1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,959 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,142 --> 00:00:28,124 Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films 3 00:00:28,624 --> 00:00:33,386 and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters and stat-based 4 00:00:33,546 --> 00:00:39,890 battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And in this episode, 5 00:00:39,930 --> 00:00:44,412 we are going to find out who'd win in a fight between the two Native American characters 6 00:00:44,632 --> 00:00:52,091 of Black Condor and Warpath. Warpath being a member of the X-Men, actually X-Force, and 7 00:00:52,111 --> 00:00:58,013 this is kind of a tie into our previous episode which was a review of X-Men 97. But it's also 8 00:00:58,033 --> 00:01:04,154 a lead up to our future team duel episode of Outsiders vs X-Force, which is going to be 9 00:01:04,334 --> 00:01:08,516 in September. So look forward to learning more about X-Force and the Outsiders throughout 10 00:01:08,556 --> 00:01:13,117 these upcoming months. Before we input the character stats and run simulations to find out which 11 00:01:13,157 --> 00:01:16,688 character would win in a fight. we're gonna break down the latest comic book movie news 12 00:01:16,728 --> 00:01:20,792 to come out this past week. Of which there was just one news item, we learned about who the 13 00:01:20,812 --> 00:01:26,878 writers are gonna be for the upcoming Lanterns DCU television series. As always, we list our 14 00:01:26,918 --> 00:01:30,581 segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you 15 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:35,366 wanna skip ahead to a particular topic. Our artificially intelligent duel simulator, AJ-9K, 16 00:01:36,127 --> 00:01:42,656 has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. Why hello there. Do you love listening 17 00:01:42,696 --> 00:01:47,861 and chatting about Marvel and DC? Then become a part of the dynamic duel community on Patreon, 18 00:01:48,122 --> 00:01:53,307 where you can choose from three tiers. The dynamic two-o tier lets you listen to this podcast 19 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:57,912 without ads and gives you access to its discord chat group, where you can chat with Johnny 20 00:01:57,952 --> 00:02:03,271 DC and Marvellous Joe. The Fantastic Four tier gives you that and more with two bonus episodes 21 00:02:03,311 --> 00:02:07,953 each month, including bloopers and top ten shows where Johnny and Joe count down your favourite 22 00:02:07,993 --> 00:02:13,016 Marvel and DC subjects. The X-Force tier makes you an executive producer of Dynamic Duel, 23 00:02:13,376 --> 00:02:17,298 where every month you help the hosts choose what to review and who to fight against each 24 00:02:17,358 --> 00:02:23,300 other. And finally, the Dynamite Podcast Network tier allows aspiring podcasters to create their 25 00:02:23,441 --> 00:02:26,642 own battle-focused show using this Monte Carlo simulator. 26 00:02:46,349 --> 00:02:50,911 Thanks AJ9K, and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast. Be sure to tune into the shows 27 00:02:50,951 --> 00:02:56,133 on the DynaMic Podcast Network this week, including Max Destruction, which pits your favorite action 28 00:02:56,153 --> 00:03:01,111 heroes from film and television against each other. Hosts Ken and Scotty are returning this 29 00:03:01,151 --> 00:03:06,115 week for the show's third season premiere, this time pitting Starro the Conqueror from the 30 00:03:06,155 --> 00:03:12,300 Suicide Squad against Legendary's King Kong. On the Senjou World podcast, host Zachary Hepburn 31 00:03:12,561 --> 00:03:17,945 speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. This Thursday for the 32 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:23,469 show's season finale, we'll learn who will win between Rimuro Tempest from That Time I Got 33 00:03:23,510 --> 00:03:31,494 Reincarnated as a Slime vs. Yateng Jujji aka Rau from Reim Monster. And on the Console Combat 34 00:03:31,534 --> 00:03:36,416 Podcast, hosts John and Dean find out who would win in fights between popular video game characters. 35 00:03:36,756 --> 00:03:43,938 In yesterday's episode, they reviewed the 2007 film Hitman. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click 36 00:03:43,958 --> 00:03:48,499 the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network. 37 00:03:48,859 --> 00:03:54,941 But with that out of the way, quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award Marvel used to 38 00:03:54,961 --> 00:04:00,346 give out to fans. Our version, the dynamic duel no prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram 39 00:04:00,366 --> 00:04:05,449 for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week's question 40 00:04:05,489 --> 00:04:10,671 was, who's your favorite robot superhero or villain from Marvel or DC and why? And this 41 00:04:10,711 --> 00:04:15,373 is coming off of the news that the upcoming Vision series from Marvel Television will be 42 00:04:15,413 --> 00:04:21,015 coming out in 2026. We got four answers, so let's break down this week's honorable mentions 43 00:04:21,035 --> 00:04:26,717 before revealing the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Abner O'Terry. Who 44 00:04:26,757 --> 00:04:34,397 said? Hey guys, what's up? It's Abner O'Terry. And my answer is obviously Robot from The Doom 45 00:04:34,438 --> 00:04:41,241 Patrol because, uh, he's awesome. You can't get better than a punk-rocking robot. He's 46 00:04:41,261 --> 00:04:47,945 the best. What the fuuuuck? It's Robotman! But I agree, he's awesome. He's probably my favorite 47 00:04:47,985 --> 00:04:53,008 personal robot character as well. I still remember when I was first becoming a DC fan, I had gotten 48 00:04:53,028 --> 00:04:57,931 my first cell phone and I said Robotman. as my wallpaper, because I just like the idea 49 00:04:57,971 --> 00:05:03,255 of carrying Robotman around. Is he a punk rock robot or is he more, you know, heavy metal? 50 00:05:03,695 --> 00:05:10,279 Heavy metal for sure. Great answer Abner. Our next honorable mention goes to Miggy Matangian, 51 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,644 who said, Hey, what's up guys? This is Miggy and my favorite robot superhero. Does it count 52 00:05:16,664 --> 00:05:22,187 as a superhero? It's more of a sidekick. I guess that counts. It's Geetz. Booster Gold's like 53 00:05:22,428 --> 00:05:28,532 robotic sidekick from the 25th century. He's just like very sarcastic and a lot smarter 54 00:05:28,552 --> 00:05:33,675 than Booster Gold. So it's just a funny like relationship between the two of them. Yeah, 55 00:05:33,715 --> 00:05:38,179 excited to see him in the live action show. Wonder who they'll get to voice him. To the 56 00:05:38,219 --> 00:05:44,824 sweat drips down my balls. All these bitches call. Ah, skeet skeet, motherfucker. Ah, skeet 57 00:05:45,124 --> 00:05:49,227 skeet. How dare you disrespect skeet's name? Mickey's right. He's a pretty cool robot. He's 58 00:05:49,267 --> 00:05:54,566 a great foil and companion to Booster Gold because I think. of how they play up on the fact that 59 00:05:54,606 --> 00:05:59,968 he knows more than Booster Gold, who is often depicted as kind of dumb. Miggie was wondering 60 00:06:00,008 --> 00:06:03,710 who will voice Skeets in the upcoming Booster Gold television series. What do you think? 