1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,963 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,346 --> 00:00:28,889 Welcome to the dynamic duel podcast a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:28,909 --> 00:00:34,374 the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters And stat based battle simulations. 4 00:00:34,954 --> 00:00:40,859 I'm Marvelous Joe and I'm his twin brother Johnny DC And in this episode we are going to put 5 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:48,125 the debate to rest on who would win in a fight between Geoforce and Quake a match that literally 6 00:00:48,545 --> 00:00:55,138 a few people asked for Because Geoforce is not very well known I think As opposed to Quake? 7 00:00:55,518 --> 00:00:58,980 Like what if she did some like ragtag shield agent who doesn't even have like a superhero 8 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:03,642 costume? No, I mean she was the lead character and agents of shield besides, you know, Phil 9 00:01:03,682 --> 00:01:07,643 Coulson. So I don't know what you're talking about Quake is taking this one. You have no 10 00:01:07,743 --> 00:01:12,665 idea how hard she's gonna lose. You'll find out. You're gonna learn today We'll see before 11 00:01:12,685 --> 00:01:15,947 we get into that matchup before we put in the character stats and run a thousand simulations 12 00:01:15,967 --> 00:01:19,568 and find out who would definitively win We're gonna break down the latest comic book movie 13 00:01:19,588 --> 00:01:23,490 news which came out this past week of which we have a few news items including the news 14 00:01:23,530 --> 00:01:28,972 that the Blade movie has lost its director, Yann Dimage, and we got a teaser trailer for 15 00:01:28,992 --> 00:01:34,694 the upcoming animated Watchmen films. 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On the Sendrow World 30 00:02:49,982 --> 00:02:55,246 podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga 31 00:02:55,326 --> 00:03:00,710 characters. The show is currently on a season hiatus, so this is the perfect time for you 32 00:03:00,830 --> 00:03:06,278 anime fans to catch up on Sendrow World's 40 episode library. And on the Console Combat 33 00:03:06,298 --> 00:03:10,982 Podcast, hosts John and Dean find out who would win in fights between popular video game characters. 34 00:03:11,362 --> 00:03:15,004 In yesterday's episode, which you can listen to right after this one, they found out who 35 00:03:15,024 --> 00:03:20,668 would win in a fight between Captain Falcon from the F-Zero video games against Sweet Tooth 36 00:03:20,989 --> 00:03:26,733 from Twisted Metal. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen 37 00:03:26,753 --> 00:03:32,457 to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick 38 00:03:32,677 --> 00:03:39,420 to the no prize! No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the 39 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:44,322 Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram for the person that we feel 40 00:03:44,362 --> 00:03:49,905 gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked, what Marvel or DC 41 00:03:49,945 --> 00:03:55,688 character do you think has had the most successful trilogy of films and why? And of course this 42 00:03:55,728 --> 00:04:01,432 tied into the trailer for the third Venom film, Venom The Last Dance. Yeah, little round out 43 00:04:01,452 --> 00:04:04,753 that character's trilogy and we were curious who you guys thought had the best trilogy. 44 00:04:05,142 --> 00:04:09,564 So let's run down our honorable mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable 45 00:04:09,584 --> 00:04:16,268 mention goes to Waldo, who said, Hey guys, it's Waldo again. So as far as the most successful 46 00:04:16,308 --> 00:04:23,351 film trilogy, I'm pretty sure it'd be Nolan's Batman with Christian Bale. So while I may 47 00:04:23,391 --> 00:04:30,515 not like it, he was Batman in name only, he did very little detective work. And all his 48 00:04:30,555 --> 00:04:38,523 stuff was made by Fox, and she showed very little actual intellect of His fans are still raving 49 00:04:38,543 --> 00:04:45,168 about it to this day. I hear you man, I am not a fan of the Dark Knight trilogy being a Marvel 50 00:04:45,188 --> 00:04:50,691 fan myself. Like that Batman was not the Batman that I know. My gosh. He wasn't that smart. 51 00:04:51,011 --> 00:04:56,754 He didn't make anything. He didn't deduce anything. He was basically a piece of shit. But for some 52 00:04:56,814 --> 00:05:01,216 reason- I'm gonna slap the shit out of you. People really like the Dark Knight trilogy. 53 00:05:01,276 --> 00:05:05,959 I don't know why. Jonathan, can you explain it? The films are amazing first of all. I don't 54 00:05:06,019 --> 00:05:12,583 get why you wouldn't like the Dark Knight trilogy. It's such a great saga. of Batman from beginning 55 00:05:12,623 --> 00:05:17,586 to end. You know, it starts off perfectly with Batman Begins, ramps up with the Dark Knight, 56 00:05:18,167 --> 00:05:23,390 and doesn't quite stick the landing with Rises, but it comes damn close. Making arguments that, 57 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:29,054 oh, it's not good because Batman didn't make his own gadgets. I actually liked what they 58 00:05:29,094 --> 00:05:34,498 did with this movie because Bruce Wayne is not an engineer. Like, it's OK if the head engineer 59 00:05:34,538 --> 00:05:39,101 from Wayne Tech makes his gadgets for him. That's not a problem. It's kind of cool, actually. 60 00:05:39,414 --> 00:05:44,977 that he would have a cue of sorts in the same way James Bond does. And as for detective work, 61 00:05:45,477 --> 00:05:51,120 you guys are smoking so much crack. What are you talking about? Like he did fantastic detective 62 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:55,862 work like in The Dark Knight with like his sonar gear and stuff like that and finding answers. 63 00:05:55,922 --> 00:06:02,486 And you guys are so wrong, but yet so right in that it's a fantastic trilogy. I never said 64 00:06:02,506 --> 00:06:08,149 it was a fantastic trilogy. Waldo did. OK, well, you're wrong then. And Waldo's right. Great 65 00:06:08,209 --> 00:06:13,949 answer, Waldo. Our next honorable mention goes to... Miggi Mattingian, who said... Hey what's 66 00:06:13,969 --> 00:06:19,252 up guys, this is Miggi, and my favorite superhero trilogy is the Dark Knight trilogy. Of course, 67 00:06:19,272 --> 00:06:25,016 you know I had to do it as a DC fan, but not just that, because of that. It's just legitimately 68 00:06:25,036 --> 00:06:29,799 a really great trilogy. Batman Begins just kind of revolutionized the genre, bringing like 69 00:06:29,819 --> 00:06:35,443 a grounded, like, serious take on superheroes. Dark Knight is just a masterpiece inducted 70 00:06:35,463 --> 00:06:39,318 into the National Library of Congress. And then Dark Knight Rises is just like... wraps it 71 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:45,642 up really nicely. So yeah. Thanks guys. Yeah, the Dark Knight influenced an entire generation 72 00:06:45,943 --> 00:06:50,726 of films and filmmakers. You wouldn't even have the Iron Man movie if the Dark Knight wasn't 73 00:06:50,746 --> 00:06:57,711 made as influential as it was in terms of taking a really serious approach to the subject matter. 74 00:06:58,151 --> 00:07:03,515 You're aware that Iron Man came out before the Dark Knight, right? No, I'm fucking not aware 75 00:07:03,555 --> 00:07:11,673 of that, obviously. Well, it did. So I met after Batman begins, which it was inspired by with 76 00:07:11,693 --> 00:07:23,603 all the flashbacks and nonlinear storytelling. All right. You're dumb. No, no, you are. Great 77 00:07:23,663 --> 00:07:29,909 answer. Make your next honorable mention goes to Cyrus Moore, who said, Hey guys, Cyrus Moore 78 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:36,798 here. And we all know, obviously the best movie trilogy is the X. I mean it's the Christian 79 00:07:36,818 --> 00:07:42,039 Bale Batman movies. You physically can't get any better. We all know Christian Bale was 80 00:07:42,059 --> 00:07:48,801 the best Batman. Most successful movie is Christian Bale Batman. It's the movie trilogy we deserve 81 00:07:49,221 --> 00:07:53,923 and the one that we need also, cause it's so damn good. It seems like everybody's answering 82 00:07:53,963 --> 00:07:59,424 the Dark Knight trilogy. Yeah, cause it's clearly the obvious winner. Even though it's not the 83 00:07:59,444 --> 00:08:05,920 winner of the Snow Prize for some effed up reason. I'll tell you why it's not the No Prize winner. 