Mark David 1.632 2.785 OKAY, THIS IS Mark David 2.785 8.725 TAPE TWO OF AN INTERVIEW WITH Basye Soyfer. SEVENTEEN MAY, NINETEEN NINETY-EIGHT, Mark David 8.725 10.266 IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. Mark David 12.516 13.725 iz, uhm, Mark David 15.773 17.724 vegn ayer kindershe lebn, Mark David 19.114 23.58 uh, volt ir gezogt az geven, ir zayt geven tsufridn? Mark David 25.476 27.292 s'iz geven a gliklekhe lebn? Basya Soyfer 27.282 28.187 ven? Mark David 28.092 29.902 uh, ven ir zayt geven a kind, Mark David 29.902 31.004 farn krig. Basya Soyfer 30.387 32.895 nu, uh, far dem krig iz geven, uh, Basya Soyfer 33.222 34.431 a mitl lebn. Mark David 35.044 39.054 m'hot, uh, m'hot geredt a mol vegn forn keyn Yisroel? Mark David 40.326 42.142 oyle zayn keyn Yisroel? Basya Soyfer 42.03 47.036 nu, denstmol iz avekgeforn, uh, a sakh mentshn flegn avekforn keyn Yisroel. Basya Soyfer 47.228 52.048 yu- yunge khevre un meydlekh makhn <HASHARA>, uh, <ikh veys vi azoy me zogt>, HAKHSHARA, Basya Soyfer 52.189 55.418 forn atin keyn IZRAIL'. zenen geforn, eh, he... Mark David 55.783 60.249 m'hot ge- uh, az, es zaynen tsienistn, heyst es? Basya Soyfer 59.833 60.738 yo. Mark David 61.234 66.273 iz, uh, di tsienistn hobn zikh tsekrigt mit, uh, anti-tsienistn? Mark David 66.448 67.842 s'iz geven, uh, Basya Soyfer 68.355 70.222 ikh, ikh d-... Mark David 68.592 71.218 a krigeray vegn dem, <tsi>, vos ir gedenkt? Basya Soyfer 71.005 75.589 neyn, dos gedenk ikh nit. ikh veys, m'hot gezogt, s'iz avekgeforn mentshn keyn IZRAIL'. Basya Soyfer 76.354 78.103 dos iz geven shoyn Basya Soyfer 79.915 82.727 in draysik akht, Basya Soyfer 83.695 85.545 draysik nayn, azoy shoyn. Mark David 86.023 88.16 uh, tsi zaynen geven, uh, Mark David 88.403 90.371 khsidim in ayer shtot? Basya Soyfer 90.192 91.316 s'iz geven. Mark David 91.879 94.505 uh, ayer mishpokhe iz geven khsidish? Basya Soyfer 94.09 96.446 hm, <i-> bay mir <z- zenen> gev- uh, Basya Soyfer 97.701 98.64 neyn. Mark David 99.844 102.504 tsi gedenkt ir tsi, uh, Mark David 102.527 106.267 khsidim hobn zikh tsekrigt mit, uh, misnagdim, Mark David 106.425 107.651 mit, uh...? Basya Soyfer 106.476 108.051 neyn. neyn. Mark David 109.851 116.443 uh, zayt ir geven gevoyer fun politishe parteyen, yidishe oder nit-yidishe? Basya Soyfer 115.504 117.742 mir ze'mir nit geven in di parteyen. Mark David 117.394 118.147 mhm. Mark David 119.47 124.02 vos far a tsaytungen hot men geleyent demolt? s'iz geven a yidishe tsaytung? Basya Soyfer 122.305 124.842 yidish. a yidishe tsaytung. Mark David 124.077 125.927 ir gedenkt vi zi heyst? Basya Soyfer 125.173 126.061 neyn. Mark David 126.658 129.486 ayer tate fleg leyenen di tsaytungen? Basya Soyfer 128.059 129.521 yidish, yo. Mark David 130.303 133.334 uh, ir hot demolt geleyent, uh, yidish? Basya Soyfer 133.746 134.887 ikh, neyn. Mark David 137.02 139.036 hebreish hot ir oykh...? Basya Soyfer 138.893 142.346 neyn. mayn shvester ken; zi leyent un shraybt yidish. Mark David 139.348 140.226 UNK Mark David 142.065 142.919 mhm. Mark David 144.343 145.72 iz, uhm, Mark David 147.988 150.361 vos hot ir gehert fun Mark David 150.385 152.525 di problemen arum aykh, Mark David 152.525 154.733 in Rusland oder in Daytshland, Mark David 155.413 157.938 ven ir zayt geven a kind in di draysiker, Mark David 158.383 162.916 mistome in di shpeterdike draysiker? hot ir gehert epes vegn Daytshland, tsum bayshpil? Basya Soyfer 163.648 170.675 hm, neyn, fun Daytshland <hob ikh> nor gevust fun, uh, in eyn un fertsikstn hob ikh nor gevust. vayter hobn mir nit gevust fun Daytshland gornit. Mark David 172.491 174.884 iz, uh, ven ir zayt geborn gevorn, Mark David 174.884 178.07 ayer shtetl iz geven a teyl fun Rumenyen, yo? Mark David 178.38 179.673 un Mark David 181.958 190.862 tsi zaynen, hot men gehert fun komunizm? iz, iz komunizm geven shtark a, a, a bavegung in, in der, <di> gegnt demolt? Basya Soyfer 187.442 188.448 neyn. Basya Soyfer 188.708 189.951 NO. NO. Basya Soyfer 190.277 191.098 neyn. Basya Soyfer 191.121 193.41 denstmol <hot men nokh> nit gevust <veg>n komunizm. Mark David 193.024 194.024 <mhm>. Mark David 194.361 196.619 iz, hot ir gehert propagande Mark David 196.619 199.788 vegn Daytshland oder vegn Rusland? kimat nit? Basya Soyfer 198.31 199.131 NO. Mark David 202.09 203.484 iz, uhm, Mark David 205.482 210.842 kent ir dertseyln, vos hot pasirt in di shpeterdike draysiker yorn? vos hot, uh, Mark David 211.59 213.086 vos hot aykh pasirt, Mark David 213.328 215.212 tsum bayshpil, nayn un draysik, Mark David 215.218 217.625 ven di milkhome hot zikh oysgebrokhn? Basya Soyfer 217.902 221.844 hm, neyn, di milkho- di milkhome iz nit geven in nayn un draysik. Mark David 218.02 219.701 tsi hot ir gehert vegn dem? Basya Soyfer 222.593 224.848 di milkhome iz geven in eyn un fertsikstn. Mark David 226.238 228.24 yo, in Poyln iz geven Basya Soyfer 228.6 231.851 dos iz geven in Poyln. n<u>, dos, uh... yo. Mark David 228.786 232.47 <bay>, uh, bay zey a milkhome. ir hot gornisht gehert fun dem? Basya Soyfer 231.851 232.593 neyn. Mark David 232.47 233.218 mhm. Mark David 233.865 235.37 iz, Mark David 235.37 240.288 ay- <iz, dos> heyst az s'iz, ayer lebn iz geven in gantsn normal biz, Mark David 240.717 242.567 uh, biz eyn un fertsik? Basya Soyfer 242.202 243.039 yo. Mark David 243.096 246.634 ven, uh, di rusn zaynen gekumen... Mark David 247.011 248.844 ven zaynen di rusn gekumen? Basya Soyfer 249.12 251.999 hm, di rusn zenen gekumen bay undz in fertsikstn, Basya Soyfer 252.732 257.046 un zenen geven a yor un nokh dem iz shoyn gekumen nokh a mol di, Basya Soyfer 257.98 259.239 di daytshn. Mark David 259.144 261.045 vos kent ir gedenken, Mark David 261.067 264.032 ven di rusn zaynen gekumen? vos hot pasirt Mark David 264.375 265.567 in ayer lebn? Basya Soyfer 267.582 271.761 ven di rusn zenen gekumen, uh, hobn zey gemakht fun di mentshn gornit. Basya Soyfer 271.885 273.839 ver s'hot gehat zayn magazin, Basya Soyfer 273.839 276.739 hobn zey tsugenemen; s'iz gevorn aldings bay der melukhe. Basya Soyfer 277.723 279.117 dos gedenk ikh. Mark David 283.528 290.103 iz, ayer lebn iz gebitn? ir zayt gegangen in naye shuln? tsi di shuln hobn zikh gebitn? Basya Soyfer 290.734 291.335 neyn. Mark David 294.767 297.495 hot ir gehert propagande far di rusn Mark David 298.294 299.891 ven zey zenen arayn? Basya Soyfer 298.429 299.57 mir hob'mir <z-> Basya Soyfer 299.577 305.511 denstmol hobn mir nokh nit farshtanen keyn rusish. mir hob'mir ge<hert redn> mentshn; m'hot nokh nit farshtanen keyn rusish, <azoy se darf tsu zayn>. Basya Soyfer 305.668 308.21 m'hot nit uspeyet tsu lernen nokh keyn rusish. Mark David 311.203 312.496 iz, uh, Mark David 316.148 322.099 tsi hobn ayere ki- ayere shvester o- oder brider oder tate-mame geredt vegn dem vos tut zikh? Basya Soyfer 323.607 325.491 i- <UNK>kh gedenk nit dos. Mark David 326.931 327.903 iz, Mark David 327.903 329.81 vos, uh, gedenkt ir Mark David 329.918 331.852 dernokh? vos hot pasirt Mark David 332.213 335.042 ven di rusn zaynen gekumen un shpeter? Basya Soyfer 336.381 339.48 hm, ven s'iz gekumen di rumeners UNK in eyn un fertsikstn? Basya Soyfer 344.11 350.364 ven di rumeners zenen gekumen nokh a mol tsurik, zenen tsurikgekumen tsun undz, bay di daytshn shoyn, dos iz geven in eyn un fertsikstn yor. Mark David 351.096 353.064 iz di rusn zaynen arayn, Basya Soyfer 352.935 354.191 di r- di r- Mark David 353.256 354.397 gedenkt ir? Basya Soyfer 354.191 363.509 di rusn zenen arayngekumen, zenen opgeven a yor tsayt, un nokh dem zenen zey avekgegangen fun undz, un s'hot tsurikgenemen di rumenyens mit di daytshns. dos hot zikh ongehoybn di velts-milkhome. Mark David 365.743 367.036 iz geven Mark David 367.617 368.761 krigeray Mark David 368.761 369.889 arum aykh? Mark David 370.485 372.099 iz geven shiseray? Basya Soyfer 372.038 373.736 s'i- vos heyst nit geven? Mark David 372.308 373.466 armey? Mark David 373.742 376.419 vos, uh, vos hot ir gezen? dertseylt. Basya Soyfer 377.488 379.78 hm, di r- di ershte, hm, Basya Soyfer 379.78 381.887 <a> SNARYAD iz gefaln bay undz, Basya Soyfer 382.602 384.604 tsk, donershtik in shtot. Mark David 385.858 388.113 in velkhn tog, velkhe date? Basya Soyfer 386.025 386.876 UNK Basya Soyfer 387.968 391.016 velkhe date? date kon ikh nit gedenken. Basya Soyfer 391.039 396.517 iz, eh, ale yidn zenen shoyn gegangen zikh bahaltn. ver s'hot zikh gebahaltn in a keler, ver s'hot zikh gebahaltn. Basya Soyfer 396.54 399.554 un fraytik iz shoyn arayngekumen di, Basya Soyfer 399.898 401.782 di rumener mit di daytshn. Basya Soyfer 402.463 404.971 <i>n dem zelbn tog vos zey zenen arayngekumen, Basya Soyfer 404.995 406.963 hot men teykef geshosn yidn. Mark David 408.167 410.355 tsk, vos hot pasirt? vos hot ir gezen? Basya Soyfer 411.205 412.667 vos hot pasirt? Basya Soyfer 413.196 418.337 ikh hob gezen ven zey zenen gegangen mit di biksn un <m'iz> arayngegan in a, in a shtub arayn, Basya Soyfer 418.461 422.049 lebn undz, un m'hot geshosn a, a altn mentshn. Basya Soyfer 423.49 429.879 un nokh dem hot men undz farnemen... in, in finef-zeks teg hot men undz farn- uh, arayngenemen in a, in a shul, Basya Soyfer 430.56 435.448 un, uh, s'iz geshtanen di rumener mit di daytshn, un s'iz geven di poyers, Basya Soyfer 436.703 438.907 di vos zey hobn gevoynt in dem shtetl, Basya Soyfer 439.048 442.586 un m'hot genemen dos, uh, di mener bazunder Basya Soyfer 442.677 444.476 un di froyen bazunder. Basya Soyfer 445.039 452.508 un, uh, un m'hot ersht opge- dos hot <men undz> gehaltn tsvey teg dortn, un nokh dem hot men undz opgelozt, di froyen mit di kinder hot men opgelozt, Basya Soyfer 452.565 455.613 un mener, eltere mentshn, hot men oykhet opgelozt. Basya Soyfer 455.653 457.868 un yunge, yunge khevre, hm, Mark David 455.653 456.541 <ven> Basya Soyfer 457.868 459.781 epes hundert draysik mentshn, Basya Soyfer 460.463 463.461 hot men, uh, genemen un m'hot zey oysgeshosn teykef. Basya Soyfer 463.602 466.475 hundert draysik mentshn, yunge khevre un, uh, Basya Soyfer 466.475 469.361 un vos m'hot gezogt az der iz geven a, Basya Soyfer 470.588 472.792 a komunist, ver s'iz geven, uh.... Basya Soyfer 473.608 476.538 ven s'iz arayngekumen di rusishe, zey hobn gearbet baym rusishn, Basya Soyfer 476.747 480.347 hobn zey shoyn geshikt, hobn zey gerekhnt az dos iz shoyn Basya Soyfer 480.578 482.965 andere PART<II>. Basya Soyfer 483.582 486.394 iz hundert draysik mentshn hot men teykef oysgeshosn. Basya Soyfer 486.754 487.625 un nokh... Mark David 486.771 487.51 mit, Mark David 487.51 489.262 mit vemen zayt ir geven Mark David 489.319 490.48 in di teg, Mark David 490.48 493.178 ven di rumener un di daytshn zaynen arayn? Basya Soyfer 492.424 493.785 mit di eltern! Mark David 494.162 496.597 un ayere brider un shvester? Basya Soyfer 495.85 497.361 yo. yo. Mark David 496.597 498.611 ale tsuzamen in eynem? Basya Soyfer 498.162 499.084 yo. Mark David 501.3 506.879 vos hot, uh, vos gedenkt ir fun... vos hot men gezogt? vos hot ayer, ayer tate-mame gezogt? Mark David 507.021 509.791 zey hobn aykh baruikt mit epes? Basya Soyfer 507.582 508.582 <ah> Mark David 509.791 510.946 mit verter? Basya Soyfer 510.835 513.27 mir hob'mir moyre gehat, UNK <mir, mir zenen> gezesn in shtub, Basya Soyfer 513.27 515.626 un teykef, un azoy vi Basya Soyfer 515.863 518.914 s'iz arayngekumen di rumener mit di daytshn, Basya Soyfer 518.914 523.029 iz teykef, uh, di poyers zenen gekumen un hobn bay undz aldings aroysgenemen fun der shtub. Basya Soyfer 523.474 525.527 un mir hobn mir nit getort zogn gornit. Basya Soyfer 526.09 530.657 un ven m'hot undz aroysgetribn in der shil aray- in der shul arayn, di shkole dortn, Basya Soyfer 530.832 535.264 un zenen mir tsurikgekumen, hobn mir shoyn nit getrofn gornit in shtub. der fentster iz shoyn geven tsebrokhn. Basya Soyfer 535.54 539.027 vos s'iz geven hobn zey shoyn oy- uh, tsugen- ... s'iz geven vi a p<ro>grom! Basya Soyfer 541.311 543.094 in a vokh arum Basya Soyfer 543.977 547.396 nokh dem, hot men undz aroysgetribn fun, VOOBSHCHE ale yidn, Basya Soyfer 547.673 549.489 fun de- fun dem shtetl. Basya Soyfer 550.086 551.75 zenen mir gegan tsu fus. Basya Soyfer 552.145 554.299 hot men undz getribn tsu fus. Basya Soyfer 554.338 557.943 un s'iz geven shtark groyse hitsn. mentshn zenen gefaln oyfn veg; Basya Soyfer 558.49 561.001 eltern, vos zey hobn shoyn nit gekont geyn, Basya Soyfer 561.001 565.318 hobn gedarft iberlozn di... di kinder hobn gedarft iberlozn di eltern, Basya Soyfer 565.881 568.966 vayl zey hobn gevolt oyfheybn di eltern, hot men nit gelozt. Basya Soyfer 568.966 570.6 hobn zey ge- shtark geshlogn. Basya Soyfer 570.775 574.633 iz <m- iz> hot men ibergelozt di eltern. kinder hot men ibergelozt azoy oyfn veg. Mark David 574.302 575.815 ver hot aykh getribn? Basya Soyfer 575.888 577.333 <di> UNK... Mark David 576.259 577.417 daytshn Basya Soyfer 577.474 578.929 s'hot undz getribn Mark David 577.592 579.324 tsi, uh, rumener? Basya Soyfer 578.929 579.796 rumener. Mark David 580.123 582.513 zey zaynen geven oyf ferd, tsi Basya Soyfer 581.963 582.986 neyn. Mark David 582.891 584.387 oyf vogn un...? Mark David 585.321 588.504 vos far a... mashinen? zey hobn gehat mashinen? Basya Soyfer 587.413 590.832 <n-> zey hobn nit gehat keyn... vos zhe, in Rumenye iz geven mashinen? oyf ferd! Mark David 590.063 592.487 <ah, zey zaynen> geganen, geganen tsu fus oykh? Basya Soyfer 591.413 595.288 oyf ferd. <iz men> gegan tsu fus un m'hot undz getribn vi shof. Mark David 596.087 598.308 <s'heyst> zey hobn yo gehat ferd oykh? Basya Soyfer 597.505 598.674 yo, yo. Basya Soyfer 598.674 601.666 etlekhe hobn gehat ferd, un s'iberike iz gegan tsu fus. Basya Soyfer 602.027 606.729 s'hot undz gefirt mistome, ah... a- azoy fil mentshn, hot undz gefirt mistome a tsen soldatn. Basya Soyfer 607.866 610.577 un mir ze'mir gegan ale; m'hot moyre gehat az... Mark David 610.313 612.855 vifl mentshn zayt ir geven oyfn veg? Basya Soyfer 613.3 614.694 oyfn veg? Mark David 613.367 615.031 vifl rekhnt ir? Basya Soyfer 615.426 618.609 hm, dos UNK geven a akht-nayn toyznt mentshn. Mark David 619.83 621.579 ale fun der shtot? Basya Soyfer 620.91 628.362 fun der shtot, fun di, ale yidn hot men aroysgetribn. m'hot dokh keyner nit gevust tsi s'<vet> di, s'<vet> araynkumen di rumener, uh, az... dos iz ge- forgekumen in eyn tog. Mark David 629.702 635.568 uhm, di nit-yidishe shkheynim, hot ir <ge-> zey gezen tsvishn di, uh, di rumener un daytshn? zey hobn Mark David 635.575 637.459 onteyl genumen <bay>...? Basya Soyfer 636.57 639.18 neyn! neyn, neyn, neyn. Basya Soyfer 639.979 642.453 ver kon nemen a aynteyl in derin? keyner nit! Mark David 643.489 647.654 iz, uh, zey vos hobn aykh, uh, getribn un ze- zey vos hobn geshosn Mark David 647.654 650.536 yidn dort zaynen geven nor, uh, soldatn? Basya Soyfer 649.851 651.138 nor soldatn. Mark David 652.872 656.966 vos hobn di... ir hot geredt mit, uh, shkheynim v- nit-yidishe Basya Soyfer 657.867 659.585 ven zenen mir gegangen? Mark David 658.018 659.649 in der tsayt? yo. Basya Soyfer 659.585 660.143 yo. Mark David 659.993 661.421 vos hobn zey gezogt? Basya Soyfer 660.143 661.421 UNK geven UNK... Basya Soyfer 661.613 664.847 uhm, eh, vos zey hobn gezogt? zey hobn gezogt, "s'iz groyse tsores," Basya Soyfer 665.089 668.525 az m'hot undz azoy aroysgetribn, aza <im hits> zenen mir gegan tsu fus. Mark David 669.527 673.689 ober zey hobn, uh, take genumen zakhn fun ayer heym, yo? Mark David 674.168 676.98 di shkheynim, di, di nit-yidishe shkheynim. Basya Soyfer 674.185 675.444 ver hot genemen? Basya Soyfer 676.311 678.026 gornit hobn mir nit genemen! Mark David 677.526 679.967 ver hot genumen di zakhn fun ayer heym? Basya Soyfer 679.332 681.503 di poyers, di kristn. Mark David 681.036 683.025 dos zog ikh, dos zog ikh. Basya Soyfer 682.217 683.083 yo. Basya Soyfer 683.083 686.16 zey hobn tsugenemen in gantsn; m- undz, mir ze'mir aroysgegan <mit> gornit. Basya Soyfer 688.208 692.859 mir ze'mir aroysgegan poshet mit... a bisl vaser hot men undz nit gegibn, un azoy, un s'iz geven shtark heys. Basya Soyfer 693.102 698.344 m'hot nit gegibn nit keyn esn, nit gornit. uh, un s'- nor s'iz geven oyf di felder, vos s'iz geven denstmol Basya Soyfer 698.704 704.621 kartoflyes, vos nit iz. un vu mir zenen geblibn shteyn bay nakht shlofn, fleg<n mir> khotsh esn fun dem feld epes. Basya Soyfer 706.433 708.874 keyn vaser hobn zey nit gelozt undz trinken. Mark David 710.567 712.091 iz, uh, iz, Mark David 712.091 714.83 zaynen geven onfirer tsvishn di yidn? Basya Soyfer 715.005 716.079 neyn! Basya Soyfer 716.305 721.378 ver iz geven onfirers? uh, m'iz geganen ale mitn kop arop un m'hot undz geharget un geshlogn. Mark David 722.515 726.002 un ir zayt geven mit tate-mame, brider-shvester di gantse tsayt? Basya Soyfer 724.152 725.124 yo. Basya Soyfer 725.4 726.086 y- yo. Mark David 726.058 727.309 un Mark David 727.309 728.871 vi lang zaynen Mark David 729.045 730.693 di mentshn gegangen? Basya Soyfer 731.779 733.393 vi lang zenen gegangen? Basya Soyfer 733.551 736.279 m'iz gegangen biz tsu der Ukrain. Basya Soyfer 737.668 739.67 zenen mir ibergegan dem Dnyester, Basya Soyfer 740.487 743.299 un dortn hot men undz, uh, tseshtelt, Basya Soyfer 743.322 745.273 shoyn <in der> Ukrayne: Basya Soyfer 745.498 749.967 eh, dos in dem, uh, shtetl, un d<i> in d<i> shtetlekh. Basya Soyfer 749.967 752.378 nor me, m'hot nit arayngelozt in shtot arayn. Basya Soyfer 752.417 756.174 m'hot undz, uh, aruntergeleygt dortn... azoy z<UNK>l zogn bay aykh? Basya Soyfer 757.041 759.178 hm, vu di beheymes zenen, Basya Soyfer 760.112 762.435 di khazeyrim, dortn zenen mir gelign. Basya Soyfer 762.694 765.171 ofn di fentster, ofn di tirn. Mark David 764.061 765.607 bay di beheymes? Basya Soyfer 765.171 770.596 YES, YES, YES. dortn hot men undz aruntergeleygt. ver s'hot gekont nemen a bisl shtroy oyf tsu lign iz gelign. Basya Soyfer 770.596 772.475 ver s'hot nit gehat iz azoy gelign. Basya Soyfer 773.089 776.056 azoy hot men, un do, m'hot undz nit arayngelozt in shtetlekh, Basya Soyfer 776.056 777.707 uh, m'hot undz nor azoy ge-... Mark David 778.843 781.587 vi, uh, vi lang zayt ir gegangen? Basya Soyfer 781.543 783.528 hm, lang zenen mir... Mark David 781.915 783.579 vi, vi lang a tsayt? Basya Soyfer 786.387 790.836 hm, ikh'l bald zogn vifl, uh, fir IYUL', hm, biz, hm, Basya Soyfer 791.871 794.632 NOYember, biz, uh, oktomber. Mark David 795.786 797.434 antshuldikt, vos hot ir gezogt? Basya Soyfer 797.068 799.188 biz, uh, oktomber. Mark David 799.363 801.399 fun, un ven hot es ongehoybn? Basya Soyfer 799.853 800.657 <n-> Basya Soyfer 801.135 803.474 fun, s'hot zikh ongehoybn fun, eh, IYUL'. Basya Soyfer 803.498 804.471 IYUN'. Mark David 803.515 807.339 fun yuli biz oktober iz men gegangen tsu fus? Basya Soyfer 805.0 806.209 yo. Basya Soyfer 806.215 807.307 tsu fus. Basya Soyfer 807.307 810.292 m'iz geblibn, a tsvey teg hot men, uh, gelign, Basya Soyfer 810.349 813.178 un nokh dem hot men dikh nokh a mol getribn un nokh a mol getribn. Basya Soyfer 813.235 818.916 un dernokh dem hot men undz, uh, i- arayngefirt shoyn, uh, zenen mir gezesn a khoydesh in di, uh, Basya Soyfer 820.052 822.02 vu di beheymishe zenen. Basya Soyfer 822.28 824.898 eh, mentshn zenen gefaln vi flign dortn. Basya Soyfer 824.898 825.913 mentshn b- uh, Basya Soyfer 825.913 829.631 bist oyfgeshtanen in der fri, <ho>stu... der iz farfroyrn gevorn, der iz, uh... Mark David 830.447 832.702 ir hot gezen, uh, Mark David 833.451 835.048 mentshn geshosn? Basya Soyfer 835.341 836.06 yo. Basya Soyfer 838.547 840.097 host nit gevolt, uh, Basya Soyfer 840.097 842.094 geyn, host nit gevolt shteyn, Basya Soyfer 842.094 845.19 host nit gevolt redn, host gevolt, host gevolt a bisl opruen, Basya Soyfer 845.348 846.804 hot er geshosn dikh. Basya Soyfer 847.339 851.012 er hot nor geshrign, me zol geyn vayter, geyn un geyn <azoy>. Basya Soyfer 851.136 854.269 zey flegn forn oyf di ferd un undz hot men getribn tsu fus. Mark David 860.092 861.744 i- iz, uhm, Mark David 862.965 865.018 vos far a esn hot ir bakumen? Basya Soyfer 864.872 865.844 gornit! Mark David 867.488 868.916 vos hot ir gegesn? Basya Soyfer 868.669 871.087 zog ikh aykh, vos s'iz geven oyf di felder, Basya Soyfer 871.087 873.238 vos s'hot gevakst, dos hobn mir geesn. Basya Soyfer 873.238 878.568 un az <mir zenen f-> gekumen shoyn in der Ukrayne, geven voyle mentshn. zey flegn zey varfn shtiklekh broyt undz. Basya Soyfer 879.115 882.501 me fleg geyn, azoy ir zet a mol oyfn, uh, televizor, Basya Soyfer 883.401 886.365 az se geyen mentshn, me traybt zey, azoy hot men undz getribn. Basya Soyfer 886.725 890.097 uh, nor di kristn flegn shoyn zen az me traybt undz, Basya Soyfer 890.097 895.808 der hot gevarfn a shtikl broyt, der a kartoflye, der a ge- hm... un dos iz geven... az nit, iz... Mark David 894.994 897.451 ver hot dos geton, ukraynishe poyerim? Basya Soyfer 896.918 898.836 yo, di ukraynishe poyerim. Basya Soyfer 899.584 901.08 zey hobn geton es. Mark David 901.677 903.648 vu iz dos geven, vu, uh, Mark David 903.648 904.589 uh, oyf, Mark David 904.731 909.146 fun vanet, uh, ir zayt ongehoybn in Yednitse, Mark David 909.22 911.34 un biz vanet zayt ir gegangen? Basya Soyfer 910.958 912.268 biz Bershad. Mark David 914.839 917.325 ir hot ge- ir zayt geblibn Mark David 917.325 920.978 in, uh, etlekhe shtet oyfn veg, oder lebn shtet? Basya Soyfer 919.817 922.308 yo. yo. yo, UNK. Mark David 920.978 922.309 vos zaynen di shtet? Basya Soyfer 922.585 924.958 shtet iz, uh, Obedivke, Basya Soyfer 925.538 929.801 s'iz, uh, Verkhivke, s'iz, uh, Ustye, Basya Soyfer 929.892 933.446 di shtetl <oyf> d<i> arum un arum, nor undz hot, in shtot hot <men> undz nit arayngelozt. Basya Soyfer 933.486 937.563 m'hot undz nor arayngeleygt dortn vu s'iz di beheymish<lekh> zenen gevezn. Mark David 937.772 940.533 es zaynen geven yidn fun andere shtet? Basya Soyfer 940.472 941.394 yo! Mark David 941.417 944.313 <ey-> in ayer grupe, tsi nor yidn fun Mark David 944.353 945.444 Yednitse? Basya Soyfer 945.535 951.182 hm, neyn, mir ze'mir shoyn aribergegan dem Dnyester. dortn hot <men> shoyn ongetribn ale yidn<s>. Basya Soyfer 951.711 954.405 shoyn geven ale, fun ale shtetlekh iz gevezn. Basya Soyfer 956.436 960.109 m'hot dokh fun a- <v>un, fun gants Moldavye hot men aroysgetribn ale yidn. Mark David 961.667 962.656 ehm, Mark David 962.899 964.495 ir hot gehert, Mark David 964.941 969.052 oder ir hot moyre gehat az di daytshn veln ale oysshisn? Basya Soyfer 968.248 970.367 YEAH, YES. Mark David 969.295 971.417 vos hot ir gehert vegn, uh, <y-> Mark David 971.417 973.254 daytshishe shlakhtn fun yidn? Mark David 974.256 976.843 hot ir gehert epes, oder iz geven a klang Mark David 976.843 977.794 az...? Basya Soyfer 976.99 981.506 i- ikh hob gezen, uh, ale tog iz geven oyfgehongen di mentshn oyf di, Basya Soyfer 983.233 985.252 oyf di stolbes fun der elektrik. Basya Soyfer 986.929 987.93 <zey hobn geho-> Mark David 986.963 988.172 vos hot ir gezen? Basya Soyfer 987.93 989.488 mentshn hobn gehongen. Basya Soyfer 990.692 991.867 m'hot zey oyfgeh<o->... Mark David 990.76 992.391 oh, hot men gehongen? Basya Soyfer 991.873 993.588 YEAH, m'hot geh<a>ngen zey. Basya Soyfer 994.017 995.698 ale tog iz geven andere. Mark David 996.261 997.211 yidn <h->...? Basya Soyfer 997.088 998.696 hm? yid- Mark David 997.211 999.663 uh, nor di yidn fun ayer grupe? Basya Soyfer 999.383 1002.245 yidn un, eh, p- s'iz geven poyers oykhet. Mark David 1004.935 1009.89 iz, uh, di mentshn vos hobn aykh, uh, getribn zaynen nor geven rumenishe soldatn? Basya Soyfer 1010.274 1011.274 yo. Mark David 1010.79 1013.872 un n- nor gets- nor, uh... vifl mentshn, Mark David 1014.807 1017.18 uh, vifl soldatn zaynen geven? Basya Soyfer 1017.81 1023.153 vifl soldatn s'iz geven? uh, s'iz denstmol geven epes a, ikh veys, tsi tsen, tsi fuftsn soldatn. Mark David 1022.991 1024.682 tsk, mit ferts- mit tsv- Basya Soyfer 1024.442 1025.448 fer<ds>. Mark David 1024.682 1026.9 mit fertsn toyznt yidn? Basya Soyfer 1027.007 1029.069 ha? akht toyznt shoyn aroysgeganen. Mark David 1028.087 1029.245 akht t<oyznt>? Basya Soyfer 1029.069 1031.354 yo, s'iberike iz antlofn, ikh veys vos UNK. Mark David 1032.087 1033.059 uh, Mark David 1033.453 1037.277 ir zogt "antloyfn." ir hot getrakht vegn antloyfn? Basya Soyfer 1037.672 1039.235 m'hot shoyn nit gehat ven. Basya Soyfer 1040.203 1042.525 m'hot ge- me, a sakh mentshn zenen antlofn. Mark David 1042.279 1043.049 mhm. Basya Soyfer 1043.595 1049.372 hm, ver s'hot gehat mit vos, uhm, iz antlofn, nor, uh, s'iz, uh, ongekumen azoy gikh az, uh, m'hot nit uspeyet, <uh>. Basya Soyfer 1049.372 1051.301 bay undz iz teykef di GRANITSA Basya Soyfer 1052.505 1053.697 mit Rumenye. Mark David 1054.615 1057.477 ir hot geredt mit ayere tate-mame oder mit Mark David 1057.787 1059.62 andere vegn antloyfn? Mark David 1060.318 1062.809 m'hot gemakht plener tsu antloyfn? Basya Soyfer 1062.124 1065.105 m'hot gemakht plener, <nor m'hot dos> shoyn nit uspeyet. Mark David 1068.148 1075.533 far vos? ir hot getrakht, uh, es volt geven shver tsu antloyfn? vos hot ir getrakht f- vos hot ir gehaltn vegn dem plan? Basya Soyfer 1074.173 1075.386 mir hobn, hm, Basya Soyfer 1075.386 1078.824 mir ho'mir gevust, az s'vet araynkumen nokh a mol di rumener un di daytshn, Basya Soyfer 1079.016 1080.427 iz shoyn nit gut. Basya Soyfer 1081.817 1084.522 <m'vet shi- uh,> m'hot gevust, m'vet hargenen yidn, spn. Mark David 1081.834 1082.688 di Basya Soyfer 1084.522 1087.228 ver se kumt arayn in a ander melukhe, teykef vegn di yidn. Mark David 1088.128 1091.817 ver fun ayere eygene hobn gehat, uh, di merste problemen? Basya Soyfer 1093.933 1094.973 mit vos? Mark David 1094.997 1097.471 mit, mitn geyen azoy fil? Mark David 1098.0 1099.546 ayer tate-mame? Basya Soyfer 1099.367 1101.436 <mir hobn> gehat UNK problemen. vi den? Basya Soyfer 1101.949 1106.128 nor zey zenen nokh geven, uh, yunge. s'iz geven eltere mentshn, hobn nit gekont geyn. Mark David 1107.062 1108.794 ir hot gehat andere kroyvim? Basya Soyfer 1109.205 1109.958 yo. Basya Soyfer 1110.657 1111.815 ikh hob gehat Mark David 1110.69 1112.658 ver nokh iz geven mentshn? Basya Soyfer 1112.428 1115.327 geven kroyvim. s'iz a sakh kroyvim gevezn. Mark David 1114.823 1115.55 <mhm>. Basya Soyfer 1115.382 1119.021 eh, mayne a kroyve iz geblibn oyfn veg un mayn, eh, Basya Soyfer 1119.162 1122.463 un mayn shve- dem tatn's shvester iz oykh geblibn oyfn veg. Basya Soyfer 1123.65 1127.272 un, ehm, di gantse mishpokhe iz <ba-> Mark David 1125.355 1128.082 bobe-zeyde, bobe zeydes hot ir gehat? Basya Soyfer 1128.055 1129.635 bobe-zeyde, nit shoyn. Basya Soyfer 1130.265 1136.05 <un>, nor mayn tate's mishpokhe iz, iz, eh, di brider, di shvester zenen ale oysgeshtorbn dortn in lager, Basya Soyfer 1136.05 1137.347 in di geto. Mark David 1138.045 1139.237 shoyn frier? Basya Soyfer 1139.158 1142.122 neyn, no- uh, nit shpeter. Mark David 1139.513 1141.165 ah, shpeter, shpe-... Mark David 1141.165 1142.207 <ah,> zey zaynen ale <g->... Basya Soyfer 1142.122 1145.75 in, eh, in tsv- in dray un, uh, fertsikstn. Mark David 1145.301 1146.139 mhm. Mark David 1148.625 1152.027 un, uh, ver fun ayere kroyvim zaynen gefaln oyfn veg? Basya Soyfer 1152.962 1154.494 a sakh kroyvim. Mark David 1159.223 1160.668 ir kent dermonen Mark David 1160.893 1161.95 di nemen? Basya Soyfer 1162.497 1163.723 ikh veys, uh, Basya Soyfer 1164.117 1167.469 di mume Gitl, TYOTYA Khave, Basya Soyfer 1168.656 1171.249 teykef <iz zi, iz> geven a elterer mentsh shoyn. Basya Soyfer 1171.356 1180.445 iz zi geblibn shteyn, eh, un zi hot nit gekont geyn azoy, un m'hot gezen, mi- mit di oygn, m'hot nokhgekukt un <azoy> iz zi geblibn shteyn, un geshtanen, <un hot> gekukt nokh undz un, un mir hobn zi nit gekont nemen. Basya Soyfer 1180.654 1183.078 m'hot nit gelozt. un zi hot nit gekont geyn shoyn. Mark David 1187.387 1188.866 iz, uh, Mark David 1190.374 1193.169 vu zayt ir sof-kol-sof ongekumen? Mark David 1193.8 1196.241 vu zayt ir ongekumen nokhn geyn? Basya Soyfer 1196.719 1198.063 nokhn kumen? Mark David 1197.445 1199.363 yo. vuhin iz men gegangen? Basya Soyfer 1199.942 1204.188 <hm, nu, z->, ikh zog az ikh bin ongekumen keyn Bershad. dortn zenen mir shoyn geven in, in geto. Basya Soyfer 1204.785 1208.052 dort hot men undz shoyn nit aroysgelozt in ergets nit. m'ho- Mark David 1207.3 1213.74 Bershad iz geven fr- shoyn frier a geto un me, m'hot aykh, uh, arayngetribn in, in dem geto? Basya Soyfer 1212.345 1213.891 yo. yo, yo. Mark David 1214.809 1216.305 un vu hot ir Mark David 1216.53 1219.308 genumen plats? vu hot ir gevoynt, mit vemen? Basya Soyfer 1219.045 1220.541 vu mir hob'mir gevoynt? Basya Soyfer 1220.631 1223.471 s'iz geven, eh, shtiber tsebrokhene, Basya Soyfer 1223.471 1225.721 vos mentshn zenen, uh, antlofn. Basya Soyfer 1226.892 1231.779 mentshn hobn zikh, uh, ah, fun dortn zenen antlofn, fun, <fu-> Ukraine hot uspeyet tsu antloyfn. Basya Soyfer 1231.92 1237.989 zenen mir geven in der shtub, un zenen mir gezesn in aza <im->, in tsvey tsimern azoyne, fuftsik mentshn. Basya Soyfer 1238.08 1240.419 eyns lebn ander, azoy flegn mir lign <oyf>... Basya Soyfer 1240.425 1243.558 ver s'hot getrofn a bretl iz gelign. dos is shoyn geven gut! Basya Soyfer 1243.733 1245.448 dos iz geven shtark gut shoyn. Basya Soyfer 1249.268 1250.916 hm, gut ibergelebt. Mark David 1252.963 1254.391 iz, uh, Mark David 1255.157 1257.463 ayer mishpokhe iz geblibn tsuzamen? Basya Soyfer 1259.123 1260.45 mayn mishpokhe? Mark David 1260.085 1260.804 <yo>. Basya Soyfer 1260.49 1263.741 s'iz geblibn. nu, di mame iz geshtorbn in Bershad, Mark David 1263.932 1266.052 iz, vos hot pasirt mit ir? Basya Soyfer 1264.455 1265.816 in eyn un ferts- Basya Soyfer 1266.143 1268.195 nu, di daytshn hobn zi geshlogn Basya Soyfer 1268.539 1271.108 un nokh derinen iz zi teykef geshtorbn. Mark David 1270.125 1271.623 vu zayt ir geven? Mark David 1271.623 1273.342 vos hot ir gezen fun dem? Basya Soyfer 1274.277 1277.404 nu, zi iz gegangen, uh, zi hot gevolt aroysgeyn fun der geto, Basya Soyfer 1277.404 1279.08 gevolt geyn epes, uh, Basya Soyfer 1280.183 1284.986 oy, nemen vegn di kinder vegn epes. hot men zi ge- hm, -trofn un m'hot zi geshlogn. Mark David 1286.055 1288.449 zi hot probirt aroysgeyn fun geto? Basya Soyfer 1287.692 1288.783 YES. Mark David 1288.449 1289.882 hm. vu zayt ir geven? Basya Soyfer 1289.785 1290.656 hm? Mark David 1289.882 1291.719 mit, ir zayt geven mit ir? Basya Soyfer 1291.658 1293.372 neyn, neyn, neyn. Basya Soyfer 1293.874 1296.128 hm, m'hot zi tsurik umgekert. Mark David 1299.218 1302.384 vi azoy hot ir gehert di nayes, az zi iz geshtorbn? Basya Soyfer 1303.302 1306.485 nu, uh, zi iz tsurikgekumen tsun undz in shtub arayn, Basya Soyfer 1306.879 1312.661 un <d-> zi hot zikh aruntergeleygt un zi, s'iz geven, m'hot zi ts<uge>brokhn tsi vos dortn, un zi iz geshtorbn. Mark David 1315.654 1317.547 in ayer shtub iz zi geshtorbn, Basya Soyfer 1317.021 1319.497 YES, spn, dortn vu mir hob'mir gevoynt. Mark David 1317.547 1319.411 nokh dem vi me hot zi geshlogn? Basya Soyfer 1319.497 1321.082 yo, vu mir <hob'mir> gevoynt. Mark David 1322.168 1326.229 ehm, vi iz geven dos lebn in geto? iz geven a JUDENRAT? Mark David 1327.99 1328.743 neyn. Mark David 1329.559 1331.156 mentshn hobn gearbet? Basya Soyfer 1331.01 1332.254 vu hot men gearbet? Basya Soyfer 1332.254 1333.519 voser arbet? v<er m-> Mark David 1332.563 1336.134 vos, <uh>, ir hot gehat arbet? vos hot ir gehat tsu ton Mark David 1336.208 1337.417 far arbet? Basya Soyfer 1338.148 1341.686 hm, mikh hot <men> nit genemen, nor m'hot genemen di eltere. Basya Soyfer 1341.76 1344.999 m'hot zey genemen oyf arbet dortn, eh, he.... Mark David 1346.232 1348.301 vos hobn ayer tate-mame geton? Basya Soyfer 1348.948 1352.182 zey, zey hot men nit genemen. m'hot genemen yunge mentshn oyf der arbet. Mark David 1353.91 1357.38 un ir zayt geven tsu yung, tsi ir hot <ar-> oykh gearbet? Basya Soyfer 1357.217 1359.686 neyn, ikh bin geven tsu yung; ikh bin geven a kind, <eh>. Basya Soyfer 1359.686 1363.93 ikh fleg mikh ontun vi a, a poyershe ontun zikh Basya Soyfer 1363.93 1367.049 un ikh fleg aray- aroysgeyn fun der geto. ikh fleg aroysgeyn. Basya Soyfer 1367.207 1374.863 kh'fleg geyn, uh, fleg ikh betn bay di poyerim. flegn mir gibn broyt un flegn mir gibn kartoflyes. me fleg mir gibn a shtikl kez, vos nit iz. Basya Soyfer 1374.863 1378.78 azoy fleg ikh mikh tsurik araynganvenen in geto un me fleg brengen dos esn. Basya Soyfer 1378.78 1382.372 iz ale mentshn vos, iz geven gern, <er> zol khapn a sh<tikl> broyt, Basya Soyfer 1383.222 1387.806 me zol zey gibn a bisl broyt. ikh hob f- ikh hob mikh ongetun vi zey- zeyere kinder. Basya Soyfer 1387.812 1391.802 m'hot mir gemakht a lange yupke, hm, mit a tikhl farbunen, Basya Soyfer 1391.802 1393.746 iz di daytsh hot mikh nit derkent. Basya Soyfer 1394.612 1399.027 dos fleg ikh aroysloyfn un betn bay zey, un zey flegn gibn. zey flegn gibn. Mark David 1400.923 1404.494 un di poyerim hobn gevust az ir zayt a bahaltener yid? Basya Soyfer 1404.13 1407.246 yo. yo, yo. zey hobn gevust, di poyerim. Mark David 1404.568 1405.541 yidene... Mark David 1405.817 1407.195 yidishe... Mark David 1409.378 1410.756 iz, uh, Mark David 1411.943 1413.877 vos far a sekone iz geven Mark David 1413.9 1415.446 tsu ant- tsu Mark David 1415.79 1417.356 antloyfn fun geto, Mark David 1417.356 1419.581 tsu, uh, aroysganvenen fun geto? Basya Soyfer 1419.823 1423.715 <ah, n><UNK> m'hot gedarft durkhgeyn durkh di soldatn. Basya Soyfer 1424.92 1427.057 arum un arum iz geshtanen soldatn; Basya Soyfer 1427.367 1428.79 m'hot gedarft durkhgeyn. Basya Soyfer 1428.79 1430.477 nor zey hobn mikh nit derkent, Basya Soyfer 1430.477 1435.292 az ikh bin a yidishke. ikh bin geven farbunen, azoy vi se geyen zeyer, di poyer<im'>s kinder. Basya Soyfer 1435.382 1440.202 geven a kind. uh, nu, a kind hobn zey azoy nit gekukt oyf mir, me, fleg ikh a- aroysgeyn zikh. Mark David 1441.44 1446.463 vi azoy i- iz geven meglekh aroystsuganvenen fun geto? iz geven... Mark David 1446.705 1450.124 vu azoy, vi azoy, gedenkt ir, ir zayt aroys fun geto? Basya Soyfer 1449.793 1453.432 nu, ikh bin gegangen. uh, der poyer iz gesht- der soldat iz geshtanen. Mark David 1453.675 1456.774 ah, ir zayt, uh, gl- uh, glat farbaygegangen? Basya Soyfer 1455.953 1456.875 yo. Basya Soyfer 1456.999 1461.06 bin aroysgegangen, uh, hot er gemeynt, ikh bin a poyershe, nit keyn yid, yid<in>. Basya Soyfer 1461.437 1465.768 ir farshteyt? uh, hot er getrakht, uh, "eh, s'iz dokh, uh, a kind. zi geyt durkh." Basya Soyfer 1466.314 1468.569 er hot mikh nit derkent az ikh bin a yidishke. Basya Soyfer 1469.47 1471.725 iz durkhn soldat fleg ikh durkhgeyn. Mark David 1472.997 1474.155 un Mark David 1474.212 1477.378 far vos hot ir nisht moyre gehat az di poyerim veln Mark David 1478.076 1480.685 aykh, uh, ibergebn tsu di daytshn? Basya Soyfer 1480.253 1481.158 neyn. Basya Soyfer 1481.923 1483.793 zey fl- zey hobn dos nit geton. Basya Soyfer 1483.793 1486.237 keyns nit. zey flegn nokh bahaltn di yidn. Basya Soyfer 1490.698 1493.19 <ven> zey hobn gezen az ikh bin a kind, az ikh gey, Basya Soyfer 1493.19 1497.749 ikh bin gegan azoy fil mayl; es iz dokh nit geven do teykef. ikh bin gegan mistome a tsen mayl tsu fus. Basya Soyfer 1497.749 1499.063 a kleyn kind! Basya Soyfer 1500.233 1507.224 un ikh bin arayngekumen in dem, eh, uh, sht- uh, derfl arayn, <vi azoy me zogt>, bay di kristn, dortn nit geven keyn yidn, Basya Soyfer 1507.224 1510.976 iz, uh, yeder hot mir gegibn esn. m'hot mir gegibn, m'hot mikh ongehodevet. Basya Soyfer 1516.18 1522.974 un azoy fleg ikh geyn betn un ikh fleg hodeven di, mayn, uh, mame un mayn tatn. zey hot men nit aroysgelozt; Basya Soyfer 1522.997 1524.746 s'iz geven eltere mentshn. Basya Soyfer 1526.22 1531.212 un nokh dem hobn zey tsugenemen, mayn, eh, bruder un mayn tatn hot men avekgenemen, Basya Soyfer 1531.212 1533.605 di daytshn, keyn Vapnyarke Basya Soyfer 1534.776 1536.09 oyf arbet. Mark David 1535.518 1536.592 vu iz dos? Basya Soyfer 1536.909 1538.212 V<a>pnyarke. Mark David 1538.455 1539.714 vos iz dos? Basya Soyfer 1539.501 1541.823 dos iz a shtetl, a Ukrayn<ish> shtetl. Basya Soyfer 1541.948 1545.013 dortn hobn zey genemen, eh, ale yidn oyf arbet Basya Soyfer 1545.981 1547.814 bay di, hm, Basya Soyfer 1551.415 1554.806 bay vos hobn zey gearbet dortn? ikh gedenk nit bay vos zey hobn gearbet. Basya Soyfer 1554.806 1556.724 un in fir khadoshim arum Basya Soyfer 1557.203 1559.239 iz, uh, zenen zey aheymgekumen. Basya Soyfer 1559.548 1563.868 un a sakh mentshn zenen nit aheymgekumen; a sakh mentshn hot men oysgeshosn dortn. Basya Soyfer 1565.218 1568.317 in fir khadoshim arum zenen zey UNK aheymgekumen fun der arbet. Mark David 1568.88 1570.725 ver iz u- ver iz umgekumen? Mark David 1570.725 1571.903 ay- Basya Soyfer 1570.737 1573.178 mayn, uh, tate mit mayn, uh, bruder. Basya Soyfer 1573.639 1577.632 zey hobn genemen, eh, nit in dem shtetl; zey hobn zey avekgefirt vayt. Basya Soyfer 1579.174 1581.497 nit nor zey; m'hot genemen a sakh mentshn. Basya Soyfer 1582.6 1586.711 m'iz arayngekumen in geto <un> vemen m'hot gevolt, dem hot men genemen. Mark David 1585.722 1587.943 ir, ir hot nisht gehert fun zey? Basya Soyfer 1588.118 1589.074 fun vemen? Mark David 1588.911 1591.065 fun ayer tate un ayer bruder? Basya Soyfer 1590.683 1594.896 neyn. un nokh dem in fir, eh, khadoshim arum zenen zey aheymge- tsurikgekumen. Mark David 1594.373 1595.373 mhm. Mark David 1598.293 1600.003 oh, zey zaynen tsurikgekumen. Basya Soyfer 1599.768 1600.768 yo. Mark David 1600.003 1601.24 iz, uhm, Mark David 1601.533 1603.889 vos hobn dey d- zey dertseylt Mark David 1604.976 1606.539 vegn, uh...? Basya Soyfer 1605.617 1608.319 oy, shtark shlekht vos hot men dertseylt dortn. Basya Soyfer 1608.351 1610.403 a gantsn tog hot men gearbet. Basya Soyfer 1611.253 1613.609 nu, pravde, m'hot zey dortn gegibn esn. Basya Soyfer 1613.852 1615.736 m'hot zey gegibn esn dortn. Basya Soyfer 1616.046 1619.482 un, uh, un a sakh mentshn hot men oysgeharget. Mark David 1622.728 1623.802 uhm, Mark David 1623.943 1626.367 zey zaynen g- tsurikgekumen gezunt? Mark David 1626.863 1628.662 nokh alts gekent arbetn? Basya Soyfer 1629.175 1630.232 neyn. Basya Soyfer 1630.288 1636.087 mayn pap- mayn tate iz geven shoyn an elterer mentsh shoyn denstmol. gekumen shtark krank fun dortn; derfar hot men im opgelozt. Basya Soyfer 1636.262 1637.589 er iz geven krank. Mark David 1639.452 1643.462 uhm, ven iz ayer mame geshtorbn? in, <in>, far dem tsi nokh dem? Basya Soyfer 1643.755 1644.778 far dem. Mark David 1646.016 1648.727 ven zi iz geshtorbn, hot men gemakht a levaye? Basya Soyfer 1649.087 1651.275 voser levaye? ver mir levaye? Basya Soyfer 1652.901 1655.662 hm, mentshn geshtorbn vi flign. Mark David 1659.111 1662.699 vos hot ir geton mit ir, mit ir guf? Basya Soyfer 1661.541 1666.422 hm, nu, s'iz geven a heylike ort un, uh, az me fleg, eh, Basya Soyfer 1666.422 1671.02 fleg men nemen e<k>es a furl, ikh veys vi azoy es heyst, un me fleg aroyffirn oyfn heylikn ort, <uh>. Mark David 1672.392 1676.891 <men,> me fleg zey, uh, bagrobn bazunder tsi mit andere mentshn? Basya Soyfer 1675.952 1677.029 andern. Basya Soyfer 1677.029 1679.658 m'hot gemakht a groyse m- mase-grub. Mark David 1678.585 1679.946 a masn-grob? Basya Soyfer 1679.783 1680.621 yo. Mark David 1686.516 1693.024 iz, uh, i- in di yorn zent ir gevorn draytsn yor alt. ir hot nisht, nokh nisht ged- gedarft arbetn? Basya Soyfer 1693.283 1695.861 neyn. m'hot mikh nit genemen; dortn hot <men nit gene-> Basya Soyfer 1695.861 1698.069 m'hot nor genemen di mener oyf arbet. Mark David 1698.649 1700.263 vos hobn di froyen geton? Basya Soyfer 1699.982 1701.157 di froyen? Basya Soyfer 1701.231 1703.452 <eh,> zey hot men nit aroysgelozt fun der geto. Basya Soyfer 1703.88 1710.033 un az me fleg nemen froyen, uh, f- fleg men zey shikn, eh, arbetn in, eh, azoy, oyfn, uh, Basya Soyfer 1710.512 1711.873 oyf a zavod. Mark David 1712.115 1713.121 tsk, oyf a vos? Basya Soyfer 1713.094 1715.113 oyf, uh, azoy heyst es? Basya Soyfer 1716.047 1719.029 hm, Basya Soyfer 1721.278 1723.567 tsk, azoy iz oyf english, veys ikh ni- ah! Basya Soyfer 1723.945 1725.069 FACTORY. Mark David 1725.042 1726.048 a fabrik? Basya Soyfer 1725.75 1726.841 <a> fabrik. Mark David 1727.995 1729.879 vos far a fabrik iz geven Mark David 1729.935 1730.975 derbay? Basya Soyfer 1730.037 1732.798 nu, ikh gedenk vos far a fabrik s'iz geven dortn? Basya Soyfer 1734.205 1736.662 ikh gedenk, s'iz geven a PIVZAVOD dortn, Basya Soyfer 1737.107 1738.016 fun bir. Mark David 1737.208 1738.243 a vos? Basya Soyfer 1738.016 1741.741 fun bir! aza v- a bir zavod, a bir zavod iz gevezn. Mark David 1738.243 1740.004 a bir fabrik? Basya Soyfer 1741.782 1744.155 s'iz geven dortn a, Basya Soyfer 1746.017 1747.141 fun milekh Basya Soyfer 1747.418 1750.191 a zavod. fleg men nemen oyf tsu arbetn, <uh>. Basya Soyfer 1750.191 1754.465 fleg men zey bay tog nemen oyf arbet un oyf der nakht tsurik araynlozn in geto. Mark David 1757.104 1758.464 UNK. uhm, Mark David 1760.31 1764.59 un ayere shvester zenen geblibn lebn di gantse tsayt mit ir Mark David 1764.698 1765.806 in geto? Basya Soyfer 1765.575 1769.72 mit mir iz geven eyn shvester. eyne iz geven, uh, zi iz antlofn. Basya Soyfer 1769.98 1772.488 zi iz geven khasene-gehate, iz zi avek mitn man. Basya Soyfer 1773.0 1776.016 zi iz nit geven in geto. ikh bin nor geven mit der shvester. Mark David 1775.937 1777.905 vi heyst di shvester vos iz geven? Basya Soyfer 1778.4 1780.87 Khayke. zi iz in, uh, in GERMANY. Mark David 1779.126 1779.896 Khayke. Mark David 1781.202 1783.388 'KAY. lomir iberbaytn di tashme itst.