1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,957 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,822 --> 00:00:30,164 Dynamic duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority 3 00:00:30,204 --> 00:00:35,466 between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny 4 00:00:35,486 --> 00:00:41,068 DC. And I'm his twin brother, Marvelous Joe. And in this episode, we were supposed to be 5 00:00:41,128 --> 00:00:48,471 reviewing Hulk vs. but Marvel sucks and that's impossible to find on any streaming platform. 6 00:00:48,812 --> 00:00:54,702 So we're changing it up. Instead, we will be doing a review of Green Lantern. first flight 7 00:00:55,162 --> 00:01:00,543 a probably superior film even though I've never seen Hulk vs. Well, yeah, I was so surprised 8 00:01:00,563 --> 00:01:06,145 that I couldn't find Hulk vs. anywhere to stream that wasn't like a skeezy torrent or streaming 9 00:01:06,205 --> 00:01:11,386 site. You know, the only way you can watch Hulk vs. right now legally is by buying the Blu-ray 10 00:01:11,406 --> 00:01:17,328 or DVD, which I'm not going to do because I no longer have a Blu-ray or DVD player streaming 11 00:01:17,388 --> 00:01:21,209 all the way. Same here, but that's probably toward detriment in cases like this. But it's 12 00:01:21,269 --> 00:01:25,550 also not like, you know, The Hulk vs DVD is easy to buy, you just can't go to a store, 13 00:01:25,570 --> 00:01:29,952 you have to like order it from Amazon or something and have it delivered. I guarantee you it's 14 00:01:30,012 --> 00:01:35,713 in the DVD bin of my local Dollar General. I guarantee you, no one cares that much about 15 00:01:35,773 --> 00:01:40,435 it. Our executive producers cared, but I think Green Lantern First Flight is an appropriate 16 00:01:40,455 --> 00:01:46,116 substitute considering next week's episode is going to be Juggernaut vs Atrocitus. Atrocitus 17 00:01:46,136 --> 00:01:49,857 is a Green Lantern villain, so this episode ties into that. Yeah, that's going to be a 18 00:01:49,897 --> 00:01:54,338 fun episode. This film is actually pretty fun and we'll talk all about it later on in this 19 00:01:54,378 --> 00:01:58,300 episode. Before that we're gonna break down the comic movie news from the past week of 20 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,921 which it's all DC news because Marvel's not doing shit right now. Oh we got Deadpool and 21 00:02:03,941 --> 00:02:07,962 Wolverine coming up in a few weeks so yeah we got a lot going on. We're gonna talk about 22 00:02:08,062 --> 00:02:13,044 Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl being revealed in Superman set photos. We're gonna be talking about the 23 00:02:13,104 --> 00:02:18,405 Batman Ninja vs Yakuza League teaser trailer and we're gonna be talking about the Kite Man 24 00:02:18,465 --> 00:02:23,427 Hell Yeah official trailer. 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Also tune 39 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,703 into the Send Your World podcast, where host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between 40 00:03:43,763 --> 00:03:49,491 fan favorite anime and manga characters. The show is still on its season hiatus, but it's 41 00:03:49,531 --> 00:03:54,974 coming back soon. So this is the perfect time to catch up on its 40 episode library. And 42 00:03:55,014 --> 00:03:59,517 finally, on the console combat podcast hosts, John and Dean find out who would win in fights 43 00:03:59,537 --> 00:04:05,601 between popular video game characters. In yesterday's episode, they reviewed the 90s Mortal Kombat 44 00:04:05,641 --> 00:04:11,004 movie. So if you have nostalgia for that, definitely check that out. Visit dynamic podcasts dot 45 00:04:11,024 --> 00:04:15,962 com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows. in the DynaMic Podcast 46 00:04:16,022 --> 00:04:22,664 Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel 47 00:04:22,724 --> 00:04:27,386 used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on 48 00:04:27,486 --> 00:04:32,427 Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last 49 00:04:32,487 --> 00:04:37,649 week, we asked you guys, who do you think is the mysterious man in black in the Superman 50 00:04:37,709 --> 00:04:42,315 set photos and why? And this is coming off of the Superman movie that's currently filming, 51 00:04:42,476 --> 00:04:45,918 and we got a look at a mysterious character all dressed in black, and thought it would 52 00:04:45,938 --> 00:04:49,841 be fun for you guys to speculate on who it might be. Yeah, we got quite a few answers. We're 53 00:04:49,861 --> 00:04:54,644 going to break down this week's honorable mentions before revealing the no-prize winner. Our first 54 00:04:54,684 --> 00:05:01,509 honorable mention goes to Alex Albro, who said, Hey guys, it's Alex. I think the mysterious 55 00:05:01,549 --> 00:05:06,872 man in black on the Superman set is really just the character of Neil Quinn, aka Ulythes, who 56 00:05:06,892 --> 00:05:10,802 has some energy transference powers. Something about the last son of Earth and it's a whole 57 00:05:10,822 --> 00:05:15,405 big metaphor for Superman being the last son of Krypton and they're gonna fight. And he's 58 00:05:15,445 --> 00:05:20,628 just one of seemingly three enemies Superman's gonna have to face in this film. Thanks. Bye. 59 00:05:20,648 --> 00:05:25,951 Yeah, so Ulysses is a fairly recent character in the Superman comics. He gets his powers 60 00:05:25,991 --> 00:05:31,214 from the fourth dimension and he essentially has the same powers as Superman. What makes 61 00:05:31,274 --> 00:05:37,417 this answer possible is that he, like the character that was seen in the set photos, has a U on 62 00:05:37,457 --> 00:05:43,385 his costume. Yeah, and it's a black costume in the comics too. So this could be it. I don't 63 00:05:43,405 --> 00:05:48,449 know much about the character. I would be kind of surprised if they were to introduce a character 64 00:05:48,509 --> 00:05:54,653 that obscure into the Superman film, but you never know. The guy is wearing a mask. It could 65 00:05:54,733 --> 00:05:59,997 literally be anybody. And this is as good a guess as any. So great answer, Alex. Our next 66 00:06:00,037 --> 00:06:05,101 honorable mention goes to Buster Barnes. Who said? Hi guys, Buster Barnes here. Hope you're 67 00:06:05,141 --> 00:06:09,547 doing well. I think the villain in the black outfit is going to be called Ultraman, however 68 00:06:09,587 --> 00:06:14,129 not the usual iteration that we expect. Instead, I think it's going to be more like Superman 69 00:06:14,449 --> 00:06:19,231 from the Red Sun movie where he is a clone created by Lex Luthor and or the government in which 70 00:06:19,271 --> 00:06:24,333 he's going to be sent out to take down or potentially frame Superman. And then he is going to eventually 71 00:06:24,373 --> 00:06:29,736 deteriorate into a bizarro-like villain for Superman's fight. Take care, guys. Love the 72 00:06:29,756 --> 00:06:34,902 show. Right. So Buster is saying that the U probably stands for Ultraman. If you've listened 73 00:06:34,922 --> 00:06:41,143 to the podcast a few months ago, we did a duel episode between Ultraman and Hyperion, so you'll 74 00:06:41,163 --> 00:06:45,665 know all about him. Yeah, and if you've read the Red Sun miniseries or watched the Red Sun 75 00:06:45,825 --> 00:06:50,466 animated movie adaptation, you'll know that there is a character in that story that's kind 76 00:06:50,486 --> 00:06:55,568 of like an amalgam of Ultraman and Bizarro. Basically a clone that Lex Luthor created to 77 00:06:55,588 --> 00:07:00,569 go up against the Russian version of Superman. So of course the speculation is that the masked 78 00:07:00,649 --> 00:07:06,487 figure with the U on his chest is an evil version of Superman, which could make sense because 79 00:07:06,947 --> 00:07:12,448 Lex Luthor is the one who created Superior Man in the comics, and he also created Bizarro 80 00:07:12,468 --> 00:07:17,550 in the comics as well. And since Lex Luthor is in the movie, why not have him create an 81 00:07:17,710 --> 00:07:23,712 evil Superman clone, who he would call Ultraman? Great answer Buster, our final honorable mention 82 00:07:23,772 --> 00:07:30,622 goes to Jacob Foster, who said, What if it's unknown soldier? I mean, He was based back 83 00:07:30,722 --> 00:07:35,466 out in World War II, Creature Commandos were back in World War II. James Gunn even said 84 00:07:35,506 --> 00:07:41,110 Creature Commandos was the start of the DC, of his universe at least. Rick Clark Sr. is 85 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:46,894 in Creature Commandos, Rick Clark Sr. is in Superman. I wanna say that it's a re-adaptation 86 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:53,486 kind of the Unknown Soldier, like just a little bit of a costume change. The Unknown Soldier 87 00:07:53,647 --> 00:07:59,131 is a character in DC Comics who was essentially a World War II veteran who suffers from amnesia 88 00:07:59,151 --> 00:08:04,796 and no longer remembers who he is. He does wear a full face mask and is a master of disguise. 