1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,957 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,418 --> 00:00:29,602 Welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:29,642 --> 00:00:35,527 the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. 4 00:00:36,007 --> 00:00:42,833 I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode- Incoming. Whoa, what's 5 00:00:42,873 --> 00:00:49,439 going on AJ9K? Incoming transmission from Diamondback at Console Combat. File name man vmonster.afd. 6 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:58,310 Duel input re-initiated. new fighter selection, Godzilla vs Ultraman. Okay that's weird, so 7 00:00:58,430 --> 00:01:04,255 it seems like our initial episode idea has been scrapped due to this glitch and we are now 8 00:01:04,295 --> 00:01:10,701 going to bring you the matchup of Godzilla vs Ultraman. Crazy! And since this glitch is coming 9 00:01:10,741 --> 00:01:16,466 from Console Combat, we bet that you can probably check out the first part of this duel matchup 10 00:01:16,646 --> 00:01:21,042 over on their podcast. We're just going to be continuing the battle here. Before that, we're 11 00:01:21,062 --> 00:01:24,865 going to break down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there was none! 12 00:01:25,005 --> 00:01:31,149 But we did miss a news item from two weeks ago, and that was the third trailer for Suicide 13 00:01:31,189 --> 00:01:36,613 Squad, Isekai. That's right, folks, this entire episode is brought to you from the Isle of 14 00:01:36,653 --> 00:01:42,036 Japan! Hai! As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to 15 00:01:42,076 --> 00:01:46,940 check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. 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Guys be sure to check out the rest 31 00:03:04,623 --> 00:03:09,546 of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network, especially this week because you will be getting 32 00:03:09,646 --> 00:03:14,249 four times the Godzilla versus Ultraman goodness. As we just stated, you'll get the first part 33 00:03:14,289 --> 00:03:19,533 of this battle in console combat. This episode is just continuing what they started, so be 34 00:03:19,573 --> 00:03:24,656 sure to check out console combat. followed by Max Destruction tomorrow, and then Senjoworld 35 00:03:24,716 --> 00:03:31,182 on Thursday for the conclusion. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click on the link in our show notes to listen 36 00:03:31,202 --> 00:03:36,386 to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick 37 00:03:36,566 --> 00:03:42,731 to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the 38 00:03:42,771 --> 00:03:47,235 Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram for the person that we feel 39 00:03:47,255 --> 00:03:52,828 gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked, what song do you 40 00:03:52,868 --> 00:03:57,912 hope to hear in Joker Follyadoo and what character would sing it? Now this is coming off of the 41 00:03:57,952 --> 00:04:04,117 news that the Joker sequel movie is going to be a jukebox musical with popular pop songs 42 00:04:04,317 --> 00:04:08,961 in it. It was a disappointing news item but it gave us some great answers that we're going 43 00:04:08,981 --> 00:04:12,924 to break down now. We got a lot of them. We're going to give you the three honorable mentions 44 00:04:13,104 --> 00:04:19,129 as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Christian Rubito who said. 45 00:04:19,742 --> 00:04:24,285 Hey, this is Christian Urbito. I'm going to submit the answer of Break Stuff by Lynn Biscuit, 46 00:04:24,946 --> 00:04:28,789 because that's kind of how I feel when I learned that this movie was going to be a musical. 47 00:04:29,530 --> 00:04:33,553 The first movie is one of my favorite DC movies ever. And to hear this is extremely disappointing. 48 00:04:34,033 --> 00:04:38,797 And to the fact of who can sing it, I guess everyone together. So it can really pack a 49 00:04:38,837 --> 00:04:46,463 punch. Yeah, thanks, all. I mean, it's all about the he said, she said bullshit. I hope you 50 00:04:46,483 --> 00:04:50,706 know that Joker packs his chainsaw, and they'll skin your ass raw. Weren't those the days when 51 00:04:50,726 --> 00:04:58,008 like Limp Bizkit was like, OK to like? Yeah. Oh, man, they were huge back in the day. And 52 00:04:58,108 --> 00:05:02,489 I don't know what happened. They just sucked, I guess. I don't know about that. I still like 53 00:05:02,789 --> 00:05:07,390 I really still like the song that they did for Mission Impossible. But break stuff. That's 54 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:13,532 an inspired choice. I can't say that I see that working too well within the tone that Todd 55 00:05:13,572 --> 00:05:18,273 Phillips has established with the first Joker movie. But then again, this seems to be a departure 56 00:05:18,293 --> 00:05:23,627 from that anyway. Right, I mean, and plus, you know, the Joker's an angry guy and Break Stuff 57 00:05:23,807 --> 00:05:28,308 is like the ultimate angry song. So, great answer, Christian. Our next honorable mention goes 58 00:05:28,348 --> 00:05:34,690 to Andrew Shunk, who said, Hey guys, Andrew Shunk here. I would have to say Mad World, 59 00:05:34,930 --> 00:05:43,612 the Gary Jules version that was in Donnie Darko, would be great for this movie. I would have 60 00:05:43,692 --> 00:05:50,587 Harley Quinn sing it and it could even be a duet. but start with Harley Quinn singing. 61 00:05:50,607 --> 00:05:55,729 Feeling kind of funny, feeling kind of sad. The dreams in which I'm dying are the best 62 00:05:55,869 --> 00:06:01,491 I've ever had. I think those depressing lyrics totally fit fine with the themes of the Joker. 63 00:06:01,892 --> 00:06:05,473 Yeah, he mentioned that he would want to hear the Gary Jules version, which is a great version. 64 00:06:05,753 --> 00:06:10,615 But of course, that is a cover of a song originally done by Tears for Fears. And I think that one 65 00:06:10,635 --> 00:06:16,158 would actually work pretty well within the period piece type of film that is the Joker. And also, 66 00:06:16,318 --> 00:06:20,759 I believe Harley Quinn first debuted in an episode of Batman the Animated Series that was called 67 00:06:20,899 --> 00:06:25,580 Mad Love. Well, it wasn't her debut, but it was an award-winning episode that went into 68 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:32,062 her origin. I see, I see. Mad World, Mad Love. They could change it up to Mad Love. Yeah, 69 00:06:32,102 --> 00:06:39,124 totally. Great answer, Andrew. Our final honorable mention goes to Waldo. Found him! Who said? 70 00:06:39,664 --> 00:06:45,274 Hey guys, this is Waldo. Longtime listener, first time caller. I feel like It's an obvious 71 00:06:45,394 --> 00:06:53,378 answer, but I just have to say it. Lady Gaga needs to sing Joker Face. I mean, it's right 72 00:06:53,419 --> 00:06:59,702 there. If they don't do it, that is an intentionally missed opportunity. Mama, Mama Joker Face, 73 00:06:59,742 --> 00:07:04,645 Mama Joker Face, Mama, Mama. Yeah, you know she doesn't repeat Poker Face that second time, 74 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:09,468 right? Did you know that? I only just learned that she says Fucker Face in this song. That's 75 00:07:09,488 --> 00:07:16,207 crazy. Kids, listen to that on the radio. No, but taking poker face and trying to get into 76 00:07:16,267 --> 00:07:23,272 Joker face is very on the nose for a film starring Lady Gaga. Probably too on the nose for the 77 00:07:23,312 --> 00:07:30,077 film, but I did like your creative twist on the song to make it Joker face. I wonder what 78 00:07:30,097 --> 00:07:36,742 she'll mean when she goes, can't read my can't read my no, he can't read my Joker face. It 79 00:07:36,762 --> 00:07:42,338 means she's just wearing too much makeup, I guess. Great answers. Everyone, we want to 80 00:07:42,358 --> 00:07:46,840 give a quick shout out to Colby Hentges, John Storosky, Mitchell Smoothie and Scott Camacho 81 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:51,543 for also taking the time to visit our website and drop us an answer. Appreciate it guys. 82 00:07:51,623 --> 00:07:56,986 But the winner of this week's No Prize goes to Lizzie Dyer Arnie, who said, Cause I'm a 83 00:07:57,026 --> 00:08:05,871 picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover, and I'm a sinner. Playing my music in the sun. I'm 84 00:08:05,911 --> 00:08:14,192 a joker, I'm a smoker, I'm a midnight toker. Shoulda want to hurt no one. 85 00:08:17,335 --> 00:08:23,120 The Joker by the Steve Miller band. Thanks. Yeah. Great job. There we go. Great job. Well 86 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:28,625 done. Great answer, by the way. Actually, when we first asked this question, I told Jonathan 87 00:08:28,645 --> 00:08:32,889 that I was hoping someone would answer with The Joker by the Steve Miller band because 88 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:37,333 that's like, you know, that's the obvious answer. It's set right in that time period too. And 89 00:08:37,433 --> 00:08:41,999 it just seems spot on. Great job Lizzie for giving us that great rendition. That was awesome. 90 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:47,162 As is the song. I totally remember jamming out to that song on Guitar Hero back when that 91 00:08:47,182 --> 00:08:51,145 was a thing. Yeah I hated doing vocals for that song. You know what part like whistles it's 92 00:08:51,165 --> 00:08:56,988 like whoo whoo. Great answer Lizzie. Thanks for being a great sport. You win this week's 93 00:08:57,028 --> 00:09:01,070 no prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own no prize, stay tuned to later 94 00:09:01,110 --> 00:09:05,552 on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, 95 00:09:06,173 --> 00:09:06,973 on to the news. 96 00:09:12,686 --> 00:09:18,567 Okay, so a couple of weeks ago we got the third trailer for the anime series, Suicide Squad 97 00:09:18,667 --> 00:09:25,429 Isakai, along with a release date for the premiere of the show in Japan at least. We have no word 98 00:09:25,449 --> 00:09:30,150 when it's gonna arrive in America yet, but at least we know in Japan it will be debuting 99 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:35,932 this July. I imagine it's not gonna come to America until they localize it and do dubs 100 00:09:36,132 --> 00:09:41,213 for the voice track, but who knows, we'll see. I wouldn't watch that anyway, I'm gonna watch 101 00:09:41,253 --> 00:09:48,220 the subs. Hell yeah, subs before dubs. The trailer starts off with this romantic kind of scene 102 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,482 between Harley Quinn and the Joker, who looks pretty awesome. Way cooler than the Jared Leto 103 00:09:53,522 --> 00:09:58,964 version. He still has tattoos, but the tattoo is like of a smile on his face rather than 104 00:09:59,004 --> 00:10:04,887 like damaged. Yeah, these tattoos actually make sense. Right, yeah. A lot of this film looks 105 00:10:04,927 --> 00:10:11,129 heavily inspired by both Suicide Squad films and it's just pretty much dripping with style. 106 00:10:11,426 --> 00:10:15,347 but it also doesn't hurt that it has a pretty catchy J-pop song going on in the background. 107 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:19,908 The trailer definitely seems to be promoting the song, which I guess is called Go-Getters 108 00:10:19,988 --> 00:10:25,570 by Maury Kaliope. Never heard of that artist, but it's pretty cool. I thought you were a 109 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:31,612 big J-pop fan, Jon. K-pop, bro! K-pop! Don't be racist! I bet you so many new listeners 110 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:35,853 are surprised that you listen to K-pop, and so many older listeners are not surprised at 111 00:10:35,893 --> 00:10:41,227 all considering how little you know about music. That's why it's because he listens to K-pop. 112 00:10:41,627 --> 00:10:47,110 Just because you spend a year living in Korea. It's catchy. It's catchy. But no, it looks 113 00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:51,693 like eventually Harley Quinn gets separated from the Joker and she's taken with other members 114 00:10:51,733 --> 00:10:57,356 of the Suicide Squad to the world of Isekai, which I guess is connected to the DC world 115 00:10:57,417 --> 00:11:03,660 through a portal of some sort. And they're there to put a stop between a war between a kingdom 116 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,055 and an empire, it looks like. Is it just me or is the plot to this thing look extremely 117 00:11:09,115 --> 00:11:13,477 vague? Like we've gotten three trailers for this and I don't think we've gotten any new 118 00:11:13,517 --> 00:11:17,339 information on what the story actually is, besides the fact that they go into this other realm. 