61 00:06:04,210 --> 00:06:09,872 Honestly, I think you could get away with doing a voice actor that I think you need a celebrity 62 00:06:09,932 --> 00:06:14,494 voice. And in that regard, I don't think you could do better than Billy West, who did the 63 00:06:14,534 --> 00:06:20,377 voice of Skeets the Robot for the Justice League Unlimited animated show. Yeah, Billy West is 64 00:06:20,397 --> 00:06:25,231 fantastic. He does the voice of Fry in Futurama. and literally dozens of other voices. There's 65 00:06:25,251 --> 00:06:28,674 no time to throw up. He's the red M&M. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Maybe one day we'll get 66 00:06:28,694 --> 00:06:34,739 around to doing a duel with Skeets. Who knows? Ah, Skeet, Skeet. Let's go to move on to the 67 00:06:34,779 --> 00:06:40,723 next answer given by Christopher Manotti who said. Hi guys, Christopher Manotti. As a DC 68 00:06:40,743 --> 00:06:45,807 fan, I have to say Red Tornado. I really like this character. He's not your typical kind 69 00:06:45,847 --> 00:06:51,615 of robot that shoots lasers and hacks into stuff. His power is literally generating tornadoes. 70 00:06:51,735 --> 00:06:56,039 I think that's pretty cool. I also think his character is really interesting. I especially 71 00:06:56,079 --> 00:07:02,524 liked in the Young Justice show when you find out that he built another body for himself 72 00:07:02,584 --> 00:07:07,908 so that he could experience humanity. Really cool. Yeah, Red Tornado I would say is probably 73 00:07:07,948 --> 00:07:13,612 one of the most powerful androids out there. He has a very complicated backstory, you know, 74 00:07:13,632 --> 00:07:19,204 coming from the Tornado Tyrant, which was... a literal tornado villain from the planet ran. 75 00:07:19,604 --> 00:07:24,027 If you guys aren't familiar with him, we did a duel between him and Sandman, which was pretty 76 00:07:24,067 --> 00:07:29,851 cool, I thought. It's interesting to have a robot character who is so elemental. He's very 77 00:07:30,231 --> 00:07:34,454 bound to the earth and very natural in that regard, considering he's basically a sentient 78 00:07:34,494 --> 00:07:40,118 tornado. But also, he's like the pinnacle of technology. So there's an interesting dichotomy 79 00:07:40,158 --> 00:07:44,521 to that character. Yeah, for sure. Great answer, Christopher. But the winner of this week's 80 00:07:44,541 --> 00:07:47,695 Snow Prize is... Travis Herndon who said, 81 00:08:12,138 --> 00:08:15,900 Well, you're talented in your opinion, but you're gonna get throat chopped from me if you're 82 00:08:15,940 --> 00:08:20,844 saying that. And I will second that throat chop. Yeah, anybody who hates on Baymax is lying 83 00:08:20,864 --> 00:08:24,687 to themselves and deserve to be throat chopped. I don't know if I would consider Baymax to 84 00:08:24,707 --> 00:08:30,551 be as iconic as the Terminator or R2-D2, but, you know, I think he's probably a class just 85 00:08:30,671 --> 00:08:35,314 under that. Okay, Mr. Robot Popularity Expert, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 86 00:08:35,715 --> 00:08:40,490 Baymax is awesome. He's one of the more unique robots out there and it's- really interesting 87 00:08:40,530 --> 00:08:45,453 considering that he is also a superhero and a healthcare robot. There's a dichotomy to 88 00:08:45,493 --> 00:08:50,095 him as well. And he has a one of a kind personality. Like what are you talking about man? He's all 89 00:08:50,115 --> 00:08:54,858 the way up there in terms of the upper echelon of pop culture robots. And he's a Marvel character. 90 00:08:55,098 --> 00:08:59,381 So bonus points. Yeah, I figured we were going to give the win to the one person who didn't 91 00:08:59,421 --> 00:09:06,225 respond with a DC answer. That's right. Honestly, I just don't want to get throat chopped. Well, 92 00:09:06,245 --> 00:09:10,930 too bad. It's gonna happen. Great answer Travis, you win this week's no prize. If you the listener 93 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:14,715 won a shot at winning your own no prize, stay tuned till later on this episode when we'll 94 00:09:14,735 --> 00:09:19,181 be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, on to the news! 95 00:09:24,974 --> 00:09:32,639 Okay, so last week DC Studios CEO James Gunn confirmed on Instagram that the Lanterns showrunners 96 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:40,644 would be Damon Lindelof from Watchmen and Lost Fame and Chris Mundy, the showrunner of Ozark 97 00:09:40,944 --> 00:09:46,928 and former writer for shows like Criminal Minds, Cold Case, Bloodline, and True Detective. Which, 98 00:09:47,289 --> 00:09:51,752 it's funny that the show has always been pitched as True Detective in space and they actually 99 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:56,587 got a writer from True Detective to work on the show. I've never seen Ozark, but I hear 100 00:09:56,607 --> 00:10:01,432 that it's really good. I have seen Watchmen by Damon Lindelof, and that's essentially, 101 00:10:01,452 --> 00:10:06,476 in my opinion, the greatest television series for Marvel or DC that has ever been made. The 102 00:10:06,516 --> 00:10:11,561 thing won so many Emmys, it won a freaking Peabody, it doesn't get better than this writing duo. 103 00:10:11,981 --> 00:10:18,808 I'm not gonna lie, I'm kinda insane with jealous rage right now at these like God tier showrunners 104 00:10:18,828 --> 00:10:23,736 for this show. It's gonna be incredible. I think. David Lindelof did a fantastic job with the 105 00:10:23,756 --> 00:10:27,958 Watchmen series. The way that he brought that story into the modern era in a sequel series 106 00:10:27,978 --> 00:10:32,602 was exceptionally done. And I think with these guys working on the show, DC fans really have 107 00:10:32,622 --> 00:10:38,205 nothing to worry about. Oh no, this has like easily become with this news, like my most 108 00:10:38,305 --> 00:10:44,430 anticipated project from the upcoming DCU. This show is going to be so high brow, like Game 109 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:48,693 of Thrones quality, I suspect. It sounds like it's going to be way better than what Greg 110 00:10:48,713 --> 00:10:53,196 Berlanti was coming up with. Don't get me wrong, shows like Arrow and The Flash were good, but 111 00:10:53,516 --> 00:10:59,742 they're no The Leftovers, they're no Watchmen, they're no Ozark from what I've heard. What's 112 00:10:59,782 --> 00:11:05,026 really cool though is that they're not only showrunning the series, but Chris Mundy, Damon 113 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:10,431 Lindelof, and acclaimed comic book writer Tom King also wrote the pilot script and the show's 114 00:11:10,491 --> 00:11:15,576 Bible. Which if you're not familiar with that, it's basically the entire background, history, 115 00:11:15,836 --> 00:11:21,408 and premise of the show. So it sounds like they're really in charge of DC's like cosmic universe 116 00:11:21,468 --> 00:11:26,631 as it were. And that's amazing. Sounds like Green Lantern is finally, finally going to 117 00:11:26,651 --> 00:11:32,494 get his due. Not on this big screen, I guess, but you know, at least on a screen that's non-animated. 