89 00:08:05,036 --> 00:08:09,420 Of course all of the set photos that we've seen this mysterious figure in has him associated 90 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,804 with the military, which could mean that yeah, maybe he's the Unknown Soldier. Just like a 91 00:08:14,884 --> 00:08:19,348 modern take on the character. Yeah, I'm not sure I follow Jacob's line of reasoning that 92 00:08:19,368 --> 00:08:24,971 just because Rick Flagg is in the creature commandos and this movie. That means that this guy could 93 00:08:24,991 --> 00:08:29,212 be unknown soldier because he was also in World War two with the creature commandos. But why 94 00:08:29,252 --> 00:08:34,093 not? Sure. It could all work out that way. We want to give a quick shout out to Brandon Estregard 95 00:08:34,233 --> 00:08:38,774 and Daniel Alonso, who also called in with their answers. Thank you guys so much for taking 96 00:08:38,814 --> 00:08:43,976 the time to do that. Daniel, your suggestion that it was Night Monkey is, I think, spot 97 00:08:44,116 --> 00:08:52,326 on. But the winner of this week's no prize is Hey what's up guys it's Miggy and I think the 98 00:08:52,366 --> 00:08:59,510 guy in the stuff photos isn't Ultraman or Ulysses like people are thinking because it's kind 99 00:08:59,530 --> 00:09:05,694 of weird to have another reverse Superman and Gunn has said that it's not a big spoiler that 100 00:09:05,734 --> 00:09:11,337 he's been filming out in public so I think it's an Ultramarine core, a super obscure character 101 00:09:11,397 --> 00:09:16,500 just another like military henchman type. Also pretty excited about the terrifics in the first 102 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:22,118 look of Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner. Thanks guys. So the Ultramarine Corps was actually a super 103 00:09:22,158 --> 00:09:28,641 team, not a specific character within DC Comics that was put together by General Wade Eiling. 104 00:09:28,801 --> 00:09:34,863 Although I think Miggy's suggesting that instead of being a ragtag team of C-list characters, 105 00:09:35,243 --> 00:09:39,944 the Ultramarine Corps could be just generic super soldier types. And this figure dressed 106 00:09:39,964 --> 00:09:43,926 in black is just one of those. Yeah, I could totally see that being the case. I don't think 107 00:09:43,966 --> 00:09:48,990 the figure needs to be some superpowered individuel. I just think it needs to be an elite soldier 108 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:54,175 of sorts that maybe in this film was not put together by Wade Eiland, but maybe by Lois 109 00:09:54,195 --> 00:09:59,459 Lane's father, Sam Lane in conjunction with Lex Corp or something like that. Yeah, yeah, 110 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:04,163 it's possible. I don't think it's anyone special when it comes down to it. I don't really want 111 00:10:04,223 --> 00:10:08,987 it to be any kind of Superman knockoff character because I really want to focus on Lex Luther 112 00:10:09,067 --> 00:10:13,476 as the villain. And that's why Miggie gets the win. So great answer, Miggy, you win this week's 113 00:10:13,516 --> 00:10:18,001 No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned to later 114 00:10:18,061 --> 00:10:22,767 on in this episode when we will be asking another Question of the Week. And now that that's done, 115 00:10:23,388 --> 00:10:24,209 onto the news. 116 00:10:29,678 --> 00:10:36,063 Okay, so these past two weeks we have been fortunate enough to receive a ton of set photos from 117 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:41,828 the outdoor filming of the upcoming Superman film directed by James Gunn. In our last episode 118 00:10:41,848 --> 00:10:47,672 we talked about the first look of the full suits for Superman and Mr. Terrific. This week we 119 00:10:47,692 --> 00:10:52,717 got our first looks at the suits for Guy Gardner, the Green Lantern played by Nathan Fillion 120 00:10:52,997 --> 00:10:58,541 and Hawk Girl played by Isabella Merced. Now right off the bat, pretty much everyone noticed 121 00:10:58,858 --> 00:11:05,162 that both Hawkeye Girl and Guy Garner were wearing uniforms very similar to that worn by Mr. Terrific. 122 00:11:05,302 --> 00:11:10,406 And it looks like these are uniforms worn by a super team sponsored by Maxwell Lord and 123 00:11:10,446 --> 00:11:16,270 his business known as Lord Tech. Which is really interesting. It definitely leans more towards 124 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:21,414 like a Justice League international team from the comics, which was sponsored by Maxwell 125 00:11:21,454 --> 00:11:25,056 Lord. Now, I don't know if they're going to be referred to as the Justice League in this 126 00:11:25,096 --> 00:11:31,075 film or maybe the Terrifics. which was a team from the comic books led by Mr. Terrific. But 127 00:11:31,295 --> 00:11:35,997 I do think it's interesting that they're going this sort of corporate sponsored route. Well, 128 00:11:36,037 --> 00:11:41,179 it provides a nice contrast for the type of hero that Superman is. You know, Superman being 129 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,162 a guy who does what's right for the sake of what's good and right. Right, yeah, he has 130 00:11:46,182 --> 00:11:51,904 a sense of duty as compared to a corporate sponsored team, which may be doing it maybe somewhat 131 00:11:51,924 --> 00:11:56,538 for the duty, but also maybe for, you know, the money and perks. Now a lot of people are 132 00:11:56,578 --> 00:12:01,842 dishing out a lot of flack for these outfits considering the fact that they're not entirely 133 00:12:01,902 --> 00:12:06,705 comics accurate. Guy Garner definitely doesn't have a lot of green on his costume and Hawkgirl 134 00:12:06,985 --> 00:12:11,909 traditionally wears armor. Yeah, the CW did it better for her costume, gotta say. Maybe. 135 00:12:12,089 --> 00:12:17,153 I do like her helmet. And Guy Garner's, you know, bowl cut is definitely in keeping with 136 00:12:17,193 --> 00:12:22,396 the ridiculousness of the character's look in the comics. And while I do wish that both he 137 00:12:22,497 --> 00:12:28,255 and Hawkgirl were... more comics accurate in regards to their looks. I also don't hate the 138 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:34,937 idea story wise of a team that wears the same uniform, almost sort of like the X-Men in the 139 00:12:34,997 --> 00:12:39,758 first X-Men movie, how they wore all black leather. This at least is a little bit more colorful 140 00:12:40,078 --> 00:12:45,120 and it still has like their brand logo insignias on their uniforms. I mean, story reasoning 141 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:50,081 aside, I think the costume choices here were made to the detriment of character recognition. 142 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:54,569 I mean, this is the first look that we're ever going to get at the Green Lantern core within 143 00:12:54,629 --> 00:13:00,294 James Gunn's new DCU. And I don't think it quite services Green Lantern well enough. Same thing 144 00:13:00,314 --> 00:13:04,517 with Hawk Girl. I think you're going to run into like a brand issue at that point almost, 145 00:13:04,718 --> 00:13:08,901 because most people are going to associate the characters within this new universe with this 146 00:13:08,961 --> 00:13:14,566 new look. Well, I mean, in regards to Guy Gardner's look specifically, he wears a jacket in the 147 00:13:14,606 --> 00:13:19,598 comics. So I think, you know, just a color swap on his pants and the jacket. would make him 148 00:13:19,658 --> 00:13:26,781 fit right into the upcoming Lantern show. If all of them wore leather uniforms, I also wouldn't 149 00:13:26,821 --> 00:13:31,523 hate that. It's kind of like Guardians of the Galaxy, like the Nova Corps in a way. I don't 150 00:13:31,543 --> 00:13:37,025 think they need to be CG energy costumes like they were in the Ryan Reynolds film. You mentioned 151 00:13:37,045 --> 00:13:41,947 the X-Men earlier. I think that's a fair comparison. And we've seen what happens when you don't 152 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:45,748 put the characters in the proper costumes right away. And sometimes you have to wait 20 plus 153 00:13:45,768 --> 00:13:51,270 years to finally see them in their comics accurate outfit. Oh, you mean like Wolverine? Yeah. 154 00:13:52,410 --> 00:13:57,012 Yeah, you know, that's a fair criticism. But I also think that if this team is going up 155 00:13:57,052 --> 00:14:02,353 against Superman in this movie, the team is probably going to disband by the end of it. 156 00:14:02,573 --> 00:14:07,074 And I think it's probably fair that they'll probably have more comics accurate looks the 157 00:14:07,094 --> 00:14:11,536 next time we see them on screen. That's just wishful thinking. Yeah. Of course, the one 158 00:14:11,576 --> 00:14:15,637 character that we know is in this film that has not been seen in the set photos, who is 159 00:14:15,697 --> 00:14:20,978 also a member of the terrific in the comics. is Metamorpho, who we know is going to be played 160 00:14:21,018 --> 00:14:26,920 by Anthony Carrigan. There was a guy in a blue motion capture suit spotted on set, so that 161 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,941 may have been him. He might be an all CGI character, which would make sense for the character, since, 162 00:14:32,021 --> 00:14:36,062 you know, he's made up of gases and minerals and stuff like that. I don't know if that's 163 00:14:36,102 --> 00:14:40,704 a motion capture suit or just like a blue screen suit to make the character invisible later 164 00:14:40,844 --> 00:14:45,925 on. It could be a reference point. I have no idea how special effects work, but of all of 165 00:14:45,965 --> 00:14:51,123 the characters to not be in uniform. he kind of makes the most sense. But yeah, that's really 166 00:14:51,183 --> 00:14:55,686 it. I thought the looks were pretty interesting and I can't wait to see more official looks, 167 00:14:55,806 --> 00:15:00,248 maybe something that includes Hawker Girls wings around Comic-Con, I imagine, which is just 168 00:15:00,288 --> 00:15:07,072 in a few weeks. In other DC news, we got our first 30 second teaser trailer for the sequel 169 00:15:07,112 --> 00:15:12,395 to the animated film, Batman Ninja. This time it's called Batman Ninja versus Yakuza League, 170 00:15:12,695 --> 00:15:17,550 which looks like it's gonna be Jessica Cruz, the Green Lantern, the Flash, Aquaman, and 171 00:15:17,630 --> 00:15:23,175 Wonder Woman so far. I would be really surprised if Superman didn't make his way in there somehow. 172 00:15:23,695 --> 00:15:28,600 But so far from what we've seen of these Justice League characters in these feudal Japanese 173 00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:33,424 designs, I cannot wait for this movie because it looks like it's gonna be really fun to watch. 174 00:15:33,965 --> 00:15:38,228 Yeah, well, part of the appeal of the first Batman Ninja movie was to see a bunch of Batman's 175 00:15:38,369 --> 00:15:43,391 rogues gallery. reinterpreted in these feudal Japanese designs. And it's cool to see that 176 00:15:43,431 --> 00:15:47,652 carried over to the Justice League for this film. It appears that maybe Batman's actions 177 00:15:47,772 --> 00:15:52,853 in the past influenced present day Japan because it looks like this movie is taking place in 178 00:15:52,933 --> 00:15:58,215 modern Tokyo, although with a very heavy feudal Japanese approach. Yeah, which is kind of awesome. 179 00:15:58,515 --> 00:16:03,996 I think that's a really cool setting and approach to a sequel. I love the looks for Green Lantern, 180 00:16:04,076 --> 00:16:08,377 Aquaman and Wonder Woman. I think they look really cool. The one I don't love though is 181 00:16:08,397 --> 00:16:12,392 the flash. The hat just doesn't make sense to me. You know, if you're running, the thing's 182 00:16:12,452 --> 00:16:18,277 gonna fly off. But I'm really curious to see Superman and any other Justice Leagueers that 183 00:16:18,317 --> 00:16:22,981 make an appearance. It does look like Damien Wayne is going to be his sidekick for this 184 00:16:23,041 --> 00:16:27,785 movie as Robin, and he was in the first movie as well. Although I do miss the lone wolf and 185 00:16:27,825 --> 00:16:33,630 cub inspired haircut for him. Well, it's present day Japan now, so you gotta modernize it. That's 186 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:38,311 fair. Another thing I love the design of is the logo for this film. It's the word ninja 187 00:16:38,511 --> 00:16:44,213 and the shape of the Batman logo. I want to get that tattooed on my face. I'm wondering 188 00:16:44,233 --> 00:16:48,394 though, since Batman's going up against the Yakuza League, does that mean that the Justice 189 00:16:48,434 --> 00:16:54,055 League are evil? Yeah, I think that's a fair assumption here. They're organized crime. And 190 00:16:54,075 --> 00:16:57,736 they're going to be turned good by the end, maybe? It's weird to see the characters as 191 00:16:57,776 --> 00:17:03,443 villains. That's a good question. Yeah, maybe he has to go back in time. to fix whatever 192 00:17:03,543 --> 00:17:10,628 got messed up in the past and the league follows him. I have no idea. We don't have a release 193 00:17:10,688 --> 00:17:15,152 date for this film just yet. We just know that it's coming out soon and I can't wait to learn 194 00:17:15,212 --> 00:17:19,776 more about it. Again, hopefully during Comic-Con. I expect all of my answers to all of my questions 195 00:17:19,816 --> 00:17:26,441 to be revealed at Comic-Con. That never happens. I know. I just realized now that I'm visiting 196 00:17:26,521 --> 00:17:31,665 the official Batman Ninja website. You know what they're going for with the Flash's hat? 197 00:17:31,982 --> 00:17:38,068 They're going for a Jay Garrick's helmet homage. Oh, OK. I see. I was thinking Raiden for some 198 00:17:38,108 --> 00:17:41,372 reason. I don't know what the lightning. No, because the hat definitely has wings on it. 199 00:17:41,632 --> 00:17:45,897 You know, got you. Makes sense. I loved the first movie. I can't wait for this movie. I 200 00:17:45,937 --> 00:17:49,041 love the concept. And that brings us to our question of the week. 201 00:17:53,590 --> 00:18:00,655 What other Marvel or DC character would you like to see get a cultural reimagining for 202 00:18:00,695 --> 00:18:06,099 a one-off special? Right, similar to Spider-Man India or like, I don't know, the upcoming Aztec 203 00:18:06,139 --> 00:18:11,564 Batman, things like that. What culture, what hero? Describe your reimagining. Record your 204 00:18:11,604 --> 00:18:15,687 answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right-hand 205 00:18:15,747 --> 00:18:19,714 corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could 206 00:18:19,734 --> 00:18:23,915 be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the 207 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:28,938 podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a dynamic duel note prize 208 00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:35,780 that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before July 13th. In our final bit of DC news, 209 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:41,523 we got an official trailer for the upcoming Kite Man Hell Yeah animated series. Of course, 210 00:18:41,563 --> 00:18:47,365 this is a spin off of the Harley Quinn animated series, and a lot of characters are seemingly 211 00:18:47,405 --> 00:18:53,368 making a return. for this one. Which makes me wonder why this couldn't just be a subplot 212 00:18:53,448 --> 00:18:58,710 for the upcoming season of Harley Quinn, but I hope it's just as funny as the Harley Quinn 213 00:18:58,730 --> 00:19:03,052 show. I mean, this is the series that no one asked for, right? No one asked for a Kite Man 214 00:19:03,092 --> 00:19:06,893 series. I don't know what they're doing. I know that we have to review this, but I'll say that 215 00:19:06,933 --> 00:19:11,215 I'm not looking forward to it despite the fact that yeah, Harley Quinn is hilarious, Kite 216 00:19:11,235 --> 00:19:15,177 Man the character is hilarious. I just think there's no demand and nobody's gonna really 217 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:19,866 watch this in my opinion. Dude, no one asked for Kite Man as a character to exist in the 218 00:19:19,886 --> 00:19:25,988 comics to begin with. You're right, this should not exist in any shape or form, but it does 219 00:19:26,168 --> 00:19:29,209 and I'm kind of here for it. Because it looks like they're really, you know, gonna bring 220 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:34,310 out the lovable loser trope that is Kite Man. It looks like he has really horrible luck, 221 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:39,352 his dad hates him, he's trying to run a bar with his new girlfriend, Golden Glider, who's 222 00:19:39,392 --> 00:19:44,633 just killing everybody. I guess the concept does lend itself to a situational comedy sitcom 223 00:19:44,673 --> 00:19:50,107 of sorts. I don't want to sound like a hater because you look at a show like Modok, which 224 00:19:50,227 --> 00:19:54,608 also nobody asks for, but I truly loved that show. So I'm hoping for something like that, 225 00:19:54,708 --> 00:20:00,410 I guess. I do hope that this show is much more episodic than Harley Quinn. Let that have an 226 00:20:00,530 --> 00:20:05,571 overarching narrative throughout the season, but let this one be more like Cheers. I think 227 00:20:05,591 --> 00:20:11,413 that would be perfect. Absolutely. Yeah. The show is being released on July 18th. I'm hoping 228 00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:15,776 that we could squeeze in a Kite Man duel around that time. The executive producers were kicking 229 00:20:15,796 --> 00:20:20,864 around the idea of pitting Stiltman against Kiteman, which I think is so perfect. Hopefully 230 00:20:20,904 --> 00:20:24,891 we can get that in. Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. Once I heard the idea, I can't un-hear 231 00:20:24,931 --> 00:20:26,433 it, and it definitely needs to happen. 232 00:20:33,870 --> 00:20:38,619 So that's it for all the news this week, now let's move on to the main event, where we review 233 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:43,649 the 2009 animated film Green Lantern First Flight. 234 00:20:59,402 --> 00:21:06,223 Green Lantern First Flight is a standalone animated direct-to-video film released in 2009. It was 235 00:21:06,263 --> 00:21:11,965 directed by Lauren Montgomery, a former storyboard artist for the Justice League Unlimited animated 236 00:21:12,005 --> 00:21:17,967 series, who went on to direct some of DC's most celebrated animated films, including Wonder 237 00:21:17,987 --> 00:21:24,688 Woman, Batman Year One, Superman Doomsday, Justice League Doom, just to name a few. She's also 238 00:21:24,729 --> 00:21:30,431 worked on projects for Marvel and Nickelodeon's Avatar franchise, Basically, she's a badass 239 00:21:30,511 --> 00:21:35,155 in the animation industry, so it should come as no surprise that one of Green Lantern's 240 00:21:35,215 --> 00:21:41,760 most badass films, live action or otherwise, would be one she directed. Namely, this movie. 241 00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:46,944 Now since the movie is a decade and a half old by this point, I'm guessing if you wanted to 242 00:21:46,964 --> 00:21:52,168 see the movie by now, you would have. But here's your warning that if you want to avoid spoilers, 243 00:21:52,208 --> 00:21:57,673 I'd probably skip this review until you see the film, which has awesome action, a stellar 244 00:21:57,693 --> 00:22:03,910 voice cast, and really is a film made for fans of the source material. Now, First Flight was 245 00:22:03,970 --> 00:22:10,155 released two years before the live action Green Lantern film that starred Ryan Reynolds, and 246 00:22:10,195 --> 00:22:15,680 it's a shame they didn't take more inspiration from this film because while it admittedly 247 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:21,785 isn't the best origin story when it comes to Hell Jordan, it does a surprisingly decent 248 00:22:21,825 --> 00:22:27,649 job at explaining the cosmic lore behind the Green Lantern stories and a phenomenal job. 249 00:22:27,978 --> 00:22:34,200 with its villain. Sinestro in this film is hands down the best villain in any Green Lantern 250 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:38,782 film to date, of which there aren't many, but yeah, this film set the standard right out 251 00:22:38,822 --> 00:22:44,565 the gate with its corrupt law enforcer mentoring the rookie training day-esque approach to the 252 00:22:44,625 --> 00:22:49,707 story. Yeah, one of the best things that this movie did with the origin was make it primarily 253 00:22:49,747 --> 00:22:55,689 in space. The 2011 live action Green Lantern movie had its main conflict back on Earth. 254 00:22:55,990 --> 00:23:01,594 But I think the unique thing about Green Lantern is that he's one of DC's few cosmic heroes. 255 00:23:01,754 --> 00:23:07,097 You know, you have the core, you have the new gods and a handful of others. But unlike Marvel's 256 00:23:07,117 --> 00:23:12,461 cosmic side, DC doesn't have a whole lot of popular franchises set in outer space. That's 257 00:23:12,741 --> 00:23:16,844 fair. Now, I would definitely agree with you that the decision to keep the film in outer 258 00:23:16,924 --> 00:23:22,869 space kind of helped the narrative in that you were learning about the universe along with 259 00:23:22,949 --> 00:23:28,711 the main character. as opposed to him being on Earth and aliens having to learn about us. 260 00:23:28,831 --> 00:23:33,612 It was kind of backwards for the way I think a Green Lantern film should be. As I mentioned, 261 00:23:33,892 --> 00:23:38,554 the film isn't a great origin story for its main character, Halt Jordan, who's very much 262 00:23:38,594 --> 00:23:44,415 along for the ride and very reactionary in the film, in much the same way Ethan Hawke's character 263 00:23:44,475 --> 00:23:51,057 was in Training Day. And for some reason, that works. The rookie thrown into the deep end 264 00:23:51,137 --> 00:23:56,636 framing of the story helps, I think, with all of the lore and exposition that's thrown at 265 00:23:56,676 --> 00:24:03,840 the audience. The film wastes no time, like zero. Hal Jordan is literally wearing the Green 266 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:09,343 Lantern suit less than four minutes into the film. It doesn't bother explaining Hal Jordan's 267 00:24:09,383 --> 00:24:16,187 history or relationship or goals. We don't know why he was chosen to wear the ring. The Earth 268 00:24:16,207 --> 00:24:22,142 scenes are just prologue, essentially, to the story's massive stakes. of who will control 269 00:24:22,202 --> 00:24:28,366 the dominant power in the universe. The thing is though, that the film is only 77 minutes 270 00:24:28,446 --> 00:24:35,169 long, almost 15 minutes shy of a standard 90 minute film. Like 90 minutes is the minimum 271 00:24:35,229 --> 00:24:40,372 length a film should be. And there was a lot of backstory for Hell that they could have 272 00:24:40,512 --> 00:24:45,435 squeezed into that remaining time. So that kind of sucks, and it really makes it seem like 273 00:24:45,595 --> 00:24:51,418 they knew the audience watching this film would be fans of the comics and not- need all of 274 00:24:51,438 --> 00:24:58,063 that extra information maybe? Though I'd argue that's probably a lazy and dangerous approach 275 00:24:58,323 --> 00:25:03,747 and it shows in this film's current Rotten Tomatoes scores as the audience score is fresh while 276 00:25:03,767 --> 00:25:08,971 the critics score is rotten. Though who knows with my review that may change. Yeah the movie 277 00:25:08,991 --> 00:25:13,554 definitely does no favors for newcomers to the franchise. You had mentioned that it seems 278 00:25:13,674 --> 00:25:18,135 the filmmakers here knew that their audience would be fans of the character most likely, 279 00:25:18,415 --> 00:25:23,117 but it also seems more like an admission that casual viewers aren't going to watch their 280 00:25:23,157 --> 00:25:27,618 film. Yeah. Which is not a good thing. You know, especially for an origin story, you want things 281 00:25:27,658 --> 00:25:32,059 to be accessible. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, there are a lot of comics characters 282 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:38,761 with really dense lores, but a good writer can fix that in a way, because not everything needs 283 00:25:38,801 --> 00:25:45,380 to be adapted. one for one from comics to the screen because you have decades worth of history 284 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,801 to back you up in the comics, whereas you don't have that when you're trying to reach an audience 285 00:25:49,821 --> 00:25:55,004 for the first time. I could have easily done with a good 15 minutes or more of this film 286 00:25:55,204 --> 00:26:00,086 because I did enjoy it. The current runtime, I think signifies there was a budget issue 287 00:26:00,206 --> 00:26:03,987 and maybe that's why they couldn't squeeze in more of that pertinent character building. 