1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,972 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:25,038 --> 00:00:29,742 Welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:29,762 --> 00:00:35,147 the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. 4 00:00:35,607 --> 00:00:42,273 I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin brother, Marvelous Joe. And in this episode, we are doing a duel 5 00:00:42,554 --> 00:00:48,259 between the characters of Blockbuster and Tombstone. And I know what you're thinking, but you're 6 00:00:48,299 --> 00:00:54,748 wrong. This is not, in fact, a battle. between a 90s era video store and a frozen pizza company, 7 00:00:55,269 --> 00:01:00,533 it is comic book characters. Obscure ones, but comic book characters nonetheless. I don't 8 00:01:00,553 --> 00:01:04,516 think Tombstone is that obscure. He's a pretty prominent Spider-Man and Daredevil villain. 9 00:01:04,937 --> 00:01:09,641 I mean, he was in the, into the Spider-Verse movie. I totally blocked that. Blockbuster 10 00:01:09,681 --> 00:01:15,725 actually has been in a few animated works before, so maybe he's not that obscure either. That 11 00:01:15,766 --> 00:01:21,302 said, when I Google Blockbuster, the first thing that comes up is not the DC character. Same 12 00:01:21,322 --> 00:01:26,246 thing with Tombstone, so fair enough. Now this duel was specifically requested by our executive 13 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:30,670 producer, Miggy Mathagean. We'll break down the characters' histories and abilities and 14 00:01:30,730 --> 00:01:34,213 run a thousand simulations to find out who would actually win. Before that, we're gonna break 15 00:01:34,233 --> 00:01:38,757 down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there was just one news item, 16 00:01:39,157 --> 00:01:45,342 and that was that the Sandman series for Netflix is ending with season two. Yeah, the day this 17 00:01:45,382 --> 00:01:50,066 episode drops, we're supposed to get the first teaser trailer for the Fantastic Four first 18 00:01:50,106 --> 00:01:55,010 steps movie that's coming out later this summer, but, you know, that's just our luck. So next 19 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:58,993 week we'll be talking about the teaser, but as always, we list our segment times in our 20 00:01:59,033 --> 00:02:02,316 episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to 21 00:02:02,336 --> 00:02:07,561 a particular topic. Guys, our artificially intelligent dual simulator AJ9K has a quick message for 22 00:02:07,581 --> 00:02:14,408 our listeners, so listen up. 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Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast. Guys, be sure to 31 00:02:56,982 --> 00:03:01,423 tune into the other shows on the DynaMic Podcast Network this week, including Max Destruction, 32 00:03:01,803 --> 00:03:05,984 which pits your favorite action heroes from film and television against each other. This 33 00:03:06,024 --> 00:03:10,985 week, hosts Scotty and Gilly are finding out who would win in a fight between the MCU's 34 00:03:11,065 --> 00:03:17,107 Spider-Man and the DCEU's Blue Beetle. That's right, they're doing a Marvel versus DC episode. 35 00:03:17,587 --> 00:03:22,268 Totally here for it. Can't wait to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man wipe the floor with Trilla Mardi 36 00:03:22,308 --> 00:03:27,202 Doignes' Blue Beetle. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. We've run that battle. I'm pretty confident 37 00:03:27,262 --> 00:03:31,647 I know who comes out on top. We ran the comic book character battle, but who wins between 38 00:03:31,667 --> 00:03:37,553 the movie characters? I'm still pretty confident. Well you're done. On the Senjoh World Podcast, 39 00:03:37,593 --> 00:03:42,498 host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. This 40 00:03:42,538 --> 00:03:47,543 Thursday, Zach is going to find out who'd win between Blade from the Blade anime against 41 00:03:47,703 --> 00:03:53,535 Richter Belmont from the Castlevania anime. On the Konsole Kombat podcast hosts John and 42 00:03:53,555 --> 00:03:58,618 Dean simulate battles between popular video game characters. In yesterday's episode, they 43 00:03:58,638 --> 00:04:03,961 found out who would win between Princess Peach and Princess Zelda. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com 44 00:04:04,201 --> 00:04:08,524 or click the link in our show notes to listen to all the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. 45 00:04:08,864 --> 00:04:15,148 But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to 46 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:20,431 give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram 47 00:04:20,451 --> 00:04:25,314 for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked 48 00:04:25,334 --> 00:04:31,799 you guys, which actor has given the best performance in a villain role for a Marvel or DC series? 49 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,102 And we got four answers, so let's go over our three honorable mentions as well as the no 50 00:04:36,142 --> 00:04:42,566 prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Lee Tapscott, who said, Hi, this is Lee 51 00:04:42,626 --> 00:04:50,299 Tapscott about which actor performances was the best villain. I think David Tennant as 52 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:58,183 Kilgrave, aka Purple Man, in the Jessica Jones series, you grew to hate him and he was perhaps 53 00:04:58,223 --> 00:05:03,506 the first villain we wanted to see the hero actually kill. Yeah, I mean, this was one of 54 00:05:03,526 --> 00:05:07,848 the answers to beat, right? Kilgrave, aka the Purple Man from the Jessica Jones television 55 00:05:07,888 --> 00:05:13,071 series, was played masterfully by David Tennant, who is, you know, a pretty charismatic actor, 56 00:05:13,131 --> 00:05:18,470 but by God, was he easy to hate in the course of that show. Yeah, I don't know if anyone 57 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:23,473 else could have played that role besides David Tennant, honestly. It probably would have ruined 58 00:05:23,493 --> 00:05:28,236 their career, just with all the horrible things that the character did. Right. But when you 59 00:05:28,276 --> 00:05:32,638 have someone like David Tennant who really choose the scenery with the role, he can kind of get 60 00:05:32,678 --> 00:05:37,721 by considering the subject matter. His influence was so lasting in that show that it carried 61 00:05:37,842 --> 00:05:42,304 on within the subsequent seasons of Jessica Jones. There were only three seasons of Jessica 62 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:46,786 Jones, but his presence was still definitely felt. Great answer, Lee. Our next honorable 63 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:53,188 mention goes to Clive, who said. Hi, this is Clive from Toronto. Without putting too much 64 00:05:53,248 --> 00:05:58,509 thought into it, the villain that comes to mind is Deathstroke in the Arrow TV show, specifically 65 00:05:58,549 --> 00:06:02,691 in the earlier seasons. I just remember feeling like the stakes were really high when this 66 00:06:02,711 --> 00:06:07,792 character was on screen. It really surprised me when he killed a significant character on 67 00:06:07,812 --> 00:06:14,322 the show, no spoilers, but in that single action, it showed me that this man was no joke. Yeah, 68 00:06:14,342 --> 00:06:19,344 Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke played by Manu Bennett in the Arrow television series was 69 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:24,247 a force to be reckoned with. The story arc of getting to know the character in the flashbacks 70 00:06:24,647 --> 00:06:30,270 on the island with Oliver Queen to when he became a full-fledged horror monster type villain 71 00:06:30,630 --> 00:06:36,093 in subsequent seasons where it seemed like no character was safe from being killed by Deathstroke 72 00:06:36,474 --> 00:06:41,576 was just remarkable. You never knew when or where he was going to appear and that was part 73 00:06:41,737 --> 00:06:45,667 of why the character was so scary. I've never seen the Arrow television series, but I've 74 00:06:45,707 --> 00:06:49,611 always heard good things about the Deathstroke character from that show. And there have been 75 00:06:49,691 --> 00:06:55,456 several live action iterations of Deathstroke. Like we got him in Titan season two, as well 76 00:06:55,516 --> 00:07:00,540 as like the post credit scene in the Justice League film. But yeah, Manu Burnett's portrayal 77 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:06,125 is largely regarded as the best. Yeah, the Arrowverse version is still the best. Great answer Clive. 78 00:07:06,205 --> 00:07:12,734 Our next honorable mention goes to Mike Williams, who said, Hi guys, Mike Williams here. I picked 79 00:07:12,774 --> 00:07:20,961 Clancy Brown for Lex Luthor in the Justice League Unlimited series and Oswald Patton for Modoc. 80 00:07:21,001 --> 00:07:26,266 Have a good day. Yeah, we didn't say specifically that these had to be live action performances. 81 00:07:26,646 --> 00:07:33,212 So Mike Williams gave us two animated performances, first with Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor and Patton 82 00:07:33,272 --> 00:07:39,986 Oswald as Modoc. Yeah, Clancy Brown to Lex Luthor is what Kevin Conroy is to Batman. He's just 83 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:45,287 the iconic voice for that role. It's hard to hear anybody else when you read the lines in 84 00:07:45,307 --> 00:07:51,049 the comics. And Patton Oswalt played the character of Modok so much better than how the character 85 00:07:51,069 --> 00:07:56,910 was portrayed in live action in the Ant-Man and the Wasp quantumania film. To me, the Hulu-Modok 86 00:07:57,010 --> 00:08:01,531 stop-motion animation depiction of the character is the quintessential version. Yeah, I've never 87 00:08:01,591 --> 00:08:06,933 seen if Patton Oswalt has ever said anything about the MCU version of Modok, but you have 88 00:08:06,953 --> 00:08:12,255 to imagine he was pretty embarrassed when he saw it. Like embarrassed for Kevin Feige and 89 00:08:12,295 --> 00:08:16,177 Marvel Studios. Yeah, they definitely didn't have to go that route. If I had my way, the 90 00:08:16,197 --> 00:08:20,059 character never would have taken off his faceplate. Because with the faceplate, it was actually 91 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:25,222 a pretty cool design for live action. But yeah, the Modok Hulu series was just fantastic. Great 92 00:08:25,282 --> 00:08:31,366 answer, Mike. But the winner of this week's Snow Prize is Buster Barnes. Who said? Hi, 93 00:08:31,406 --> 00:08:35,208 guys, Buster Barnes here. And for my pick, I'm going to go for a bit of an underrated shout, 94 00:08:35,228 --> 00:08:41,323 which is Cronden, who plays Tobias Wail in The Black Lightning Show, a pretty underrated show 95 00:08:41,403 --> 00:08:47,446 and a very underrated villain. He was menacing, imposing, intimidating for a guy who didn't 96 00:08:47,466 --> 00:08:53,450 really have any acting credits before this show. I think he was a great villain and yeah, I 97 00:08:53,470 --> 00:08:57,932 think it's a really underrated performance. See you guys. Love the show. Yeah. Crandon, 98 00:08:57,992 --> 00:09:04,355 I believe is a rapper. He's a musician by profession, but honestly, I can't think of anyone better 99 00:09:04,395 --> 00:09:09,310 to play the role of Tobias Whale for the Black Lightning series. I didn't watch the whole 100 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:15,793 series, but the episodes I did watch, Cronden made a fantastic kingpin-esque villain, just 101 00:09:15,833 --> 00:09:21,415 in terms of striking and imposing figure and intimidation factor. Yeah, I never watched 102 00:09:21,435 --> 00:09:25,977 the Black Lightning television series, so I only know of his version of Tobias Whale through 103 00:09:25,997 --> 00:09:30,779 the marketing of the show. And yeah, it looked like it was a pretty good performance. I don't 104 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:35,381 know too much about Tobias Whale in general. I do remember that he was in the Suicide Squad, 105 00:09:35,441 --> 00:09:40,283 hell to pay. animated movie and he was pretty imposing in that as well. But the reason that 106 00:09:40,323 --> 00:09:46,024 Buster Barnes' answer gets the no prize this week is because Crandon also voiced the character 107 00:09:46,064 --> 00:09:52,186 of Tombstone in the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse movie. So it was a pretty topical answer considering 108 00:09:52,546 --> 00:09:56,908 that in this episode we're pitting Tombstone against Blockbuster. I thought it was interesting 109 00:09:56,968 --> 00:10:04,398 that Crandon is an albino African-American and so is Tobias Whale and Tombstone. So he's kind 110 00:10:04,418 --> 00:10:09,405 of like the perfect guy to play and voice those characters. So congrats to Buster Barnes. You 111 00:10:09,445 --> 00:10:13,912 win this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay 112 00:10:13,932 --> 00:10:18,418 tuned to later on in this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. But 113 00:10:18,458 --> 00:10:20,481 now that that's done, on to the news. 114 00:10:25,890 --> 00:10:30,933 So if you remember listening to our last episode, I mentioned that my most anticipated series 115 00:10:31,373 --> 00:10:36,357 of this year is