84 00:08:06,180 --> 00:08:10,203 It's because, you know, if everybody's answering The Dark Knight Rises, how do we choose among 85 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:14,807 them? Obviously, we have to go with the choice that is not the Dark Knight trilogy, and therefore, 86 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:22,153 the winner of this week's No Prize goes to Scotty Macho, who said, Scotty Macho from Max Destruction, 87 00:08:22,914 --> 00:08:27,677 my DC cohorts are not going to like me for this answer, but they will understand. I'm going 88 00:08:27,697 --> 00:08:35,150 to say Deadpool. Now Deadpool Overring hasn't come out officially yet. But I mean, when it 89 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:42,492 does, is there any argument? I mean, the Deadpool series has been phenomenal and only Ryan Reynolds 90 00:08:42,652 --> 00:08:49,754 can deliver it. Deadpool is my pick. Is there any argument? Hell yeah, there's a lot of argument. 91 00:08:49,914 --> 00:08:54,115 The first two Deadpool movies were good, but none of them even come close to approaching 92 00:08:54,475 --> 00:09:00,437 the quality of The Dark Knight. I would argue that the first Deadpool movie is funnier than 93 00:09:00,477 --> 00:09:04,690 The Dark Knight and therefore better. So there you go. I mean, Deadpool 2 is a little bit 94 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:10,853 eh, but I think Scotty has a point, even though the fact that he is empirically incorrect in 95 00:09:10,893 --> 00:09:15,435 his answer because the third Deadpool movie has not yet come out. But we're gonna give 96 00:09:15,475 --> 00:09:20,717 it to him anyway because he had the originality to not be a sheeple and say the Dark Knight 97 00:09:20,757 --> 00:09:25,659 trilogy. There's only one answer to this question. Like it was a bad question to begin with because 98 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:31,501 obviously it's the Dark Knight trilogy. I will say that we retain the right to retroactively 99 00:09:31,621 --> 00:09:36,669 strip Scotty of this no prize if in fact it turns out that the Deadpool and Wolverine movie 100 00:09:36,749 --> 00:09:41,094 sucks, but I don't think it's going to so I think this no prize is gonna stick. I mean 101 00:09:41,134 --> 00:09:47,199 even if it doesn't it's still not gonna match the influence and magnum opus That is the Nolan 102 00:09:47,219 --> 00:09:52,084 trilogy of Batman films. What if Deadpool and Wolverine is so good that it wins like Best 103 00:09:52,124 --> 00:09:57,989 Picture Oscar You don't know how good it's gonna be shut the hell up Check your expectations 104 00:09:58,582 --> 00:10:02,584 Jonathan, what would you answer to this question? What do you think is the best superhero trilogy? 105 00:10:02,864 --> 00:10:08,327 The Dark Knight trilogy, obviously, hands down. Okay, you're also a sheeple then, okay. What 106 00:10:08,347 --> 00:10:13,010 would you say? I mean, there's a lot of Marvel answers that you could give. I thought Spider-Man, 107 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:17,512 the Tom Holland Spider-Man trilogy, like the Home trilogy was incredible. I think it was 108 00:10:17,552 --> 00:10:22,355 even better than the Sam Raimi trilogy, but also Guardians of the Galaxy. I think all three 109 00:10:22,395 --> 00:10:27,914 of those films, Guardians, Volume One, Two, and Three, were incredible. and they probably 110 00:10:27,954 --> 00:10:33,378 won't ever be beaten in terms of that franchise. So I guess my pick would be for Guardians. 111 00:10:33,918 --> 00:10:38,341 I'm actually really surprised you didn't say Captain America because Winter Soldier and 112 00:10:38,381 --> 00:10:45,185 Civil War are really good. Yeah, they're fantastic. They're incredible. But I'm not sure the first 113 00:10:45,245 --> 00:10:49,828 movie compares to the latter two. The thing is, though, you know why people didn't call 114 00:10:49,888 --> 00:10:54,879 in with those answers? Because they were lazy. Because those still aren't as good as the Dark 115 00:10:54,899 --> 00:11:00,324 Knight trilogy and everyone knows it. I don't know that. Cause you're stupid. Great answer 116 00:11:00,364 --> 00:11:04,447 Scotty, you win this week's no prize. If you the listener want to win your own no prize, 117 00:11:04,608 --> 00:11:08,851 stay tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And 118 00:11:08,891 --> 00:11:11,033 now that that's done, on to the news! 119 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:20,769 Alright, this past week we got horrible news in regards to the Blade movie that is currently 120 00:11:20,829 --> 00:11:26,354 being produced by Marvel Studios. This project has been languishing in development hell for 121 00:11:26,434 --> 00:11:32,579 quite a while now, ever since it was first announced by Kevin Feige at the 2019 Comic Con, where 122 00:11:32,599 --> 00:11:38,924 we first saw the upcoming star of Blade, Mahershala Ali, put on the Blade hat. Ever since that 123 00:11:38,944 --> 00:11:43,908 announcement, I've been waiting with bated breath for the Blade movie to come out, and it's been 124 00:11:43,968 --> 00:11:50,185 delayed after... director loss after delay, after new writer, after director loss, and 125 00:11:50,525 --> 00:11:55,969 there's just no end to this bad news. But we learned that the director that was most recently 126 00:11:56,010 --> 00:12:03,315 attached, Jan Damange, is no longer directing Marvel Studios' Blade. And it's almost like 127 00:12:03,335 --> 00:12:07,919 the movie is cursed by this point, because it's already 2024. It seems like the movie is not 128 00:12:07,939 --> 00:12:12,502 going to come out for quite a while now that they have to. you know, essentially look for 129 00:12:12,542 --> 00:12:16,544 a new director. And at that point you might get new script rewrites to suit the new director 130 00:12:16,564 --> 00:12:21,165 and stuff like that. Hopefully Mahershala Ali stays with the project because I do think that 131 00:12:21,206 --> 00:12:25,867 he'd be a fantastic Blade. But at this point, everything just seems up in the air in regards 132 00:12:25,927 --> 00:12:29,869 to this particular franchise. Would you hate it if they just scrapped the whole project? 133 00:12:30,729 --> 00:12:36,792 Yeah, obviously. I mean, we already have quite a few good Blade movies. I'm not quite sure 134 00:12:36,892 --> 00:12:42,138 what they could do with it that has already been done successfully. in the prior franchise 135 00:12:42,158 --> 00:12:48,400 with Wesley Snipes. We have two good Blade movies and I mean we've seen what Marvel Studios is 136 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,221 capable of doing with characters that are under their purview as compared to other studios. 