118 00:11:32,854 --> 00:11:37,257 Well, the cool thing is that it's going to tie into the movies that we will see on the big 119 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:42,079 screen. It'll take place in the same universe. Super, super excited by this news. It sounds 120 00:11:42,099 --> 00:11:46,730 like it's going to be so much more prestige than I thought it would be. We don't have a 121 00:11:46,810 --> 00:11:51,011 release date for this show yet. Considering the writing talent, I'm sure the show is gonna 122 00:11:51,031 --> 00:11:56,633 be very, very expensive. So it'll probably be a while before we get it. Maybe 2026, I'm guessing. 123 00:11:57,134 --> 00:12:00,355 I can't wait for it. And I'm really looking forward to finding out like who's gonna be 124 00:12:00,395 --> 00:12:05,136 the lead characters. Is it gonna be Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Guy Gardner? We don't know yet. 125 00:12:05,477 --> 00:12:07,337 But that brings us to our question of the week. 126 00:12:11,822 --> 00:12:17,486 Who is your favorite Green Lantern? And why? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking 127 00:12:17,546 --> 00:12:21,369 on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt 128 00:12:21,389 --> 00:12:25,873 you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget 129 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:30,216 to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer 130 00:12:30,556 --> 00:12:35,480 and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer 131 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,141 before June 8th. 132 00:12:44,686 --> 00:12:48,071 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode. So let's go ahead and get into 133 00:12:48,131 --> 00:12:54,761 our main event, where we find out who would win in a fight between Black Condor and Warpath. 134 00:13:10,038 --> 00:13:15,139 Alright, Black Condor versus Warpath. These are two Native American superheroes going head 135 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:20,300 to head and lead up to our upcoming team duel coming out in a few months of Outsiders versus 136 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,042 X-Force. Now, Warpath, you guys may know from the comics, if you read the comics, but if 137 00:13:26,102 --> 00:13:31,323 you are more familiar with just the movies, he was in X-Men Days of Future Past. He was 138 00:13:31,383 --> 00:13:36,945 part of the future X-Men team that was basically getting slaughtered by the Sentinels. Yeah, 139 00:13:36,965 --> 00:13:42,416 and we've never seen Black Condor in live action. Though he was in some animated films, direct 140 00:13:42,436 --> 00:13:48,442 to video film about the Rey, a DC character, and of course he'll be featured in the upcoming 141 00:13:48,542 --> 00:13:53,206 Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 3 film. Only one version of the character has been Native 142 00:13:53,226 --> 00:13:58,311 American though, right? Yes, yeah. There's been four different versions of Black Condor. I'm 143 00:13:58,351 --> 00:14:03,796 going with the Native American Navajo version because he seems to be not only the most popular 144 00:14:03,836 --> 00:14:08,659 because he's been in different media. but also he is the current mainstream version of the 145 00:14:08,699 --> 00:14:13,161 character in DC's Prime Continuity. The character of Black Condor though didn't actually start 146 00:14:13,301 --> 00:14:18,443 off as a DC Comics character. He was a part of Quality Comics, which was eventually purchased 147 00:14:18,503 --> 00:14:25,266 by DC Comics. Black Condor is a creation of Will Eisner, actually. Oh, fascinating. What 148 00:14:25,306 --> 00:14:31,089 other characters are from Quality? Uncle Sam, Phantom Lady, Doll Man, The Ray, basically 149 00:14:31,169 --> 00:14:34,890 all of the Freedom Fighters. Oh, interesting. Well, I'm glad you're going with the Navajo 150 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:40,071 version. It's cool to get all this representation from the Native American tribes because Warpath 151 00:14:40,111 --> 00:14:47,093 is Apache. And then we also have Forge, who's Cheyenne. And then you have Echo, who's Choctaw 152 00:14:47,233 --> 00:14:51,054 in the MCU. But in the comics, she's from the Blackfoot tribe. Oh, and then you have like 153 00:14:51,074 --> 00:14:56,036 Khori from What If, who's part of the Mohawk tribe. Yeah, Black Condor can take all of them 154 00:14:56,116 --> 00:15:03,117 on. OK, OK. Come at me, bro. He's not even going to be able to take on Warpath. So nice tray. 155 00:15:03,518 --> 00:15:08,041 Okay, to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator, 156 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:13,446 Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our 157 00:15:13,486 --> 00:15:18,530 duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants 158 00:15:18,570 --> 00:15:24,595 is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation 159 00:15:24,655 --> 00:15:30,360 is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomize 160 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:35,816 the statistics along a as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. 161 00:15:36,216 --> 00:15:40,960 The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from which the DC characters' 162 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,164 statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage 163 00:15:46,204 --> 00:15:51,608 potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. 164 00:15:52,108 --> 00:15:56,911 The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. The 165 00:15:56,952 --> 00:16:01,387 contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor as they have a higher probability 166 00:16:01,427 --> 00:16:07,252 to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. 167 00:16:07,772 --> 00:16:12,256 The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so 168 00:16:12,296 --> 00:16:16,159 the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established 169 00:16:16,199 --> 00:16:21,764 in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are 170 00:16:21,784 --> 00:16:27,589 not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner. 171 00:16:27,609 --> 00:16:31,962 Thanks, Adrien NK! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's 172 00:16:32,002 --> 00:16:36,844 histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 173 00:16:37,164 --> 00:16:42,406 simulations would play out beat for beat. And it's my turn to go first with the Marvel characters 174 00:16:42,426 --> 00:16:49,128 backstory, so let me tell you guys all about the X-Man Warpath. James Proudstar was born 175 00:16:49,168 --> 00:16:55,149 to Neil and Maria Proudstar on the Apache Native American Reservation in Camp Verde, Arizona. 176 00:16:55,682 --> 00:17:01,185 James idolized his older brother John Proudstar, who was a skilled athlete and decorated United 177 00:17:01,225 --> 00:17:07,088 States Marine. Upon John's return from military duty back to the reservation, James witnessed 178 00:17:07,128 --> 00:17:11,771 his brother's mutant ability manifest for the first time when he saved the life of a little 179 00:17:11,791 --> 00:17:17,074 girl by wrestling a charging bison to the ground. John was soon discovered by Professor X using 180 00:17:17,154 --> 00:17:23,757 Cerebro and was recruited into the latest iteration of the X-Men team, taking on the codename Thunderbird. 181 00:17:24,266 --> 00:17:29,607 Alongside new recruits such as Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Sunfire, and Banshee, 182 00:17:30,087 --> 00:17:34,829 Jon helped rescue the original X-Men members from the Sentient Island nation of Krakoa. 