119 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:22,141 I don't know. It feels very much like a Japanese anime teaser to me. You know, at the end of 120 00:11:22,221 --> 00:11:26,322 most anime episodes, they'll tease the next episode and I have no idea what the hell they're 121 00:11:26,342 --> 00:11:31,425 teasing, to be honest. I'm like, well, that's pretty crazy. Is that really the continuation 122 00:11:31,445 --> 00:11:36,431 of the story? All right, sure. This definitely feels like that. But it's cool just to see 123 00:11:36,472 --> 00:11:40,234 the cast of characters that they have. As we've seen in previous trailers, they're bringing 124 00:11:40,274 --> 00:11:46,779 Harley Quinn, Deadshot, King Shark, Peacemaker, Rick Flag. But this is the first time we get 125 00:11:46,819 --> 00:11:51,902 to see Diablo, from the first Suicide Squad movie, the one that controls fire. Although 126 00:11:52,022 --> 00:11:56,585 this time they're giving him a like Michael Jackson kind of vibe. Yeah, that's weird. I 127 00:11:56,625 --> 00:12:00,288 think it's kind of cool. Another thing that caught me off guard here is that it's almost 128 00:12:00,368 --> 00:12:04,818 like they're breaking the fourth wall. because you have the Joker talking about like, oh, 129 00:12:04,838 --> 00:12:09,179 this is just a really long intro to the show. And then Diablo later on is like, oh, they 130 00:12:09,219 --> 00:12:13,661 miscast us. It's kind of interesting. I wonder if they'll actually play into that. Do you 131 00:12:13,681 --> 00:12:18,622 think it's strange mixing the world of Suicide Squad with like this medieval fantasy setting? 132 00:12:19,102 --> 00:12:24,163 Yeah, and that's partially why I'm here for it. Like it's gonna be really, really interesting 133 00:12:24,364 --> 00:12:28,285 and something you probably haven't seen before, especially with these characters. By the end 134 00:12:28,325 --> 00:12:32,630 of the trailer, we see that Harley Quinn really just wants to return home. to her lover, the 135 00:12:32,690 --> 00:12:37,751 Joker, and she's definitely like the standout character of this trailer, of all the trailers 136 00:12:37,791 --> 00:12:41,112 really. It looks like she's the main character of the show. It looks like there's a lot of 137 00:12:41,132 --> 00:12:45,854 romantic elements at play, not just between the Joker and Harley Quinn, but I don't know, 138 00:12:45,874 --> 00:12:51,535 just the setting of the world that they venture into seems highly romanticized. Yeah, that's 139 00:12:51,575 --> 00:12:58,457 fair. And also very Shinto in a way, or at least like Eastern folklore with like giant boars 140 00:12:58,477 --> 00:13:03,732 and stuff like that. I really hope that this gets released in the US this year. I'm not 141 00:13:03,752 --> 00:13:08,034 holding my breath. Even if they don't localize it, I would still love to find a way to watch 142 00:13:08,074 --> 00:13:13,496 the Japanese subtitled version. But given the fact that this series is an anime, that brings 143 00:13:13,557 --> 00:13:14,877 us to our question of the week. 144 00:13:19,554 --> 00:13:26,256 What is your favorite anime? And why? And it doesn't have to be just Marvel or DC. I'm just 145 00:13:26,276 --> 00:13:30,938 curious. Yeah, record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in 146 00:13:30,958 --> 00:13:34,740 the bottom right-hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. 147 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,102 Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case 148 00:13:39,142 --> 00:13:43,323 we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic 149 00:13:43,363 --> 00:13:48,525 Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before April 6th. 150 00:13:55,958 --> 00:13:59,943 That does it for all the news for this episode. Now let's go ahead and move on to the main 151 00:13:59,983 --> 00:14:05,671 event, where we find out who is going to win in a fight between the DC Comics version of 152 00:14:05,711 --> 00:14:09,797 Godzilla and the Marvel Comics version of Ultraman. 153 00:14:25,162 --> 00:14:31,588 Okay, so I'm not sure why our network's AI simulators have decided to glitch this April Fool's week 154 00:14:32,028 --> 00:14:38,414 and give us all Godzilla vs. Ultraman duels, but I'm here for it because the rights to Godzilla 155 00:14:38,574 --> 00:14:43,619 are partially owned by Legendary Pictures, who teams up with Warner Brothers to make some 156 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:49,204 pretty awesome Godzilla movies. And they've even done some comics published by DC, also 157 00:14:49,324 --> 00:14:54,720 owned by Warner Brothers. Yeah, and actually Marvel Comics has produced three Ultraman miniseries, 158 00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:59,442 which have come out recently, I think starting in 2020. So Ultraman is a Marvel Comics character 159 00:14:59,462 --> 00:15:04,525 of sorts. What a coincidence! Who would have thought? Crazy! It's almost like we all got 160 00:15:04,545 --> 00:15:08,427 together and brainstormed which characters could work across all of our different podcasts in 161 00:15:08,467 --> 00:15:13,450 our network. Yeah, because there are video game versions of Godzilla and Ultraman. There are 162 00:15:13,550 --> 00:15:19,193 comic versions that we're going over. There are movie versions, obviously, and anime versions. 163 00:15:19,233 --> 00:15:22,979 So this is pretty exciting. Yeah, can't wait to find out who's gonna win between Godzilla 164 00:15:22,999 --> 00:15:27,143 and Ultraman, but to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient 165 00:15:27,183 --> 00:15:32,647 duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ and INK tell our listeners how you go about determining 166 00:15:32,708 --> 00:15:37,832 a winner in our duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the 167 00:15:37,872 --> 00:15:43,897 contestants is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. A Monte Carlo 168 00:15:43,937 --> 00:15:48,221 simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. 169 00:15:48,661 --> 00:15:53,531 In this case... I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate 170 00:15:53,571 --> 00:15:58,152 the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official 171 00:15:58,212 --> 00:16:03,514 Marvel power grid from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat 172 00:16:03,554 --> 00:16:09,075 categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order 173 00:16:09,115 --> 00:16:14,537 to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide 174 00:16:14,557 --> 00:16:19,031 a percentage of wins for each character. Contestant with the higher percentage is declared the 175 00:16:19,091 --> 00:16:24,235 victor as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, 176 00:16:24,615 --> 00:16:29,418 neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's 177 00:16:29,558 --> 00:16:34,381 even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line 178 00:16:34,401 --> 00:16:38,985 with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations 179 00:16:39,025 --> 00:16:44,188 are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes 180 00:16:44,228 --> 00:16:50,484 tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, 