1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,963 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,838 --> 00:00:30,120 dynamic duel podcast weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority 3 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,442 between marvel and dc by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations i'm johnny 4 00:00:35,462 --> 00:00:41,645 dc and i'm his twin brother marvelous joe and in this episode we are doing a duel between 5 00:00:41,685 --> 00:00:47,927 the outsider character halo and marvel's power pack and i know what you guys may be thinking 6 00:00:47,987 --> 00:00:52,929 like did these guys jump the shark these characters are not very well known even among dc and marvel 7 00:00:52,969 --> 00:00:57,789 fans To which we gotta say, yes this episode is very relevant because Halo is a member of 8 00:00:57,829 --> 00:01:02,593 the Outsiders. And we're gonna do a team duel with the Outsiders in a few months against 9 00:01:02,813 --> 00:01:07,297 X-Force. So we gotta get through this power pack. While they haven't had the biggest presence 10 00:01:07,317 --> 00:01:12,302 in Marvel over the years, they have had some amazing stories. And you guys should definitely 11 00:01:12,462 --> 00:01:16,425 stick around to listen to those as we break down the characters backstories, enter their 12 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:20,769 stats, and run simulations to see who'd win in a fight. I mean you say we gotta get through 13 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:24,940 this! Like, these characters are interesting. I actually think the characters are very interesting. 14 00:01:25,060 --> 00:01:29,302 That's what I'm saying. I feel like maybe because they're not popular, they may not seem interesting, 15 00:01:29,362 --> 00:01:34,125 but actually I was incredibly fascinated by the stories of the Power Pack as I was going 16 00:01:34,145 --> 00:01:38,347 through their backstory. Same. Yeah, I can't wait to go over Halo's backstory. But before 17 00:01:38,367 --> 00:01:41,749 that, we're going to break down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there 18 00:01:41,769 --> 00:01:47,793 was just one major news item, and that was the teaser trailer number two for the Mac series, 19 00:01:47,953 --> 00:01:52,047 The Penguin. As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free 20 00:01:52,067 --> 00:01:56,614 to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Guys, our artificially 21 00:01:56,654 --> 00:02:03,370 intelligent duel simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. Why 22 00:02:03,430 --> 00:02:07,833 hello there, do you want even more from this podcast? Then become a part of the dynamic 23 00:02:07,873 --> 00:02:12,918 duel community on Patreon, where you can choose from three tiers. The dynamic two-oh tier gives 24 00:02:12,958 --> 00:02:17,862 you access to our Discord chat server. 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Guys be sure to tune into the other shows in the DynaMic 31 00:02:51,115 --> 00:02:55,457 Podcast Network this week including Max Destruction, which pits your favorite action heroes from 32 00:02:55,497 --> 00:03:00,439 film and television against each other. This week, hosts Ken and Scotty are pitting Renard 33 00:03:00,499 --> 00:03:06,302 from The World Is Not Enough, a James Bond movie, against Ajax from Deadpool, the first Deadpool 34 00:03:06,322 --> 00:03:11,465 film. On the Send Your World podcast hosts Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite 35 00:03:11,585 --> 00:03:16,955 anime and manga characters. The show is currently on a season hiatus, so this is the perfect 36 00:03:16,995 --> 00:03:22,956 time for you anime and manga fans to catch up on Send Your World's 40 episode library. And 37 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:26,978 on the Console Combat Podcast, hosts John and Dean find out who would win in fights between 38 00:03:27,018 --> 00:03:31,379 popular video game characters. And yesterday's episode, which you can go listen to after this, 39 00:03:31,499 --> 00:03:36,400 they found out who would win in a battle between Albert Wesker from Resident Evil against Edward 40 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,838 Richtofen, I have no idea how to pronounce it, from Call of Duty. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com 41 00:03:42,338 --> 00:03:46,780 or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast 42 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:54,062 Network. Both out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to 43 00:03:54,082 --> 00:03:59,504 give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram 44 00:03:59,524 --> 00:04:04,165 for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked 45 00:04:04,185 --> 00:04:08,795 you guys... Who do you want to direct the Marvel Studios Blade movie and why? And that's coming 46 00:04:08,835 --> 00:04:13,117 off the news that Yann Dimanche, the director that was most recently associated with the 47 00:04:13,157 --> 00:04:18,979 film, had left the project. We got some solid answers here. Uh, I totally fucked up. This 48 00:04:18,999 --> 00:04:23,941 is the first time we've ever done this in this podcast's eight-year history. I accidentally 49 00:04:23,981 --> 00:04:29,083 deleted one of the voicemails that was sent in by a listener. I am truly sorry if we don't 50 00:04:29,103 --> 00:04:33,585 get to your voicemail within this segment. Don't let it deter you from sending voicemails in 51 00:04:33,605 --> 00:04:38,283 the future. but whoever left it didn't leave their name on the form. So we weren't able 52 00:04:38,303 --> 00:04:42,964 to reach out to them. I just want everyone to know that fuck up was Joseph's to own. I had 53 00:04:43,084 --> 00:04:51,626 no part of it. And I am embarrassed for him and by him. And you can be assured that there 54 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:55,908 will be a punishment for this. That's fair, that's fair. But we have three honorable mentions 55 00:04:55,948 --> 00:05:01,589 to get through as well as a no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Matt Allen, 56 00:05:01,929 --> 00:05:06,094 who said. Hey guys, this is Matt from Texas. The director I think that would be best for 57 00:05:06,174 --> 00:05:11,596 the Blade movie should be Sam Raimi. He can do the horror genre, he can do a little bit 58 00:05:11,636 --> 00:05:18,518 of comedy. I mean, shoot, we saw it in the Multiverse of Madness, the Spider-Man trilogy, the original 59 00:05:18,538 --> 00:05:24,499 trilogy of Spider-Man anyways. And I just think he would be the best one for it to be able 60 00:05:24,539 --> 00:05:32,201 to get that level of fear and humor in there. Now I'll be honest, I wasn't the biggest fan 61 00:05:32,622 --> 00:05:37,886 of Doctor Strange 2, but that had nothing to do with the direction. I think Sam Raimi is 62 00:05:37,926 --> 00:05:44,250 a fantastic director, as evidenced by his Spider-Man films and other genre work. We know that he 63 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:49,414 could work within the Marvel studio system, and that's huge. I think he would be fantastic 64 00:05:49,434 --> 00:05:53,777 for the Blade movie. I mean, if you look at his evil dead work in addition, you know that 65 00:05:53,817 --> 00:05:59,021 he also has, obviously, an affinity for horror. And I think, you know, Blade is more overtly... 66 00:05:59,674 --> 00:06:04,219 Horror comic series as opposed to something like Doctor Strange, which can have some horror 67 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,545 elements in it But it's mostly about magic and mysticism, right? Yeah, but like even with 68 00:06:09,585 --> 00:06:14,751 Doctor Strange to like I would say that's the most Horr-esque film that the MCU has put out 69 00:06:14,811 --> 00:06:18,996 to date other than werewolf by night, which is not a film But you know, it was a special 70 00:06:19,036 --> 00:06:23,959 presentation on Disney Plus I guess the reason why Sam Raimi didn't get the no prize win here 71 00:06:23,979 --> 00:06:29,422 is because of how Matt Allen described the comedy leanings of the director. And yes, Sam Raimi 72 00:06:29,462 --> 00:06:33,844 has injected some overt comedy into his films like look at Evil Dead 2 and stuff like that. 73 00:06:34,184 --> 00:06:39,206 I'm not necessarily sure that Blade needs that. I think Blade should be a mostly grounded affair 74 00:06:39,246 --> 00:06:43,428 just the way I would like to see it. I think it should take itself very seriously and be 75 00:06:43,468 --> 00:06:48,962 not too whimsical, you know? Or tongue in cheek. Although to be fair... That is Marvel's brand. 