needed to. It was really easy to empathize with her character from the 496 00:50:26,873 --> 00:50:31,875 opening narration that she gave while she was drumming to the end scenes when she is assembling 497 00:50:31,915 --> 00:50:35,817 the team to rescue Miles. I thought it was actually an improvement over her performance in the 498 00:50:35,897 --> 00:50:39,841 first Spider-Verse movie. I feel like we really got to know the character a whole lot better 499 00:50:40,101 --> 00:50:44,886 in Across the Spider-Verse. Yeah, it did not hurt that they gave her some really special 500 00:50:44,926 --> 00:50:50,112 moments in this movie. Set in her own universe with her own art style. But honestly, that 501 00:50:50,152 --> 00:50:56,019 wouldn't have meant much if the voice performance is not up to par. Yeah, for sure. I do want 502 00:50:56,039 --> 00:51:01,263 to give a shout out to Iman Valani. from the Marvels. I was heavily considering giving her 503 00:51:01,363 --> 00:51:06,045 this award, largely because she was I think the best part about the Marvels, which is surprising 504 00:51:06,065 --> 00:51:11,247 considering you know she's a new actress. Yeah, I agree. Fantastic job for her film debut. 505 00:51:12,187 --> 00:51:16,769 Finally, Olivia Colman gets nominated for something and doesn't win, right? I thought she was great 506 00:51:16,789 --> 00:51:22,491 in the crown. Let's go to move into our next category, which is best actor. Like the actresses, 507 00:51:22,671 --> 00:51:29,074 the dudes also have a substantial task in bringing these characters Not all of them do it well. 508 00:51:29,615 --> 00:51:35,259 It is quite a feat, I think, to bring something so fantastic to life. Oh yeah, absolutely. 509 00:51:35,339 --> 00:51:40,903 But when they do get it right, there is no greater joy to be had as a comic book fan. Let's go 510 00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:47,548 ahead and hear who the best DC actors were this year. The nominees are Ezra Miller as The Flash 511 00:51:47,728 --> 00:51:49,849 and Young Barry in The Flash. 512 00:51:54,562 --> 00:51:58,808 Jack Quaid as Superman in My Adventures with Superman. 513 00:52:03,606 --> 00:52:07,007 Michael Keaton as Batman in The Flash. 514 00:52:11,798 --> 00:52:15,245 Shalomari Doinya, as Blue Beetle, in Blue Beetle. 515 00:52:19,878 --> 00:52:24,559 I think between Jack Quaid and Ezra Miller, surprisingly, I think I'm gonna go with Ezra 516 00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:29,381 Miller. Despite the fact that he's kind of a shithead in real life, I think he did a good 517 00:52:29,441 --> 00:52:33,983 job portraying two different characters in The Flash, so that's my guess. And the winner is... 518 00:52:35,384 --> 00:52:41,550 Ezra Miller as The Flash and Young Barry in The Flash. I feel like this is the year where 519 00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:45,593 we're probably gonna get some shit for the awards that we're handing out, considering we're handing 520 00:52:45,633 --> 00:52:52,598 awards to Jonathan Majors and Ezra Miller. Yeah, this was definitely a really poor year in terms 521 00:52:52,859 --> 00:52:57,962 of actors for comic book adaptations, considering, you know, we also had Amber Heard thrown into 522 00:52:57,982 --> 00:53:03,226 the mix. People just really did not like a lot of the actors that were in comic book movies 523 00:53:03,246 --> 00:53:08,842 this year, Ezra Miller being one of them, you're right. But despite how... crappy the guy is 524 00:53:08,882 --> 00:53:13,746 in real life throwing chairs at people and stuff like that. There's no denying the strong performance 525 00:53:13,786 --> 00:53:20,911 he gave is not just one but two different characters, actually three, in The Flash. Yeah, despite 526 00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:24,814 the fact that I never thought he was quite suited to the role, he was enjoyable in the movie 527 00:53:24,834 --> 00:53:29,657 and I think he convincingly pulled off different characters. Yeah, there's a lot of people who 528 00:53:29,697 --> 00:53:34,020 don't think that, you know, he was right for Barry Allen, and I could agree, but I also 529 00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:41,144 see where Zack Snyder was coming from when casting him. The Justice League was sort of a five-man 530 00:53:41,164 --> 00:53:46,988 band kind of trope and he fit sort of the silly character archetype that the team needed. Carrying 531 00:53:47,008 --> 00:53:52,611 that into his solo movie, The Flash, I thought he did a tremendous job acting against himself 532 00:53:52,851 --> 00:53:58,254 and with Michael Keaton and everyone else in the cast. Yeah, I'm hoping that both Ezra Miller 533 00:53:58,534 --> 00:54:03,577 and Jonathan Majors are able to kind of redeem themselves in real life so that way these awards 534 00:54:03,717 --> 00:54:07,507 don't age poorly. Oh no, we're definitely gonna get some shit for them. No one's gonna remember 535 00:54:07,547 --> 00:54:11,409 these awards by the time Ezra Miller, Jonathan Majors, and Amber Heard redeem themselves, 536 00:54:11,509 --> 00:54:17,413 if ever. But I'm sticking to it. Sometimes as a fan, you have to separate the art from the 537 00:54:17,473 --> 00:54:21,576 artist if you're looking to get any sort of enjoyment out of these films. Absolutely. Well, 538 00:54:21,596 --> 00:54:26,959 let's go to move on to the best of Marvel's actors this year. The nominees are... Bradley 539 00:54:26,999 --> 00:54:31,281 Cooper as Rocket Raccoon in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 540 00:54:36,078 --> 00:54:39,488 Tom Hiddleston as Loki in Loki Season 2. 541 00:54:44,034 --> 00:54:48,592 Jonathan Majors as Kang the Conqueror in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. 542 00:54:53,354 --> 00:54:57,681 Shamik Moore as Miles Morales in Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. 543 00:55:02,346 --> 00:55:09,389 Wow, this may be the hardest one to guess yet, but I'm gonna take a swing and say Shemeek 544 00:55:09,429 --> 00:55:17,353 Moore from Across the Spider-Verse. And the winner is Tom Hiddleston as Loki in Loki Season 545 00:55:17,413 --> 00:55:22,135 Two. Okay, I mean, that's fair. They all could have won. Honestly, they were all great performances. 546 00:55:22,555 --> 00:55:26,996 They were all fantastic performances. Again, I think a lot of people are already aware, 547 00:55:27,036 --> 00:55:32,837 we're huge fans of the arc that Loki had throughout all of his appearances throughout the MCU and 548 00:55:32,858 --> 00:55:38,419 how it culminated in the way it did at the end of Loki season two. But Tom Hiddleston is a 549 00:55:38,499 --> 00:55:44,281 phenomenal actor. He's honestly an Oscar worthy actor. I think if he just got an Oscar 550 00:55:47,914 --> 00:55:53,198 very technical, brilliant in his deliveries and his choices that he makes. Absolutely. 551 00:55:53,258 --> 00:55:58,623 Yeah, Tom Hiddleston just needs to do like a master class and how to be a fucking badass 552 00:55:58,743 --> 00:56:03,787 actor. But I loved Bradley Cooper as Rocket Raccoon. I think that was his best performance 553 00:56:03,827 --> 00:56:08,090 and it was just so moving from young Rocket to although I don't think he voiced young Rocket 554 00:56:08,211 --> 00:56:12,955 actually, but you know, Rocket's journey was so incredible as well going from basically 555 00:56:13,235 --> 00:56:17,923 this asshole raccoon to such a forgiving creature, you know. for giving the high evolutionary 556 00:56:18,023 --> 00:56:22,087 despite everything that he had gone through. That's why he was also a nominee for best hero. 557 00:56:22,507 --> 00:56:27,792 But yeah, the performance really enhanced that arc. Same goes for Shamik Moore as Miles Morales. 558 00:56:28,293 --> 00:56:32,457 And of course, Jonathan Majors was great as Kang. I thought he was really menacing, but 559 00:56:32,477 --> 00:56:39,664 I'm not about to give an award to a convicted criminal. Okay. Strike four. I don't know what 560 00:56:39,684 --> 00:56:44,516 happens in strike four. I'll tell you what happens, we move on to the next award category, the 561 00:56:44,556 --> 00:56:49,440 penultimate category, which is best series or special. Essentially this category is like 562 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,845 the home media compared to the theatrical releases for Marvel and DC, including both long form 563 00:56:54,885 --> 00:57:01,890 content and shorter content from entire seasons to one hour specials. Sort of, I mean, DC does 564 00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:07,595 release direct to video stuff that is eligible for the best picture category, but you're right, 565 00:57:07,615 --> 00:57:12,654 for the most part, the series or special nominees are mostly enjoyed from home. And honestly, 566 00:57:12,714 --> 00:57:18,076 they're among my favorite projects. A lot of it is long form content, serialized content, 567 00:57:18,536 --> 00:57:23,978 which is very fitting given the source material which also is serialized. I love long form 568 00:57:23,998 --> 00:57:29,160 storytelling. Let me break down the nominees for the best that DC brought this year. The 569 00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:31,981 nominees are Doom Patrol Season 4. 