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Thanks guys, and on with the 7 00:00:33,310 --> 00:00:33,531 show. 8 00:00:53,966 --> 00:00:58,088 Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films 9 00:00:58,528 --> 00:01:03,351 and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based 10 00:01:03,451 --> 00:01:09,634 battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother, Johnny DC. And in this episode, 11 00:01:09,795 --> 00:01:16,598 we are going to count down the best that Marvel and DC put out in the year 2024 with our 9th 12 00:01:16,738 --> 00:01:22,574 annual Brothers Awards episode. Yeah, this is a super fun episode every year. Although Prior 13 00:01:22,594 --> 00:01:27,557 years have probably been more fun because this wasn't a great year for Marvel and DC films 14 00:01:27,617 --> 00:01:32,601 I would say. Whoa, speak for yourself. You can talk shit about DC all you want to, but leave 15 00:01:32,641 --> 00:01:37,244 Marvel alone. No no no. You did not have a bad year whatsoever. Marvel put out shit in the 16 00:01:37,264 --> 00:01:43,229 theaters this year. No, they didn't. And also, they put out great content on Disney+. Oh that's 17 00:01:43,269 --> 00:01:47,612 weird. Apparently Joseph loves Sony's Spider-Verse everyone. He just admitted it. 18 00:01:50,614 --> 00:01:55,677 We'll talk all about what shows and movies are getting our awards later on this episode. Before 19 00:01:55,697 --> 00:01:58,699 that we're going to break down the latest comic book movie news to come out this past week, 20 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:04,383 of which there was just one news item and that was the official trailer for the Your Friendly 21 00:02:04,403 --> 00:02:09,266 Neighborhood Spider-Man television series. As always we list our segment times in our episode 22 00:02:09,306 --> 00:02:13,589 description so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular 23 00:02:13,629 --> 00:02:19,493 topic. 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Last week we asked, 46 00:04:18,521 --> 00:04:24,983 on a scale of 1 to 10, how excited has the official teaser trailer for Superman made you for James 47 00:04:25,003 --> 00:04:31,385 Gunn's DCU? And why? And we got a whole lot of answers this week, 8 in total, so let's 48 00:04:31,405 --> 00:04:36,376 go ahead and count down our 3 honorable mentions. as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable 49 00:04:36,396 --> 00:04:43,282 mention goes to Daniel Alonso, who said, From one to 10, one, I guess, because I can't pick 50 00:04:43,322 --> 00:04:50,548 zero. I mean, Superman is one of the most boring characters of all time. I don't care, I've 51 00:04:50,648 --> 00:04:59,235 never cared. And then adding crypto, like, why? The animals in DC are so boring, no one cares. 52 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:05,131 The only version of Superman I've ever. And it pains me to say liked is Henry Cavill's, 53 00:05:05,191 --> 00:05:11,213 but God, I do not care at all about this movie. Did I say this was an honorable mention? Because 54 00:05:11,273 --> 00:05:16,976 I meant it was a dishonorable mention. It's so ironic that you are saying Superman is the 55 00:05:17,016 --> 00:05:24,759 most boring character because I thought that was your mom. What? Why are you getting personal? 56 00:05:25,179 --> 00:05:29,061 He didn't get personal. He just said he doesn't like Superman as a character because he's boring, 57 00:05:29,341 --> 00:05:35,316 which is a valid criticism. Well, I feel personally attacked because I loved this trailer and I 58 00:05:35,356 --> 00:05:39,958 don't see how anyone could say it was boring because like I mentioned, when we were discussing 59 00:05:39,999 --> 00:05:44,221 the trailer in our last episode, we see a side of Superman, a more human side that we really 60 00:05:44,241 --> 00:05:49,324 haven't seen on screen before. For people who think that the character of Superman is boring, 61 00:05:49,384 --> 00:05:54,507 do you think James Gunn's Superman movie will be the one to turn them around? If it doesn't, 62 00:05:54,747 --> 00:05:58,749 I don't know what can. And what do you have to say to the people who think that Superman 63 00:05:58,809 --> 00:06:04,529 is boring? You are on the wrong side of history, my friends. Wrong side. I know that a lot of 64 00:06:04,569 --> 00:06:09,633 people thought that characters like Captain America were boring prior to those MCU films 65 00:06:09,653 --> 00:06:15,056 coming out. So I really hope that the Superman movie does for the character of Superman that 66 00:06:15,216 --> 00:06:20,980 Captain America was able to do for Steve Rogers. And then some, because Steve Rogers is still 67 00:06:21,021 --> 00:06:27,165 pretty boring. You know what, Daniel Alonso, you're right. Good job. Our next honorable 68 00:06:27,185 --> 00:06:33,011 mention goes to. Travis Herndon who said, What's up Dun and Medoos, Travis here, shout out to 69 00:06:33,051 --> 00:06:37,972 my Evil Twins. So my scale would have to be a seven and a half out of ten. I think it looks 70 00:06:38,012 --> 00:06:43,574 really good, looks promising. The costumes and stuff, still gotta get used to those, but everything 71 00:06:43,634 --> 00:06:50,276 else looks pretty good. The music is just amazing. I mean, I'm a sucker for rock ballads. So honestly, 72 00:06:50,356 --> 00:06:56,282 yeah, looks promising to me, but I'm not putting my hopes up until I see the movie myself. And 73 00:06:56,302 --> 00:07:02,525 that's fair. It's fair to delay judgment until you see the final film in terms of how you're 74 00:07:02,545 --> 00:07:08,028 going to feel about James Gunn taking over the DCU. The trailer may be great, but that does 75 00:07:08,088 --> 00:07:13,711 automatically mean that his DCU will be great, although I hope it will be. So was the teaser 76 00:07:13,751 --> 00:07:19,215 trailer great? I thought so. Yeah, I thought it was fantastic. I think I'm more along the 77 00:07:19,255 --> 00:07:25,402 lines of Travis Herndon here. I'm at a steady like maybe seven, six and a half. kind of in 78 00:07:25,442 --> 00:07:30,467 terms of excitement level. Like the teaser trailer wasn't mind-blowingly awesome. It didn't blow 79 00:07:30,507 --> 00:07:35,652 me away. I thought it was pretty good. It was a great Superman movie trailer. As I mentioned, 80 00:07:35,812 --> 00:07:40,076 again, last episode, I didn't really have too many expectations and maybe that's why this 81 00:07:40,116 --> 00:07:46,042 trailer exceeded mine. I will totally admit that, but I can't help but love what I saw. 82 00:07:46,082 --> 00:07:51,322 I remember back in like 2012 when we got the first teaser trailer for Man of Steel, and 83 00:07:51,382 --> 00:07:55,625 I remember being blown away by that. I thought that was a fantastic teaser. I don't know if 84 00:07:55,665 --> 00:07:59,908 the trailer for this most recent iteration of Superman quite lived up to that. I think it 85 00:07:59,928 --> 00:08:04,992 was hard to really gauge that the first Man of Steel teaser trailer was a Superman movie 86 00:08:05,272 --> 00:08:10,456 because we got shots of like a butterfly on a porch swing and a guy walking down the road 87 00:08:10,476 --> 00:08:16,921 with a beard. It wasn't as much of a Superman movie as it was just like a fairly decent looking 88 00:08:17,321 --> 00:08:22,143 movie in general. I liked the music for that one, though I do have to say, as Travis Herndon 89 00:08:22,183 --> 00:08:26,506 mentioned, the rock ballad that they use here of John Williams' original score hit me way 90 00:08:26,546 --> 00:08:30,768 harder than I thought it would. Like when he's saving that young girl and the music is just 91 00:08:30,828 --> 00:08:37,151 swelling, I was like, holy crap, tears in my eyes. Tears in my eyes. Oh my god, get over 92 00:08:37,171 --> 00:08:42,614 yourself. Tears coming out of my eyes, bro. Thanks Travis Herndon for your answer. Our 93 00:08:42,654 --> 00:08:49,682 next honorable mention goes to Mason Thompson, who said, What's giddy? Plain and simple, 10 94 00:08:49,762 --> 00:08:56,125 out of 10. I love it, because I like how much it pops. I think James Gunn does that very 95 00:08:56,165 --> 00:09:01,928 well. And I think he represents more hope than Henry Cavill did. I don't know what it is about 96 00:09:01,988 --> 00:09:11,632 it, it just does. And then Guy Gardner's bowl cut, mwah. I like the actor for Lex Luthor, 97 00:09:11,972 --> 00:09:18,959 and I like Mr. Terrific, so 10 out of 10. Yeah, one of the major criticisms of the DCEU was 98 00:09:18,999 --> 00:09:26,301 how dark it was, not only in terms of themes, but also in terms of the cinematography. The 99 00:09:26,401 --> 00:09:31,142 colors in this new Superman movie looks like they really are going to pop and really jump 100 00:09:31,222 --> 00:09:36,104 at you on the screen. I was actually pretty amazed by how striking the visuals were in 101 00:09:36,144 --> 00:09:41,105 this trailer. And that's partly why I think people are getting a much more hopeful vibe 102 00:09:41,145 --> 00:09:47,101 from this universe. If you're a DC fan who reads DC comics, seeing things like Guy Garner's 103 00:09:47,141 --> 00:09:51,505 bowl cut, that's all really exciting because it feels like for the first time we're getting 104 00:09:51,545 --> 00:09:58,811 a pretty close translation of the comics characters to the screen in a more faithful way than perhaps 105 00:09:58,831 --> 00:10:02,874 we've had in the past. Well, it means that you're getting a shared universe like right out of 106 00:10:02,894 --> 00:10:08,419 the gate. Right. Yes, exactly. It's a risky move to jump in the deep end like that, but 107 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,506 we'll see if it pays off. My body is ready. Great answer, Mason. We want to give a quick 108 00:10:13,546 --> 00:10:19,508 shout out to Jarell, who called in for the first time. Thanks for calling in. John Storosky, 109 00:10:19,848 --> 00:10:25,289 Josh Hayward, and Michael Williams for taking the time to visit our website and record an 110 00:10:25,389 --> 00:10:32,371 answer. But the winner for this week's No Prize is Miggy Mathengian, who said, hey, what's 111 00:10:32,391 --> 00:10:36,292 up, guys? This is Miggy. And on a scale from 1 to 10, it would be a million. The Superman 112 00:10:36,312 --> 00:10:42,042 teaser trailer got me super hyped. It's everything I wanted and more. We got to see. the hope 113 00:10:42,062 --> 00:10:47,905 that Superman really embodies. We got to see him saving people and being who he is. We got 114 00:10:47,925 --> 00:10:54,009 to see crypto and the terrifics and the Daily Planet staff like Lois and his classic enemies 115 00:10:54,029 --> 00:10:58,972 like Lex. And a lot of people agree with me because it is the fifth most viewed trailer 116 00:10:59,072 --> 00:11:06,116 of all time. The fact that Warner Brothers Studios has been around as long as it has and Superman 117 00:11:06,156 --> 00:11:12,427 has become its most viewed trailer. bodes really, really well for this movie. It's the number 118 00:11:12,487 --> 00:11:16,890 five most viewed trailer of all time. And if you look at the four above it, they're all 119 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:21,952 Marvel films. Deadpool and Wolverine actually just set the number one record earlier this 120 00:11:21,992 --> 00:11:28,156 year, but also all four of them went on to gross over a billion dollars. I'm not saying that 121 00:11:28,196 --> 00:11:34,659 means Superman is going to gross over a billion dollars, but man, what a precedent. Does high 122 00:11:34,719 --> 00:11:39,934 