76 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:53,423 When they tried to deviate from that, we got the Eternals. That's true, but I didn't mind 77 00:06:53,443 --> 00:06:57,304 the Eternals. I don't mind Marvel deviating from their brand in order to keep things from 78 00:06:57,524 --> 00:07:01,546 feeling too stale. I like the idea of Marvel mixing things up, kind of like how they did 79 00:07:01,566 --> 00:07:06,647 with Werewolf by Night. OK, got you. But great answer, Matt Allen. Fantastic. Our next honorable 80 00:07:06,707 --> 00:07:12,629 mention goes to John Storosky. Who said? What's going on? It's John Storosky. My first choice 81 00:07:12,709 --> 00:07:17,855 would be Quentin Tarantino to direct. new Blade movie, however, because that is obviously never 82 00:07:17,895 --> 00:07:24,079 going to happen, I'm going to go with Peter Jackson. He has the directing chops to make 83 00:07:24,099 --> 00:07:29,322 a cinematic masterpiece, and on top of that, he's got the swordsplay with the Lord of the 84 00:07:29,362 --> 00:07:34,405 Rings. He's got all the action. I think he would be a perfect director for the Blade film, so 85 00:07:34,445 --> 00:07:41,128 let's get Peter Jackson in there. Yeah, Peter Jackson, you know, he is one of the greatest 86 00:07:41,148 --> 00:07:45,291 directors of all time, having directed one of the greatest franchises, the Lord of the Rings 87 00:07:45,331 --> 00:07:50,254 movies that were for the most part expected to be unfilmable just because of the dense 88 00:07:50,294 --> 00:07:54,557 nature of those stories. But he did it. You know, as far as I'm concerned, Peter Jackson 89 00:07:54,577 --> 00:07:59,341 can do anything. My big question with him though is would he want to direct a Blade movie? Well, 90 00:07:59,421 --> 00:08:04,484 maybe. I mean, he does have a background in the horror genre and he's never done vampires 91 00:08:04,524 --> 00:08:08,740 before. I have to imagine. There might be a little bit of interest there, at least I would 92 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:13,905 hope there would be, because Peter Jackson is a master of world building. And one of my biggest 93 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:20,771 fears about this Blade movie is introducing vampires into the MCU I think can get a little 94 00:08:20,912 --> 00:08:25,336 sticky. But if you have a director as talented as Peter Jackson behind the wheel on that, 95 00:08:25,656 --> 00:08:30,120 I think there's no way you could go wrong. Would he ever do it? I doubt it, but that would be 96 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,992 amazing. Yeah. Sometimes I wonder why Peter Jackson hasn't gotten more work ever since 97 00:08:35,012 --> 00:08:38,615 the Lord of the Rings movies and the Hobbit movies that he's directed. And sometimes I 98 00:08:38,655 --> 00:08:43,599 wonder if it's because he did such a good job at making those movies that most studios just 99 00:08:43,619 --> 00:08:47,463 can't afford to hire him. They're like, oh yeah, we'd love to have Peter Jackson on this project. 100 00:08:47,743 --> 00:08:51,446 And he'd be like, fuck you, give me $10 billion. And they'd be like, no way. And he'd be like, 101 00:08:51,746 --> 00:08:55,970 I directed Lord of the Rings. Come on. You know, you're like, bitch, I didn't need to do your 102 00:08:56,010 --> 00:09:02,602 movie anyway. Did you ever see Dead Alive by Peter Jackson? No, I saw the Frighteners though. 103 00:09:02,702 --> 00:09:06,083 I love the Frighteners. Yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one Great answer john 104 00:09:06,103 --> 00:09:11,824 starosky our next honorable mention goes to travis herndon who said what's up dynamic dudes 105 00:09:11,864 --> 00:09:20,647 travis here Shout out to my twin. So my picks would have to be I think those two would be 106 00:09:20,707 --> 00:09:26,889 pretty good to direct blade I mean they doing a new bad boys movie and judging from the trailer 107 00:09:26,929 --> 00:09:32,155 and everything It looks fucking insane and it easily can fit that sort of blade action scene, 108 00:09:32,175 --> 00:09:36,919 especially they're trying to go like a Wesley Snipes style action. So yeah, those are my 109 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:43,144 pick for Blade. I'll be honest, I have not seen any of the movies that Bilal Fallah and Adil 110 00:09:43,164 --> 00:09:48,528 Al-Arbi have directed, but that doesn't stop them from being involved in interesting projects, 111 00:09:48,608 --> 00:09:52,952 including the recent backroll movie that was unfortunately canned. They directed some of 112 00:09:52,972 --> 00:09:57,095 the episodes of Ms. Marvel, which was a fantastic television show, and they're even rumored to 113 00:09:57,136 --> 00:10:01,894 be in the running for the upcoming Spider-Man movie. Yeah, honestly, out of all of the choices 114 00:10:01,974 --> 00:10:06,155 we have here, including the no prize winner that we'll get to, I think this is the most 115 00:10:06,395 --> 00:10:11,617 plausible answer. Not only do I think that they would be psyched to do a blade film, they would 116 00:10:11,677 --> 00:10:16,738 also be able to match the tone that I think a lot of us are looking for in that movie. 117 00:10:16,778 --> 00:10:20,199 For sure. Yeah. All these honorable mentions are actually great answers. We want to give 118 00:10:20,219 --> 00:10:25,600 a big shout out to Cyrus Moore and to whoever's answer I deleted. I'm still sorry about that. 119 00:10:25,781 --> 00:10:32,454 But the winner of this week's no prize is Brandon Estegard. Who said? I think that Taika Waititi 120 00:10:33,214 --> 00:10:38,056 should be the only director who isn't allowed to make this movie. Instead they should get 121 00:10:38,096 --> 00:10:42,717 Fede Alvarez because he has a great background in horror, including the Evil Dead 2013 movie 122 00:10:43,137 --> 00:10:47,238 Alien Romulus, and he's even directed a couple episodes of From Dust Till Dawn, which was 123 00:10:47,258 --> 00:10:52,040 a vampire series. And I just personally think he's the best choice for anything horror at 124 00:10:52,060 --> 00:10:57,541 the moment. Yeah, Fede Alvarez has really made a name for himself ever since his Evil Dead 125 00:10:57,581 --> 00:11:02,155 remake back in 2018. 13 I want to say, but he also directed Don't Breathe, which I thought 126 00:11:02,175 --> 00:11:07,777 was a fantastic movie, and Alien Romulus coming out soon looks really, really good. So yeah, 127 00:11:08,018 --> 00:11:11,999 I think he's probably one of the best names in the horror genre right now. He's just doing 128 00:11:12,179 --> 00:11:16,581 really interesting things behind the camera and I think he's kind of an auteur and I would 129 00:11:16,601 --> 00:11:20,543 love to have him behind the Blade movie. I also think it's attainable. I don't know if it's 130 00:11:20,563 --> 00:11:26,766 attainable. I think he might be a little too over the top for Marvel's brand. Not saying 131 00:11:26,806 --> 00:11:33,169 that he couldn't adjust his tastes to fit the Marvel brand. I just think that's less likely 132 00:11:33,289 --> 00:11:37,692 than, you know, some of the other directors that we've talked about. That said, I love 133 00:11:37,732 --> 00:11:43,335 Fede Alvarez for this choice, because the Blade movie I personally want to see would be the 134 00:11:43,355 --> 00:11:48,758 kind of Blade movie that Fede Alvarez would direct. Absolutely. That would just make my 135 00:11:48,778 --> 00:11:53,380 whole year if I heard the news that he got the job. If they announced that he was the director, 136 00:11:53,540 --> 00:11:57,010 like that would make me do a double take. I would feel threatened. that because I'd be 137 00:11:57,030 --> 00:12:02,537 like holy shit that's like too amazing. Congrats to Brandon Estergaard for winning this week's 138 00:12:02,577 --> 00:12:06,842 no prize if you the listener want a shot at winning your own no prize. Stay tuned to later 139 00:12:06,882 --> 00:12:11,367 on in this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, 140 00:12:12,088 --> 00:12:12,849 on to the news! 141 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:23,493 Okay, so this past week we got our second official teaser for the Penguin series. I don't know 142 00:12:23,513 --> 00:12:27,115 why they're calling it a teaser. It's over two minutes long. It's a trailer. It's our first 143 00:12:27,255 --> 00:12:34,579 big trailer for the series and it is so damn good. It perfectly matches the vibe of the 144 00:12:34,599 --> 00:12:41,423 Batman film, which again still reminds me of that David Fincher-esque noir kind of vibe. 145 00:12:41,543 --> 00:12:46,982 But also, and I thought of this as I was watching this trailer specifically, of Batman Year One. 146 00:12:47,162 --> 00:12:52,324 It's the world of mobsters and corruption that I've always wanted to see Batman in and it 147 00:12:52,344 --> 00:12:57,825 looks like the penguin is going to nail that tone to a T. The trailer was so good I completely 148 00:12:57,865 --> 00:13:03,047 forgot about my fat mobster joke from the previous teaser. Oh gosh. So I'm not even going to bring 149 00:13:03,087 --> 00:13:07,688 it up. The fact that I called him fat mobstered before. Do you still think that the suit looks 150 00:13:07,748 --> 00:13:11,989 really fake? Not in any of the shots in this trailer, no. I think they did a good job of 151 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:15,899 hiding the fat suit here. Good, they probably did that just for you, so they didn't have 152 00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:21,565 to hear your shit. No, but I'm glad to hear that you liked it. Right off the bat, I got 153 00:13:21,605 --> 00:13:26,790 super excited because it starts off with footage from the end of the Batman when Gotham City 154 00:13:26,890 --> 00:13:33,576 gets flooded. It looks like this show actually takes place one week after the Batman film 155 00:13:33,737 --> 00:13:40,006 ends. And in a way it's kind of setting up like this almost no man's land kind of. esque story 156 00:13:40,366 --> 00:13:45,189 in that Gotham city is in shambles and there's a power vacuum and the penguin is going to 157 00:13:45,209 --> 00:13:50,872 try and take advantage of that while the city is in chaos. Which is a phenomenal premise, 158 00:13:50,952 --> 00:13:57,395 I love that. Early on we get to see the penguin speaking with Salvatore Moroni in jail explaining 159 00:13:57,435 --> 00:14:01,298 how he basically wants to take over Gotham's criminal underworld but it looks like he's 160 00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:07,001 going to be facing competition from Carmine Falcone's children, specifically Alberto and 161 00:14:07,241 --> 00:14:13,184 Sophia, which If you know anything about like the Long Halloween and Jeff Loeb's takes on 162 00:14:13,224 --> 00:14:17,767 those characters specifically, I think we're in for a real treat with this show and it just 163 00:14:17,787 --> 00:14:22,890 gets me so pumped to see it. Yeah, it looks like something out of, you know, The Sopranos 164 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:27,092 or something directed by Francis Ford Coppola. It looks really fucking good. I thought it 165 00:14:27,112 --> 00:14:33,216 was weird to see the guy who played Alex Wilder in the Runaways television series as the Penguin's 166 00:14:33,236 --> 00:14:36,718 like right-hand man. I don't know what character he's playing in the show. Yeah, I guess the 167 00:14:36,738 --> 00:14:41,280 character's name is Victor Aguilar. I think he's his driver. But I was actually excited 168 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:46,143 to see how many explosions and machine guns there were in the show as well. It kind of 169 00:14:46,163 --> 00:14:51,626 gives that elevated, fantastical, kind of Gotham City atmosphere that could go a little bit 170 00:14:51,866 --> 00:14:57,069 more extra than something like the Sopranos. I mean, the world of Sopranos, they don't have 171 00:14:57,129 --> 00:15:01,812 overt supervillains like they do here. They don't have some guy in an asylum whose face 172 00:15:01,832 --> 00:15:10,728 is all scarred up like the Joker's. Or a guy named The Riddler going, No, no, no. Yeah, 173 00:15:10,968 --> 00:15:14,990 I'm wondering if those characters are going to show up in this show because apparently 174 00:15:15,050 --> 00:15:20,492 Sophia Falcone was in Arkham Asylum for a time. So I don't know. Maybe we'll actually get to 175 00:15:20,552 --> 00:15:25,054 see the asylum or a little bit more of it. Speaking of that, is it weird to have a Batman show 176 00:15:25,074 --> 00:15:30,037 without the Batman in it? Like you'd have to think that all the chaos that the penguin is 177 00:15:30,057 --> 00:15:34,540 going to be causing among the crime families. that at some point you'd have the Dark Knight 178 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,885 show up to shut things down. So this is just a rumor, but apparently Robert Pattinson does 179 00:15:39,925 --> 00:15:44,789 make a cameo in the series. Oh, well, yeah, it's pretty cool. Well, now I'm going to be 180 00:15:44,829 --> 00:15:51,075 expecting that and I will be severely let down if that does not happen, dude. Same. So this 181 00:15:51,115 --> 00:15:52,657 brings us to our question of the week. 182 00:15:57,090 --> 00:16:03,633 Besides Batman, what character do you most hope to see in the Penguin Max series, and why? 183 00:16:04,173 --> 00:16:08,396 Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom 184 00:16:08,416 --> 00:16:12,978 right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message 185 00:16:12,998 --> 00:16:16,940 could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on 186 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,063 the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer, and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize 187 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:26,845 that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before June 29th. 188 00:16:34,658 --> 00:16:38,463 That does it for all the news for this episode. Now let's move on to the main event, where 189 00:16:38,503 --> 00:16:44,812 we find out who will win in a match up between the Outsiders character of Halo and Marvel's 190 00:16:44,992 --> 00:16:45,653 Power Pack. 191 00:17:01,742 --> 00:17:06,545 Alright, Halo vs Power Pack. Of course, as we mentioned earlier, this episode is in lead 192 00:17:06,605 --> 00:17:13,471 up to our next team duel, which will be the Outsiders vs X-Force, and Halo is a founding 193 00:17:13,531 --> 00:17:19,095 member of the Outsiders team. So we knew we needed to get her into a duel episode sooner 194 00:17:19,136 --> 00:17:24,820 rather than later. Now, years ago, I think, maybe it was just one year ago, one of our 195 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,605 executive producers, Miggy Meth and Gian, suggested Halo vs Power Pack, and this was recently brought 196 00:17:30,725 --> 00:17:36,280 up again. by Devin Davis who pitched the same idea and that's what we ended up going with. 197 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,403 Primarily because all of these characters are insanely versatile. Yeah, that was the big 198 00:17:41,443 --> 00:17:45,586 thing. There were several options available for us to pit against Halo, including Dazzler 199 00:17:45,646 --> 00:17:50,489 or Jubilee or something like that, but the versatility of Halo is the thing that gets me. She has 200 00:17:50,529 --> 00:17:54,531 like a lot of different powers within her power set. And that's basically her whole thing. 201 00:17:54,551 --> 00:17:57,473 You know, she changes the color of the light that she produces and all of a sudden she has 202 00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,787 an entirely different... power set. And so I knew that I needed someone that was a little 203 00:18:00,807 --> 00:18:05,331 bit more versatile than someone like Jubilee who just shoots fireworks or someone like Dazzler 204 00:18:05,371 --> 00:18:09,755 who can convert sound to light, which is powerful, but not in the way that I needed to be. I need 205 00:18:09,775 --> 00:18:15,400 to be adaptable. I need to be versatile. And I think the Power Pack kids are just that. 206 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,163 You know, they got a cool set of powers amongst themselves. There have been plenty of times 207 00:18:19,323 --> 00:18:22,866 within their stories that they've actually swapped powers and stuff like that. But there was also 208 00:18:22,886 --> 00:18:28,810 a time when Alex, the oldest of the Power Pack kids acquired all their powers. And so we knew 209 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:34,992 that was our in for how to approach this match. It's essentially going to be Halo versus power 210 00:18:35,032 --> 00:18:39,473 house, which is what Alex power called himself when he had all of his family's powers. Oh, 211 00:18:39,493 --> 00:18:44,094 interesting. I didn't know that. Another reason I like this matchup is because aesthetically, 212 00:18:44,395 --> 00:18:48,716 they