Mark David 0.552 6.216 AN INTERVIEW WITH LEE SHULDMAN ON JUNE EIGHTH, NINETEEN NINETY-EIGHT IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. Mark David 7.993 9.033 uhm, Mark David 11.098 14.619 eyder mir geyen vayter mit, uh, mit dem, Mark David 14.98 16.554 mit ayer iberlebung, Mark David 16.554 20.545 uh, hob ikh, uh, a frage. ir hot dermont az Mark David 20.545 22.432 a froy iz gekumen Mark David 23.586 31.95 un m'hot, m'hot ir nisht gegleybt. uhm, ver iz geve- ir zayt geven take mit ir ven zi iz ersht ongekumen? ir hot zi gezen onkumendik? Lee Shuldman 25.864 27.073 ye. Lee Shuldman 28.632 33.52 di fro- di, di f- n- ikh hob ir gezen bay di, Lee Shuldman 33.778 36.691 in, bay ir shviger <i-> in shtub, Lee Shuldman 36.867 39.696 vayle me hot gedarft ir iberleygn. Lee Shuldman 40.022 41.732 s'iz geven a vund, Lee Shuldman 41.732 44.994 s'iz dokh geven blut in di pleytse vos iz geshosn, ye. Lee Shuldman 45.355 54.498 iz, ikh hob mit ir bruder, mit ir zun zikh geshpilt. er fleg kumen tsu di boben, un bay di boben hot gevoynt nokh a tokhter mit a meydl, Lee Shuldman 54.498 62.443 un ikh fleg zikh shpiln mit z<ey>, mit im, mit di meydl, un ikh fleg zayn dortn, uh, ye. un ale hobn dos gehe- gevust. Mark David 60.458 61.144 un Mark David 61.302 64.08 dos iz, de- der zun iz gelign bagrobn? Lee Shuldman 62.5 64.032 un ikh ho-... Lee Shuldman 64.032 68.765 der zun, eh, mit, mit, mit, mitn tatn hobn zey geshosn in Ponar, Lee Shuldman 68.765 72.838 un zi iz aroys fun di toyte. hot zi zikh, eh, zi iz nit geven dershosn. Lee Shuldman 72.945 76.933 s'iz geven, zet oys, di koyl iz ir nor arayn, Lee Shuldman 76.933 78.862 ober s'hot ir nit derharget. Lee Shuldman 79.358 86.906 iz in mitn, az s'iz geven nokh fintster, iz zi aroys un zi iz arayn tsu a goye a nakete, vayle zey hobn zikh dokh oysgeton, un zi hot ir dertseylt Lee Shuldman 86.906 88.312 <in ga-> altsding, Lee Shuldman 88.335 91.451 un zi iz gekumen tsu loy- tsu di shviger. Lee Shuldman 91.488 92.162 ye. Lee Shuldman 92.162 92.75 d<e->... Mark David 92.402 94.606 un v- hot zi g- gezogt epes <v->? Lee Shuldman 94.09 97.979 ot dos hot zi dertseylt, vos s'iz geshen tsu, tsum, tsu, eh... Mark David 96.047 98.032 ir hot dos aleyn gehert fun ir? Lee Shuldman 97.979 100.023 ye. tsum ir zun... Mark David 98.393 99.855 vi hot zi gekent Mark David 99.945 102.571 redn un... iz zi geven shokirt? Lee Shuldman 100.654 107.882 zi hot geredt. zi, zi iz geven SHOCKED un zi iz geven shvakh un zi iz geven, eh, s'hot, di blut hot gegosn un zi iz geven azoy vi a, Lee Shuldman 107.882 110.47 a halber mentsh. ye. ober der, Lee Shuldman 110.47 112.342 der lebn iz azoy shtark Lee Shuldman 112.872 114.604 az, eh, a- az, eh, eh, Lee Shuldman 115.588 123.014 der lebn iz sh- eh, farn lebn, eh, zet ir dokh az zi iz <a- a-> fun grub aroys, eh, un, un, zi iz gekumen tsu, tsu di shviger. Mark David 122.794 123.969 hot zi geveynt? Lee Shuldman 123.014 123.98 un dos... Lee Shuldman 123.98 127.529 <eh, hot> geveynt? eh, zi hot dokh farlorn a zun mitn man! Lee Shuldman 128.413 129.2 ye. Lee Shuldman 129.392 130.933 un zi hot moyre gehat Lee Shuldman 130.933 137.362 <az,> tsu reydn, un zi hot moyre gehat, vayl tomer dervisn zikh di daytshn, me ken ir nokh, eh... zi hot dokh shoyn gezen vos kumt for. Lee Shuldman 137.362 138.076 ye. Lee Shuldman 138.792 139.562 ye. Lee Shuldman 140.395 143.353 s'iz nit tsu