288 00:26:04,387 --> 00:26:08,649 Yeah, I was guessing the same thing. They probably didn't have the money to do more story, which 289 00:26:08,689 --> 00:26:13,496 is a shame. Now, I will admit that one of the reasons the film does a decent job with the 290 00:26:13,536 --> 00:26:19,580 Green Lantern lore is because it wisely chose to ignore comic writer Jeff Johns' introduction 291 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,945 of the emotional electromagnetic spectrum and the embodiments of the emotions within it such 292 00:26:26,005 --> 00:26:31,929 as the entity of Parallax, who we were introduced to in the Green Lantern Rebirth comic storyline 293 00:26:31,949 --> 00:26:37,733 a few years prior. Parallax, of course, was the villain in the live-action film and rewatching 294 00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:43,913 this film All I could think about was how much of a mistake that was. Yeah. Can I say my favorite 295 00:26:43,953 --> 00:26:48,717 thing about this movie is the lack of emotional spectrum. When you start talking about colors 296 00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:55,041 as emotions, it all becomes just a little bit too conceptual and maybe cheesy. I like their 297 00:26:55,062 --> 00:26:58,944 approach of just saying this is the green energy that they were able to harness from the green 298 00:26:59,004 --> 00:27:03,568 element and it's weak to the yellow element. And that's really all you need to know. I completely 299 00:27:03,628 --> 00:27:09,523 agree. It's way too. convoluted. Even in the comics, it's too much in my opinion. Yeah, 300 00:27:09,943 --> 00:27:15,004 I mean it makes everything just too emotional, which sounds like a shitty thing to say because 301 00:27:15,124 --> 00:27:20,286 it's not a bad thing to be emotional, but you really paint your characters into a corner 302 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:24,527 and it's hard for them to be multifaceted and have multiple emotions when you know they're 303 00:27:24,547 --> 00:27:29,728 represented by things like anger for the red lanterns or avarice for the orange lanterns, 304 00:27:30,128 --> 00:27:35,054 fear for the yellow lanterns. Everything is just kind of pigeonholed character-wise. Yeah, 305 00:27:35,074 --> 00:27:39,355 it makes the characters more one-dimensional. I completely agree with you. Going back to 306 00:27:39,375 --> 00:27:44,116 Hal Jordan's lack of character development, the main reason I think it's easy to gloss 307 00:27:44,376 --> 00:27:50,838 over that is the action. I think the animated action of this film is actually its main draw, 308 00:27:51,078 --> 00:27:56,479 and anticipating what ingenious way Hal Jordan was going to use his ring's power to get out 309 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:01,941 of various conflicts was really fun to watch, like in a MacGyver kind of way. With all the 310 00:28:02,001 --> 00:28:07,164 prejudice the alien characters had, for the human Hal Jordan, it was satisfying to see 311 00:28:07,184 --> 00:28:12,308 him outthink them in a way that it never really was for the live action film, at least for 312 00:28:12,348 --> 00:28:16,612 me personally. Yeah, I mean Green Lantern's power set is so visual, it's always fun to 313 00:28:16,632 --> 00:28:21,556 watch. Absolutely. The guy can literally create anything, so what is he going to create next? 314 00:28:21,636 --> 00:28:26,219 Let's find out. I mean, there is a severe lack of imagination among the Green Lantern Corps 315 00:28:26,239 --> 00:28:31,704 in general. They kind of seem to keep their constructs limited to the six simple machines, 316 00:28:32,204 --> 00:28:36,874 but it's still fun to watch that too. In terms of the animation, I tend to knock the Bruce 317 00:28:36,894 --> 00:28:43,257 Timm style for its overuse, but this is among the best works in that style I would say, like 318 00:28:43,297 --> 00:28:49,759 hands down. It almost, like almost, edges into kinetic anime style in moments when characters' 319 00:28:49,859 --> 00:28:54,781 body structures become exaggerated, but I wouldn't go as far as to say this is anywhere close 320 00:28:54,801 --> 00:29:00,195 to being as good as anime animation. Yeah, it's a step up, I think, from a lot of what we got 321 00:29:00,295 --> 00:29:04,878 in the DC animated movie universe. Even though, you know, that whole run of films was incredible, 322 00:29:05,038 --> 00:29:10,261 the animation was slightly lacking during that run. Here, it was fantastic. Yeah, of course, 323 00:29:10,301 --> 00:29:15,425 this film was not in that run. It wasn't a part of that. This, of course, was its own standalone 324 00:29:15,445 --> 00:29:20,968 film. I think even Green Lanterns Emerald Nights is only considered a quasi sequel, with only 325 00:29:21,048 --> 00:29:26,968 some of the voice cast returning for that movie. I did mention that the voice cast here is stellar 326 00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:33,153 and we see some pretty big names including Michael Madsen of Reservoir Dogs fame as Killawog, 327 00:29:33,634 --> 00:29:39,799 Kurtwood Smith from That 70s Show as Kanjar Rowe, and Trisha Helfer from Battlestar Galactica 328 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:45,644 as Budica. They spent way more money on the casting budget for this film than they have 329 00:29:45,684 --> 00:29:51,188 in recent DC animated fare and that's probably why they could only reach 77 minutes. But let's 330 00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:56,056 talk about the two main characters. and the actors who voiced them in our character breakdown. 331 00:29:56,517 --> 00:30:01,381 Now Hal Jordan was voiced by Christopher Maloney, who's most well known for playing Detective 332 00:30:01,421 --> 00:30:07,367 Stabler on Law and Order SVU, but is also a known face from other films such as 12 Monkeys 333 00:30:07,507 --> 00:30:12,612 and Man of Steel, where he played Colonel Hardy. I still remember rumors that he was going to 334 00:30:12,632 --> 00:30:16,936 be Hal Jordan when his casting was announced for Man of Steel way back when, because of 335 00:30:16,976 --> 00:30:22,300 his work in this Green Lantern film. Now, my favorite voice actor for Hal Jordan is actually 336 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:28,304 Nathan Fillion, but probably only because Maloney doesn't have a whole lot to work with in this 337 00:30:28,364 --> 00:30:34,248 film. Like I've said, Hal's a very reactionary character. So a lot of his lines in the movie 338 00:30:34,428 --> 00:30:42,954 are relegated to things like, OK, and what the hell? It's not the best writing. Yeah, he doesn't 339 00:30:42,974 --> 00:30:46,956 get a lot of monologues or anything like that. Definitely not. The most he speaks is when 340 00:30:46,996 --> 00:30:51,571 he's like talking to the guardians. or when he's talking to Budoka and Killawag in his 341 00:30:51,651 --> 00:30:57,415 cell. Now regarding Hal's character arc, it's clear from the opening scene that Hal is something 342 00:30:57,455 --> 00:31:02,878 of a troublemaker who's probably too skilled to test flight simulators and he's pretty bored. 343 00:31:03,298 --> 00:31:07,441 That of course all changes when he gains the Green Lantern Ring and is whisked off across 344 00:31:07,461 --> 00:31:13,204 the universe on an adventure with universal stakes. But that's pretty much it. Like he's 345 00:31:13,264 --> 00:31:18,239 kind of the universe's luckiest guy. and that he often just finds himself in the right place 346 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:24,142 at the right time, whether it's being chosen for the ring or noticing invisible aliens in 347 00:31:24,162 --> 00:31:29,525 a spaceport or even being near the central power battery at the end of the film. Yeah, I noticed 348 00:31:29,565 --> 00:31:34,647 that a lot of the plot was driven by Hal just being lucky. Like, of course, he fell into 349 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:39,994 the sewer right before the bad guy fell into the sewer. You know, right? Yeah. I just managed 350 00:31:40,034 --> 00:31:45,635 to run into Kush. Yeah, it's again, not an example of the best writing. You don't want your character 351 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:50,817 to just be lucky. You want there to be reasons for that, typically. You shouldn't be able 352 00:31:50,837 --> 00:31:56,118 to get away with something like that in screenwriting, but they kind of did in this film. Yeah, just 353 00:31:56,158 --> 00:32:02,140 barely enough where the audience didn't question it too much. I do think that this movie probably 354 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,361 deserved a sequel and that it set up really well why Hal Jordan would be regarded as one 355 00:32:07,401 --> 00:32:11,600 of the best among the core. which is always kind of hard to believe considering how massive 356 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,263 the court is. You know, everyone's always talking about how great Hal Jordan is. But this movie 357 00:32:16,403 --> 00:32:20,126 showed that, you know, he definitely has something unique going for him. Yeah, we may not know 358 00:32:20,246 --> 00:32:26,070 why he's special, but the film does a good job of establishing the fact that he is. I think 359 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:31,193 they definitely could have taken that in different directions for a sequel. Also special is Sinestro, 360 00:32:31,294 --> 00:32:37,098 who in this film was voiced by Victor Garber, the Tony and Emmy award winning actor. known 361 00:32:37,118 --> 00:32:43,362 for his work in films like Titanic and Argo and shows like Alias. He was Martin Stein in 362 00:32:43,402 --> 00:32:49,186 the CW's Arrowverse shows, you know, one half of Firestorm. The guy's just an amazing actor 363 00:32:49,506 --> 00:32:55,211 and he was great as Sinestro, like flawlessly capturing the characters cold cunning to boiling 364 00:32:55,291 --> 00:33:01,815 rage. Sinestro is easily the most interesting character in this film. You know, he's a bad 365 00:33:01,855 --> 00:33:06,751 cop who's disdained for chaos and crime in the universe. which he attributes to a failure 366 00:33:06,811 --> 00:33:12,135 in leadership on behalf of the Guardians, leads to him abusing his power. He believes it's 367 00:33:12,175 --> 00:33:17,360 better to be feared and respected rather than being compassionate, and his extreme methods 368 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:24,246 have proven results that garner him influence within the core. His utilitarian philosophy, 369 00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:31,172 that his means are justified by his end goal of instilling order in the universe, is comparable 370 00:33:31,232 --> 00:33:37,432 to other villains like Thanos, or Ozymandias from Watchmen. It's wrong, but it's easy to 371 00:33:37,472 --> 00:33:43,937 see how good intentions could lead there. And the crazy thing is that if it wasn't for one 372 00:33:43,997 --> 00:33:50,662 guy from one backwater planet, he would have been successful. Like he killed so many good 373 00:33:50,702 --> 00:33:56,438 guys in this film, more than a lot of other villains in a lot of other movies. Like you 374 00:33:56,478 --> 00:34:01,642 mentioned, I would have loved to have seen a direct sequel to this film where Sinestro goes 375 00:34:01,722 --> 00:34:08,027 on to create the Sinestro Corps. That sequel will never happen, but I hope that Sinestro 376 00:34:08,248 --> 00:34:14,253 is as good in the upcoming Lanterns television series as he was in this film. For sure. Yeah, 377 00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:18,096 he was fantastic in this movie. I was blown away. His motivations were so clear. You could 378 00:34:18,136 --> 00:34:22,339 totally see where he was coming from, where he truly believed that any action he took, 379 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:28,119 no matter how seemingly immoral or evil. were rationalized by the fact that he likely would 380 00:34:28,139 --> 00:34:33,481 produce results. But as Hal Jordan shows, there are multiple ways to achieve order in the universe, 381 00:34:34,021 --> 00:34:39,343 and not all of them mean you have to be a dick. Or specifically a dictator, you know? Right. 382 00:34:39,363 --> 00:34:44,866 Which is exactly what Sinestro wanted to be, and he wanted to amass power to essentially 383 00:34:44,946 --> 00:34:50,288 control everyone and everything in the universe, taking away their freedoms. And that's sort 384 00:34:50,328 --> 00:34:54,974 of what sets him apart from someone like Thanos or Ozymandias. They weren't really trying to 385 00:34:55,034 --> 00:34:59,958 control people in the same way that Sinestro is, and I think that makes him a little bit 386 00:35:00,398 --> 00:35:05,862 even more sinister, perhaps. For sure. I was actually surprised by the body count in this 387 00:35:05,922 --> 00:35:11,526 movie. Like, so many dead green lanterns. The stakes were massive, and the movie definitely 388 00:35:11,566 --> 00:35:16,309 didn't shy away from showing us that. Yeah, no. Like, we saw some popular lanterns go down, 389 00:35:16,349 --> 00:35:22,493 like Tomar Ray, Boudicca, Green Man. Too many. Too many. Oh, I didn't know Charlie Day was 390 00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:24,123 in this movie. What? 391 00:35:31,342 --> 00:35:37,004 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 392 00:35:37,024 --> 00:35:42,747 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 393 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:48,130 Dynomic Podcast Network presents... Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every 394 00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:53,153 Monday. Dynamic Duel, where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where 395 00:35:53,173 --> 00:35:56,406 the world is at its limit. The Dynomic Podcast Network presents... 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Visit dynamicpodcast.com where we settle the debate and settle the score. 399 00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:24,314 Moving on to the story highlights, during an exercise in a flight simulator for aeronautics 400 00:36:24,334 --> 00:36:30,719 company Ferris Air, Hell Jordan is abducted by the dying alien Aben Suur, a protector of 401 00:36:30,739 --> 00:36:35,962 the universe known as a Green Lantern, whose spacecraft crash landed in the American desert. 402 00:36:36,483 --> 00:36:42,467 His power ring chooses Hell to be Aben's successor, and after donning the ring, the spacecraft 403 00:36:42,527 --> 00:36:48,696 explodes, destroying any evidence of it or the alien. Like you said, lightning quick. The 404 00:36:48,756 --> 00:36:53,483 origin happened so fast in this movie, I was actually kind of confused that I maybe skipped 405 00:36:53,543 --> 00:36:58,870 over some important establishing scene or something. Yeah, actually I thought the same thing. It's 406 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:03,016 been a while since I'd last seen this film. So yeah, I rewound it and watched it a couple 407 00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:08,515 of times actually. Now, one thing they did in this film that was brilliant was have the spacecraft 408 00:37:08,735 --> 00:37:13,897 explode and destroy the alien body, destroying all evidence, essentially, because then you 409 00:37:13,917 --> 00:37:18,139 don't even need to worry about that. Like what they did in the Green Lantern live action film. 410 00:37:18,359 --> 00:37:22,461 It's like, oh, all of a sudden we have this alien cadaver that we need to, you know, run 411 00:37:22,501 --> 00:37:26,963 tests on and stuff like that. Get that out of the way. Get into space. Does that mean the 412 00:37:27,023 --> 00:37:30,844 Evans or ship had some kind of self-destruct sequence built into it or something like that? 413 00:37:30,904 --> 00:37:37,449 I guess I don't even know why the ship exploded. Oh, yeah, that's fair. The reasoning is because 414 00:37:37,469 --> 00:37:44,295 we need to move the story along. All right. We need to get to the opening credits. That 415 00:37:44,315 --> 00:37:48,899 doesn't seem very efficient in terms of Green Lantern detective work when one of the core 416 00:37:48,919 --> 00:37:53,222 members goes down. You would think that the ring itself would at least serve as a black 417 00:37:53,262 --> 00:37:58,787 box sort of log for that type of situation, but seems that's not the case. Oh, that's true. 418 00:37:59,168 --> 00:38:03,894 I didn't even think about that. It should. It probably would in the comics, but I guess not 419 00:38:03,914 --> 00:38:08,957 for this film. Now after returning the simulator back to Ferris Air Base, Hal Jordan informs 420 00:38:08,997 --> 00:38:14,779 his love interest and supervisor, Carol Ferris, that he'll be taking a week off of work, just 421 00:38:14,819 --> 00:38:20,081 before he's ambushed and interrogated by four other alien members of the Green Lantern Corps, 422 00:38:20,541 --> 00:38:25,603 who questioned what happened to Abbasur and inform Hal that they'll be taking him to their 423 00:38:25,663 --> 00:38:31,562 homeworld, Oa, at the center of the universe, for approval from their superiors. beings known 424 00:38:31,702 --> 00:38:37,186 as the Guardians. The Guardians initially express disdain at the idea of an Earthling bearing 425 00:38:37,266 --> 00:38:43,170 a Green Lantern power ring, but after Hal stands up for himself against the Guardians, a senior 426 00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:48,855 Green Lantern named Sinestro offers to train and test Hal to see if he's worthy of the ring. 427 00:38:49,215 --> 00:38:53,738 Sinestro takes Hal to the central power battery that energizes their rings so that Hal can 428 00:38:53,778 --> 00:39:00,583 download all of the known information of Universal Sector 1215. a process that Hal surprisingly 429 00:39:00,623 --> 00:39:07,506 survives. The two travel to Kadmindo, a planet within Sector 1215, where Sinestro believes 430 00:39:07,526 --> 00:39:13,990 they can find Kutch. The alien Sinestro believes is responsible for Abin Sur's death. When Sinestro 431 00:39:14,050 --> 00:39:20,153 tortures Kutch's love interest, Labela, for information, Hal tries to stop him just before 432 00:39:20,213 --> 00:39:23,235 Kutch attacks the Green Lanterns, then attempts to flee. 433 00:39:28,598 --> 00:39:34,400 but upon delivering him to Sinestro, HAL has physically reprimanded for his earlier defiance, 434 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,862 learning of Sinestro's uncompromising disdain for the crime and chaos in the universe, and 435 00:39:39,882 --> 00:39:45,084 that the Guardians have been inadequate in preventing. Other Green Lanterns arrive, and they take 436 00:39:45,184 --> 00:39:50,907 Kutch back to Oa for interrogation. Another thing that the script kind of skips over is 437 00:39:51,087 --> 00:39:56,389 why Kutch was a lead for the Corps. They mention his name kind of out of the blue, and all of 438 00:39:56,409 --> 00:40:01,639 a sudden we're following this guy. Well, somehow Sinestro knew that Kutch was the one who killed 439 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,723 Abin Sur. We never learned how he learned that information, but possibly he learned it from 440 00:40:07,803 --> 00:40:13,546 Kanjar Rowe, which begs the question, why didn't a Sinestro just go straight to Kanjar Rowe? 441 00:40:13,926 --> 00:40:17,408 That's a great question. And you would think that maybe Hal Jordan would have questions 442 00:40:17,448 --> 00:40:21,791 about what they were doing and why. Possibly. You know, Hal Jordan is not a detective on 443 00:40:21,931 --> 00:40:26,333 Earth, so maybe he wouldn't have thought of that. That's the only explanation I could think 444 00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:33,670 of. The moon ball scene where Sinestro was torturing Labella was hard to watch, I found. Yeah, because 445 00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:40,195 of the context that this moon ball was a drug. So the analog to Earthbound Drugs was like 446 00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:46,139 watching him make her inject herself with heroin repeatedly or something like that. Right. Yeah, 447 00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:51,062 that's crazy. This is actually the scene that made me think of Training Day specifically, 448 00:40:51,423 --> 00:40:55,325 you know, just the whole drug tie in. And I was like, oh man, this is kind of brilliant. 449 00:40:55,445 --> 00:41:01,307 Yeah. Now on Oa, Hal is befriended by Budica despite his discrimination from other lanterns. 450 00:41:01,787 --> 00:41:06,608 Budica explains the history of the Green Lantern Corps and how it's currently being threatened 451 00:41:06,648 --> 00:41:12,630 by the emergence of the Yellow Element, an energy source recently stolen by an alien smuggler 452 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:18,972 named Kanjar Rho that rivals the Green Element within the Central Power Battery. Kutch, Hal 453 00:41:19,012 --> 00:41:24,713 learns, fatally wounded Abin Sur when Abin Sur went undercover to find the Yellow Element. 454 00:41:25,058 --> 00:41:30,739 just before Abin crash landed on Earth. After torturing and killing Kutch for information, 455 00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:36,541 Sinestro debriefs the core as to Kanjar Rose whereabouts in preparation for a mission to 456 00:41:36,641 --> 00:41:42,343 get him, just before being scolded by the Guardians for his extreme measures. The scene between 457 00:41:42,383 --> 00:41:48,025 Budica and Hal is actually pretty crucial I would say for the movie because there's a lot 458 00:41:48,065 --> 00:41:54,491 of exposition there. and they do it in a pretty efficient way through essentially a mind reading 459 00:41:54,551 --> 00:41:59,172 of each other. Yeah, it was the exchange of information through the rings, which is a pretty 460 00:41:59,192 --> 00:42:04,934 cool concept. This used so much foreshadow how Sinistra uses his own ring to read the dying 461 00:42:04,994 --> 00:42:09,455 mind of Kenjaro later in the film. Yeah, but it doesn't explain how he was able to reanimate 462 00:42:09,495 --> 00:42:14,196 Kenjaro's body. Like, I didn't know the Green Lantern ring could bring back the dead. Well, 463 00:42:14,216 --> 00:42:19,374 he was saying that he was reconnecting his dead synapses in his brain. Something like that. 464 00:42:19,394 --> 00:42:26,880 That's bullshit. It's bullshit. I agree. When a team of lanterns arrive at the Cadian space 465 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:33,325 terminal to find Kanjaro, Hel is assigned to watch the outer perimeter. Kanjaro, meanwhile, 466 00:42:33,546 --> 00:42:38,670 learns the lanterns are looking for him and meets with Sinestro telepathically, revealing 467 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:43,734 that the two are secretly working together to turn the yellow element into a weapon. Though 468 00:42:43,774 --> 00:42:49,218 Sinestro tries to focus the lantern's attention away from Kanjaro, so that he could escape, 469 00:42:49,578 --> 00:42:55,020 Hal notices suspicious activity on the loading dock area and discovers Kanjar Rho and his 470 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:02,123 soldiers. A battle and chase ensue, but thanks to Hal's ingenuity and competence, he manages 471 00:43:02,163 --> 00:43:08,026 to reach Kanjar before the others, only to be knocked unconscious. When Sinestro arrives 472 00:43:08,246 --> 00:43:14,408 second, he kills Kanjar knowing Hal would get the blame. That action scene that happens through 473 00:43:14,428 --> 00:43:19,383 the space warp tunnel is so damn cool. I really liked how that all played out. It had a lot 474 00:43:19,403 --> 00:43:23,385 of momentum. Yeah, all the action scenes in this had a lot of momentum and again, a lot 475 00:43:23,405 --> 00:43:28,508 of stakes because you actually see lanterns fall during the battle. So it's like, oh, shit. 476 00:43:28,928 --> 00:43:33,290 You know, what's going to happen to these characters that we've kind of come to know. And the way 477 00:43:33,310 --> 00:43:38,713 that Held Jordan manages to succeed where the others don't. Again, one of the highlights 478 00:43:38,753 --> 00:43:44,637 of watching this film, like him using that grapple to latch onto the spaceship as it emerged from 479 00:43:44,737 --> 00:43:49,127 that wormhole thing. It's like, why didn't the others think of that? Because that was brilliant. 480 00:43:49,568 --> 00:43:55,111 Exactly. I also really liked the whole plot of Sinestro framing Hal Jordan for murder. 481 00:43:55,712 --> 00:44:00,094 Again, it's another tie to the Training Day film. If you guys haven't seen Training Day, 482 00:44:00,214 --> 00:44:05,558 watch that movie. I think that would be a perfect setup for a Green Lantern film. And I really 483 00:44:05,578 --> 00:44:11,870 hope that's used as inspiration or basis for the upcoming HBO Max Lantern show. Back on 484 00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:17,054 Oa, Hel is put on trial for the death of Kanjar and stripped of his power rink and placed in 485 00:44:17,114 --> 00:44:23,199 custody for deportation back to Earth. Confiding in his fellow lanterns Budica and Kilowog that 486 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,284 he suspects Sinestro was responsible for killing Kanjar and stealing his energy rod, they take 487 00:44:29,304 --> 00:44:35,629 a detour to the morgue where Hel's suspicions are confirmed as they find Sinestro using Kanjar's 488 00:44:35,709 --> 00:44:40,853 energy rod to telepathically deduce that the yellow element is with the weaponers on the 489 00:44:40,893 --> 00:44:47,423 planet. Quard. When Killawag tries to arrest Sinestro, Budica reveals herself to be in league 490 00:44:47,443 --> 00:44:54,729 with Sinestro and knocks Killawag out. As Sinestro leaves Oa for Quard, Budica attempts to kill 491 00:44:54,789 --> 00:45:01,455 Hal only for Killawag to awaken. Hal manages to outsmart Budica who accidentally kills herself 492 00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:06,900 in an explosion from Kandar's energy rod. Budica's betrayal totally caught me by surprise. I did 493 00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:11,539 not see that coming. It was a legitimate twist. Yeah, and kudos to the animators for making 494 00:45:11,699 --> 00:45:15,863 all of her like previous worrisome glances have like this double meaning when you watch the 495 00:45:15,883 --> 00:45:20,547 film for the second time. Like she's worried Hal is catching on, not that she's worried 496 00:45:20,647 --> 00:45:27,372 about Hal in general. Her death scene was hardcore. It was violent. I was like, what rating is 497 00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:33,518 this? Holy shit. Yeah, it's like, why isn't the blood blue? When Sinistro arrives on cord, 498 00:45:33,618 --> 00:45:38,698 the weaponers reveal that they have made a second power battery using the yellow element. and 499 00:45:38,758 --> 00:45:44,342 gift him with a yellow ring to control it before departing back to their home dimension. When 500 00:45:44,402 --> 00:45:50,246 a squad of green lanterns arrive on Kord, having learned of Sinestro's whereabouts, Sinestro 501 00:45:50,286 --> 00:45:55,970 kills them, sending their rings back to Oa. Sinestro arrives on Oa soon after with his 502 00:45:56,010 --> 00:46:01,694 power battery and decimates the planet along with any lantern that tries to stop him. When 503 00:46:01,714 --> 00:46:07,638 the yellow power battery overloads the green one, lanterns across the universe are with 504 00:46:07,718 --> 00:46:13,783 many of them dying in space. As the Guardians prepare to surrender to Sinestro, HAL manages 505 00:46:13,823 --> 00:46:18,647 to harness the green element directly while within the destroyed central power battery. 