570 00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:38,541 Harley Quinn, season four. 571 00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:45,979 My Adventures with Superman Season 1. 572 00:57:50,606 --> 00:57:52,095 Titans Season 4 573 00:57:56,874 --> 00:58:00,555 It's really gonna come down to My Adventures with Superman season 1 and Doom Patrol season 574 00:58:00,655 --> 00:58:05,997 4 because both were phenomenal. At the end though, I think I'm gonna go with My Adventures with 575 00:58:06,037 --> 00:58:11,600 Superman just because it was less uneven than Doom Patrol season 4. And the winner is... 576 00:58:12,860 --> 00:58:18,502 My Adventures with Superman season 1. I feel like I'm kind of on a roll. I don't know, I'm 577 00:58:18,522 --> 00:58:23,504 not counting. You were right in your reasoning for why My Adventures with Superman beat out 578 00:58:23,564 --> 00:58:28,442 Doom Patrol. As moving as the Doom Patrol was... There were some problems with it. Problems 579 00:58:28,462 --> 00:58:34,085 that did not exist for my adventures with Superman, which was nearly perfect. I loved that series. 580 00:58:34,165 --> 00:58:39,687 I loved the take that they took with the Superman mythos. I loved the animated style that they 581 00:58:39,727 --> 00:58:45,430 did as well. I never would have thought Superman would have worked as a shonen anime, but it 582 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:50,732 absolutely does. They knocked it out of the park and I can't wait for season two. I was 583 00:58:50,772 --> 00:58:55,990 not looking forward to this show. I watched it begrudgingly. And then I walked away super 584 00:58:56,050 --> 00:59:01,353 thrilled that I did because I've never been a fan of Superman really as a Marvel guy And 585 00:59:01,593 --> 00:59:08,396 this show made me a fan which is hugely commendable That's the biggest compliment the show could 586 00:59:08,456 --> 00:59:13,558 ever receive the fact that it made marvelous joe a fan of a dc character You guys heard 587 00:59:13,578 --> 00:59:19,060 it here. Well, I mean, I still like every single other marvel character more than superman, 588 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,555 but uh, Yeah, superman's pretty cool now I'm debating whether or not to give you a strike 589 00:59:24,595 --> 00:59:31,600 five. I definitely think that my praise of the show is greater than the awards that you just 590 00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:37,485 gave it. No, no, there's no award greater than the Brothers Awards. We all know this. Let's 591 00:59:37,525 --> 00:59:42,369 go to move on to Marvel and hear what the best series for that were. The nominees are Loki 592 00:59:42,669 --> 00:59:43,209 Season 2. 593 00:59:47,882 --> 00:59:49,808 Secret Invasion Season 1 594 00:59:54,326 --> 00:59:55,671 What if season two? 595 01:00:00,290 --> 01:00:05,531 You only had three? Wait, what's the fourth nominee? There is no fourth nominee. Holy shit, 596 01:00:05,571 --> 01:00:11,994 Marvel sucked this year! Well, the obvious answer is Loki Season 2. Even though I haven't finished 597 01:00:12,034 --> 01:00:19,277 What If Season 2, I know it's not beating Loki. And the winner is... Loki Season 2. I feel 598 01:00:19,297 --> 01:00:24,658 like I'm on a roll. You're not though. Damn, barely, barely. What if season two is fantastic? 