137 00:12:53,381 --> 00:12:58,043 Like say the Hulk. I thought Incredible Hulk was better than 2003's Hulk. I think Blade 138 00:12:58,083 --> 00:13:04,084 has the potential to not only be an amazing franchise but also steer the MCU in a direction 139 00:13:04,104 --> 00:13:09,594 that it's really never gone down before. Except for you know. the werewolf by night special 140 00:13:09,634 --> 00:13:13,356 presentation that they released on Disney plus a few years ago Honestly, they should have 141 00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:16,997 just introduced blade in that short film It would have been a much better introduction 142 00:13:17,037 --> 00:13:22,499 than what he got in eternals If I was Kevin Feige, I would scrap eternals just scrub that 143 00:13:22,699 --> 00:13:27,181 erase it from everyone's memory And scrap this blade film as well because we don't need it. 144 00:13:27,201 --> 00:13:32,563 Uh, we do need it and I don't know what you're talking about. We don't need vampires in the 145 00:13:32,684 --> 00:13:38,286 mcu. It's just gonna like make things so complicated How are vampires complicated? How are they 146 00:13:38,306 --> 00:13:43,350 not complicated? What? They're very complicated. No, they're not, they're fine. It's all fine. 147 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:47,473 People already know the lore of vampires, so introducing a vampire hunter into the mix, 148 00:13:47,533 --> 00:13:52,997 I think, would not only be cool, it would be unique, at least for the MCU. Now, Yann Dimage 149 00:13:53,137 --> 00:13:58,661 replaced Bassam Tariq as the director, and now I'm wondering who's gonna replace Yann Dimage. 150 00:13:59,041 --> 00:14:03,084 I think there are quite a few candidates that I think would make a great Blade movie, and 151 00:14:03,104 --> 00:14:04,885 that brings us to our question of the week. 152 00:14:09,422 --> 00:14:15,466 Who do you want to direct Marvel Studios Blade movie and why? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com 153 00:14:15,926 --> 00:14:19,469 by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, 154 00:14:19,749 --> 00:14:23,832 which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message can be up to 30 seconds long and 155 00:14:23,912 --> 00:14:28,376 don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite 156 00:14:28,456 --> 00:14:33,199 answer and award that person a dynamic duel no prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure 157 00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:41,848 to answer before June 22nd. In DC news, last week we got the teaser trailer for parts 1 158 00:14:41,929 --> 00:14:48,852 and 2 of an animated watchman film that is going to be released direct to video and it looks 159 00:14:49,072 --> 00:14:55,316 incredible. Honestly, it looks a lot like the Zack Snyder film, which also looked incredible. 160 00:14:55,756 --> 00:15:00,098 And I think that was the most surprising thing to me in this trailer. It was just a reminder 161 00:15:00,138 --> 00:15:06,578 of how faithful Zack Snyder's framing was in matching the panels from the comic. Now this 162 00:15:06,618 --> 00:15:13,181 project was first announced in 2017 and we didn't hear anything about it until 2023 at Comic 163 00:15:13,201 --> 00:15:19,343 Con and yeah I totally forgot it existed until this was released and now I'm pretty pumped 164 00:15:19,383 --> 00:15:24,085 for it. It's coming out fairly soon the first part is supposed to be released in August of 165 00:15:24,125 --> 00:15:29,588 this year but part two won't be coming out until next year I guess. My big question is why is 166 00:15:29,628 --> 00:15:36,043 this a thing? Like why is this necessary if it's so close? to the Zack Snyder live action 167 00:15:36,243 --> 00:15:42,168 Watchmen adaptation, do we need this animated project? We do not, I believe. I think the 168 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:47,272 reason they're doing it is because it's been over 10 years since Zack Snyder's film, and 169 00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:52,437 Warner Brothers just likes to keep Watchmen out in people's consciousness, as it were. 170 00:15:52,837 --> 00:15:57,801 I mean, we recently had the Watchmen HBO television series, though, that did a great job of doing 171 00:15:57,862 --> 00:16:02,405 just that. This Watchmen movie that's coming out looks almost exactly like the What If. 172 00:16:02,818 --> 00:16:07,241 style of animation that we've seen from Disney Plus. This whole trailer just made me think 173 00:16:07,321 --> 00:16:13,967 like, what if DC were to make a redundant Watchmen movie? That's what this trailer is asking. 174 00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:19,351 Oh yeah? The style of this actually matches the style that was done with the Super Sons 175 00:16:19,391 --> 00:16:26,357 movie, if you remember that. So no, they're not biting off of the what if style of animation 176 00:16:26,397 --> 00:16:31,970 that Disney Plus is doing with that show. So calm down, okay? I don't know about that. The 177 00:16:32,010 --> 00:16:37,215 teaser trailer was not that long, it's only 41 seconds. But yeah, every frame is basically 178 00:16:37,275 --> 00:16:43,080 like a panel from the comic. So you can make the argument that this is unnecessary, since 179 00:16:43,641 --> 00:16:50,687 not only do we have a movie and a comic, but Watchmen is just such a good story. I'm pretty 180 00:16:50,727 --> 00:16:56,933 much down with any adaptation. We did receive an animated Watchmen motion comic over a decade 181 00:16:56,973 --> 00:17:03,163 ago. and I still loved watching that even with the live action movie having been made and 182 00:17:03,243 --> 00:17:08,384 I'll probably still enjoy this adaptation as well. I'm gonna tell you now and I'm speaking 183 00:17:08,404 --> 00:17:13,446 on behalf of everybody else besides you. No one gives a shit about this. No one cares if 184 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:16,947 they want to experience the Watchmen story. They're gonna read the graphic novel or they're 185 00:17:16,967 --> 00:17:20,328 gonna go watch Zack Snyder's version and if they want more than that they're gonna go watch 186 00:17:20,348 --> 00:17:25,669 the HBO television series. No one gives a shit about this. Except for people who haven't read 187 00:17:25,729 --> 00:17:31,143 the graphic novel. who maybe haven't seen the Zack Snyder film and maybe want more information 188 00:17:31,183 --> 00:17:38,405 behind the story that was the HBO Watchmen sequel series. So like two people. Burn. What? I'm 189 00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:43,046 sure it's more than two. You know what? And you also forget people like me who just legitimately 190 00:17:43,186 --> 00:17:47,427 like Watchmen and are totally down to watch this. I think people just need to get over 191 00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:52,768 Watchmen already. Like it was a thing. It was fine when it came out. It was fantastic even, 192 00:17:53,169 --> 00:17:58,803 but you know what? It's been adapted so many times now. Who cares? Who cares? Oh wow, someone 193 00:17:58,863 --> 00:18:06,510 sounds butthurt from a teaser trailer. What? Wow. It's just not necessary. It's just not 194 00:18:06,550 --> 00:18:11,494 necessary and I'm sick of Watchmen and people just need to move on. Well, you know, we are 195 00:18:11,514 --> 00:18:16,679 going to review it. So I'm sorry. I'll get you a hemorrhoid pillow for when you do it. Cause 196 00:18:16,919 --> 00:18:20,782 from all the butthurt that I'm sure will come out of the review, I will be looking forward 197 00:18:20,822 --> 00:18:26,542 to it. I'll get you some cream too. All right, cool it. If you haven't seen the trailer, I 198 00:18:26,583 --> 00:18:30,845 definitely recommend checking it out again. It's not long, looks really cool. And I'm curious 199 00:18:30,865 --> 00:18:35,409 to hear what you guys have to say about it. Tell Joseph how wrong he is. You're not going 200 00:18:35,429 --> 00:18:38,571 to get any feedback about what people think about this because they're not going to care 201 00:18:38,591 --> 00:18:41,993 enough to answer. It's fine. I can't wait till I get feedback. I'm going to screenshot it. 202 00:18:42,013 --> 00:18:45,716 I'm going to text it to you. You're not going to get feedback from anyone outside of discord. 203 00:18:45,756 --> 00:18:52,500 I'll say that. McGee is going to be the only one that messages you. Well, me and him will 204 00:18:52,540 --> 00:18:54,061 enjoy the movie then. All right. 205 00:19:01,038 --> 00:19:04,464 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and move into 206 00:19:04,504 --> 00:19:10,436 our main event where we find out who had went in a fight between the Outsiders member Geoforce 207 00:19:10,877 --> 00:19:12,841 and the Agent to Shield, Quake. 208 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:33,332 Alright, GeoForce vs Quake. This episode is in lead up to our upcoming team duel which 209 00:19:33,392 --> 00:19:39,014 pits the outsiders against X-Force. Now, a lot of the outsiders are kind of, I feel like, 210 00:19:39,314 --> 00:19:44,136 isolated within the DC universe, but they have played a prominent role within that team itself, 211 00:19:44,496 --> 00:19:49,718 GeoForce being one of them. Yeah, GeoForce is a major member of the outsiders. I would say 212 00:19:49,738 --> 00:19:54,700 he's probably the third most important after Batman and Black Lightning. He's actually led 213 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:01,335 the team on occasion. Has Quake led SHIELD? Yeah, she has in fact. She's been the director 214 00:20:01,355 --> 00:20:06,338 of shield so you thought you had something going there Well, has she been the queen of a country? 215 00:20:06,859 --> 00:20:11,001 Geoforce has been the queen of a country. He has been the king Wow I'm really interested 216 00:20:11,021 --> 00:20:15,403 in learning about this obviously both of these characters have the ability to generate seismic 217 00:20:15,463 --> 00:20:21,027 waves Geoforce can control rocks and quake can just kick all kinds of ass. If you guys have 218 00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:25,451 watched the Agents of SHIELD television show that was out a few years ago, you obviously 219 00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:30,055 know Quake. She was the main character of that series next to Agent Phil Coulson, and she 220 00:20:30,095 --> 00:20:34,999 was played by Chloe Bennett, and she was a fantastic character. She has really cool powers as well. 221 00:20:35,459 --> 00:20:40,964 And if you guys watched the Young Justice series, you'll know about GeoForce. All two dozen of 222 00:20:40,984 --> 00:20:45,027 you. Yeah, that's two dozen more than watched Agents of SHIELD. That's probably not true. 223 00:20:45,047 --> 00:20:49,915 Excuse you, Agents of SHIELD was a popular show. And it was a fantastic show too, for the most 224 00:20:49,955 --> 00:20:55,820 part, before season 5. It was good. I feel like you're trying to convince me. I don't need 225 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,605 you to be convinced, I just need you to be sorry when you lose this match. And I expect you 226 00:21:01,645 --> 00:21:09,191 to die. No. I don't know. But to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go with 227 00:21:09,231 --> 00:21:15,376 our sentient duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining 228 00:21:15,436 --> 00:21:20,228 a winner in our duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the 229 00:21:20,268 --> 00:21:25,152 contestants is by running 1,000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. 230 00:21:25,633 --> 00:21:30,057 A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random 231 00:21:30,117 --> 00:21:35,962 sampling. In this case, I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate 232 00:21:35,982 --> 00:21:40,586 the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official 233 00:21:40,626 --> 00:21:45,922 Marvel power grid from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat 234 00:21:45,962 --> 00:21:51,483 categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order 235 00:21:51,523 --> 00:21:56,945 to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide 236 00:21:56,965 --> 00:22:01,326 a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is declared 237 00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:06,647 the victor as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, 238 00:22:07,028 --> 00:22:11,829 neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's 239 00:22:11,969 --> 00:22:16,763 even a way for Batman to defeat Superman. So the confidence rate of my method falls in line 240 00:22:16,783 --> 00:22:21,385 with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations 241 00:22:21,425 --> 00:22:26,587 are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes 242 00:22:26,627 --> 00:22:32,590 tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, 243 00:22:32,610 --> 00:22:37,212 we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario 244 00:22:37,412 --> 00:22:42,254 on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe 245 00:22:42,314 --> 00:22:47,418 it's my turn to go first with the DC characters' backstory, so let me tell you about Geoforce. 246 00:22:48,099 --> 00:22:54,003 Now within the DC Comics universe nestled between Luxembourg, Belgium, and France, exists the 247 00:22:54,084 --> 00:23:00,208 small fictional country of Markovia, ruled by a monarchy until it was overthrown by the Nazis 248 00:23:00,249 --> 00:23:06,193 during World War II. When the Nazis were defeated, their occupation of Markovia ended, and the 249 00:23:06,253 --> 00:23:12,102 monarchy was restored, with its rightful king, Victor Markov, returned to the throne. King 250 00:23:12,202 --> 00:23:19,567 Markov ruled over Markovia and eventually sired two sons, Gregor and Brian, and an illegitimate 251 00:23:19,587 --> 00:23:25,030 daughter named Terra, who was raised in America to spare the throne any embarrassment. You 252 00:23:25,051 --> 00:23:31,415 can learn more about Terra in our Terra vs Avalanche duel episode. In a land consisting primarily 253 00:23:31,455 --> 00:23:37,939 of farmers and miners, Markovia had no superpowered champion to call their own, and in an effort 254 00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:43,239 to protect the country against any superpowered threats, as well as bolster the power of the 255 00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:50,125 royal family, Markovia's chief royal scientist, Dr. Helga Jace, began genetic research to find 256 00:23:50,265 --> 00:23:56,790 and trigger a potential metagene within the Markovs. After a successful experiment on Terra, 257 00:23:57,110 --> 00:24:02,655 which imbued her with geokinetic metahuman ability, the illegitimate princess was sent back to 258 00:24:02,715 --> 00:24:07,758 America, where she eventually teamed up with the villain Deathstroke to infiltrate the Teen 259 00:24:07,798 --> 00:24:13,160 Titans, which you can learn more about in our Titans vs. X-Men Team Duel episode. Meanwhile, 260 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:19,303 the former Nazi Baron Frederick de Lamm, who was instituted as Markovia's ruler by the Germans 261 00:24:19,403 --> 00:24:25,586 during its World War II occupation, also lived in exile from Markovia, conspiring to overthrow 262 00:24:25,626 --> 00:24:30,848 its monarchy and return to power, while also granting him access to a hidden vault within 263 00:24:30,888 --> 00:24:37,299 Castle Markov that contained a secret Nazi weapon. Under the nom de guerre of Baron Bedlam, he 264 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,961 hired mercenaries to secretly and successfully stage a violent revolution within Markovia, 265 00:24:43,361 --> 00:24:48,944 resulting in King Markov being fatally wounded. Prince Gregor assumed his father's throne, 266 00:24:49,204 --> 00:24:55,026 though he refused to undergo Dr. Helga Jace's metagenic experiment as he wasn't keen on becoming 267 00:24:55,286 --> 00:24:57,547 a quote-unquote freak like his sister 268 00:25:03,466 --> 00:25:08,989 His brother, Prince Brian, however, believed in Dr. Jace's research and agreed to undergo 269 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:14,814 her medelline procedure to help protect his country. A procedure that harnessed the energy 270 00:25:14,874 --> 00:25:20,838 of the planet itself, which Dr. Jace referred to as the Geo Force. The procedure was nearly 271 00:25:20,898 --> 00:25:26,422 interrupted by revolutionaries, however, and Brian was shot immediately upon its completion. 272 00:25:26,782 --> 00:25:32,094 Quickly buried alive in an unmarked grave to prevent him from becoming a martyr, Bryan's 273 00:25:32,174 --> 00:25:37,356 new powers drew healing strength from the ground, and he emerged from his grave only to find 274 00:25:37,416 --> 00:25:43,959 that Baron Bedlam had forced Dr. Jace to perform the Geo Force procedure on him as well, though 275 00:25:43,979 --> 00:25:49,962 she failed to inform him that his powers would be unstable and temporary as he wasn't of the 276 00:25:50,022 --> 00:25:56,925 royal bloodline of the Markovs. Alongside Batman, Black Lightning, Metamorpho, Halo, and Kitana, 277 00:25:57,474 --> 00:26:03,457 Prince Bryan was able to repel Baron Bedlam's invasion of Markovia, with the final duel between 278 00:26:03,517 --> 00:26:09,440 Bryan and Bedlam ending when Bedlam's powers disappeared just as he was levitating a giant 279 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,923 boulder over his head that he intended to crush Bryan with. With Baron Bedlam dead and peace 280 00:26:14,963 --> 00:26:20,366 restored to Markovia, Prince Bryan agreed to join the other heroes in Gotham City to form 281 00:26:20,486 --> 00:26:25,629 a new team known as the Outsiders. Not only as a way to show his gratitude for their help 282 00:26:25,689 --> 00:26:31,125 in saving his country, but also to train in the use of his new powers. Although initially 283 00:26:31,265 --> 00:26:37,170 unused to following orders, resulting in frequent conflicts with the team's leader, Batman, Brian, 284 00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:42,574 who took the codename Geoforce to hide his royal identity, reluctantly learned the value of 285 00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:47,539 teamwork. After learning that his half-sister, Tara, died while betraying the Teen Titans, 286 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:53,604 the heartbroken Brian found comfort in his teammate Halo's roommate, a woman named Denise Howard, 287 00:26:53,744 --> 00:26:59,028 while he attended Gotham University. While Geoforce adventured as a member of the Outsiders in 288 00:26:59,068 --> 00:27:07,035 Markovia, Baron Bedlam's corpse was discovered by an evil geneticist named Dr. Ovarny, aka, 289 00:27:07,716 --> 00:27:14,702 uh, Madame Ovary. After cloning Bedlam and restoring his memory, Bedlam had her also clone Hitler, 290 00:27:15,102 --> 00:27:20,907 as Bedlam needed his fingerprints to open the secret vault within Castle Markov. Bedlam orchestrated 291 00:27:21,028 --> 00:27:25,955 another coup on the Markovian monarchy. This time hiring a supervillain team known as the 292 00:27:25,995 --> 00:27:31,477 Masters of Disasters to aid him, and allying himself with the Soviet Union, which prevented 293 00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:35,599 the United States from getting involved, as they didn't want to escalate the situation 294 00:27:35,659 --> 00:27:41,541 into a world war. Though Batman tried to prevent the Outsiders from interfering, the team abandoned 295 00:27:41,581 --> 00:27:46,964 their leader once they learned that King Gregor's fiance, Princess Elona, had been kidnapped. 296 00:27:47,224 --> 00:27:52,462 Though Brian and the Outsiders were initially defeated by the Masters of Disaster, and imprisoned 297 00:27:52,602 --> 00:27:58,486 as Baron Bedlam gained access to the Nazi superweapon of a proton cloud generator, they eventually 298 00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:03,990 escaped and rescued the princess, culminating in Brian granting Bedlam the opportunity to 299 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:10,234 kill himself, only to be shot in the back instead and Brian decapitating Bedlam. After separating 300 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:15,598 themselves from Batman, the Outsiders team became funded by Markovia, and Brian was made the 301 00:28:15,638 --> 00:28:21,854 team leader. Not long after, however, King Gregor was assassinated. and Brian became the new 302 00:28:21,894 --> 00:28:27,578 king for a time, until it was discovered that Queen Ilona was pregnant. It was later revealed 303 00:28:27,638 --> 00:28:34,083 that his brother's murderer was none other than Dr. Helga Jace, who was in fact a sleeper agent 304 00:28:34,143 --> 00:28:38,566 of the Manhunter cult, and she accidentally killed herself while trying to destroy the 305 00:28:38,666 --> 00:28:44,110 outsiders. The team disbanded shortly after, and Brian lived with his girlfriend Denise 306 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:50,490 in Markovia for some time, until Brian was framed for killing Queen Ilona. While on the run with 307 00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:56,294 the reformed Outsiders team, Brian managed to clear his name and bring down Ilona's true 308 00:28:56,334 --> 00:29:02,558 killer, an evil vampire. Eventually, Brian married Denise and the two served as regents until 309 00:29:02,598 --> 00:29:08,042 his nephew came of age to take the throne as King of Markovia. After joining the Justice 310 00:29:08,082 --> 00:29:14,407 League for a time, Brian left the team to rejoin the Outsiders, during which time he faced Deathstroke 311 00:29:14,527 --> 00:29:19,494 for what he had done to his sister, Tara, and the two nearly killed each other. learn more 312 00:29:19,534 --> 00:29:25,359 about Deathstroke in his duel against Deadpool. In post-Flashpoint continuity, Prince Bryan 313 00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:30,724 was the ruler of Markovia, and the origin of his powers remained largely the same. When 314 00:29:30,744 --> 00:29:35,508 the country of Markovia was destroyed by the League of Assassins and the Seeker Society 315 00:29:35,548 --> 00:29:41,013 of Super-Villains, Bryan vowed revenge against both organizations by assassinating Grassal 316 00:29:41,033 --> 00:29:47,634 Ghul and injuring his daughter Talia while disguised as Deathstroke. His actions resulted in an 317 00:29:47,734 --> 00:29:53,396 underworld shadow war that drew in Batman and culminated with a showdown between Talia and 318 00:29:53,516 --> 00:29:59,517 Deathstroke, at which point Bryan revealed he was responsible for everything. Batman's son 319 00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:05,139 Damien, who you can learn more about in our Robin vs. Patriot episode, subsequently defeated 320 00:30:05,179 --> 00:30:09,660 Bryan single-handedly, and Bryan was arrested for killing Ra's al Ghul. 321 00:30:14,902 --> 00:30:20,585 allowing him to generate gravitational fields that can make objects heavier or lighter, in 322 00:30:20,625 --> 00:30:26,328 effect giving him increased durability and strength. He also possesses geokinesis, allowing him 323 00:30:26,368 --> 00:30:31,991 to levitate, move, and shape the Earth around him as well as lava, which he could also shoot 324 00:30:32,011 --> 00:30:39,235 from his hands as beams of molten rock, flames, or waves of heat. Combining gravity manipulation 325 00:30:39,355 --> 00:30:45,058 with heat propulsion allows Geoforce to fly at fast speeds. though for short periods of 326 00:30:45,118 --> 00:30:50,463 time, as his powers diminish the longer he's out of contact with the ground. When underground, 327 00:30:50,743 --> 00:30:57,529 he can heal his wounds and survive without food or air. Lastly, he is also a skilled hand-to-hand 328 00:30:57,569 --> 00:31:06,336 combatant. That is Geoforce. Madame Ovary, really? You know, I'm not proud of it. Somebody in 329 00:31:06,396 --> 00:31:11,019 the comic book writing bullpen was just out of ideas that day. It kind of seems like they 330 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:16,067 wanted to see if they could get away with it, and they did. And that's a shame. It is a shame. 331 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:20,691 But to help us move past that atrocious writing, let's go ahead and get into the backstory of 332 00:31:20,972 --> 00:31:27,758 Quake. Now Daisy Johnson was born in New Orleans, Louisiana to Calvin Zobbo and Kim Johnson. 