1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,972 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,906 --> 00:00:29,649 Welcome to the dynamic duel podcast a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:35,714 the superiority between Marvel and DC By comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations 4 00:00:36,454 --> 00:00:42,219 I'm marvelous Joe and I'm his twin brother Johnny DC and in this episode we're gonna find out 5 00:00:42,379 --> 00:00:51,345 who would win in a fight between Morgan Le Fay and Cersei being a Greek mythological figure 6 00:00:51,666 --> 00:00:56,788 and Morgan Le Fay being an Arthurian legend character. Right, and Cersei of course is a 7 00:00:56,848 --> 00:01:01,710 Wonder Woman villain. Morgan and Le Fay is I think an Avengers villain, is that right? Well, 8 00:01:01,830 --> 00:01:06,472 she's an Avengers villain, she's a Black Knight villain, she's also a Doctor Strange villain. 9 00:01:06,812 --> 00:01:12,935 She's a general Marvel villain, and she's pretty powerful, so I'm pretty sure that Cersei is 10 00:01:12,955 --> 00:01:19,597 going down. So what you're saying is she's like the Marvel villain village bicycle? Sure, sure, 11 00:01:19,637 --> 00:01:24,535 whatever. I mean, if you're familiar with Arthurian legend, you might not disagree with that statement. 12 00:01:25,076 --> 00:01:29,317 Sweet! Can't wait for this match! Before that, we're going to get into the latest comic book 13 00:01:29,357 --> 00:01:34,900 movie news of which we only have one news item this week, and that is that Ulrich Thompson 14 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:40,982 is going to play Sinestro in the HBO Lantern series. Who the hell is that guy? We'll find 15 00:01:41,042 --> 00:01:45,084 out later on. As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free 16 00:01:45,104 --> 00:01:50,069 to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Guys, our artificially 17 00:01:50,090 --> 00:01:57,342 intelligent Duel simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. Why 18 00:01:57,402 --> 00:02:01,803 hello there, do you want even more from this podcast? Then become a part of the dynamic 19 00:02:01,843 --> 00:02:06,886 Duel community on Patreon, where you can choose from three tiers. The dynamic two-oh tier gives 20 00:02:06,906 --> 00:02:11,828 you access to our Discord chat server. The fantastic four tier gives you two bonus episodes each 21 00:02:11,888 --> 00:02:17,426 month, and the X-Force tier makes you an executive producer of this show. Lastly, The Diner Mike 22 00:02:17,466 --> 00:02:22,547 podcast network tier lets you create your own podcast using this Monte Carlo simulator. 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On the Senjoh World 30 00:03:02,145 --> 00:03:07,149 podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga 31 00:03:07,209 --> 00:03:12,072 characters. This week, Zach's finding out who would win in a battle between Sung-Jin Woo 32 00:03:12,212 --> 00:03:19,316 of Solo Leveling and Sid Kaganu of The Eminence in Shadow. And sorry if I butchered those names. 33 00:03:19,716 --> 00:03:24,759 And on the Konsole Kombat podcast, hosts John and Dean simulate battles between popular video 34 00:03:24,799 --> 00:03:28,861 game characters. In yesterday's episode, they found out who would win in a fight between 35 00:03:28,961 --> 00:03:35,905 Zangief from Street Fighter and Wolf from Virtua Fighter. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click 36 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:41,273 the link in our show notes. to listen to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. 37 00:03:41,753 --> 00:03:48,579 But with that out of the way, quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award that Marvel used 38 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:54,084 to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award that we post 39 00:03:54,124 --> 00:03:59,248 on Instagram for the person we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last 40 00:03:59,288 --> 00:04:06,070 week, we asked you guys, what Marvel or DC television series are you most looking forward to? in 41 00:04:06,110 --> 00:04:12,153 2025. And we got a number of answers, but we have three honorable mentions to go through 42 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:18,456 as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Michael Williams, who said, 43 00:04:19,037 --> 00:04:24,940 But Marvel TV show I'm looking forward to is Wonder Man. I know that they are fictional 44 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:33,364 characters and I'm not a big fan of gender swapping or race swapping, but that's the world we live 45 00:04:33,384 --> 00:04:40,938 in. So it'd be interesting to see. how they're going to do these characters, backstory, change 46 00:04:40,978 --> 00:04:47,663 it up, and introduce them into the Marvel Universe. Yeah, I feel like Wonder Man is the Marvel 47 00:04:47,703 --> 00:04:52,747 project that we know the least about currently, probably because it's not coming out until 48 00:04:52,767 --> 00:05:00,674 the end of 2025, but it has a great cast in Yaya Abdul-Mateen II, who has had a number 49 00:05:00,754 --> 00:05:06,742 of comic book roles under his belt, and also like from the vague, preview of sorts that 50 00:05:06,762 --> 00:05:13,988 we got from the last D23 event. It looks fairly interesting. It focuses heavily on the Hollywood 51 00:05:14,008 --> 00:05:20,832 system, but Michael Williams as a superhero in Marvel is an actor and taking that route 52 00:05:20,913 --> 00:05:25,196 is something that we haven't seen before. So at the very least, it's gonna give us something 53 00:05:25,296 --> 00:05:31,100 new. I'm excited just to get a Wonder Man series. I've never liked the name Wonder Man because 54 00:05:31,140 --> 00:05:36,868 it's just way too close to Wonder Woman. But the character otherwise is pretty cool. Absolutely. 55 00:05:37,089 --> 00:05:41,032 Yeah, if you guys want to learn more about Wonder Man, listen to our duel episode where we pit 56 00:05:41,072 --> 00:05:46,577 him against Captain Adam. He's a great character. Thanks, Michael Williams. Our next honorable 57 00:05:46,657 --> 00:05:54,463 mention goes to Lee Tapscott, who said, Hi, this is Lee Tapscott. What Marvel or DC show 58 00:05:54,523 --> 00:06:01,729 am I most looking forward to? Marvel zombies. In this show, I'm hoping that they follow Spider-Man. 59 00:06:02,654 --> 00:06:10,418 as he is traumatized by killing his family and being the hero that he once was. Will he overcome 60 00:06:10,798 --> 00:06:19,723 the constant hunger and keep killing or will he find a way to stop the zombies? Dude, same. 61 00:06:20,123 --> 00:06:25,186 And if you've read the Marvel zombies comic books and followed the Spider-Man arc as far 62 00:06:25,226 --> 00:06:32,109 as that goes, it's truly fascinating, especially like when he eats Sandman. It's kind of disturbing. 63 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:37,431 I don't know if the Marvel Zombies television show will go that route, but there's definitely 64 00:06:37,531 --> 00:06:43,192 a lot of interesting areas to explore when it comes to Spider-Man and the Marvel Zombies. 65 00:06:43,253 --> 00:06:48,774 Like is he gonna eat Aunt May or Mary Jane and all that stuff? We'll see if it follows the 66 00:06:48,814 --> 00:06:53,955 comic books by watching the show when it comes out close to Halloween this year. Yeah, we 67 00:06:53,996 --> 00:07:00,917 broke down the storyline of Marvel Zombies in our Deceased vs. Marvel Zombies episode. So... 68 00:07:01,514 --> 00:07:05,977 Don't listen to that if you don't want to be spoiled as to what happens or could happen 69 00:07:06,317 --> 00:07:12,381 on the show. That was a fun episode. Thank you, Lee. Our final honorable mention goes to McGee 70 00:07:12,401 --> 00:07:17,745 Mathengian, who said, Hey, what's up, guys? This is McGee. And the show I'm looking forward 71 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:22,728 to the most this year is My Adventures with Superman Season 3. Now, I know it hasn't been 72 00:07:22,768 --> 00:07:27,391 confirmed or anything, but hopefully we get it this year. Me and my girlfriend have been 73 00:07:27,411 --> 00:07:33,374 watching it. We actually just finished. like I've already seen it but I was watching it 74 00:07:33,414 --> 00:07:38,537 with her so it was her first time watching it season two like season one and two um a couple 75 00:07:38,557 --> 00:07:43,138 of weeks ago and she loved it and so it's kind of like our show now so my adventures with 76 00:07:43,158 --> 00:07:48,441 Superman is probably one of the best modern adaptations of the character of Superman to 77 00:07:48,561 --> 00:07:54,923 ever come out yeah totally I have yet to hear anyone say that they dislike this series even 78 00:07:54,983 --> 00:08:01,418 people who don't like the character of Superman seem to like this series which makes me Superman 79 00:08:01,618 --> 00:08:06,682 is DC's flagship character. And if there's one character you need to get right, it's Superman. 80 00:08:07,102 --> 00:08:12,706 Yeah, hopefully James Gunn's iteration of Superman in his live action movie coming out this summer 81 00:08:13,286 --> 00:08:19,511 matches the quality of the character that is portrayed in this series. It needs to. And 82 00:08:19,551 --> 00:08:25,695 hopefully Miggi could go see that movie with his girlfriend who is totally real. Ha ha ha. 83 00:08:25,715 --> 00:08:30,879 But special thanks to Daniel Alonso, Jess and Betty. Mason Thompson and Travis Herndon for 84 00:08:30,919 --> 00:08:36,263 calling in with their answer this week. But the winner of this week's no prize is Jonathan 85 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:42,367 and not Johnny DC, but a different Jonathan. He said, Hey, my name is John and my most anticipated 86 00:08:42,407 --> 00:08:48,251 show for 2025 is obviously Daredevil for obvious reasons. But Peacemaker season two is going 87 00:08:48,271 --> 00:08:52,974 to be a close second because that show is awesome. And Creature Commando season two would have 88 00:08:52,994 --> 00:08:57,437 been there too. But there's no way they can crank out a season two this year. But those 89 00:08:57,457 --> 00:09:03,887 are my Most anticipated picks. Shout out Peacemaker Season Two for sure. All right, Jonathan, it 90 00:09:03,907 --> 00:09:12,215 comes down to this. What series is gonna be better in 2025? Daredevil Born Again or Peacemaker 91 00:09:12,235 --> 00:09:19,822 Season Two? Peacemaker Season Two. Oh, that's the wrong answer. The correct answer was Daredevil 92 00:09:19,842 --> 00:09:27,071 Born Again. Sorry. Try again next time. I do think Daredevil Born Again is going to be a 93 00:09:27,111 --> 00:09:31,994 fantastic show. Just based on the trailer, it looks like it's going to be as good as the 94 00:09:32,474 --> 00:09:37,237 seasons that Netflix put out. At least I'm hoping that's the case. I'm also really looking forward 95 00:09:37,257 --> 00:09:42,660 to Peacemaker Season 2 as well. Although I have to say, it's not my most anticipated series 96 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:49,043 of this year from DC. That would probably be going to Sandman Season 2 if that comes out 97 00:09:49,103 --> 00:09:54,470 this year. It may not. Yeah. That whole Neil Gaiman thing is just kind of a... Shit show. 98 00:09:54,830 --> 00:10:02,475 Yeah, it's friggin' really weird. But no, I love Peacemaker season one, and Peacemaker 99 00:10:02,515 --> 00:10:07,418 season two is definitely high on my list of shows this year. So congrats to Jonathan for 100 00:10:07,458 --> 00:10:11,981 winning this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay 101 00:10:12,001 --> 00:10:16,264 tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. But now 102 00:10:16,304 --> 00:10:18,365 that that's done, on to the news. 103 00:10:23,914 --> 00:10:31,337 Alright, last week Deadline confirmed that Ulrich Thompson has been cast as Sinestro for the 104 00:10:31,417 --> 00:10:39,520 upcoming HBO series, Lanterns. This series of course is set in James Gunn's DCU and it stars 105 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:47,523 Aaron Pierre as Jon Stewart and Kyle Chandler as Hal Jordan. Sinestro of course is a major 106 00:10:47,644 --> 00:10:53,810 villain figure in Green Lantern mythology, although I'm assuming that by the start of this series, 107 00:10:54,071 --> 00:11:01,316 he will still be a Green Lantern. I have no idea who Ulrich Thompson is. Apparently he 108 00:11:01,356 --> 00:11:07,680 has been in series like Banshee for Cinemax. He also had a recurring role on The Blacklist 109 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:14,425 that aired on NBC for a time, as well as counterpart HBO's The Young Pope. He's a Scandinavian actor. 110 00:11:14,845 --> 00:11:18,868 Yeah, I've never seen a guy with so prominent a filmography whom I've never heard of. He 111 00:11:18,888 --> 00:11:25,152 has a good look though for... Sinestro, so I'm hoping he does well. Yeah, looks wise, he looks 112 00:11:25,392 --> 00:11:31,555 nothing like Mark Strong, who I thought nailed the look of the character of Sinestro, if not 113 00:11:31,595 --> 00:11:38,019 the behavior in the infamous Green Lantern film. I don't know, this guy, it just doesn't say 114 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:44,182 Sinestro to me personally. It says maybe like Hitler, who the character of Sinestro was based 115 00:11:44,322 --> 00:11:50,494 on, just like comb his hair to the side and give him like a mustache. Boom. Sure. I think 116 00:11:50,514 --> 00:11:54,938 that's what they're going for in this casting. Yeah, I think it'll be interesting how they 117 00:11:54,998 --> 00:11:59,502 treat the character of Sinestro in this show if he starts off as a Green Lantern and then 118 00:11:59,522 --> 00:12:06,288 we see that transition into his more villainous persona. It always struck me as odd that it's 119 00:12:06,328 --> 00:12:11,412 surprising that a character with the name of Sinestro turns evil. So I wonder how they're 120 00:12:11,432 --> 00:12:16,677 going to play that off in this series because if the actors from Earth aren't like, wait, 121 00:12:16,757 --> 00:12:23,388 this guy... Just say his name is Sinestro. They have to say something about it because otherwise 122 00:12:23,428 --> 00:12:27,489 it's just too awkward. There's some things you can get away with in the comics that you can't 123 00:12:27,529 --> 00:12:32,571 get away with on screen. I'm sure the guy is a terrific actor. Again, I don't know anything 124 00:12:32,611 --> 00:12:38,673 about him. But speaking of great villain actors, that brings us to our question of the week. 125 00:12:43,254 --> 00:12:50,537 Which actor has given the best performance in a villain role for a Marvel or DC series? Who's 126 00:12:50,577 --> 00:12:55,159 your favorite villain in a television show for Marvel or DC basically? Record your answer 127 00:12:55,199 --> 00:12:59,781 at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the 128 00:12:59,841 --> 00:13:04,463 screen which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long 129 00:13:04,763 --> 00:13:08,805 and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our 130 00:13:08,845 --> 00:13:13,830 favorite answer. and award that person a dynamic duel no prize that we'll post to Instagram. 131 00:13:14,211 --> 00:13:16,917 Be sure to answer before February 1st. 132 00:13:24,226 --> 00:13:27,928 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and get into 133 00:13:27,988 --> 00:13:34,713 our main event where we find out who would win in a fight between the mythological DC character 134 00:13:35,354 --> 00:13:40,377 of Cersei versus the Arthurian legend character, Morgan Le Fay. 135 00:13:55,626 --> 00:14:01,608 Alright, Cersei versus Morgan Le Fay. This episode is coming off of Creature Commando Season 1, 136 00:14:01,688 --> 00:14:07,911 in which Cersei played a minor role, but she's a prominent Wonder Woman villain, so it was 137 00:14:07,951 --> 00:14:13,733 important, I think, to get her in a duel against one of Marvel's most preeminent sorceress villainesses, 138 00:14:13,893 --> 00:14:20,316 Morgan Le Fay. Was Morgan Le Fay in that one Renaissance what-if episode? Oh, what-if 1602? 139 00:14:22,117 --> 00:14:30,359 She was not. But Morgan Le Fay has played a prominent live action role in the Runaway season 140 00:14:30,379 --> 00:14:36,064 three, where she was played actually by Elizabeth Hurley. So she's kind of a big deal. Oh, Elizabeth 141 00:14:36,104 --> 00:14:42,449 Hurley, huh? Yeah. Cersei would be so lucky. I am not even gonna debate you on that, because 142 00:14:42,789 --> 00:14:49,195 I agree. Yeah, Cersei was pretty cool in Creature Commando season one. I really hope though that 143 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:55,771 she eventually plays a role as the primary villain. of a Wonder Woman live action movie. Well I'm 144 00:14:55,811 --> 00:15:00,675 hoping that she's going to pop up in the Paradise Lost television series that was announced for 145 00:15:00,735 --> 00:15:05,498 the DCU about the island of the Mascara and the Amazons. Yeah, it would make sense for 146 00:15:05,518 --> 00:15:10,942 her character to show up there. Yeah, and we'll get into the backstory of Cersei and Morgan 147 00:15:10,962 --> 00:15:15,325 Le Fay, but first to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient 148 00:15:15,365 --> 00:15:21,709 duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ 9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining 149 00:15:21,869 --> 00:15:23,938 a winner. in our Duel matchups. 150 00:15:52,782 --> 00:15:57,723 Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and 151 00:15:57,763 --> 00:16:02,684 perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 152 00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:07,506 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the 153 00:16:07,546 --> 00:16:12,187 higher percentage is declared the victor as they have a higher probability to win any given 154 00:16:12,227 --> 00:16:18,169 battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book 155 00:16:18,209 --> 00:16:22,742 stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman. So the confidence 156 00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:27,044 rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material. 157 00:16:27,524 --> 00:16:32,886 My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, 158 00:16:33,247 --> 00:16:39,289 nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the 159 00:16:39,349 --> 00:16:43,511 simulations though, we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before 160 00:16:43,571 --> 00:16:48,453 improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat 161 00:16:48,493 --> 00:16:53,223 for beat. And it's my turn to go first with the DC characters backstory, so let me tell 162 00:16:53,243 --> 00:17:00,805 you all about Cersei. Now over 1200 years BC, Cersei was born to the Titans Hyperion and 163 00:17:00,885 --> 00:17:07,427 Persace and raised as the Princess of Colchis, a kingdom in the Caucasus region. Known for 164 00:17:07,467 --> 00:17:13,168 her beauty and cunning, she murdered her weak and unworthy husband, an act that led to her 165 00:17:13,228 --> 00:17:20,431 expulsion from the kingdom. Exiled and seeking power, Cersei fled to the island of Aiea, where 166 00:17:20,451 --> 00:17:26,795 she began studying the mystical arts and developed a talent for sorcery. While her magic was initially 167 00:17:26,875 --> 00:17:32,399 limited to the island, she used nearby sirens to lure unsuspecting sailors and travelers, 168 00:17:32,499 --> 00:17:38,162 transforming them into animals as punishment for their intrusion and to perfect her powers. 169 00:17:38,182 --> 00:17:43,486 Her prayers for greater power reached the Greek goddess Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft and 170 00:17:43,546 --> 00:17:48,667 an Olympian outcast who sought revenge against the gods who had wronged her. Hecate offered 171 00:17:48,747 --> 00:17:54,989 Cersei a pact, immortality, eternal beauty, and immense magical power in exchange for her 172 00:17:55,089 --> 00:18:00,571 soul. When Cersei accepted, Hecate transferred her essence into the sorceress, dying in the 173 00:18:00,611 --> 00:18:06,192 process by uttering a chilling prophecy, upon the death of which and the birth of which, 174 00:18:06,472 --> 00:18:12,986 Hecate, by name and choice, shall repossess her soul. Initially unconcerned by the prophecy, 175 00:18:13,387 --> 00:18:19,089 Cersei reveled in her newfound abilities, using them to raise Colchis in a single day. She 176 00:18:19,129 --> 00:18:25,552 became infamous for her power to transform humans into animals, creating subservient bestiomorphs, 177 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:32,355 sometimes called animin, bound to her will. Empowered by Hecate's hatred of the gods, Cersei 178 00:18:32,435 --> 00:18:38,297 relished in fostering discord between men and women, sowing mistrust and animosity wherever 179 00:18:38,337 --> 00:18:44,211 she went. She became wary, however, when the Amazons, warrior women blessed by the Olympian 180 00:18:44,251 --> 00:18:50,393 gods, were created. Ares, the god of war, assured Cersei that the Amazons would fall under his 181 00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:55,314 schemes, however, and she initially allowed him to act unchallenged. You can learn more 182 00:18:55,334 --> 00:19:01,656 about Ares in our Ares vs Loki duel episode. When Hercules enslaved the Amazons, Cersei 183 00:19:01,696 --> 00:19:06,697 took advantage of the situation to create a division amongst the group by manipulating 184 00:19:06,837 --> 00:19:13,252 Ariadne. into murdering Antiochus, the sister of Apollita, who had brokered peace with Athens. 185 00:19:13,732 --> 00:19:20,315 This act resulted in a rift between the Themiscerian Amazons and the newly formed Bona-Migdala tribe, 186 00:19:20,575 --> 00:19:27,498 fulfilling Cersei's aim to weaken their unity. For centuries, Cersei remained on Aaea, orchestrating 187 00:19:27,538 --> 00:19:32,740 chaos and destruction from afar when it suited her. By modern times, she had retreated to 188 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:38,328 her island as an enigmatic recluse. But when Wonder Woman appeared in Man's World, Cersei 189 00:19:38,368 --> 00:19:43,672 was surprised that Amazons had survived, as all traces of them had vanished for hundreds 190 00:19:43,712 --> 00:19:49,157 of years. You can learn more about Wonder Woman in our Wonder Woman vs. Thor episode. Fearing 191 00:19:49,257 --> 00:19:55,322 Diana was the fulfillment of Hecate's prophecy, she plotted to destroy her, but feared direct 192 00:19:55,382 --> 00:20:01,747 confrontation. Cersei's attempt to revert Diana back into clay failed when the Greek gods intervened, 193 00:20:01,847 --> 00:20:07,202 but her obsession with the Amazon Princess endured. Cersei's hatred for the Amazons led her to 194 00:20:07,262 --> 00:20:12,965 instigate a war of the gods between the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian pantheons in an effort 195 00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:18,367 to sap their power for herself. Cersei aligned herself with the Banu-Migdhal Amazons, using 196 00:20:18,387 --> 00:20:23,670 them as pawns in her effort to discredit Wonder Woman and the Themyscirans. Her plan reached 197 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:28,792 their apex when she killed Wonder Woman by finally reverting her into the clay from which she 198 00:20:28,832 --> 00:20:33,406 had been formed. However, with the aid of the Spectre and the Phantom Stranger... Wonder 199 00:20:33,446 --> 00:20:39,710 Woman was resurrected and Cersei's plot unraveled. Hecate's soul abandoned Cersei during the battle, 200 00:20:40,051 --> 00:20:45,455 leaving her seemingly defeated. Following her failure in the War of the Gods, Cersei turned 201 00:20:45,495 --> 00:20:51,819 on her Bonamigdol Amazons, casting them and the Themyscaryans into a demon-infested dimension. 202 00:20:52,199 --> 00:20:57,403 The Amazons spent years fighting for survival. When Wonder Woman confronted her, Cersei was 203 00:20:57,443 --> 00:21:02,534 forced to return the island to its original location after losing a wager with the Amazon 204 00:21:02,574 --> 00:21:08,876 Princess. In one of her most insidious schemes, Cersei disguised herself as Donna Milton, a 205 00:21:08,956 --> 00:21:15,738 lawyer who befriended Diana to destroy her from within. Cersei cast a spell on herself to suppress 206 00:21:15,758 --> 00:21:20,739 her memories of her true identity, ensuring the Donna Milton persona would remain genuine 207 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,381 and immune to one romance lasso of truth. Under the skies, she became romantically involved 208 00:21:26,421 --> 00:21:32,489 with Ares Buchanan. the mortal guise of the god Ares, and gave birth to their daughter, 209 00:21:32,869 --> 00:21:39,135 Leda Milton. Eventually, Diana realized Donna's true nature, and though Cersei's memories returned, 210 00:21:39,575 --> 00:21:45,440 she found herself emotionally conflicted due to her new attachment to Diana as Donna Milton. 211 00:21:45,860 --> 00:21:51,185 In a rare act of selflessness, she saved Diana during a confrontation with a villain known 212 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:56,189 as the White Magician. Cersei later struck a deal with the demon Neuron to increase her 213 00:21:56,229 --> 00:22:01,987 magical power. She joined Lex Luthor's Injustice Gang, attempting to destroy the Justice League 214 00:22:02,308 --> 00:22:07,830 by turning its members against one another. She clashed with Wonder Woman repeatedly, including 215 00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:13,152 during an attack on New York City, where she transformed male superheroes into beast geomorphs, 216 00:22:13,492 --> 00:22:18,375 and transformed Superman into a doomsday-like monster to kill Wonder Woman. Later, Cersei 217 00:22:18,415 --> 00:22:24,757 empowered Wonder Woman's rogues, including Cheetah, Giganta, and Dr. Psycho, to test the Amazons' 218 00:22:24,797 --> 00:22:30,354 resolve. She stole Wonder Woman's powers during this period and declared herself the new Wonder 219 00:22:30,374 --> 00:22:35,758 Woman. However, Diana eventually regained her abilities, defeated Cersei, and banished her 220 00:22:35,858 --> 00:22:41,703 once again. In post-Flashpoint continuity, Cersei was reimagined as a red-haired bearer of the 221 00:22:41,763 --> 00:22:49,998 Witch Mark, which signified her possession of a fragment of Hecate's soul. in a plot to manipulate 222 00:22:50,038 --> 00:22:54,803 Superman into fighting Wonder Woman, the combined efforts of Superman and Wonder Woman thwarted 223 00:22:54,823 --> 00:23:00,728 her plans. Cersei later became entangled with Veronica Cale, an entrepreneur seeking vengeance 224 00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:05,552 against the Sons of Ares for kidnapping her daughter. Together, they trapped Phobos and 225 00:23:05,572 --> 00:23:11,276 Deimos, the twin Sons of Ares, in animal forms. Cersei deduced that Cale's daughter was being 226 00:23:11,317 --> 00:23:17,702 held on Themyscira, but refused to help further, fearing the consequences of freeing Ares. When 227 00:23:17,762 --> 00:23:23,005 Hecate sought to reclaim her soul through the Witchmarks, Cersei manipulated events to inherit 228 00:23:23,045 --> 00:23:28,529 Hecate's full power. She pretended to assist Wonder Woman and the Justice League Dark in 229 00:23:28,589 --> 00:23:34,554 fighting Hecate, but secretly sought to destroy her patron. Her plan succeeded, and with Hecate's 230 00:23:34,594 --> 00:23:41,078 death, Cersei became the new Goddess of Magic. She formed the Injustice League Dark, recruiting 231 00:23:41,118 --> 00:23:47,875 powerful magical beings to challenge Wonder However, her plans were thwarted when Diana 232 00:23:48,055 --> 00:23:53,919 used the power of Eclipso to defeat her. Rather than destroy Cersei, Diana imprisoned her in 233 00:23:53,939 --> 00:23:59,203 a magical mirror, allowing her to retain her newfound power, but barring her from using 234 00:23:59,323 --> 00:24:05,888 it against others. That's Cersei's backstory. Power-wise, Cersei is a goddess-level sorceress 235 00:24:05,928 --> 00:24:12,412 with vast magical power. Her abilities include matter and energy manipulation, reality alteration, 236 00:24:12,953 --> 00:24:18,975 and teleportation. She's best known for transforming humans into beast geomorphs, which are animal-like 237 00:24:19,015 --> 00:24:25,637 beings under her control. She can project destructive magical blasts, erect defensive shields, and 238 00:24:25,697 --> 00:24:31,139 summon creatures to do her bidding. Cersei's immortality prevents her from aging, and she 239 00:24:31,199 --> 00:24:36,760 is highly resistant to physical harm. She also has limited clairvoyance, allowing her to foresee 240 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,118 events and sense the presence of other immortals. And that's Cersei! I think the most surprising 241 00:24:42,158 --> 00:24:47,723 thing there is that my knowledge of the mythological Cersei was primarily from the Odyssey, but 242 00:24:47,743 --> 00:24:53,348 the fact that the Amazonians came after the events of that story was interesting. Well, 243 00:24:53,368 --> 00:24:59,253 not necessarily, because she had been on the island of Aya for a while, even after the Amazons, 244 00:24:59,293 --> 00:25:04,317 so she stayed there. Alright, so I thought I had the Amazons chronologically placed in a 245 00:25:04,377 --> 00:25:10,706 certain time, but yeah, it's pretty vague, I guess, when they started. Greek Myth! is not 246 00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:18,133 as interesting as Arthurian legend. So, oh, what? You heard me. That's right. Let me go 247 00:25:18,153 --> 00:25:24,678 ahead and get into the Arthurian legend that is Morgan Le Fay. Now, Morgan Le Fay was born 248 00:25:24,778 --> 00:25:31,444 in the magical Celtic realm of Avalon during the sixth century days of Camelot. She's the 249 00:25:31,484 --> 00:25:38,910 daughter of a grain, the sea princess, and an unknown father of fairy lineage. A young sorcerer 250 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:45,172 from Avalon named Merlin forewarned of a great catastrophe that would befall Egraine's kingdom 251 00:25:45,592 --> 00:25:51,273 and helped the mother and daughter flee to Earth's realm in Britain. There Merlin arranged for 252 00:25:51,353 --> 00:25:59,176 Egraine to marry Gorloi, Duke of Tintagel who adopted the young Morgan. King Uther Pendragon 253 00:25:59,216 --> 00:26:06,054 of England lusted after Egraine and killed Gorloi, taking Morgan's mother as his own bride. When 254 00:26:06,074 --> 00:26:12,818 Negrane birthed them a son, Morgan became the half-sister of Arthur Pendragon, whom Merlin 255 00:26:12,858 --> 00:26:18,702 had prophesied would become the greatest king of Britain. Merlin trained Morgan Le Fay in 256 00:26:18,762 --> 00:26:25,731 sorcery as she grew up, and she became his apprentice and later lover. though the alliance soon unraveled 257 00:26:25,811 --> 00:26:31,697 when she grew furious with his apparent abandonment of their relationship in favor of King Arthur's 258 00:26:31,797 --> 00:26:36,962 reign and the spread of Christianity, since Morrigan was a disciple of the old Druidic 259 00:26:37,002 --> 00:26:42,607 ways of Britain. She had resented King Arthur from the moment of his birth, and allied herself 260 00:26:42,627 --> 00:26:48,632 with his bastard son and her nephew, Mordred, often conspiring with him against both Camelot 261 00:26:48,912 --> 00:26:54,457 and Arthur himself. Morgan's long rivalry with Merlin intensified, given his role as royal 262 00:26:54,517 --> 00:27:00,842 advisor and enforcer against her plots. She occasionally resided at Castle Le Fay, which 263 00:27:00,882 --> 00:27:06,146 was gifted to her by Arthur in his attempts to keep peace, but she continued to undermine 264 00:27:06,186 --> 00:27:12,131 him from within. In her early forays into black magic, Morgan led a cult who worshipped the 265 00:27:12,251 --> 00:27:18,516 elder god Chthon, the god of chaos. She assembled and helped bind his scattered scrolls into 266 00:27:18,556 --> 00:27:26,082 a single tome known as the Darkhold. Unfortunately for her, the summon to C'thun proved too powerful 267 00:27:26,102 --> 00:27:31,626 to control, so Morgan and her followers bound him within Wundergorm Mountain. You can learn 268 00:27:31,686 --> 00:27:38,290 more about C'thun and Wundergorm Mountain in our Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch One of her disciples, 269 00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:43,653 Magnus, eventually saw the evil in her ways and stole the Darkhold to prevent Morrigan 270 00:27:43,693 --> 00:27:49,737 from abusing its contents. She slew Magnus in retaliation, but lost her access to the book's 271 00:27:49,837 --> 00:27:55,780 dark secrets. Her conflicts with Arthur often centered on the sword Excalibur, which she 272 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,484 tried to sabotage by striking a chip from the real blade and forging a hellish replica. She 273 00:28:02,544 --> 00:28:07,800 resented Lancelot. one of the Knights of the Round Table for spurring her affections, and 274 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:13,525 she eventually exposed Lancelot's affair with Arthur's Queen Guinevere, fracturing the Court 275 00:28:13,565 --> 00:28:19,870 of Camelot from within and helping incite the civil war that spelled Arthur's downfall. As 276 00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:26,435 these events reached their climax, Merlin intervened repeatedly, eventually having Morgan imprisoned 277 00:28:26,555 --> 00:28:31,820 with a powerful enchantment, though she managed to project her astral form beyond physical 278 00:28:34,318 --> 00:28:40,559 throughout time. When Mordred gravely wounded his father, the king, Morgan's astral form 279 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:46,801 transported Arthur's soul to Avalon, yet her hatred of his legacy of Camelot endured, and 280 00:28:46,841 --> 00:28:52,503 she continued her quest for greater power from within her imprisonment. She was particularly 281 00:28:52,543 --> 00:28:57,724 determined to retrieve the Darkhold in future centuries, believing it could finally free 282 00:28:57,764 --> 00:29:03,626 her from Merlin's longstanding bindings and allow her to rule unrestricted. Over centuries, 283 00:29:03,786 --> 00:29:10,128 Morgan repeatedly manifested in eras beyond her original timeline. In the modern age, she 284 00:29:10,188 --> 00:29:15,290 often confronted heroes such as Doctor Strange and the Avengers. She tried to possess people 285 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:21,792 to bypass her constraints, including the heroine Spider-Woman, aka Jessica Drew, whose body 286 00:29:21,892 --> 00:29:27,695 she temporarily took control of. Morgan also clashed with Iron Man. whom she met when Dr. 287 00:29:27,735 --> 00:29:32,719 Doom time traveled back to her era and struck a deal with her in exchange for knowledge of 288 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:38,925 the dark arts. Doom promised to help Morgan's forces if she would aid in rescuing his mother's 289 00:29:38,965 --> 00:29:45,531 soul from hell, yet the uneasy alliance ended in betrayal on both sides, creating an enduring 290 00:29:45,651 --> 00:29:51,296 enmity. Morgan nonetheless taught Doom much about sorcery, and the two maintained a recurrent 291 00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:57,447 tangled relationship across time. sometimes as lovers, other times as bitter enemies. They 292 00:29:57,547 --> 00:30:03,108 even produced a daughter, Caroline Le Fay. You can learn more about Dr. Doom in his duel against 293 00:30:03,288 --> 00:30:08,450 Superman. Morgan later tapped into the magic of the Asgardian artifact known as the Twilight 294 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:15,132 Sword, which she used to reshape reality, forging a medieval-style Earth with herself as its 295 00:30:15,172 --> 00:30:21,093 sole ruler, presiding over Earth's mightiest heroes. She also raised armies of the dead, 296 00:30:21,514 --> 00:30:26,957 enslaved powerful beings like the Scarlet Witch, and attempted to resurrect the sunken continent 297 00:30:26,997 --> 00:30:33,682 of Atlantis, mistaking it for her fabled Avalon. From the past, she later fought Norman Osborn's 298 00:30:33,742 --> 00:30:39,506 Dark Avengers with an army of demons. Although the Dark Avengers destroyed her several times 299 00:30:39,526 --> 00:30:44,730 in that confrontation, she kept resurrecting herself in the past into the present until 300 00:30:44,770 --> 00:30:50,478 Doctor Doom and Iron Patriot traveled back to her timeline and magically exiled her. into 301 00:30:50,538 --> 00:30:56,962 her own dark cauldron. Even that proved temporary however as Morgan's daughter Caroline retrieved 302 00:30:56,982 --> 00:31:01,785 her from the cauldron and Morgan raised undead armies throughout Europe bringing her into 303 00:31:01,825 --> 00:31:07,790 conflict with the Avengers yet again. She later attempted to conquer Camelot which Merlin transported 304 00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:13,113 into the realm of Avalon and she fought against Captain Britton and his sister Betsy Braddock. 305 00:31:13,493 --> 00:31:19,922 She put Captain Britton under her spell forcing Betsy to don his amulet of right artifact to 306 00:31:19,962 --> 00:31:24,846 become the new Captain Britain, which you can learn more about in our Uncle Sam vs Captain 307 00:31:24,906 --> 00:31:30,771 Britain Duel episode. And that's her backstory. Powers-wise, Morgan Le Fay is an accomplished 308 00:31:30,811 --> 00:31:36,876 sorceress with a vast array of mystical abilities that include reality warping, magical time 309 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:45,383 travel, necromancy, self-resurrection, flight, shape-shifting, transmutation, energy manipulation, 310 00:31:45,783 --> 00:31:52,060 illusion casting, astral projection, and and duplication. Her one weakness due to her fairy 311 00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:58,404 heritage is the metal of iron. And that's her backstory. I guess I should say that Cersei 312 00:31:58,424 --> 00:32:05,529 has a weakness as well. And that is an herb known as Molly, I think. Like ecstasy? It's 313 00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:12,074 gotta be. I don't know. Well, so convenient of you to leave that out of her backstory. 314 00:32:12,814 --> 00:32:18,169 I'm pretty sure it's harder to find this herb than it is fucking iron. That's ridiculous. 315 00:32:18,290 --> 00:32:21,342 Who knows? Molly's everywhere these days. Stay safe, kids. 316 00:32:29,134 --> 00:32:34,755 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 317 00:32:34,795 --> 00:32:40,517 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 318 00:32:40,577 --> 00:32:45,899 Dynomic Podcast Network presents... Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every 319 00:32:45,939 --> 00:32:51,421 Monday. Dynamic Duel, where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where 320 00:32:51,441 --> 00:32:57,188 the world is at its limit. TV and action heroes battle every Wednesday, and Sendro World, where 321 00:32:57,268 --> 00:33:02,972 anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on the matches and armed with 322 00:33:02,992 --> 00:33:09,135 the power of mathematical simulations, discover who will emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com 323 00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:12,017 where we settle the debate and settle the score. 324 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:19,811 Well now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on 325 00:33:19,871 --> 00:33:25,792 how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not 326 00:33:25,852 --> 00:33:31,174 this speculation, but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play out. AJ and NK, what are 327 00:33:31,194 --> 00:33:36,755 the rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters 328 00:33:36,775 --> 00:33:41,317 have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out 329 00:33:41,637 --> 00:33:45,962 is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation, 330 00:33:46,242 --> 00:33:50,924 the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a non-descript environment 331 00:33:51,164 --> 00:33:55,686 that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered 332 00:33:55,706 --> 00:34:00,888 in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright, then let's 333 00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:07,030 get into it. Cersei and Morgan Le Fay meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? Morgan Le 334 00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:13,713 Fay, she usually wears jewelry, right? Like a necklace? Mmm... Like a skull necklace? Yeah. 335 00:34:13,933 --> 00:34:20,393 Okay. Well, I'm going to say that Cersei starts by transforming that skull necklace into like 336 00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:26,357 this snake creature that just chokes and bites her. All right. OK, well, before the snake 337 00:34:26,438 --> 00:34:33,442 bites her, Morgan Lafay transforms it into a chain, which she, you know, unfurls from around 338 00:34:33,462 --> 00:34:40,407 her neck and she casts across the battlefield over to Cersei and binds her up with it. And 339 00:34:40,427 --> 00:34:47,264 it transports her into this dark dungeon. inside a medieval castle. What is this chain made 340 00:34:47,324 --> 00:34:53,249 of? Is it iron? No, like, I don't know. It's fucking made out of lead or something. Okay, 341 00:34:54,110 --> 00:34:59,734 just checking. In this medieval dungeon, Cersei, she's just gonna blast off her chains, her 342 00:34:59,754 --> 00:35:05,619 shackles or whatever, with these purple magic bolts. And once she's free, she's also gonna 343 00:35:05,659 --> 00:35:11,764 blast Morgan with those bolts as well. Except that in this dungeon, Morgan Le Fay has like 344 00:35:11,784 --> 00:35:18,207 this skeleton army guarding her. that takes the brunt of this magical blast. And she uses 345 00:35:18,267 --> 00:35:26,149 the fallen skeleton army bodies and she reforms them into this massive bone dragon that just 346 00:35:26,209 --> 00:35:32,411 blasts down a flame of green eldritch fire that engulfs her sea and burns her alive. Forest 347 00:35:32,431 --> 00:35:39,033 field, all right? Magical forest field. It blocks those flames. And while she's protecting herself. 348 00:35:39,790 --> 00:35:44,474 Cersei is going to take the stones that make up the walls of the dungeon around her and 349 00:35:44,614 --> 00:35:51,840 use them to form a giant rock minotaur that just dashes straight into the dragon scattering 350 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:57,125 its bones everywhere and then the minotaur is gonna look at Morgan Lafay and he's gonna charge 351 00:35:57,165 --> 00:36:04,791 into her just impaling her on its horns Except as the minotaur rushes at Morgan Lafay It's 352 00:36:04,811 --> 00:36:10,462 gonna pass through this like time spell that's gonna de-age this rock Minotaur until, you 353 00:36:10,482 --> 00:36:18,385 know, it's just a Minotaur rock calf baby. And it stumbles and falls onto the ground into 354 00:36:18,405 --> 00:36:23,786 like a bunch of little pebbles, okay? And each of those are gonna get transposed into this 355 00:36:24,206 --> 00:36:31,108 fairy being. And now Morgan Le Fay is in command of this fairy army, and she's gonna send them 356 00:36:31,168 --> 00:36:38,026 out like a legion of kamikaze pilots that just tear through Cersei. Like a barrage of glowing 357 00:36:38,146 --> 00:36:45,768 magical bullets. Oh damn, okay. Like Tinkerbells. Yeah. All right, so Cersei, she's being pummeled 358 00:36:45,828 --> 00:36:52,510 by these fairy bullets and she's still in this damn dungeon. So she's just gonna teleport 359 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:58,512 out of there and from outside of whatever medieval castle they were just in, she's gonna cause 360 00:36:58,552 --> 00:37:03,933 an earthquake beneath it that just brings the whole castle crumbling down on top of Morgan. 361 00:37:04,393 --> 00:37:12,303 Okay, so. Morgan gets buried by Castle Lafay, but from the rubble, she's gonna sprout this 362 00:37:12,403 --> 00:37:20,265 massive plant with like a flower bulb from which she emerges safe and sound and she commands 363 00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:26,687 the roots of this plant to emerge from the ground and wrap up Cersei with all these vines that 364 00:37:26,767 --> 00:37:32,669 drain her of her power until she's just a husk. Okay, but as these roots are approaching Cersei, 365 00:37:35,746 --> 00:37:41,809 that gives her an iron touch, you know, kind of like Midas's golden touch, but with iron, 366 00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:49,833 all right? So this plant that Morgan was inside of is now just an iron trap that burns her 367 00:37:49,873 --> 00:37:55,896 to death, giving Cersei the win. I said she emerged from the plant. Okay, but not in time. 368 00:37:55,956 --> 00:38:03,721 Okay, well, except that the giant plant that Cersei tried to turn into iron, it actually 369 00:38:03,741 --> 00:38:10,987 turns out that the plant Molly, the herb, which disrupts Cersei's magic. So it doesn't turn 370 00:38:11,007 --> 00:38:17,609 to iron. It turns into this like impure metal that Cersei just thinks is iron. But it's actually 371 00:38:17,709 --> 00:38:23,331 like some kind of like Molly metal compound. We'll say molybdenum, okay? Molybdenum. What? 372 00:38:23,351 --> 00:38:30,172 All right. And Morgan Le Fay crafts a giant sword out of this metal that she swings at 373 00:38:30,212 --> 00:38:36,767 Cersei and it decapitates her, ending this match. How the heck did Morgan even know Cersei was 374 00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:44,131 weak to Molly? Well, how did Cersei know that Morgan Le Fay was weak to Iron? Dude, Cersei 375 00:38:44,151 --> 00:38:49,814 is like a lot older than Morgan. She knows all those Celtic fairies are weak to that shit. 376 00:38:49,914 --> 00:38:54,537 How does she know that Morgan's like a fairy folk, like a descendant of that? She doesn't 377 00:38:54,557 --> 00:38:59,580 know that. And also, like Morgan Le Fay has been around long enough to know by the present 378 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:06,687 time that like Cersei was... a figure that is weak to the fucking molly herb. Morgan's been 379 00:39:06,707 --> 00:39:12,110 around long enough. Oh, yeah. Morgan's been around. All right. Yeah. Marvel villain village 380 00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:18,232 bicycle over here, like you said earlier, checks out. Hey, we don't villain shame around here. 381 00:39:18,452 --> 00:39:24,535 OK. All right. Well, go ahead and run the stats on these characters and find out which scenario 382 00:39:24,575 --> 00:39:33,206 happens. Either Cersei traps Morgan Le Fay in an iron plant that burns her to death. or Morgan 383 00:39:33,226 --> 00:39:40,090 Le Fay creates a molybdenum sword that decapitates Cersei. We'll run the stats and find out who 384 00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:48,355 came out on top. AJ9K, hit it. Inputting data, running calculations, processing results, simulations 385 00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:56,340 complete. All right, these sorceresses were pretty close in their statistics. There were 386 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,950 just a few instances in which they deferred. Like we said that- Morgan Le Fay was faster 387 00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:07,153 primarily because, you know, the official Marvel power grid said that she was faster, I think 388 00:40:07,193 --> 00:40:12,536 because she can transport her consciousness through time and space. Whereas Cersei, you 389 00:40:12,556 --> 00:40:17,358 know, sticks to the present. Right, but we did give the edge to Cersei when it came to fighting 390 00:40:17,398 --> 00:40:22,640 skill because she actually throws hands with Wonder Woman on occasion, whereas Morgan Le 391 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,107 Fay really never fights physically. Right, yeah, never. Regarding the rest of the stats, they 392 00:40:28,127 --> 00:40:32,508 were actually similar. Like, they're pretty much identical, especially when it comes to 393 00:40:32,548 --> 00:40:37,531 abasiveness, durability, strength. Actually, we did say that Cersei was a little bit stronger 394 00:40:37,551 --> 00:40:42,933 than Morgan Le Fay physically. Right, yes, but everything else was the same. So taking all 395 00:40:42,973 --> 00:40:47,835 of this data into consideration, Joseph, who do you think came out on top? Morgan Le Fay? 396 00:40:47,855 --> 00:40:54,257 That's not even a question. Don't even ask me. Morgan Le Fay. I literally just asked you. 397 00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:58,491 Well, Don't do that again. And I don't even want to know what the Instagram followers say. 398 00:40:58,671 --> 00:41:04,792 71% of them picked Cersei to win, so they're obviously biased. Actually, I've been looking 399 00:41:04,832 --> 00:41:10,614 back at the Instagram polls, like a majority of them have come out DC recently, which is 400 00:41:11,074 --> 00:41:17,016 fascinating and awesome. And lame. What the fuck is going on there? We have way too many 401 00:41:17,056 --> 00:41:22,577 DC fans following us on Instagram. We need more Marvel guys on there. Well, let's check out 402 00:41:22,597 --> 00:41:30,116 the actual winning percentage. AJ9K the results please. Here you are, sir.. The winner of the matchup 403 00:41:30,416 --> 00:41:41,841 between Circe and Morgan Le Fay is... Circe by 59.6% compared to Morgan Le Fay's 40.4% 404 00:41:43,221 --> 00:41:52,365 which means she only wins 404 of the 1000 simulated matches compared to Circe's 596. Well, I'm 405 00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:56,655 going to call it bullshit. on those results, even if it affects our credibility. I'm going 406 00:41:56,675 --> 00:42:05,260 to call bullshit. Why? Because I don't like it. When it came down to it. Yes, Morgan Le 407 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:12,064 Fay was faster, but she couldn't outmatch Circe's strength and fighting skill. You can say that, 408 00:42:12,504 --> 00:42:16,826 but it's still not going to make me accept it. Oh, look, everyone, Joseph doesn't want to 409 00:42:16,906 --> 00:42:25,307 accept reality. I accept my reality. OK. You can take your reality. That's good for you. 410 00:42:25,387 --> 00:42:31,269 I accept that for you. And then I'll just take my reality where Morgan LeFay wins. Yeah. Ooh, 411 00:42:31,329 --> 00:42:37,232 sorry, but the numbers do not lie. That does not work. Sucks to suck, but that does it for 412 00:42:37,252 --> 00:42:45,064 this duel. AJ9K, help close this out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic Duel. Visit the show's 413 00:42:45,104 --> 00:42:51,008 website at dynamicDuel.com and follow us on Instagram at dynamicDuelpodcast. You can support 414 00:42:51,028 --> 00:42:56,752 the show on Patreon at patreon.com slash dynamicDuel and joining a tier that works for you, or by 415 00:42:56,812 --> 00:43:02,976 rating and reviewing Dynamic Duel on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser or on our website. Don't 416 00:43:02,996 --> 00:43:07,539 forget to listen to the other shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network, including Max Destruction, 417 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,583 Senjou World and Konsole Kombat. In our next episode, we are doing a duel that was chosen 418 00:43:14,623 --> 00:43:21,027 by our executive producer, Mickey Math and Gian, and that is Blockbuster versus Tombstone. Yeah, 419 00:43:21,067 --> 00:43:27,291 Tombstone is a prominent Spider-Man villain. And Blockbuster was a old video rental store 420 00:43:27,451 --> 00:43:33,355 from the 90s. Tombstone's a pizza, bro. But that is for this episode. We want to give a 421 00:43:33,415 --> 00:43:38,738 big thanks to our executive producers, Ken Johnson, John Sturowski, Zachary Hepburn. Dustin Balcom, 422 00:43:38,878 --> 00:43:44,280 Mickey Muthengian, Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Austin Wyslowski, AJ Dunkerley, 423 00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:50,223 Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spies, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis, Joseph Kersting, Josh 424 00:43:50,283 --> 00:43:55,285 Leiner, Mike Williams, and Oscar Galvez for helping make this podcast possible. And we'll 425 00:43:55,305 --> 00:44:00,467 talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. Not Joseph having too many 426 00:44:00,507 --> 00:44:04,889 drinks before recording this episode and slurring his words like a dental patient. Damn.