183 00:17:35,269 --> 00:17:40,150 You can learn more about the X-Men, Inner Titans vs X-Men team duel, and more about Krakoa in 184 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:45,792 its duel against Danny the Street. In Jon's next X-Men mission, he prevented the evil Count 185 00:17:45,832 --> 00:17:51,713 Nefaria from escaping in a small aircraft by jumping onto it and smashing it mid-air until 186 00:17:51,753 --> 00:17:56,896 it exploded. It was an act that bravely, but unfortunately, sacrificed his life for the 187 00:17:56,936 --> 00:18:01,819 team. James was devastated upon learning of his older brother John's death and blamed the 188 00:18:01,999 --> 00:18:07,702 X-Men. Although John was to be buried with military honors, James stole his brother's body and 189 00:18:07,742 --> 00:18:13,105 gave him a traditional Apache warrior funeral, in that moment swearing vengeance on Professor 190 00:18:13,365 --> 00:18:19,588 X and manifesting his own mutant abilities, the very same as his brother's. James was approached 191 00:18:19,648 --> 00:18:25,193 by and joined the Hellions. which was a rival mutant team to the X-Men, led by the Hellfire 192 00:18:25,213 --> 00:18:30,117 Club's White Queen, Emma Frost, whom you can learn more about in her duel against Poison 193 00:18:30,217 --> 00:18:35,235 Ivy. James took on the codename Thunderbird to honor his brother's memory, and went on 194 00:18:35,255 --> 00:18:39,537 to fight the X-Men out of vengeance, but learned in the course of their battle that Professor 195 00:18:39,677 --> 00:18:45,098 X was not responsible for John's death, and that John died as a true hero and warrior. 196 00:18:45,539 --> 00:18:49,800 James declined an invitation to join the New Mutants and returned to the reservation with 197 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,914 his vendetta abandoned. Many years later, while on a trip to New York, James was approached 198 00:18:55,034 --> 00:19:00,076 by the mutant Cable, who wanted to recruit him onto his strike force team called X-Force. 199 00:19:00,576 --> 00:19:05,578 Though James initially declined, he returned home to the reservation to find everyone slaughtered, 200 00:19:05,759 --> 00:19:10,781 and joined the X-Force under the new code name Warpath in an effort to discover who the killer 201 00:19:10,821 --> 00:19:16,043 was. During his tenure on the team, he developed his powers to increase his mutant-enhanced 202 00:19:16,083 --> 00:19:21,305 strength and senses, and began a relationship with fellow X-Force member Siren, the daughter 203 00:19:21,345 --> 00:19:26,805 of Banshee. Eventually, James learned who murdered his people at the reservation. It was Cable's 204 00:19:26,865 --> 00:19:32,990 clone from the future named Strife, who at the time was dead. James was soon killed and journeyed 205 00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:38,053 into hell itself to seek revenge against Strife, fighting him alongside the X-Force who were 206 00:19:38,093 --> 00:19:44,338 brought into the realm by Valkyrie to save James' soul. In the end, X-Force won, returning James 207 00:19:44,418 --> 00:19:49,826 back to life. You can learn more about Cable in his duel against Booster Gold. Soon after, 208 00:19:50,006 --> 00:19:55,189 James and the rest of the X-Force found themselves caught in a vibranium bomb explosion that seemingly 209 00:19:55,229 --> 00:20:00,331 killed the group. In reality, they survived the attack and clandestinely prevented an alien 210 00:20:00,391 --> 00:20:06,299 invasion. During that time, James' powers began to fluctuate. temporarily giving him the power 211 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:12,585 to fly, and also removing his ability to speak at one point. However, eventually, his powers 212 00:20:12,645 --> 00:20:17,430 returned to normal. After the Scarlet Witch was driven mad and used her reality-warping 213 00:20:17,470 --> 00:20:22,695 powers to remove the abilities of mutants around the world, James was fortunate enough to retain 214 00:20:22,735 --> 00:20:28,200 his abilities and joined a new iteration of X-Force where he was gifted vibranium knives 215 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:33,664 by Storm and Black Panther. The new team was tasked with completing missions deemed too 216 00:20:33,704 --> 00:20:39,068 secret or extreme for the main X-Men to handle. One of X-Force missions was to defeat a horde 217 00:20:39,088 --> 00:20:45,092 of resurrected mutants turned evil by the Black Queen, Selene. One of the revived mutants being 218 00:20:45,172 --> 00:20:50,937 James' brother, John. James had to kill his brother in an act of mercy and ended up killing 219 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:56,120 Selene by stabbing her in the chest with her own dagger, freeing the souls of the resurrected 220 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,308 mutants she was controlling. James then left X-Force to later join the X-Men on their new 221 00:21:01,408 --> 00:21:07,233 island base of Utopia off the coast of San Francisco. James was later captured by the secret government 222 00:21:07,273 --> 00:21:12,897 project called Weapon X for experimentation. However, he was rescued alongside other captives 223 00:21:12,997 --> 00:21:18,441 by a future version of Wolverine, and the group took on the name Weapon X, serving as a mutant 224 00:21:18,541 --> 00:21:24,025 rescue squad. While on the team, James developed a romantic relationship with the mutant Domino. 225 00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:28,935 However, he left when Old Man Logan stepped down from leadership and Sabertooth took over 226 00:21:28,975 --> 00:21:33,856 to turn the team into a mercenary squad. You can learn more about Wolverine, Domino, and 227 00:21:33,896 --> 00:21:39,158 Sabertooth in their respective duels against Hawkman, Harley Quinn, and Killer Croc respectively. 228 00:21:39,618 --> 00:21:43,879 James joined the majority of Earth's mutants in creating their new mutant nation on the 229 00:21:43,939 --> 00:21:49,281 sentient island of Krakoa. There, he joined former new mutants members including Mirage, 230 00:21:49,421 --> 00:21:53,975 Magic, and Wolfsbane, in helping train young mutants living on the island on how to control 231 00:21:54,015 --> 00:21:59,737 their new powers. While there, James' brother John was able to be resurrected as Professor 232 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:05,160 X, Magneto, and the other heads of Krakoa had developed a system of mutant resurrection using 233 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,562 a combination of mutant powers including mass generation, reality warping, time manipulation, 234 00:22:10,802 --> 00:22:15,784 and genetic and psychic archiving. Though initially fearing to meet his brother out of fear that 235 00:22:15,825 --> 00:22:21,567 he had somehow failed to live up to him, James and John finally reunited and left Krakoa to 236 00:22:21,627 --> 00:22:27,669 return to the reservation together. After Krakoa was attacked by the anti-mutant terrorist organization 237 00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:33,632 Orcus, James and John's Apache Reservation became a makeshift mutant refugee camp. And that's 238 00:22:33,692 --> 00:22:39,234 Warpath's