599 01:00:24,818 --> 01:00:29,360 I actually liked it more than what if season one, but you're right, nothing touches Loki 600 01:00:29,380 --> 01:00:33,821 season two. Of course, Secret Invasion is not even part of the discussion. That was a huge 601 01:00:33,881 --> 01:00:38,462 letdown when it absolutely should not have been. Like the worst part about Secret Invasion is 602 01:00:38,482 --> 01:00:42,524 that it did not live up to its potential. And that's an even bigger crime in my book. Loki 603 01:00:42,544 --> 01:00:47,605 season two, I think, surpassed its potential. I think it told an incredible story, as we've 604 01:00:47,625 --> 01:00:52,971 already discussed many times this episode. because Loki has won a ton of awards and deservedly 605 01:00:53,031 --> 01:00:58,494 so. Yeah, no, I agree. Loki has been my favorite Marvel show out of everything that's been put 606 01:00:58,534 --> 01:01:03,416 out on Disney Plus so far. And I'm really, really glad that it went out on such a high note. 607 01:01:03,856 --> 01:01:08,959 It's absolutely deserving of this award. I just can't believe Marvel put out such little content 608 01:01:09,019 --> 01:01:14,481 this year that you can't even come up with four nominations. That is, wow, dropping the ball. 609 01:01:15,018 --> 01:01:18,959 Yeah, I mean, Echo was supposed to come out this year, but they punted it to January and 610 01:01:18,979 --> 01:01:22,660 they didn't have any specials this year. So yeah, I was stuck with three nominees. DC is 611 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:28,021 just crushing it, I guess. Let's go to move on to our final award of the evening, which 612 01:01:28,081 --> 01:01:33,342 is Best Picture for Marvel and DC. You know, this is like the top tier award. Like with 613 01:01:33,362 --> 01:01:37,444 the Oscars, everybody wants to know what the best picture was of the year. Of course, this 614 01:01:37,484 --> 01:01:41,925 is even more important because it pertains to Marvel and DC, who never win Oscars for Best 615 01:01:41,965 --> 01:01:46,246 Picture. But they're damn going to win a Brothers Award. I mean, Black Panther and the Joker 616 01:01:46,506 --> 01:01:50,889 received nominations for best picture. But yeah, why does that matter when they could win a 617 01:01:50,929 --> 01:01:57,972 brother's award? Exactly. Let's find out what the best DC picture is for 2023. The nominees 618 01:01:58,172 --> 01:02:01,033 are Batman, the doom that came to Gotham. 619 01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:06,288 Blue Beetle. 620 01:02:11,086 --> 01:02:11,740 The Flash. 621 01:02:16,607 --> 01:02:17,667 Merry little Batman. 622 01:02:22,358 --> 01:02:26,721 I'm surprised to see Merry Little Batman at this list, but it was such a cute movie that 623 01:02:27,102 --> 01:02:32,727 I guess it deserves to be here among the best. I think it's kind of a toss-up between Blue 624 01:02:32,767 --> 01:02:36,630 Beetle and The Flash, although the Doom that came to Gotham was everything you would ever 625 01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:40,814 want it to be. I'm gonna go with The Flash though, I think you're gonna give Flash best picture. 626 01:02:41,234 --> 01:02:50,774 That's my guess. The winner is... Blue Beetle. Oh shit! Just lost your roll! Ha ha! Okay, 627 01:02:50,834 --> 01:02:56,140 so originally I was giving it to The Flash because for as much hate as it gets, I still think 628 01:02:56,180 --> 01:03:00,705 that's a really good movie. When I first came out of the theater after watching The Flash, 629 01:03:01,285 --> 01:03:07,632 I was so ecstatic that I gave the film a 4.5 rating, which I admit now is probably too high. 630 01:03:07,952 --> 01:03:15,091 I think it's a solid 4 film. I also gave Blue Beetle a 4. And in rewatching these films now 631 01:03:15,111 --> 01:03:19,554 that I own them, I have to say Blue Beetle, in my opinion, is the better movie. I'm finally 632 01:03:19,634 --> 01:03:26,119 glad to see you admit to your bias. Dude, I've admitted to this before. Like, I give wrong 633 01:03:26,179 --> 01:03:31,223 ratings all the time, more frequently than I'm willing to admit. Like, the Joker got a wrong 634 01:03:31,263 --> 01:03:37,247 rating from me. The Flash definitely did. But Blue Beetle did not. It was a fantastic time 635 01:03:37,287 --> 01:03:42,070 at the theater. It's why you go to the theater to see these movies. but it was also a fantastic 636 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:47,994 adaptation of the character and one that I really hope James Gunn continues in the DCU. I agree. 