probably Sandman season 2. I wasn't sure if we were going to get it, but 116 00:10:36,377 --> 00:10:42,401 it sounds like we are, and that this upcoming season will in fact be the final season of 117 00:10:42,441 --> 00:10:49,125 the series. Which to me was heartbreaking, because I know Sandman, the story written by Neil Gaiman, 118 00:10:49,565 --> 00:10:56,590 is a 10 volume series, so for it to end on season 2 felt very premature. and since it's one of 119 00:10:56,610 --> 00:11:01,871 my favorite series, I felt like they were just making a huge mistake. Initially, I was under 120 00:11:01,911 --> 00:11:07,373 the assumption that the show's conclusion was coming about because of several sexual misconduct 121 00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:13,495 accusations leveled at Neil Gaiman, and that may very well be why they decided to announce 122 00:11:13,615 --> 00:11:18,976 at this time that the series is concluding, but according to Variety, they were actually 123 00:11:19,016 --> 00:11:24,626 planning on ending with season 2 prior to these allegations coming out. Yeah, the series of 124 00:11:24,686 --> 00:11:29,348 Sandman is like 10 volumes, but only so much of that story actually deals directly with 125 00:11:29,709 --> 00:11:34,811 the character of Dream, right? Like a lot of the story is somewhat anthological to my understanding. 126 00:11:35,231 --> 00:11:39,534 So the show producers released a statement saying that since they're focusing really on the character 127 00:11:39,574 --> 00:11:44,596 of Dream, they're skipping over a lot of the other stuff and are able to, I guess, tell 128 00:11:44,656 --> 00:11:50,122 his complete arc within this next season. Now initially I was calling BS on that reasoning. 129 00:11:50,202 --> 00:11:55,464 I thought that was just a political way to say, hey, we're going to end this series because 130 00:11:55,544 --> 00:12:00,285 of Neil Gaiman's alleged conduct. But according to Variety, they were hearing from sources 131 00:12:00,505 --> 00:12:06,007 that the series was getting too pricey to continue. So that's why they decided to focus solely 132 00:12:06,207 --> 00:12:12,328 on Dream Story, which, yeah, there's not as much to Dream Story specifically in the series 133 00:12:12,408 --> 00:12:18,483 run as you would think for a series titled The Sandman. So I could kind of buy that. I totally 134 00:12:18,503 --> 00:12:22,865 believe that it's an expensive show because it does look amazing. All the special effects 135 00:12:22,965 --> 00:12:27,487 and the production value is pretty incredible. Yeah, the show is very cinematic, very special 136 00:12:27,527 --> 00:12:31,830 effects heavy. I think season one was the most expensive season of a show that Warner Brothers 137 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:36,912 had ever produced in fact. So yeah, I guess this should not be shocking. We did not get 138 00:12:36,932 --> 00:12:41,655 a release date for this season with this news, although we do know it's coming out in 2025. 139 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:48,596 We did however get a poster, which is pretty bad ass all seven members of the Endless on 140 00:12:48,656 --> 00:12:54,964 it. Everyone from death to despair, delirium, desire, destiny, and destruction. It's pretty 141 00:12:55,004 --> 00:12:58,929 awesome to see live-action versions of each of these characters, and I can't wait to see 142 00:12:58,969 --> 00:13:04,095 them in the series itself. But with the announcement that this is the final season of The Sandman, 143 00:13:04,495 --> 00:13:06,197 that brings us to our question of the week. 144 00:13:10,894 --> 00:13:16,098 What is a cancelled Marvel or DC television series that you most wish would have gotten 145 00:13:16,238 --> 00:13:21,762 at least one other season? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone 146 00:13:21,782 --> 00:13:25,866 button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a 147 00:13:25,906 --> 00:13:30,750 voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in 148 00:13:30,770 --> 00:13:35,534 case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a 149 00:13:35,574 --> 00:13:41,409 Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before... February 8th. 150 00:13:49,006 --> 00:13:53,494 That does it for all the news for this episode, so now let's move on to our main event, where 151 00:13:53,554 --> 00:14:00,607 we find out who would win in a battle between the DC Villain Blockbuster and the Marvel Villain 152 00:14:01,008 --> 00:14:01,649 Tombstone. 153 00:14:16,902 --> 00:14:24,844 Okay, Blockbuster and Tombstone. These are two broodish mobster villains. One is the primary 154 00:14:24,884 --> 00:14:30,125 villain you could say for Nightwing and Tombstone, as I've recently learned, is a villain for 155 00:14:30,145 --> 00:14:34,627 characters like Daredevil and Spider-Man. So it's kind of fitting because we actually pit 156 00:14:34,887 --> 00:14:39,408 the characters of Nightwing and Daredevil in a duel prior to this and now it looks like 157 00:14:39,428 --> 00:14:43,109 their villains are facing off against each other. Oh yeah, I didn't really think about that before 158 00:14:43,149 --> 00:14:46,950 but you're totally right. I don't know much about the character of Blockbuster actually. 159 00:14:46,970 --> 00:14:52,652 I don't think I've read a single DC comic with him as the villain. So I'm basically going 160 00:14:52,752 --> 00:14:57,273 into this from scratch. It'll be really interesting to learn exactly who this character is before 161 00:14:57,353 --> 00:15:03,515 facing off against Tombstone. Basically Blockbuster looks like they kind of just ripped off Tombstone, 162 00:15:03,815 --> 00:15:08,416 but instead of having like this fade haircut, it's long hair. Yeah. In this episode, we're 163 00:15:08,436 --> 00:15:14,494 going to find out who would win in a battle between a mullet and a flat top. But to explain 164 00:15:14,514 --> 00:15:18,956 the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient dual simulator, Alfred Jarvis 165 00:15:19,036 --> 00:15:24,199 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our dual matchups. 166 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:29,322 Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants is by running 1000 167 00:15:29,802 --> 00:15:35,486 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic 168 00:15:35,526 --> 00:15:41,069 model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomized the statistics 169 00:15:41,109 --> 00:15:45,778 along a normal distribution. as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. 