share a lot of similarities. Like they wear these black costumes with like strands 213 00:18:48,736 --> 00:18:54,117 of color. I thought it just fit. The power packs seem cool to me, even though they're like snot 214 00:18:54,137 --> 00:18:59,469 nose kids. But from what I know of their powers, they're kind of like the Fantastic Four upgraded, 215 00:18:59,590 --> 00:19:04,754 in my opinion. Really? Interesting. Okay. I don't disagree. I think their power set is 216 00:19:04,774 --> 00:19:08,177 a little bit cooler, but you know, we'll get into that in the character breakdown. Before 217 00:19:08,217 --> 00:19:12,782 that, to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator, 218 00:19:12,902 --> 00:19:18,767 Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our 219 00:19:18,807 --> 00:19:24,058 duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants 220 00:19:24,098 --> 00:19:30,140 is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation 221 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:35,901 is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomise 222 00:19:35,921 --> 00:19:40,363 the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can 223 00:19:40,403 --> 00:19:45,264 occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from 224 00:19:45,304 --> 00:19:47,925 which the DC characters statistics are extrapolated. 225 00:19:51,382 --> 00:19:56,504 damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate 226 00:19:56,545 --> 00:20:01,928 simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. 227 00:20:02,368 --> 00:20:06,302 The contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor. as they have a higher 228 00:20:06,342 --> 00:20:11,566 probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% 229 00:20:12,187 --> 00:20:16,350 of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to 230 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:20,893 defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that 231 00:20:20,913 --> 00:20:25,837 have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity 232 00:20:25,897 --> 00:20:31,241 or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination 233 00:20:31,281 --> 00:20:36,263 of the winner. Thanks, AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, we'd like to break down 234 00:20:36,343 --> 00:20:40,685 each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one 235 00:20:40,725 --> 00:20:45,547 of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe it is my turn to go 236 00:20:45,587 --> 00:20:49,549 first with the Marvel characters backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you all about Power 237 00:20:49,589 --> 00:20:56,852 Pack. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, existed a planet known as Chimelia, where 238 00:20:56,872 --> 00:21:02,923 an advanced race of beings, Chimelians, developed a means of energy production via a process 239 00:21:02,943 --> 00:21:08,066 that converted matter into antimatter. Though their technological pursuits were well-meaning, 240 00:21:08,306 --> 00:21:13,729 their antimatter converter resulted in a cataclysmic chain of energy that completely destroyed their 241 00:21:13,769 --> 00:21:18,712 home planet. Fortunately, some of the chameleons were able to survive the disaster on a large 242 00:21:18,812 --> 00:21:24,375 space station that subsequently became their new home. One of these chameleons, named Alefire 243 00:21:24,435 --> 00:21:30,154 Whitemane, had tapped into Earth's transmissions in order to study humanity. and learned that 244 00:21:30,474 --> 00:21:36,377 one of Earth's scientists named Dr. James Power had developed similar antimatter converter 245 00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:42,141 technology in his pursuit of developing a source of clean energy. Knowing that the device would 246 00:21:42,181 --> 00:21:47,543 destroy Earth if used, White Mane decided he had to intervene. He sent a transmission to 247 00:21:47,563 --> 00:21:52,046 the Chimelians that he was leaving for Earth in his starship. However, that transmission 248 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:58,169 was intercepted by a war-mongering race of aliens called the Snarks, who also decided to head 249 00:21:58,189 --> 00:22:04,714 to Earth. and steal the antimatter converter for themselves. Meanwhile, on Earth lived Alex, 250 00:22:04,914 --> 00:22:10,719 Julie, Jack, and Katie, the four children of Dr. James and Margaret Power. The night before 251 00:22:10,739 --> 00:22:15,862 the converter was to be tested, the youngest child, Katie, looked into the night sky and 252 00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:21,146 witnessed what appeared to be a meteor shower, but was in reality an aerial battle between 253 00:22:21,226 --> 00:22:26,418 White Mane and the Snarks who managed to shoot White Mane's spaceship down. When Katie told 254 00:22:26,458 --> 00:22:30,882 her siblings of what she had seen in the sky, the group went outside to find the crashed 255 00:22:30,902 --> 00:22:36,166 Chameleon starship. Shocked, they went to alert their parents, but found them being abducted 256 00:22:36,307 --> 00:22:40,930 by the Snarks. The Snarks would have killed the children, but they were saved by White 257 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:46,976 Mane, who was badly wounded, and the Snarks escaped with the power of parents. Dying, the 258 00:22:47,076 --> 00:22:51,399 alien explained to the kids the situation, that their father's device had the potential to 259 00:22:51,439 --> 00:22:56,774 destroy the planet, and with his final breath, he passed on his abilities to control gravity, 260 00:22:57,234 --> 00:23:03,736 acceleration, mass, and energy to Alex, Julie, Jack, and Katie respectively. Deciding to rescue 261 00:23:03,756 --> 00:23:09,718 their parents, the four chose the superhero names Zero-G, Lightspeed, Massmaster, and Energizer 262 00:23:10,118 --> 00:23:15,159 and called themselves the Power Pack. They destroyed their father's antimatter converter, then used 263 00:23:15,219 --> 00:23:19,600 White Mean's Starship to rescue their parents from the Snarks, whose interrogation methods 264 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:25,134 of Dr. James Power had accidentally destroyed his memory of his device. The family moved 265 00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:29,996 to New York, where the Power Pack kids ran into other heroes in their adventures against villains 266 00:23:30,016 --> 00:23:34,598 such as their father's former co-worker, who donned a battle suit to become the Boogie Man, 267 00:23:35,219 --> 00:23:40,861 and Jackal, a high-ranking official in the Snark World Empire. They met Spider-Man, Cloak and 268 00:23:40,881 --> 00:23:45,724 Dagger, and the Fantastic Four, the latter of whom grew close with the Power Pack due to 269 00:23:45,764 --> 00:23:50,738 Mr. Fantastic and Woman's son Franklin being around the same age. In fact, at one 270 00:23:50,778 --> 00:23:56,601 point Franklin joined the Power Pack as a fifth member named Tattletail. Later, the Power Kids 271 00:23:56,621 --> 00:24:00,944 were abducted and taken to Snark World where their powers were taken from them. However, 272 00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:05,866 Franklin rescued them using White Manes old starship. When their powers were returned, 273 00:24:06,347 --> 00:24:11,330 they were redistributed so that Alex now had energy projection, Julie had mass control, 274 00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:16,172 Jack had gravity manipulation, and Katie had flight and speed. You can learn more about 275 00:24:16,252 --> 00:24:21,063 Franklin Richards and the Fantastic Four in their duel against the Justice Society. The 276 00:24:21,103 --> 00:24:25,825 Power Pack frequently partnered with the X-Men, fighting against Sabertooth and the Marauders, 277 00:24:26,225 --> 00:24:31,527 the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the Master Mold Sentinel, and the Goblin Queen, the latter 278 00:24:31,567 --> 00:24:36,949 fight teaming up with the New Mutants. Eventually, Power Pack got the chance to visit the Chimeleon 279 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:42,171 Space Station, where they saved the ancient race from Queen Maraud of the Snarks, during 280 00:24:42,191 --> 00:24:47,414 which time they reverted to their original power sets. In the aftermath of that fight, The Power 281 00:24:47,454 --> 00:24:52,595 Pack helped the Chameleons finally move off their space station onto a new, lush planet 282 00:24:52,635 --> 00:24:58,657 called Chameleon 3, where they decided to reject excessive technology as a species. Back on 283 00:24:58,717 --> 00:25:04,679 Earth, Alex, driven by a desire to become a more independent and impactful superhero, stole 284 00:25:04,699 --> 00:25:09,820 his siblings' abilities using Chameleon tech and renamed himself Powerhouse, joining the 285 00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:14,561 teenage superhero team called the New Warriors. Though his actions angered his brother and 286 00:25:14,581 --> 00:25:20,208 sisters, Alex rationalized his actions by claiming that it was dangerous for children to be superheroes. 287 00:25:20,728 --> 00:25:25,711 But eventually, he apologized and returned his siblings' powers. The power pack briefly split 288 00:25:25,771 --> 00:25:31,694 up as Alex joined Mr. Fantastic's future foundation, Think Tank of Scientific Minds. Julie pursued 289 00:25:31,734 --> 00:25:36,997 an acting career in Los Angeles where she encountered the Runaways, and later joined the Future Foundation 290 00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:42,881 alongside Alex. Jack opted to tend to their sick mother, and Katie declined an invitation 291 00:25:42,921 --> 00:25:48,772 to join the Great They all later reunited as the Power Pack, however, to team up with Moon 292 00:25:48,812 --> 00:25:53,454 Girl and Devil Dinosaur, whom you can learn more about in their duel against Dorothy Spinner 293 00:25:53,614 --> 00:26:00,598 from Doom Patrol. That's their backstory. Powers-wise, the four members of Power Pack, Zero G, Light 294 00:26:00,638 --> 00:26:06,121 Speed, Mask Master, and Energizer, have repeatedly swapped abilities and code names throughout 295 00:26:06,161 --> 00:26:11,384 the years. For the purposes of simplifying the simulations and our speculation, I'm going 296 00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:16,431 to treat the Power Pack as one person. Alex power during his time as Powerhouse when he 297 00:26:16,471 --> 00:26:22,514 had all of his siblings powers. This includes Zero-G's Gravity Control, allowing Powerhouse 298 00:26:22,554 --> 00:26:28,117 to negate or increase the effect of gravity on himself and his close proximity and therefore 299 00:26:28,177 --> 00:26:34,061 able to lift any object no matter how heavy. He also has his sister Julie's Lightspeed Acceleration 300 00:26:34,101 --> 00:26:39,204 powers, allowing him to fly at supersonic speeds and teleport. He also has his brother Jack's 301 00:26:39,284 --> 00:26:45,071 Mass Master powers, which allow him to turn his body in super durable, and even shrink 302 00:26:45,091 --> 00:26:50,636 his size to about 8 inches tall. Powerhouse also has his sister Katie's Energizer powers, 303 00:26:51,016 --> 00:26:55,920 which allow him to disintegrate and convert any solid matter he touches into energy that 304 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,485 he can absorb and release as an energy blast. This also lets him absorb other forms of energy 305 00:27:01,585 --> 00:27:06,729 that he can then redirect. Though Powerhouse is uniquely intelligent among his siblings 306 00:27:06,769 --> 00:27:10,813 as a former member of the Future Foundation, all the Power Pack kids are somewhat gifted 307 00:27:10,853 --> 00:27:15,271 intellectually, And their costumes, made of unstable molecules and chameleon technology, 308 00:27:15,691 --> 00:27:20,473 have pocket dimensions within their pockets that let them carry a significant amount of 309 00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:25,095 stuff. Like what kind of stuff? A whole bunch of stuff, man. You don't even know. Actually, 310 00:27:25,155 --> 00:27:30,877 I think that particular feature is what influenced me to claim that Reed Richards probably had 311 00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:35,519 a pocket dimension in his unstable molecules costume in his duel against Plastic Man. I 312 00:27:35,539 --> 00:27:39,181 knew I had read that somewhere. Like somebody had a pocket dimension in their pocket. It 313 00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:45,977 was these guys. Okay. So just to double check, light speed does not move at light speed. Well, 314 00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:51,962 she could teleport, so kinda. Hmm. Okay. But when she flies, it's usually defined as supersonic. 315 00:27:52,342 --> 00:27:57,527 I don't think she can actually fly at light speeds. Okay. Not gonna lie, that's a pretty 316 00:27:57,607 --> 00:28:04,633 crazy power set. Luckily, though, Halo also has a fairly robust power set, so let me get 317 00:28:04,653 --> 00:28:10,457 into her backstory. At the beginning of time, when the universe first exploded into existence, 318 00:28:10,734 --> 00:28:16,661 from an energy known as the Source, some of that energy coalesced into sentient orbs of 319 00:28:16,741 --> 00:28:23,549 light known as oracles. The oracles, as beings of energy that existed outside the physical 320 00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:28,671 world, were created by lived for thousands of years and multiplied, all the while observing 321 00:28:28,712 --> 00:28:33,574 the formation of the universe over billions of years. While many oracles were attracted 322 00:28:33,614 --> 00:28:39,477 to stellar phenomena, observing cosmic-level events from a distance, one oracle, however, 323 00:28:39,517 --> 00:28:45,159 became more interested in organic sentient beings and wondered what it would be like to experience 324 00:28:45,199 --> 00:28:52,002 sensations and emotions such as theirs. Eventually, this oracle discovered Earth, and while investigating 325 00:28:54,504 --> 00:29:00,518 young woman in the country of Markovia during a violent revolt against its monarchy. Moved 326 00:29:00,558 --> 00:29:05,603 by the tragedy and attempting to reach out to the young woman, The Oracle accidentally entered 327 00:29:05,643 --> 00:29:11,007 the physical world and became trapped within her body, bringing that young woman back to 328 00:29:11,067 --> 00:29:16,892 life, though she awoke with no memory of her former life on Earth or as an Oracle. Seeing 329 00:29:16,952 --> 00:29:22,337 Batman upon her resurrection and being frightened, she discovered that she had light-based superhuman 330 00:29:22,377 --> 00:29:27,641 abilities. Nonetheless, she joined Batman and helped him and the other heroes stop Baron 331 00:29:27,681 --> 00:29:33,338 Bedlam from overthrowing the Markovian monarchy, of which the hero Geoforce was a part. whom 332 00:29:33,378 --> 00:29:38,840 you can learn more about in last week's Geoforce vs Quake duel episode. Batman recruited the 333 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,663 heroes involved in protecting Markovia to form a new Gotham City-based super team named the 334 00:29:44,763 --> 00:29:50,725 Outsiders. Still suffering from amnesia, though, Halo adopted the civilian identity of Gabriel 335 00:29:50,825 --> 00:29:55,831 Doe. and she lived in the penthouse above the Wayne Foundation building with the hero Kitana, 336 00:29:56,192 --> 00:30:01,374 who became Halo's legal guardian, and whom you can learn more about in our Kitana vs. Elektra 337 00:30:01,414 --> 00:30:06,817 duel episode. With help from Batman's detective skills, Halo eventually learned she was born 338 00:30:06,837 --> 00:30:12,559 with the name Violet Harper, from Arlington, Missouri. She was a smart kid, but rebellious, 339 00:30:12,659 --> 00:30:18,022 and as a teenager, she and her boyfriend stole a drug formula from the mobster Tobias Whale. 340 00:30:21,604 --> 00:30:26,706 Whale sent an assassin known as Cyanide who tracked the couple to the country of Markovia 341 00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:32,829 where she successfully killed Violet. Unfortunately, a visit to her parents Sam and Margaret in 342 00:30:32,869 --> 00:30:38,472 Missouri drew the attention of Tobias Whale, who held them hostage in exchange for the drug 343 00:30:38,512 --> 00:30:44,295 formula, which Halo no longer remembered. Despite calling on aid from the outsiders and managing 344 00:30:44,355 --> 00:30:50,526 to defeat Tobias Whale, Halo's parents were killed by Cyanide in the ordeal. In an effort 345 00:30:50,566 --> 00:30:55,290 to learn more about her powers, Halo was brought aboard the Justice League satellite headquarters, 346 00:30:55,610 --> 00:31:01,234 where the article within her regained its memory. This event was observed by other articles, 347 00:31:01,554 --> 00:31:06,258 who took Halo into their ethereal dimension with the intent to separate her article from 348 00:31:06,298 --> 00:31:12,554 her body, a process that would also return Violet to her state of death. Fortunately, the Outsiders 349 00:31:12,594 --> 00:31:17,897 traveled to the Oracle Dimension and managed to save Halo, and the Oracles agreed to allow 350 00:31:17,937 --> 00:31:23,840 the merger of Violet and the Oracle to exist in peace. Halo left the Outsiders upon her 351 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:29,062 return in an effort to reconcile her identity and find herself, though she ended up later 352 00:31:29,162 --> 00:31:34,364 accidentally joining the Cult of Cobra, who tortured her to learn Batman's secret identity. 353 00:31:34,865 --> 00:31:41,248 Halo was rescued by the Outsiders, however, after which she rejoined the team. Framed for 354 00:31:41,268 --> 00:31:46,431 the murder of the Queen of Markovia and became fugitives on the run, Halo's rebellious Violet 355 00:31:46,471 --> 00:31:53,216 Harper personality began to re-emerge and eventually take control. Halo ended up betraying the Outsiders 356 00:31:53,256 --> 00:31:59,060 shortly before she was killed by a cyborg assassin named Sanction, who also killed the woman who 357 00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:05,424 hired him, Marissa Baron, the ex-wife of an Outsiders team member named Technocrat. Like 358 00:32:05,464 --> 00:32:11,628 with Violet's body before, the article somehow accidentally merged with Marissa, making her 359 00:32:11,688 --> 00:32:16,752 the new Halo. Though the Oracles returned to reclaim their kin, they were fought off by 360 00:32:16,792 --> 00:32:21,455 the Outsiders, after which the team was cleared of any wrongdoing regarding the death of the 361 00:32:21,495 --> 00:32:28,379 Markovian Queen. Violet Harper's body, however, was revived by Cobra and brainwashed into becoming 362 00:32:28,419 --> 00:32:33,963 the villain Spectrum. The Outsiders eventually disbanded and Halo appeared off and on throughout 363 00:32:33,983 --> 00:32:39,847 the years, aiding Markovia and other heroes during large crises. Eventually, though it 364 00:32:39,887 --> 00:32:46,332 is unknown Now, Halo returned to the body of Violet Harper, who joined a reformation of 365 00:32:46,352 --> 00:32:51,035 the outsiders following the death of Batman at the hands of Darkseid. When the villain 366 00:32:51,095 --> 00:32:55,979 Necron reanimated the dead heroes and villains of the DC Universe, turning them into black 367 00:32:56,019 --> 00:33:02,431 lanterns, Halo, thanks to her light-based powers, proved effective against the zombies, though 368 00:33:02,451 --> 00:33:09,034 she seemingly sacrificed herself while protecting the outsiders, becoming pure light and dispersing. 369 00:33:09,494 --> 00:33:15,457 After the Flash reset DC's continuity, Violet Harper was a drug addict imprisoned in Markovia, 370 00:33:15,557 --> 00:33:21,300 who later betrayed the location of Katana and the Suicide Squad to the Cobra Cult in exchange 371 00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:28,043 for narcotics. Cobra then experimented on Violet, intending to use her as a weapon, but the kidnapped 372 00:33:29,764 --> 00:33:35,487 Violet with captured articles, betrayed Cobra, and sabotaged a mind control device that would 373 00:33:35,507 --> 00:33:40,871 have allowed Cobra to control Violet's empowered form. When Kitana and the Suicide Squad showed 374 00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:46,775 up shortly after Violet's procedure, the articles burst from her body and tried to kill everyone, 375 00:33:47,155 --> 00:33:53,399 though they all fled in fear when Kitana's sword managed to kill one of them. All but one, that 376 00:33:53,479 --> 00:33:56,641 is, which had been bonded permanently to Violet's body. 377 00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:06,625 Katana invited Violet to join her. And that's her backstory. Powers-wise, Halo is an article-possessed 378 00:34:06,685 --> 00:34:13,047 human capable of manipulating the Halo, or aura-like light that emanates from her, for a variety 379 00:34:13,087 --> 00:34:18,268 of effects that are indicated by a specific color within the spectrum of light. When her 380 00:34:18,428 --> 00:34:25,246 aura is red, Halo can produce destructive heat-based laser beams, and when it's orange, Those lasers 381 00:34:25,326 --> 00:34:31,209 are concussive instead. Jiki used both red and orange light to create defensive shields as 382 00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:38,412 well. Her yellow light is used to stun and blind enemies in bright flashes, and her green light 383 00:34:38,573 --> 00:34:44,856 acts as a stasis beam to freeze enemies. Blue light allows her to create holographic distortions, 384 00:34:44,996 --> 00:34:50,670 specifically duplicates of herself or other objects. and Indigo Light can be used like 385 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:57,293 a tractor beam, allowing her to push, pull, or lift objects. Violet Light grants her access 386 00:34:57,314 --> 00:35:03,056 to all of her abilities at once, though this is rarely used because it also gives the unstable 387 00:35:03,116 --> 00:35:09,679 Violet Harper personality control over the body they share. When glowing in any of these specific 388 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,582 colors, Halo is able to fly up to the speed of light, which is her standard ability while 389 00:35:15,622 --> 00:35:21,624 glowing her standard white. mix too. It reminds me that I have a bone to pick with the color 390 00:35:21,725 --> 00:35:27,747 indigo. I feel like that color between blue and violet was only selected as part of the 391 00:35:27,787 --> 00:35:32,688 color spectrum to complete the ROYGBIV acronym, which is, you know, red, orange, yellow, green, 392 00:35:32,728 --> 00:35:38,650 blue, indigo, violet, like NYX indigo and make more room for cyan because cyan is definitely 393 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:45,052 a unique color between green and blue. I agree with you 100% because honestly, it should just 394 00:35:45,092 --> 00:35:52,528 be red, yellow, green, sand, blue, magenta. Purple. No, fuck purple and fuck orange. What? 395 00:35:53,069 --> 00:35:57,992 Yeah. Jesus. You heard me. Wow. You're just talking about this character, right? Like the 396 00:35:58,012 --> 00:36:02,896 colors that she would have as a producer of light, right? Right, exactly. Oh, she would 397 00:36:02,936 --> 00:36:08,940 have magenta light. Right, exactly. Yeah, makes sense. But we digress heavily. 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Join us as we speculate on 404 00:36:50,328 --> 00:36:56,033 the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, discover who will emerge victorious. 405 00:36:56,553 --> 00:37:00,837 Visit dynamicpodcast.com, where we settle the debate and settle the score. 406 00:37:05,143 --> 00:37:09,005 But now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one 407 00:37:09,105 --> 00:37:15,610 of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not this speculation, 408 00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:21,434 but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? 409 00:37:22,314 --> 00:37:26,317 Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge 410 00:37:26,337 --> 00:37:30,740 of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other 411 00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:35,847 character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation, the contestants will begin 412 00:37:35,888 --> 00:37:40,952 approximately 50 meters apart in a non-descript environment that will have no bearing on the 413 00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:46,336 match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants 414 00:37:46,376 --> 00:37:51,541 must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's get into it. Halo and Powerhouse 415 00:37:51,621 --> 00:37:56,785 meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? Well, since Halo moves faster, I'm gonna say she 416 00:37:56,825 --> 00:38:02,189 goes first. And she's gonna start by turning yellow and flashing a bright yellow light that... 417 00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:07,271 blinds powerhouse and while he's like oh i can't see that's you know when she's going to blast 418 00:38:07,311 --> 00:38:12,453 him with an orange concussive beam just knocking him backwards no because powerhouse's first 419 00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:19,055 instinct once he goes blind is going to be to go intangible so he's going to access his brother 420 00:38:19,135 --> 00:38:24,116 jack's powers as mass master and he's going to lower his density which turns him into this 421 00:38:24,156 --> 00:38:28,530 like gaseous form and this orange beam is just going to pass right through him And, you know, 422 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:33,034 he's slowly regaining his sight and he's going to float up into the air as this cloud. And 423 00:38:33,054 --> 00:38:37,958 when he can see again, once he gets his vision back, Powerhouse is going to solidify out of 424 00:38:37,978 --> 00:38:43,442 this cloud form and he's going to increase his mass and gravity so that he just drops onto 425 00:38:43,482 --> 00:38:47,745 Halo like an ocean tanker. But like fist first, just slamming her and flattening her into the 426 00:38:47,785 --> 00:38:54,671 ground. Wait, so is Powerhouse visible in this gaseous form? Yeah. Why? Okay, well, this isn't 427 00:38:54,691 --> 00:39:00,095 a surprise to Halo because, you know, she just watches this whole thing unfold and as he's 428 00:39:00,135 --> 00:39:04,599 falling down on her, she's just going to turn Indigo and send out a tractor beam that's going 429 00:39:04,619 --> 00:39:11,605 to grab him and just slam him into the ground away from her instead. Alright, but as Halo 430 00:39:11,645 --> 00:39:17,270 tries to slam him, Powerhouse is going to shrink. He's going to decrease his size and mass to 431 00:39:17,290 --> 00:39:22,970 about 8 inches tall. So instead of like slamming him hard onto the ground, It's more like she 432 00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:27,612 just gently sets him onto the ground because he doesn't have the mass to support the slam. 433 00:39:28,632 --> 00:39:34,575 And that's when Powerhouse is gonna grow to normal height and he's gonna access his sister 434 00:39:34,655 --> 00:39:39,557 Julie's light speed powers. So he's gonna fly right at Halo at supersonic speed and just 435 00:39:39,637 --> 00:39:45,579 plow into her, breaking some ribs, knocking the wind out of her. Okay, you know, Halo gets 436 00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:51,798 hit, but as she's recovering, she glows green and she's gonna zap Powerhouse. with the stasis 437 00:39:51,838 --> 00:39:58,340 beam, just freezing him mid air to give her time to finish recovering. And as he's frozen, 438 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,061 that's when she just goes out to him and just kicks the shit out of him, like punching him 439 00:40:03,101 --> 00:40:09,743 in the nose, kicking him in the spleen, and he's just forced to take it. And Halo might 440 00:40:09,763 --> 00:40:14,705 get a few shots in, sure, but like only a few, because powerhouse, he's just gonna teleport 441 00:40:14,765 --> 00:40:20,439 out of the stasis beam. And then he's- No, no, no. He's completely frozen, like he can't even 442 00:40:20,499 --> 00:40:26,442 breathe in this thing. He takes those hits like a real fucking man would. It's not like he 443 00:40:26,482 --> 00:40:31,785 needs to move in order to teleport. He can just teleport out of the stasis beam. Is teleportation 444 00:40:31,945 --> 00:40:40,249 an action? No, it is. So he can't do it because he's literally frozen in like space time. If 445 00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:45,012 he was like frozen in a block of ice, he could teleport easily. Same thing. No, she's not 446 00:40:45,112 --> 00:40:52,088 freezing him with cold. She's freezing Kim. with energy, all right? Stasis field. He can't 447 00:40:52,108 --> 00:40:57,893 do shit. Okay, so like you'd rather punch a little kid than say he's capable of teleporting 448 00:40:58,033 --> 00:41:06,219 out. I see how you are. She's a teenager too. All right, okay, anyway. So Powerhouse teleports 449 00:41:06,279 --> 00:41:11,583 out of the stasis field. I'm just calling it. I'm sorry, that's what he did. Although now 450 00:41:11,623 --> 00:41:16,666 I'm seeing the downside to not using the full power pack team in the speculation. because 451 00:41:16,886 --> 00:41:21,167 as individuels, they can heal each other. And so there's no one around to heal Powerhouse 452 00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:25,408 from the wounds that he just received. But- What power do they use to heal each other? 453 00:41:25,848 --> 00:41:30,509 They can like share each other's life force, basically. Weird. I'm gonna say Powerhouse 454 00:41:30,549 --> 00:41:35,651 teleports right next to Halo and grabs her, and he's gonna completely negate the effect 455 00:41:35,691 --> 00:41:39,732 of gravity on her, so she like weighs nothing. And with that, he's just gonna toss her up 456 00:41:39,772 --> 00:41:45,533 into the air beyond the stratosphere. In the air, okay, yeah, that's fine. From the stratosphere. 457 00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:51,873 Halo is just gonna rain down these red lasers just everywhere, burning up Powerhouse and 458 00:41:51,913 --> 00:41:57,776 the surrounding environment beneath him. Awesome. Powerhouse gets hit by the lasers, sure, and 459 00:41:57,816 --> 00:42:02,839 the whole area around him is on fire, but he's gonna absorb those heat beams with his sister 460 00:42:02,879 --> 00:42:07,642 Katie's energizer powers. He absorbs the beams, he's gonna absorb the flames all around him, 461 00:42:08,202 --> 00:42:13,585 so now he's just glowing with this bright yellow energy and he's gonna fly up into the atmosphere 462 00:42:13,805 --> 00:42:19,598 to meet Halo. and he's just gonna fucking demolish her with this massive energy blast that she 463 00:42:19,638 --> 00:42:24,802 fueled him with and it's just gonna obliterate her. Oh no, she's obliterated. You know what's 464 00:42:24,822 --> 00:42:31,928 crazy though? What? That halo that he saw and obliterated was just an illusion generated 465 00:42:32,008 --> 00:42:39,395 by Halo's blue aura. The real Halo is actually coming in fast behind Powerhouse and just slams 466 00:42:39,455 --> 00:42:45,114 into him at near light speed with a red force field. disintegrating him instantly instead 467 00:42:45,534 --> 00:42:51,916 because she could actually travel at light speed unlike his sister. Oh shit, more child abuse. 468 00:42:52,296 --> 00:42:58,538 I see. Just the splattering powerhouse make Halo feel like more of a woman beating up on 469 00:42:58,578 --> 00:43:03,379 kids like that. It's child on child crime. Like what has powerhouse been doing this whole time 470 00:43:03,419 --> 00:43:09,221 but hitting a girl. Halo's not a girl. She's like a alien zombie. There's a difference. 471 00:43:09,441 --> 00:43:16,928 Yeah, an alien zombie girl. I feel like that's a Rob Zombie like alien zombie girl. Na na 472 00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:24,212 na. We can leave the match there before we run the simulations. So either Halo obliterates 473 00:43:24,272 --> 00:43:29,855 Powerhouse by slamming into him at light speed with a force field or Powerhouse obliterates 474 00:43:29,995 --> 00:43:34,818 Halo with a giant energy blast. Well, go ahead and input the character stats, run the simulations 475 00:43:34,938 --> 00:43:42,418 and come back with a winner. AG9K, hit it. Inputting data, running calculations. Processing results 476 00:43:42,919 --> 00:43:47,944 simulations complete. All right, not being too familiar with either of these characters I 477 00:43:47,984 --> 00:43:53,209 have no idea how these results are gonna go I'm not gonna be surprised either way whether 478 00:43:53,249 --> 00:43:58,674 power pack or halo win because I feel like you know They both have a grab bag of powers some 479 00:43:58,714 --> 00:44:04,319 of them fairly random Seemingly and I think that just gonna make the results kind of random. 480 00:44:04,739 --> 00:44:10,264 Yeah, the characters seem to be like either really strong in a stat or incredibly weak 481 00:44:10,344 --> 00:44:14,987 considering that, you know, they're children. So like when it came to fighting skill, intelligence 482 00:44:15,047 --> 00:44:20,972 or perception, they were very, very low. But like you look at speed and versatility, you 483 00:44:20,992 --> 00:44:26,556 know, Halo was maxed out on those. And then you look at things like evasiveness and strength, 484 00:44:26,716 --> 00:44:31,119 Power Pack was maxed out on those. So you're right, there's not a whole lot of in between 485 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,294 either they are really good at a stat or they really suck. I think what really surprised 486 00:44:35,334 --> 00:44:40,637 me was that they actually were pretty comparable when it came to damage level. I thought Halo 487 00:44:40,657 --> 00:44:45,460 was going to take it on that one, but you know, considering powerhouse could use Energizer's 488 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:50,863 powers to basically do the same kind of destructive beams that she could do. Yeah, they're pretty 489 00:44:50,883 --> 00:44:55,625 much the same. Well Energizer's powers aren't represented as beams. They're more like energy 490 00:44:55,765 --> 00:45:00,528 balls. But yeah, I mean, she can disintegrate any form of solid matter and convert it into 491 00:45:00,608 --> 00:45:04,930 energy, which you know, has a lot of destructive potential on its own. even without the energy 492 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:09,993 blasts. Both characters were actually fairly weak when it came to durability. That's another 493 00:45:10,033 --> 00:45:13,395 thing that I thought was pretty surprising. Although Power Pack had the slight edge there 494 00:45:13,435 --> 00:45:18,837 because Masked Master can increase his density to become more durable. Considering all these 495 00:45:18,858 --> 00:45:24,701 stats, Jonathan, who do you think is going to win this match? I have no idea, honestly. I'm 496 00:45:24,841 --> 00:45:31,965 rooting for Halo though, and so are our followers on Instagram. 65% of them who voted in the 497 00:45:32,005 --> 00:45:36,359 poll voted for Halo. The power pack, they're a bunch of cute kids. Why wouldn't you vote 498 00:45:36,379 --> 00:45:41,983 for them? You know, it's kind of weird. Because they're a bunch of fucking kids. I guess they 499 00:45:42,003 --> 00:45:47,186 got that going for and against them. I say that like I don't have kids. Grace, Faith, I love 500 00:45:47,206 --> 00:45:53,371 you girls. Well, let's go ahead and find out who won. AG9K, the results please. Here you 501 00:45:53,491 --> 00:46:04,978 are, sir. All right, the winner between Halo and Power Pack is Power Pack. Dang it! And 502 00:46:05,038 --> 00:46:10,779 you know what? It wasn't really that close. Out of a thousand matches, Power Pack won 654 503 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:20,262 battles, whereas Halo only won 346. So Power Pack's win rate was 65.4%, whereas Halo's win 504 00:46:20,302 --> 00:46:27,804 rate was only 34.6%. Really? Ah, the Power Pack essentially wins two-thirds of the time. Yeah, 505 00:46:27,984 --> 00:46:32,365 pretty much. Essentially the few things that gave Power Pack an edge over Halo were durability. 506 00:46:32,546 --> 00:46:37,968 but also intellect, you know, when factoring in Alex Powers' high intelligence. You know, 507 00:46:37,988 --> 00:46:42,811 he was a member of the Future Foundation. Reed Richards himself said he was around postgraduate 508 00:46:42,851 --> 00:46:48,734 level intelligence at the age of 19. So despite the fact that Power Pack also has Katie, who's 509 00:46:48,754 --> 00:46:54,177 a young kid, who's, you know, not as brilliant, when you average everything out, Power Pack 510 00:46:54,217 --> 00:46:58,740 still had a slight edge in intelligence over Halo. Which is fair, because I feel like a 511 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,322 teenager stealing a drug formula from a mobster pretty dumb. It's not that smart of a teenager. 512 00:47:05,862 --> 00:47:11,564 Makes sense. Is it kind of embarrassing though to be eked out by the intelligence stat? Because 513 00:47:11,604 --> 00:47:16,425 I feel like that would be pretty embarrassing, especially from a group of kids. Well, I mean, 514 00:47:16,485 --> 00:47:22,707 honestly, I kind of had to average out her intelligence stat as well, considering that the article 515 00:47:22,727 --> 00:47:27,968 within her is actually thousands of years old and has amassed quite a bit of knowledge that 516 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:33,586 said she doesn't really have access to it and she never really uses it. and the merged halo 517 00:47:33,826 --> 00:47:39,288 combined persona in a majority of her depictions has amnesia. So she doesn't really know anything, 518 00:47:39,369 --> 00:47:44,150 unfortunately. Does she have amnesia currently in the comics? From the last thing I read from 519 00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:49,533 her, yeah, she's still kind of learning who she is while living with Katana. She's very 520 00:47:49,553 --> 00:47:54,955 much dependent on her. Okay, makes sense, makes sense then. So this is a great win for Marvel. 521 00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:59,777 I encourage a lot of listeners out there to go check out Power Pack in Marvel Comics. Actually, 522 00:47:59,797 --> 00:48:06,168 a lot of their best stories. do not take place in the 616 main Marvel timeline, but rather 523 00:48:06,268 --> 00:48:12,071 the more kid-targeted comics called Marvel Age. That's its own continuity. But they're quite 524 00:48:12,111 --> 00:48:16,354 accessible for kids, the Power Pack. As a matter of fact, my daughter, who's one year old now, 525 00:48:16,534 --> 00:48:19,836 when the time comes for her to start reading comics and stuff and getting introduced to 526 00:48:19,876 --> 00:48:24,458 Marvel, I think I'm going to start off with Power Pack. And then from there, around age 527 00:48:24,819 --> 00:48:29,961 seven or whatnot, I'll introduce her to Spidey and the Fantastic Four. And then from there, 528 00:48:30,454 --> 00:48:35,417 like around 11 or 12, probably get into more of like the X-Men and the deeper themes and 529 00:48:35,457 --> 00:48:39,621 stuff like that. Yeah, which is like the limit for Marvel, like 11 and 12 year olds could 530 00:48:39,661 --> 00:48:45,485 read X-Men. You know, DC has the real highbrow stuff. So like when she's turning 16, totally 531 00:48:45,525 --> 00:48:50,309 getting her sand man. You're not going to poison my daughter's mind with it. That bullcrap. 532 00:48:51,818 --> 00:48:56,320 I mean, Marvel has the Max line, so when Ella becomes even older, you know, she could start 533 00:48:56,340 --> 00:49:00,382 reading Max comics if she wants. I don't fucking know. I don't even know if she'll be into comics, 534 00:49:00,422 --> 00:49:05,765 but we'll see. I can introduce her to DC super pets because that's pretty kid friendly. No! 535 00:49:06,205 --> 00:49:12,688 Well, fine then. Geez. Not poisoning her mind, I just said. Well, I guess that does it for 536 00:49:12,728 --> 00:49:20,390 this duel. AJ 9K, help close this out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic duel. Visit the show's 537 00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:26,312 website at dynamicduel.com and follow us on Instagram at dynamicduelpodcast. You can support 538 00:49:26,352 --> 00:49:32,074 the show on Patreon at patreon.com slash dynamicduel and joining a tier that works for you, or by 539 00:49:32,134 --> 00:49:38,295 rating and reviewing Dynamic duel on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser or on our website. Don't 540 00:49:38,315 --> 00:49:42,857 forget to listen to the other shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network, including Max Destruction, 541 00:49:43,197 --> 00:49:49,342 Senjow World and Console Combat. Next week's episode is going to come out right before the 542 00:49:49,382 --> 00:49:53,623 4th of July. It's going to come out July 2nd. So we're going to have a little 4th of July 543 00:49:53,764 --> 00:49:58,145 themed episode for you guys, where we're going to find out who to win in a fight between Uncle 544 00:49:58,245 --> 00:50:05,687 Sam, who was like the personification of American patriotism and Captain Britain, who is a hero 545 00:50:05,727 --> 00:50:12,209 from the British Isles. I'm just glad that I am on the side of America and you're a frigging 546 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:17,680 red coat. Yeah, I don't love that. But Captain Britain is more awesome than Uncle Sam, who's 547 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:22,344 kind of a lame ass character, so yeah, I'm gonna win this next one too. We'll see. But that 548 00:50:22,364 --> 00:50:26,407 does it for this episode, we want to give a big thanks to our executive producers Ken Johnson, 549 00:50:26,627 --> 00:50:31,511 John Strosky, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Balcombe, Mickey Mathageon, Brandon Nestergaard, Nathaniel 550 00:50:31,531 --> 00:50:37,917 Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Austin Wazilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spies, Andrew 551 00:50:37,957 --> 00:50:43,801 Shunk, Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, and Joseph Kirsting for helping make this podcast possible. 552 00:50:44,206 --> 00:50:47,533 We'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers.