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This is a DynaMic Network podcast.

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Hi and welcome to Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly
show where we review superhero films and debate

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the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
their characters in stat-based battle simulations.

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I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother
Johnny DC. And for Spooktober in this Halloween

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season, guys, we have a special treat for you.
Just like last year, how we kind of surprised

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you guys with our DCs vs. Marvel zombies team
duel episode. We're doing it again. We're going

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to do another spooky... team duel and find out
who would win in a fight between the creature

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commandos and the legion of monsters slash hellen
commandos. Yeah, of course, this is perfect

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timing because DC has a creature commandos television
series that will be coming out later on this

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year. Yeah, I really can't wait to get into
this duel match, learn about both teams and

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of course find out who will win. That's all
coming later on this episode. Before that,

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we're gonna break down the latest comic book
movie news to come out this past week. Of which

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there's quite a bit of news coming out of New
York Comic Con. Including our first look at

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Crypto in the DCU Superman film, the Creature
Commandos official trailer, the Batman Ninja

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vs Yakuza League new trailer, and the Watchmen
Chapter 2 official trailer. All DC news! Yeah,

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that's kinda lame, but Marvel got a lot of big
news coming out of D23 a few months ago. Marvel's

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going to win this matchup, so... What do you
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and television against each other. This week,
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winner between Beetlejuice and Freddy Krueger.
That's gonna be really good. On the Central

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World Podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates
on fights between fan favorite anime and manga

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characters. This Thursday, Zach will find out
who will win between Shinji Ikari from Evangelion

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and Monster King Orochi from One Punch Man.
That's gonna be another good one. Hell yeah!

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Finally on the Console Combat Podcast, hosts
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video game characters. In yesterday's episode,
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Network. But with that out of the way... Quick!
To the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel

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used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic
Duel No Prize, is a digital award that we post

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on Instagram for the person that we feel gave
the best answer to our question of the week.

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Last week, we asked, What has been your favorite
live-action Marvel or DC television series

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so far and why? And that was coming off of the
hype of the Green Lantern casting for the upcoming

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Lantern series on HBO. We got a number of answers.
Let's break down this week's honorable mentions

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before revealing the no prize winner. Our first
honorable mention goes to Colby Henches who

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said, hey boys Colby Henches The best live-action
comic show from Marvel or DC was Marvel's Runaways

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on Hulu. It was three seasons It was amazingly
cast and acted. They even brought the girl

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who played Nico back to play her again in the
Marvel Midnight Suns video game I don't regret

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a minute of that show. It was fun start to finish.
It should have had more seasons. So this one

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gets the honorable mention right out of the
gate because I feel like it was controversial,

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at least as far as my feelings go regarding
the Runaways television series. If you listen

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to our review of the Runaways season two, which
is the only season that we reviewed on this

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podcast, you'll note that I didn't really like
the changes that the show had made from the

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original comic book series, which I... I thought
it was a lot more exciting than the television

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show. The television show kind of became its
own thing. And I'll admit that it was well

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cast and the special effects were great, but
it was largely a teen drama, which is how I

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guess you could describe the comic book series.
But there was a lot more adrenaline and suspense

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and fantastical elements in the comic book series
that weren't present in the live action show.

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But I appreciate an opinion that differs from
mine. I don't know if Colby Hentges is a fan

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of the Runaways comic books. but I know that
a lot of people really like The Runaways and

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it was always interesting to get their perspective
on why. I feel like it appealed to a younger

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generation than you and I are. Man, that's cool,
that's fine. I do have to say though that the

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comic book series, while I never read it, I
am a big fan of the author, Brian K. Vaughan.

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He wrote another one of my favorite series,
Why the Last Man. It was a DC Vertigo comic

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book. Fantastic piece of literature. Brian K.
Vaughan is the man. And I kind of wish they

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would have adapted the comic series more faithfully
in the television series. But critics like

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The Runaways too, so yeah, maybe it should have
got more seasons, but I think that ended due

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to Marvel Studios' takeover of Marvel Television.
Yeah, that's right. Great answer, Colby. Our

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next honorable mention goes to Michael Williams.
Who said? Mike Williams, I was saying goes

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to Missouri. Live action show between DC, the
Peacemaker, and Teen Titans. Really loved Peacemaker

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the last episode where the Justice League showed
up. As far as Marvel, Falcon, Winter Soldier.

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Enjoy your show. And as always, make mine Marvel.
Take care. Yeah, in reference to the Teen Titans

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series, I think he's referring to the live action
Titan series that was on Max, which I think

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got better season by season. Peacemaker is also
on Max. I love that show, which was written

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by James Gunn, the new head of the DCU. And
I'm really looking forward to season two, along

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with everything else he's going to bring to
the universe. Yeah, and Michael also mentioned

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for Marvel, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
Disney Plus series, and yeah, for my money,

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the first episode of that series had one of
the best MCU action scenes of all time. Great

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answer, Michael. Our next honorable mention
goes to Daniel Alonso. Who said? Okay, well,

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there's only one answer for this, and it's gotta
be Daredevil. I mean, hands down. It's got

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incredible fight scenes, the cinematography
is amazing. The freaking acting, the all-star

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cast, Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofrio, John Bernthal,
Debra Anne Wohl, like come on, it's incredible.

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And Daredevil, oh my god, we finally get Daredevil
how he should be. Dude, there's not enough

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that I can say about that. I mean, yeah, hands
down, it's gotta be Daredevil, there's no other

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answer. That's it. Daredevil's not just one
of the best superhero television series out

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there, it's one of the best television series
of all time, period. It's so well made. and

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I think it truly transcends the comic book genre
and totally appeals to fans of crime series

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and stuff like that as well. I can't say enough
good things about the Daredevil show. Yeah,

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I definitely agree with you about it transcending
the genre, particularly in season 3. That season,

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I was just riveted every episode. It was so
damn good. I've gotten pretty nervous with

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the character popping up in the Spider-Man movie
and She-Hulk. I really don't want Disney to

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ruin the character. But it looks like with all
of the different crew changes and reshoots

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that they've done with the upcoming Daredevil
Born Again series, it should be pretty good.

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I don't think there's anything to worry about
regarding the show making its transition from

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Netflix to Disney+, because it's been confirmed
that on Disney+, Daredevil Born Again is going

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to be TVMA. And judging from, you know, the
leaked trailers and stuff that have come out

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of New York Comic Con and D23, it's going to
be incredible, still keeping in the tone of

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the Netflix show. And they announced the premiere
date for... Daredevil Born Again. It's going

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to be March 4th, 2025, and the season is going
to be nine episodes. Are you serious? I didn't

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know that. Oh, it's going to be forever until
March now. Dig it. Yeah, it's quite a ways

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away. But good things come to those who wait,
as they say. We as comic book movie fans know

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this most of the time. Great answer, Daniel.
We want to give a quick shout out to Mason

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Thompson for taking the time to visit our website
and record an answer. But the winner of this

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week's no prize is Travis Bailey. Who said?
Hey, what's up Travis Bailey. Shout out to

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my good twin. Look, Marvel, everybody knows
this, dominates every form of media as far

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as common sense is concerned. Print, movies,
animation, yes, animation. But if we're being

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honest, it has to be watchmen. I mean, the product
that they put out on HBO, I mean, known for

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pressing these television, it did not disappoint.
Got some Emmy nods. It validates everything

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incessant DC fans say about their work. I think
the main point that we want to take away from

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Travis Bailey's answer is that Marvel dominates
everything over DC, including animation. Except

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apparently television, which I guess you're
admitting. No, yeah, Watchmen hands down is

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the best series that I think has ever been produced
as an adaptation from the comics. Now, of course,

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the Watchmen series was a sequel to the Watchmen
comic, but holy cow, was it a phenomenal one.

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It was a better sequel than anything DC has
produced since then. including Doomsday Clock.

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I don't know if Watchmen is a better show than
Daredevil. Yes, it is. But it's up there. It

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was a really damn good show for sure. And not
only did it get a few Emmy nods, it freaking

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won more Emmys the year it came out than any
other show it was competing against. It won

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a Peabody Award, which is unheard of. Like a
television series, one based off of a comic

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book that wins a Peabody, incredible. Yeah,
if you haven't seen Watchmen on HBO, and you're

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a fan of Watchmen, definitely check it out,
because it was really well conceived, really

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well made. Yeah, Damon Lindelof served as the
showrunner for Watchmen, and he's also serving

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as the showrunner for the upcoming Lantern series,
which gets me super, super pumped for that.

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So congrats to Travis Bailey for winning this
week's No Prize. If you, the listener, want

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a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned
to later on in this episode when we'll be asking

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another question of the week. And now that that's
done, on to the news.

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So last week, James Gunn on social media not
only confirmed that crypto will be in the upcoming

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Superman movie that's going to hit theaters
in 2025, but he also shared the first look

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at crypto as he's sitting next to Superman on
the moon overlooking the planet Earth. And

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I just want to give the dog a huge hug because
he's so cuddly. And don't deny you don't either.

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I'm good. I'm good, bro. You know, you know
that is just like the scruffiest, just fluffiest

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dog ever. want to pet that guy. In the social
media post where he made the announcement,

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James Gunn talked about the inspiration for
including crypto in this movie and it was a

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dog that he had rescued named Ozu and he was
talking about how when they first got him he

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was just destroying everything in the house
and it kind of inspired James Gunn to be like

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oh what if Ozu had superpowers like that would
be so much more wild and possibly humorous.

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So it kind of indicated a comedic tone that
crypto may have in the Superman movie. So does

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that mean that the Superman movie is gonna be
about how Superman gets crypto? No, I don't

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believe so. We're entering the DCU as an established
universe. And so I think crypto is just gonna

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be, you know, one of Superman's allies in the
film. I'm not sure how large of a role he'll

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have in the movie, considering it looks like
he's CG and he may be expensive to produce.

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But I also just love the fact that they're including
him. We haven't seen crypto since League of

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Superpets, the animated film. But it's really
cool to actually see him make the jump to live

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action. What do you think of the image itself
of Superman sitting nice to crypto on the moon?

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I love this image. I really freaking love it.
It made me so much happier than I thought it

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would and just kind of really washed all of
the bad taste of Joker 2 out of my mouth. I

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think DC fans are getting a little bit overhyped
about this image because essentially you're

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just looking at Superman's back and crypto's
back and it's like, who cares, right? But it's

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like an iconic. looking image like it just framed
really well as they look over the planet and

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it's just a joy I guess to see Superman with
his dog. I guess so. You cold-hearted piece

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of shit! Why? Because I'm not gushing all over
this image. It's been posted to death by this

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point. Like I'm sick of seeing it as a teaser
image. It's fine but like I'm waiting for a

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trailer already. Oh same. Yeah absolutely. The
movie comes out in summer of next year so...

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I actually think we'll be getting a teaser trailer
soon, maybe by the holiday season. Yeah, I'd

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put my money on that. Around Christmas time
we'll get the trailer for Superman. Fingers

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crossed. Moving on to the trailers that were
released during New York Comic Con, starting

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with Creature Commandos. This show is coming
out December 5th and it's going to kick off

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James Gunn's DCU. We've already seen some footage
from the teaser trailer, but this is the first

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official trailer that has been released by DC
Studios. The premise of the show is setting

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up. is that because the government found out
about Amanda Waller's Task Force X or Suicide

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Squad due to the events at the end of Peacemaker
Season 1, she's now forced to pull from a different

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set of prisoners, namely ones that aren't human,
in order to accomplish these dangerous and

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possible tasks, and that is the Creature Commandos.
From this trailer, it looks like the core team's

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roster is going to be The Bride, Dr. Phosphorus,
Weasel, Dr. Nina Mazursky, and GI Robot. Frankenstein

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is also going to be making appearances and he's
going to be voiced by David Harbour, but it

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looks like maybe he's just a side character
for the team. He won't be there the whole time.

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And of course, Rick Flagg Sr. voiced by Frank
Urlo is also a member of the team. Is the villain

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Magenta at the beginning of this trailer? It
looks like her kinda. I don't believe so. I

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don't actually know who this character is. I
think it's Cersei because I

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in the show. So my bet is that it's her. We
also get to see Clayface in this trailer, which

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I thought was pretty surprising because I didn't
know he was going to show up either. Yeah,

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Clayface is just showing up everywhere, isn't
he? This is like the year of Clayface, I swear

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to God. Between Suicide Squad, Isekai, Batman
Caped Crusader, and his guest appearance in

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Kite Men, hell yeah, season one. Yeah, he's
all over the place. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

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And he looks really cool in this trailer. I
swear if they adapt this version to live I

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will lose my mind, because that would just be
incredible. There's also some cameos from some

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rather obscure characters, including Kongarilla
and Rubber Duck. I've never heard of that character

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before, but apparently it's a thing. The show
looks like it's going to be really good. I

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especially like the character arcs that it looks
like we're getting for The Bride and Dr. Nina

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Mazursky, and G.I. Robot. I think the show is
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to see it when it comes out in early December.
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show. I love the creature commandos. It does
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violent, but that's pretty much in keeping with
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so I'm not surprised. Yeah, as everyone knows,
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of kind of spooky characters, so that brings
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Who do you think is the scariest Marvel or DC
character and why? Yeah, we'll be going through

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these answers for our next episode, which will
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at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone
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our favorite answer and award that person a
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Be sure to answer before October 26th. Another
DC trailer also came out during New York Comic

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Con, Batman Ninja versus Yakuza League. I loved
the first Batman Ninja and everything I see

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coming out about this sequel just gets me more
and more pumped for this film. In the previous

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teaser trailer that we got for this, we speculated
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resulted. in the future being affected and influencing
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particularly in Gotham City. But it actually
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folded on top of Gotham City, sort of like origami.
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ruled over by a Yakuza League or different Justice
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of themselves, or at least most of them are.
It kind of seems like Wonder Woman might be

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good in this movie whereas everyone else is
bad? Well it's like competing Japanese factions.

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The Ninkyo versus the Yakuza. And I thought
it was really cool how it looks like the islands

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of Japan are over Gotham City. So you have things
like Yakuza storms where they just rain down

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onto Gotham City and cause chaos. Which is wild
because the Yakuza storms are actually Yakuza

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gangsters just like flooding a city. It's pretty
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Particularly Aquaman as we get to see a little
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Woman are also really cool I can't wait to see
Superman. They're still hiding him from us

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I figure he's gonna be the main bad guy or at
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looks like Rosselle Gould is heavily involved
in whatever is going on with these dimensional

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folds. The story looks like it's gonna be really
good too really heartfelt You know like the

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line from Batman who says it's most dangerous
when a friend becomes an enemy and things like

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that seems pretty deep And everything the only
thing that I don't like about this project

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is the animation itself is no good. Especially
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And how that was hand drawn traditional anime
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shit. There were parts of Batman Ninja in the
first one that were computer animated that

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I really liked, like the statues of the villains
that Catwoman was introducing Batman to when

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she was setting up the feudal world that Batman
was currently in within Japan. I do hope we'll

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get more animation in that style, but who knows?
I agree. Like Suicide Squad Isekai totally

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ruined a lot of other DC animation for me, but
I'm still looking forward to the story for