637 01:03:48,575 --> 01:03:52,878 As far as Blue Beetle goes, I think there was very little lacking in terms of what you would 638 01:03:52,938 --> 01:03:57,761 want or expect from a Blue Beetle origin story movie. I don't know if the same could be said 639 01:03:57,781 --> 01:04:01,944 about the other nominees on this list. Like when it comes to the Flash, I think what you 640 01:04:01,964 --> 01:04:06,587 would want and expect is a more direct adaptation of the Flash Point paradox story, but Blue 641 01:04:06,607 --> 01:04:12,211 Beetle, they nailed. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I also loved the family themes that had, as 642 01:04:12,251 --> 01:04:18,273 I mentioned earlier, the music was fantastic and the CG that it had was the best hands down 643 01:04:18,393 --> 01:04:23,095 that DC put out this year. I would totally agree with that. Yeah, the movie looked incredible. 644 01:04:23,516 --> 01:04:28,578 Unlike shots from The Flash or even Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom. Right, the latter of 645 01:04:28,638 --> 01:04:34,240 which wasn't even nominated for this award. Same goes with Shazam Fury of the Gods. Well, 646 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,699 I don't think it'll be hard to guess what my nominations were for Marvel. considering that 647 01:04:37,739 --> 01:04:42,350 Marvel only had four full-length pictures come out this year. So let me run down them. The 648 01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:45,677 nominees are Ants Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. 649 01:04:50,274 --> 01:04:52,148 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 650 01:04:56,802 --> 01:04:57,397 the Marvels. 651 01:05:02,090 --> 01:05:03,820 Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse. 652 01:05:08,558 --> 01:05:14,121 You're probably gonna give it to Across the Spider-Verse, but man, I'm really, really hoping 653 01:05:14,161 --> 01:05:19,484 you actually give it to Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, because I think that was my personal 654 01:05:19,524 --> 01:05:27,629 favorite Marvel film of the year. And the winner is Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Yes! James 655 01:05:27,669 --> 01:05:32,151 Gunn wins, Joseph likes DC. I'm gonna count that as a wrong guess, because I think you 656 01:05:32,171 --> 01:05:38,887 actually guessed that I was gonna pick Spider-Man on that one. No, I- So, Spider-Man Across the 657 01:05:38,907 --> 01:05:42,609 Spider-Verse was incredible. I didn't get to review that one because it came out the same 658 01:05:42,649 --> 01:05:46,991 week that my little baby girl was born. That movie will actually always hold a special place 659 01:05:47,011 --> 01:05:51,634 in my heart because of that. But if I had gotten the chance to review Spider-Man Across the 660 01:05:51,674 --> 01:05:55,656 Spider-Verse with you and Spies, I would have told you how much I loved it. It's actually 661 01:05:55,777 --> 01:06:01,440 probably one of the best animated films I've ever seen. But it's also just half a story. 662 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:08,251 Whereas Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3... was a culmination of a fantastic trilogy of films 663 01:06:08,551 --> 01:06:14,852 and was entirely satisfying as an end to these characters' journeys. Yeah, absolutely. I really 664 01:06:14,892 --> 01:06:19,514 liked the Guardians of the Galaxy films and I don't know, again, maybe I'm just a big softie, 665 01:06:19,534 --> 01:06:24,635 but I really like the way that the arcs ended for the characters that we had grown to love 666 01:06:24,795 --> 01:06:30,957 in the MCU. Rocket Story was incredible. Star-Lord's journey was fantastic. I'm really excited to 667 01:06:30,997 --> 01:06:34,879 see where that goes in the future. I think it would have been hard to conceive of a better 668 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:41,105 way to end that franchise than what James Gunn did with Volume 3. Honestly, if we were giving 669 01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:47,430 one Best Picture award for both Marvel and DC, I would also give it to Guardians of the Galaxy 670 01:06:47,470 --> 01:06:52,514 Volume 3. I thought it was better than any of the movies that DC put out this year, and it 671 01:06:52,554 --> 01:06:58,159 really makes me look forward to what James Gunn can do in the DC universe. Well, Across the 672 01:06:58,179 --> 01:07:02,646 Spider-Verse was also better than anything else DC put out this year, so I mean, I think what 673 01:07:02,686 --> 01:07:08,850 I just heard you say was that Marvel is better than DC this year. So you admit it in 2023. 674 01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:15,633 Yes. In the theater, Marvel was better than DC. And I and I don't think you're going to 675 01:07:15,653 --> 01:07:22,077 find anyone who disagrees with that. Honestly, you heard it here first, folks. Jonathan likes 676 01:07:22,117 --> 01:07:25,699 Marvel more than DC. I'm going to change your name to read on the discord. He's 677 01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:33,699 just wait till the next Brothers Awards. OK. I guarantee you Joker Folly I do is gonna blow 678 01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:40,222 anything that Marvel does out of the water. 2024 is the year of DC. Maybe the year where 679 01:07:40,302 --> 01:07:45,465 DC embarrasses itself by producing a musical that it had no right making. What is it with 680 01:07:45,605 --> 01:07:51,188 Marvel fans and musicals? Musicals are not bad. I just saw Wonka in the theater. I didn't know 681 01:07:51,248 --> 01:07:56,231 it was going to be a musical. It was a musical. It was fantastic. Musicals are not bad. Can 682 01:07:56,271 --> 01:08:02,803 Joaquin Phoenix even sing? You know he was in a band, right? No. Well, now you do. Who wasn't 683 01:08:02,863 --> 01:08:09,888 in a band? You. That's true. But that brings us to the end of this award show, guys. We 684 01:08:09,908 --> 01:08:16,112 hope you had fun recounting the best that Marvel and DC had to offer in the year 2023. Really 685 01:08:16,132 --> 01:08:21,636 looking forward to 2024, kind of largely because Marvel Studios is only putting out one theatrical 686 01:08:21,676 --> 01:08:27,941 release, Deadpool 3, and Sony, oh God, is putting out two movies with Madame Webb and Kraven 687 01:08:27,961 --> 01:08:33,564 the Hunter. So. You might be right, Jonathan. 2024 might be the year of DC. I mean, I'm sure 688 01:08:33,804 --> 01:08:38,326 Deadpool 3 is going to be amazing. I just don't think it's going to be up to the same caliber 689 01:08:38,346 --> 01:08:42,909 of film that Todd Phillips is going to make with Joker Folly, I do. But of course, that's 690 01:08:42,929 --> 01:08:47,111 the only theatrical release that DC is putting out this upcoming year. I feel like we live 691 01:08:47,131 --> 01:08:52,815 in fucking covid times. It's ridiculous. Freaking actor and writer strikes, man. Yeah, those 692 01:08:52,835 --> 01:08:57,457 strikes really delayed a lot. It's a real shame. But luckily, there's a lot to enjoy on the 693 01:08:57,497 --> 01:09:02,652 small screen. this year with television shows. And direct-to-video animated features like 694 01:09:02,712 --> 01:09:08,395 Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths, Watchmen, Aztec Batman, Creature Commandos, Kite Man 695 01:09:08,435 --> 01:09:13,879 Hell Yeah, and Suicide Squad Isakai as well. Not to mention The Penguin. Altogether we're 696 01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:19,222 looking at about 10 DC projects to review in 2024. It's going to be Slim Pickens for Marvel, 697 01:09:19,282 --> 01:09:24,325 it's unclear as to whether or not Agatha, Darkhold Diaries is going to come out in 2024, same 698 01:09:24,345 --> 01:09:29,179 thing with Eyes of Wakanda. your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and Marvel zombies, but we'll see. 699 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,362 Maybe even Ironheart is going to come out this year. I know that Daredevil was pushed to 2025, 700 01:09:33,902 --> 01:09:38,284 so the Brothers Awards might be a little bit more predictable next December. I predict that 701 01:09:38,304 --> 01:09:42,146 I'm going to beat your ass when it comes to guessing what you're going to choose. I predict 702 01:09:42,166 --> 01:09:48,330 I'm going to beat your ass. Period. For life. That does it for this awards episode guys. 703 01:09:48,370 --> 01:09:54,393 Let us know what you thought about it by writing to us at dyna or by visiting us on Instagram 704 01:09:54,433 --> 01:09:58,295 or X. 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Up up and away, true believers. and I give the 720 01:11:20,511 --> 01:11:23,077 best AI award to Ava in Ex Machina. Hubba hubba.