333 00:31:28,138 --> 00:31:34,103 Her father, Calvin, was an Avengers villain, also known as Mr. Hyde, who, prior to Daisy's 334 00:31:34,143 --> 00:31:39,007 birth, had developed a serum known as the Hyde formula that could drastically enhance his 335 00:31:39,088 --> 00:31:43,691 body mass and strength within seconds. though it came with the side effect of making him 336 00:31:43,731 --> 00:31:50,075 prone to savage anger. In the process of developing the Hyde formula, Calvin had performed numerous 337 00:31:50,135 --> 00:31:57,140 experiments on himself, inadvertently altering his own DNA. Daisy's mother, Kim, was an inhuman 338 00:31:57,180 --> 00:32:02,544 prostitute who Calvin frequented, and who gave Daisy up for adoption immediately after her 339 00:32:02,584 --> 00:32:08,408 birth. Daisy was taken in by foster parents who named her Cory Stutter, and though Daisy 340 00:32:08,428 --> 00:32:15,762 showed her troubled nature resulted in her dropping out of high school to fend for herself. While 341 00:32:15,782 --> 00:32:20,866 committing an act of theft, Daisy's power suddenly manifested and she discovered she could generate 342 00:32:20,966 --> 00:32:25,911 seismic vibrations when anxious. She was unable to control these new abilities and was soon 343 00:32:25,951 --> 00:32:30,835 discovered by the International Peacekeeping and Espionage Organization, known as SHIELD. 344 00:32:31,296 --> 00:32:36,420 Though they initially believed Daisy was a mutant, SHIELD later discovered that due to her father's 345 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,852 genetic experimentation, Daisy's inhuman powers were able to manifest without the need for 346 00:32:41,912 --> 00:32:47,456 Terragen, a substance used by the inhuman race to trigger their latent abilities. You can 347 00:32:47,476 --> 00:32:53,200 learn more about Inhumans and Terragenesis in our Shazam vs. Black Bolt duel episode. Nick 348 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,503 Fury, the director of SHIELD, took notice of Daisy's potential and had her train with SHIELD 349 00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:03,967 to become an agent. She excelled at the organization and quickly rose through the ranks, honing 350 00:33:03,987 --> 00:33:08,642 her abilities and completing numerous successful field missions. often partnered with SHIELD 351 00:33:08,742 --> 00:33:14,385 agent Phil Coulson. Eventually, Daisy went on to become one of Nick Fury's most trusted operatives, 352 00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:19,909 taking on the codename Quake, and getting level 10 security clearance, the only other field 353 00:33:20,009 --> 00:33:25,452 agent beside Black Widow to ever do so. Daisy was tasked with her biggest, most secretive 354 00:33:25,492 --> 00:33:30,495 mission yet when Nick Fury asked her to accompany heroes such as Captain America, Black Widow, 355 00:33:30,995 --> 00:33:37,287 Daredevil, Spider-Man, Luke Cage, and Wolverine in a top secret coup of the nation of Latveria. 356 00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:43,773 At the time, Latveria's monarch, Dr. Doom, was trapped in hell due to dark bargains he had 357 00:33:43,833 --> 00:33:50,120 made earlier. Latveria's new prime minister, named Lucia von Bardis, was covertly funding 358 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:56,065 America's supervillains as a way to wreak terror on American soil. Nick Fury found evidence 359 00:33:56,085 --> 00:34:00,770 of this, though the government administration at the time refused to act on the intel. Nick 360 00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:05,434 Fury found his hand forced and took his secret recruitment of heroes to Latveria, including 361 00:34:05,474 --> 00:34:11,900 Daisy, to quietly take Lucia von Bardis out. However, one year later, von Bardis returned 362 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,045 as a cyborg with a cybernetic army to enact revenge against the heroes involved in Fury's 363 00:34:17,105 --> 00:34:22,570 operation. Daisy and the others fought to disable a bomb that von Bardis used to try and destroy 364 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:28,303 New York City, and Daisy herself destroyed the cyborg threat. You can learn more about Liberia 365 00:34:28,443 --> 00:34:33,327 and Doctor Doom in his duel against Superman, and more about Nick Fury in his duel against 366 00:34:33,467 --> 00:34:38,732 Rick Flag. When Nick Fury's Liberian coup came to light, he was ousted from S.H.I.E.L.D. and 367 00:34:38,772 --> 00:34:45,158 replaced by new director Maria Hill, who removed Daisy from duty. Although inactive, Daisy helped 368 00:34:45,178 --> 00:34:50,443 the X-Men fight Magneto on the island of Genosha, where she proved instrumental in knocking the 369 00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:56,038 villain unconscious by inducing vibrations in his brain. Not long after, Nick Fury returned 370 00:34:56,098 --> 00:35:01,800 to draft Daisy into his covert team of secret warriors to fight clandestine threats. This 371 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,081 included the secret invasion of alien Skrulls on Earth and stopping secret cells of the evil 372 00:35:07,121 --> 00:35:12,423 organization Hydra around the world. After the Skrulls defeat and the dissolution of SHIELD, 373 00:35:12,903 --> 00:35:18,104 Daisy was drafted into the Avengers and was tasked with spying on Norman Osborn, who had 374 00:35:18,144 --> 00:35:19,705 taken advantage of the SHIELD power 375 00:35:22,874 --> 00:35:28,438 and the Dark Avengers. Captain America ended up reactivating SHIELD and appointed Daisy 376 00:35:28,799 --> 00:35:34,463 as its new director, where she was now in charge of the entire operation. However, her decision 377 00:35:34,483 --> 00:35:38,667 to assassinate the leader of the scientific criminal organization AIM led to her being 378 00:35:38,707 --> 00:35:44,111 demoted and replaced as SHIELD director by Maria Hill. You can learn more about the Avengers 379 00:35:44,231 --> 00:35:48,935 in their duel episode against the Justice League. Back as a SHIELD agent, Daisy went on a mission 380 00:35:48,975 --> 00:35:54,526 to locate and retrieve her father, Mr. Hyde. She sought his help in fixing her powers, which 381 00:35:54,566 --> 00:35:59,287 had begun to take their toll on her body, causing her bones to splinter and sometimes shatter. 382 00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:03,989 Feeling affection for his daughter, Mr. Hyde was able to cure her, but then tried to inject 383 00:36:04,009 --> 00:36:08,870 her with his Hyde formula, claiming that it would protect her. Agent Phil Coulson took 384 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:14,172 the injection instead in an effort to spare Daisy, and he and Mr. Hyde fought, giving Daisy 385 00:36:14,212 --> 00:36:19,293 enough time to use her restored powers to create a fissure in the ground that swallowed her 386 00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:25,120 father whole. And that's her backstory. Powers-wise, Quake is an inhuman with the innate ability 387 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,143 to generate seismic vibrations, the magnitude of which she can control via a pair of gauntlets 388 00:36:30,163 --> 00:36:35,287 she wears on her wrists. Her vibrations can be so powerful and widespread as to create 389 00:36:35,327 --> 00:36:40,451 a massive earthquake that topples buildings or so small and targeted as to explode the 390 00:36:40,491 --> 00:36:46,035 heart in someone's chest. The vibrations can be forceful enough to shatter objects or delicate 391 00:36:46,075 --> 00:36:51,798 enough to render someone unconscious. As an inhuman, Quake has innately enhanced physicality, 392 00:36:52,099 --> 00:36:57,741 including greater reflexes, durability, and strength than any human athlete. She is a highly 393 00:36:57,781 --> 00:37:03,944 trained fighter taught by Nick Fury and Shield, an elite spy, and an intelligent strategist. 