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this one. It's coming out in early 2025. We
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for it then. But speaking of bad-looking CG,
the last trailer we want to talk about this

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episode is the official trailer for Watchmen
Chapter 2. Now, if you've listened to our review

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for Watchmen Chapter 1, care for that film.
It was kind of pointless. Yeah, being an inferior

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version adaptation-wise of the Zack Snyder 2009
live-action film, this kind of felt a little

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bit redundant. And the second part to the Watchmen
animated movie also looks the same. I mean,

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yeah, not only was it not as good as Zack Snyder's
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either in that it tries to be a perfect adaptation
of the book and yet fails to capture a lot

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of the things of what makes the book in the
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that, it's really hard to get excited for Watchmen
Chapter 2. The animation still looks like it's

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going to be very wooden and not nearly as good
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being said, the second half of the Watchmen
story has some incredible moments like Rorschach's

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origin story, the prison escape scene, the fight
in Karnak. So there's a lot to look forward

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to story-wise here. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, some
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the second half. The first half was really all
built up for this, right? Including a killer

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twist. I'm really interested in seeing the design
of the squid and how they incorporate that

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here. I wonder if it'll be as good as what they
showed in the HBO Watchmen series, or if it'll

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look more like the comics or what it'll look
like. Well, based on what we've seen from this

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two part film. It's gonna be almost exactly
like what we've seen in the comics considering

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that they're really trying their hardest to
capture artist Dave Gibbons style. It's not

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gonna top what we saw in the Watchmen television
series. I already know that. I'm already prepared

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for that. Really, I'm prepared for the whole
damn thing because, again, I read this book

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like once every year, every two years. I know
it by heart, basically. So there's not much

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to look forward to. Maybe for people new to
this story, but like we said in our review,

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I think if someone's coming in new, I would
just recommend a different adaptation than

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this one. Or just, you know, read the original
comic. Oh, absolutely. I have multiple versions

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of the graphic novel for that very purpose.
Someone tells me they haven't read Watchmen.

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I'm like, here, take it. Just take it and read
it. I'm not anticipating any kind of surprise

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with this adaptation. Again, I think it's going
to be very much by the numbers from the comic,

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but who knows? We'll see. Part two of this film
is coming out on digital and Blu-ray on November

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26th. So we will be reviewing this in a little
bit over a month. If you haven't read Watchmen

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and don't know how it ends, read the comic before
part two comes out and before you watch that.

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Or if you're a Marvel fan, just go on living
your life because who cares? If you're a Marvel

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fan, you should read Watchmen so that you know
what a good comic is.

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But that does it for all the news for this episode,
so let's go ahead and get into our main event,

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which will be a team duel between the spook-tastic
Marvel and DC teams of creature commandos and

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the Legion of Monsters.

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Alright, Creature Commandos vs. The Legion of
Monsters. We decided to go with this duel episode

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along with the executive producers because it
was just too good of an opportunity to pass

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up. You know, we got a lot of great feedback
last year when we did the deceased vs. Marvel

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zombies and this is always a fun time of year
to do these type of duel episodes. It is nice

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to do something special around these seasons.
Yeah, absolutely. Especially when it comes

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to characters that I love like the Creature
Commandos. Yeah, we figured this would be good

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to do in lead up to the Creature Commandos animated
television show that'll be coming out in a

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few months. Both teams are comprised of like
classic Halloween creatures. It's kind of like

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the Monster Mash of Marvel and DC. Absolutely.
This is going to be a graveyard smash. When

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did the Creature Commandos originate in DC Comics
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Legion of Monsters came out in the 1970s. And
actually, the Legion of Monsters number one

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issue was published by an imprint of Marvel
called Curtis Comics that refused to carry

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the Comics Code Authority seal. So they could
tell these more supernatural stories, like

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with Dracula and Frankenstein and the creature
from the Black Lagoon, or Manfibian, as he's

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known in Marvel. Well, I guess it looks like
Marvel came out first here, because the Creature

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Commandos didn't come out until 1980. What a
rip-off. Damn ripoff. Hey, hey, it's like you

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always tell me. It's not about who comes first,
it's about who does it better. So Legion of

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Monsters then. Alright, but to explain the methodology
behind our duels, let's go to our sentient

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duel simulator Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ and IK
tell our listeners how you go about determining

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a winner in our duel matchups. Yes, of course,
sir. The way I determine a winner between the

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two teams is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations
between every character on each team using

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their statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is
a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes

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through random sampling. In this case, I randomised
the statistics along a normal distribution

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as a way to simulate the many variables that
can occur during battle. The stat parameters

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are based on the official Marvel power grid,
from which the DC characters statistics are

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extrapolated. Additional stat categories are
included such as range, damage potential, versatility

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and perception in order to create a more detailed
and accurate simulation. The results of the

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49,000 simulations provide a percentage of wins
for each character on both teams. The team

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with the higher average win rate is declared
the victor as they have a higher probability

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to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing,
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The comic book stories have shown that there's
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the confidence rate of my method falls in line
with the precedents that have been established

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in the source material. My mathematical simulations
are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are

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not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes
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Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though,
we like to break down each team's histories

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and rosters before improvising a scenario on
how we imagine one of the thousands of simulations

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would play out beat for beat. And I believe
it's my turn to go first with the DC team's

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backstory, so let me tell you all about the
creature commandos. Now during World War II,

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the United States government launched a top-secret
project known as Project M, aimed at creating

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experimental super-soldiers and psychological
weapons. Led by Professor Mazursky, the program

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operated from a hidden laboratory beneath the
Statue of Liberty. Recognizing the fear that

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monsters evoked, Mazursky aimed to weaponize
this by transforming volunteers into grotesque

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beings inspired by classic horror archetypes.
The first volunteers included Warren Griffith,

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a soldier suffering from delusions of lycanthropy,
who was transformed into a werewolf. Vincent

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Velcro, a court-martialed soldier turned into
a vampire, and Elliot Lucky Taylor, a severely

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wounded soldier reconstructed as a patchwork
Frankenstein-esque monster. Dr. Myrna Rhodes,

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a plastic surgeon exposed to mutagenic chemicals
that transformed her into a gorgon with snakes

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for hair, also joined the team as Dr. Medusa.
This team became the Creature Commandos, led

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by the hardened Lieutenant Matthew Shreve, who
often viewed the commandos as mere tools for

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the war effort. The Creature Commandos were
deployed across Europe and beyond, taking on

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both conventional and supernatural threats.
Their first mission in France involved destroying

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Nazi android duplicates of allied leaders, proving
their effectiveness as a strike team. Operating

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out of London, including the mission to rescue
Dr. Rene Frederique, a scientist with knowledge

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of chemical nerve gas. Though the commandos
initially rescued a Nazi agent posing as Frederique.

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In a rare moment of humanity, the agent sacrificed
herself to save the team, challenging the commandos

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perspective. The team eventually found the real
Dr. Frederique in a death camp, but under orders,

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killed her to prevent her knowledge from falling
into enemy hands. This mission deeply affected

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the team, particularly Lucky Taylor, who attempted
suicide afterward. Though doctors repaired

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his body, the trauma left him mute. As their
missions continued, the commandos faced morally

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ambiguous tasks, testing their loyalty and moral
compass. One mission involved eliminating Nazi

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super soldier children at a German boarding
school. While the commandos hesitated to kill

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children, Shreef took matters into his own hands
and gunned them down, creating a rift within

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the team. Despite these dark tasks, the commandos
also found moments of redemption. In one mission,

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they rescued a group of blind French children
from a Nazi attack, earning medals of honor.

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Yet internal conflict persisted and Shreeve
briefly left the team, feeling his leadership

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style was too harsh. After a successful mission,
rescuing French civilians, Shreeve was reinstated.

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In 1943, the commandos were sent to the South
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of allied planes near Dinosaur Island. There
they discovered a hidden Japanese naval fleet

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and turned the island's dinosaurs against the
enemy ships, using the creatures as weapons.

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Shrieve documented the dinosaurs for military
intelligence, but Velcro destroyed the photographs,

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fearing that war would bring destruction to
these creatures. The commandos later returned

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to Dinosaur Island where they encountered Jake,
the first GI robot. Together they discovered

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a supposed lost colony of Atlantis. responsible
for sinking ships. Atlantean robots had taken

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control of Jake, but he ultimately overrode
their programming and sacrificed himself to

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destroy the colony, preventing further attacks
on allied vessels. Following Jake's destruction,

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the commandos met his replacement Jake II, who
joined the team and expanded their capabilities.

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As World War II neared its end, Project Am tasked
the commandos with a final mission, piloting

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an experimental The rocket malfunctioned, veering
off course and drifting into space with the

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commandos aboard. With the original team lost,
Project M later shifted its focus to creating

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new super soldiers. Over time, the program produced
a series of new recruits to replace the original

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commandos, expanding its reach beyond traditional
monsters. One such recruit was Captain Lucius

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Hunter, who took over leadership duties in place
of Shrieve. Hunter, an older veteran who had

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undergone extensive rejuvenation therapies,
led a new iteration of the creature commandos

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called M-Team Alpha. M-Team Alpha included fresh
faces like a Ten, a mummy-like communication

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specialist, the Bog Man, an amphibious creature
resembling a Gill Man, and Gunner Mackie, a

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revived World War II soldier turned into a cyborg
zombie. This modernized version of the Creature

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Commandos continued Project M's legacy, adapting
to new threats and expanding its roster to

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face evolving challenges. Years later, the original
Creature Commandos were discovered aboard an

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alien vessel controlled by Brainiac. Freed from
stasis, they joined forces with other heroes

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to fight their captors. Upon returning to Earth,
the team was captured by General Sam Lane and

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integrated into Project

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Cryptonians. Despite their capture, the Commandos
were never deployed against the Cryptonians

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during the tensions between Earth and New Krypton.
Following the disbandment of Project 7734,

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Maxwell Lord took control of the Commandos and
deployed them against the Justice League International.

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Under Lord's telepathic influence, the Commandos
fought for a time but eventually broke free

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from his mind control. Realizing they no longer
had a clear purpose or allegiance in this new

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era, The Commandos faced uncertainty as their
monstrous forms and tortured pasts left them

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relics of a bygone age. In the post-Flashpoint
timeline, the Creature Commandos were reimagined

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as field operatives for the secretive organization,
SHADE, or the Superhuman Advanced Defense Executive.

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This version of the team was led by Frankenstein,
replacing the original leader, Matthew Shreve.

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Dr. Nina Mazursky, now a scientist and geneticist
for SHADE, spearheaded the program, using the

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legacy of Project M to design a new generation
of creature commandos. Mazursky herself transformed

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into a hybrid amphibious creature resembling
a Gill-Man to better fight alongside her creations.

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Vincent Velcorro was again turned into a vampire,
with his abilities derived from a modified

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version of Dr. Kirk Langstrom's Manbat serum,
wherein Griffith retained his werewolf form,

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now more stable and controlled, allowing him
to harness his primal nature more effectively.

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The team also included Khalees, an enigmatic
Egyptian mummy whose origin remained a mystery,

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but who served as the team's medic. Under Frankenstein's
leadership, the commandos tackled a range of

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supernatural threats. One of their missions
involved combating giant monsters emerging

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from Bone Lake, Washington, showcasing their
role as humanity's frontline against the monstrous

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and supernatural. The team faced personal challenges
as well. The bride, Frankenstein's estranged

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wife, departed after learning the fate of their
son, leaving a void in the team's dynamic.

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Despite their monstrous appearances, the Commandos
remained dedicated to defending humanity, evolving

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under Mazurski's guidance as she continued merging
cutting-edge science with the macabre legacy

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of Project M. Team-wise, I knew that for my
seven-person roster, I'd want a blend of the

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old, original team members that showcased classic
monster archetypes with the newer more tech

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and occult focused commandos that we've seen
in recent iterations of the team. From the

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early roster, I'm including Warren Griffith,
the werewolf, Vincent Velcoro, the vampire,

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Dr. Mira Rhodes, aka Dr. Medusa, and the GI
robot, Jake 2. Noticeably absent from this

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original roster is Lieutenant Shreve, because
who wants a human on a monster team, and Lucky

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Taylor, whom I'm replacing with Frankenstein.
who you can learn more about in our Frankenstein

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vs Bloodstone duel episode. Along for the ride
will be Frankenstein's bride, as well as a

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third agent of shade, Dr. Nina Mazursky, the
aquatic kill woman responsible for creating

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the newest versions of the commandos. So to
recap, that's Frankenstein, his bride, Lady

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Frankenstein, the werewolf Griffith, the vampire
Vel'Koro, Dr. Medusa, Dr. Mazursky, and Jake

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II, the GI robot. I think one of the most interesting
things I learned there was that the team was

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created in World War II just because the professor
wanted soldiers that would be scary in a traditional

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Halloween monster sense. Yeah, he wanted to
scare Nazis with classic Hollywood monsters,

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essentially. That's kind of lame. That's okay.
Kind of an anticlimactic origin for the team,

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I think. Like if they were to make a creature
commandos for today, they would create soldiers

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that look like, I don't know, Freddy Krueger
or Mike Myers or something like that. I don't

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know, it seems weird. But sure, in concept,
they're a cool team, but not as cool as the

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Legion of Monsters. Let me go ahead and break
down their backstory. The Legion of Monsters

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was never a traditional superhero team. It was
a collection of outcasts brought together by

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strange circumstances and united by their monstrous
nature. The original lineup came together during

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an encounter with the Starseed, the benevolent
alien entity. While investigating its appearance,

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Morbius, the living vampire, Werewolf by Night,
Man-Thing, and Ghost Rider found themselves

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drawn together. Overcome by their monstrous
hungers, Morbius and Werewolf by Night attacked

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Starseed, inadvertently causing its death. The
dying starseed, in a final act of mercy, tried

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to cure the Legion of their monstrous forms,
but was too weak to succeed. Disillusioned,

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the team parted ways, barely recognizing themselves
as a team, not yet realizing that they had

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laid the foundation for something much larger.
Now, Jack Russell, also known as Werewolf by

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Night, inherited his curse from his father's
bloodline, transforming into a werewolf with

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every full moon. Though he initially lacked
control, he graduelly learned to manage his

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transformations. making him a powerful ally
when the Legion briefly came together to investigate

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Starseed. Russell's superhuman strength, speed,
heightened senses, and near savers vulnerability

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to Silver made him one of the most fearsome
members of the Legion of Monsters, though the

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team's dissolution left him once again wandering
the world alone. You can learn more about him

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in our Solomon Grundy vs. Werewolf by Night
duel episode. Years later, Morbius found himself

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at the helm of a new incarnation of the Legion
of Monsters. this time with a clearer mission,

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to protect monsters from being hunted. The world
had grown increasingly hostile toward any creatures

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perceived as a threat, and Morbius, along with
his old ally Man-Thing, sought to create a

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safe haven for monsters. They were soon joined
by the Living Mummy, Man-Phybian, and Simon

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Garth the Zombie. The Living Mummy, once known
as Nkantu, was the prince of a North African

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tribe before being captured and cursed by Egyptian
priests. Mummified and held in a state of eternal

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00:38:05,502 --> 00:38:11,285
life, N'Katu awoke in the modern era and joined
the Legion of Monsters. His superhuman strength,

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able to lift around 5 tons, and durability,
along with his immortality, made him a valuable

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00:38:16,607 --> 00:38:21,589
protector of those who could not defend themselves.
Although he longed for peace, his curse bound

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00:38:21,629 --> 00:38:26,832
him to a world he barely understood. Manphibian,
an alien who had traveled to Earth thousands

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00:38:26,872 --> 00:38:31,794
of years ago while pursuing the murderer of
his mate, also joined the Legion's ranks. His

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00:38:31,834 --> 00:38:38,015
amphibious physiology gave him tremendous strength,
able to lift around 15 tons, sharp claws, a

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00:38:38,035 --> 00:38:43,617
healing factor, and skin tough enough to withstand
missile attacks. Simon Garth the Zombie had

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once been a businessman in New Orleans before
being sacrificed by a voodoo cult and transformed

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00:38:49,098 --> 00:38:54,560
into a zombie. Though bound by the amulet of
Damballa, which allowed his controller to command

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00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,621
him, Garth retained a shred of humanity that
fueled his desire to protect those who could

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00:38:59,641 --> 00:39:04,764
not protect themselves. As part of the Legion,
Garth used his immense strength, mystical senses,

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and healing abilities to fight with the Legion
for a better future for all monsters. As the

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Legion solidified its purpose, they established
Monster Metropolis, a sanctuary city hidden

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00:39:15,332 --> 00:39:20,596
beneath the streets of New York in the Moorlach
tunnels. This underground refuge provided safety

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00:39:20,636 --> 00:39:24,879
to countless creatures, but it also put the
Legion in direct conflict with groups like

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the Hunter of Monster Special Forces, led by
Robert Hellsguard. During one battle between

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00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:35,434
the groups, the Legion resurrected the Punisher,
transforming him into the Monsters' Frankencastle.

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00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:40,837
With his newfound form, Frankencastle fought
alongside the Legion to defend Monster Metropolis,

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00:39:41,277 --> 00:39:45,540
though his return to humanity would eventually
lead him away from the team. You can learn

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more about this in our Red Hood vs Punisher
duel episode. As the Legion of Monsters grew,

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their ranks began to attract other powerful
beings, including the half-demon daughter of

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Marduk Kurios, aka Satan. Satana spent years
as a succubus, feeding on the souls of men

434
00:40:03,466 --> 00:40:09,309
to sustain her powers. When she joined the Legion,
her mastery over black magic, teleportation,

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and hellfire proved invaluable in their battles.
Though her motivations often remained mysterious,

436
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:19,835
Satana's raw power made her a force to be reckoned
with, and her demonic nature tied her fate

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00:40:19,876 --> 00:40:25,110
to the other monsters who sought refuge in Monster
Metropolis. While the Legion of Monsters fought

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to protect their own, another group was forming
in the shadows, this time under the auspices

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of SHIELD, the global peacekeeping organization.
The team was called the Howling Commandos,

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00:40:35,253 --> 00:40:39,894
and they were a special unit tasked with handling
supernatural threats that ordinary agents could

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00:40:39,914 --> 00:40:45,656
not. Based at Area 13, a secret facility designed
to contain paranormal entities, the Howling

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Commandos recruited several members of the Legion
of Monsters, including the living mummy Manfibian,

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and Zombie, who formed a new strike force against
supernatural and extraterrestrial dangers.

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00:40:57,216 --> 00:41:01,798
Alongside these veterans came new recruits,
including Nina Price, the Vampire by Night.

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00:41:02,358 --> 00:41:08,241
Nina, the niece of Werewolf by Night, had inherited
the family's curse of lycanthropy, but was

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00:41:08,321 --> 00:41:13,843
later bitten by a vampire, transforming her
into a hybrid of both creatures. She joined

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00:41:13,883 --> 00:41:18,125
the Hellen Commandos to keep her powers in check,
and quickly became an integral part of the

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00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:24,191
team. using her supernatural strength able to
lift half a ton, agility, hypnosis, fangs,

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00:41:24,571 --> 00:41:29,512
and healing abilities to fight against mystical
threats. Her immunity to sunlight made her

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a unique asset as she could operate during the
day, something most vampires could not. Another

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00:41:34,834 --> 00:41:40,296
addition to the Howling Commandos was Glob,
a creature formed when Joe Timms, a petty criminal,

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00:41:40,716 --> 00:41:46,277
drowned in a radioactive swamp and was resurrected
as a near indestructible monster. Despite his

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00:41:46,317 --> 00:41:51,265
simple-mindedness, Glob's immense strength,
able to lift around 100 tons, and resilience

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00:41:51,325 --> 00:41:55,488
made him an effective member of the Howling
Commandos, particularly in missions where brute

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00:41:55,508 --> 00:42:01,293
force was needed. His body, made of swamp matter,
could absorb physical attacks with little effect,

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00:42:01,613 --> 00:42:06,037
making him nearly impossible to harm. The Howling
Commandos' first major mission came when they

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00:42:06,057 --> 00:42:11,161
were called to stop the ancient sorcerer Merlin
from transforming England into a mythical kingdom.

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00:42:11,542 --> 00:42:16,794
They launched a daring assault on Merlin's forces,
ultimately forcing the wizard to retreat. His

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00:42:16,814 --> 00:42:21,115
victory cemented the Hellenic Commandos as a
key player in SHIELD's Supernatural division

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00:42:21,475 --> 00:42:26,876
and the team continued to take on threats ranging
from demonic invasions to rogue mystical artifacts.

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As both the Legion of Monsters and the Hellenic
Commandos battled supernatural threats, the

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members constantly confronted the duelity of
their existence. They fought not only to protect

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their fellow Monsters, but also to reconcile
the parts of themselves that were both human

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00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:45,141
and monstrous. Choosing the roster for this
Legion of Monsters team duel was particularly

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difficult. because a lot of Marvel's most prominent
supernatural characters like Morbius, Ghostwriter,

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and Man-Thing I already used in our Justice
League Dark vs. Midnight Suns duel episode.

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00:42:56,514 --> 00:43:01,096
That being said, there was still Werewolf by
Night and a slew of other prominent Halloween-ish

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00:43:01,116 --> 00:43:06,039
characters I could pull from for this Halloween
duel. First on my list, of course, is Werewolf

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00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:11,001
by Night, who was a founding member of the Legion
of Monsters and the Howling Commandos. Next

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is the Living Mummy. who was also an early member
of both teams alongside Zombie and Manfibian.

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00:43:17,489 --> 00:43:22,092
Satana became a prominent member of the Legion
of Monsters in their second iteration, and

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from the Howling Commandos I'm pulling two members
that are largely serving as stand-ins for Legion

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of Monsters characters. And that's Vampire by
Night, who's substituting for Morbius, and

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Glob, who I'm substituting for Man-Thing. Because
if you're gonna have a Halloween creature duel,

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you need a Vampire and a Swamp Monster. So that's
my lineup. Werewolf by Night, The Living Mummy,

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Zombie, Manfibian, Satana, Vampire by Night,
and Glob, the Swamp Monster. Your names are

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00:43:52,388 --> 00:43:59,212
terrible. What? Yeah. Why? I said it. Griffith,
Vel'Koro, Mizzurski, those are way better names.

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00:43:59,532 --> 00:44:06,216
Those are just fucking last names. And? Better
than fucking Glob. Glob is a Hulk villain.

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00:44:06,336 --> 00:44:11,973
It's a great name for a Glob-ish creature. Zombie?
Yeah, Zombie is a zombie. Do you know any other

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00:44:12,013 --> 00:44:14,861
villains named Zombie? Just saying, it's a little
on the nose.

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Well now that we got these teams, histories,
and rosters out of the way, let's speculate

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00:45:13,712 --> 00:45:17,955
on how one of the simulated matches will go.
Now the winning team is going to be determined

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00:45:17,975 --> 00:45:22,579
by simulations, not the speculation, but it's
fun to imagine how the fight could play out.

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00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:28,543
AJ and IK, what are the rules of our speculation?
Well, I should say there are no rules, other

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than the teams have no prior knowledge of the
other going into the fight. All they are aware

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of starting out is that the other side is a
threat that needs to be eliminated. For the

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00:45:37,649 --> 00:45:42,772
speculation... groups will begin approximately
50 meters apart in a nondescript environment

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that will have no bearing on the match itself,
as no environmental statistics are considered

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00:45:47,576 --> 00:45:52,800
in my simulations. The teams must earn victory
on their own merit." Alright then, let's get

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into it. The creature commandos and the legion
of monsters meet on the battlefield. Which

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00:45:58,384 --> 00:46:02,607
team goes first? Well, I mean, I don't know
how my team would start. You know, they're

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00:46:02,627 --> 00:46:08,651
a military team, so most of them, like Frankenstein,
Lady Frankenstein, Dr. Medusa, Jake 2, even

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00:46:08,671 --> 00:46:14,034
Nina Mazurski, they all have guns. So they're
just going to start by gunning down the League

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00:46:14,054 --> 00:46:18,856
of Monsters and the hail of bullets. Well, you
know that most of the Legion of Monsters are

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00:46:18,876 --> 00:46:23,939
like invulnerable to gunfire, right? Like no
werewolf by night can only be killed by silver

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00:46:23,979 --> 00:46:28,181
bullets. Same thing with vampire by night. Living
mummy and zombie, you know, they can't really

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00:46:28,201 --> 00:46:33,124
be hurt too much by small arms fire, manfibian,
the bullets would bounce off of them and the

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00:46:33,164 --> 00:46:37,486
glob would just like completely no sell these
bullets. So I guess the only one that could

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00:46:37,747 --> 00:46:43,170
be shot is Satana, but she's probably also one
of the most powerful members on my team. So

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00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:46,952
Satana is gonna dodge the bullets by flying
up into the air, and then she's just gonna

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00:46:47,112 --> 00:46:52,416
rain down hellfire, like grenades just exploding
all over the battlefield. And it's gonna scatter

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00:46:52,696 --> 00:46:56,758
the creature commandos all over, and it's gonna
make them stop shooting and start diving for

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00:46:56,798 --> 00:47:03,262
cover. Okay, well, as the team scatters, I'm
gonna say that Vel'Koro... dodges the flames

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00:47:03,302 --> 00:47:09,604
by transforming into a bat, so he's a smaller
target. And with his transformation comes a

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00:47:09,884 --> 00:47:15,925
rolling mist that's going to surround his teammates
and hide them from the hellfire. And within

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00:47:16,105 --> 00:47:23,247
the mist, Griffith, with his enhanced wolf senses,
he's going to track down Zombie and attack

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00:47:23,287 --> 00:47:29,669
him, just chomping down on his bones. Why Zombie?
Because he smells bad? Because bones, man.

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00:47:29,789 --> 00:47:35,055
Dogs love bones. Well, Zombie doesn't give a
fuck about this werewolf biting down on his

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00:47:35,095 --> 00:47:38,977
bones. In fact, I'll do you one better. I'm
going to say that Griffith straight rips off

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00:47:39,017 --> 00:47:46,362
zombies arm bone and swallows it. OK, so zombies
missing an arm. But all of a sudden, that arm

519
00:47:46,402 --> 00:47:51,925
is going to burst out of Griffith's chest because
it's still animated by zombie. So what Griffith

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00:47:51,985 --> 00:47:57,568
like falls onto his back in pain and he's dead
now. And zombies arm is going to reach up evil

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00:47:57,608 --> 00:48:01,678
death style. Zombie grabs it and attaches it
back to his shoulder. So Griffith's out of

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00:48:01,698 --> 00:48:07,579
the match already. Okay, killing right out the
gate, I see. Well, a lot of these guys are

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00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:13,201
kind of like one trick ponies, you know. That's
true, that's fair. Well, I'm gonna say that

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as Zombie is reattaching his arm back to his
shoulder, all of a sudden, his head freaking

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00:48:18,722 --> 00:48:24,924
explodes because Lady Frankenstein, with her
four arms and four firearms, she just blasts

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00:48:24,964 --> 00:48:30,205
his head with like four simultaneous headshots,
turning his brain to slush. She has four arms?

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00:48:30,826 --> 00:48:34,808
Yeah, yeah, she's like Goro. She doesn't have
forearms in the television show that's coming

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00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:39,390
up. Maybe not at the beginning, but I'm pretty
sure by the end of it she will. That's interesting,

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00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:47,375
okay. All right, so Zombie gets headshot four
times and dies, but Nina Price, you know, the

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00:48:47,395 --> 00:48:52,338
vampire by night, she turns into her wolf form,
because, you know, in addition to being a vampire,

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00:48:52,358 --> 00:48:58,621
she's also a werewolf. She's actually a white
wolf, unlike her uncle, who's brown. But as

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00:48:58,721 --> 00:49:04,447
a werewolf, She uses her senses to track down
Vincent Velcoro, who's still in his vampire

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00:49:04,467 --> 00:49:09,668
bat form, flying around. And she snatches him
out of the air with her teeth, which is gonna

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00:49:09,708 --> 00:49:14,049
force Velcoro into his human form. And vampire
by night is gonna come out of her wolf form.

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00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:19,511
So you have two vampires standing off against
each other, except that Nina also happens to

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00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:25,492
be a vampire hunter. So she just stakes Velcoro
through the heart, killing him. That backstabbing

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00:49:25,573 --> 00:49:31,479
bitch! Oh, by the way, when I say bitch, I'm
only saying that because she's a wolf. Okay,

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00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:36,603
that's fair. She stabbed him in the chest, not
the back. Oh, okay. You know who is backstabbing

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00:49:36,623 --> 00:49:42,928
though, or rather back shooting? Frankenstein.
Because as Vel'Koro is dying, Frankenstein,

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00:49:42,968 --> 00:49:47,652
he's gonna load a silver bullet into a steam
gun, which hits like a steam powered train,

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00:49:48,132 --> 00:49:52,716
and he shoots vampire by night's entire heart
right the hell out of her chest. Where did

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00:49:52,756 --> 00:49:57,558
he get his silver bullet from? Dude. He's going
up against monsters all the time. You think

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00:49:57,578 --> 00:50:04,540
he doesn't carry a silver bullet? That's very
convenient, I'll say that. Werewolf by night

544
00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:09,762
sees this and he's pissed and he lets out a
blood curdling howl because his niece just

545
00:50:09,802 --> 00:50:15,043
died and he goes into a rabid frenzy. And because
Frankenstein took out one of his family, now

546
00:50:15,203 --> 00:50:22,385
Werewolf is gonna take out Frankenstein's bride.
So like in this blur of teeth and claws, Werewolf

547
00:50:22,445 --> 00:50:27,462
is just gonna rip apart Lady Frankenstein. ripping
off all four of her arms in an attack that

548
00:50:27,502 --> 00:50:32,024
basically looks like she was thrown into a blender.
All of her limbs just scatter across the battlefield.

549
00:50:32,624 --> 00:50:38,125
Hmm, okay. Well, with Werewolf by Night in this
frenzy, and he's probably looking around for

550
00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:43,347
another target, and that's when he's gonna meet
the gaze of Dr. Medusa and her glowing eyes.

551
00:50:43,507 --> 00:50:50,009
So BAM! Instant petrification, Werewolf by Night
is now just an angry-looking stone statue.

552
00:50:50,469 --> 00:50:55,751
She could turn people into stone? Okay, so she's
never done it in the comics, but only because

553
00:50:56,172 --> 00:51:00,934
for some reason, anytime she tried to use it
in the comics, the people that she used against

554
00:51:01,114 --> 00:51:09,479
were unable to turn into stone like robots.
Okay, that's weird. Yeah. All right. Bullshit.

555
00:51:09,739 --> 00:51:14,141
Okay. All right. So werewolf by night is a statue,
but living mummy at this point has lumbered

556
00:51:14,282 --> 00:51:18,724
over to Dr. Medusa and he's just gonna grab
her by her snake hair and just slam her to

557
00:51:18,744 --> 00:51:24,551
the ground. Yeah, and he gets bitten by her
snakes. So he's poisoned and dying now. But

558
00:51:24,851 --> 00:51:30,113
how can Living Mummy be poisoned? He doesn't
even have blood in his body. It's like a special

559
00:51:30,273 --> 00:51:36,096
magic Egyptian embalming formula. So he doesn't
get poisoned. Snake poison does nothing. And

560
00:51:36,156 --> 00:51:41,018
Living Mummy just rips Dr. Medusa's head off
like Perseus did to the mythological Medusa.

561
00:51:41,458 --> 00:51:46,640
So she's out. He just rips off her head with
his bare hands? Yeah, he's strong. He can lift

562
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,812
like five tons. Okay. Well, I'm going to say
that... As the living mummy is holding Dr.

563
00:51:52,852 --> 00:51:58,597
Medusa's head, suddenly he just bursts into
flames thanks to Jake Two, who transformed

564
00:51:58,657 --> 00:52:04,442
his left arm into a flamethrower and is just
gousing the living mummy's very, very flammable

565
00:52:04,482 --> 00:52:09,366
body wrappings in a stream of fire. That was
actually a pretty good move because living

566
00:52:09,406 --> 00:52:14,931
mummy is pretty vulnerable to fire since he's
all desiccated and stuff, you know? But uh,

567
00:52:14,971 --> 00:52:21,020
you know who's vulnerable to basically nothing?
Glob. And he's gonna walk over to GI Robot

568
00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:26,424
as he's doing this, and he's gonna completely
swallow him up in his swamp muck body. And

569
00:52:26,444 --> 00:52:30,908
the swamp matter is just gonna ooze into all
of GI Robot's inner workings, like shutting

570
00:52:30,928 --> 00:52:35,932
down his gears and his weapon systems. And Glob
is actually the strongest member out of the

571
00:52:35,972 --> 00:52:40,156
entire Legion of Monsters, you know. His strength
level approaches the Hulk, so just by like

572
00:52:40,296 --> 00:52:45,921
flexing, he completely dismantles the guy. And
then just expels all the robot parts from his

573
00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:54,176
swamp body. So now G.I. Robots out of this match.
OK. Uh, well, Glob was once human, right? Yeah,

574
00:52:54,236 --> 00:53:01,162
he was a criminal named Joe Timms. That's right.
OK. So while Glob is busy shitting out Jake

575
00:53:01,202 --> 00:53:07,727
two parts from his body, that's when Dr. Nina
Mazursky is going to plunge a syringe right

576
00:53:07,767 --> 00:53:13,032
into his thigh, injecting him with a formula
that's going to revert Glob back into human

577
00:53:13,092 --> 00:53:17,703
form. You know, as Joe Timms. And right when
that happens, she's gonna blast his head off

578
00:53:17,743 --> 00:53:23,565
with her energy gun. How does she know how to
turn glob back into a human? She's an expert

579
00:53:24,025 --> 00:53:30,328
in turning humans into monsters. So, yeah, she
just did a reverse formula for that. It's stupid.

580
00:53:30,348 --> 00:53:37,391
I'll allow it. All right. Well, man, Fibian
sees what Dr. Nina Masursky did, and he's a

581
00:53:37,431 --> 00:53:41,953
Gilman creature just like her. But for some
reason, she only breathes water, right? She's

582
00:53:41,993 --> 00:53:46,183
not amphibious like him. Like she always. No,
no. walks around with that water cooler helmet

583
00:53:46,363 --> 00:53:50,905
of hers. She could breathe air. Like initially
she couldn't. She had to wear that helmet full

584
00:53:50,945 --> 00:53:56,369
of water, but the mummy Khaleese made it so
that she could breathe both water and in the

585
00:53:56,489 --> 00:54:02,252
air. Oh, well regardless, Manfebian's gonna
shatter her water helmet by smacking it with

586
00:54:02,292 --> 00:54:07,715
his razor sharp claws. And all the water is
gonna come pouring out. And as she adjusts

587
00:54:07,755 --> 00:54:12,738
from breathing water to breathing air, that's
when Manfebian... grabs her energy gun from

588
00:54:12,758 --> 00:54:18,362
her hand and uses it to blast a hole through
her chest. Just destroying her lungs and destroying

589
00:54:18,943 --> 00:54:24,526
basically her life. Well I mean maybe she reaches
for another syringe to turn him human. Manfibian's

590
00:54:24,546 --> 00:54:30,470
an alien. Like what is she gonna do? Revert
him back into an alien? Yes. No. I don't know.

591
00:54:31,071 --> 00:54:38,156
She's dead. Okay. Well right when Manfibian
kills Dr. Nina Mazursky that's when Frankenstein,

592
00:54:38,556 --> 00:54:45,263
who now has six arms. picks up Manfibian because
Frankenstein collected and grafted his bride's

593
00:54:45,423 --> 00:54:51,466
arms onto his body. And so each of the bride's
forearms are holding one of Manfibian's limbs,

594
00:54:51,506 --> 00:54:55,968
just stretching them out so he can't move. While
Frankenstein is going to use his own super

595
00:54:56,048 --> 00:55:04,491
strong arms to squeeze a Manfibian's neck until
pop, just gets popped like a zit. So I just

596
00:55:04,531 --> 00:55:09,833
have Satana left, but you only have Frankenstein
left. So it's just those two left on the battlefield.

597
00:55:10,238 --> 00:55:15,761
So, Seitan is gonna swoop in and land a big
ol' smoochy smooch right on Frankenstein's

598
00:55:15,781 --> 00:55:23,045
lips. She was like, come here you big lug. Mwah!
And Frankenstein's like, whoa. And he's probably

599
00:55:23,065 --> 00:55:29,588
feeling pretty good about himself, except that
Seitan is a succubus, okay? By kissing Frankenstein,

600
00:55:29,949 --> 00:55:34,291
she just stole his soul and it comes out of
his body in the form of a butterfly out of

601
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:40,430
his mouth and his body gets all desiccated and
just goes straight to hell. And with him out,

602
00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:45,213
the Legion of Monsters win. I mean, I don't
think Frankenstein was as flattered as you

603
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:50,977
think. For one, you know, his heart belongs
to the bride. And they were actually in addition

604
00:55:50,997 --> 00:55:56,962
to grafting his bride's arms onto his body.
He also grafted her head into his chest where

605
00:55:56,982 --> 00:56:03,906
his heart is in order to save her. He's like
Quato from Total Recall. Her head is just in

606
00:56:03,966 --> 00:56:08,734
his chest. So his body has two consciousnesses
now. And while Frankenstein's soul. may have

607
00:56:08,754 --> 00:56:14,319
been stolen sure the bride is still around and
she's going to take control of the body and

608
00:56:14,779 --> 00:56:21,585
She doesn't appreciate this demon hoe trying
to make moves on her man so You know the bride

609
00:56:21,605 --> 00:56:25,869
is gonna grab Frankenstein sword which once
belonged to the Archangel Michael by the way

610
00:56:25,909 --> 00:56:32,095
So it's holy and she's gonna plunge that blade
right into Satanas head sending her back to

611
00:56:32,155 --> 00:56:37,703
hell meaning the creature commandos win, uh
I'm going to say that Frankenstein meant to

612
00:56:37,743 --> 00:56:43,746
graft the bride's head onto his body, but he
just forgot to. He just did the arms. So I

613
00:56:43,766 --> 00:56:48,989
literally just said that he did that. Well,
I'm saying that he didn't that he forgot to.

614
00:56:49,529 --> 00:56:53,852
So we'll go ahead and find out which of these
scenarios happens by inputting the character

615
00:56:53,912 --> 00:57:00,235
stats into our team simulator, comparing thousands
of matrices against each other and coming back

616
00:57:00,255 --> 00:57:08,000
with a winner. A.G. 9K hit it. Inputting data.
running calculations, processing results, simulations

617
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:14,485
complete. This was actually a pretty close matchup.
I didn't think it would be that close because

618
00:57:14,586 --> 00:57:19,910
the character of Satana turned out to be way
more powerful than she had any right to be

619
00:57:19,930 --> 00:57:24,674
within this team duel. Like, she was far beyond
anybody else on either of these teams. Out

620
00:57:24,714 --> 00:57:30,554
of all of her matches, she actually won over
90% of them. So uh... Yeah, that was a little

621
00:57:30,574 --> 00:57:34,975
bit of a mismatch, including say 10 on the Legion
of Monsters. But I also had Zombie on my team,

622
00:57:35,275 --> 00:57:40,777
who was by far the weakest character out of
anybody on either team. He only won one fifth

623
00:57:40,897 --> 00:57:45,638
of all of his matches. Yeah, as we learned in
our werewolf by night versus Solomon Grundy

624
00:57:45,658 --> 00:57:52,740
match, zombies are pretty weak stat wise. But
at least even Solomon Grundy had super strength

625
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,921
going for him. Well, I mean, zombie has super
strength, but like zombies in general, they

626
00:57:56,941 --> 00:58:02,928
don't have. great stats in terms of speed or
range or intelligence, you know, things like

627
00:58:02,968 --> 00:58:07,971
that. So I'm just convinced that we would all
just be fine if a zombie apocalypse were to

628
00:58:07,991 --> 00:58:13,154
ever happen. You had the strongest guy and the
weakest guy. My strongest guys were actually

629
00:58:13,274 --> 00:58:19,758
Frankenstein and GI Robot. Both of those guys
ended up winning 60% each of their matches.

630
00:58:20,158 --> 00:58:27,394
And overall, the stat categories that the Leech
Dome Monsters had over the creature Like it

631
00:58:27,434 --> 00:58:33,938
is really hard to kill most of the Legion of
Monsters characters, but also strength. A lot

632
00:58:33,958 --> 00:58:39,862
of my guys were pretty damn strong. But the
Creature Commandos had intelligence and range

633
00:58:39,902 --> 00:58:44,706
going for them. Not only do we have several
doctors and members who have lived for centuries

634
00:58:44,766 --> 00:58:50,810
on the team, but they're all pretty much packing
heat as well. Yeah, yeah. A lot of my guys

635
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:54,553
didn't have any range at all basically. They
had to get in close and personal in order to

636
00:58:54,573 --> 00:58:59,099
inflict any sort of damage. So taking all of
this into consideration, Joseph, who do you

637
00:58:59,139 --> 00:59:03,380
think came out on top? I'm gonna say it's gonna
be Legion of Monsters. I think it's gonna be

638
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,182
close, but I think Legion of Monsters is still
gonna come out on top largely because they're

639
00:59:07,202 --> 00:59:13,805
just more ferocious and badass. The Instagram
poll takers though disagree with me. 53% of

640
00:59:13,825 --> 00:59:19,287
them voted in favor of the creature commandos
winning this fight. I have to think that maybe

641
00:59:19,307 --> 00:59:23,469
that's just due to the upcoming television show
that's coming out, but who knows? It's gonna

642
00:59:23,489 --> 00:59:29,400
be a close match. Oh, you think so, huh? Well,
let's find out. AG90K, the results please.

643
00:59:29,980 --> 00:59:38,526
Hey, Yuasa. The winner of the team matchup between
Creature Commandos and Legion of Monsters is

644
00:59:40,067 --> 00:59:49,114
Legion of Monsters. All right. They won 517
of the 1000 matches or 51.7% of the time compared

645
00:59:49,134 --> 00:59:56,150
to the Creature Commandos who won 48.3. Now
I have to say, I... I'm actually kind of surprised

646
00:59:56,370 --> 01:00:00,092
that the Legion of Monsters did not have a higher
win rate. This is a closer match than I thought

647
01:00:00,112 --> 01:00:04,474
it would be. Once we started putting in the
stats and I saw how powerful Satana was compared

648
01:00:04,494 --> 01:00:09,516
to everyone else, I was like, oh crap, I totally
am going to lose this match for sure. But I

649
01:00:09,536 --> 01:00:14,378
thought it was going to be by a lot more. So
in a way, I still feel good about this because

650
01:00:14,739 --> 01:00:18,560
my team did better than I thought we would.
Well, let's be real. If I didn't have Satana

651
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:24,062
on my Legion of Monsters team. These guys may
not have been able to pull off a victory. Like

652
01:00:24,122 --> 01:00:29,924
she was far and above everybody else. And yeah,
it was kind of a little bit of a mismatch.

653
01:00:29,964 --> 01:00:34,405
You could say or you could just say that was
strategic thinking on behalf of myself and

654
01:00:34,425 --> 01:00:39,647
the executive producers. Or you could say you
guys were a bunch of cheaters. There's also

655
01:00:39,687 --> 01:00:44,168
that you could say anything, really. You could
also just say that you chose your team wrong.

656
01:00:44,348 --> 01:00:48,829
You know, oh, I actually liked my team, though.
I'm still proud of our turnout. I liked your

657
01:00:48,869 --> 01:00:56,203
team, too. Yeah. I liked it as well in the fact
that they lost and in your face. And I hope

658
01:00:56,283 --> 01:01:04,169
that everyone's Halloween is as scary as these
results were to DC fans. OK, so not that scary

659
01:01:04,189 --> 01:01:10,575
because you guys didn't win by that much. Gotcha.
That does it for this episode, guys. AJ 9K

660
01:01:10,775 --> 01:01:17,100
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661
01:01:17,161 --> 01:01:22,457
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664
01:01:34,147 --> 01:01:38,350
Don't forget to listen to the other shows in
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665
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:45,076
Destruction, Senjo World, and Console Combat.
In our next episode, we will be reviewing the

666
01:01:45,176 --> 01:01:51,377
upcoming Sony Marvel film, Venom the Last Dance.
I'm not expecting huge things, I'm hoping that

667
01:01:51,497 --> 01:01:57,142
it's at least better than Venom Let There Be
Carnage, but we will find out and discuss it

668
01:01:57,262 --> 01:02:00,965
next time. But that does it for this episode
guys, we want to give a big thanks to our executive

669
01:02:00,985 --> 01:02:05,408
producers Ken Johnson, John Sturowski, Zachary
Hepburn, Dustin Belcombe, Mickey Mathangian,

670
01:02:05,528 --> 01:02:10,793
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671
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672
01:02:16,757 --> 01:02:22,240
Josh Leiner for helping make this podcast possible.
We'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and

673
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,363
away, true believers. I was working in the lab
late one night when my eyes beheld an eerie

674
01:02:27,423 --> 01:02:33,027
sight, for my monster from his slab began to
rise, and suddenly, to my surprise, he did

675
01:02:33,087 --> 01:02:33,908
the monster mash.