bashraybn un s'iz nit tsu gleybn, Lee Shuldman 143.353 145.4 ober dos iz der emes, ye. Mark David 145.592 146.694 un, uh, Mark David 146.694 153.99 vos iz geven di diskusye? ir hot gezogt az <s'iz> geven a sofek az zi zogt d- dem emes? mentshn hobn ir nisht in gantsn gegleybt? Lee Shuldman 153.253 157.654 afile, ir zet, m'hot gezen un altsding, oder gedanken... Lee Shuldman 157.654 159.036 der mentsh iz UNK Lee Shuldman 159.036 162.14 hot dos nit gekent bagrayfn az aza zakh pasirt, Lee Shuldman 162.552 164.664 vos me hot gezen un ge- Lee Shuldman 164.664 165.08 hm, Lee Shuldman 165.08 166.792 shvarts oyf vays, ober Lee Shuldman 166.792 170.31 di gedanken hobn dos nit gekent farn- eh, ah, bag- ah, Lee Shuldman 170.31 173.21 az s'zol pasirn aza zakh, me zol shisn mentshn. Lee Shuldman 173.689 174.375 ye. Lee Shuldman 174.988 176.214 dos iz geven. Lee Shuldman 178.11 181.631 un do iz, vu ha- uh, vi m'hot undz gekhapt, eh...? Mark David 181.452 184.165 eh, no- nokh eyn frage. iz, uhm, Lee Shuldman 183.207 184.347 uhuh? Mark David 184.165 189.529 ven ayer, uh, vos iz geven, uh, di shtimung ven, uh, ayer shvester hot men Lee Shuldman 189.383 193.843 nu, ikh hob geveynt un geklogt. kh'hob geveynt, un mayn muter. Mark David 189.67 191.064 genumen? Lee Shuldman 193.843 196.921 un geveynt, un geblibn baym veynen. <un> dos iz... Lee Shuldman 196.921 197.51 ye. Lee Shuldman 197.938 200.405 un, eh, u- un es hot zikh mir gedakh- Lee Shuldman 200.405 204.206 afile haynt, az ikh gey, zog ikh, "efsher ze ikh vemen..." <eh, eh, d- eh,> Lee Shuldman 204.206 205.731 vos ikh veys az zi lebt nit, Lee Shuldman 205.731 206.808 ober, eh, Lee Shuldman 207.135 210.617 ikh volt gevelt zi zol lebn, dakht zikh mir, efsher vet zi kumen nokh. Lee Shuldman 210.617 212.994 ye, azoy vi s'zaynen mentshn in, uh, ye. Lee Shuldman 213.01 214.368 <ikh, uh,> ye. Lee Shuldman 214.999 216.174 dos iz geven. Mark David 218.104 223.363 hot men gehat, uh, a sh- a shtikl hofenung az zi vet kumen tsurik un gevart? Lee Shuldman 222.34 229.523 m'hot nit gehat keyn hofenung, nor me hot aleyn zikh gemakht, eh, dem ho- uh, ge- gehoft. veyst, me zogt, uh, Lee Shuldman 229.714 235.226 m'hot UNK gevust, az m'hot avekgefirt di gantse partyes, iz shoyn, uh, hot men avekgefirt tsum toyt, ye. Lee Shuldman 235.587 238.821 nor m'hot gehat a hofenung, efsher iz zi antlofn a mol, ober... Lee Shuldman 239.181 241.548 ye. me, m'hot gevelt, eh, Lee Shuldman 241.548 243.749 az zi zol antloyfn, hot men gehoft: efsher. Lee Shuldman 243.749 246.397 ye. ober s'iz, dos iz nit gekumen. ye. Mark David 246.775 250.211 un mitn yingele, vi hot men im, uh, avekgenumen fun shpitol? Lee Shuldman 249.508 262.023 m- m'hot, eh, fun shpitol? <v- a-> ikh veys nit; ikh bin dokh antlofn un kh'hob zikh bahaltn. zet oys, <hot er> azoy, m'hot im arayngefirt in shpitol, un nakher, eh, ye, iz er, uh, ye, iz er ar- iz mayn muter hot gevust, er iz in shpitol. Lee Shuldman 262.232 262.985 ye. Lee Shuldman 263.177 269.212 zet oys, hot <er>, mistomen di POLICE oder ver dortn; ikh ken nit zogn vayl ikh hob nit gezen. Lee Shuldman 269.32 269.938 ye. Lee Shuldman 270.602 275.152 hot er gelebt nokh a bisl, n<or> vos iz geven? alts eyns hobn zey im derharget, ye. Mark David 274.72 275.777 <hm> Lee Shuldman 276.897 277.464 ye. Mark David 277.335 278.712 iz, uhm, Mark David 280.879 282.172 ven ir z- Mark David 282.297 283.555 ven