170 00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:50,940 The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from which the DC characters 171 00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:56,142 statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage 172 00:15:56,182 --> 00:16:01,583 potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. 173 00:16:02,063 --> 00:16:06,865 The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. The 174 00:16:06,905 --> 00:16:11,350 contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor. as they have a higher probability 175 00:16:11,390 --> 00:16:17,232 to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. 176 00:16:17,732 --> 00:16:22,213 The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so 177 00:16:22,253 --> 00:16:26,134 the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established 178 00:16:26,154 --> 00:16:31,716 in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are 179 00:16:31,756 --> 00:16:36,117 not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner. 180 00:16:37,506 --> 00:16:42,168 Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's histories 181 00:16:42,188 --> 00:16:47,611 and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations 182 00:16:47,631 --> 00:16:52,334 would play out beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go first with the Marvel characters 183 00:16:52,374 --> 00:16:58,978 backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you guys all about Tombstone. Now Alonso Thompson Lincoln 184 00:16:59,138 --> 00:17:03,921 was born in Harlem in New York City, where his journey into the criminal underworld began 185 00:17:04,021 --> 00:17:10,264 at an early age. As an African-American albino, he stood out among his peers, becoming a target 186 00:17:10,304 --> 00:17:15,686 for bullying. Rather than shrink from adversity, however, he turned it into his weapon, training 187 00:17:15,706 --> 00:17:20,768 his body into an intimidating size and using his natural strength to extort his classmates. 188 00:17:21,269 --> 00:17:26,291 The only person who ever showed him any kindness was Joseph Robbie Robertson, who would later 189 00:17:26,331 --> 00:17:31,373 grow to work for the Daily Bugle newspaper. That kindness ended when Robertson, the editor 190 00:17:31,413 --> 00:17:37,251 of the school paper, attempted to publish an expose on Lincoln's violent behavior. Feeling 191 00:17:37,271 --> 00:17:42,092 betrayed, Lincoln silenced Robbie through intimidation, a moment that would set the stage for their 192 00:17:42,132 --> 00:17:47,914 lifelong enmity. Lincoln dropped out of school and dove headfirst into a life of crime. His 193 00:17:47,954 --> 00:17:52,716 imposing stature and ruthless demeanor made him a natural enforcer, and his reputation 194 00:17:52,736 --> 00:17:58,337 for brutality only grew. As he climbed the ranks of organized crime, he sharpened his teeth 195 00:17:58,417 --> 00:18:04,629 into points. and trained as a hand-to-hand combatant, specializing in strangulation. He soon earned 196 00:18:04,689 --> 00:18:10,793 the moniker Tombstone, both for his pale complexion and the countless bodies he left in his wake. 197 00:18:11,213 --> 00:18:15,796 Tombstone's rise to power led him to Philadelphia, where he crossed paths with Robbie Robertson 198 00:18:15,957 --> 00:18:21,800 once again. Now a journalist, Robertson witnessed Tombstone murder a crime informant, but, paralyzed 199 00:18:21,841 --> 00:18:24,823 by fear, chose to remain silent for decades. 200 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:35,811 working for the likes of Wilson Fisk, the Magia, and Hammerhead. Despite numerous arrests, Lincoln 201 00:18:35,931 --> 00:18:40,736 always managed to evade conviction, often due to witness intimidation or the sheer terror 202 00:18:40,756 --> 00:18:45,580 he instilled in those who might testify against him. Years later, Robertson, haunted by his 203 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:52,046 past inaction, decided to finally expose Tombstone. His confession led to Tombstone's first major 204 00:18:52,086 --> 00:18:57,202 incarceration, but it also landed Robbie in prison for withholding evidence. Tombstone 205 00:18:57,222 --> 00:19:03,123 arranged for his own transfer to the same prison, where he terrorized Robertson until the intervention 206 00:19:03,223 --> 00:19:09,165 of a fellow inmate, Bruiser. When Bruiser attempted to protect Robbie, Tombstone brutally murdered 207 00:19:09,205 --> 00:19:13,966 him. However, Robertson ultimately found the courage to stand up to his tormentor. When 208 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:19,328 they both escaped prison, he confronted Tombstone in battle, battling him with a pitchfork and 209 00:19:19,368 --> 00:19:24,874 finally escaping his grip. Tombstone resurfaced in New York, working under Hammerhead. and 210 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:30,116 later attempting to assassinate Robertson himself. However, a fateful accident at an Oscorp chemical 211 00:19:30,156 --> 00:19:36,919 plant changed him forever. Locked inside a chamber with an experimental gas called DIOX-3, Tombstone's 212 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:43,381 physiology mutated, giving him near invulnerable skin, increased strength, and enhanced speed. 213 00:19:43,781 --> 00:19:49,644 While the process made him virtually indestructible, it also gave him a terrifying stone-like complexion, 214 00:19:50,084 --> 00:19:55,306 cementing his legend as one of New York's deadliest criminals. With his new abilities, Tombstone 215 00:19:55,346 --> 00:20:00,107 fought Spider-Man on multiple occasions, as well as other street level heroes like Daredevil 216 00:20:00,307 --> 00:20:05,669 and Luke Cage. He even sought purpose with the Hand, engaging in an assassination competition 217 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:11,230 against Taskmaster, only to be thwarted by Daredevil and the Punisher. You can learn more about 218 00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:15,731 Spider-Man in his duel against Blue Beetle, Daredevil in his duel against Nightwing, Luke 219 00:20:15,791 --> 00:20:20,793 Cage in his duel against Thunder, Taskmaster in his duel against Prometheus, and Punisher 220 00:20:20,813 --> 00:20:25,542 in his duel against Red Hood. Over the years, Lincoln would continuously attempt to carve 221 00:20:25,582 --> 00:20:30,044 out his own empire. He was one of the many gang leaders present during the downfall of the 222 00:20:30,064 --> 00:20:35,825 Kingpin attempting to claim a portion of Wilson Fisk's empire. Tombstone also formed alliances 223 00:20:35,865 --> 00:20:40,847 with the Hood's criminal army, flashing with Mr. Negative in a bid for power. However, he 224 00:20:40,887 --> 00:20:46,649 was repeatedly thwarted by Spider-Man and other heroes, leading to multiple incarcerations. 225 00:20:46,669 --> 00:20:51,728 Tombstone's personal life remained complex. He had a daughter, Janice Lincoln, whom he 226 00:20:51,768 --> 00:20:56,612 trained in crime and deception from an early age. Although he hoped she would use her cunning 227 00:20:56,652 --> 00:21:01,697 for financial gain as a lawyer, she instead chose to become the supervillain Beetle, much 228 00:21:01,737 --> 00:21:06,422 to his frustration. His relationship with Robbie Robertson also took an unexpected turn when 229 00:21:06,482 --> 00:21:11,787 Janice began dating Robbie's son, Randy. This forced the two lifelong enemies into an uneasy 230 00:21:11,827 --> 00:21:17,031 truce to avoid interfering in their children's lives. Tombstone's reputation as an unbreakable 231 00:21:17,071 --> 00:21:21,395 enforcer was put to the test when he was shot at his daughter's wedding, revealing that his 232 00:21:21,455 --> 00:21:27,340 bulletproof durability had diminished over time. This attack ignited a gang war as Tombstone's 233 00:21:27,380 --> 00:21:33,244 rival saw his vulnerability as an opportunity to seize his criminal empire. Despite his injuries, 234 00:21:33,385 --> 00:21:38,369 he remained active in the ongoing conflict, working to reclaim lost territory and eliminate 235 00:21:38,469 --> 00:21:43,493 his challengers. His conflicts with Spider-Man persisted as the wall-crawler frequently disrupted 236 00:21:43,533 --> 00:21:48,207 his operations. Tombstone was also targeted by law enforcement, including detective Yuri 237 00:21:48,227 --> 00:21:52,789 Watanabe, the vigilante known as Wraith, who sought justice after he critically injured 238 00:21:52,909 --> 00:21:57,831 one of her colleagues. Despite being temporarily imprisoned, Tombstone leveraged his deep-rooted 239 00:21:57,851 --> 00:22:03,813 connections to manipulate the legal system and escape. Powers-wise, Tombstone's body was physically 240 00:22:03,833 --> 00:22:08,415 enhanced through the DIOX-3 chemical, which grants him enough strength to lift around 6 241 00:22:08,455 --> 00:22:13,717 tons, as well as give him increased durability with Stoneheart skin and increased resistance 242 00:22:13,757 --> 00:22:19,007 to toxins. He's a skilled marksman with his commonly used twin pistols, and he's a highly 243 00:22:19,047 --> 00:22:24,148 experienced street fighter. And that's Tombstone. So was it never explained why all of a sudden 244 00:22:24,188 --> 00:22:29,650 he was able to be shot despite prior to that having like rock hard skin? Yeah, that was 245 00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:35,532 during a time when his powers were temporarily diminished. But traditionally, the character 246 00:22:35,732 --> 00:22:41,013 is known for having stone skin, and that's how he'll be portrayed in this match. OK, convenient. 247 00:22:42,702 --> 00:22:48,526 Blockbuster doesn't normally carry guns. He's a weapon unto himself essentially. Although 248 00:22:48,546 --> 00:22:52,649 you would think he would, it would make his life a lot easier. Let me get into Blockbuster's 249 00:22:52,669 --> 00:23:00,214 history. Now Mark Desmond, a frail yet brilliant chemist, devoted himself to developing a serum 250 00:23:00,494 --> 00:23:05,978 that would grant him immense physical power. His experiments proved successful, drastically 251 00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:12,310 increasing his strength, durability, and size, but at the cost of his intellect. The transformation 252 00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:17,873 left him barely capable of coherent speech, however, turning him into a mindless brute. 253 00:23:18,434 --> 00:23:23,757 His older brother, Roland Desmond, who possessed a criminal mind and ambitions of wealth and 254 00:23:23,797 --> 00:23:29,040 power, took advantage of Mark's new condition. Shielding their mother from the truth about 255 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:35,264 Mark's monstrous transformation, Roland manipulated his brother into committing crimes on his behalf. 256 00:23:35,665 --> 00:23:40,408 Operating in Gotham City, It wasn't long before the Desmond brothers caught the attention of 257 00:23:40,468 --> 00:23:45,492 Batman and Robin, who you can learn more about in their duels against Moon Knight and Daredevil, 258 00:23:45,553 --> 00:23:51,958 respectively. Mark's rampages made him a formidable opponent, but Batman discovered a way to pacify 259 00:23:52,018 --> 00:23:58,323 him. Years earlier, Bruce Wayne had rescued Mark from drowning in quicksand. When Batman 260 00:23:58,383 --> 00:24:03,948 removed his cowl to reveal his face, the sight of Bruce triggered a memory in Mark of the 261 00:24:03,988 --> 00:24:09,492 man who had once saved him. momentarily calming the beast and preventing further destruction. 262 00:24:09,972 --> 00:24:15,015 After multiple encounters with Batman, Mark was ultimately set to the Alfred Foundation 263 00:24:15,055 --> 00:24:21,058 for treatment, where scientists unsuccessfully attempted to find a way to reverse his condition. 264 00:24:21,518 --> 00:24:27,181 Seeking solace, Mark began living a life of isolation, though his mind was easily influenced. 265 00:24:27,702 --> 00:24:33,705 The Outsider, an enemy of Batman, manipulated Mark into fighting the Dark Knight again, but 266 00:24:33,745 --> 00:24:40,312 Batman once more at- but Batman once more outwitted his foe. After his defeat, Mark was transferred 267 00:24:40,392 --> 00:24:46,394 to Star Labs for further treatment. The scientists there attempted to use radiation therapy to 268 00:24:46,414 --> 00:24:52,416 restore his original mind, but the experiment failed, seemingly killing him. Mark was buried 269 00:24:52,476 --> 00:24:58,419 in Gotham Cemetery, though it was later revealed that his death was a sham. Mark had been revived 270 00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:04,321 and left the city, eventually finding work in a West Virginia mining town. He lived there 271 00:25:04,401 --> 00:25:10,982 in peace, until Batman tracked him down. Initially enraged at the sight of Batman, Mark's aggression 272 00:25:11,022 --> 00:25:16,427 was neutralized when his fellow miners became trapped in a cave-in. Working together, Batman 273 00:25:16,447 --> 00:25:22,152 and Mark rescued them, and Mark helped capture the men responsible for the disaster. Recognizing 274 00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:27,016 that Mark had found a life where he could do no harm, Batman allowed him to stay in the 275 00:25:27,056 --> 00:25:32,640 town rather than return him to Gotham. However, Mark would later be recruited into Amanda Waller's 276 00:25:32,821 --> 00:25:39,265 suicide squad, and sent to fight the powerful entity known as Brimstone. During the battle, 277 00:25:39,686 --> 00:25:46,290 Brimstone burned Mark alive, killing him. Following Mark's death, his brother Roland Desvend, now 278 00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:52,815 suffering from a rare genetic disorder, sought a cure for his deteriorating condition. Turning 279 00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:59,880 to experimental steroids similar to his brother's serum, Roland transformed into the second Blockbuster, 280 00:26:00,321 --> 00:26:06,759 possessing immense strength. by suffering the same intellectual deterioration as Mark. However, 281 00:26:06,919 --> 00:26:12,700 unlike his brother, Roland regained his intelligence after striking a deal with the demon Neuron, 282 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:19,142 who enhanced his mind in exchange for his soul. With his newfound intellect and strength, Roland 283 00:26:19,202 --> 00:26:24,824 sought to carve out his own criminal empire. He moved to Bluthaven, a city riddled with 284 00:26:24,864 --> 00:26:31,065 corruption, and systemically eliminated rival crime bosses to establish himself as its undisputed 285 00:26:31,165 --> 00:26:37,523 ruler. His rise to power coincided with Nightwing's arrival in the city, and the two clashed with 286 00:26:37,583 --> 00:26:43,805 Nightwing working to dismantle Roland's operations. After years of conflict, Roland's body began 287 00:26:43,845 --> 00:26:50,407 to suffer from the strain of his immense bulk, developing albinism and a heart condition as 288 00:26:50,467 --> 00:26:56,668 side effects of his treatments. Seeking a cure, he traveled to Gorilla City, where he underwent 289 00:26:56,768 --> 00:27:04,843 a heart transplant to prolong his life. He launched a personal vendetta against Nightwing, systematically 290 00:27:04,903 --> 00:27:10,404 targeting the people closest to him, orchestrating attacks against Nightwing's allies and loved 291 00:27:10,524 --> 00:27:15,886 ones, and working to break him mentally and emotionally. During their final confrontation, 292 00:27:16,266 --> 00:27:22,288 a new vigilante known as Tarantula intervened. With Nightwing exhausted and psychologically 293 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:27,829 shattered, she executed Blockbuster in front of him. The police investigation into Roland's 294 00:27:27,869 --> 00:27:33,264 death was minimal, and his criminal empire quickly crumbled in the wake of his murder. However, 295 00:27:33,304 --> 00:27:38,887 during the events of Blackest Night, Roland was resurrected as a Black Lantern and returned 296 00:27:38,947 --> 00:27:44,570 to Gotham City alongside other undead villains. He and other Black Lanterns were ultimately 297 00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:50,213 defeated, however, and his corpse returned to rest. After the Flash created a Flashpoint 298 00:27:50,273 --> 00:27:56,877 event that reset DC's continuity, Mark Desmond was reintroduced as a test subject for a mysterious 299 00:27:56,917 --> 00:28:02,960 doctor named Fane. Undergoing procedures meant to enhance his intelligence, Mark was exposed 300 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,723 to an overdose of a chemical compound that transformed him into a hulking brew. Rampaging through 301 00:28:08,763 --> 00:28:14,206 Washington, D.C., he came into conflict with Hawk and Dove before being subdued by Batman 302 00:28:14,306 --> 00:28:18,949 and Robin. You can learn more about Hawk and Dove in our Hawk and Dove versus Northstar 303 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:25,293 and Aurora episode. Later, Mark became a member of the Secret Society, an organization of supervillains 304 00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:30,551 assembled by the Crime Syndicate. He was sent to battle Lex Luthor's Injustice League during 305 00:28:30,571 --> 00:28:36,393 the crime syndicate's reign over Earth. Roland Desmond also resurfaced, also taking on the 306 00:28:36,433 --> 00:28:42,536 mantle of Blockbuster, though his version maintained his intelligence without requiring a deal with 307 00:28:42,636 --> 00:28:48,218 Neuron. He became the leader of Bloodhaven's criminal underworld, positioning himself as 308 00:28:48,318 --> 00:28:54,280 Nightwing's primary adversary. After Dick Grayson publicly revealed himself to be a billionaire 309 00:28:54,641 --> 00:29:00,783 and pledged to rebuild Bloodhaven, Roland saw him as a threat to his control. He attempted 310 00:29:00,803 --> 00:29:06,986 to have Dick assassinated, but failed, as multiple superheroes came to Dick's aid. When Blockbuster 311 00:29:07,006 --> 00:29:12,548 sought to personally kill Dick, he attacked the Haven Community Center, leading to a climactic 312 00:29:12,568 --> 00:29:18,010 battle with Nightwing. During the fight, Roland knocked off Nightwing's mask and discovered 313 00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:24,193 his secret identity. Despite this revelation, Nightwing defeated Roland in combat. His grip 314 00:29:24,273 --> 00:29:29,068 over Blewd Haven soon collapsed, and his own henchmen turned against him when they learned 315 00:29:29,088 --> 00:29:33,872 of Blockbuster's corrupt dealings with the private prison. Fleeing into the city's back alleys, 316 00:29:34,132 --> 00:29:39,076 Blockbuster encountered the villain Heartless, who had been targeting powerful individuals 317 00:29:39,196 --> 00:29:45,481 in Bloodhaven. Heartless killed Roland, taking his heart as a trophy, and unknowingly ensuring 318 00:29:45,741 --> 00:29:50,845 that the seeker of Nightwing's identity died with him. Now powers-wise, both versions of 319 00:29:50,905 --> 00:29:57,186 Blockbuster possess immense superhuman strength, durability, and stamina. capable of lifting 320 00:29:57,326 --> 00:30:03,268 several tons. Blockbuster is also a formidable hand-to-hand combatant, and the Roland version, 321 00:30:03,448 --> 00:30:09,651 which is the version I'm going with, is a criminal mastermind. That's Blockbuster. Okay, so I 322 00:30:09,671 --> 00:30:14,573 mentioned earlier that I wasn't really too familiar with the character of Blockbuster, having never 323 00:30:14,673 --> 00:30:21,096 read any stories with him, and after that bio, I'm kinda glad, because that was boring. Okay, 324 00:30:21,256 --> 00:30:27,144 same with Tombstone, like who gives a shit? Tombstone at least looks cool. Okay, Blockbuster 325 00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:32,496 is not a character that looks cool. Spoken like someone incapable of rocking a mullet. That's 326 00:30:32,536 --> 00:30:36,985 exactly what a jealous non-mullet person would say. Fair enough. 327 00:30:43,918 --> 00:30:49,580 Where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 328 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,322 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 329 00:30:55,382 --> 00:31:01,065 Dynomic Podcast Network presents Konsole Kombat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. 