394 00:37:04,344 --> 00:37:09,166 And that's Quake. So what you're basically saying is that anything Quake can do, Geoforce can 395 00:37:09,186 --> 00:37:14,348 do, and then some. Can he shatter the heart in someone's chest? I mean, yeah, by putting 396 00:37:14,388 --> 00:37:17,389 his fist through it. Okay, all right, okay. 397 00:37:24,334 --> 00:37:30,021 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 398 00:37:30,041 --> 00:37:35,769 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 399 00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:41,516 DynaMic Podcast Network presents Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. 400 00:37:41,536 --> 00:37:48,205 DynaMic Podcast Network Comic Book Titans smash every Tuesday, Max Destruction, where TV and 401 00:37:48,305 --> 00:37:54,609 action heroes battle every Wednesday, and Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. 402 00:37:55,129 --> 00:38:00,132 Join us as we speculate on the matches and, armed with the power of mathematical simulations, 403 00:38:00,373 --> 00:38:07,277 discover who will emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com where we settle the debate and settle the score. 404 00:38:11,575 --> 00:38:15,537 Well now that we got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one 405 00:38:15,557 --> 00:38:21,061 of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not the speculation, 406 00:38:21,221 --> 00:38:26,485 but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? 407 00:38:27,385 --> 00:38:31,388 Well I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge 408 00:38:31,408 --> 00:38:35,811 of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other 409 00:38:35,831 --> 00:38:40,658 character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation... The contestants will 410 00:38:40,678 --> 00:38:46,022 begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that will have no bearing on the 411 00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:51,386 match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants 412 00:38:51,446 --> 00:38:57,391 must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's get into it. Geoforce and Quake 413 00:38:57,491 --> 00:39:03,996 meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? Well, Quake is an inhuman, so she has greater reflexes, 414 00:39:04,156 --> 00:39:09,198 slightly. I'm going to say that she goes first. and she's just gonna let rip a wide blast of 415 00:39:09,278 --> 00:39:14,320 seismic vibrations from her hands that just tear across the ground and slam into Geoforce, 416 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,761 sending him flying backward onto the floor. Okay, Geoforce, you know, he was caught off 417 00:39:19,781 --> 00:39:25,483 guard by the attack, but he's gonna land gently on the ground thanks to his manipulation of 418 00:39:25,523 --> 00:39:31,244 gravity, and once he does, he quickly opens up a fissure beneath Quake that just sprays 419 00:39:31,284 --> 00:39:37,402 her with hot lava. No, cause Quake will see the fissure opening up beneath her. and she's 420 00:39:37,422 --> 00:39:43,605 gonna shoot her vibrations down into the fissure and the lava below her, keeping the lava from 421 00:39:43,965 --> 00:39:49,587 boiling up and spilling out, and the downward blast is just gonna propel her away from the 422 00:39:49,627 --> 00:39:55,950 fissure, and when the lava does come out of it, she's gonna use her vibrations to guide 423 00:39:55,990 --> 00:40:02,052 the lava across the battlefield like this lava wave that's just gonna fall on top of GeoForce 424 00:40:02,072 --> 00:40:08,455 and just scald the shit out of them. through lava and like shoots it out of his hands. What? 425 00:40:08,475 --> 00:40:13,478 He's not gonna be hurt by it. All right. So instead of getting scalded, he's just gonna 426 00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:19,761 blast that wave coming at him with a torrent of his own lava that then crashes right into 427 00:40:19,841 --> 00:40:27,366 Quake. So now she's burned up. No, cause Quake's gonna shake the ground beneath her and cause 428 00:40:27,506 --> 00:40:33,109 a convergence so that this giant piece of land just juts up right in front of her. And she 429 00:40:33,169 --> 00:40:38,210 uses that as a shield. So the lava never reaches her. Quake is gonna blast herself into the 430 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:43,052 air again, sending herself over to GeoForce, and she crash lands right on top of him, legs 431 00:40:43,072 --> 00:40:48,313 first, where she does the, you know, like the Black Widow, Lucha Libra style flip, and she 432 00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:54,575 just flips him onto the ground, onto his back. Okay, so as she was about to land on him, suddenly 433 00:40:54,615 --> 00:40:59,096 though, she's just floating in the air, right above him, because he nullified the gravity 434 00:40:59,136 --> 00:41:05,590 around her so that she can't land. So now she's just trapped in the air. and he's gonna summon 435 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:11,872 a giant fist made of rock to shoot up from the ground beneath her and just uppercut her right 436 00:41:11,912 --> 00:41:17,993 into the sky. No, because as she's stuck in midair with this stone fist beneath her, she's 437 00:41:18,013 --> 00:41:24,555 gonna like force blast karate chop this giant fist in half as it rises up and the shock waves 438 00:41:24,575 --> 00:41:29,596 that she generates to break the stone fist in half also shakes the ground beneath Geoforce 439 00:41:30,056 --> 00:41:35,402 and that causes him to lose his concentration so he drops her. And her gravity is restored 440 00:41:35,862 --> 00:41:42,064 and she lands on the ground next to Geoforce and just leg sweeps him. Okay, but as Geoforce 441 00:41:42,124 --> 00:41:48,126 is falling, he's gonna increase his gravity so that he actually slams into the ground hard 442 00:41:48,166 --> 00:41:54,567 enough to generate this massive crater that Quake is also gonna fall into. And at the bottom 443 00:41:54,587 --> 00:42:00,529 of this deep crater, Geoforce is gonna levitate all of the rock shrapnel that's all around 444 00:42:00,549 --> 00:42:06,204 them and he's just gonna- send it flying at Quake, just pummeling her with it, not stop, 445 00:42:06,544 --> 00:42:10,807 essentially stoning her to death. Now, Quake is just gonna disintegrate all these stones 446 00:42:10,867 --> 00:42:16,231 flying at her one by one. You know, they just turn into dust. And she's just like really 447 00:42:16,251 --> 00:42:21,875 annoyed by this point, you know, just dealing with GeoForce. So she continues by disintegrating 448 00:42:22,035 --> 00:42:31,201 GeoForce's nuts, turning those into powder. No! And he's like, oh my God, my nuts! Oh no. 449 00:42:31,221 --> 00:42:37,889 Okay. Uh, so Joe Force, you know, he's gonna drop instantly to the ground. Yeah. And, uh, 450 00:42:37,929 --> 00:42:42,612 actually he's going to like drop into the ground. It's just going to envelop him and bury him 451 00:42:43,152 --> 00:42:50,657 and underground. He's able to rapidly heal and regenerate his balls. What? Quick. She's going 452 00:42:50,677 --> 00:42:55,480 to be busy trying to climb out of this giant crater that he created, but it's too fucking 453 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,716 late. It's super volcano time, right? So this is basically a huge lava bomb that just decimates 454 00:43:02,096 --> 00:43:08,139 everything around it for miles. No way she could escape in time. So she dead. I don't think 455 00:43:08,179 --> 00:43:14,503 so. I mean, if GeoForce is busy hiding like a punk ass deep underground, that's also Quake's 456 00:43:14,543 --> 00:43:20,306 domain. Quake is gonna shake the ground beneath her so hard that it pummeled GeoForce to death. 