backstory. Powers-wise, Warpath has an enhanced mutant physiology that grants him 239 00:22:39,274 --> 00:22:45,817 increased strength, able to lift a maximum of 75 tons, increased speed, able to run 100 miles 240 00:22:45,877 --> 00:22:51,628 per hour, Nearing Vulnerability and Increased Agility. In the event he is injured, he has 241 00:22:51,668 --> 00:22:56,911 an increased healing speed. Warpath also has enhanced senses, including hearing, smelling, 242 00:22:56,971 --> 00:23:02,594 and seeing at great distances, and night vision. He also has some mystic senses, allowing him 243 00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:08,137 to perceive supernatural energies. Warpath is a highly skilled hand-to-hand fighter and wields 244 00:23:08,237 --> 00:23:14,220 two large daggers made out of vibranium. Finally, while he was able to fly for a period of time 245 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,840 when his powers were temporarily in It seems as if he is sometimes still able to tap into 246 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:25,043 that power. It's unclear, but it's an ability that's rarely used at best. So for the purposes 247 00:23:25,103 --> 00:23:29,947 of the speculation and the simulations, I'm gonna treat his flight power as more like a 248 00:23:30,007 --> 00:23:35,631 vast leaping ability, which seems more true to the spirit of the character. If he is a 249 00:23:35,651 --> 00:23:40,714 flyer, he's not a skilled or practiced one. And those are his powers. Yeah, I'm not gonna 250 00:23:40,734 --> 00:23:46,478 lie, that character is not as interesting as Black Condor. What are you talking about? You 251 00:23:46,498 --> 00:23:51,741 don't like the brother aspect with Warpath and his brother Thunderbird? Not really. Well, 252 00:23:51,841 --> 00:23:59,725 you are just a horrible brother then. How about that? Sure, but I think you'll get what I'm 253 00:23:59,765 --> 00:24:04,748 talking about when I go over Black Condor's backstory, which actually begins in the Golden 254 00:24:04,788 --> 00:24:11,132 Age of Comics. Now, when archaeologist Richard Gray and his wife were killed by bandits during 255 00:24:11,172 --> 00:24:18,448 an expedition in Mongolia, their orphaned son, Richard Gray Jr. was raised by an unusually 256 00:24:18,508 --> 00:24:24,393 intelligent race of Condors, from whom the young Richard seemingly learned to fly, though it 257 00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:30,217 was later revealed that his powers derived from his metahuman abilities of telepathy and telekinesis. 258 00:24:30,797 --> 00:24:34,080 As Richard grew into a young man- Seriously, raised by Condors? That's a better backstory. 259 00:24:34,901 --> 00:24:39,444 That's a freaking fantastic golden age origin. Does not get more golden age than that. Now 260 00:24:39,484 --> 00:24:45,631 as Richard grew into a young man- A hermit named Father Pierre found and educated Richard, teaching 261 00:24:45,671 --> 00:24:51,514 him survival skills and worldly knowledge. After Father Pierre's death, Richard became the costumed 262 00:24:51,574 --> 00:24:57,277 adventurer Black Condor, designing a black outfit with glider wings to resemble the birds that 263 00:24:57,297 --> 00:25:01,999 had saved his life. After tracking down and killing the Mongolian bandits that murdered 264 00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:08,061 his parents, Richard traveled to America, where he assumed the identity of Senator Thomas Wright. 265 00:25:08,342 --> 00:25:13,644 his doppelganger, after Richard failed to stop a plot to assassinate the senator. After some 266 00:25:13,684 --> 00:25:19,568 time fighting crooked politicians, Richard joined the Freedom Fighters during World War II, led 267 00:25:19,608 --> 00:25:25,431 by the personified spirit of America known as Uncle Sam, which later became part of a larger 268 00:25:25,471 --> 00:25:31,154 team known as the All-Star Squadron, which fought the Nazis in Europe. The Freedom Fighters eventually 269 00:25:31,234 --> 00:25:36,657 ended up in an alternate universe known as Earth-X, where the Axis powers successfully conquered 270 00:25:36,697 --> 00:25:41,767 the world. After two and a half decades of fighting the Nazis, Richard and the Freedom Fighters 271 00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:46,829 were eventually able to end the war with help from the Justice Society and the Justice League 272 00:25:46,849 --> 00:25:51,351 of America, teams you can learn more about in their team duels against the Fantastic Four 273 00:25:51,411 --> 00:25:57,354 and Avengers respectively. Though Richard traveled to the main DC universe, Earth-1, to continue 274 00:25:57,394 --> 00:26:02,836 his superhero career as the Black Condor, he eventually returned to Earth-X to help rebuild 275 00:26:03,116 --> 00:26:08,800 the war-torn world that had become his home. A new black condor emerged years later, named 276 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,125 Ryan Kendall. For over 200 years, the Kendall family and their associates, known as the Society 277 00:26:15,165 --> 00:26:21,050 of the Golden Wing, had pursued the dream of creating a flying man. Initially, their methods 278 00:26:21,090 --> 00:26:25,774 were harmless, but as their obsession grew, so did the macabre nature of their experiments. 279 00:26:26,195 --> 00:26:31,639 By the early 20th century, their attempts had become brutal and inhumane, and they continued 280 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:39,011 to fail. By the 1960s, The society turned to mutation, irradiating the womb of Ryan's mother 281 00:26:39,111 --> 00:26:45,753 to ensure her child would be born with tailored genetic mutations. The child, Ryan, grew up 282 00:26:45,953 --> 00:26:50,974 isolated under the care of his grandfather, Creighton Kendall, the Golden Wing Society's 283 00:26:51,074 --> 00:26:57,116 leader. For 20 years, Ryan underwent various chemical, radioactive, and physical treatments, 284 00:26:57,656 --> 00:27:03,174 and on his 21st birthday, the final and most significant treatment left him in a coma instead 285 00:27:03,194 --> 00:27:08,738 of achieving the society's desired outcome. Ryan was sent to a special care facility, an 286 00:27:08,778 --> 00:27:14,941 asylum for the society's failed subjects, where for two years while in a coma, he was fully 287 00:27:14,981 --> 00:27:20,244 aware of his surroundings and learned about the true twisted nature of the society. Upon 288 00:27:20,284 --> 00:27:26,248 awakening, feeling betrayed and violated, Ryan fled and eventually settled in New Jersey's 289 00:27:26,348 --> 00:27:32,815 Pine Barrens, living as a hermit. There he befriended a park ranger named Ned David Smith, who was 290 00:27:32,855 --> 00:27:38,696 a Delaware Native American who helped Ryan adjust to life outside of isolation. Ned suggested 291 00:27:38,736 --> 00:27:44,678 the name Black Condor, reflecting Ryan's dark and predatory nature. Although reclusive and 292 00:27:44,738 --> 00:27:51,260 reluctant to embrace the role of a hero, Ryan, as the Black Condor, had an instinctive, heroic 293 00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:56,541 nature, fighting alongside other superheroes such as Hawkman and eventually joining a new 294 00:27:56,601 --> 00:28:01,946 incarnation of the Freedom Fighters. Ryan was later killed by Sinestro alongside other freedom 295 