330 00:31:03,182 --> 00:31:09,825 Comic Book Titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where TV and action heroes battle every Wednesday. 331 00:31:10,385 --> 00:31:16,308 And Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on 332 00:31:16,328 --> 00:31:22,031 the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, discover who will emerge victorious. 333 00:31:22,551 --> 00:31:26,833 Visit dynamicpodcast.com where we settle the debate and settle the score. 334 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:34,992 Now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one 335 00:31:35,012 --> 00:31:40,935 of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not this speculation, 336 00:31:41,355 --> 00:31:46,678 but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? 337 00:31:47,579 --> 00:31:51,581 Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge 338 00:31:51,621 --> 00:31:56,003 of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other 339 00:31:56,043 --> 00:32:00,870 character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation... The contestants will 340 00:32:00,890 --> 00:32:06,214 begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that will have no bearing on the 341 00:32:06,254 --> 00:32:11,599 match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants 342 00:32:11,639 --> 00:32:17,163 must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then let's get into it! Blockbuster and Tombstone 343 00:32:17,203 --> 00:32:22,808 meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna say Tombstone goes first because he has 344 00:32:22,968 --> 00:32:30,346 guns. So with this like creepy ass smile, he's gonna brandish his two pistols. like spinning 345 00:32:30,386 --> 00:32:35,407 them up and pointing them right at Blockbuster before smoking that fool like it ain't no thing. 346 00:32:35,427 --> 00:32:42,309 I mean, that's like firing handguns at a charging rhino, though, because once Blockbuster sees 347 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:46,790 Tombstone brandish those guns, he's going to know that he needs to close the gap between 348 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:52,232 them. And he probably figures that his imposing size would probably make him like physically 349 00:32:52,292 --> 00:32:58,333 superior to Tombstone. So Blockbuster, he's going to rush Tombstone and get tagged a few 350 00:32:58,373 --> 00:33:03,668 times. with bullets, sure, but it's nothing serious enough to stop him from grabbing Tombstone's 351 00:33:03,708 --> 00:33:08,831 guns and just hurling them towards the horizon. But wait, what makes you think Tombstone's 352 00:33:08,851 --> 00:33:14,834 guns are that easy to grab? Like, Tombstone's known for his unbreakable grip, right? So like, 353 00:33:15,335 --> 00:33:20,637 Blockbuster tries to snatch Tombstone's guns from his hands, but Tombstone's gonna use that 354 00:33:20,717 --> 00:33:25,660 moment to straight up kick Blockbuster right in his Nard sack. And when Blockbuster drops 355 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:30,411 to his knees in front of him because of the pain... Tombstone is just gonna pistol whip 356 00:33:30,431 --> 00:33:37,955 him right across the face. No dude, Blockbuster, he has balls of steel. So he just no sells 357 00:33:38,175 --> 00:33:43,698 that cheap nut shot. And while he's grabbing Tombstone's guns, he's gonna crush the metal 358 00:33:43,798 --> 00:33:50,362 barrels in his hands. Just rendering them useless. Before headbutting Tombstone right in the face, 359 00:33:50,902 --> 00:33:55,965 knocking him backward. Headbutting Tombstone is like the last thing you want to do. Because 360 00:33:56,225 --> 00:34:01,488 one... Tombstone's head is as durable as a stone, so it's gonna be like headbutting a rock. And 361 00:34:01,568 --> 00:34:09,674 two, Tombstone has sharp ass teeth, so as Blockbuster's like reeling from giving himself a concussion, 362 00:34:10,114 --> 00:34:14,036 Tombstone's gonna bite one of Blockbuster's eyes just straight out of his head, and then 363 00:34:14,056 --> 00:34:20,681 he's gonna spit it out, just grinning real creepy like a shark. Ah! Ah, damn. Well, Blockbuster, 364 00:34:20,801 --> 00:34:27,157 he's pissed. And that's when he's gonna grab Tombstone by the legs and just start ragdolling 365 00:34:27,197 --> 00:34:32,082 him, slamming him into the ground repeatedly, like what the Hulk did to Loki in Avengers. 366 00:34:32,482 --> 00:34:38,547 Right, but again, Tombstone's rock hard, so this doesn't faze him too much. Yeah, dude. 367 00:34:38,867 --> 00:34:45,052 I don't wanna know that. His skin is as hard as a rock, is what I'm saying. So, you know, 368 00:34:45,092 --> 00:34:50,017 he's durable enough to handle this attack without being too hurt, and he's just gonna reach into 369 00:34:50,077 --> 00:34:56,123 one of his boots. and pull out a switchblade that he uses to reach up and shank Blockbuster 370 00:34:56,183 --> 00:35:01,225 right in the gut with. And that's when Blockbuster's just gonna yeet Tombstone, like, tossing him 371 00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:06,746 like half a block away. And he's gonna pull out the knife, which, thanks for the weapon, 372 00:35:07,406 --> 00:35:13,808 and he's gonna charge Tombstone and just slam right into him knife first. Right. Okay, but 373 00:35:13,828 --> 00:35:19,366 the knife is gonna break. Blockbuster is not a smart villain. Your mom's not a smart villain. 374 00:35:19,506 --> 00:35:25,208 And that's when Tombstone knees Blockbuster in the gut, you know, making him bend forward, 375 00:35:25,228 --> 00:35:29,689 and then Tombstone's gonna drop his elbow onto his head, and Blockbuster's gonna fall to the 376 00:35:29,729 --> 00:35:34,871 ground. And for his finishing move, Tombstone's gonna curb stomp the guy, like not in the figurative 377 00:35:34,911 --> 00:35:40,653 sense, but in the very literal sense, Tombstone's gonna curb stomp Blockbuster, cave his face 378 00:35:40,713 --> 00:35:47,015 in, and Tombstone wins the match. No, because when Blockbuster is on the ground and he sees 379 00:35:47,035 --> 00:35:51,277 that he's about to get his head kicked in, he's going to quickly sweep Tombstone's leg out 380 00:35:51,297 --> 00:35:55,579 from under him, and when he hits the ground, Blockbuster is just going to shove his fingers 381 00:35:56,059 --> 00:36:01,101 right through Tombstone's eyes, through his skull, into his brain, killing him, because 382 00:36:01,201 --> 00:36:05,883 I'm guessing his eyeballs aren't rock hard. Actually, that's, yeah, you would be correct 383 00:36:06,103 --> 00:36:10,805 in that assumption. But like, Blockbuster is missing an eye, so he's going an eye for an 384 00:36:10,905 --> 00:36:15,785 eye here. but Ni for Ni leaves the whole world blind. Yeah, Blockbuster probably does not 385 00:36:15,805 --> 00:36:22,690 give two shits about Gandhi. But we'll go ahead and leave the match there. Either Tombstone 386 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:27,734 curb stomps Blockbuster or Blockbuster jams his fingers into Tombstone's brain through 387 00:36:27,775 --> 00:36:32,699 his eyes. Two violent mobster characters, two violent ways to end this match. But let's see 388 00:36:32,739 --> 00:36:39,764 which one happens by running the stats. AJ9K, hit it! Inputting data, running calculations, 389 00:36:40,245 --> 00:36:46,942 processing results. Simulations complete. Yeah, that was pretty gruesome for sure. I figured 390 00:36:46,962 --> 00:36:50,604 this would be pretty visceral because these characters are pretty straightforward. You 391 00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:54,467 know, they're brawlers. Yeah, they're not going to hold back either. The stats were pretty 392 00:36:54,487 --> 00:36:59,771 interesting. Blockbuster is faster than Tombstone, even though Tombstone is pretty quick. Blockbuster, 393 00:36:59,991 --> 00:37:05,555 like you said, is like a rhino and can run really fast. Blockbuster is also smarter than Tombstone. 394 00:37:05,996 --> 00:37:12,459 Yeah, at least the version I went with is... The Mark version is super not smart, but the 395 00:37:12,499 --> 00:37:18,301 Roland version actually is very much so. We did, however, give the edge to Tombstone in 396 00:37:18,342 --> 00:37:23,724 regards to durability, saying he's slightly more durable than Blockbuster, but also in 397 00:37:23,764 --> 00:37:28,025 regards to versatility, which actually wasn't too surprising to me, considering Tombstone 398 00:37:28,386 --> 00:37:33,147 will bring weapons into fights. Yeah. And he also has his sharp teeth, which he used to 399 00:37:33,188 --> 00:37:38,730 like bite things off. Right. He's a biter. Right. But also because of his weapons. we gave the 400 00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:44,334 range edge to Tombstone as well. Yeah, otherwise, these characters were pretty much identical. 401 00:37:44,494 --> 00:37:48,677 You know, they had the same evasiveness. We said they're about the same strength level 402 00:37:48,877 --> 00:37:52,680 and had about the same fighting skill. So with all that said, Jonathan, who do you think is 403 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,624 winning this match? I'm hoping it's Blockbuster, although Instagram does not agree with me for 404 00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:04,828 the first time in a long time. The Marvel character is actually coming out ahead with Tombstone 405 00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:10,623 currently sitting at 51 percent. of the vote. Well, I'm glad to see that our Marvel Instagram 406 00:38:10,643 --> 00:38:15,805 fans are starting to show up for these polls, but that's still a little close guys. Like 407 00:38:16,105 --> 00:38:20,067 we really want to be dominating these polls. So if you're a Marvel fan, be sure to follow 408 00:38:20,107 --> 00:38:24,289 us on Instagram and then vote whenever Jonathan gets these polls up, you know, at the very 409 00:38:24,309 --> 00:38:29,071 last minute on Sundays when we record. Okay, that's fair. But let's get the final results 410 00:38:29,091 --> 00:38:35,633 of the match. AJ 9K, the results please. Hey, you are, sir. Okay, the winner of the duel. 411 00:38:36,362 --> 00:38:46,046 between Blockbuster and Tombstone is... Tombstone! Gosh dang it! It wasn't a total wipeout, I 412 00:38:46,066 --> 00:38:52,809 think the match was fairly close. Out of 1000 simulated battles, Tombstone won 592, whereas 413 00:38:52,849 --> 00:39:00,452 Blockbuster won 408. In the end, the determining factors largely were range and durability considering 414 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:08,765 Tombstone is rock hard. Ugh! What I just I'm just gonna keep saying that now I don't like 415 00:39:08,845 --> 00:39:13,908 it And I don't like the results of this match either. I gotta say well you could blame Miggy 416 00:39:13,928 --> 00:39:19,952 for that one. I think yeah, Miggy What are you doing? You're a DC fan. Come on. I'll say that 417 00:39:20,012 --> 00:39:24,575 thematically It was a good pitch for a dual matchup But yeah, the Marvel fans on the discord 418 00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:30,379 should all thank Miggy for his contribution to Marvel's win rate this week Miggy just stay 419 00:39:30,399 --> 00:39:36,428 off discord for a week just stay off of it But that does it for this duel, AJ9K help close 420 00:39:36,448 --> 00:39:43,128 this out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic Dual. Visit the show's website at dynamicdual.com 421 00:39:43,968 --> 00:39:49,672 and follow us on Instagram at dynamicdualpodcast. You can support the show on Patreon at patreon.com 422 00:39:50,092 --> 00:39:54,774 slash dynamicdual and joining a tier that works for you, or by rating and reviewing Dynamic 423 00:39:54,814 --> 00:40:00,478 Dual on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podchaser or on our website. Don't forget to listen to the 424 00:40:00,518 --> 00:40:05,741 other shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network, including Max Destruction, Senjow World and 425 00:40:05,781 --> 00:40:12,780 Konsole Kombat. Our next episode is going to be another duel episode in lead up to the Captain 426 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:17,363 America Brave New World review that we'll be doing in a few weeks. We're going to find out 427 00:40:17,423 --> 00:40:23,627 who would win in a fight between Red Hulk and General Wade Eiling, also known as the General. 428 00:40:24,027 --> 00:40:27,689 But that does it for this episode. We want to give a big thanks to our executive producers, 429 00:40:27,749 --> 00:40:32,471 Ken Johnson. John Swarovski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Balcom, Miggy Mathen-Geehan, Brandon 430 00:40:32,511 --> 00:40:37,754 Estregard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yaiten, Austin Wieselowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil 431 00:40:37,774 --> 00:40:43,477 Camacho, Adam Spees, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirstein, Josh Leiner, Mike Williams, 432 00:40:43,737 --> 00:40:48,559 and Oscar Galvez for helping to make this podcast possible. We'll talk to you guys next week. 433 00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:53,962 Up, up, and away, true believers. Hold the phone. I thought this was going to be a fight between 434 00:40:53,982 --> 00:40:56,863 a video store and frozen pizza. I want my money back.