457 00:43:20,366 --> 00:43:24,668 Just like he's gonna get rattled around down there and his body's gonna get crushed into 458 00:43:24,689 --> 00:43:29,996 pieces. That's match over. Dude, she doesn't know where underground he was. All she has 459 00:43:30,016 --> 00:43:34,398 to do is aim down. She just shakes all the ground beneath her. He's somewhere down there. That's 460 00:43:34,418 --> 00:43:39,542 where he dies. Okay, I mean, that's probably a good place to leave off the match. Either 461 00:43:40,102 --> 00:43:49,268 Quake gets decimated in a super volcanic eruption or GeoForce gets essentially flattened by an 462 00:43:49,348 --> 00:43:53,331 earthquake while he's busy healing underground. We'll go ahead and leave the match there. We'll 463 00:43:53,351 --> 00:43:59,115 input the character stats, run a thousand simulations and come back with a winner. AG9K, hit it. 464 00:43:59,675 --> 00:44:07,021 Inputting data, running calculations, processing results, simulations complete. Okay, so stat 465 00:44:07,041 --> 00:44:13,826 wise, this was a horrible matchup. Well, I thought it would kind of turn out the same way as Terra 466 00:44:13,846 --> 00:44:19,462 versus Avalanche, but there were a lot of notable differences between Avalanche and. Quake. As 467 00:44:19,502 --> 00:44:24,703 well as some notable differences between Terra and GeoForce, surprisingly. Yeah, GeoForce 468 00:44:24,883 --> 00:44:30,125 not only has all the abilities of Terra, but he also has the added benefit of being able 469 00:44:30,145 --> 00:44:35,927 to control lava and heat and gravity as well. Yeah, which is pretty dumb. I mean, Quake is 470 00:44:35,947 --> 00:44:40,528 a powerhouse. Both of these guys are, you know, off the charts in terms of damage level and 471 00:44:40,568 --> 00:44:43,969 the amount of destruction that they're able to cause. They're both pretty comparable when 472 00:44:44,009 --> 00:44:48,972 it comes to things, you know, like... fighting skill, evasiveness, range. We said GeoForce 473 00:44:48,992 --> 00:44:53,695 had the edge though when it came to things like perception. Because he could sense things underground. 474 00:44:54,135 --> 00:44:58,759 Yeah, and durability, because I guess he can increase his own personal mass by increasing 475 00:44:58,819 --> 00:45:03,362 his gravity. Right, we also said he had the edge when it came to versatility and when it 476 00:45:03,382 --> 00:45:08,886 came to speed because he could rocket himself pretty fast through the air. Well, Quake is 477 00:45:08,906 --> 00:45:15,074 an inhuman and she can run really fast. So, considering all of the stats, Joseph. Who do 478 00:45:15,094 --> 00:45:21,517 you think came out on top? Quake. You are lying to yourself. No, do not lie to yourself. I 479 00:45:21,557 --> 00:45:26,520 have my reasons. Oh yeah, what are they? Their personal reasons. Okay, well what did the Instagram 480 00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:31,843 poll say? I don't fucking know. What are you doing? 58% of the people on Instagram who took 481 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:36,725 the poll said that Geoforce would take this, which is surprising to me because I feel like 482 00:45:36,765 --> 00:45:41,808 Quake is fairly well known, especially among people who watched Agents of Shield. Everybody 483 00:45:41,828 --> 00:45:46,618 knows, you know, Chloe Bennett, right? And Quake. They know she's hot, but they don't know that 484 00:45:46,678 --> 00:45:52,720 Quake can be GeoForce because she can't. At least I'm pretty confident she can't. Let's 485 00:45:52,760 --> 00:46:01,562 find out. AJ9K, the results please. Hey Yuasa. The winner of the matchup between GeoForce 486 00:46:02,142 --> 00:46:11,085 and Quake is... GeoForce! Obviously! What do you mean obviously? I mean obviously! He won 487 00:46:11,285 --> 00:46:23,710 82.4% of the 1000 matches. or 824 of those compared to Quake, who only won 176 or 17.6%. This is 488 00:46:23,770 --> 00:46:29,535 one of the most lopsided matches we've ever done, and you my friend I think have just received 489 00:46:29,575 --> 00:46:35,861 a rude awakening about not only the popularity of Quake, but also the power of Quake. Yeah, 490 00:46:35,881 --> 00:46:43,290 she's super powerful. At sucking and losing. You know... Those kind of results just signify 491 00:46:43,330 --> 00:46:48,292 that maybe this wasn't the best matchup. Which is strange because, you know, Avalanche vs. 492 00:46:48,312 --> 00:46:53,293 Terra wasn't that bad of a matchup. I know that when the executive producers were helping us 493 00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:58,775 develop this match, we had also considered other characters besides Quake, including Magma, 494 00:46:58,915 --> 00:47:03,557 because she could control lava and rock as well, as well as Richter, who is kind of a similar 495 00:47:03,597 --> 00:47:08,099 character to Avalanche. But we ended up going with Quake. because she's popular, because 496 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,241 she's a badass, and because she can use her seismic abilities in a variety of ways. Probably 497 00:47:12,261 --> 00:47:16,825 should have gone with Magma. Magma would have been a great match, for sure. But I feel like 498 00:47:17,265 --> 00:47:21,648 these results would be different because I think every time Geoforce would just get his heart 499 00:47:21,708 --> 00:47:27,832 exploded and or nuts every time. There's no instance of any battle between these two where 500 00:47:27,932 --> 00:47:31,495 one of those things doesn't happen. Yeah, how's that gonna happen when she's too busy being 501 00:47:31,575 --> 00:47:37,636 burned alive in lava? She'll get over it, it's fine. Sure. Sure she will. Clearly she won't. 502 00:47:38,096 --> 00:47:44,643 Clearly Geoforce wins. Cause Geoforce is awesome. Have fun taking Kimon again in our team duel 503 00:47:44,723 --> 00:47:50,229 between the Outsiders and X-Force. Oh I can't wait to. I can't wait to. Can't wait to lose? 504 00:47:50,449 --> 00:47:57,446 I bet. But that does it for this duel. AG9K help close this out. Thanks for listening to 505 00:47:57,506 --> 00:48:04,408 Dynamic duel. Visit the show's website at dynamicduel.com and follow us on Instagram at dynamicduelpodcast. 506 00:48:04,868 --> 00:48:10,189 You can support the show on Patreon at patreon.com slash dynamicduel and joining a tier that works 507 00:48:10,209 --> 00:48:15,591 for you, or by rating and reviewing Dynamic duel on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser 508 00:48:15,891 --> 00:48:20,392 or on our website. Don't forget to listen to the other shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network, 509 00:48:20,812 --> 00:48:27,479 including Max Destruction, Senjow World and Console Combat. In our next episode, it's going 510 00:48:27,499 --> 00:48:31,502 to be another duel episode that will be a tie-in to our upcoming team duel. Next week, we're 511 00:48:31,522 --> 00:48:37,247 going to find out who would win in a fight between Halo, who is an outsider's character, against 512 00:48:37,387 --> 00:48:42,791 Power Pack, who is a group of superhero kids who were pretty popular with Marvel back in 513 00:48:42,811 --> 00:48:47,014 the day. I think their popularity has waned a little bit, but they're pretty interesting, 514 00:48:47,355 --> 00:48:51,866 cool characters. Yeah, I don't know really anything about them. I- Just know that this will be 515 00:48:51,906 --> 00:48:57,628 the first time where you have a group of characters that goes up against one of my characters in 516 00:48:57,648 --> 00:49:03,009 a similar way where the metal man went up against Colossus in that duel episode. Right, right. 517 00:49:03,029 --> 00:49:08,091 We'll figure out how to do the stats when the time comes. That's future us's problem. But 518 00:49:08,111 --> 00:49:11,772 that does it for this episode, we want to give a big thanks to our executive producers Ken 519 00:49:11,812 --> 00:49:16,534 Johnson, John Sturowski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcombe, Mickey Mantengian, and Brandon Estergard, 520 00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:22,718 Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Austin Wasylowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam 521 00:49:22,738 --> 00:49:29,122 Spies, Andrew Schunk, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis, and Joseph Kirsting for helping make this podcast 522 00:49:29,162 --> 00:49:34,625 possible. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. I think I win 523 00:49:34,765 --> 00:49:37,007 because paper beats rock and I got that paper baby.