00:28:01,966 --> 00:28:07,008 fighters when they were ambushed by the secret society of supervillains. Though Ryan would 296 00:28:07,048 --> 00:28:12,770 return briefly as a black lantern during the Blackest Night event, a Navajo man named John 297 00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:18,311 Trujillo would later claim the black condor mantle after he was gifted elemental powers 298 00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:24,353 from the Mesoamerican deity Tokadol, also known as the Spider Woman, whose webbing holds the 299 00:28:24,393 --> 00:28:29,256 fabric of the universe together. He was not his tribe's first to bear the Black Condor 300 00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:36,442 title, as nearly 150 years earlier, U.S. Colonel Kit Carson raided a Navajo stronghold within 301 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:42,127 the Arizona canyons, forcing its citizens to march 300 miles east for a resettlement in 302 00:28:42,147 --> 00:28:47,791 what was known as the Long Walk. Many Navajo died along the way, and their bodies were feasted 303 00:28:47,831 --> 00:28:54,111 upon by Black Condors, or vultures. Those who survived believed the Black Condors were rescuing 304 00:28:54,151 --> 00:29:00,294 the souls of those who died to return them to the Arizona canyons. When the Navajo eventually 305 00:29:00,374 --> 00:29:05,436 did return to the canyons, they faced attacks from cattlemen who wanted to steal their land. 306 00:29:05,796 --> 00:29:11,019 When a young man begged to coddle for help, like she did with John Trujillo, she imbued 307 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:16,021 him with the powers of the Black Condor to protect his people. John fought alongside the Freedom 308 00:29:16,061 --> 00:29:21,262 Fighters in his first mission, and continues as a member of the team in DC's Prime continuity. 309 00:29:21,723 --> 00:29:26,904 With the re-emergence of the multiverse, the Nazi-controlled Earth-X returned, along with 310 00:29:26,964 --> 00:29:32,806 a new version of the Freedom Fighters to combat them with a new black condor named Marcus Robbins. 311 00:29:33,226 --> 00:29:39,107 Born to contemporary black slaves working in a Detroit industrial complex who dreamed they 312 00:29:39,127 --> 00:29:44,289 could fly away from their indentured servitude. After Marcus and his father secretly built 313 00:29:44,329 --> 00:29:49,920 a prototype of mechanical wings, and the Nazis found out about it, Marcus's father forced 314 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:56,245 him to fly away to save himself while his parents were taken and never seen again. Marcus became 315 00:29:56,325 --> 00:30:01,368 a legend among the Detroit workers known as the Black Condor, and after joining the Freedom 316 00:30:01,408 --> 00:30:07,012 Fighters, Marcus returned to Detroit and led a revolt among the black community there against 317 00:30:07,092 --> 00:30:12,376 the Nazis. For this duel, I'll be going with the current Prime Universe version of Black 318 00:30:12,396 --> 00:30:17,821 Condor, John Trujillo. in part because the executive producers felt that version was the best one 319 00:30:17,841 --> 00:30:23,848 to compete against Warpath. Powers-wise, most versions of Black Condor have had low-level 320 00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:30,234 telekinesis, which not only enabled them to fly, but also emit telekinetic bursts. Since 321 00:30:30,294 --> 00:30:36,701 John Trujillo is divinely empowered rather than a metahuman, his power manifests as aerokinesis. 322 00:30:37,142 --> 00:30:42,426 allowing him to manipulate the wind so that he can fly at great speeds using his biological 323 00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:49,131 wings and create gales or whirlwinds. John also draws power from the earth, granting him increased 324 00:30:49,211 --> 00:30:55,236 strength and durability. He's also a trained warrior. That's Black Condor. Uh, yeah, none 325 00:30:55,276 --> 00:31:00,580 of those origins were better than Warpaths. Come on! None of them? Brotherly love, man. 326 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:07,098 Oh my gosh. Brotherly love. is not a greater story than overcoming Native American oppression 327 00:31:07,358 --> 00:31:12,043 and slavery. I'm sorry. Well, I'm not going to argue against that, but also you're still 328 00:31:12,063 --> 00:31:20,232 a bad brother. Also, I learned something today. I guess a condor is a vulture. Yeah, I never 329 00:31:20,252 --> 00:31:25,397 knew that. I actually learned that today too. Total mind blow. 330 00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:38,574 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 331 00:31:38,594 --> 00:31:44,319 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 332 00:31:44,379 --> 00:31:50,064 DynaMic Podcast Network presents Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. 333 00:31:52,174 --> 00:31:58,820 Comic Book Titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where TV and action heroes battle every Wednesday. 334 00:31:59,381 --> 00:32:05,307 And Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on 335 00:32:05,327 --> 00:32:11,032 the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, discover who will emerge victorious. 336 00:32:11,553 --> 00:32:15,837 Visit dynamicpodcast.com where we settle the debate and settle the score. 337 00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:23,812 But now that we got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one 338 00:32:23,852 --> 00:32:29,675 of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not the speculation, 339 00:32:29,956 --> 00:32:35,318 but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? 340 00:32:36,219 --> 00:32:40,221 Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge 341 00:32:40,241 --> 00:32:44,623 of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other 342 00:32:44,663 --> 00:32:50,810 character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. The contestants will begin approximately 50 343 00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:56,053 meters apart in a nondescript environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as 344 00:32:56,113 --> 00:33:01,055 no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory 345 00:33:01,075 --> 00:33:05,937 on their own merit." Alright, then let's get into it. Black Condor and Warpath meet on the 346 00:33:05,957 --> 00:33:12,539 battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna say that Warpath goes first, because he's better. He's 347 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:18,306 like, he just has a better name. Like Warpath. That's badass. Black Condor... You know, like 348 00:33:18,346 --> 00:33:22,309 vultures, they just wait around, you know? So Warpath's going first. They're symbols of death. 349 00:33:22,529 --> 00:33:27,874 Like you're walking around and you see a vulture. Yeah, you're going to be freaked out. Warpath 350 00:33:27,934 --> 00:33:32,318 is going to show how freaked out he is by entreating his vibranium daggers from behind his back. 351 00:33:32,698 --> 00:33:38,002 And he's just going to charge at Black Condor like a bison, like 100 miles per hour. And 352 00:33:38,423 --> 00:33:42,907 he's going to jam both of his knives right into Black Condor's chest. You don't think Black 353 00:33:42,947 --> 00:33:49,854 Condor sees Warpath charging at him with those knives? Like. What is he a joke to you? Obviously 354 00:33:49,934 --> 00:33:54,956 Black Condor sees Warpath charging at him at a hundred miles per hour. Like it would only 355 00:33:54,976 --> 00:33:59,797 take Warpath literally a second to cover a 50 meter distance at that speed. A hundred miles 356 00:33:59,837 --> 00:34:04,819 per hour, is that supposed to be fast? By the time Warpath gets to within say like 10 meters 357 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:10,220 of Black Condor, Black Condor is just gonna spread his wings and trap Warpath in this tornado 358 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:15,341 that he generated. And that's gonna launch him just spinning high into the air, at which point. 359 00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:20,416 Black Condor, he's just gonna fly up and plow right into Warpath at full speed with his fists. 360 00:34:20,937 --> 00:34:25,979 Is that even gonna hurt Warpath? Like how strong is Black Condor? Dude, Black Condor, not only 361 00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:32,023 can he, you know, fly really fast to like increase the impact of this blow, but he's also strong 362 00:34:32,063 --> 00:34:38,046 enough to like crack force fields. Okay. I don't even know how to quantify that, but we'll say 363 00:34:38,066 --> 00:34:43,389 that Black Condor flies up, punches Warpath, Warpath gets rocked higher up into the air. 364 00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:50,133 But Warpath's a badass, he doesn't care. He's gonna recover from the punch and he's gonna 365 00:34:50,233 --> 00:34:56,436 skydive back down toward Black Condor, straightening his body for a high-speed dive. And he's just 366 00:34:56,456 --> 00:35:01,919 gonna tackle Black Condor out of the air, slamming him right into the ground and jamming his daggers 367 00:35:01,959 --> 00:35:07,002 right into his kidneys. Actually, Black Condor, he's pretty maneuverable in the air, so I'm 368 00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:11,765 gonna say he just shifts out of the way a little bit from Warpath's dive and Warpath's just 369 00:35:11,785 --> 00:35:22,986 gonna fall to his death. Oh shit! I mean, no, no. Warpath's gonna land on the ground into 370 00:35:23,026 --> 00:35:28,169 the superhero landing pose. You know, like one fist on the ground while kneeling like a badass, 371 00:35:28,709 --> 00:35:33,432 and he's immediately gonna stand up and chucks one of his knives like a bullet right at Black 372 00:35:33,472 --> 00:35:38,435 Condor ripping through one of his wings and forcing him to like spiral down and crash into 373 00:35:38,455 --> 00:35:44,222 the ground. Damn! Okay, that was a good move. I mean, he wouldn't crash because like he could 374 00:35:44,242 --> 00:35:49,004 just generate a gust of wind beneath him before he hits the ground. So that's what he's going 375 00:35:49,024 --> 00:35:53,526 to do here. And now that Black Condor is on the ground, he's going to summon up a wind 376 00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:59,429 that's going to lift debris generated from Warpath's superhero landing. And he's going to use those 377 00:35:59,689 --> 00:36:06,892 stones to just pummel Warpath like hailstones. That would not hurt Warpath at all in the slightest. 378 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:11,506 He just smacks those pebbles away like they're annoying flies or something like that. And 379 00:36:11,646 --> 00:36:17,129 that's when he hurls his second knife right at Black Condor's face. Just whack sticks right 380 00:36:17,169 --> 00:36:22,652 in there headshot. OK, except that the knife is blown with the wind gust down right into 381 00:36:22,672 --> 00:36:27,395 the ground at Black Condor's feet, allowing him to pick up the knife. And that's when Black 382 00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:33,779 Condor is going to use the wind like a vacuum on Warpath and just like suck him in towards 383 00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:40,311 him and stick him with his own knife. Um, I. I guess that a vibranium knife would be able 384 00:36:40,331 --> 00:36:45,954 to pierce Warpath. Yeah, it would. But they're up close and personal now, and Warpath is gonna 385 00:36:46,034 --> 00:36:51,357 grab Black Condor's wrists and force him to pull the knife out of him, like, I don't know, 386 00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:55,200 say his shoulder or whatever. And that's when Warpath's healing factor is gonna kick in. 387 00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:00,283 It's just gonna seal that wound right up. Good as new. I totally forgot that he has a healing 388 00:37:00,303 --> 00:37:06,526 factor. As Warpath is holding onto Black Condor's wrists... He's gonna headbutt him right in 389 00:37:06,546 --> 00:37:11,507 the face, which is gonna cause Black Condor to stumble back a step and he's gonna drop 390 00:37:11,547 --> 00:37:18,269 the knife. And that is when Warpath follows up with a flying dropkick straight to Black 391 00:37:18,309 --> 00:37:23,311 Condor's jaw, laying the fool out cold. Because there's no way he's durable enough to take 392 00:37:23,331 --> 00:37:29,272 a hit like that. Dude, Black Condor is as durable and strong as the ground he stands on. So yeah, 393 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:35,170 he could take it. And while Warpath's on the ground. Before he can get up from his drop 394 00:37:35,210 --> 00:37:40,592 kick, Black Condor is just gonna pin him down onto the ground with this mighty wind that's 395 00:37:40,632 --> 00:37:46,015 also gonna pull the arrow from Warpath's lungs. That's gonna suffocate him and end this fight. 396 00:37:46,135 --> 00:37:50,456 So match over. No, Warpath can just hold his breath. He just holds his breath for a minute. 397 00:37:50,777 --> 00:37:55,078 He's fine and he's gonna summon the strength to reach out and grab his knife that Black 398 00:37:55,098 --> 00:38:01,321 Condor dropped. And you know, since all this wind is pushing him down, Warpath is gonna 399 00:38:01,581 --> 00:38:06,552 punch the ground really hard. creating this like small tremor that causes Black Condor 400 00:38:06,572 --> 00:38:12,117 to lose his bearings long enough for Warpath to at least get to his knees from where he 401 00:38:12,157 --> 00:38:17,522 just uppercut slashes Black Condor up the middle, you know, slicing him right in two. That's 402 00:38:17,542 --> 00:38:22,927 how you match over. Lose his bearings? Black Condor is like really graceful, like a bird. 403 00:38:24,909 --> 00:38:29,653 But I guess we'll leave it there. Either Black Condor suffocates Warpath by pulling the air 404 00:38:29,673 --> 00:38:35,957 from his lungs. or Warpath slices Black Condor, scrote to throat with one of his knives. And 405 00:38:35,977 --> 00:38:40,459 then he scalps him, because that's what the Apache did. I think they did that, yeah. Wow. 406 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,322 But we'll find out which of these scenarios happens by inputting the character stats and 407 00:38:44,362 --> 00:38:50,165 then running a thousand simulations and coming back with a winner. AG9K, hit it! Inputting 408 00:38:50,205 --> 00:38:56,549 data, running calculations, processing results, simulations complete. All right, I like this 409 00:38:56,589 --> 00:39:02,718 matchup. This was an idea by the executive producers. I believe Devin Davis submitted this idea for 410 00:39:02,738 --> 00:39:07,302 a duel match and it was not one that I had in consideration. I was thinking like other strong 411 00:39:07,342 --> 00:39:13,327 guys to go up against Warpath since he's essentially X-Force's or one of X-Force's resident muscle 412 00:39:13,367 --> 00:39:17,331 men. But really I didn't know anything about Black Condor. I didn't know how strong Black 413 00:39:17,371 --> 00:39:22,355 Condor was. All he knew was that he had wings that could allow him to fly. Honestly, I didn't 414 00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:26,622 know much about Black Condor either. He's a pretty obscure character. But you know, he 415 00:39:26,642 --> 00:39:30,384 gets his name dropped every once in a while. I definitely like this John Trujillo version 416 00:39:30,524 --> 00:39:33,826 more than the others, I would say. I've been looking forward to getting him into a duel 417 00:39:34,146 --> 00:39:38,829 at some point. I did like this matchup. Yeah, it was closer than I would have thought, too, 418 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:43,272 considering, you know, the slightly different power sets where Black Condor had a little 419 00:39:43,292 --> 00:39:48,255 bit more in terms of speed and evasiveness because of his flight. Warpath was a little bit higher 420 00:39:48,315 --> 00:39:52,517 in terms of durability and strength. They kind of evened each other out in a lot of areas. 421 00:39:53,034 --> 00:39:58,156 Warpath also had higher perception due to his enhanced senses, but Black Condor had higher 422 00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:02,999 marks on range because he could create gusts of wind that cover entire city blocks. Yeah, 423 00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:07,141 neither character were very versatile and they also matched up pretty evenly when it came 424 00:40:07,181 --> 00:40:12,664 to things like fighting skill and damage level. With all that in consideration, who do you 425 00:40:12,684 --> 00:40:17,907 think's taking the win on this one, Jonathan? It's gotta be Black Condor. I mean, he has 426 00:40:18,007 --> 00:40:22,662 almost everything going for him that Warpath does in terms of strength and durability. but 427 00:40:22,702 --> 00:40:28,304 he has the added bonus of being able to fly and control the wind. I put up the Instagram 428 00:40:28,344 --> 00:40:33,487 poll very, very late, like right before we began recording this episode. Usually I do a day 429 00:40:33,507 --> 00:40:39,529 before. Right now, the poll is sitting at 50 in terms of who people think will win. So that 430 00:40:39,569 --> 00:40:45,132 doesn't help. No, I'm actually surprised that Black Condor has that many votes, though, considering 431 00:40:45,172 --> 00:40:50,626 I feel like Warpath is the more popular character. Is he, though? I feel like most people know 432 00:40:50,646 --> 00:40:55,269 who Thunderbird is, if they know him at all, because he's fairly obscure as well. When you 433 00:40:55,309 --> 00:41:01,112 say Warpath, I'm like, who? Thunderbird's brother. Well, like there was a version of Thunderbird 434 00:41:01,332 --> 00:41:06,375 in the Gifted series as well, which was a spinoff from the X-Men on Fox. The one that no one 435 00:41:06,415 --> 00:41:12,559 watched? Yeah, the one that I didn't even watch. Okay. Well, Instagram polls aside, let's go 436 00:41:12,579 --> 00:41:19,018 ahead and get the results and find out who won. AG9K, the results please. Hey, Yuasa. Alright, 437 00:41:19,058 --> 00:41:31,323 the winner between Black Condor and Warpath is... Warpath. Fuck! Sucks to suck! Warpath 438 00:41:31,403 --> 00:41:37,586 beat Black Condor 539 times out of a thousand matches, meaning Black Condor only won 461, 439 00:41:39,047 --> 00:41:45,966 so Warpath wins 53.9% and Black Condor only wins 46.1% of the time. What the hell? gave 440 00:41:46,006 --> 00:41:50,307 him the win. I thought Black Condor was coming out on top here. Well, the biggest disparity 441 00:41:50,327 --> 00:41:54,829 between the two characters was in two stats. One of them was durability, which Warpath was 442 00:41:54,849 --> 00:41:59,931 higher in, and the other one was range, which Black Condor was higher in. But then Warpath 443 00:42:00,051 --> 00:42:05,614 eked out a small victory when it came to perception and strength. Stupid enhanced senses. I feel 444 00:42:05,654 --> 00:42:10,756 like Black Condor should have enhanced senses. Like, it makes sense for the character to have 445 00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:16,422 that. He just hasn't had enough appearances in the comics for them to establish that. Yeah, 446 00:42:16,782 --> 00:42:22,244 well the comics have established that between Warpath's enhanced reflexes and senses, it 447 00:42:22,264 --> 00:42:27,767 makes him an absolute marksman with his throwing knives. And you know, considering how fast 448 00:42:27,807 --> 00:42:31,628 he can throw, I just don't think that Black Hunter would stand a chance. Warpath is just 449 00:42:31,688 --> 00:42:40,212 too strong and too much of a badass and too cool and too powerful and too awesome and too 450 00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:43,573 just good in general. Holy shit, why don't you marry him already? 451 00:42:47,002 --> 00:42:51,785 Nah, I'm good. You say Warpath is cool, but like, I just remember him getting his ass beat 452 00:42:51,825 --> 00:42:59,250 in Days of Future Past. Yeah, by those future Sentinels. Like a lame ass. Black Houndour 453 00:42:59,270 --> 00:43:03,232 would not have gone down that quick. Yeah, you probably would have flown away or something. 454 00:43:03,672 --> 00:43:09,236 Like a coward. Bitch, you don't know his life. I mean, except for the fact that you literally 455 00:43:09,256 --> 00:43:14,478 just told me his life, so there you go. Dang it. 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Our next episode 463 00:43:52,754 --> 00:43:58,477 is going to go back to the nostalgic era of the mid-90s superhero cartoons. We recently 464 00:43:58,517 --> 00:44:03,319 just got done reviewing X-Men 97, which brought us back to the old X-Men the animated series. 465 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,786 Now we're going to journey back on the DC side of things with a review of Batman Mask of the 466 00:44:08,826 --> 00:44:13,088 Phantasm. Yeah, it's a great movie, I never had the opportunity to see it in theaters, 467 00:44:13,348 --> 00:44:17,450 but I'm glad we're finally getting around to reviewing it. It's a classic. But that does 468 00:44:17,470 --> 00:44:21,732 it for this episode, we want to give a big thanks to our executive producers Ken Johnson, Jon 469 00:44:21,752 --> 00:44:26,515 Storowski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcombe, Miggy Matangian, Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel 470 00:44:26,555 --> 00:44:33,319 Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Austin Wiselowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho. Adam Spies, Andrew 471 00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:39,126 Shunk, Dean Molesky, and Devin Davis for helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk to you 472 00:44:39,146 --> 00:44:42,190 guys next week. Up up and away, true believers.