181 00:16:50,504 --> 00:16:55,508 we like to break down each character's comic book histories and abilities before improvising 182 00:16:55,608 --> 00:17:00,813 a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out, beat for beat. 183 00:17:01,213 --> 00:17:05,817 And I believe it's my turn to go first with the DC character's backstory, the DC version 184 00:17:05,837 --> 00:17:13,863 of Godzilla, which is the Monsterverse version. Now in 1980 Tokyo, a young Ishiro Serizawa, 185 00:17:14,164 --> 00:17:20,867 played by Ken Watanabe on screen, met with his father Eiji, who confided in Ashiro about his 186 00:17:20,947 --> 00:17:28,409 secret job, beginning his tale in Hiroshima in 1945 after the atomic bombing. Amidst the 187 00:17:28,449 --> 00:17:34,451 devastation, Eiji, then a sailor in the Japanese Navy, searched for his wife and newborn son 188 00:17:34,511 --> 00:17:41,173 Ashiro, but was only able to find Ashiro. Eiji immediately afterward witnessed a mysterious 189 00:17:41,213 --> 00:17:46,507 and massive creature flying in the area. and suspected it had something to do with the bombing. 190 00:17:46,808 --> 00:17:52,572 While Ashiro was cared for by his grandparents, Eiji continued serving in the Japanese Navy. 191 00:17:53,152 --> 00:17:59,256 One year after the bombing, Eiji's naval unit was dispatched to aid an American vessel stranded 192 00:17:59,336 --> 00:18:05,400 on a small Pacific island. Encountering the same terrifying creature that Eiji saw a year 193 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:12,045 prior, Eiji's unit and the American crew were all killed, save for Eiji and one American 194 00:18:12,105 --> 00:18:19,868 survivor. Lee Shaw. Impressed by Eiji's rescue, Shaw recruited him for the US government, leading 195 00:18:20,068 --> 00:18:26,131 Eiji to join Monarch, a secret military unit tasked with combating massive unidentified 196 00:18:26,171 --> 00:18:32,974 terrestrial organisms, or MUTOs for short. The MUTO creature, later dubbed a Shinobura by 197 00:18:33,134 --> 00:18:39,617 Eiji, continued annual attacks around the Pacific, each time drawing attention to another mythical 198 00:18:39,657 --> 00:18:47,957 creature dubbed Gojira. which only AEG ever glimpsed and believed existed. In 1953, Monarch 199 00:18:47,977 --> 00:18:54,841 discovered a giant Shinomura cell, proving the Mudo was actually an organized swarm of smaller 200 00:18:54,881 --> 00:19:01,264 creatures and allowed AEG to theorize about its connection to Gojira, believing both they 201 00:19:01,444 --> 00:19:07,468 and other Mudos hailed from a prehistoric time when the Earth was much more radioactive. The 202 00:19:07,508 --> 00:19:14,340 Shinomura destroyed Monarch's headquarters soon after. and Eiji, believing Gojira had protected 203 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:21,104 them from the Shinomura prior, was tasked with fighting this Godzilla. The following year, 204 00:19:21,465 --> 00:19:27,088 on Matata Island, Eiji witnessed that there were actually two Shinomuras, prior to them 205 00:19:27,148 --> 00:19:32,452 merging in order to fight Godzilla, who had caught up to them. Using his atomic breath, 206 00:19:32,792 --> 00:19:37,135 Godzilla managed to re-divide the two monsters and kill one of them. 207 00:19:40,738 --> 00:19:46,699 who witnessed the tail end of the Mudo fight. Seeking to spare Godzilla from Monarch's plan 208 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:52,681 to destroy him and the Shinomura with a nuclear bomb, Eiji confronted Monarch's head general 209 00:19:53,001 --> 00:19:58,442 and pleaded for a peaceful resolution, though he ultimately witnessed the bombing of both 210 00:19:58,822 --> 00:20:05,064 on Bikini Island, disguised as nuclear testing. The result was the confirmation of the Shinomura's 211 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:13,212 death and the presumption of Godzilla's. he assured his son Ishiro that Godzilla was still 212 00:20:13,252 --> 00:20:19,998 alive. Eiji died one year later, and during his funeral, Ishiro was approached by Shaw 213 00:20:20,258 --> 00:20:26,043 to join Monarch. That story was told in the comic Godzilla Awakening, a prequel to the 214 00:20:26,083 --> 00:20:32,789 2014 film Godzilla, which, along with Kong Skull Island, kicked off Warner Brothers and Legendary 215 00:20:32,829 --> 00:20:38,353 Pictures Monsterverse film series, which includes the events from Godzilla, King of Monsters, 216 00:20:38,786 --> 00:20:46,072 Godzilla vs. Kong, the TV series Monarch Legacy of Monsters, and the newly released film Godzilla 217 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:53,297 Kong, The New Empire. Also in the canon are prequel comic series published not by DC, but 218 00:20:53,358 --> 00:21:01,104 by Legendary Comics, namely Godzilla Aftershock, Godzilla Dominion, and Godzilla Kong The Hunted. 219 00:21:01,264 --> 00:21:08,322 But recently, both Godzilla and Kong have also appeared in the pages of DC Comics in versus 220 00:21:08,362 --> 00:21:15,187 Godzilla versus Kong seven part miniseries of which only the first six issues have been released 221 00:21:15,667 --> 00:21:21,711 as of this recording. Spoiler warning if you haven't read it yet. In this alternate timeline 222 00:21:21,751 --> 00:21:28,336 tale the Legion of Doom unleashed Titano, a skyscraper sized gorilla in Metropolis as a 223 00:21:28,376 --> 00:21:33,620 distraction for them to invade the Forges of Solitude and steal the Mother Box stored there. 224 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,891 When they accidentally set off an alarm the Justice League arrived and battled the Legion, 225 00:21:39,292 --> 00:21:44,836 during which time Toy Man stole the Dreamstone and the Mother Box was triggered, sending the 226 00:21:44,876 --> 00:21:51,121 Legion to Skull Island in the Monsterverse. After Toy Man was berated by Lex Luthor over 227 00:21:51,161 --> 00:21:57,345 his fascination with the Titan-designated Mudos that he observed while in a Monarch base, Toy 228 00:21:57,385 --> 00:22:02,089 Man made a wish using the Dreamstone that all of the monsters could come back with them to 229 00:22:02,129 --> 00:22:08,084 their universe. While proposing marriage to Lois Lane atop the Daily Planet, Clark Kent 230 00:22:08,204 --> 00:22:14,247 witnessed the emergence of Godzilla in Metropolis, and the two battled while other titans, a giant 231 00:22:14,287 --> 00:22:22,390 Cthulhu-like spider Cilla in Central City, the gigantic bat Kamizots in Gotham, and the colossal 232 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:26,032 mammoth Behemoth on Themyscira also appear. 