1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,963 This is a DynaMic Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,334 --> 00:00:28,376 Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films 3 00:00:28,716 --> 00:00:33,259 and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters and stat-based 4 00:00:33,299 --> 00:00:39,403 battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And in this episode 5 00:00:39,423 --> 00:00:44,706 we're going to find out who would win in a fight between Kite Man and Stilt Man because I know 6 00:00:45,006 --> 00:00:49,629 everybody is wondering who would win. I have been wondering about this for as long as... 7 00:00:50,270 --> 00:00:54,873 A couple of months, ever since one of our executive producers, Mickey Methangean, thought up the 8 00:00:54,973 --> 00:00:59,537 idea. It's a fantastic idea. I can't believe we haven't thought of it sooner, and I can't 9 00:00:59,617 --> 00:01:03,240 wait to find out who's gonna win. Yeah, this episode is a tie-in to our next episode, which 10 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:09,405 is gonna be a review of Kite Man Hell Yeah Season 1 on Macs. This should be a fun one though, 11 00:01:09,485 --> 00:01:12,828 so look forward to that discussion later. Before that, we're gonna break down the latest comic 12 00:01:12,868 --> 00:01:19,033 book movie news to come out this past week, including the Joker Follyadoo That's Life trailer. 13 00:01:19,634 --> 00:01:23,097 As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check 14 00:01:23,137 --> 00:01:28,021 out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Guys, our artificially 15 00:01:28,061 --> 00:01:34,994 intelligent duel simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. 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Thanks AJ9K and thanks to 24 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:22,321 everyone who supports the podcast. We want to give a quick shout out to one of our patrons, 25 00:02:22,621 --> 00:02:27,976 Jacob Foster. Whose birthday was this past week? Happy birthday, Jacob. Happy birthday. If I 26 00:02:27,996 --> 00:02:33,700 could give you any gift from Marvel, I would give you Gambit's playing card deck because 27 00:02:34,161 --> 00:02:37,923 even though you don't have mutant powers to make them explode, you can still play cards 28 00:02:37,943 --> 00:02:42,547 with them. So yeah, it's fun. If I could get you anything from DC for your birthday, I would 29 00:02:42,567 --> 00:02:50,032 get you Ragman's cloak because your handle in our Discord server is Hypnotic Cape and that's 30 00:02:50,092 --> 00:02:55,127 pretty much a Hypnotic Cape. Happy birthday again, man, and thanks for being a patron. 31 00:02:55,427 --> 00:02:59,689 Yeah, thanks a bunch. Be sure to tune into the other shows on the DynaMic Podcast Network 32 00:02:59,709 --> 00:03:04,030 this week, including Max Destruction, which pits your favorite action heroes from film 33 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:08,873 and television against each other. This week, hosts Scotty and Gilly are breaking down a 34 00:03:09,113 --> 00:03:15,075 Robocop vs. Terminator matchup. On the Send Your World podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates 35 00:03:15,115 --> 00:03:20,458 on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. This Thursday... Zach will find 36 00:03:20,538 --> 00:03:26,183 out who would win in a fight between All Might from My Hero Academia and Mash Bernadette from 37 00:03:26,283 --> 00:03:31,107 Mashly. On the Console Combat podcast hosts Jon and Dean simulate battles between popular 38 00:03:31,167 --> 00:03:36,651 video game characters. In yesterday's episode, they released their first ever developer interview 39 00:03:36,711 --> 00:03:43,657 with Andrew Magazoo, the co-creator of the upcoming game Vigilante Combat Round 1. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com 40 00:03:44,237 --> 00:03:48,881 or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast 41 00:03:48,981 --> 00:03:56,144 Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel 42 00:03:56,184 --> 00:04:01,627 used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award that we post 43 00:04:01,667 --> 00:04:06,289 on Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. 44 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:13,032 Last week, we asked, Do you think this should or shouldn't be Eddie Brock's and Venom's last 45 00:04:13,072 --> 00:04:19,607 appearance in Sony's Spider-Man universe, and why? And that was in reference to the Venom 46 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:23,330 The Last Dance movie. We got a lot of answers. Let's go ahead and break down our honorable 47 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:29,334 mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Scott Camacho. 48 00:04:29,654 --> 00:04:37,459 Who said? Probably channeling my twin brother through me and the Marvel is coming out. This 49 00:04:37,479 --> 00:04:46,045 should be their last appearance in the Sonyverse. Why? Because it's going nowhere. You guys want 50 00:04:46,105 --> 00:04:53,081 him in... the Spider-Man and Disney side, right? So yeah, they should end their last dance and 51 00:04:53,141 --> 00:04:59,246 hop over there. For sure, yeah. Similar to how Spider-Man allegedly kind of straddles between 52 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:03,649 the Sony Spider-Man universe and the MCU, even though that's not really the case because Spider-Man 53 00:05:03,949 --> 00:05:09,272 only shows up in the MCU films, maybe Sony and Marvel can make a deal for Venom so that he 54 00:05:09,292 --> 00:05:15,677 can also show up with the other MCU characters and no longer be confined to this Sony verse 55 00:05:15,757 --> 00:05:21,116 limbo that he's in. Yeah, otherwise like Scotty said, it's leading nowhere. It does make sense 56 00:05:21,156 --> 00:05:26,939 for Venom to be in the Spider-Man universe considering he's a Spider-Man character. I guess a good 57 00:05:26,979 --> 00:05:31,341 question is what do you consider the Spider-Man universe? Well, the MCU, the universe that 58 00:05:31,561 --> 00:05:36,424 the Spider-Man character exists in. Okay, okay. Great answer Scotty. Our next honorable mention 59 00:05:36,464 --> 00:05:41,655 goes to Travis Herndon, who said... What's up, Dunnaamadoos? Travis here, shout out to my 60 00:05:41,695 --> 00:05:47,180 evil twin. So my answer would be yes. Why? Because it's finally time for this man to come home. 61 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,485 Home. Eddie and Venom need to be in the MCU. Me and you. Everybody and their grandmas want 62 00:05:53,525 --> 00:05:59,870 these two to be in the MCU. Finally meet Spider-Man. Team up with him. Fight him. We don't care. 63 00:06:00,671 --> 00:06:06,336 It's time for this guy to leave the loser table and come join and sit with the cool kids now. 64 00:06:06,836 --> 00:06:12,235 If they made a fourth Venom movie. with Tom Hardy and brought him into the MCU. What do 65 00:06:12,255 --> 00:06:15,776 you think the name of that movie should be called? Should it be called Venom Homecoming? Ha ha 66 00:06:16,896 --> 00:06:20,817 ha. Venom, there's no place like home. That sounds a little bit more apt according to the 67 00:06:20,857 --> 00:06:25,879 naming conventions that they've been going with for this Venom Sony franchise. Just like dumb? 68 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:32,681 Yeah, exactly. Ha ha ha. Great answer, Travis. Our next honorable mention goes to Cyrus Moore. 69 00:06:33,081 --> 00:06:38,920 Who said? Hey guys, Cyrus Moore here. Um, I believe the only answer to this question is 70 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:45,084 yes. They are absolutely wasting Tom Hardy's time. He needs to come back to DC where he'll 71 00:06:45,104 --> 00:06:51,448 be treated with the love and care and respect of the world-class actor he is. Um, I mean, 72 00:06:51,548 --> 00:06:57,052 obviously Sony doesn't know how to make a movie. Marvel would just waste his time. So he needs 73 00:06:57,072 --> 00:07:03,957 to come back to DC already. Yeah. Tom Hardy's turn as Bane was a tour de force. Like you 74 00:07:03,977 --> 00:07:10,092 can make fun of it. But the fact that he was able to pull that off and be almost unrecognizable 75 00:07:10,212 --> 00:07:18,117 as he did it is just a testament to how solid of an actor he is. I was born in the shadows. 76 00:07:21,254 --> 00:07:25,978 Yeah he was, yeah he was. I'm sure there are a lot of roles that Tom Hardy could pull off 77 00:07:26,038 --> 00:07:31,442 in the new DCU considering you know he's a bigger guy and he's a big name but I think a lot more 78 00:07:31,482 --> 00:07:36,125 people would want him to come to the Marvel universe just because people know that Marvel 79 00:07:36,165 --> 00:07:43,170 is better. So no one knows that. Kevin Feige could easily recast Eddie Brock for the MCU 80 00:07:43,731 --> 00:07:48,042 so you don't know what you're talking about. Like fans would not even care. Well, who would 81 00:07:48,082 --> 00:07:55,266 you cast Tom Hardy as in the DCU? Ooh, good question. Would Tom Hardy make a good Constantine? 82 00:07:56,027 --> 00:08:02,510 Oh shit, probably. Yeah, probably would. I could see that, totally. Just like a chain smoking 83 00:08:02,650 --> 00:08:07,433 foul mouthed magician just to make his hair like dirty blonde and messy. Totally, I could 84 00:08:07,493 --> 00:08:12,576 see that. He gives off heavy vibes of like, don't give a fuck, you know? Yeah. That's actually 85 00:08:12,616 --> 00:08:17,163 pretty solid. Great answer, Cyrus Moore. We want to give a quick shout out to Daniel Alonzo 86 00:08:17,243 --> 00:08:22,226 for also taking the time to visit our website and record an answer. But the winner of this 87 00:08:22,246 --> 00:08:27,509 week's No Prize is Mason Thompson. Who said? This is Mason Thompson again, you know, I just 88 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:34,794 gotta keep these answers going. Um, I do feel like he's a good actor for the thing he, for 89 00:08:34,854 --> 00:08:39,917 the movie. He took a good funny approach to Venom, but I feel like he got dragged through 90 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:44,311 the mud in the second one. But it'd also be cool to see him, whatever they do with the 91 00:08:44,351 --> 00:08:48,612 Sonyverse. I feel like the Sonyverse is kind of in shambles. So I feel like if they get 92 00:08:48,632 --> 00:08:53,254 rid of Venom, it's just going to go all down the drain, you know. Yeah, Mason was the only 93 00:08:53,555 --> 00:08:58,817 responder who said that maybe Venom and Eddie Brock should stay in Sony's Spider-Man universe 94 00:08:59,117 --> 00:09:03,339 and have another movie. We're not saying we necessarily agree, but we did think that his 95 00:09:03,459 --> 00:09:09,061 answer was unique in the argument that it gave. It's highly likely due to the deals that Sony 96 00:09:09,101 --> 00:09:14,616 keeps making with Marvel. that Sony is going to retain the rights for Spider-Man pretty 97 00:09:14,636 --> 00:09:19,779 much indefinitely. So if the Sony Spider-Man universe is going to forever be a thing without 98 00:09:19,799 --> 00:09:24,762 the Venom films, it'll likely fall into shambles. Is that something that we want? Yes, 100%, 99 00:09:25,483 --> 00:09:31,987 absolutely. But is it something that is good for the superhero genre as a whole and will 100 00:09:32,027 --> 00:09:37,222 it eventually lead to Sony selling the rights to Marvel? Probably not. Yeah, there's still 101 00:09:37,262 --> 00:09:41,745 always the option that Andrew Garfield could come in and be the Spider-Man for Tom Hardy. 102 00:09:42,145 --> 00:09:47,269 You know, so I could see them continuing this universe and not necessarily transferring Kim 103 00:09:47,289 --> 00:09:53,132 to the MCU. And it could still end up good, like good in a way that fans feel is good. 104 00:09:53,573 --> 00:09:58,496 At this point, anything still possible? We'll see how Venom the Last Dance performs at the 105 00:09:58,516 --> 00:10:03,149 box office and let the conjecture go from there. But congrats again to Mason Thompson for winning 106 00:10:03,169 --> 00:10:07,477 this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned 107 00:10:07,497 --> 00:10:11,485 to later on this episode when we'll be asking another Question of the Week. And now that 108 00:10:11,525 --> 00:10:13,449 that's done, on to the news! 109 00:10:18,926 --> 00:10:26,291 Okay, this past week we got a new trailer for Joker Folly do the sequel to 2019's Joker film. 110 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:32,355 I'm not sure if this is the final trailer. It probably is since the movie comes out pretty 111 00:10:32,395 --> 00:10:37,118 soon here in just a couple of weeks actually. I would consider this definitely to be a hey 112 00:10:37,178 --> 00:10:42,081 tickets are now on sale. Here's where all the critics are raving about type trailer. So yeah, 113 00:10:42,402 --> 00:10:47,905 it's akin to a final trailer. And I thought it was a fantastic trailer. I liked this trailer. 114 00:10:48,398 --> 00:10:53,462 more than the last trailer that we got. I would agree. Yeah. Actually, you know, what's interesting 115 00:10:53,502 --> 00:10:58,286 is the first time I watched this trailer, I was at work and so I couldn't watch it with 116 00:10:58,326 --> 00:11:03,810 the audio on. And it just struck me how powerful all the images were. The cinematography on 117 00:11:03,850 --> 00:11:10,215 this thing is so fantastic. Oh, yeah. And the shots were so compelling. I remember thinking 118 00:11:10,315 --> 00:11:14,719 as I was watching it, it looks like it's going to be really good. But I'm not holding my breath 119 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:19,915 because a lot of the reviews that have been coming in since the review embargo has lifted 120 00:11:19,955 --> 00:11:26,399 for the film have portrayed it as like a middling movie. Well, it's currently resting at a like 121 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:31,762 low 60s Rotten Tomatoes score with about 50 reviews, but that doesn't really bother me 122 00:11:31,942 --> 00:11:37,485 because the first Joker film is sitting in the 60s for its Rotten Tomatoes score and a lot 123 00:11:37,505 --> 00:11:41,608 of these reviews came out of the film's premiere at the Venice Film Festival where the first 124 00:11:41,648 --> 00:11:46,795 film did fantastic, ended up taking the Golden Lion. The sequel didn't do as well, but I think 125 00:11:46,835 --> 00:11:51,698 that was because it didn't meet the expectations of a lot of critics in terms of what the film 126 00:11:51,758 --> 00:11:57,941 actually was. Like it's being sold as this musical, but apparently it's barely a musical. So I 127 00:11:57,982 --> 00:12:02,204 saw a lot of critics mentioning that. That doesn't bother me. I know a lot of people have been 128 00:12:02,244 --> 00:12:07,227 complaining about the musical aspect to begin with. So, I don't know. I still think it's 129 00:12:07,247 --> 00:12:11,109 going to be a really good film. I'm not sure if it's going to be as good as the first, but... 130 00:12:11,594 --> 00:12:17,296 That Rot Tomato score does not scare me, especially after a trailer like this. I feel like this 131 00:12:17,316 --> 00:12:23,819 gives us a lot of Arthur Fleck as the Joker, more so than we've seen in previous trailers. 132 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:29,161 Like when he's talking to his friend on the witness stand, when he's watching Kirby Dent 133 00:12:29,441 --> 00:12:33,282 talk about him on the television, when he's being carried up to his cell and he's like, 134 00:12:33,363 --> 00:12:39,165 Oh, I'm in trouble. It's great to see Joaquin Phoenix play the role that got him an Oscar 135 00:12:39,205 --> 00:12:43,527 the last time he portrayed the role. I think he's going to do phenomenal. I think Lady Gaga 136 00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:47,490 is going to do phenomenal. We get to hear her sing for the first time in this trailer. That's 137 00:12:47,550 --> 00:12:52,994 life. And it's a great rendition. It almost sounds like Amy Winehouse. It's fantastic. 138 00:12:53,034 --> 00:12:58,718 But the thing that really sold me on this trailer is actually the different blurbs that we get 139 00:12:58,738 --> 00:13:06,083 to see from various reviews that have described the film in ways like cinematic dynaMic deranged 140 00:13:06,183 --> 00:13:11,578 and exciting, a surreal work of art. It's like... Anytime these things popped up on screen, I'm 141 00:13:11,638 --> 00:13:16,381 just like, yes, please. Yes, please. Hey, you think that you'd be checking your expectations 142 00:13:16,681 --> 00:13:23,465 by this point, though? You would think. Um, but it's the Joker. Like, I just watched the 143 00:13:23,525 --> 00:13:28,888 first film again a couple of weeks ago and man, that film still holds up the cinematography, 144 00:13:28,948 --> 00:13:35,031 the acting, the direction. It's so, so good. And I'm really looking forward to this movie. 145 00:13:35,191 --> 00:13:41,114 Like I cannot be sold enough. I thought, and then this trailer comes out and I'm like, I 146 00:13:41,134 --> 00:13:46,879 could only be so sold, you know? The movie's not gonna be, you know, Deadpool and Wolverine, 147 00:13:47,019 --> 00:13:50,622 but I'm sure it'll be fine. We'll find out in a few weeks, I guess. I know, it's gonna be 148 00:13:50,722 --> 00:13:54,405 nothing like that. It's gonna be way better, like a work of art, right? Deadpool and Wolverine 149 00:13:54,465 --> 00:13:59,089 was like a work of art. Thank you very much. Yeah, for Marvel fans, go read the back of 150 00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:03,192 a cereal box. Hey, you better watch yourself the way you talk to us, because the next thing 151 00:14:03,212 --> 00:14:07,396 you know, this movie's gonna bomb and we're all gonna laugh at you and then slap the shit 152 00:14:07,416 --> 00:14:12,804 out of you. But hey, if everyone's laughing... I mean, didn't the movie do its trick? No. 153 00:14:12,824 --> 00:14:18,348 Okay. But considering the musical nature of this film and the fact that Lady Gaga has been 154 00:14:18,368 --> 00:14:23,513 cast as Harley Quinn, and it seems to be a great casting choice, that brings us to our question 155 00:14:23,533 --> 00:14:23,953 of the week. 156 00:14:28,482 --> 00:14:35,525 What musician would you cast as a live action Marvel or DC character? And what character 157 00:14:35,545 --> 00:14:41,529 would that be? Jared Leto as the Joker. Can't do that. You can't do Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn. 158 00:14:41,549 --> 00:14:47,872 You have to do something original. No fucking Gavin Rosedale as some demon character or anything 159 00:14:47,892 --> 00:14:52,615 like that. Alright. Record your answer guys at dynamictool.com by clicking on the red microphone 160 00:14:52,675 --> 00:14:56,377 button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a 161 00:14:56,417 --> 00:15:00,713 voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in 162 00:15:00,753 --> 00:15:05,257 case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a 163 00:15:05,317 --> 00:15:10,761 Dynamic Duel No prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before September 28th. 164 00:15:17,966 --> 00:15:21,011 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and get into 165 00:15:21,051 --> 00:15:25,359 our main event, where we find out who would win in a fight between the Batman villain, 166 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,445 Kite Man, and the Daredevil villain, Stilt Man. 167 00:15:43,562 --> 00:15:47,783 Alright, Kite Man versus Stilt Man. This is a Batman villain versus a Daredevil villain. 168 00:15:48,443 --> 00:15:53,664 And both of them are largely regarded as jokes, I think, within their respective comic book 169 00:15:53,704 --> 00:15:58,246 universes. They're not very successful. They're kind of known for being losers, but they kind 170 00:15:58,266 --> 00:16:01,667 of have endearing qualities to them just in kind of like the ridiculous nature of their 171 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:08,909 powers, right? Kite Man uses fucking kites to perform acts of villainy. And Stilt Man walks 172 00:16:08,989 --> 00:16:13,650 on fucking stilts. Like what the hell is going on here? This is ridiculous, but I'm also here 173 00:16:13,690 --> 00:16:19,294 for it. Yeah, the concepts that these characters chose to base their villainous theme on is 174 00:16:19,394 --> 00:16:25,197 pretty ridiculous and absurd. But interestingly enough, these two characters are kind of like 175 00:16:25,277 --> 00:16:32,261 masters of the sky. So with that and the ridiculous natures, I think this is a fantastic matchup 176 00:16:32,301 --> 00:16:37,203 and one that I've been looking forward to doing ever since the concept was first introduced. 177 00:16:37,404 --> 00:16:41,610 I'm actually really glad that Kite Man ended up getting his own show. because otherwise 178 00:16:41,630 --> 00:16:45,811 we may never have done this episode because these characters are just so ridiculous and 179 00:16:45,851 --> 00:16:49,452 obscure. Yeah, we're kind of scratching the bottom of the barrel here, but I actually think 180 00:16:49,492 --> 00:16:54,333 these characters are renowned for being like D-listers, you know? Yeah, they're infamous. 181 00:16:54,553 --> 00:16:58,014 Let's go ahead and get into their backstories. To explain the methodology behind our duels, 182 00:16:58,315 --> 00:17:04,336 let's go to our sentient duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you 183 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:09,846 go about determining a winner in our duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a 184 00:17:09,886 --> 00:17:14,687 winner between the contestants is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters 185 00:17:14,727 --> 00:17:20,289 statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random 186 00:17:20,349 --> 00:17:26,190 sampling. In this case, I randomise the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate 187 00:17:26,210 --> 00:17:30,811 the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official 188 00:17:30,851 --> 00:17:34,953 Marvel power grid from which the DC characters statistics are extrapolated. 189 00:17:38,402 --> 00:17:43,525 damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate 190 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:48,950 simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. 191 00:17:49,390 --> 00:17:53,973 The contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor as they have a higher probability 192 00:17:54,014 --> 00:17:59,838 to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. 193 00:18:00,338 --> 00:18:04,822 The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman. So 194 00:18:04,842 --> 00:18:08,725 the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established 195 00:18:08,765 --> 00:18:14,310 in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are 196 00:18:14,350 --> 00:18:18,754 not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner. 197 00:18:20,215 --> 00:18:25,039 Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's histories 198 00:18:25,059 --> 00:18:30,724 and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations 199 00:18:30,744 --> 00:18:36,228 would play out beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go first with the DC characters 200 00:18:36,249 --> 00:18:42,454 backstory, so let me tell you all about Kite Man. The Charles Chuck Brown had a fascination 201 00:18:42,474 --> 00:18:48,519 with kites from a young age. His childhood hobby of flying kites soon evolved into an obsession, 202 00:18:48,879 --> 00:18:54,344 and as he grew older, his obsession began to shape his life in unexpected ways. Rather than 203 00:18:54,384 --> 00:19:00,349 pursue a conventional career, Chuck turned to crime. Using his love of kites and his knack 204 00:19:00,369 --> 00:19:05,835 for engineering, He developed a series of specialized kite-themed weapons and gadgets, crafting an 205 00:19:05,915 --> 00:19:11,478 identity that would strike fear, or at least confusion, into the hearts of Gotham citizens 206 00:19:11,838 --> 00:19:17,280 as the criminal known as Kite Man. Bram designed a large kite that he strapped to his back, 207 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:22,702 allowing him to glide through the air and escape from crime scenes swiftly. Armed with a variety 208 00:19:22,742 --> 00:19:28,444 of kites, from tear gas emitting kites to large kite planes, Chuck launched a crime spree across 209 00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:35,604 Gotham City. by using tear gas released from one of his kites to disorient security during 210 00:19:35,644 --> 00:19:41,707 a high-profile robbery, during which he stole a valuable ruby. With this kite-themed technology, 211 00:19:42,028 --> 00:19:47,511 he not only managed to evade the authorities, but also freed a mobster from prison using 212 00:19:47,551 --> 00:19:53,574 the chaos he created to his advantage. In the process, he nearly killed Robin and managed 213 00:19:53,654 --> 00:19:59,357 to capture Batman, solidifying his reputation as a legitimate threat to Gotham's heroes. 214 00:19:59,830 --> 00:20:06,074 However, despite his initial success, Kite Man's overconfidence proved to be his downfall. After 215 00:20:06,114 --> 00:20:10,938 leaving the mobsters to guard Batman, Kite Man returned to find that Robin had managed to 216 00:20:11,018 --> 00:20:16,382 free his mentor. In a swift turn of events, Batman and Robin used Kite Man's own weapons 217 00:20:16,442 --> 00:20:22,267 against him, ultimately defeating him and bringing him to justice. His kite plane, which had been 218 00:20:22,307 --> 00:20:28,191 a key part of his escape plans, was later kept as a trophy in the Batcave, symbolizing Batman's 219 00:20:28,231 --> 00:20:33,234 victory over the kite-obsessed criminal. After serving time in prison, Chuck wasted little 220 00:20:33,254 --> 00:20:38,418 time resuming his criminal activities. Still dedicated to his kite-centric theme, he launched 221 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:44,202 a new series of robberies, this time focusing on payroll heists. With his inventive use of 222 00:20:44,262 --> 00:20:49,734 kites and glider wings, Kite Man was able to evade capture for some time. though his exploits 223 00:20:49,774 --> 00:20:55,156 were once again thwarted by Gotham's vigilant protector, Batman. Though his crimes may have 224 00:20:55,236 --> 00:21:00,639 seemed outlandish, Chuck's ability to develop new Kite-based technologies continued to pose 225 00:21:00,659 --> 00:21:06,161 a challenge for Gotham's law enforcement and heroes alike. Despite repeated defeats, Kite-Man's 226 00:21:06,201 --> 00:21:10,943 determination never wavered. His criminal career eventually attracted the attention of heroes 227 00:21:10,983 --> 00:21:16,706 beyond Gotham, as his antics became more daring. In one notable encounter, Kite Man set his 228 00:21:16,786 --> 00:21:21,751 sights on a valuable treasure known as the Golden Eagle. During the heist, he was confronted 229 00:21:21,771 --> 00:21:27,716 by Hawkman, Hawk Girl, and Zatanna, three of DC's most formidable heroes. Who you could 230 00:21:27,756 --> 00:21:33,821 learn more about in their respective duels against Wolverine, Gamora, and Scarlet Witch. Kite 231 00:21:33,841 --> 00:21:38,986 Man's specialized kites gave him the upper hand in mid-air combat for a brief period, but Zatanna's 232 00:21:39,046 --> 00:21:45,030 magical abilities ultimately turned the tide. After a short battle, Kite Man was sent crashing 233 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:53,135 into a tree and was defeated. Kite Man's notoriety grew further when he relocated to Zandia, a 234 00:21:53,215 --> 00:21:58,198 fictional country notorious for being a haven for supervillains. The country allowed criminals 235 00:21:58,218 --> 00:22:03,061 like him to operate with relative impunity, and Kite Man quickly ingratiated himself with 236 00:22:03,141 --> 00:22:07,664 other villains living there. He even joined Zandia's supervillain sports team, where he 237 00:22:07,784 --> 00:22:12,606 used his kite-based technology to contribute to their success. However, Kite Man's time 238 00:22:12,626 --> 00:22:18,048 in Zandia was cut short when he became involved in a conflict with a group of invading superheroes. 239 00:22:18,328 --> 00:22:23,271 Despite his abilities, Kite Man was once again defeated, further cementing his status as a 240 00:22:23,311 --> 00:22:29,253 villain who couldn't quite reach the upper echelons of criminal success. As the supervillain community 241 00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:34,535 evolved, Chuck found himself increasingly on the margins. During a major event in Gotham 242 00:22:34,595 --> 00:22:39,217 City, Kite Man was approached by a group of villains looking to form a new criminal syndicate. 243 00:22:39,746 --> 00:22:45,249 When Chuck refused to join their ranks, one of Gotham's deadliest assassins, Deathstroke, 244 00:22:45,529 --> 00:22:51,814 threw him off of a skyscraper. Although severely injured, Kite Man survived the fall, managing 245 00:22:51,854 --> 00:22:57,318 to glide to safety using one of his emergency kites. However, his near-death experience marked 246 00:22:57,378 --> 00:23:02,982 a turning point in his criminal career. Chuck attempted to reestablish himself in Gotham's 247 00:23:03,062 --> 00:23:08,705 underworld, taking on smaller-scale heists and selling his custom-made kites to other criminals. 248 00:23:09,130 --> 00:23:14,071 His status in the city's criminal hierarchy continued to decline, and he never regained 249 00:23:14,111 --> 00:23:19,692 the respect or fear he had once commanded. Eventually, Kite Man was captured alongside several other 250 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:25,574 low-ranking villains, including Sewer King, the Squid, and Mirage. The group was confronted 251 00:23:25,594 --> 00:23:30,776 by inter-gang leader Bruno Mannheim, who sought to consolidate his control over Gotham's criminal 252 00:23:30,856 --> 00:23:36,837 operations. When Kite Man and the others refused to bow to Mannheim's authority, they were brutally 253 00:23:36,937 --> 00:23:43,143 executed. marking the apparent end of Chuck's criminal career. But in post-Flashpoint continuity, 254 00:23:43,283 --> 00:23:48,124 Charles Brown's origin was reimagined, and his character was given a more tragic backstory. 255 00:23:48,564 --> 00:23:55,686 Now referred to as Charlie Brown, he was depicted as a divorced father and an alcoholic, struggling 256 00:23:55,726 --> 00:24:00,708 to find his place in Gotham's underworld. His love for Kites had initially been a way to 257 00:24:00,768 --> 00:24:08,554 bond with his young son, Charlie Jr., who once exclaimed, Kite Man, hell yeah! in excitement 258 00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:13,778 during their kite flying outings. However, when Chuck became involved in a war between the 259 00:24:13,838 --> 00:24:19,161 Joker and the Riddler, his life took a dark turn. Caught in the crossfire of the two villains' 260 00:24:19,201 --> 00:24:25,185 feud, Chuck was used by both sides as a pawn. The Riddler, wanting to hurt Chuck, poisoned 261 00:24:25,226 --> 00:24:30,849 his son's favorite kites, leading to Charlie Jr.'s tragic death. Devastated and consumed 262 00:24:30,929 --> 00:24:36,713 by grief, Charlie fully embraced his criminal alter ego, Kite Man, as a way to seek revenge. 263 00:24:37,346 --> 00:24:42,068 He sided with the Joker in the ongoing war, determined to bring down the Riddler for what 264 00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:46,871 he had done. Throughout the conflict, Kite Man's skills were put to the test, and while his 265 00:24:46,951 --> 00:24:52,754 kites proved useful in battle, he was never able to shake his status as a joke among Gotham's 266 00:24:52,814 --> 00:24:57,657 villains. After the war concluded, Kite Man continued his criminal activities in Gotham, 267 00:24:57,977 --> 00:25:02,720 though he never regained the level of recognition he once sought. Despite his tragic past and 268 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,082 repeated failures, Charlie remains a determined criminal, still using his kite-based gadgets, 269 00:25:08,803 --> 00:25:13,265 sometimes in the aid of Batman, in the hopes of one day gaining the respect he believes 270 00:25:13,285 --> 00:25:18,427 he deserves. Powers-wise, Kite-Man has no innate superhuman abilities, though he does have an 271 00:25:18,627 --> 00:25:24,790 uncanny understanding of aerodynamics and has engineered gliders and gadgets seemingly capable 272 00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:31,473 of defying gravity and physics. His primary engineering marvel is a spring-loaded, collapsible 273 00:25:31,553 --> 00:25:37,641 jet-powered glider. He stores on his back that gives him instantaneous accelerated lift. He's 274 00:25:37,701 --> 00:25:43,926 also a master glider, capable of near impossible acrobatics, acceleration and altitude. He has 275 00:25:44,026 --> 00:25:49,671 also been known to carry small expandable kites that he can use as heavy projectiles or to 276 00:25:49,731 --> 00:25:56,737 transport explosives or to lead trails of gas or other material. He also carries binoculars 277 00:25:56,957 --> 00:26:04,746 and when the need arises, a straight up gun and he will bust a cap if necessary. Binoculars? 278 00:26:05,087 --> 00:26:09,529 I guess he would need those. Yeah, to see far when he's high up in the sky. You had mentioned 279 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:14,532 at some point during your profile that he got into a fight with Hawkman and for some reason 280 00:26:14,612 --> 00:26:19,896 gave Hawkman and Hawkgirl a hard time in their aerial combat. Which doesn't make a fucking 281 00:26:19,916 --> 00:26:24,058 lick of sense to me. That just makes Hawkman and Hawkgirl look like they suck. Hey, it was 282 00:26:24,298 --> 00:26:29,781 earlier, alright? This isn't like freakin' modern age comics here. Alright, alright. Well, uh... 283 00:26:30,074 --> 00:26:34,498 I think you will be shocked at how many similarities there are between Kite Man's backstory and 284 00:26:34,578 --> 00:26:40,405 Stilt Man's. Let's hear it! Alrighty. Little is known about Wilbur Day's early life, but 285 00:26:40,445 --> 00:26:46,251 as an adult, he earned a PhD in mechanical engineering. He began working as a brilliant but frustrated 286 00:26:46,311 --> 00:26:52,177 scientist at Caxton Laboratories under Carl Caxton, who had developed a hydraulic RAM device. 287 00:26:52,706 --> 00:26:57,687 Feeling overlooked and underappreciated, Wilbur decided to steal Caxton's designs and use them 288 00:26:57,727 --> 00:27:03,529 to engineer a suit of armor equipped with telescopic hydraulic legs. This suit allowed him to tower 289 00:27:03,609 --> 00:27:08,611 high above the ground, granting him an advantage in committing crimes and evading capture. With 290 00:27:08,631 --> 00:27:13,772 this invention, Wilbur became the villain known as Stiltman, using his new abilities to carry 291 00:27:13,832 --> 00:27:19,735 out a string of robberies, largely from high-rises and helicopters. Wilbur sought to steal a molecular 292 00:27:19,775 --> 00:27:25,322 condenser device, another one of Caxton's inventions, but he was opposed by Daredevil, the blind 293 00:27:25,362 --> 00:27:30,328 vigilante of Hell's Kitchen. During their battle, Wilbur was accidentally struck by the condenser's 294 00:27:30,388 --> 00:27:36,214 ray, shrinking him to microscopic size and sending him into a limbo-like dimension. After months 295 00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:40,918 in the Microverse, Wilbur eventually returned to Earth where he resumed his criminal career. 296 00:27:41,358 --> 00:27:46,403 You can learn more about Daredevil in our Nightwing vs Daredevil episode. Constantly modifying 297 00:27:46,463 --> 00:27:51,907 and improving his armor, Wilbur continued to battle Daredevil as well as other heroes, including 298 00:27:51,967 --> 00:27:56,831 Spider-Man and Captain America. His telescopic legs were his greatest asset, allowing him 299 00:27:56,871 --> 00:28:01,655 to extend close to 300 feet, which made him a difficult target for ground-based opponents. 300 00:28:02,176 --> 00:28:07,538 However, despite numerous upgrades to his armor, including concussive blasters, gas dispensers, 301 00:28:07,658 --> 00:28:13,520 and a machine gun, Stiltman was frequently defeated, leading to a reputation as an inept and persistent 302 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,021 criminal. For more about Spider-Man, check out our Blue Beetle vs. Spider-Man episode. One 303 00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:22,543 of Wilbur's more humiliating moments occurred when a small-time crook named Turk Barrett 304 00:28:22,623 --> 00:28:28,684 stole his suit and began using it to commit petty crimes. Angered by this audacity, Wilbur 305 00:28:28,724 --> 00:28:33,914 contacted Daredevil secretly and revealed a weakness in his armor's auto-gyroscopes. With 306 00:28:33,954 --> 00:28:38,937 this knowledge, Daredevil easily defeated Turk and returned the suit to its rightful owner. 307 00:28:39,438 --> 00:28:43,561 After this embarrassing incident, Wilbur upgraded the armor to ensure that no one else could 308 00:28:43,601 --> 00:28:48,325 exploit its weaknesses. Stiltman's criminal ventures took him across the country. In San 309 00:28:48,365 --> 00:28:53,549 Francisco, he kidnapped his former boss Carl Caxton and his daughter to force Caxton into 310 00:28:53,609 --> 00:28:59,033 recreating the molecular condenser, planning to use the device for a major heist. This time, 311 00:28:59,073 --> 00:29:04,023 however, Wilbur was defeated by Daredevil and Black Widow, who foiled his plans and rescued 312 00:29:04,063 --> 00:29:08,344 Caxton. You can learn more about Black Widow in our Black Canary vs. Black Widow episode. 313 00:29:08,744 --> 00:29:13,845 Despite these failures, Wilbur remained determined to enhance his suit and reclaim his reputation. 314 00:29:14,265 --> 00:29:19,507 He later upgraded his armor with secondary adamantium, courtesy of the villain Blastar, which made 315 00:29:19,547 --> 00:29:24,908 the suit virtually indestructible. Feeling invincible, Stiltman even dared to challenge Thor, the 316 00:29:24,948 --> 00:29:29,489 Norse god of thunder. However, the battle ended in defeat when Thor stripped him of his armor, 317 00:29:29,854 --> 00:29:35,358 and had it melted down. Wilbur's career continued to be a mix of minor successes and major defeats. 318 00:29:35,518 --> 00:29:40,482 He was hired to kidnap Assistant District Attorney Maxine Lavender, but failed when Daredevil 319 00:29:40,522 --> 00:29:45,406 intervened. He also clashed with Black Goliath after stealing advanced weaponry from the Trapster. 320 00:29:45,907 --> 00:29:50,370 Using a teleportation gun, Stiltman managed to transport Black Goliath and his companions 321 00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:55,715 to an alien planet, but he was ultimately defeated and forced to flee. In an attempt to regain 322 00:29:55,735 --> 00:30:00,326 his reputation, Stiltman broke into a factory and created a new armor. During the battle 323 00:30:00,346 --> 00:30:04,449 with Spider-Man that followed, Stiltman had a change of heart when Spider-Man saved his 324 00:30:04,509 --> 00:30:09,832 life from a deadly sonic disruptor. Grateful, Wilbur returned the favor by sparing Spider-Man's 325 00:30:09,852 --> 00:30:14,515 life and walking away from the fight. Despite several attempts to leave his life of crime, 326 00:30:14,656 --> 00:30:19,099 Wilbur always found himself returning to villainy. He joined forces with other supervillains, 327 00:30:19,179 --> 00:30:23,922 including the Owl and Gladiator, in an attempt to take control of the Kingpin's criminal empire. 328 00:30:24,382 --> 00:30:28,805 This plot was foiled by Daredevil and Spider-Man, and Wilbur's role in the Underworld was further 329 00:30:28,845 --> 00:30:33,764 diminished. After a string of defeats and embarrassments, including a battle against Iron Man during 330 00:30:33,804 --> 00:30:38,907 the Armour Wars where he was quickly knocked out, Wilbur decided to retire. He visited the 331 00:30:38,927 --> 00:30:43,050 law offices of Nelson and Murdock, declaring his intention to leave behind his criminal 332 00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:48,293 identity. He left his armor and suitcase on Matt Murdock's desk and stormed out, feeling 333 00:30:48,313 --> 00:30:53,296 paranoid accusations that Murdock was the real Kingpin. During the Superhuman Registration 334 00:30:53,436 --> 00:30:57,931 Act, Wilbur saw a chance for redemption. He signed up with the government and was outfitted 335 00:30:57,971 --> 00:31:02,135 with a new suit of armor, this time to serve as law enforcement during the ensuing conflict 336 00:31:02,175 --> 00:31:06,839 between heroes. However, Wilbur's attempt at becoming a reformed hero ended tragically. 337 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,863 While tracking a child pornographer, Wilbur crossed paths with the Punisher, who saw him 338 00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:16,908 as a criminal beyond redemption. The Punisher used an anti-tank missile to destroy Wilbur's 339 00:31:16,948 --> 00:31:20,831 legs and then shot him point-blank, killing him instantly. You can learn more about the 340 00:31:20,851 --> 00:31:25,686 Punisher in our Punisher vs. Red Hood episode. Wilbur's death sparked a wake at the bar with 341 00:31:25,746 --> 00:31:30,448 no name, attended by many of his fellow villains. The gathering devolved into chaos when the 342 00:31:30,488 --> 00:31:35,369 Punisher, disguised as the bartender, poisoned the drinks and blew up the bar in an attempt 343 00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:39,990 to kill everyone inside. However, Wilbur's story didn't end there. He was later resurrected 344 00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:44,612 by the Jackal, a geneticist who specialized in cloning and reviving deceased villains. 345 00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:49,873 Stiltman, along with several other reanimated criminals, was sent out by the Jackal to pursue 346 00:31:49,953 --> 00:31:54,584 Spider-Man. Those actions during this period were largely unsuccessful, Wilbur's legacy 347 00:31:54,644 --> 00:32:00,088 lived on through successors like Lady Stiltman and his brief return to criminal life. Did 348 00:32:00,108 --> 00:32:07,693 you just say Lady Stiltman? It's not Stilt Woman? Yeah, I have no idea why. Her name is Lady 349 00:32:07,733 --> 00:32:13,237 Stiltman. Wow. Powers-wise, Stiltman's abilities come entirely from his suit of powered armor. 350 00:32:13,637 --> 00:32:18,140 The armor gives him enhanced strength and durability, allowing him to lift heavy objects nearly a 351 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,915 ton in weight, punch through walls, and withstand gunfire and attacks from superheroes. His legs 352 00:32:23,955 --> 00:32:28,997 are capable of extending nearly 300 feet, giving him an unparalleled advantage in height and 353 00:32:29,037 --> 00:32:33,399 allowing him to step over buildings or crush vehicles beneath them with swift hydraulic 354 00:32:33,439 --> 00:32:38,781 force. He can extend or shrink his legs and his arms almost instantaneously, giving him 355 00:32:38,821 --> 00:32:43,603 incredible punching and kicking power. Stiltman's battle suit also comes equipped with various 356 00:32:43,663 --> 00:32:48,485 weapons, including a concussive blaster, gas grenades, and a machine gun attached to his 357 00:32:48,525 --> 00:32:54,608 wrist. He can also grease his stilts to prevent anyone from climbing up them. Finally, Stiltman 358 00:32:54,628 --> 00:32:58,709 is a skilled mechanical engineer, having built and improved most of the components of his 359 00:32:58,789 --> 00:33:04,572 armor. And that's Stiltman. So you're telling me one of his villainous tools is lube? Yeah, 360 00:33:04,992 --> 00:33:11,114 yep. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. There was a story that I read in the comics where he basically 361 00:33:11,154 --> 00:33:15,956 tried to franchise out his stilt technology and sell his stilts to other villains. But 362 00:33:15,996 --> 00:33:21,587 they all basically died in battle or got captured. And so he just made everyone else a loser. 363 00:33:21,707 --> 00:33:26,811 It was pretty funny. That's just like Kite Man when he was selling his kites. Yeah. Can Stiltman 364 00:33:26,891 --> 00:33:32,595 extend his arms as far as his legs? That's unknown. I couldn't quite figure that out. He can extend 365 00:33:32,635 --> 00:33:37,118 his arms. I don't know if he could go as far as 300 feet, though. It's possible. 300 feet. 366 00:33:37,158 --> 00:33:43,283 So that's like 30 stories tall. Yeah, about. Yeah. OK. Well, this is going to be a really 367 00:33:43,303 --> 00:33:47,345 interesting match. It's time to find out who rules the skyways. 368 00:33:54,638 --> 00:34:00,325 where fantasies collide and heroes clash, one podcast network rises above the rest. Prepare 369 00:34:00,345 --> 00:34:06,073 yourself for the ultimate showdowns in comic books, video games, movies, and anime. The 370 00:34:06,133 --> 00:34:11,820 Dynomic Podcast Network presents Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. 371 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:18,503 Dynamic Podcast Network. Comic Book Titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where TV and 372 00:34:18,603 --> 00:34:24,905 action heroes battle every Wednesday. And Sendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. 373 00:34:25,425 --> 00:34:30,427 Join us as we speculate on the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations, 374 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:37,569 discover who will emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com where we settle the debate and settle the score. 375 00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:45,212 Now that we got their histories and abilities out of the way, we're going to speculate on 376 00:34:45,252 --> 00:34:50,677 how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not 377 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:55,841 our speculation, but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the 378 00:34:55,881 --> 00:35:00,926 rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules other than the characters 379 00:35:00,946 --> 00:35:05,490 have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out 380 00:35:05,810 --> 00:35:10,093 is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation... 381 00:35:10,422 --> 00:35:15,425 The contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that 382 00:35:15,465 --> 00:35:19,847 will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered 383 00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:25,010 in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's 384 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:30,594 get into it. Kite Man and Stilt Man meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm going 385 00:35:30,614 --> 00:35:36,537 to say Kite Man starts off by expanding his kite glider and just rocketing straight up 386 00:35:36,577 --> 00:35:41,921 into the air. Okay, I can tell you right now, no matter how fast KiteMan can gain elevation 387 00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:46,704 with his kite, it's not gonna be faster than StiltMan, who can get up to his peak altitude 388 00:35:46,884 --> 00:35:53,049 in seconds. Dude, KiteMan can ascend fast enough to knock people unconscious from the speed. 389 00:35:53,549 --> 00:35:59,593 And StiltMan can grow fast enough to smash through ceilings. Okay, whatever. So as KiteMan is 390 00:35:59,633 --> 00:36:04,637 flying up, all of a sudden he sees StiltMan just rocket past him to get the high ground. 391 00:36:05,057 --> 00:36:10,231 And while... Stiltman is towering above Kite Man. Stiltman stretches down one of his arms 392 00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:14,712 and just punches a hole in Kite Man's glider, causing Kite Man to spiral back down to Earth. 393 00:36:15,132 --> 00:36:20,914 Dude, this kite isn't made of like paper. It's actually pretty durable. So there's no hole 394 00:36:20,954 --> 00:36:26,495 in it. It's just going to, you know, knock Kite Man into a spiral, but he's going to be spiraling 395 00:36:26,936 --> 00:36:33,597 upward. So as he's twisting around Stiltman, you know, gaining altitude, he's going to wrap. 396 00:36:33,882 --> 00:36:38,723 up Stiltman's legs with this kite string that's going to trip Stiltman up and cause him to 397 00:36:38,783 --> 00:36:44,464 fall. And from that height, dude's basically dead, right? No, his armor is durable enough 398 00:36:44,504 --> 00:36:48,906 to protect him from falls from that height. But like, what is this kite string made out 399 00:36:48,946 --> 00:36:53,907 of? Because I'm pretty sure Stiltman can just snap that string by taking a step with his 400 00:36:53,967 --> 00:37:00,889 durable metal legs. It's not cotton, I can tell you that. Okay. It's probably, you know, some 401 00:37:01,089 --> 00:37:07,257 durable metallic thread that he uses to like weave his kites or something. Okay, so, Stiltman's 402 00:37:07,317 --> 00:37:12,662 legs are wrapped up, but to keep from falling, Stiltman is gonna fully retract one of his 403 00:37:12,722 --> 00:37:17,726 legs from the ground, causing it to slip out of the kite string, okay? So he's balancing 404 00:37:17,746 --> 00:37:22,710 with one leg, and with his one leg free, he's gonna point his foot right at Kite Man, and 405 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:28,635 extend it, just kicking Kite Man right in the face. Dink, okay. So Kite Man, you know, his 406 00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:34,278 eyes are probably pretty blurry from getting kicked in the face. So by the time he regains 407 00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:40,181 his sight, it's too late. He's going to crash straight into Stiltman's one standing leg. 408 00:37:40,521 --> 00:37:46,063 But this is going to work to Kite Man's advantage because the impact is going to knock Stiltman 409 00:37:46,144 --> 00:37:51,946 over for real this time. OK, well, if Kite Man just crashed into Stiltman's legs, you know, 410 00:37:52,006 --> 00:37:55,588 Kite Man's going to be creening through the air and Stiltman, you know, he's toppling over. 411 00:37:55,628 --> 00:38:03,575 So they're both probably just like, fuck. So. Stiltman is gonna regain his footing by extending 412 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:08,877 his other leg just to catch himself. I'm guessing Kite Man is gonna find a way to correct his 413 00:38:08,937 --> 00:38:15,580 trajectory. But at this point, Stiltman is gonna activate his wrist-mounted machine gun and 414 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:21,102 just start blasting Kite Man with a hail of bullets. Okay, well, Kite Man is gonna dodge 415 00:38:21,142 --> 00:38:26,605 these bullets by flipping and zipping through the air. And as he's doing that, he's gonna 416 00:38:26,645 --> 00:38:32,940 leave a trail of small kites. that sail up to Stiltman's body. And by the time Stiltman even 417 00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:38,684 notices them, they're close enough so that when they detonate explosively, because they were 418 00:38:38,764 --> 00:38:43,467 bomb kites, it's going to rock him so hard, it's going to topple him to the ground once 419 00:38:43,507 --> 00:38:48,011 again. Except Stiltman did see the explosive kites, and he was able to shoot them out of 420 00:38:48,031 --> 00:38:52,814 the air with his machine gun before they got too close for him to really hurt him. Joke's 421 00:38:52,874 --> 00:38:59,762 on you then, because those kites were distractions, and apparently they worked. Because while Stiltman 422 00:38:59,822 --> 00:39:06,265 is busy shooting those kites, Kite Man's gonna zip past Stiltman's head with a kite string 423 00:39:06,325 --> 00:39:11,787 tied in a noose that's gonna wrap around Stiltman's neck, and Stiltman's just gonna get yanked 424 00:39:12,287 --> 00:39:17,289 real hard, straight up into the stratosphere, like way higher than he's used to. And between 425 00:39:17,309 --> 00:39:21,971 the noose and because he's not used to that low oxygen up there, Stiltman's gonna pass 426 00:39:22,071 --> 00:39:29,046 out. Well, first of all, Stiltman's battle suit has a respirator. So he can breathe in high 427 00:39:29,086 --> 00:39:33,929 elevations, that's fine. He is probably getting choked out. But before that can happen, as 428 00:39:33,949 --> 00:39:38,312 he's being carried up into the air, he's gonna throw a grenade that's gonna explode next to 429 00:39:38,352 --> 00:39:43,395 Kite Man. It's a sleeping gas grenade. It's gonna put Kite Man to sleep, forcing him to 430 00:39:43,535 --> 00:39:49,698 drop the noose. And now they're both just falling from the stratosphere down to earth. Nah, Stilt 431 00:39:49,738 --> 00:39:57,967 Man is falling. Kite Man is gently gliding while asleep. Ha ha ha, all right. Uh, Stiltman is 432 00:39:58,007 --> 00:40:04,913 gonna save himself from the fall by extending his stilts and using them like shock springs. 433 00:40:04,933 --> 00:40:10,719 Okay? And then he's gonna start running after Kite Man using his stilts because Kite Man's 434 00:40:10,759 --> 00:40:17,105 asleep at the wheel flying away, but Stiltman catches up to him with these huge giant strides 435 00:40:17,605 --> 00:40:23,578 and then he extends his arms to land a devastating hammer blow punch. that just knocks Kite Man 436 00:40:23,618 --> 00:40:29,360 out of the air for good with strong hydraulic force. Well, actually, Kite Man, you know, 437 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,502 he's floated long enough that by the time Stilt Man reaches him, he's already woken up. And 438 00:40:34,563 --> 00:40:39,745 so he's able to dodge Stilt Man's attack. And since a hammer blow punch involves, you know, 439 00:40:39,865 --> 00:40:45,347 both hands being interlocked, Kite Man's going to quickly lasso those fists together with 440 00:40:45,407 --> 00:40:51,429 kite string attached to this antenna like kite that's just going to rocket into the atmosphere. 441 00:40:51,974 --> 00:40:56,978 and it's going to get struck by lightning, which is going to send electricity surging through 442 00:40:57,058 --> 00:41:02,142 still a man's metallic suit, just electrocuting him and frank him to a crisp while also teaching 443 00:41:02,182 --> 00:41:06,626 him in his last moments. The same lesson that Benjamin Franklin learned all those years ago. 444 00:41:07,026 --> 00:41:10,749 You don't fuck with kites. What is it raining or something? What the fuck? Like, what kind 445 00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:16,594 of environmental bullshit is that? Why is there lightning all of a sudden? It was an ionized 446 00:41:16,634 --> 00:41:22,711 kite designed to attract lightning. Duh. An ionized kite. I'm calling bullshit. But either 447 00:41:22,751 --> 00:41:28,696 way, Stiltman can detach any part of his stilts or arms if they get trapped. So the only thing 448 00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:34,681 that Kite Man electrocuted was this pair of metal arms. And that is when Stiltman is going 449 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:41,566 to whip out his concussive blaster pistol and just blast off Kite Man's kite entirely and 450 00:41:41,626 --> 00:41:46,170 Kite Man falls to his death. Oh no no, Kite Man has emergency parachute kites that will 451 00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:51,174 deploy automatically if he's falling too fast. Fine, those get blasted too. What else does 452 00:41:51,214 --> 00:41:57,078 Kite Man have that'll save him? Uh, I mean, he has those get blasted to everything gets 453 00:41:57,118 --> 00:42:03,703 blasted. Kite Man dies. I don't actually think he has anything else anyway, but I'm going 454 00:42:03,723 --> 00:42:09,086 to say that, uh, electricity just moves way too fast, bro. There's no way still man disengages 455 00:42:09,126 --> 00:42:14,930 his arms fast enough to escape the lightning, but it also takes time for lighting to develop. 456 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:21,206 So yeah, still man had plenty of time. Sorry. I guess we'll leave it there. Either Stiltman 457 00:42:21,286 --> 00:42:28,669 gets electrocuted via a kite and lightning, or Kite Man essentially just falls to his death 458 00:42:28,789 --> 00:42:33,771 after his kite and all of his emergency parachutes get blasted away. We'll go ahead and leave 459 00:42:33,811 --> 00:42:38,113 the match there. Let's find out which of these scenarios happens by running the simulations 460 00:42:38,153 --> 00:42:44,316 for these characters and coming back with a winner. AJ9K, hit it. Inputting data, running 461 00:42:44,336 --> 00:42:50,218 calculations, processing results, simulations complete. All right, that was a fun match. 462 00:42:50,799 --> 00:42:55,542 When I came to figuring out the statistics for each of these characters, I was actually pretty 463 00:42:55,582 --> 00:43:00,105 surprised at how often they came out as equals in some of these categories. Like I thought 464 00:43:00,165 --> 00:43:05,929 Kite Man was gonna be faster than Stilt Man, but it turns out Stilt Man can move pretty 465 00:43:06,009 --> 00:43:10,772 quickly when his legs are really long. Yeah, he also gains altitude really quickly too. 466 00:43:10,913 --> 00:43:15,656 It's interesting that both of these characters, their whole MO is about the aerial advantage, 467 00:43:15,716 --> 00:43:20,830 right? But they both approach it in very different ways. Like Kite Man, he's all about projectiles 468 00:43:20,990 --> 00:43:25,652 and like his trick kites and stuff like that. Whereas Stilt Man is more about like strength 469 00:43:25,712 --> 00:43:30,573 and durability, you know? Yeah, and because of that, obviously Stilt Man came out on top 470 00:43:31,033 --> 00:43:36,895 in the stats of durability and strength, but Kite Man came out on top in terms of versatility 471 00:43:37,415 --> 00:43:43,036 and range, thanks to all of his trick kites. And what was really stupid is that Kite Man 472 00:43:43,136 --> 00:43:49,850 got the edge in perception because he has those binoculars. That's right. You think that Stiltman 473 00:43:49,870 --> 00:43:53,611 would have binoculars, too, or something like that, to enhance his perception. He doesn't 474 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:58,233 need him because he's still, for the most part, about close quarters combat. Right. Exactly. 475 00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:02,034 Yeah, he's a lot more physical than Kite Man, for sure. We said that they were pretty much 476 00:44:02,214 --> 00:44:06,815 dead even when it came to intelligence. They're, you know, pretty much experts in their respective 477 00:44:06,855 --> 00:44:12,716 fields. But when it came to damage level, still, man, it was just slightly ahead of Kite Man, 478 00:44:12,917 --> 00:44:16,882 which I also thought was surprising. For the most part, these guys are all about you know, 479 00:44:16,942 --> 00:44:22,424 using explosives and various gases. But there's something to be said when you could literally 480 00:44:22,544 --> 00:44:27,546 stop on a car. Yeah. Or punch through a wall, you know. But taking all of these stats into 481 00:44:27,586 --> 00:44:32,388 consideration, Joseph, who do you think? You know, you don't even need to ask before you 482 00:44:32,408 --> 00:44:37,290 even finish your question. It's still man. It's going to be still man. I will finish. I was 483 00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:41,872 going to ask who you thought was going to lose. You think you think I was going to lose. All 484 00:44:41,912 --> 00:44:47,306 right. I think I'm going to lose and still man's going to win. And I think our Instagram followers 485 00:44:47,486 --> 00:44:53,249 misunderstood the question too, because 59% of them are siding with Kite Man. And there's 486 00:44:53,289 --> 00:44:58,591 no way that's right. I mean, the guy does have his own animated series. Just Stilt Man? Is 487 00:44:58,651 --> 00:45:04,253 he cool enough for that? Nope. Well, a version of Stilt Man was in the Daredevil Netflix show, 488 00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:09,935 Turk. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that. But he never used the stilts in that 489 00:45:09,955 --> 00:45:14,777 show. So, yeah, probably for the best. But let's find out the results of this week's match. 490 00:45:15,122 --> 00:45:23,108 AJ 9K, the results, please. Hey, you are, sir. The winner of the matchup between Kite Man 491 00:45:23,729 --> 00:45:31,035 and Stilt Man is Stilt Man. Before you even give the answer, it's going to be Stilt Man. 492 00:45:31,055 --> 00:45:38,240 I already know it. I meant loser. So you think the loser is going to be Stilt Man? Yeah, Stilt 493 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,245 Man is the winner of this matchup. He won six hundred and ninety three of the 1000 matches. 494 00:45:44,734 --> 00:45:55,299 or 63.9% compared to Kite Man's 36.1%. That sucked, I'm not gonna lie. I was really looking 495 00:45:55,319 --> 00:46:00,082 forward to winning this matchup so I could just be like, hell yeah. Well, let's all hear your 496 00:46:00,102 --> 00:46:07,906 best hell no. Hell no. I know exactly what that feels like every time Marvel loses a match. 497 00:46:08,206 --> 00:46:15,574 That's what I say inside. It feels so nice to be able to say though that KiteMan is the bigger 498 00:46:15,615 --> 00:46:20,997 loser out of these two. That's depressing. I don't know, maybe it's fitting. Maybe he was 499 00:46:21,038 --> 00:46:27,241 destined for this. This is just the kind of luck that KiteMan would have. And this would 500 00:46:27,261 --> 00:46:32,324 be the first time that Stiltman has accomplished anything, really. So that's interesting. But 501 00:46:32,344 --> 00:46:38,866 that does it for this duel, guys. AG9K, help close this out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic 502 00:46:38,886 --> 00:46:45,368 duel. 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