trailer views on YouTube correlate to enjoyment of the trailer? Or do you think a lot of them 123 00:11:39,954 --> 00:11:46,698 were hate views? No, no one hate watches stuff that many times. It's it's hype factor. It 124 00:11:46,718 --> 00:11:52,701 officially has like the biggest hype factor of a Warner Brothers or DC movie ever, apparently 125 00:11:52,801 --> 00:11:56,863 right at the gate. It's awesome. I hate watched it a few times. I'm just going to say that. 126 00:11:57,303 --> 00:12:02,826 You know what? That's fine. Keep adding to it. The numbers. Anyone who didn't like the trailer 127 00:12:02,846 --> 00:12:07,129 should definitely hate watch it at least five or six more times. And the movie in theaters 128 00:12:07,169 --> 00:12:11,707 as well. Right. Go hate watch that. At least three times. Well congrats to Miggy for winning 129 00:12:11,727 --> 00:12:15,534 this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned 130 00:12:15,554 --> 00:12:19,441 to later on this episode when we'll be asking another Question of the Week. And now that 131 00:12:19,461 --> 00:12:21,164 that's done, onto the news! 132 00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:31,013 Alright, this past week we got our first official trailer for the Your Friendly Neighborhood 133 00:12:31,073 --> 00:12:37,017 Spider-Man series, which is going to debut in January of 2025, so just in a few weeks here. 134 00:12:37,537 --> 00:12:42,220 It's pretty late to be getting a trailer, but maybe that's because when I watched it I didn't 135 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:47,424 like too much of anything that I saw. I'm just gonna say it right off the bat. I didn't love 136 00:12:47,464 --> 00:12:53,248 this trailer. What didn't you like about it? Okay, so for a bit of context, this show was 137 00:12:53,308 --> 00:12:59,010 originally going to be Spider-Man Freshman and it was going to be a look at the MCU version 138 00:12:59,050 --> 00:13:03,272 of Peter Parker, you know, the Tom Holland version. It was basically going to be his origin story. 139 00:13:03,592 --> 00:13:10,114 But the show was later retooled to be an alternate universe version of Peter Parker. You know, 140 00:13:10,154 --> 00:13:13,835 this is definitely not the MCU version of Peter Parker. But you know, there's supposed to be 141 00:13:13,855 --> 00:13:19,376 a lot of parallels here. One of the parallels we see here is that instead of Tony Stark mentoring 142 00:13:19,576 --> 00:13:23,786 Peter Parker, it's going to be Norman Osborn, which is an interesting take. Yeah, and instead 143 00:13:23,806 --> 00:13:28,531 of getting the Iron Spider suit, he gets like the Future Foundation suit. Yeah, that's one 144 00:13:28,571 --> 00:13:32,696 of the things I don't like. That's at the end of the trailer. But yeah, it is weird that 145 00:13:32,996 --> 00:13:37,221 Spider-Man's initial Spider-Man costume outside of his homemade one is going to be the Future 146 00:13:37,241 --> 00:13:43,608 Foundation, which, of course, in the comic books is a white and black Spider-Man outfit that 147 00:13:43,628 --> 00:13:49,771 was given to Peter Parker. By Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic, when he formed the Future Foundation 148 00:13:49,931 --> 00:13:54,552 in honor of Johnny Storm, who at the time had died in the Negative Zone in the comic books. 149 00:13:55,152 --> 00:14:00,774 And it was a science organization and it was a cool looking outfit. But it is weird for 150 00:14:00,794 --> 00:14:05,575 that to be his first, like, official outfit within this particular universe. So that was 151 00:14:05,595 --> 00:14:10,136 like one of the things I didn't like. I also don't really like his initial homemade outfit. 152 00:14:10,296 --> 00:14:15,342 Like, it doesn't have the goggles from the MCU version of Spider-Man that we saw. Like it 153 00:14:15,382 --> 00:14:18,825 comes with his curved eye lenses, like right off the bat, which I thought was a little bit 154 00:14:18,865 --> 00:14:23,308 weird. But also the suit doesn't look very appealing, despite the fact that it's supposed to be, 155 00:14:23,348 --> 00:14:27,652 you know, homemade. Yeah, it's almost more like Scarlett Spider's costume. Well, yeah, I mean, 156 00:14:27,812 --> 00:14:32,596 that's what inspired Tom Holland's version of his homemade outfit. But I really liked the 157 00:14:32,616 --> 00:14:36,118 way they took that one, where it was like a hoodie, you know, with the goggles. Here we 158 00:14:36,138 --> 00:14:40,750 have more like a sports jersey with the curved lenses and everything like that. He's wearing 159 00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:45,012 a backpack which holds his web fluid which is connected to his wrists via these hose cables. 160 00:14:45,672 --> 00:14:50,574 It's all just very different. I didn't like some of the scenes that we got here where Spider-Man 161 00:14:50,774 --> 00:14:56,597 is beating up a bunch of high school bullies. He straight up web slings a brick into one 162 00:14:56,617 --> 00:15:01,239 of the kid's head. I'm pretty sure he commits murder in the course of this trailer. It just 163 00:15:01,259 --> 00:15:06,721 seems a little bit violent for the character. I'm not anti-cartoon violence, but I'm pretty 164 00:15:06,761 --> 00:15:10,995 sure... that in the next shot where we see the kid who got hit in the head with a brick, he's 165 00:15:11,055 --> 00:15:16,658 totally comatose. And I don't know, it's just, it's weird. This feels a little bit nitpicky, 166 00:15:17,038 --> 00:15:21,380 but everything just falls in line with my prior biases that I had developed against the show. 167 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:26,202 We see Peter Parker say deuce is out. I thought that was fucking weird. It is cool to see Liz 168 00:15:26,302 --> 00:15:30,565 Allen and Nico Minoru within the trailer. I'm really interested in seeing what they do with 169 00:15:30,625 --> 00:15:35,062 Nico if she's gonna get her staff of one. and maybe there's gonna be like a runaways tie 170 00:15:35,102 --> 00:15:38,924 in with this particular series. That would be really cool. But that would be one of the few 171 00:15:38,964 --> 00:15:42,846 things that I would be looking forward to. I understand your criticisms, though I guess 172 00:15:42,926 --> 00:15:47,248 I am surprised that you didn't like this. I didn't care for it too much. I definitely thought 173 00:15:47,268 --> 00:15:51,750 you were going to like it more than I did. I actually did like the animation style. It reminded 174 00:15:51,790 --> 00:15:57,432 me very much of like a Silver Age kind of Steve Ditko approach. But that said, I could also 175 00:15:57,472 --> 00:16:02,739 criticize that because I would much rather see. then continue the what-if animation style for 176 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:08,642 MCU projects, just to keep that branding, essentially. No, I mean, I don't need that at all. I mean, 177 00:16:08,682 --> 00:16:14,165 look at X-Men 97. Well, that's not in the MCU. Neither is this, you know? And actually, now 178 00:16:14,185 --> 00:16:18,968 that I mentioned that, the ideal version of this project, considering how good X-Men 97 179 00:16:19,008 --> 00:16:24,671 was, would have been for them to make Spider-Man 98, which is the year that the 90's Spider-Man 180 00:16:24,711 --> 00:16:28,973 cartoon ended. And that cartoon was fantastic. You know, it was a quintessential Spider-Man 181 00:16:29,013 --> 00:16:33,704 cartoon. which came out concurrently with the X-Men 90s cartoon. So I think I would have 182 00:16:33,724 --> 00:16:38,947 preferred that a million times more than what we're getting here with this strange quasi 183 00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:45,030 MCU take on Spider-Man. Yeah, that seemingly has one foot in the MCU and one foot out. Yeah. 184 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:51,554 I get it. I would have loved to have seen like year one of the MCU Peter Parker. Yeah, I either 185 00:16:51,574 --> 00:16:56,677 wanted freshman year or Spider-Man 98. This whole criticism of the trailer just feels like 186 00:16:56,717 --> 00:17:00,118 me bitching and moaning. But I think a lot of people would at least agree that what could 187 00:17:00,138 --> 00:17:04,300 have been for this show would have been better. So when we review this, are you going to count 188 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,082 that against this show? No, I'm going to try to go in as objective as possible. You know, 189 00:17:09,322 --> 00:17:13,324 for everything that I'm saying about the show, it could have really tremendously well-written 190 00:17:13,384 --> 00:17:17,906 stories. And in that case, I'm going to rate it accordingly. But I just want to on the record 191 00:17:17,946 --> 00:17:22,128 basically that this show probably could have been something better. Well, who knows? Maybe 192 00:17:22,148 --> 00:17:27,598 we'll end up seeing this version of Spider-Man in the Beyond the Spider-Verse movie. or in 193 00:17:27,638 --> 00:17:31,004 Secret Wars or something, who knows. I guess we'll find out how good the show is when it 194 00:17:31,044 --> 00:17:36,595 starts streaming on Disney Plus on January 29th. But speaking of people's anticipation and excitement 195 00:17:36,615 --> 00:17:39,560 levels, for this series that brings us to our question of the week. 196 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:49,554 On a scale of 1-10, how excited has the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man trailer made you for 197 00:17:49,574 --> 00:17:54,779 the series, and why? This question is kind of similar to last week's question about the Superman 198 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:59,843 trailer, but it's going to be about this animated series. Record your answer at dynamicduel.com 199 00:18:00,124 --> 00:18:03,667 by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, 200 00:18:03,987 --> 00:18:07,910 which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, 201 00:18:08,211 --> 00:18:12,114 and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our 202 00:18:12,154 --> 00:18:16,964 favorite answer and award that person a dynamic duel no prize that we'll post to Instagram. 203 00:18:17,324 --> 00:18:19,949 Be sure to answer before January 4th. 204 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:31,352 That does it for all the news for this episode. So let's go ahead and move on to our main event, 205 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:37,075 which will be the 2024 Brothers Awards instead of like going with a purple carpet or a red 206 00:18:37,095 --> 00:18:40,997 and blue striped carpet. Jonathan, let's go with the carpet whose fibers are like red on 207 00:18:41,097 --> 00:18:45,119 one side and blue on the other. So like the carpet changes color as people walk on it. 208 00:18:45,139 --> 00:18:50,983 No, no, no. Two separate carpets. All right. Yeah, let's segregate the Marvel fans from 209 00:18:51,003 --> 00:18:56,005 the DC fans. You're right. Red carpet goes to the back door. Blue carpet goes to the front. 210 00:18:56,758 --> 00:19:01,125 The red carpet goes to the glass elevator. Anyway, we're getting too caught up on this carpet 211 00:19:01,165 --> 00:19:06,173 thing, but let's go ahead and get seated for the 9th Annual Brothers Awards. 212 00:19:15,362 --> 00:19:21,206 All right, everybody, welcome to the 2024 Brothers Awards. It is the premiere event that we hold 213 00:19:21,346 --> 00:19:26,450 every year on this show where we award the best onscreen content to come out from Marvel and 214 00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:31,313 DC. Yeah, it's an award show that we've done every year since the podcast started back in 215 00:19:31,353 --> 00:19:35,616 2016. If you've listened to one of our award shows before, you'll know that the Brothers 216 00:19:35,676 --> 00:19:41,701 Awards are actually named after the Marvel and DC Red and Blue Brothers that represented their 217 00:19:41,741 --> 00:19:48,267 respective universes. in the DC vs Marvel comic mini series that came out in the 90s. Yeah, 218 00:19:48,307 --> 00:19:53,608 we award these statuettes to Marvel and DC Media in 10 different categories, including Best 219 00:19:53,649 --> 00:19:59,930 Trailer, Best Original Music, Best New On-Screen Character, Best Villain, Best Hero, Best Moment, 220 00:20:00,070 --> 00:20:07,292 Best Actress, Best Actor, Best Series Slash Special, and finally Best Picture. Ten different 221 00:20:07,312 --> 00:20:12,634 categories, each with four nominees from which we pick the winner. Yeah, anything that came 222 00:20:12,714 --> 00:20:19,160 out in theaters or on a streaming platform is eligible to win. For Marvel, in 2024 that included 223 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:25,064 the theatrical films Madame Web, Deadpool and Wolverine, Venom the Last Dance, and Kraven 224 00:20:25,105 --> 00:20:32,010 the Hunter. And on streaming, there was Echo Season 1, X-Men 97 Season 1, Hitmonkey Season 225 00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:38,976 2, Agatha All Along Season 1, and What If Season 3. So 9 different Marvel projects eligible 226 00:20:39,016 --> 00:20:46,260 for a Brothers Award in 2024. Whereas DC had 13, that included the feature films Justice 227 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:54,084 League Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3, Watchmen Chapters 1 and 2, and 228 00:20:54,244 --> 00:21:01,008 Joker Folie a Deux. For streaming services we had Dead Boy Detective Season 1, My Adventures 229 00:21:01,028 --> 00:21:09,573 with Superman Season 2, Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1, Batman Caped Crusader Season 1, Kite 230 00:21:09,613 --> 00:21:16,717 Man Hell Yeah! Season one and the Penguin season one. A lot of season ones here. A lot of content 231 00:21:16,777 --> 00:21:21,159 for sure. Although not as much as previous years. I think largely due to the writer's strike, 232 00:21:21,499 --> 00:21:29,504 but enough to work with. That's what you say. No, this was a tough year. I feel like for 233 00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:35,287 DC and Marvel too for both of us. Not really, no. Yes, don't lie. Don't lie to yourself. 234 00:21:35,727 --> 00:21:40,774 Let's go ahead and get started with our first category, which is best trailer. The way I 235 00:21:40,814 --> 00:21:45,356 picked the nominees and the winner for best trailer are the trailers that not only got 236 00:21:45,376 --> 00:21:50,899 me very excited for the upcoming project, but also I think gave us something new and exciting. 237 00:21:51,339 --> 00:21:56,742 Yeah, it should be noted that the content eligible for this award was not necessarily on our list 238 00:21:56,822 --> 00:22:01,905 of projects that came out in 2024. Right. They could be trailers for projects that come out 239 00:22:01,945 --> 00:22:08,409 in 2025. Let me run down the Marvel nominees. The nominees are Captain America Brave New 240 00:22:08,449 --> 00:22:15,218 World Official Trailer. Your inner circle's been compromised. Let me fix it. Watch yourself. 241 00:22:15,238 --> 00:22:22,504 You're not Steve Rogers. You're right. I'm not. Deadpool and Wolverine. Official teaser. You 242 00:22:22,524 --> 00:22:28,529 don't just stand there, you ape. Give me a hand up. Nope, I'm actually okay. Thank you very 243 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:38,997 much. Thunderbolts. D23 Brazil special look. You are all so adorable. Eat shit, Valentina. 244 00:22:43,286 --> 00:22:47,379 Venom The Last Dance Final Trailer What's his name then? 245 00:22:51,068 --> 00:22:51,816 We have something in me. 246 00:22:54,954 --> 00:23:01,580 That's a solid lineup. If I had to guess which one of those gets the win this year, that's 247 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,544 tough. It might be the Thunderbolts because I know you like the TOTY's Possum Kingdom that 248 00:23:06,604 --> 00:23:11,148 song was used in the Thunderbolts trailer. But I also really liked the style of the Brave 249 00:23:11,188 --> 00:23:15,813 New World trailer. So I think I'm going to go with that. That's my guess. And the winner 250 00:23:15,913 --> 00:23:22,378 is. Captain America, Brave New World official trailer. Alright, you guessed correctly right 251 00:23:22,418 --> 00:23:26,920 out of the gate. Yeah, Captain America Brave New World was a different kind of trailer for 252 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,862 Marvel. You know, they've never really put out something that stylistic ever really. You know, 253 00:23:32,002 --> 00:23:37,424 the trailer didn't have the typical Marvel Studios title card. It was heavily stylized with like 254 00:23:37,484 --> 00:23:43,307 split screenshots and kind of creepy sound effects and everything like that just really evoked 255 00:23:43,427 --> 00:23:48,489 the best political thrillers ever made. Yeah, there was no music. There were no jokes. It 256 00:23:48,529 --> 00:23:54,056 felt very off brand for Marvel. but also it was really intriguing. Yeah, the trailer was 257 00:23:54,076 --> 00:23:59,261 a big swing for Marvel, I feel like, and it gets me excited for the future of Marvel trailers 258 00:23:59,341 --> 00:24:04,165 and how stylistic they're willing to go with them from here on out. And also excited for 259 00:24:04,285 --> 00:24:09,110 Captain America Brave New World. I am really pumped to see that now. Regarding the other 260 00:24:09,150 --> 00:24:13,774 nominees, I nominated Venom, The Last Dance final trailer, because that was when we got 261 00:24:13,834 --> 00:24:17,777 word that Null was gonna be in the movie. We didn't know that before, so that got me super 262 00:24:17,817 --> 00:24:23,108 pumped. Of course, the D23 Brazil special look for Thunderbolts was fantastic. It was an extended 263 00:24:23,168 --> 00:24:29,051 preview for the film and Deadpool and Wolverine. The teaser for that film came out around the 264 00:24:29,091 --> 00:24:34,114 Super Bowl, and it just got me all sorts of hyped. Like we didn't even see Wolverine in 265 00:24:34,154 --> 00:24:39,077 that preview until we see his shadow walk over Deadpool laying on the ground and his claws 266 00:24:39,117 --> 00:24:42,659 pop. And then we get the official title of the movie, which was Deadpool and Wolverine. So 267 00:24:42,919 --> 00:24:47,282 that was all just very exciting. But yeah, Captain America Brave New World gets the win. for its 268 00:24:47,322 --> 00:24:53,771 stylistic choices. Great year for Marvel trailers, absolutely. Also a great year for DC trailers. 269 00:24:53,871 --> 00:25:02,103 And let me get into my nominations. The nominees for best DC trailer are Joker, Folie a Deux, official 270 00:25:02,143 --> 00:25:04,065 teaser trailer. Whoa. 271 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:29,229 The Penguin Season 1 Official Teaser 2 Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1 Official Trailer 3 272 00:25:38,578 --> 00:25:40,965 Superman official teaser trailer 273 00:25:44,174 --> 00:25:46,380 crypto Home david home 274 00:25:50,270 --> 00:25:54,036 I think this one's pretty clear cut. I think you're going to give it to Superman because 275 00:25:54,216 --> 00:25:58,783 even though it's a mid trailer, you just seem to really be gung-ho for it. So that's my guess. 276 00:25:59,324 --> 00:26:07,343 And the winner is... Superman Official Teaser Trailer. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I gave 277 00:26:07,383 --> 00:26:12,488 this one the award, not only because it was the most recent one and very top of mind, but 278 00:26:12,528 --> 00:26:17,853 also because of, again, how hyped it gets me for James Gunn's universe as a whole. It's 279 00:26:17,973 --> 00:26:23,118 really awesome to be a DC fan right now and have something like an entirely new universe 280 00:26:23,178 --> 00:26:28,083 to look forward to, especially after a trailer like this that makes you fairly confident in 281 00:26:28,303 --> 00:26:33,090 the quality and tone that universe will have. I think prior to the release of the Superman 282 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:39,432 trailer, you were most excited by the Joker Folly-A-Do trailer. I almost gave that one 283 00:26:39,452 --> 00:26:47,594 the win because that teaser trailer was incredible. What the World Needs Now, a song by Tom Jones, 284 00:26:48,054 --> 00:26:52,675 just fit perfectly with the tone and the footage that they were showing. It looked like it was 285 00:26:52,695 --> 00:26:59,337 going to be another masterpiece from Todd Phillips, and it really set my expectations unbelievably 286 00:26:59,377 --> 00:27:05,886 high. dashed on the rocks below once the movie finally came out and we all saw it. Yeah, that 287 00:27:05,906 --> 00:27:10,070 was definitely an instance of the trailer being better than the movie. Yeah. Regarding the 288 00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:14,434 other two nominees, the Penguin Season 1, Official Teaser 2, and Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1, 289 00:27:14,794 --> 00:27:20,199 Official Trailer 3, I chose those largely because they also got me really excited and pumped 290 00:27:20,579 --> 00:27:25,684 for the upcoming projects. I was actually really happy with just about every trailer that came 291 00:27:25,764 --> 00:27:30,106 out for DC this year. Well, let's go ahead and move on to our next category, which is best 292 00:27:30,266 --> 00:27:37,608 original music. Music in movies and television have a way of moving and affecting audiences 293 00:27:37,889 --> 00:27:43,370 in a way they may not even realize. A good score can go a long way in setting the tone for a 294 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:49,592 film and our emotional response to it. Yeah, the way I usually judge a film's music is by 295 00:27:49,692 --> 00:27:55,814 how evocative it is of the material you're seeing on the screen. If it's iconic. That's a big 296 00:27:55,854 --> 00:28:00,756 bonus. And of course, I try to pick out what's unique as well. This category encompasses both 297 00:28:00,796 --> 00:28:07,078 the score and original songs that were made for the movie. DC had some great music this 298 00:28:07,118 --> 00:28:14,721 year, and let me go over my nominees. The nominees for best DC original music are Dead Boy Detectives, 299 00:28:15,081 --> 00:28:15,741 season one. 300 00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:32,066 Joker, follow ya'll do. 301 00:28:38,798 --> 00:28:48,748 I'll follow you. Take my hand. Stay here, my friend. The Penguin, season one. 302 00:28:59,082 --> 00:29:06,195 may be trouble ahead. Suicide Squad Isekai, Season 1. 303 00:29:20,962 --> 00:29:26,425 These are good options. The music for The Penguin was fantastic, but I think ultimately you're 304 00:29:26,445 --> 00:29:31,209 gonna give it to Suicide Squad Isekai, because the music for that show was just next level. 305 00:29:31,689 --> 00:29:39,314 And the winner is Joker, Ballyadoo. What? No! Are you joking me? You think I wouldn't give 306 00:29:39,374 --> 00:29:47,820 it to a musical that had good music? The songs for that movie sucked. No, you are wrong, my 307 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,319 friend. If you listen to the soundtrack, of Joker Folly I do, it's actually a really damn 308 00:29:53,339 --> 00:29:57,481 good soundtrack. And it actually had multiple soundtracks. Not only did it have the score 309 00:29:57,521 --> 00:30:03,345 from Hilda Gunnedadder, which crushed it, it also had an original soundtrack featuring songs 310 00:30:03,425 --> 00:30:09,008 from Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. And on top of that, Lady Gaga released a side album called 311 00:30:09,088 --> 00:30:13,850 Harley Quinn, featuring a lot of the same music from the movie, as well as some original songs 312 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:20,830 that she composed, which just blew my mind how classic they sound. The movie was terrible, 313 00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:27,973 but amidst the garbage that was on the screen was not the music. You know, you usually have 314 00:30:28,213 --> 00:30:34,136 a controversial choice every year. And I think this is your controversial choice for this 315 00:30:34,156 --> 00:30:39,418 year. I think you're going to get a lot of flack from fans when they see this award being posted 316 00:30:39,458 --> 00:30:43,540 to Instagram, but I think you at least you have a good reasoning behind this one, better reasoning 317 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:49,683 than you have had in past years with your controversial choices. I'm going to share the albums with 318 00:30:49,723 --> 00:30:53,946 you and I hope you listen to them. And I think you'll agree with me at the end of the day. 319 00:30:54,406 --> 00:31:02,812 I won't listen to it. OK. Dead Boy Detectives, the Penguin, both had really solid scoring 320 00:31:02,872 --> 00:31:08,596 throughout the series. Suicide Squad was interesting also in that it had original music from artists 321 00:31:08,656 --> 00:31:13,419 like Maury Kaliope, which was used in the end credits for each episode. Yeah, those songs 322 00:31:13,439 --> 00:31:16,966 were bangers. And that was, I think, the clear winner. here. 323 00:31:45,522 --> 00:31:46,876 Echo, season one. 324 00:32:01,622 --> 00:32:03,060 Hit Monkey Season 2 325 00:32:17,902 --> 00:32:18,717 Kraven the Hunter. 326 00:32:34,122 --> 00:32:40,467 have to say that the music choices they made for Hit Monkey season two were phenomenal but 327 00:32:40,668 --> 00:32:46,993 I don't know how many of those were original to the show. Agatha all along was the closest 328 00:32:47,093 --> 00:32:52,498 thing that Marvel had to a musical this year so I think that's gonna get the win. And the 329 00:32:52,538 --> 00:32:59,725 winner is Agatha all along season one. Alright you're just nailing the guesses so far. Two 330 00:32:59,765 --> 00:33:05,844 for two! Yeah, Agatha all along season one did things with music that we haven't seen since 331 00:33:05,924 --> 00:33:12,667 Wandavision in that we had a lot of original music and the score for the show itself was 332 00:33:12,727 --> 00:33:18,509 top notch. It was incredible to listen to. Echo had a lot of great original songs, including 333 00:33:18,569 --> 00:33:23,411 some really awesome Native American music, as well as a very heavy desert rock sounding riffs. 334 00:33:24,432 --> 00:33:29,518 Hit Monkey, as always, is just a fantastic show that not only includes a lot of great pulls 335 00:33:29,678 --> 00:33:35,681 in their soundtrack, but the score itself is a great mix of rock and EDM and hip-hop and 336 00:33:35,761 --> 00:33:40,944 R&B. It's just fantastic to listen to. Kraven the Hunter I included on here largely because 337 00:33:40,984 --> 00:33:45,487 I thought it was more unique than the other options that Marvel had released this year 338 00:33:45,627 --> 00:33:51,110 in that Kraven had a lot of music with strong African influences and traditional Russian 339 00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:55,873 music. I don't think I even really noticed the score from Kraven. Well, I'll send you the 340 00:33:55,913 --> 00:34:00,006 link to the album and you can check it out. I will listen to it if you listen to all three 341 00:34:00,046 --> 00:34:06,268 Joker albums. I won't. Then fuck off. Let's go ahead and move on to our next category, 342 00:34:06,608 --> 00:34:11,909 which is best new on screen character. Now we like to give this award to the characters that 343 00:34:12,089 --> 00:34:17,471 are new and surprising and hopefully exciting on the big and small screen. You know, a lot 344 00:34:17,511 --> 00:34:22,112 of the reason why fans enjoy watching these movies and shows is to see who's going to be 345 00:34:22,232 --> 00:34:26,013 adapted next and what they're going to look like and what their powers are going to be 346 00:34:26,053 --> 00:34:31,047 portrayed as. So this is always an exciting award. Yeah, specifically the nominees eligible 347 00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:37,970 for this award are characters that appear for the first time within a specific universe. 348 00:34:38,331 --> 00:34:42,793 Right, yeah, when you talk about the multiverse, things get a little bit tricky because you 349 00:34:42,833 --> 00:34:48,595 may see new iterations of characters that you've seen previously, but we consider a new adaptation 350 00:34:48,635 --> 00:34:54,615 essentially to be a new version of the character. Let's get into the Marvel Award. The nominees 351 00:34:54,676 --> 00:35:00,749 for best Marvel new on-screen character are Gambit from Deadpool and Wolverine. 352 00:35:05,642 --> 00:35:08,033 Null from Venom the Last Dance. 353 00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:15,752 Kraven the Hunter from Kraven the Hunter. 354 00:35:20,534 --> 00:35:23,705 Wiccan from Agatha All Along, Season 1. 355 00:35:28,562 --> 00:35:33,103 Oh, interesting. Does Wiccan technically count? Because we've seen the character in the MCU 356 00:35:33,223 --> 00:35:38,025 earlier. Yeah, but that wasn't even the same kid. And I'm not talking just about actor wise. 357 00:35:39,066 --> 00:35:43,708 And if you've seen Agatha all along, you'll know what I'm talking about. OK. Either way, 358 00:35:43,748 --> 00:35:49,050 I don't think he got the win. I think the winner, hands down, is Gambit from Deadpool and Wolverine. 359 00:35:49,570 --> 00:35:57,193 And the winner is Wiccan from Agatha All Along, season one. Wow. Controversial choice. All 360 00:35:57,213 --> 00:36:03,623 right. This is yours. Is it? Here you go. So we've seen Wiccan in the WandaVision television 361 00:36:03,663 --> 00:36:09,805 series that came out back in 2021, but that wasn't really the official version of the character. 362 00:36:09,845 --> 00:36:14,246 He was just wearing a Halloween costume and it was more of an Easter egg than anything. 363 00:36:14,666 --> 00:36:19,508 In Agatha all along, we got to see the fully realized version of Wiccan from the comic books 364 00:36:19,988 --> 00:36:25,269 who had the full costume and all of his magic powers. And I thought it was a great adaptation, 365 00:36:25,329 --> 00:36:32,724 especially in the way that they chose to adapt the character of Billy Kaplan. How he was once 366 00:36:32,824 --> 00:36:36,806 Billy Maximoff. I don't want to give away too many spoilers because there are more to be 367 00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:42,108 had there. But it was just a beautiful story. And I thought Joe Locke did a fantastic job 368 00:36:42,208 --> 00:36:47,370 playing the character and out of all the new characters that were debuted this year, I think 369 00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:53,973 I'm most interested in seeing more of the story of Wiccan. Nah, not Gambit. I want that Gambit 370 00:36:54,013 --> 00:36:58,703 movie. I will be surprised if we see Channing Tatum back in the role again. Like maybe he'll 371 00:36:58,723 --> 00:37:02,404 have another cameo in the Secret Wars movie or something like that. But I don't think he's 372 00:37:02,924 --> 00:37:08,705 the MCU's long term gambit. I don't think he's the MCU's gambit, but I think we'll definitely 373 00:37:08,765 --> 00:37:14,927 see him again. For sure in Secret Wars. I will bet money on that. Yeah, I wouldn't take that 374 00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:20,789 bet. Now, Wickham, he did a good job. Actually, all of your nominees were pretty awesome on 375 00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:26,064 this list. Noel wasn't seen too much. Kraven was, you know, Aaron Taylor Johnson did a good 376 00:37:26,084 --> 00:37:31,988 job acting, even though it was Kraven in name only. But I still would have chosen Gambit 377 00:37:32,188 --> 00:37:36,091 if it was my award. You thought he was going to make a name for himself here? Hoo yeah, 378 00:37:36,131 --> 00:37:43,817 boy. Well, let's move on to the DC award. The nominees for best DC new onscreen character 379 00:37:44,137 --> 00:37:48,501 are Charles Rowland from Dead Boy Detectives Season 1. 380 00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:56,902 Edwin Payne from Dead Boy Detectives Season 1. 381 00:38:01,634 --> 00:38:05,099 Harleen Quinzel from Joker Folie a Deux. 382 00:38:09,826 --> 00:38:13,097 Victor Aguilar from The Penguin, season one. 383 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:22,945 Oh, this is a lackluster list. I have no idea what direction you're going to go with this, 384 00:38:23,045 --> 00:38:28,109 but I think my own personal choice would probably be Charles Rowland from Dead Boy Detectives. 385 00:38:28,649 --> 00:38:35,974 And the winner is Victor Aguilar from The Penguin season one. OK, yeah, I can totally see why 386 00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:40,597 you went this route for me, I think just due to the fact that the character was original 387 00:38:40,637 --> 00:38:45,180 to the series. And so it was an exciting as an adaptation from the source material. It 388 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,938 would have been the reason why I didn't choose him. I had a tough time choosing the winner 389 00:38:48,978 --> 00:38:53,599 for this award this year. I really wanted to give it to Charles Rowland. He was my runner 390 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:58,701 up because I thought the actors who were in the Dead Boy Detectives did a fantastic job 391 00:38:58,801 --> 00:39:03,342 with their performances and the show is just really cool. Ultimately though, I gave the 392 00:39:03,362 --> 00:39:09,043 win to the character that I think had the biggest impact on me and that had to be Victor Aguilar 393 00:39:09,083 --> 00:39:16,025 from The Penguin. I grew to really love that character as the season progressed and I don't 394 00:39:16,045 --> 00:39:21,695 want to give away any spoilers. But what happens to him in the end of that show is devastating. 395 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:27,316 And I feel like I'm still devastated by that. It was a fantastic show, largely in part because 396 00:39:27,396 --> 00:39:32,978 of a character like Victor. For sure. That final episode of The Penguin had a lasting impression. 397 00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:38,139 And Renzi Feliz gave a great performance as well. Absolutely. Give the guy an Emmy. Let's 398 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:43,081 go ahead and move on to the next category, which is best villain. Of course, a hero is only 399 00:39:43,121 --> 00:39:48,434 as good as his villain. I found that. What really makes a good Marvel and DC television show 400 00:39:48,474 --> 00:39:53,416 or movie is the quality of the villain. You know, a project that has a weak villain usually 401 00:39:53,456 --> 00:39:58,237 isn't that impressive. So we like to give accolades to the best villains from this year. Yeah, 402 00:39:58,297 --> 00:40:02,878 villains, you love to hate them, but they really set the stakes for the projects that they're 403 00:40:02,978 --> 00:40:09,000 in. And story wise, stakes are huge. It's the whole reason for why the hero fights the good 404 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:16,945 fight. Let's start with DC. The nominees for best DC villain are Esther Finch from Dead 405 00:40:16,966 --> 00:40:18,713 Boy Detectives Season 1. 406 00:40:23,426 --> 00:40:26,824 Harleen Quinzel from Joker Folie a Deux. 407 00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:35,516 Joker from Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1. 408 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:44,144 Sophia Falcone from The Penguin, season one. 409 00:40:48,966 --> 00:40:53,867 Oh, man, I was about to say that this was a lackluster list until you got to that final 410 00:40:54,107 --> 00:40:58,728 nominee. I think you're definitely going to give it to Sophia Falcone. And the winner is. 411 00:41:00,249 --> 00:41:06,671 Sophia Falcone from the Penguin season one. All right, I finally got one. Yeah, we got 412 00:41:06,791 --> 00:41:11,372 Superman the trailer, too. But you're getting two for four. So if you felt Cohn was a no 413 00:41:11,412 --> 00:41:16,733 brainer on this list, although I did love the Joker twist at the end of Suicide Squad, Isakai. 414 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:23,913 but for a majority of the Penguin series, Sophia Falcone was just remarkable as a villain and 415 00:41:23,953 --> 00:41:29,817 antagonist for Oswald Cobb. I guess I'm most surprised by your nominees that you included 416 00:41:29,937 --> 00:41:36,140 Harley Quinn in Joker Follyado. Did you consider her the villain of that movie? Cause I would 417 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,584 have figured it was probably like Harvey Dent. No, I thought Lee Quinzel was a much bigger 418 00:41:42,964 --> 00:41:47,578 antagonist for Arthur Fleck. than Harvey Dent was, even though Arthur Fleck probably would 419 00:41:47,618 --> 00:41:52,780 not admit that. Or maybe like the security guard. He'd definitely be a villain as well. I guess 420 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,161 it's arguable as to who the main antagonist was. But for my money, that was Lee Quinzel. 421 00:41:58,621 --> 00:42:05,123 She was awful. I hated her. Was Esther Finch the witch in Dead Boy Detectives? Yes. OK, 422 00:42:05,163 --> 00:42:11,105 yeah, she was great. She was fantastic, but not as great as Kirsten Melody as Sophia Falcone. 423 00:42:11,365 --> 00:42:15,986 She knocked it out of the park. episode to episode. She was essentially the second star of the 424 00:42:16,006 --> 00:42:20,908 show. And I wasn't thrilled initially that she was going to be the lead villain of the series, 425 00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:27,330 but I thought she was put to use expertly in having Azkab rise to the role of the Penguin. 426 00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:32,111 And performance wise, Kristen Milioti scared the shit out of me. So yeah, she was very effective 427 00:42:32,251 --> 00:42:39,193 as a villain. Yes, hands down. Give her the Emmy. Let's move on to the Marvel Award. The 428 00:42:39,253 --> 00:42:45,109 nominees for best Marvel villain are Bastion from X-Men 97 Season 1 429 00:42:49,838 --> 00:42:52,449 Cassandra Nova from Deadpool and Wolverine. 430 00:42:57,154 --> 00:42:59,872 Death from Agatha All Along, season 1. 431 00:43:04,654 --> 00:43:06,731 Kingpin from Echo Season 1. 432 00:43:11,578 --> 00:43:18,342 Oh damn, this is a really good list. That's a hard choice to make. I guess I'm gonna go 433 00:43:18,362 --> 00:43:24,687 with Bastion from X-Men 97 because I think he was the most complex villain. And the winner 434 00:43:24,787 --> 00:43:35,746 is Bastion from X-Men 97 Season 1. Woohoo! Am I that predictable? Yes. Yeah, Bastion was 435 00:43:36,046 --> 00:43:43,149 an incredible villain for X-Men 97. Not only did he continue the themes of the X-Men animated 436 00:43:43,189 --> 00:43:49,012 series into this new season, but he also posed like a great, like modern threat to the team 437 00:43:49,412 --> 00:43:55,074 in this day and age that felt very in keeping with who the X-Men are. And he did a lot of 438 00:43:55,114 --> 00:43:59,796 damage in that show. You think about what happened on Genosha. He was a very effective villain. 439 00:44:00,276 --> 00:44:05,059 Absolutely. And the wrap up they did with him at the end. was so powerful in terms of like 440 00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:09,941 the story arc for Cyclops. It was such a great season of television, which is why we gave 441 00:44:09,981 --> 00:44:14,364 it five out of five stars when we reviewed the show. Right. He played a large part of that. 442 00:44:14,784 --> 00:44:20,587 Yeah, I forget the actor who did his voice, Theo James. Oh, yeah. He did a fantastic job 443 00:44:20,627 --> 00:44:24,569 as well. I loved that. That was great. Yeah, I hope he plays the character in live action 444 00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:29,952 if they ever bring Bastion into the live action MCU. The live action actors on your list weren't 445 00:44:29,992 --> 00:44:34,662 bad, terrible, like Aubrey Plaza as Death. That was a great twist. Yeah, and Kingpin was the 446 00:44:34,702 --> 00:44:40,584 best thing about Echo season one. And Cassandra Nova, of course, was just really interesting 447 00:44:40,604 --> 00:44:44,925 and pretty damn cool in Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah, very spunky. Well, let's move on to our 448 00:44:44,965 --> 00:44:50,907 next award, which is best hero of 2024. Of course, this is the opposite of the villain award, 449 00:44:51,267 --> 00:44:56,729 whereas the villains set the stakes. The heroes are there to overcome them in the story. Yeah, 450 00:44:56,749 --> 00:45:01,760 we like to give recognition to the heroes that inspire us. and provide the whole reasoning 451 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:08,269 that we watch these tales of morality play out. Starting off with the Marvel Award, the nominees 452 00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:13,697 for best Marvel hero are Cyclops from X-Men 97 Season 1. 453 00:45:18,414 --> 00:45:20,716 Deadpool from Deadpool and Wolverine. 454 00:45:25,378 --> 00:45:27,751 Venom from Venom the Last Dance. 455 00:45:32,546 --> 00:45:34,804 Wolverine from Deadpool and Wolverine. 456 00:45:39,638 --> 00:45:49,909 Holy crap. Wow. I think Cyclops had a really, really good arc, but so did Wolverine and Deadpool 457 00:45:49,930 --> 00:45:57,258 and Wolverine. So I'm gonna go with Wolverine. And the winner is Deadpool from Deadpool and 458 00:45:57,298 --> 00:46:03,496 Wolverine. Oh, controversial choice. Is it? No, I don't think so. I think if you remember 459 00:46:03,536 --> 00:46:10,342 the arc from Deadpool and Wolverine that Deadpool had, I think it was the most depth we got of 460 00:46:10,382 --> 00:46:14,965 the character in all of his film trilogy. You know, he started out with a really touching 461 00:46:15,025 --> 00:46:20,250 moment talking about how he wants to matter and, you know, getting rejected from the Avengers 462 00:46:20,370 --> 00:46:25,134 affected his entire life. He really grew as a character through the course of the film 463 00:46:25,454 --> 00:46:30,802 and was really pleased with his journey, as goofy as it sometimes may be. I think he really 464 00:46:30,842 --> 00:46:36,063 grew as a character and as a hero. I guess I kind of thought his arc was just an upgraded 465 00:46:36,103 --> 00:46:40,244 version of what we got in Deadpool 2, which you know is still a solid arc for the character. 466 00:46:41,024 --> 00:46:46,146 I would have given it maybe to Wolverine because of what that version of the character went 467 00:46:46,166 --> 00:46:51,767 through and what he learned from X-23 and everything like that. But I could totally see giving it 468 00:46:51,787 --> 00:46:56,929 to Deadpool as well. Honestly, all of the character arcs from all four of your nominees were solid. 469 00:46:57,329 --> 00:47:04,723 Yeah, yeah. He was a standout hero from that series. Venom, you know, the way that movie 470 00:47:04,783 --> 00:47:10,289 ended was very much in keeping with the heroic theme of sacrifice. So yeah, all these guys 471 00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:16,936 were great. Yeah. Great choices this year. Moving on to the DC award. The nominees for best DC 472 00:47:16,976 --> 00:47:21,961 hero are Batman from Batman caped Crusader season one. 473 00:47:26,766 --> 00:47:30,512 Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1. 474 00:47:35,234 --> 00:47:39,005 Kite Man, from Kite Man, Hell Yeah, Season 1. 475 00:47:43,782 --> 00:47:47,503 Superman from My Adventures with Superman Season 2. 476 00:47:52,470 --> 00:48:00,892 I have to say your lists are not up to scratch. You can go fuck yourself. The Marvel lists 477 00:48:00,912 --> 00:48:06,954 have been much more solid than these lists. I find it hard to pick from your list of nominees 478 00:48:07,074 --> 00:48:12,275 primarily because I don't see a good standout option. I'm gonna go with Batman from the Caped 479 00:48:12,315 --> 00:48:19,777 Crusader season one. And the winner is Superman from My Adventures with Superman season two. 480 00:48:20,237 --> 00:48:27,569 Sure, yeah, why not? I think on that way too. So I love my adventures with Superman as a 481 00:48:27,629 --> 00:48:34,673 show. I think they do a fantastic job reinventing the character for modern times. In season one, 482 00:48:34,773 --> 00:48:40,216 Superman's arc really revolved around who he was. And in the second season, it was more 483 00:48:40,276 --> 00:48:45,599 about where he comes from and what that means in regards to the relationships that he's developed 484 00:48:45,739 --> 00:48:50,201 on the show. I thought they did a fantastic job introducing characters like Supergirl and 485 00:48:50,241 --> 00:48:56,453 Brainiac. for Superman to interact with. And again, I just really like how heroic the character 486 00:48:56,813 --> 00:49:01,996 of Superman is in the show compared to some of the other heroes on my list, such as Batman, 487 00:49:02,256 --> 00:49:07,460 Harley Quinn, and Kite Man. Well, Superman is the quintessential hero, right? Portrayed correctly, 488 00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:12,363 he would always win this award. And I think My Adventures with Superman does just that. 489 00:49:12,403 --> 00:49:16,205 It's a fantastic show for sure. Yeah, this is actually the second year in a row that he's 490 00:49:16,265 --> 00:49:21,271 won this award. I was thinking of giving it to Batman, the caped crusader, because that 491 00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:26,873 was just as good of a show, I think, as my adventures with Superman season two. But Batman kind of 492 00:49:26,893 --> 00:49:32,255 played a second fiddle in that show to the city of Gotham itself. I would agree. Yeah. Like 493 00:49:32,315 --> 00:49:36,817 you want to keep Batman mysterious too, you know? Right. Exactly. That really helped with 494 00:49:36,837 --> 00:49:37,657 that show, actually. 495 00:49:45,070 --> 00:49:50,734 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. 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Now, this is one of my 503 00:50:36,705 --> 00:50:42,029 favorite awards to hand out because I like going back and thinking about the moments that really 504 00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:47,774 stood out to me from Marvel and DC projects. These are the occurrences on film and television 505 00:50:47,814 --> 00:50:54,260 that really got you up on your feet cheering or like just despondent emotionally. But these 506 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,383 are the moments that you remember for years to come. Yeah, the nominees for this award 507 00:50:58,423 --> 00:51:04,519 consist of the most impactful moments. from the past year. Let's start with the DC Award. 508 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:12,053 The nominees for best DC moment are Escape from Hell, Dead Boy Detectives, season one. 509 00:51:21,806 --> 00:51:30,876 Joker questions Gary Puddles from Joker Folly-a-doo. Was I the same old Joker that I always been? 510 00:51:33,139 --> 00:51:39,987 Oh, it's the Tugtelist yourself. Magical Armor Op from Suicide Squad, Isekai, season one. 511 00:51:46,830 --> 00:51:53,085 Get out of here! Oz and Victor's farewell from The Penguin, Season 1. 512 00:52:00,398 --> 00:52:05,300 I can't bring you with me this time. Alright now this list is impressive. For as much shit 513 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,442 I'm giving you about your other lists, I actually think that these are all standout moments. 514 00:52:09,602 --> 00:52:14,624 I don't think anything will stick with me as much as Oz and Victor's farewell though. So 515 00:52:14,684 --> 00:52:21,715 that's my guess for the win. The winner is... Oz and Victor's farewell from the Penguin season 516 00:52:21,875 --> 00:52:29,099 one. It has to be. Yeah. To me, this was hands down the most impactful moment from, I think, 517 00:52:29,339 --> 00:52:35,243 any DC show in recent memory. It was heartbreaking. You know, DC has had some pretty heartbreaking 518 00:52:35,443 --> 00:52:40,686 season finales. I think back to the Doom Patrol moment from that show's series finale. And 519 00:52:40,706 --> 00:52:46,069 that was pretty heartbreaking, too. Yeah, that Doom Patrol moment won a Brothers Award earlier. 520 00:52:46,669 --> 00:52:51,064 And I would have to say that This packed just the same amount of punch, which is surprising 521 00:52:51,525 --> 00:52:55,648 because with the Doom Patrol characters, we had been with them for several seasons. But 522 00:52:55,869 --> 00:53:00,353 when it comes to The Penguin, only having one season to establish its characters, it was 523 00:53:00,373 --> 00:53:05,658 just a better produced show overall, I would say, as much as I like The Doom Patrol. And 524 00:53:05,698 --> 00:53:11,543 it's something that'll stick with me for some time, particularly this moment, which is one 525 00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:16,467 of the reasons we gave the show 5 out of 5 stars. Yeah, I liked your other moments too, like 526 00:53:16,507 --> 00:53:21,230 the scene in Suicide Squad Isekai where they get their power up armor in the final episode. 527 00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:27,094 That was so much fun. That was a blast. Yeah, totally. Honestly, if this was like an award 528 00:53:27,134 --> 00:53:32,778 for the happiest moment out of all of the shows, that would get the win. The escape from Hell 529 00:53:32,818 --> 00:53:37,561 scene was also pretty powerful from Dead Boy Detectives. Right, yeah. And of course, Joker 530 00:53:37,601 --> 00:53:43,025 questioning Gary Puddles may have been the best part of Joker Folie a Deux. Great list, great 531 00:53:43,045 --> 00:53:48,178 list. Now I kind of feel like my list is a little bit shallow, but these are all stand-up moments 532 00:53:48,198 --> 00:53:54,424 too. Let's get into the Marvel Award. The nominees for Best Marvel Moment are... Deadpool Core 533 00:53:54,804 --> 00:53:56,065 from Deadpool and Wolverine. 534 00:54:05,944 --> 00:54:08,706 I am Uwatu from What If Season 3. 535 00:54:25,706 --> 00:54:27,835 Let's go, boy. Take her down! 536 00:54:32,014 --> 00:54:37,888 To me, my X-Men from X-Men 97 Season 1. To me, my X-Men. 537 00:54:45,682 --> 00:54:51,304 Oh, is that in reference to the Sentinel fight in episode one of the X-Men 97 show? Yes. OK, 538 00:54:51,344 --> 00:54:56,406 that's interesting to me. Honestly, I think the most impactful moment from X-Men 97 would 539 00:54:56,426 --> 00:55:02,729 have been what happened in Genosha. So already your list is flawed. I was looking for like 540 00:55:02,769 --> 00:55:08,751 quintessential moments, I guess. Gotcha. Well, it was nice just to see the X-Men come back, 541 00:55:08,931 --> 00:55:14,470 I suppose, after all these years. But of those options that you gave me of the nominees. I 542 00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:22,014 would say the Deadpool core is your choice. And the winner is Deadpool core from Deadpool 543 00:55:22,115 --> 00:55:27,098 and Wolverine. Of course, you know, it was such a fantastic moment. There were so many great 544 00:55:27,178 --> 00:55:31,801 climaxes in the third act of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which is I think why it got 545 00:55:31,861 --> 00:55:35,863 over a billion dollars. People just love this movie because you had the fight with, you know, 546 00:55:35,923 --> 00:55:40,710 blade electric gambit against Cassandra Nova's forces. followed up by the Deadpool fight, 547 00:55:40,750 --> 00:55:45,393 followed up by the sacrifice by Deadpool and Wolverine at the end. But the fight against 548 00:55:45,433 --> 00:55:52,156 the Deadpool core was not just musically powerful and heavy on the action and a visual effects 549 00:55:52,196 --> 00:55:58,180 tree. It was everything rolled into one. It was so much fun to watch. And I think that 550 00:55:58,420 --> 00:56:02,202 moment will stay with me for years to come as well. I know it will. Yeah, it was incredibly 551 00:56:02,322 --> 00:56:10,066 fun. It was two of four climaxes that happened while I was watching this movie. I don't know 552 00:56:10,087 --> 00:56:14,510 what the fourth one was, but I don't want to know. I don't know if you've seen What If Season 553 00:56:14,530 --> 00:56:19,154 3 yet, Jonathan, but I will... I haven't finished it. So I had no idea what the Watu reference 554 00:56:19,194 --> 00:56:24,698 was. The season ends on a bang. We'll get into it in our next episode when we review What 555 00:56:24,718 --> 00:56:31,044 If Season 3. The season's not fantastic, but the finale is pretty much everything you could 556 00:56:31,064 --> 00:56:36,168 hope for in a finale. Nice. That's good to hear. And of course, release of Symbiotes was another 557 00:56:36,188 --> 00:56:40,871 big action scene. It was really cool to see. the varying symbiotes that the movie introduced. 558 00:56:41,011 --> 00:56:45,374 That was just a whole lot of fun, too, in the same way that Deadpool core fight was. Yeah, 559 00:56:45,414 --> 00:56:49,457 it was all right. It was definitely not as good as Deadpool. So I think you had a solid choice 560 00:56:49,477 --> 00:56:56,002 there. Well, moving on to the next award. This is for the best actress of twenty four. Yeah, 561 00:56:56,042 --> 00:57:03,267 we love our actresses. Love me some actresses. It's always fun to give out acting awards, 562 00:57:03,307 --> 00:57:08,414 because in that sense, it feels like we're the Oscars, right? But. Yeah, the basis of this 563 00:57:08,454 --> 00:57:15,138 award is who we think gave the best performance in a Marvel or DC project this year. We're 564 00:57:15,458 --> 00:57:19,501 way better than the Oscars. Like those are not even relevant anymore. Yeah, if you win a Brothers 565 00:57:19,541 --> 00:57:24,704 Award, it means something. Like put it on your resume, right? 100%. Well, let's see what actress 566 00:57:24,744 --> 00:57:31,969 gets to do that. The nominees for best Marvel actress are Emma Corrin as Cassandra Nova from 567 00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:33,229 Deadpool and Wolverine. 568 00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:42,921 Catherine Hawn as Agatha Harkness from Agatha All Along Season 1 569 00:57:47,598 --> 00:57:52,305 Patti LuPone as Lilia Calderou from Agatha All Along Season 1. 570 00:57:57,074 --> 00:58:01,605 Sashir Zamata as Jennifer Cale from Agatha All Along, Season 1. 571 00:58:07,082 --> 00:58:11,624 Like all of your nominees basically came from Agatha. Interesting. Emma Corrin was from Deadpool 572 00:58:11,664 --> 00:58:18,768 and Wolverine. I said almost all. No, you didn't. I said basically all. I said something like 573 00:58:18,808 --> 00:58:26,252 that. Anyway, of the nominees, I'd probably say that you went with the star of Agatha all 574 00:58:26,292 --> 00:58:33,506 along, who was Catherine Hahn. And the winner is. Catherine Hawn as Agatha Harkness from 575 00:58:33,646 --> 00:58:38,908 Agatha All Along Season 1. I am killing it. You are crushing it, man. You are crushing 576 00:58:38,948 --> 00:58:44,189 it. Yeah, Agatha All Along had a stellar cast and really these nominees were just a testament 577 00:58:44,229 --> 00:58:50,071 to the fantastic actresses that they got for that show. You know, Patti LuPone and Sashir 578 00:58:50,091 --> 00:58:55,492 Zamata were playing minor characters but had major roles within the show and I was really 579 00:58:55,552 --> 00:59:00,658 impressed with the caliber of performances that we got in that series. But, you know, Catherine 580 00:59:00,678 --> 00:59:06,261 Hahn led the whole thing and I thought she stood up to the task. As a leading lady, she really 581 00:59:06,281 --> 00:59:10,743 impressed me and definitely went up a tier from, you know, just a supporting role in WandaVision. 582 00:59:11,203 --> 00:59:16,806 Yeah, she was fantastic. She had a lot of different roles to play, I guess you could say. Everything 583 00:59:16,866 --> 00:59:22,408 from, you know, dramatic to comedic to doing a musical number. It was probably an actress's 584 00:59:22,448 --> 00:59:27,163 dream role. Oh, for sure. And she crushed it. Yeah. Of course, Emma Corrin was also good 585 00:59:27,243 --> 00:59:30,766 in Deadpool and Wolverine. Jonathan, I guess I'm a little bit surprised that you're surprised 586 00:59:30,786 --> 00:59:34,990 by my list. I'm wondering who you would have added like Dakota Johnson from Madden Web. 587 00:59:35,010 --> 00:59:41,235 What would you have done? Probably not Dakota Johnson, but probably Sydney Sweeney. OK, OK. 588 00:59:42,496 --> 00:59:46,620 No, honestly, I'm actually surprised you went with Emma Corrin over Aubrey Plaza for death. 589 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,976 Aubrey Plaza was in consideration. but I'm still convinced that the character of Death was Aubrey 590 00:59:52,016 --> 00:59:57,660 Plaza just stumbling onto the set one day, acting like her normal self. Hahaha. She just is Death. 591 00:59:58,061 --> 01:00:03,165 Yeah. Gotcha. Well, great choice. I think Catherine Hahn definitely deserves this award. Moving 592 01:00:03,225 --> 01:00:12,692 on to DC, the nominees for best DC actress are Kristen Milioti as Sofia Falcone from The Penguin 593 01:00:12,912 --> 01:00:13,533 Season 1. 594 01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:23,985 Lady Gaga as Harleen Quinzel from Joker, Folly I Do. 595 01:00:28,878 --> 01:00:34,595 Jen Lyon as Esther Finch from Dead Boy Detectives Season 1. 596 01:00:39,342 --> 01:00:45,222 Cassius Nelson as Crystal Palace from Dead Boy Detectives, season one. 597 01:00:49,866 --> 01:00:54,609 Oh, that's a solid list. It's going to be in between, obviously, Sophia Falcone and Crystal 598 01:00:54,629 --> 01:01:00,793 Palace. But I think it's going to go to Kristen Milioti as Sophia Falcone. That's my guess. 599 01:01:00,813 --> 01:01:08,659 The winner is Kristen Milioti as Sophia Falcone from The Penguin season one. Yeah, honestly, 600 01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:14,864 to me, the choice was between Kristen Milioti and Lady Gaga. I thought Lady Gaga gave a great 601 01:01:14,884 --> 01:01:19,991 performance in the Joker Folly I do, even though. I hated her character and I hated the movie 602 01:01:20,331 --> 01:01:26,055 overall. Her performance was not one of the reasons why, but one of the reasons why I absolutely 603 01:01:26,155 --> 01:01:32,540 loved The Penguin was because of Kristen Milioti's performance as Sofia Falcone. You know, I gave 604 01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:37,803 her the best villain award in part because Kristen Milioti's performance was so impeccable. It 605 01:01:37,823 --> 01:01:43,147 really was. I hope that The Penguin Season 1 really does incredible things for her career 606 01:01:43,187 --> 01:01:48,742 because she deserves it. I've seen her in a few other projects and she's... just an incredibly 607 01:01:48,942 --> 01:01:53,103 capable actor, just so transformative. I don't know if I ever would have believed her as a 608 01:01:53,143 --> 01:01:59,085 villain until I saw it done and she was just so intimidating that it blew my mind. Yeah, 609 01:01:59,105 --> 01:02:04,747 the episode specifically where it goes into her origin, as it were, in Arkham, that hit 610 01:02:04,787 --> 01:02:09,808 really hard and I really hope she wins an Emmy just for the episode. Give her the Emmy! You're 611 01:02:09,828 --> 01:02:14,966 saying that for every award. Hey, the Penguin deserves it. Let's go ahead and move on to 612 01:02:15,126 --> 01:02:20,571 our next category, which is best actor. You know, this award is just like our actresses 613 01:02:20,591 --> 01:02:25,575 award, except the actors are hanging dong instead of the alternative. I don't know how else to 614 01:02:25,615 --> 01:02:31,680 put it. I've never actually heard that expression before, but it is accurate. Their actors recommending 615 01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:40,807 their performances. Let's do it up. The nominees for best DC actor are Colin Farrell as Oswald 616 01:02:40,827 --> 01:02:43,509 Cobb in The Penguin Season One. 617 01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:54,060 George Rexdrew as Edwin Payne in Dead Boy Detectives Season 1. 618 01:02:58,850 --> 01:03:04,750 Jaden Reverie as Charles Rowland in Dead Boy Detectives Season 1. 619 01:03:09,526 --> 01:03:14,815 Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck in Joker Folie a Deux. 620 01:03:19,618 --> 01:03:27,301 Great list, but it's gotta be Colin Farrell, final answer. The winner is Colin Farrell as 621 01:03:27,461 --> 01:03:34,924 Oswald Cobb in The Penguin, season one. So like my best actress list, it really came down to 622 01:03:34,944 --> 01:03:41,086 The Penguin and The Joker movies for who I thought were in contention for this win. I mean, as 623 01:03:41,146 --> 01:03:46,509 great as the Dead Boy Detective guys were, I mean, it's Colin Farrell and Joaquin Phoenix 624 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:51,263 giving master class performances. In the end though, I ended up giving it to Colin Farrell 625 01:03:51,543 --> 01:03:57,548 because I'm still unbelievably shocked that it's Colin Farrell! It does not look like him. 626 01:03:58,148 --> 01:04:03,852 And as I mentioned in our review, he gives a technical performance that plays like another 627 01:04:03,952 --> 01:04:09,356 actor giving a method performance. And to me that's just incredible. I don't even know how 628 01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:14,679 you would classify that, but you're absolutely right. Colin Farrell deserves all the Emmys 629 01:04:14,859 --> 01:04:20,062 and every single award for his performance as Oswald Cobb. and I hope he gets it. Give him 630 01:04:20,102 --> 01:04:26,486 the Emmy. Of course, Joaquin Phoenix returning as Arthur Fleck in a role that won him an Oscar 631 01:04:26,626 --> 01:04:32,529 the last go-around should not be overlooked. I just felt like we've seen it before. And 632 01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:37,092 though we've also seen Colin Farrell as the Penguin before, not like this and not to this 633 01:04:37,132 --> 01:04:41,334 depth. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we previously saw the character in the Batman movie, but 634 01:04:41,354 --> 01:04:45,096 the Penguin series was much more substantial. Let's go ahead and move on to the Marvel Award. 635 01:04:45,516 --> 01:04:52,025 The nominees for best Marvel actor are Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in Deadpool and Wolverine. 636 01:04:56,802 --> 01:05:01,062 Joe Locke as Wiccan in Agatha All Along Season 1 637 01:05:05,782 --> 01:05:09,181 Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool in Deadpool and Wolverine. 638 01:05:13,998 --> 01:05:18,354 Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock slash Venom in Venom the Last Dance. 639 01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:30,373 Wow, this is a solid list. Who to choose? I want to go with Hugh Jackman, but last time 640 01:05:30,393 --> 01:05:35,676 I did that, you gave it to Deadpool. So you might choose Ryan Reynolds, but I'm going to 641 01:05:35,696 --> 01:05:42,220 stick with my gut and go with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine as my guess. And the winner is Hugh 642 01:05:42,260 --> 01:05:48,683 Jackman as Wolverine in Deadpool and Wolverine. You son of a bitch. Woohoo! It's like you could 643 01:05:48,723 --> 01:05:54,314 read my mind or something. It's not cool. Stop doing that. It's weird. Yeah, Hugh Jackman 644 01:05:54,354 --> 01:05:59,418 as Wolverine just when he thought that the guy couldn't bring anything more to a character 645 01:05:59,458 --> 01:06:05,383 that he had already spent over two decades playing He did and yeah his performance in the movie 646 01:06:05,423 --> 01:06:11,448 I wouldn't say is quite at the level as What he did in the Logan film, but you know he wasn't 647 01:06:11,468 --> 01:06:15,391 the main star of this movie, and he had less screen time I still thought his performance 648 01:06:15,411 --> 01:06:21,147 was incredible going from a down-and-out Wolverine you know, severely depressed, giving a really 649 01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:26,770 emotional performance when he admits as to the reason why he's depressed. He conveyed anger 650 01:06:27,130 --> 01:06:31,572 in a way that we haven't quite seen from the character before, and he was a great straight 651 01:06:31,592 --> 01:06:37,336 man to Deadpool's Wisecracking Idiot as well. Yeah, he did the humor great, he did the drama 652 01:06:37,636 --> 01:06:44,840 fantastically. The scene between him and X-23 at the campfire alone gives him this award, 653 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:51,303 I feel. Give him the Emmy. There's no way he's winning an Oscar for this role. Does Hugh Jackman 654 01:06:51,343 --> 01:06:58,227 even have an Oscar yet? No, he was nominated for Les Mis, but did not win. That is a travesty. 655 01:06:58,267 --> 01:07:03,931 The guy deserves an Oscar. He's definitely not gonna get it for this movie, but someday, hopefully. 656 01:07:04,311 --> 01:07:08,534 He should have got it for Logan. Yeah, he should have been nominated for Logan. That's why I 657 01:07:08,554 --> 01:07:13,277 say the Oscars are irrelevant. Yeah, Brothers Awards, way better. Well, let's move into our 658 01:07:13,317 --> 01:07:19,944 penultimate category. the best series or special of 2024. Yeah, we live in times now where a 659 01:07:19,984 --> 01:07:25,087 lot more media is being consumed at home as opposed to on the big screen in theaters. So 660 01:07:25,207 --> 01:07:29,870 this award, I think, gets more and more important every year since we started this podcast. Yeah, 661 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:36,433 this includes television series as well as one of specials. We actually didn't have any specials 662 01:07:36,774 --> 01:07:43,077 this year. So this is really just the series category in 2024. Yeah. And Marvel had some 663 01:07:43,137 --> 01:07:49,653 doozies, man. Let me break down those nominees. The nominees for best Marvel series or special 664 01:07:50,014 --> 01:07:52,821 are Agatha All Along, season 1. 665 01:07:57,610 --> 01:07:59,227 Hit Monkey Season 2. 666 01:08:04,066 --> 01:08:05,635 What if season 3? 667 01:08:10,734 --> 01:08:12,827 X-Men 97 Season 1 668 01:08:17,514 --> 01:08:26,797 Oh, this is hands down X-Men 97 season one. And the winner is. X-Men 97 season one. Of 669 01:08:26,837 --> 01:08:31,640 course. Yeah, that's right. I mean, we reviewed the show and gave it five stars. I mentioned 670 01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:36,902 at the time that it was the quintessential X-Men experience watching this season, and I still 671 01:08:36,922 --> 01:08:43,164 feel the same way. The MCU has a very difficult time ahead of itself in adapting the X-Men 672 01:08:43,605 --> 01:08:49,742 as well as the X-Men 97 season one was. Yeah, not only did it have that nostalgic edge to 673 01:08:49,822 --> 01:08:55,424 it, but also improved animation wise upon what we remember seeing on Saturday mornings and 674 01:08:55,464 --> 01:09:01,346 brought an even more mature slant to it than I thought it was even capable of. Yeah, I don't 675 01:09:01,406 --> 01:09:06,687 even think you need the nostalgia factor to enjoy X-Men 97. It certainly helps, but I think 676 01:09:06,727 --> 01:09:12,469 it stands alone even for fans who are new to the show. I am super pumped for whatever they 677 01:09:12,509 --> 01:09:17,698 decide to do with that franchise next. I know we're going to and hopefully it holds up to 678 01:09:17,738 --> 01:09:22,240 season one. If it does, it'll probably go down in history as the greatest animated superhero 679 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,622 series of all time. Just the way it portrayed the action, the way the characters were written 680 01:09:27,702 --> 01:09:33,525 so true to their comic book counterparts, the themes that it addressed, it was all done flawlessly. 681 01:09:33,545 --> 01:09:39,547 It was executed so perfectly. Give that show an Emmy. For real, it was terrific. We gave 682 01:09:39,587 --> 01:09:44,929 both Hit Monkey season two and Agatha all along four and a half stars. It was a great year. 683 01:09:45,230 --> 01:09:51,013 great year for Marvel Television and also for DC Television. So let me get into the DC Award. 684 01:09:51,373 --> 01:09:58,877 The nominees for best DC series or special are Batman Caped Crusader season one. 685 01:10:03,598 --> 01:10:05,823 Dead Boy Detectives, season one. 686 01:10:10,562 --> 01:10:13,257 My Adventures with Superman, Season 2. 687 01:10:18,338 --> 01:10:19,967 Penguin, season one. 688 01:10:24,758 --> 01:10:29,623 Oh geez, I wonder what it's gonna be. That was a joke. Obviously Penguin season one, final 689 01:10:29,683 --> 01:10:37,151 answer. The winner is Batman, Caped Crusader. Fuck off. It was absolutely The Penguin Season 690 01:10:37,271 --> 01:10:43,074 1. A fantastic show and a year of incredible DC shows. I also wanted to include Suicide 691 01:10:43,114 --> 01:10:47,997 Squad Isekai on my list. Did I have room for it? Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, that was fantastic. 692 01:10:48,017 --> 01:10:51,899 I'm really sad that Dead Boy Detectives got cancelled. I would have loved to have seen 693 01:10:51,939 --> 01:10:56,582 what they could have done in another season of that show. But overall, I think the show 694 01:10:56,602 --> 01:11:01,685 that gets me most excited for what's coming up next is The Penguin Season 1. Not only was 695 01:11:01,845 --> 01:11:07,256 the show incredible, but I also think it was a tremendous setup for what's ever coming next 696 01:11:07,576 --> 01:11:12,300 in Matt Reeves, the Batman universe. Rumors are that we are going to get a Penguin Season 697 01:11:12,340 --> 01:11:17,343 2, I really hope we do. We'll see if that becomes official down the road. I mean, as we said 698 01:11:17,383 --> 01:11:25,028 in the review, the Penguin Season 1 was not just S-tier DC television, it was S-tier television 699 01:11:25,128 --> 01:11:30,992 in general. Oh yeah, it's classic HBO Sunday night television. It was fantastic. I know 700 01:11:31,032 --> 01:11:36,236 a lot of people who watch the show. who really aren't into the whole superhero genre, and 701 01:11:36,256 --> 01:11:40,660 they loved it. I loved it, how could you not? I think this is the first year we've done this 702 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:47,005 show that we awarded two television projects, five stars, from both Marvel and DC. Yeah, 703 01:11:47,025 --> 01:11:51,028 you might be right. And as I mentioned earlier, this category has gotten bigger and bigger 704 01:11:51,208 --> 01:11:56,052 every year since we started doing this podcast. Oh yeah, and this year specifically for DC, 705 01:11:56,512 --> 01:12:03,614 the shows vastly outperformed the feature films. But speaking of feature films, Let's move on 706 01:12:03,654 --> 01:12:11,096 to our final award, best motion picture of 2024. Yeah, for as big as the television category 707 01:12:11,136 --> 01:12:16,397 is getting, there's still nothing quite like seeing a film in the big screen in the theater. 708 01:12:17,117 --> 01:12:22,539 It's movie magic. You know, I will say that for both Marvel and DC, the theatrical offerings 709 01:12:22,579 --> 01:12:28,420 were kind of slim pickings. DC only released one theatrical film in Joker, Fallia, Do and 710 01:12:28,601 --> 01:12:34,115 Marvel had three Sony Spider-Man movies come out this year. So. Um, not our best showing 711 01:12:34,195 --> 01:12:40,599 in 2024, but DC also had a lot of direct to video films that came out this year. And so 712 01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:44,701 yeah, we're going to find out which one wins. I think we all know what the Marvel winner 713 01:12:44,741 --> 01:12:49,004 is going to be, but I'm really interested in seeing who the DC nominees are. Well let's 714 01:12:49,044 --> 01:12:57,009 find out. The nominees for best DC motion picture are Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths, 715 01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:57,749 part one. 716 01:13:02,614 --> 01:13:06,072 Justice League, Crisis on Infinite Earths, part two. 717 01:13:10,902 --> 01:13:12,572 Watchmen, chapter one. 718 01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:18,825 Watchmen, chapter two. 719 01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:28,139 Shut up, I hate you! 720 01:13:32,342 --> 01:13:36,466 I'm not surprised that JokerFollyIdo did not make your list of nominees. Oh, absolutely 721 01:13:36,486 --> 01:13:44,133 not. That is not a great list at all. Geez, Watchmen Chapter 2, I guess. And the winner 722 01:13:44,253 --> 01:13:51,607 is... Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 1 Oh yeah that's okay yeah the obvious 723 01:13:51,667 --> 01:13:57,949 answer there that was better than Watchmen Chapter 2 yeah Yeah so Watchmen Chapters 1 and 2 if 724 01:13:57,969 --> 01:14:02,790 you listen to our reviews you know I didn't love them I thought they were largely redundant 725 01:14:02,951 --> 01:14:08,872 and inferior to the adaptation that we received from Zack Snyder they're not bad they're actually 726 01:14:08,892 --> 01:14:13,830 really faithful adaptations but of all of the films that came out this year The one that 727 01:14:13,930 --> 01:14:19,611 I thought was absolutely the best, far and away, was Crisis on Infinite Earth's part one. It 728 01:14:19,631 --> 01:14:24,873 was actually the first film to come out this year. Yeah, part two was weaker than part one, 729 01:14:24,913 --> 01:14:29,554 and then of course part three dropped the ball on that trilogy of films completely. But part 730 01:14:29,654 --> 01:14:34,715 one showed a lot of promise, especially with its non-linear narrative structure. You know, 731 01:14:34,755 --> 01:14:39,517 it was really fascinating to see how that movie played out. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the story 732 01:14:39,557 --> 01:14:45,651 of The Flash and his involvement with the Mezzo and the whole crisis event that was going on 733 01:14:45,971 --> 01:14:51,774 was intermixed with a larger story that was being told that involved many characters from 734 01:14:51,834 --> 01:14:57,978 across DC's multiverse, particularly the crime syndicate. It was told in a very interesting 735 01:14:58,058 --> 01:15:03,741 way that was reminiscent of some other projects, particularly the time traveler's wife. It was 736 01:15:03,761 --> 01:15:09,044 a really strong setup for what I thought the subsequent two films were going to try and 737 01:15:09,144 --> 01:15:14,278 recapture the magic of, but that didn't quite happen. Yeah, it was a shame considering how 738 01:15:14,318 --> 01:15:19,979 big of a swing DC animation took with part one and just couldn't follow through with. Right. 739 01:15:19,999 --> 01:15:25,221 When the first movie came out, we were under the impression that this was going to be a 740 01:15:25,281 --> 01:15:30,222 heartbreaking finale to the tomorrowverse that didn't end up being the case, but the movie 741 01:15:30,242 --> 01:15:35,384 is still good. I think you're gonna get flack for this award, but you shouldn't because, 742 01:15:35,584 --> 01:15:39,885 yeah, it's the most deserving out of all of DC's films this year. I do feel bad for you. 743 01:15:40,325 --> 01:15:46,910 Yeah, me too. Thank you. Let's get on to the Marvel Award. The nominees for best Marvel 744 01:15:46,971 --> 01:15:49,793 picture are Deadpool and Wolverine. 745 01:15:54,542 --> 01:15:55,416 Kraven the Hunter. 746 01:16:00,194 --> 01:16:00,860 Madam Webb. 747 01:16:05,782 --> 01:16:07,106 Venom The Last Dance 748 01:16:11,946 --> 01:16:20,173 Let me guess. Madame Web. Nope, just kidding. And the winner is Deadpool and Wolverine. Obviously. 749 01:16:20,893 --> 01:16:26,398 I mean, you have an MCU film going up against three Sony films. I am totally shocked that 750 01:16:26,458 --> 01:16:31,683 Sony released three Spider-Man Universe films this year. It was a major faux pas on their 751 01:16:31,723 --> 01:16:36,327 part and they're gonna be paying for that big time. Hopefully it results in the best case 752 01:16:36,347 --> 01:16:41,010 scenario of Marvel getting the rights back to Spider-Man because... The only decent film 753 01:16:41,190 --> 01:16:45,994 out of the three Sony offerings this year was Venom The Last Dance, and that even paled in 754 01:16:46,014 --> 01:16:52,059 comparison to the awesomeness that was Deadpool and Wolverine. The three Sony Spider-Man movies 755 01:16:52,099 --> 01:16:58,324 this year were a joke. Deadpool and Wolverine was, in my opinion, the best Deadpool movie 756 01:16:58,584 --> 01:17:04,449 that came out. So yeah, I see how this easily gets the win. 2024 was just... Ugh! I'm so 757 01:17:04,469 --> 01:17:08,399 glad it's over. Yeah, it'll be good to put this year behind us. And there's a lot of great 758 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:13,863 projects to look forward to in 2025. At least the MCU will be releasing more than one movie 759 01:17:13,883 --> 01:17:19,587 in 2025. That's right. You guys are getting Captain America, Brave New World and Thunderbolts. 760 01:17:19,787 --> 01:17:24,971 And the Fantastic Four in July. Ah, geez. That's right. I totally forgot about that. We're also 761 01:17:24,991 --> 01:17:28,974 getting a lot of great Disney Plus television content, too. We were supposed to be getting 762 01:17:29,134 --> 01:17:35,546 a Constantine 2 film next year, but that got scrapped, I believe. So we're only getting 763 01:17:35,646 --> 01:17:41,211 Superman. It's another year where DC only gets one theatrical release. But you guys will also 764 01:17:41,231 --> 01:17:46,715 be getting a few direct to video animated films like Batman Ninja versus the Yakuza League. 765 01:17:48,076 --> 01:17:53,621 Aztec Batman. All the Batman movies, I guess. Basically, actually, just those three movies 766 01:17:53,661 --> 01:17:59,005 have been announced so far. If there are other animated projects in the works, we have yet 767 01:17:59,046 --> 01:18:05,284 to hear about them. Well, just another reason to hope that the Superman movie is good. It 768 01:18:05,304 --> 01:18:10,172 has to be. I think it will be. But that does it for the awards show this evening guys. Be 769 01:18:10,192 --> 01:18:15,021 sure to reach out to us and let us know who you think the winners in these categories could 770 01:18:15,041 --> 01:18:22,388 have been. AG9K, help close us out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic Duel. Visit the show's 771 01:18:22,428 --> 01:18:28,333 website at dynamicDuel.com and follow us on Instagram at dynamicDuelpodcast. You can support 772 01:18:28,353 --> 01:18:34,078 the show on Patreon at patreon.com slash dynamicDuel and joining a tier that works for you or by 773 01:18:34,138 --> 01:18:40,303 rating and reviewing Dynamic Duel on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser, or on our website. Don't 774 01:18:40,323 --> 01:18:44,867 forget to listen to the other shows in the DynaMic podcast network, including Max Destruction, 775 01:18:45,208 --> 01:18:52,336 Senjo World, and Console Combat. In our next episode, the first episode of 2025, we are 776 01:18:52,356 --> 01:19:00,343 going to be reviewing What If Season 3. I think I'm only on episode 3 of that series. Need 777 01:19:00,363 --> 01:19:06,108 to catch up. But you saying that it ends with a bang has me kind of excited because I'm not 778 01:19:06,128 --> 01:19:10,772 too thrilled with what I'm seeing so far. Thank you guys so much for listening to us in 2024, 779 01:19:11,793 --> 01:19:16,537 and we hope you continue this journey with us in 2025. Big thanks to our executive producers. 780 01:19:16,878 --> 01:19:21,261 Ken Johnson, John Sturawski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcombe, Mickey Mathanghian, Brandon 781 01:19:21,301 --> 01:19:26,285 Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yaiten, Austin Wiselowski, A.J. Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, 782 01:19:26,425 --> 01:19:31,870 Gil Camacho, Adam Spies, Andrew Shunk, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Josh 783 01:19:31,930 --> 01:19:37,474 Leiner, Mike Williams, and Oscar Galvez for helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk 784 01:19:37,514 --> 01:19:43,819 to you guys next week. Up, up, and away, true believers. My 2025 New Year's Resolution. World 785 01:19:43,899 --> 01:19:44,440 domination.