m'hot ge<z-> Mark David 283.555 285.362 geredt vegn nemen aykh Mark David 285.621 286.7 avek, Lee Shuldman 286.954 288.213 mir hobn dokh ni-... Mark David 286.954 290.593 ir zay- ir zayt geven tsvishn zey vos ho- vos zaynen gelofn Lee Shuldman 290.245 292.866 eh, ikh bin geven tsevishn di vos <zaynen> antlofn. Mark David 292.624 296.516 un vu z- vu zayt ir genoy, uh, gelofn? vu <hot ge->... Lee Shuldman 292.866 294.086 ikh hob do-... Lee Shuldman 295.594 297.275 tsurik tsum geto! Mark David 297.13 301.485 ir zay- uh, iz, f- fun vanet biz vanet? ir k- uh, bashraybt dos. Lee Shuldman 299.374 303.806 fun vanet? s'iz, eh, fun vanet biz danet iz geven azoy... Mark David 302.547 304.245 vu zayt ir geven genoy? Lee Shuldman 303.846 308.12 <eh, iz,> oyfn ban, vu mir hobn, uh, fun ban bizn g- eh, ye. Mark David 305.736 307.704 fun banhof fun Vilne? Lee Shuldman 308.12 309.934 un fun banhof, Lee Shuldman 309.934 315.112 eh, biz, iz geven a sheyne shtikl tsu loyfn, ye, ober m'iz gekumen tsu loyfn. Lee Shuldman 315.152 318.015 un, eh, der banhof iz geven Lee Shuldman 318.139 322.048 oyf eyn PLACE, ober di relsn zaynen nokh gegangen vayter oykhet. Lee Shuldman 322.071 325.78 dos iz, der banhof iz, eh, vu me geyt arayn oyfn ban, ober der ban, Lee Shuldman 325.78 328.578 di relsn vos m'hot gearbet iz gegangen nokh vayter. Lee Shuldman 328.585 331.03 s'iz gegangen biz Ponar di relsn. Lee Shuldman 331.048 331.818 ye. Lee Shuldman 331.875 335.615 mir hobn fun geto oyf Ponar oykh gearbet oyfn ban dortn, ye. Lee Shuldman 335.638 338.31 ober, eh, un dos iz geven, Lee Shuldman 338.31 341.254 eh, mir zaynen antlofn. mir zaynen gekumen in geto, Lee Shuldman 341.254 344.163 un bayn geto hot men undz in geto nit arayngelozn, Lee Shuldman 344.163 352.485 un m'hot undz tsurik aroyfgevorfn oyf di oyto, un me hot undz avekgefirt, kh'hob dokh shoyn dertseylt, oyfn, eh, ban. un m'hot undz Lee Shuldman 352.485 355.275 in di vagonen alemen arayngevorfn, Mark David 355.652 357.316 un genumen, un... Lee Shuldman 356.395 358.414 un me hot undz gefirt Lee Shuldman 358.74 359.842 bay tog Lee Shuldman 359.842 361.055 un bay nakht. Lee Shuldman 361.055 365.771 un vu me firt undz, un ven me firt undz hot men nit gevust. on esn, Lee Shuldman 366.182 368.353 un on a TOILET; Lee Shuldman 368.562 371.779 me hot gemakht eyne oyf di andere in di vagones. Lee Shuldman 371.869 374.54 ober eyn mol hot men undz epes aropgelozn Lee Shuldman 374.586 379.929 in an ander land mistome; s'iz shoyn geven bald in, eh, Letland, in Letland. Lee Shuldman 379.969 383.456 m'iz durkhgeforn Letland, un Estland nakher iz men geforn. Lee Shuldman 383.682 388.263 oder m'hot nit gevust vu un ven me iz. hot men undz aropgelozn oyf a por minut Lee Shuldman 388.263 389.261 tsu geyn Lee Shuldman 389.503 392.332 in a, uh, ye. Mark David 390.381 391.775 <bade>tsimer? Mark David 392.389 393.665 un in, uh, Lee Shuldman 392.552 393.625 un <n->... Mark David 393.84 395.808 uh, vi hot oysgezen, uh, Mark David 395.916 397.973 di vagon fun ineveynik? Lee Shuldman 397.468 399.625 eyner vegn vos me firt ferd! Lee Shuldman 399.625 408.33 vos me firt beheyme. di, di, nit keyn mentshlekhe; vos me firt, eh, shteyner, b<ehey-> vos me fir- <tovarove> b- eh, vagonen, ye. Lee Shuldman 408.623 412.144 un vi, eh, a kleyninker fentsterl, <a, a, eh,> Lee Shuldman 412.335 415.383 a pitskele, vayle s'iz far beheymes, ye. