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Thanks guys, and 7 00:00:55,233 --> 00:00:55,813 on with the show. 8 00:01:16,174 --> 00:01:20,035 Hey and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films 9 00:01:20,235 --> 00:01:25,336 and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based 10 00:01:25,476 --> 00:01:31,518 battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And in this episode, 11 00:01:31,878 --> 00:01:37,380 we are going to find out who would win in a fight between the DC villain Copperhead and 12 00:01:37,420 --> 00:01:42,341 the Marvel villain Scorpion. I was gonna say that this is like a lizard-themed duel, but 13 00:01:42,641 --> 00:01:47,803 uh... Yeah, only one of these guys are reptile themed. Of course, Scorpion is an insect. So 14 00:01:48,403 --> 00:01:53,724 I had kind of a brain fart right there. Actually, scorpions aren't insects. They're arachnids. 15 00:01:53,785 --> 00:01:57,746 Fuck you, Jonathan. It was right off the gate. You're stupid. You're going down. I hope you 16 00:01:57,786 --> 00:02:04,447 lose this match now. Don't correct me. It disgusts me. Anyway, Jonathan and I are recording this 17 00:02:04,487 --> 00:02:08,829 episode a little bit early. We're actually recording this the week before Thanksgiving. And this 18 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:14,111 episode is actually coming out the week after Thanksgiving. Initially, this episode was going 19 00:02:14,131 --> 00:02:19,594 to be a review of Watchmen Chapter 2, but we got a lot of stuff going on during the Thanksgiving 20 00:02:19,634 --> 00:02:24,636 week. So we decided to put this episode out now and next week we're going to be reviewing 21 00:02:24,716 --> 00:02:29,659 Watchmen Chapter 2. Yeah, we had Thanksgiving. I have a work trip. It's just a lot of stuff 22 00:02:29,679 --> 00:02:36,122 going on. Plus it gives me, you know, more time to sit with my thoughts after watching Watchmen 23 00:02:36,142 --> 00:02:39,604 Chapter 2, which I have not done yet because it's not out. Please bear with us because this 24 00:02:39,644 --> 00:02:44,203 is actually a pretty bare-boned show. We're not gonna have a no price segment. We're not 25 00:02:44,243 --> 00:02:50,126 going to have any news. We're just gonna get right into the duel. Right, but first we do 26 00:02:50,186 --> 00:02:55,029 have to hear from our artificially intelligent duel simulator, AJ9K, who has a quick message 27 00:02:55,089 --> 00:03:01,903 for our listeners. Why hello there, do you want even more from this podcast? Then become a 28 00:03:01,943 --> 00:03:06,505 part of the dynamic duel community on Patreon, where you can choose from three tiers. The 29 00:03:06,545 --> 00:03:11,427 dynamic two-o tier gives you access to our Discord chat server. 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Right now we're not 36 00:03:44,606 --> 00:03:49,328 sure what the upcoming episodes in the DynaMic Podcast Network will be, but be sure to listen 37 00:03:49,368 --> 00:03:53,230 to Max Destruction, which pits your favorite action heroes from film and television against 38 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:57,852 each other, Senjou World, which speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga 39 00:03:57,872 --> 00:04:03,454 characters, and Console Combat, which simulates battles between popular video game characters. 40 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:08,717 Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows 41 00:04:09,037 --> 00:04:13,135 in the DynaMic Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, let's go ahead and get on to 42 00:04:13,176 --> 00:04:18,973 the main event where we find out who would win in a fight between Copperhead and Scorpion. 43 00:04:34,102 --> 00:04:39,524 All right, Copperhead versus Scorpion. This episode is coming out in lead up to the upcoming 44 00:04:39,604 --> 00:04:43,586 Craven the Hunter movie that's coming out in a few weeks. Of course, that film will be based 45 00:04:43,626 --> 00:04:47,228 off of the Spider-Man villain known as Craven the Hunter, but we've already done a duel episode 46 00:04:47,248 --> 00:04:53,831 with Craven. We pit him against DC's Vixen. So we were thinking of another Spider-Man villain 47 00:04:53,871 --> 00:04:58,593 to do a duel episode with, and actually my favorite Spider-Man villain of all time is Scorpion. 48 00:04:59,142 --> 00:05:03,043 And it is a damn shame that we have not gotten to a duel episode with him yet. So we're going 49 00:05:03,063 --> 00:05:09,186 to fix that right now. Pitting Scorpion against Copperhead, who was not an easy foe to come 50 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:14,628 up with. Took us a while to settle on Copperhead, us and the executive producers. But essentially, 51 00:05:14,668 --> 00:05:19,510 these guys are incredibly agile. They're strong and in part, they're gifted that strength thanks 52 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:25,332 to the suits that they wear, which include these long tails that can wrap people up. One guy 53 00:05:25,432 --> 00:05:30,975 uses acid attacks. Another guy uses venom based attacks. It was actually a hard sell once we 54 00:05:31,075 --> 00:05:36,679 realized Copperhead could work. Yeah, I think I primarily know Copperhead from the Suicide 55 00:05:36,699 --> 00:05:42,004 Squad Hell to Pay animated movie in which he was a member of the Suicide Squad team. And 56 00:05:42,044 --> 00:05:47,568 he was pretty cool. He was like a cyborg with like snake-like powers in that film. I'm assuming 57 00:05:47,608 --> 00:05:52,652 that's what he's like in the comics. Not quite. Well, we will find out all about him and Scorpion. 58 00:05:52,692 --> 00:05:58,657 You know what's crazy is that I feel like Copperhead has been better represented in the medium of 59 00:05:58,697 --> 00:06:03,681 film than Scorpion has. Scorpion, again, my favorite Spider-Man villain, has yet to make 60 00:06:03,701 --> 00:06:08,685 an appearance in the films besides that stupid cameo that was in Spider-Man Homecoming. I 61 00:06:08,705 --> 00:06:13,850 think prominently he was best featured in Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, although that was the 62 00:06:13,970 --> 00:06:18,834 ultimate version of Scorpion. Copperhead wasn't in any films either except for Hell to Pay. 63 00:06:19,315 --> 00:06:23,882 Oh, he was also in a video game, although it was the girl version of him. in Arkham Origins 64 00:06:23,922 --> 00:06:28,886 and that was awesome. That was really cool. Well, I mean, Scorpion's been in a lot of Spider-Man 65 00:06:28,906 --> 00:06:33,070 video games, so I guess he has that going for him. Can't wait to see who's gonna win this 66 00:06:33,090 --> 00:06:37,433 fight, but to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator, 67 00:06:37,614 --> 00:06:42,798 Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our 68 00:06:42,838 --> 00:06:47,922 duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants 69 00:06:47,962 --> 00:06:53,346 is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. The Monte Carlo 70 00:06:53,366 --> 00:06:57,650 simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. 71 00:06:58,110 --> 00:07:02,994 In this case, I randomised the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate 72 00:07:03,034 --> 00:07:07,618 the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official 73 00:07:07,678 --> 00:07:12,983 Marvel power grid from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat 74 00:07:13,023 --> 00:07:18,547 categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order 75 00:07:18,587 --> 00:07:23,975 to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1,000 simulations provide 76 00:07:23,995 --> 00:07:28,377 a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is declared 77 00:07:28,397 --> 00:07:33,700 the victor, as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, 78 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,883 neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's 79 00:07:39,023 --> 00:07:43,826 even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line 80 00:07:43,846 --> 00:07:48,448 with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations 81 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:53,611 are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes 82 00:07:53,671 --> 00:07:59,775 tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks, A.J. 9K. Before we run the simulations, though, 83 00:07:59,795 --> 00:08:04,458 we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario 84 00:08:04,538 --> 00:08:10,462 on how we imagine one of the 1,000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe 85 00:08:10,482 --> 00:08:14,224 it's my turn to go first with the Marvel characters backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you 86 00:08:14,304 --> 00:08:21,095 all about Scorpion. McDonald Mac Gargan's early life is shrouded in mystery, but he eventually 87 00:08:21,115 --> 00:08:25,557 became a private investigator known for his willingness to take on difficult and morally 88 00:08:25,597 --> 00:08:30,880 questionable jobs. This reputation drew the attention of Daily Bugle publisher J. Jonah 89 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,302 Jameson, who was determined to reveal how Peter Parker consistently captured such astonishing 90 00:08:36,322 --> 00:08:40,103 photographs of Spider-Man, whom you could learn more about in his duel against Blue Beetle. 91 00:08:40,564 --> 00:08:45,758 Jameson hired Gargan to shadow Parker, hoping to uncover a secret connection. However, Peter 92 00:08:45,798 --> 00:08:50,641 Parker's spider sense alerted him to Gargan's presence each time, leaving Jameson frustrated 93 00:08:50,821 --> 00:08:56,185 and ready to pursue a bolder strategy. Jameson arranged for Gargan to undergo a risky procedure 94 00:08:56,205 --> 00:09:01,989 with Dr. Farley Stillwell, a scientist exploring genetic manipulation. In exchange for a $10,000 95 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:08,554 fee, Gargan agreed to become Stillwell's first human test subject. His DNA was fused with 96 00:09:08,614 --> 00:09:15,430 that of a scorpion, one of a spider's natural predators, granting endurance and reflexes. 97 00:09:15,970 --> 00:09:21,092 Stillwell also outfitted Gargan with a cybernetically controlled mechanical tail, completing his 98 00:09:21,113 --> 00:09:26,075 transformation into Scorpion. But while the experiment made Gargan physically formidable, 99 00:09:26,535 --> 00:09:31,537 it also had unforeseen mental consequences, driving him toward insanity and sparking a 100 00:09:31,597 --> 00:09:36,999 deep-seated aggression that he would later be unable to control. Initially, Gargan reveled 101 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:41,921 in his new powers, believing they made him invincible. His first encounters with Spider-Man reinforced 102 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:47,787 this confidence, as he defeated the webslinger twice. However as Gargan's powers grew, so 103 00:09:47,827 --> 00:09:53,589 did his hatred toward Jameson, whom he now saw as the true architect of his monstrous transformation. 104 00:09:53,989 --> 00:09:59,050 This contempt soon became an obsession, leading Scorpion to attack Jameson at the Daily Bugle, 105 00:09:59,430 --> 00:10:04,792 only to be foiled by Spider-Man in their third battle. Despite being arrested, Gargan's animosity 106 00:10:04,832 --> 00:10:09,853 toward Jameson, whom he saw as both his creator and his enemy, would remain a driving force 107 00:10:09,893 --> 00:10:15,419 for years to come. Over time, Gargan's animosity turned him into a hardened mercenary, accepting 108 00:10:15,439 --> 00:10:19,720 dangerous assignments that often brought him into conflict with other heroes. As Gargan's 109 00:10:19,740 --> 00:10:23,781 criminal career advanced, he became part of the Masters of Evil supervillain team under 110 00:10:23,941 --> 00:10:28,682 Egghead, joining forces to battle the Avengers, though they were ultimately defeated. You can 111 00:10:28,722 --> 00:10:33,584 learn more about the Masters of Evil in their duel episode against the Legion of Doom. Gargan's 112 00:10:33,604 --> 00:10:38,205 reputation for brutality grew, making him a reliable go-to for villains who needed muscle 113 00:10:38,245 --> 00:10:43,524 for their operations. Yet he remained haunted by the life he had lost and the monstrous identity 114 00:10:43,564 --> 00:10:48,448 he was now trapped in, leading him to believe he can never remove his costume. Desperate 115 00:10:48,508 --> 00:10:53,571 and mentally unstable, Scorpion attempted to subject Jameson to an acid bath, a scheme foiled 116 00:10:53,591 --> 00:10:58,855 by Captain Marvel, who threw Gargan into the acid herself. Horribly burned and in agony, 117 00:10:58,955 --> 00:11:04,279 Gargan retreated into the sewers, his sanity slipping further. He would spend weeks in isolation, 118 00:11:04,339 --> 00:11:09,874 spiraling deep into madness and becoming convinced he was truly a monster. This self-loathing 119 00:11:09,934 --> 00:11:14,275 and paranoia haunted him until another confrontation with Spider-Man revealed that his monstrous 120 00:11:14,335 --> 00:11:19,077 identity was more of a psychological prison than a physical one. In a bid to regain his 121 00:11:19,097 --> 00:11:23,499 sense of control, Gargan accepted offers from corporate backers like Justin Hammer, who saw 122 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:29,041 value in enhancing Scorpion's deadly abilities. Hammer outfitted him with a new suit and extended 123 00:11:29,081 --> 00:11:34,599 his tail, equipping it with advanced weaponry. but Gargan's volatility proved disastrous as 124 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:39,763 he repeatedly jeopardized Hammer's operations with his inability to follow orders. Despite 125 00:11:39,803 --> 00:11:44,306 these setbacks, Gargan continued to cling to his criminal career, unable to give up his 126 00:11:44,326 --> 00:11:48,909 vendetta against Jameson and Spider-Man. In one of his most significant turning points, 127 00:11:49,230 --> 00:11:53,713 Gargan was approached by Norman Osborn, who sought to harness Gargan's hatred for Spider-Man. 128 00:11:54,233 --> 00:12:00,217 Osborn, aka the Green Goblin, now aware of Spider-Man's true identity, offered Gargan an upgraded suit. 129 00:12:00,650 --> 00:12:06,353 and revealed Parker's secret to him. He instructed Gargan to kidnap Peter's Aunt May if Osborn 130 00:12:06,373 --> 00:12:11,476 was ever incarcerated. Gargan nearly completed his mission when he encountered the Venom symbiote, 131 00:12:11,616 --> 00:12:16,539 which offered him even greater power, becoming the new monstrous Venom, whom you can learn 132 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,642 more about in our Clayface versus Venom duel episode. As Venom, Gargan discovered newfound 133 00:12:21,702 --> 00:12:27,505 powers, joining Osborn's Sinister 12 in a bid to destroy Spider-Man. Though he was defeated, 134 00:12:27,886 --> 00:12:32,528 Gargan enjoyed the raw powers the symbiote offered. However, controlling the symbiote came at a 135 00:12:32,588 --> 00:12:38,351 cost as his bloodlust drove Gargan to increasingly savage acts. Concerned with his violent tendencies, 136 00:12:38,671 --> 00:12:43,514 the government implanted electrical inhibitors in Gargan's body, hoping to restrain the symbiote's 137 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:48,577 influence. Following the Skrull invasion, Osborn elevated Gargan's status by assigning him to 138 00:12:48,637 --> 00:12:53,840 the Dark Avengers, where he took on the public persona of Spider-Man to present a twisted 139 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:58,931 reflection of the hero to the public. His hatred for Jameson? Now New York's mayor led him to 140 00:12:58,991 --> 00:13:04,756 orchestrate a gang war aimed at tarnishing Jameson's reputation, plunging the city into chaos. When 141 00:13:04,836 --> 00:13:09,379 Osborn's empire finally fell during the Siege of Asgard, Gargan and the other Dark Avengers 142 00:13:09,419 --> 00:13:14,804 were arrested, and the symbiote was forcibly removed. Without it, Gargan experienced severe 143 00:13:14,864 --> 00:13:19,448 health repercussions, his body having grown dependent on the symbiote for stability. His 144 00:13:19,508 --> 00:13:24,211 freedom came when Alastor Smythe, a villain known as the Spider Slayer, broke him out of 145 00:13:24,251 --> 00:13:28,870 prison and outfitted him with an advanced scorpion suit. which included a life support system 146 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:34,912 and a quote-unquote scorpion sense similar to Spider-Man's spider sense. Smite's intervention 147 00:13:34,952 --> 00:13:39,973 provided Gargan with a semblance of normalcy, but it also rekindled his obsession with revenge. 148 00:13:40,493 --> 00:13:45,114 Together, the two staged a high-profile attack on Jameson and his family, though Spider-Man 149 00:13:45,214 --> 00:13:50,396 ultimately thwarted their plans. His ongoing vendetta against Venom resurfaced after Eddie 150 00:13:50,416 --> 00:13:51,996 Brock reclaimed the symbiote. 151 00:13:56,546 --> 00:14:03,128 Gargan adopted a new identity, Virus, and acquired a heavily weaponized suit. He pursued Venom 152 00:14:03,168 --> 00:14:07,970 relentlessly, but was ultimately captured by Codex, a symbiote hive ruler who forced him 153 00:14:08,010 --> 00:14:13,212 to resume his Scorpion identity. Gargan eventually accepted a position on the government-run symbiote 154 00:14:13,272 --> 00:14:19,175 task force, targeting rogue symbiotes in a twisted attempt at redemption. Powers-wise, Scorpion 155 00:14:19,195 --> 00:14:24,857 is a mutate with Scorpion-human hybrid physiology. This grants him superhuman strength, able to 156 00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:30,167 lift around 20 tons. and enhanced running speed around 50 miles per hour. His scorpion suit 157 00:14:30,187 --> 00:14:34,748 grants him enhanced durability that renders him bulletproof to small arms fire and he's 158 00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:39,609 equipped with pincers and the gloves that allow him to grasp onto walls and rip through solid 159 00:14:39,669 --> 00:14:44,531 metal. Best of all though is his 10 foot long mechanical tail that can whip at 100 miles 160 00:14:44,571 --> 00:14:49,852 per hour and is dexterous enough to carry objects or use as a springboard to launch himself three 161 00:14:49,892 --> 00:14:55,026 stories into the air. The tip of his tail is equipped with a poisonous barb. and from it 162 00:14:55,086 --> 00:15:00,271 he can fire both laser blasts and corrosive acid. While Scorpion is not a trained fighter, 163 00:15:00,711 --> 00:15:06,336 he is an adept brawler and a gifted investigator. That's Scorpion. Wait so you're telling me 164 00:15:06,416 --> 00:15:12,701 I can get a suit like the Scorpion for just 10 G's? Not only a suit but also Scorpion DNA. 165 00:15:12,781 --> 00:15:19,147 Eh it doesn't matter I don't have that anyway. A guy could dream though, although I'm not 166 00:15:19,167 --> 00:15:24,015 sure how much it costs to get Copperhead's suit. But I would say it's even more oppressive than 167 00:15:24,075 --> 00:15:28,659 Scorpion's and probably more expensive. Probably. Well, I mean, Scorpion debuted in the 1960s, 168 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:36,305 so $10,000 in the 1960s now, it's got to be at least $10 billion. Oh, Copperhead also appeared 169 00:15:36,345 --> 00:15:41,789 in the 60s, the late 60s. Interesting. Let me get into his backstory. The criminal known 170 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:47,474 as Copperhead first emerged in Gotham City as a mysterious figure whose agility, stealth, 171 00:15:47,514 --> 00:15:53,686 and cunning allowed him to execute a series of audacious thefts. His costume, resembling 172 00:15:53,806 --> 00:15:58,609 a snake's scales, included a prehensile tail that he could use to bind an incapacity to 173 00:15:58,649 --> 00:16:04,351 his victims, earning him the moniker Copperhead. Though his true identity remained a mystery, 174 00:16:04,711 --> 00:16:10,874 his modus operandi was distinct, striking swiftly and vanishing without a trace. Copperhead's 175 00:16:10,894 --> 00:16:16,717 contortionist skills and snake-like agility made him nearly impossible to apprehend, confounding 176 00:16:16,837 --> 00:16:22,885 Gotham's police force. Copperhead's first major heist involved the theft of a tiara belonging 177 00:16:22,925 --> 00:16:28,970 to a foreign dignitary visiting Gotham City. Disguised as an elderly man, Copperhead infiltrated 178 00:16:29,010 --> 00:16:34,515 the dignitary's heavily guarded quarters, stealing the tiara before escaping into the shadows. 179 00:16:34,815 --> 00:16:40,039 His theft drew the attention of Batman, who enlisted the help of Batgirl and Wonder Woman 180 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,844 to help capture the slippery villain. The trio set a trap for Copperhead using the golden 181 00:16:45,884 --> 00:16:52,039 cask of Montezuma. a priceless artifact as bait. Though Copperhead failed in his attempt to 182 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,902 steal it, the trap failed as well, and he successfully evaded the heroes once again, disappearing 183 00:16:57,982 --> 00:17:03,384 into Gotham's underworld. Shortly after, Copperhead captured Wonder Woman during an encounter in 184 00:17:03,444 --> 00:17:08,586 Gotham Park and brought her back to his lair. Batman and Batgirl were able to track him, 185 00:17:08,626 --> 00:17:13,949 however, to his hideout where they managed to capture and arrest him. After escaping from 186 00:17:14,009 --> 00:17:18,554 prison, Copperhead upgraded his suit. with help from the Secret Society of Super-Villains, 187 00:17:18,855 --> 00:17:24,537 who invited him to join their ranks. While working for the Society, he collaborated with villains 188 00:17:24,557 --> 00:17:29,879 like Gorilla Grodd and Star Sapphire on a series of heists, the former of which you can learn 189 00:17:29,939 --> 00:17:34,561 more about in our Gorilla Grodd vs. Psylocke duel episode. Internal conflicts within the 190 00:17:34,581 --> 00:17:39,383 group, however, led Copperhead to abandon his associates after becoming suspicious of the 191 00:17:39,443 --> 00:17:44,745 Society's leadership. As a freelance assassin, Copperhead expanded his criminal endeavors 192 00:17:44,805 --> 00:17:50,123 internationally. He was hired to assassinate a French finance minister only to be thwarted 193 00:17:50,163 --> 00:17:56,484 by Elongated Man, the first of several battles against the hero across Europe. When the archdemon 194 00:17:56,544 --> 00:18:02,426 Niron offered numerous villains upgraded powers, Copperhead sold his soul to be transformed 195 00:18:02,866 --> 00:18:08,688 into a human-snake hybrid. This new form enhanced his physical abilities, granting him actual 196 00:18:08,748 --> 00:18:15,709 venomous fangs, superhuman strength, and predatory instincts. However, it also eroded his humanity. 197 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:22,585 making him more animalistic and driven by primal urges. In his transformed state, Copperhead 198 00:18:22,625 --> 00:18:27,948 became a vicious killer. He battled Superboy in Hawaii, where his venomous bite managed 199 00:18:28,028 --> 00:18:33,251 to pierce the young hero's skin. Though he was temporarily defeated, Copperhead survived and 200 00:18:33,311 --> 00:18:38,254 joined the Suicide Squad, only to betray the mission and escape with his newfound freedom. 201 00:18:38,854 --> 00:18:45,154 As his monstrous tendencies grew, Copperhead devolved into a serial killer monster. consuming 202 00:18:45,194 --> 00:18:50,398 the victims he slaughtered. His killing spree ended when District Attorney Kate Spencer, 203 00:18:50,579 --> 00:18:56,684 secretly the vigilante Manhunter, tracked him down. In a brutal confrontation, Manhunter 204 00:18:56,744 --> 00:19:02,228 killed Copperhead with an energy baton, ending his reign of terror. By the time of his death, 205 00:19:02,248 --> 00:19:07,953 Copperhead had claimed over 48 lives. Later, Copperhead was resurrected as a member of the 206 00:19:07,993 --> 00:19:13,986 Black Lantern Corps during the Blackest Night. As a Black Lantern Zombie, He attacked Coast 207 00:19:14,046 --> 00:19:19,712 City along other reanimated villains and attempted to kill the Flash. However, he was ultimately 208 00:19:19,752 --> 00:19:25,717 destroyed when Green Lantern annihilated his Black Lantern ring. In post-Flashpoint continuity, 209 00:19:25,777 --> 00:19:31,743 Copperhead underwent several incarnations. The first was Samir Park, a snake-like metahuman 210 00:19:32,023 --> 00:19:37,568 who joined the Seeker Society of Super-Villains. This version of Copperhead was nearly successful 211 00:19:37,648 --> 00:19:42,311 in killing the hero Black Canary, as he was immune to her sonic scream due to his lack 212 00:19:42,351 --> 00:19:48,095 of ears. She was rescued, however, by the Justice League, and Copperhead continued working with 213 00:19:48,115 --> 00:19:53,139 the Seeker Society up until his death at the hands of Deathstroke, who betrayed the Seeker 214 00:19:53,179 --> 00:19:58,522 Society to join Lex Luthor's and Justice League. You can learn more about Black Canary, Deathstroke, 215 00:19:58,582 --> 00:20:04,366 and Lex Luthor in their respective duels against Black Widow, Deadpool, and Baron Zemo. After 216 00:20:04,406 --> 00:20:09,414 Samir Park's death, the mantle of Copperhead passed to a South American woman using the 217 00:20:09,494 --> 00:20:15,619 alias Jane Doe. This version of Copperhead was a deadly hitwoman and crime boss renowned for 218 00:20:15,659 --> 00:20:20,763 her lethal, venomous attacks, rivaling the toxic villainess Cheshire, who you can learn more 219 00:20:20,803 --> 00:20:26,568 about in her duel against Silver Samurai. Copperhead established herself as a prominent figure in 220 00:20:26,628 --> 00:20:31,291 Central City's criminal underworld, taking over her family's crime syndicate after serving 221 00:20:31,372 --> 00:20:37,056 as a mercenary. Her tenure as a crime boss brought her into conflict with several heroes, including 222 00:20:37,116 --> 00:20:43,193 Batman and The Flash. When Two-Face placed a bounty on Batman's head, Copperhead was among 223 00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:48,518 the mercenaries who pursued him, tracking him to a moving train. Though she attempted to 224 00:20:48,558 --> 00:20:54,243 kill him, he evaded her by leaping into a nearby river. Copperhead's activities eventually drew 225 00:20:54,263 --> 00:20:59,628 the attention of The Flash, who arrested her mercenary enforcers including Shrapnel, Black 226 00:20:59,668 --> 00:21:05,653 Spider, and the Trigger Twins. This setback forced Copperhead to negotiate with Captain 227 00:21:05,713 --> 00:21:10,775 Cold. the rival crime lord encroaching on her territory, who you can learn more about in 228 00:21:10,815 --> 00:21:16,697 his duel against Pyro. Captain Cold betrayed Copperhead, however, by planting a bomb in 229 00:21:16,717 --> 00:21:22,538 a weapon's delivery. The Flash intervened to save Copperhead from the explosion and apprehended 230 00:21:22,578 --> 00:21:28,160 Captain Cold, though Copperhead herself avoided prosecution due to insufficient evidence of 231 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:34,030 her involvement. This Copperhead was later jailed in Iron Heights, prisoned by Superman, after 232 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:39,734 she attacked reporters at the Daily Planet. An unnamed iteration of Copperhead, possibly 233 00:21:40,134 --> 00:21:46,058 a reimagining of the original, recently appeared as a copper-skinned criminal. This Copperhead 234 00:21:46,118 --> 00:21:52,202 joined forces with Asp and Lady Viper to form the Snake Gang, and were nearly successful 235 00:21:52,262 --> 00:21:57,106 in defeating the Birds of Prey before the villainous group was defeated and disbanded. 236 00:22:02,606 --> 00:22:09,990 who traditionally wears a suit woven from experimental elastic metal fibers coated in a polymer film. 237 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:16,154 This not only grants him enhanced durability, flexibility, and the insurance that most physical 238 00:22:16,174 --> 00:22:21,837 blows will glance right off of him, but it also allows him to travel with surprising speed 239 00:22:21,997 --> 00:22:27,821 due to his reduced friction and his knack for slipping into tight spaces. The guy is basically 240 00:22:27,921 --> 00:22:33,015 untouchable. The suit also has suction cups at the ends of the limbs, allowing him to adhere 241 00:22:33,375 --> 00:22:38,936 and maneuver across most solid surfaces, and his helmet is equipped with sharp, fang-like 242 00:22:38,996 --> 00:22:45,718 blades, coated with a toxin that causes paralysis and eventual death after a half hour. He's 243 00:22:45,778 --> 00:22:51,360 also an experienced martial artist, often using his suit's heavy and stretchable tail to shatter 244 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:58,258 bones or even rock, or bind and crush his foes. That's Copperhead. You know how I know that 245 00:22:58,298 --> 00:23:04,760 Marvel is better than DC? Uh, no I don't know. Because when DC gets a supervillain group of 246 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:09,701 snake-themed villains together, they call them the Snake Gang. Yet when Marvel does it, they 247 00:23:09,741 --> 00:23:16,083 call it the Serpent Society. That's a badass name. That's how Marvel's better. Okay, I'm 248 00:23:16,123 --> 00:23:22,025 pretty sure the Serpent Society name was already taken by the time the Snake Gang was formed, 249 00:23:22,465 --> 00:23:27,620 so you should go f yourself. Serpent Society? Oh, that sounds a lot like the Secret Society 250 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,505 to me, of which Copperhead was already a part of. You mean the Secret Society of Super-Villains? 251 00:23:32,985 --> 00:23:38,770 Well, yeah, that's the longer version of the name. Okay. How long is Copperhead's tail? 252 00:23:39,611 --> 00:23:45,797 Uh, it could stretch. It could stretch to wrap a man up at least twice. So, comparatively 253 00:23:46,057 --> 00:23:51,650 to Scorpion's 10-foot long tail, Copperhead has kind of like a chode going on. I didn't 254 00:23:51,670 --> 00:23:57,363 realize this was a tail measuring contest, my friend. Doesn't matter the size. It's how you 255 00:23:57,504 --> 00:24:01,733 use it. Well, let's find out how these guys use their tails as we get into the match. 256 00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:14,457 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 257 00:24:14,477 --> 00:24:20,201 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 258 00:24:20,261 --> 00:24:25,585 Dynomic Podcast Network presents... Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every 259 00:24:25,645 --> 00:24:30,529 Monday. Dynamic Duel, where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where 260 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:33,859 the world is at its limit. The Dynomic Podcast Network presents... TV and action heroes battle 261 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:40,387 every Wednesday, and Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as 262 00:24:40,407 --> 00:24:45,373 we speculate on the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, discover 263 00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:51,721 who will emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com, where we settle the debate and settle the score. 264 00:24:56,066 --> 00:24:59,186 Now that we got their histories and abilities out of the way, we're going to speculate on 265 00:24:59,246 --> 00:25:04,708 how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not 266 00:25:04,748 --> 00:25:09,549 our speculation, but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the 267 00:25:09,589 --> 00:25:14,671 rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters 268 00:25:14,691 --> 00:25:19,232 have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out 269 00:25:19,572 --> 00:25:23,833 is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation... 270 00:25:24,182 --> 00:25:29,184 The contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that 271 00:25:29,204 --> 00:25:33,606 will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered 272 00:25:33,626 --> 00:25:38,848 in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's 273 00:25:38,888 --> 00:25:44,850 get into it. Copperhead and Scorpion meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? So I'm going 274 00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:49,613 to say that Scorpion goes first. And like they seem about the same in terms of speed anyway. 275 00:25:49,693 --> 00:25:56,679 So Scorpion... is gonna use his prehensile scorpion tail to launch himself into the air with this 276 00:25:56,699 --> 00:26:02,921 like giant leap that covers the entire 50 meter distance between them and as he lands near 277 00:26:03,041 --> 00:26:09,282 copperhead scorpion's gonna lunge with his tail in a move that just impales copperhead on his 278 00:26:09,342 --> 00:26:14,564 tail bar. Well I mean of course copperhead is gonna see scorpion leaping towards him it's 279 00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:21,746 very telegraphed so just before scorpion's tail impales him copperhead's gonna You know, dart 280 00:26:21,766 --> 00:26:28,089 to the side, just enough for Scorpion's barb to glance off of his suit's slick surface. 281 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:34,233 At which point, Copperhead's gonna, you know, drop to the ground, slide underneath Scorpion 282 00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:40,076 between his legs, and then slip up and over his back and just wrap his tail around Scorpion's 283 00:26:40,156 --> 00:26:45,319 neck, crushing his throat like it was just nothing. You dumbass! You don't want to attack Scorpion 284 00:26:45,339 --> 00:26:50,551 from behind. That's the worst place to attack Scorpion, okay? So... As Copperhead's choking 285 00:26:50,571 --> 00:26:54,954 Kim out from behind with his tail, Scorpion's just gonna fire a green laser beam from his 286 00:26:54,994 --> 00:26:59,417 tail that's gonna tag Copperhead right in the back of the head and essentially just blow 287 00:26:59,437 --> 00:27:04,261 his brains out. Dude, blow his brains out? What are you talking about? Like not only is Copperhead 288 00:27:04,321 --> 00:27:10,965 wearing a metallic helmet for protection, but it's also coated in a gel that's heat resistant. 289 00:27:11,025 --> 00:27:19,234 So yeah, he's fine. Heat resistant gel on his head? Yeah. Okay, alright, so the laser beam 290 00:27:19,275 --> 00:27:25,017 didn't work because fucking lube boy is all lubed up over here. Ha ha ha! Scorpion's getting 291 00:27:25,057 --> 00:27:30,339 choked out, he's about to pass out, so instead he's gonna use his tail to wrap around Copperhead's 292 00:27:30,379 --> 00:27:35,321 body and just yank him off of him and slam him into the ground. Okay, but I mean, the stronger 293 00:27:35,361 --> 00:27:40,003 Scorpion's tail wraps around Copperhead, you know, the faster Copperhead's just gonna get 294 00:27:40,163 --> 00:27:46,834 squeezed out of that tail's grasp, because again, he's super slippery. Ha ha ha! So... Copperhead 295 00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:52,158 slips away from Scorpion and he slides across the ground in this zigzagging, like confusing 296 00:27:52,278 --> 00:27:57,081 motion. So Scorpion doesn't know if he's coming at him or if he's moving away from him until 297 00:27:57,101 --> 00:28:03,265 it's too late. Copperhead's gonna lunge at Scorpion and sink his helmet's fangs into Scorpion's 298 00:28:03,385 --> 00:28:08,149 neck, poisoning him. Scorpion has Scorpion Sense with his new suit that Smythe gave him. So 299 00:28:08,669 --> 00:28:13,552 his Scorpion Sense activates, it alerts him to Copperhead's attack, and as his big ass 300 00:28:13,612 --> 00:28:19,197 mouth is about to chomp down on him. Scorpion grabs Copperhead by the jaw with his pincer 301 00:28:19,237 --> 00:28:24,401 gloves on his suit and he's gonna use their superior grip to just straight up rip Copperhead's 302 00:28:24,461 --> 00:28:31,167 jaw off with his hands. Big ass helmet you mean. What? Big ass helmet. It's not his actual mouth. 303 00:28:31,467 --> 00:28:38,072 You said Scorpion is larger, but Copperhead has a bigger helmet. Yeah, I was talking about 304 00:28:38,093 --> 00:28:42,296 his mouth helmet. I hate that phrase. What are we saying? I never want to say mouth helmet 305 00:28:42,336 --> 00:28:49,109 again for the rest of my life. But yeah, Scorpion uses his pincer gloves to rip off Copperhead's 306 00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:55,315 helmet. Or at least he tries to, but his pincer just slipped right off. Copperhead's helmet 307 00:28:55,395 --> 00:29:04,222 is just too slippery. Well, if Scorpion's pincers slip off of Copperhead's helmet, then they're 308 00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:10,207 just going to slip right onto Copperhead's exposed face. And then Scorpion just rips the guy's 309 00:29:10,247 --> 00:29:16,002 face right off. There's nothing he can do with his face anymore. Oh damn. Maybe he should 310 00:29:16,042 --> 00:29:21,225 lube up his face too next time. Well, I mean, actually, with Scorpion's hands so close to 311 00:29:21,265 --> 00:29:28,129 Copperhead's fangs, that was just the opportunity that Copperhead needed to twist his head and 312 00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:34,213 pierce Scorpion's hands, paralyzing them and causing Scorpion to drop Copperhead, at which 313 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:40,996 point all Copperhead has to do is evade Scorpion's attacks as the paralysis spreads and Scorpion 314 00:29:41,016 --> 00:29:46,038 soon dies from the venom. You said it takes like half an hour for Copperhead's venom to 315 00:29:46,058 --> 00:29:52,140 kill somebody? Yeah, but in the meantime they slowly lose the ability to move. A half an 316 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,421 hour is a long ass time. Like eventually you would think that Scorpion would get a shot 317 00:29:56,461 --> 00:30:01,863 in. The more time that passes the less likely that would be the case. But I think you're 318 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:07,484 forgetting an important detail in that Scorpion has armored gloves. So no, Copperhead does 319 00:30:07,604 --> 00:30:14,435 not bite through his hands and I say Scorpion... does rip off Copperhead's face with his pincers, 320 00:30:15,015 --> 00:30:21,398 and then he shoots acid down the face hole for his Mortal Kombat fatality. Oh, what scorpion 321 00:30:21,458 --> 00:30:31,222 is this? You know, scorpion. Okay. I say you're dreaming, because scorpion's hands may be armored, 322 00:30:31,642 --> 00:30:35,584 but Copperhead's fangs are sharp, and they'll manage to puncture a spot on the wrist where 323 00:30:35,604 --> 00:30:40,086 it's unarmored, like at an exposed joint or something. Well, let's find out. We'll go ahead 324 00:30:40,106 --> 00:30:45,090 and leave the match there. We'll input these characters' stats, run the simulations, and 325 00:30:45,170 --> 00:30:49,953 find out which scenario happens when we come back with a winner. Yeah, either Copperhead 326 00:30:50,253 --> 00:30:56,818 managed to pierce Scorpion with his poisonous fangs, slowly paralyzing and killing him, or 327 00:30:57,078 --> 00:31:04,563 Scorpion straight up rips off Copperhead's face and burns his body inside the suit with acid. 328 00:31:05,023 --> 00:31:14,177 AG9K, run the stats. Running calculations, processing results, simulations complete. Copperhead is 329 00:31:14,197 --> 00:31:19,300 a pretty cool character. I think he was a pretty solid match up for Scorpion. The characters 330 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:25,564 had a lot of stats that evened out, including movement speed, durability, intelligence, and 331 00:31:25,584 --> 00:31:30,387 they came pretty close in other stats like perception and versatility. Yeah, I think the two biggest 332 00:31:30,427 --> 00:31:35,786 discrepancies between their stats were strength and evasiveness. Copperhead. is really damn 333 00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:42,191 evasive. I had no idea that he was such a slippery character until our speculation. But Scorpion 334 00:31:42,392 --> 00:31:47,936 is stronger than Copperhead. We did say that Copperhead was a better fighter, but Scorpion 335 00:31:48,296 --> 00:31:52,940 is more versatile considering he can do everything Copperhead can do, but he also has, you know, 336 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:58,404 the laser beams and the acid. So with all that in consideration, Jonathan, who do you think 337 00:31:58,685 --> 00:32:03,048 is coming out on top in this match? I think both characters are pretty impressive. I'm 338 00:32:03,108 --> 00:32:10,316 hoping Copperhead comes out Not 100% sure. Instagram definitely disagrees with me in our poll so 339 00:32:10,396 --> 00:32:17,839 far. It looks like 67% of people believe that Scorpion will win this match. So about two 340 00:32:17,879 --> 00:32:24,342 thirds. Well, let's see if the stats agree with them. AJ9K, the results please. Hey, Yuasa. 341 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:35,426 All right, the winner between Copperhead and Scorpion is Scorpion. I figured, here I am! 342 00:32:35,947 --> 00:32:42,229 Rock you like a hurricane! You know, that song that's sung by the scorpions, Rock you like 343 00:32:42,249 --> 00:32:48,052 a hurricane. Anyway, Scorpion wins. Is there a band called Copperhead? Probably, but they 344 00:32:48,332 --> 00:32:54,715 probably suck. Anyway, this wasn't that close of a match. Scorpion beat Copperhead 627 times 345 00:32:55,095 --> 00:33:01,670 out of the 1000 battles, whereas Copperhead only won 373 matches. So it was Scorpion's 346 00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:10,872 62.7% win rate over Copperhead's 37.3% win rate. Well, that's dumb. In the end, Scorpion was 347 00:33:10,912 --> 00:33:16,994 just too strong. He had a slight range advantage considering that Copperhead doesn't really 348 00:33:17,014 --> 00:33:23,316 have much range at all except for his shorter tail and versatility. I think in the end, we 349 00:33:23,356 --> 00:33:28,217 learn here that size actually does matter. Yeah, the size of the helmet, right? And being lubed 350 00:33:28,377 --> 00:33:34,272 helps. Clearly not enough in Copperhead's case. But that does it for this duel guys. Congrats 351 00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:41,442 to Marvel fans for the win this go round. AJ9K helped close this out. Thanks for listening 352 00:33:41,462 --> 00:33:47,023 to Dynamic duel. Visit the show's website at dynamicduel.com and follow us on Instagram 353 00:33:47,083 --> 00:33:52,965 at dynamicduelpodcast. 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So we'll see if it's any better. 361 00:34:33,511 --> 00:34:37,353 But that does it for this episode. We want to give a big thanks to our executive producers. 362 00:34:37,718 --> 00:34:42,359 Ken Johnson, John Swarovski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Balcom, Miggy Mathen-Geehan, Brandon 363 00:34:42,419 --> 00:34:48,322 Estregard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Austin Wazilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil 364 00:34:48,362 --> 00:34:54,164 Camacho, Adam Spies, Andrew Shunk, Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Josh Leiner, 365 00:34:54,444 --> 00:34:59,987 and Mike Williams for helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk to you guys next week. 366 00:35:00,567 --> 00:35:06,469 Up up and away, true believers. I'm a snake. I'm a thnike. I'm a thlithery little thnakey 367 00:35:06,509 --> 00:35:06,929 thnike.