506 00:46:19,047 --> 00:46:24,852 Full of green energy, HAL battles Sinestro, managing to destroy the yellow power battery 507 00:46:25,132 --> 00:46:31,378 with two moons of Oa in the process. Using up the last of his energy to blast Sinestro to 508 00:46:31,418 --> 00:46:33,299 the surface of Oa from space, 509 00:46:36,374 --> 00:46:42,336 destroy Sinestro's reign before flying up to rescue Hal from his fall. Is the movie implying 510 00:46:42,396 --> 00:46:48,859 that green energy is not necessarily weak to yellow energy if there's a sufficient quantity 511 00:46:48,879 --> 00:46:54,222 of the green energy? For some reason Hal was able to withstand the yellow attacks. Was it 512 00:46:54,262 --> 00:47:01,225 because he had a whole lot of green energy? I think so. That's convenient is all I'll say. 513 00:47:01,705 --> 00:47:06,315 But I guess it makes sense. I mean, why wouldn't it? Hal was charged directly from the green 514 00:47:06,375 --> 00:47:10,156 element, whereas other green lanterns, you know, they're not as close to that power source, 515 00:47:10,276 --> 00:47:15,879 so they wouldn't have had as much energy to battle Sinestra with. Right. Hal was like glowing 516 00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:21,741 with so much green energy. The way I kind of chose to think of it is, yes, ice is weak to 517 00:47:21,821 --> 00:47:28,244 fire. But if you have a whole lot of ice, it's going to be harder for the fire to defeat the 518 00:47:28,324 --> 00:47:35,951 ice, to put it in Pokemon terms, I guess. Yeah. One thing I thought about was the scene prior 519 00:47:36,171 --> 00:47:42,515 where Sinistro forces Hal Jordan to put his fist into the power battery. It's almost like 520 00:47:42,535 --> 00:47:48,298 a proximity to the green element made it more effective or more powerful. And for some reason, 521 00:47:48,338 --> 00:47:54,261 Hal Jordan was able to absorb that energy in a way that other aliens had not been able to 522 00:47:54,341 --> 00:47:59,324 or even died trying to attempt that. Yeah, my assumption is that no other alien had attempted 523 00:47:59,424 --> 00:48:05,264 to access the green element directly. Right, yeah exactly. I did think it was really badass 524 00:48:05,304 --> 00:48:10,247 when he took the two moons and used it to crush the yellow central power battery. That was 525 00:48:10,327 --> 00:48:15,350 a feat unlike any other. That was the most badass thing I think I've ever seen a Green Lantern 526 00:48:15,391 --> 00:48:20,974 do. That was awesome. In the final scene of the film, the Guardians recognized their discrimination 527 00:48:21,154 --> 00:48:26,318 against Hal was unwarranted, and they hold a ceremony to honor him and the fallen lanterns. 528 00:48:26,798 --> 00:48:33,814 After leading the core in the oath of the Green Lanterns, Hell flies into space to return to 529 00:48:33,934 --> 00:48:39,696 Earth. That's the end of the film. No, we never saw the oath recited previously, right? No, 530 00:48:39,996 --> 00:48:45,678 it wasn't used as a mechanism to charge the ring in this film. It was simply their pledge, 531 00:48:45,738 --> 00:48:49,539 sort of like the Pledge of Allegiance, which works for me, because I always thought the 532 00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:53,680 oath was kind of a silly way to charge your ring. Like just hold it up to the lantern, 533 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:59,395 you're good. That's true. I think in addition to several... establishing scenes in the beginning 534 00:48:59,415 --> 00:49:03,618 of this movie, it would have been nice to have an ending scene having him return to Earth 535 00:49:03,798 --> 00:49:09,503 and see how the experience changed him and his relationship somewhat. Absolutely, yeah. The 536 00:49:09,543 --> 00:49:14,687 film should have been longer. It was dense and they could have spread that out over a little 537 00:49:14,707 --> 00:49:20,832 bit more time pretty easily, you would think. Yeah. Overall, the film was dense, but with 538 00:49:20,872 --> 00:49:27,936 fun action and cosmic lore, It's unapologetically intended for fans of the source material, though 539 00:49:27,956 --> 00:49:34,901 I would say it struggles as an effective origin tale. The voice cast was phenomenal, the animation 540 00:49:35,061 --> 00:49:41,625 was great, but ultimately I would say the film is inaccessible to probably most audience members. 541 00:49:42,025 --> 00:49:48,369 And because of that, I'm giving this 3.5 out of 5 stars. Still a fresh rating on Rotten 542 00:49:48,389 --> 00:49:53,800 Tomatoes, though. Yeah, I mean the movie has its faults, especially with story and character 543 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,124 development, but I think that the pros outweigh the cons, especially in terms of spectacle, 544 00:49:58,244 --> 00:50:02,067 you know, what you come to see a Green Lantern movie for, the action and stuff, you know? 545 00:50:02,587 --> 00:50:06,450 And there was plenty of it and I would definitely recommend the movie to Green Lantern fans, 546 00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:11,495 absolutely. I will say though that I didn't like it quite as much as Green Lantern Beware 547 00:50:11,515 --> 00:50:15,978 My Power or Green Lantern Emerald Nights, but it goes to show that the character has some 548 00:50:16,058 --> 00:50:20,958 solid animated movies under his belt. If not, you know, the live action movie. Yeah, I definitely 549 00:50:20,998 --> 00:50:25,840 hope they use this movie and probably Emerald Nights, which I also really liked as a basis 550 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,622 for the upcoming series. Beware, my power is also good, though I would like to see the show 551 00:50:30,662 --> 00:50:34,443 focus more on Green Lanterns, whereas beware, my power focuses, you know, on a whole bunch 552 00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:40,386 of different alien races like the Raniens, the Thanagarians. That may be important for a show 553 00:50:40,486 --> 00:50:45,328 set out in outer space, but I'm not sure if Lanterns is going to do that. It better if 554 00:50:45,368 --> 00:50:52,227 it knows what's good for it. I agree. I agree. But that does it for this review, AJ9K, help 555 00:50:52,287 --> 00:50:59,276 us close out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic duel. Visit the show's website at dynamicduel.com 556 00:51:00,117 --> 00:51:05,821 and follow us on Instagram at dynamicduelpodcast. You can support the show on Patreon at patreon.com 557 00:51:06,241 --> 00:51:10,925 slash dynamicduel and joining a tier that works for you or by rating and reviewing Dynamic 558 00:51:10,945 --> 00:51:16,509 duel on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser, or on our website. Don't forget to listen to 559 00:51:16,529 --> 00:51:21,892 the other shows in the DynaMic podcast network, including Max Destruction, Senjo World, and 560 00:51:21,932 --> 00:51:28,227 Console Combat. In our next episode, as we mentioned earlier, we're going to find out who'd win 561 00:51:28,267 --> 00:51:34,390 in a fight between Atrocitus, the Red Lantern, versus Juggernaut, the X-Men villain. It's 562 00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:39,612 the Red Power Ring versus the Crimson Bands of Scytorek. Yeah, of course, that is in lead 563 00:51:39,672 --> 00:51:45,695 up to our review of Deadpool and Wolverine, since Juggernaut was a major player in the 564 00:51:45,755 --> 00:51:49,817 second Deadpool movie. So look forward to that next week. That does it for this episode. We 565 00:51:49,837 --> 00:51:54,467 want to give a big thanks to our executive producers. Ken Johnson, John Sturawski, Zachary Hepburn, 566 00:51:54,587 --> 00:51:59,950 Dustin Belcombe, Mickey Montagnon, Brandon Essargard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yatin, Austin Wasylowski, 567 00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:06,673 AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spies, Andrew Schunk, Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, 568 00:52:06,954 --> 00:52:11,576 and Joseph Kirsting for helping make this podcast possible. And we'll talk to you guys next week. 569 00:52:12,036 --> 00:52:17,699 Up up and away, true believers. In plainest grey, in pale taupe, No simulation is outside 570 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,379 my scope. Let those who just can't seem to cope, Beware my power. because I am dope.