233 00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:35,594 His allies Hawk Girl Shazam, Supergirl, and Atom Smasher managed to bring the monster down 234 00:22:35,654 --> 00:22:41,598 together, causing Godzilla to flee into the ocean. Meanwhile, as heroes bring down the 235 00:22:41,658 --> 00:22:47,322 Titans and the other cities, Wonder Woman brought Green Arrow to Skull Island, which mysteriously 236 00:22:47,362 --> 00:22:53,367 appeared in the ocean as he'd volunteered to investigate. There, he found King Kong battling 237 00:22:53,447 --> 00:22:58,819 hordes of other monsters to prevent them from escaping the island. After being subdued by 238 00:22:58,879 --> 00:23:04,104 Supergirl, Conk helped Green Arrow fend off the League of Assassins, who also arrived on 239 00:23:04,124 --> 00:23:10,049 the island to investigate and managed to escape with one of the fallen Skullcrawler monsters. 240 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:16,435 Superman, seemingly dead, was placed in a stasis pod on the Justice League satellite headquarters, 241 00:23:16,856 --> 00:23:21,340 while the League reviewed footage of the Legion's attack on the Fortress of Solitude to determine 242 00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:27,226 what caused the Titans to emerge. As Lex Luthor plotted a way to control the Titans to his 243 00:23:27,387 --> 00:23:32,768 end, the League traveled into the ocean to help Aquaman defend Atlantis from the giant sea 244 00:23:32,808 --> 00:23:38,950 monster Tiamat, only for Godzilla to come to their aid, just as Aquaman also unleashed the 245 00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:44,892 Kraken. Though Godzilla and the League defeated the Titan, the Kraken was able to help Aquaman 246 00:23:44,952 --> 00:23:51,013 chain Godzilla in the Kraken's own shackles within a massive abyss. With help from Lois 247 00:23:51,073 --> 00:23:55,815 Lane, The League learned about Monarch and was able to access their files concerning each 248 00:23:55,835 --> 00:24:01,056 of the Titans as they grouped and assessed all of the threats, including Les Luthor finding 249 00:24:01,076 --> 00:24:06,738 and taking control of Mecha-Godzilla, Ras Al Ghul bringing a Skullcrawler back to life in 250 00:24:06,778 --> 00:24:13,360 a Lazarus pit, and Gorilla Grodd manipulating King Kong by taking mental control over Supergirl. 251 00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:19,181 Behemoth, Scylla, and Tiamat joined Mecha-Godzilla and the Legion in Metropolis to battle the 252 00:24:19,221 --> 00:24:25,815 Justice League. alongside a giant Batman robot that Batman had built, a mini Batplane sidekick 253 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:31,117 bot controlled by Nightwing and Damien, and the human Green Lantern Corps members who formed 254 00:24:31,217 --> 00:24:37,038 a giant green robot of their own named Robo. When Gorilla Grodd and his Gorilla City army 255 00:24:37,098 --> 00:24:43,160 joined the fray with Supergirl and King Kong under his control, he and Kong successfully 256 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:50,150 destroyed Robo and he even managed to kill the Green Lantern Guy Gardener. Despite Beast Boy 257 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:55,832 trying to even the odds by transforming into a King Kong sized gorilla, he was easily taken 258 00:24:55,912 --> 00:25:01,054 out by Supergirl, who was brought under control once the Justice League defeated Grodd, bringing 259 00:25:01,094 --> 00:25:07,137 Kong to the side of the good guys, only then for Russell Gould's Skullcrawler army to arrive. 260 00:25:07,617 --> 00:25:13,480 As hope seemed to vanish, Superman finally awoke from his stasis chamber and dove into the depths 261 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,141 of the ocean to free Godzilla. And we'll see how this story concludes in issue number 7. 262 00:25:18,638 --> 00:25:26,082 due out on April 16th. Powers-wise, the Monsterverse version of Godzilla is 120 meters of brute 263 00:25:26,102 --> 00:25:32,085 strength, able to destroy skyscrapers and battleships with a wave of his tail, which is serrated 264 00:25:32,205 --> 00:25:37,508 all the way up his spine. He has sharp claws and teeth, and he's durable enough to survive 265 00:25:37,888 --> 00:25:44,092 a nearly direct hit from a 15-megaton hydrogen nuclear bomb, though it does take some time, 266 00:25:44,452 --> 00:25:50,136 sometimes years, for him to fully regenerate. depending on how heavy the damage is and how 267 00:25:50,176 --> 00:25:56,160 much radiation he's able to feed on. He's essentially immortal, having survived since prehistoric 268 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,665 times. Speaking of radiation feeding, Godzilla can absorb radiation, allowing him to emit 269 00:26:02,725 --> 00:26:08,809 his signature radioactive energy beam, known as Atomic Breath. If overloaded with radiation, 270 00:26:09,170 --> 00:26:14,333 Godzilla is able to temporarily emit waves in all directions of destructive nuclear energy. 271 00:26:14,934 --> 00:26:20,835 His amphibious nature allows him to breathe both on land and underwater, and he has enhanced 272 00:26:20,915 --> 00:26:27,917 senses, able to hear and smell other monsters across continents and oceans. He's much faster 273 00:26:27,977 --> 00:26:34,099 in the water than he is on land, admittedly, and in the comics, he was susceptible to Shazam's 274 00:26:34,179 --> 00:26:40,060 magic lightning bolts. But besides that, the guy is basically indestructible, and Ultraman 275 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:45,386 is going down. Uh, Ultraman eats kaiju like Godzilla for breakfast. I just want you to 276 00:26:45,406 --> 00:26:51,493 know that. Oh, really? Yeah. The king of monsters. I think not. How tall is Godzilla again? 120 277 00:26:52,154 --> 00:26:58,962 meters. It's one of the tallest forms of Godzilla. Oh, wow. That's that's pretty big. All right. 278 00:26:59,783 --> 00:27:03,767 Well, let me go. Tell you how fucked you are by going through Ultraman's bio. OK. All right. 279 00:27:05,910 --> 00:27:09,772 This is the Marvel Comics version of Ultraman by the way. The character has been around since 280 00:27:09,792 --> 00:27:15,976 the 1950s, but he was recently rebooted in the Marvel Comics series in 2020. There have been 281 00:27:16,116 --> 00:27:20,679 three mini-series to come out including The Rise of Ultraman, The Trials of Ultraman, and 282 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,102 The Mystery of the Ultra-7. There are going to be more produced later including a crossover 283 00:27:25,142 --> 00:27:29,706 between Ultraman and the Marvel Super Heroes universe, but let me go ahead and tell you 284 00:27:29,726 --> 00:27:30,766 about the character's backstory. 285 00:27:35,826 --> 00:27:41,529 a sentient alien race discovered the existence of kaiju, extra-dimensional monsters that feed 286 00:27:41,589 --> 00:27:46,672 off of negative emotions that were mysteriously invading reality from beyond the unknown. The 287 00:27:46,732 --> 00:27:52,236 aliens learned that the fear the kaiju caused would create a cyclical loop of negative emotions 288 00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:58,039 that would in turn bring more kaiju into the universe. To stop the monsters, the sentient 289 00:27:58,139 --> 00:28:03,839 alien race had to transcend beyond their normal state. evolving past negative emotions and 290 00:28:03,879 --> 00:28:10,683 becoming powerful beings of peace, compassion, and justice. They became Ultra, and used their 291 00:28:10,703 --> 00:28:15,806 privilege to travel the universe and defend other lifeforms against the Kaiju. In 1954, 292 00:28:16,746 --> 00:28:22,470 mankind became aware that Kaiju were invading Earth. An international joint effort was created 293 00:28:22,510 --> 00:28:28,713 to study and protect the world from the Kaiju, known as the United Science Patrol, or USP 294 00:28:28,733 --> 00:28:35,357 for short. Twelve years later, in 1966, a pilot for the USP named Dan Moroboshi was investigating 295 00:28:35,517 --> 00:28:41,541 an approaching anomaly from space that was actually a spaceship belonging to one of the Ultra Aliens 296 00:28:41,861 --> 00:28:46,865 who was coming to Earth to assist the planet against the Kaiju. The jet and the Ultra's 297 00:28:46,905 --> 00:28:52,088 ship collided, presumably killing each pilot. Though the wreckage from the alien ship was 298 00:28:52,128 --> 00:28:57,203 too advanced for the USP to understand, They were able to reverse engineer some of its technology 299 00:28:57,243 --> 00:29:03,107 for use in Earth's battle against the Kaiju. This included the invention of Keirei's, a 300 00:29:03,147 --> 00:29:08,331 weapon's energy that was subsequently used to fight Kaiju and shoot down any subsequent spaceships 301 00:29:08,531 --> 00:29:13,675 sent by the Ultra. Throughout the decades, the USP was able to use this technology to fend 302 00:29:13,795 --> 00:29:19,219 off the Kaiju and keep their existence largely a secret from the world at large. However, 303 00:29:19,479 --> 00:29:25,782 one day in 2010's Japan, a teenager named Shin Hayata, and his friend Kiki Fujii stumbled 304 00:29:25,802 --> 00:29:31,265 upon a kaiju monster who attacked them. They were rescued from being eaten by a USP agent 305 00:29:31,565 --> 00:29:36,207 who stepped in to save them. Managing to escape the incident and avoid having their memories 306 00:29:36,247 --> 00:29:41,869 erased, Shin and Kiki became obsessed with their knowledge of the kaiju and the USP, whom they 307 00:29:41,929 --> 00:29:46,811 refer to as the Ultimate Sneaky People. They used their knowledge over the years to find 308 00:29:46,851 --> 00:29:51,913 a way to track the kaiju via their energy signature, and eventually as young adults, they tried 309 00:29:51,953 --> 00:29:58,665 to join the USP. While Kiki passed their recruitment exam, Shin did not due to his inability to 310 00:29:58,705 --> 00:30:04,730 put aside his own convictions and follow orders. Kiki went to work studying the Keirei technology 311 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:10,875 at the USP and was eventually pulled into the field alongside one Captain Muramatsu. The 312 00:30:10,915 --> 00:30:16,419 two were rescued from a kaiju ambush by Shin, who built his own Keirei blaster and followed 313 00:30:16,459 --> 00:30:22,146 them. Though he was admonished for his unsanctioned actions, Captain Muramasa trusted Shin enough 314 00:30:22,226 --> 00:30:27,027 to bring him on his and Kiki's next assignment, which was to investigate the crash site of 315 00:30:27,067 --> 00:30:32,289 a downed Ultra spaceship. The captain ordered Shin to fire on the Ultra emerging from the 316 00:30:32,329 --> 00:30:38,831 wreckage, which he did reluctantly. As the alien began dying, Shin ignored orders to stay back 317 00:30:39,251 --> 00:30:44,552 and sympathetically approached the being, making contact and merging with the Ultra in order 318 00:30:44,592 --> 00:30:50,750 to save its life. The merging process rendered Shin comatose for 19 hours. During that time, 319 00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:56,015 Kiki researched the 1966 crash incident to try and understand what was happening to Shin. 320 00:30:56,135 --> 00:31:01,880 This led her to the remote cabin of Dr. Yamamoto, a scientist who was discharged from the USP 321 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:07,645 for arguing against the use of K-Ray technology. During their meeting, they were attacked by 322 00:31:07,685 --> 00:31:13,070 a Kaiju monster. Shin was able to find Kiki in time with help from Captain Muramata and 323 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:18,510 transformed into Ultraman for the first time, defeating the creature. Transforming back, 324 00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:23,374 Shin and Kiki learned from Dr. Yamamoto that their K-rays were not disintegration beams 325 00:31:23,454 --> 00:31:29,279 as they previously thought, but rather teleportation energy that would transport the kaiju to an 326 00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:35,444 unstable pocket dimension called Limbo. With the vast number of kaiju that the USP had sent 327 00:31:35,485 --> 00:31:40,749 there over the decades, Limbo was starting to break down, threatening to release every monster 328 00:31:40,849 --> 00:31:47,274 ever sent there back on Earth. One such creature, a giant lizard named Bemular, did manage to 329 00:31:47,294 --> 00:31:52,018 break through the dimensional barrier. Shin had to transform back into Ultraman and defeated 330 00:31:52,058 --> 00:31:57,243 the creature by growing to his normal, giant size and fighting it. Now working with the 331 00:31:57,363 --> 00:32:02,887 USP, Shin and Kiki convinced the director that the best course of action to avoid all the 332 00:32:02,928 --> 00:32:08,712 kaiju in Limbo spilling onto Earth simultaneously was to slowly allow kaiju through the dimensional 333 00:32:08,753 --> 00:32:14,417 barrier in a controlled manner. This let Ultraman handle the kaiju crisis around the world methodically. 334 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:19,652 as he took on creatures big and small, the largest ones typically hiding at the bottom of the 335 00:32:19,732 --> 00:32:24,294 ocean. As the general public became aware of the Kaiju's existence via Ultraman's battles, 336 00:32:24,894 --> 00:32:30,616 one former USP robotic scientist named Kato had a protégé that started developing Mecha 337 00:32:30,656 --> 00:32:36,139 Kaiju as a means to convince people that the USP were untrustworthy. Ultraman defeated the 338 00:32:36,179 --> 00:32:42,281 Mechas, though public distrust in the organization remained. This included Shin's father himself. 339 00:32:42,738 --> 00:32:47,561 resulting in Shin revealing to his dad that the kaiju were indeed real and that he was 340 00:32:47,641 --> 00:32:52,584 Ultraman. However, Shin's father did not trust his son with the aliens power, revealing that 341 00:32:52,644 --> 00:32:57,508 he blamed him for the death of his younger brother Jiro, who was killed accompanying Shin and 342 00:32:57,528 --> 00:33:03,051 Kiki on one of their kaiju hunts as teenagers. Ultraman sympathized with Shin stating that 343 00:33:03,151 --> 00:33:09,516 he had lost a brother too named Ultra-7, the Ultra who had crashed with the USP jet back 344 00:33:09,556 --> 00:33:16,591 in 1966. In that crash, the pilot Moroboshi and Ultra-7 were revealed to have been sent 345 00:33:16,651 --> 00:33:21,512 into Limbo where they merged. After spending decades fighting an endless battle against 346 00:33:21,552 --> 00:33:27,094 the Kaiju that were being sent there by the USP, Ultra-7 eventually became corrupted by 347 00:33:27,134 --> 00:33:32,416 the violence. When Ultra-7 arrived back on Earth through the weakened dimensional barrier, he 348 00:33:32,456 --> 00:33:37,397 went into a frenzy, attacking both Kaiju and Ultraman, who tried to reason with him and 349 00:33:37,417 --> 00:33:42,728 eventually subdued him. As it turned out, Ultra 7 first came to Earth in the 1960s as he had 350 00:33:42,768 --> 00:33:48,252 gained evidence that the reason Kaiju were appearing on the planet was due to an external influence, 351 00:33:48,452 --> 00:33:54,837 an evil presence that had embedded itself within the USP. This led to Shin, Kiki, Ultraman, 352 00:33:55,197 --> 00:34:00,981 Ultra 7, and Jack who was a new combined mecha version of Ultraman created by the roboticist 353 00:34:01,042 --> 00:34:06,906 Kato and piloted by his teenage children. They all formed a team called the Ultra Guard. to 354 00:34:06,946 --> 00:34:12,868 combat the USP's corruption. And that's Ultraman's backstory in Marvel. Powers-wise, Ultraman 355 00:34:12,908 --> 00:34:17,850 possesses enhanced physical abilities due to his transcendent alien nature. This includes 356 00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:24,633 increased strength in excess of 100 tons, flight speed up to Mach 5, increased durability, and 357 00:34:24,693 --> 00:34:31,336 increased agility. He can grow in size to a height of 40 meters or 131 feet tall. He also 358 00:34:31,376 --> 00:34:36,514 has a variety of energy weapons, including this Spacium Beam, which he can fire when forming 359 00:34:36,554 --> 00:34:42,297 his arms into the shape of a plus sign, and the Ultra Slash, which is an energy buzzsaw 360 00:34:42,317 --> 00:34:47,219 that he can throw out by moving his right arm in a tomahawk motion. He is a master in his 361 00:34:47,299 --> 00:34:53,161 judo-esque ultra fighting style, and can see across the electromagnetic spectrum. Lastly, 362 00:34:53,341 --> 00:34:58,483 Ultraman is highly intelligent and logical, able to adapt and process battle strategy on 363 00:34:58,503 --> 00:35:04,206 the fly, with help from the also intelligent Shin Hayata in his mind. His one weakness is 364 00:35:04,246 --> 00:35:09,631 that Shin can only remain in the Ultraman form for three minutes before he has to revert back 365 00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:15,556 to Shin due to the weakened state of the Ultra during their merging process. Wow, that's sad. 366 00:35:15,956 --> 00:35:19,919 That's pretty lame, yeah. But three minutes is all this guy needs. So you're telling me 367 00:35:19,999 --> 00:35:27,185 this guy goes up against shrimpy 40 meter tall Kaiju's? I mean, Ultraman can grow taller than 368 00:35:27,205 --> 00:35:34,497 that too. Oh yeah? Yeah. Are you sure? Well... He's never done that in the Marvel Comics version, 369 00:35:34,517 --> 00:35:39,826 so I can't say that with 100% certainty, but at the very least, he's going to be a third 370 00:35:39,846 --> 00:35:44,433 the height of Godzilla. This is going to be fun. 371 00:35:53,222 --> 00:35:59,290 fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare yourself 372 00:35:59,510 --> 00:36:05,618 for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The DynaMic Podcast 373 00:36:05,678 --> 00:36:12,826 Network presents Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. Comic Book 374 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:19,032 Titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where TV and action heroes battle every Wednesday. 375 00:36:19,613 --> 00:36:25,518 And Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on 376 00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:31,244 the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, discover who will emerge victorious. 377 00:36:31,785 --> 00:36:36,049 Visit dynamicpodcast.com, where we settle the debate and settle the score. 378 00:36:40,374 --> 00:36:44,556 But now that we've got the histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one 379 00:36:44,616 --> 00:36:51,401 of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not the speculation, 380 00:36:51,701 --> 00:36:57,705 but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? 381 00:37:09,858 --> 00:37:15,201 For the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a non-descript 382 00:37:15,241 --> 00:37:20,023 environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics 383 00:37:20,063 --> 00:37:25,467 are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright 384 00:37:25,487 --> 00:37:31,870 then let's get into it. Godzilla and Ultraman meet! Woah! What's happening here? Wow! Alright, 385 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:37,393 so like in a fiery explosion, the characters just teleported into our non-environment setting. 386 00:37:37,938 --> 00:37:43,759 where I guess the fight continues from yesterday's episode of the console combat podcast. So now 387 00:37:43,779 --> 00:37:48,440 that they're here, who's going to go first? Well, I got to say, you know, the DC Comics 388 00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:54,802 version of Godzilla is just so much taller than Ultraman. He's just going to straight up stomp 389 00:37:54,902 --> 00:37:59,083 Ultraman into the ground, just stepping on him. It's not going to be that easy, which shows 390 00:37:59,103 --> 00:38:03,865 how smart Godzilla is. Like Marvel's Ultraman might only be a third of the size of Godzilla, 391 00:38:03,905 --> 00:38:09,282 but he's still incredibly strong, so strong. that he's gonna catch Godzilla's foot as it 392 00:38:09,322 --> 00:38:15,244 tries to stomp on him, then he's gonna do this incredible judo slam, throwing the kaiju down 393 00:38:15,324 --> 00:38:20,185 onto the ground and creates this massive Godzilla-shaped crater. Okay, well you just paced Godzilla 394 00:38:20,285 --> 00:38:27,967 off now. You can see it in his emotive monster-verse face. So while he's on the ground, Godzilla's 395 00:38:28,047 --> 00:38:34,089 gonna sweep his long tail and smack it right into Ultraman, sending him flying toward the 396 00:38:34,129 --> 00:38:39,883 horizon. Okay, but like... Ultraman can fly, so yeah, he gets smacked to the horizon, but 397 00:38:39,903 --> 00:38:44,985 he just comes racing back into the battle at Mach 5 and just rockets his fist right into 398 00:38:45,025 --> 00:38:49,867 Godzilla's jaw at five times the speed of sound. And that's just gonna shatter all of Godzilla's 399 00:38:49,907 --> 00:38:57,230 teeth. So now we just have Toothless Godzilla, just gums. Uh, no, I'm gonna say Ultraman rocketed 400 00:38:57,270 --> 00:39:04,173 his fist right into Godzilla's bite. So Ultraman's trapped in Godzilla's jaws. And while Ultraman 401 00:39:04,213 --> 00:39:10,108 is locked there, That's when Godzilla's back dorsal plates began to glow blue, and he's 402 00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:15,992 just gonna fry Ultraman with his atomic breath point blank. No, I mean, that takes a while, 403 00:39:16,032 --> 00:39:20,574 right? So Godzilla never gets a chance. Because, like, Ultraman, yeah, his arm is trapped in 404 00:39:20,614 --> 00:39:25,857 Godzilla's teeth, but with his other arm, he's gonna send out an Ultra Slash, and that energy 405 00:39:25,957 --> 00:39:31,701 buzzsaw thing is just gonna rip right into Godzilla's neck, just severing his ability to use his 406 00:39:31,741 --> 00:39:38,408 atomic breath. about that it's definitely gonna hurt Godzilla you know and cause him to drop 407 00:39:38,508 --> 00:39:46,054 Ultraman and by drop I mean drop kick like Spartan style and that's when Godzilla is gonna let 408 00:39:46,074 --> 00:39:52,458 out this deafening roar that's just gonna stun Ultraman long enough to get body slammed by 409 00:39:52,498 --> 00:39:58,202 Godzilla like Godzilla is just gonna drop right on top of him and stay on top of him for you 410 00:39:58,222 --> 00:39:59,603 know whatever time remains in 411 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:09,344 Yeah, Shin's time limit is probably coming up in his Ultraman form. So yeah, he has to do 412 00:40:09,384 --> 00:40:15,567 something drastic. So he summons all of his might to lift Godzilla's fat ass off of him, 413 00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:20,089 and then he's gonna handspring back onto his feet, and then he's gonna do his space-ium 414 00:40:20,149 --> 00:40:25,791 beam technique, you know, forming his forearms into a plus sign, which unleashes this devastating 415 00:40:25,971 --> 00:40:30,753 energy blast that is just gonna disintegrate Godzilla. Okay, but like in the time it takes 416 00:40:30,873 --> 00:40:36,465 Ultraman... to do this jutsu dance move with his arms, you know, that's the same amount 417 00:40:36,505 --> 00:40:41,488 of time it takes Godzilla to counter with a beam of his atomic breath, causing the two 418 00:40:41,548 --> 00:40:47,572 energies to collide and form a massive explosion. Whoa, whoa, what's happening? They're being 419 00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:55,878 sucked into another vortex. And they're gone. AJ 9K, status report, please. Reading anomaly 420 00:40:55,938 --> 00:41:00,881 energy signature. The combatants are traversing via interdimensional portal to the Max Destruction 421 00:41:00,921 --> 00:41:07,550 podcast. Estimated time of arrival tomorrow. Okay, well, I guess we'll figure out what happens 422 00:41:07,570 --> 00:41:12,834 with these two characters tomorrow on the Max Destruction podcast Just before the characters 423 00:41:12,874 --> 00:41:18,279 left though. I was able to glance at their stats and the comic versions are pretty impressive 424 00:41:18,339 --> 00:41:22,622 specimens Yeah, they definitely both have a lot going for each other They're both incredibly 425 00:41:22,662 --> 00:41:28,126 destructive characters able to level whole cities in their battles, but You know, Godzilla is 426 00:41:28,166 --> 00:41:34,208 just so insanely strong and durable. Although you can't discount Ultraman's agility and his 427 00:41:34,288 --> 00:41:38,889 fighting skill and his intellect. You know, Godzilla is a big dumb comparatively. Yeah, 428 00:41:38,909 --> 00:41:43,590 but Godzilla did get the edge when it came to perception because he's able to sense monsters 429 00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:49,112 from an entire continent away. Who needs perception when you have speed? You know, Ultraman's faster 430 00:41:49,152 --> 00:41:55,554 than Godzilla. Who needs speed? We've got fucking atomic breath. It'll be interesting to see 431 00:41:55,594 --> 00:42:00,739 who wins when we finally get the results of this match on Thursday on the Senjoworld podcast. 432 00:42:00,759 --> 00:42:05,162 So if you guys want to know who wins, be sure to continue on with the DynaMic Podcast Network. 433 00:42:05,583 --> 00:42:10,927 Tomorrow you get to hear hosts Ken and Scotty talk about movie versions of the two characters 434 00:42:10,967 --> 00:42:16,632 fighting and on Thursday, host Zach is going to be breaking down really powerful anime versions 435 00:42:16,672 --> 00:42:21,358 of the characters. You do not want to miss it. And again, don't miss out on yesterday's episode 436 00:42:21,398 --> 00:42:25,639 on console combat where they talked about the video game versions of Godzilla and Ultraman. 437 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,020 But that does it for this duel guys, let us know what you thought about our speculation 438 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:35,022 by writing to us at dyna or by visiting us on Instagram, which you can find a link to on 439 00:42:35,062 --> 00:42:40,004 our show notes, or by visiting our website at dynamicduel.com. And on our site you can also 440 00:42:40,044 --> 00:42:45,065 find a link to our Patreon page, where you can join our dynamic2o tier and chat with us and 441 00:42:45,085 --> 00:42:50,563 fellow listeners. our Fantastic Four tier, which gets you bonus content each month, our X-Force 442 00:42:50,583 --> 00:42:55,524 tier that makes you an executive producer of this podcast, or our newest tier that lets 443 00:42:55,564 --> 00:43:00,286 you join our DynaMic Podcast Network. 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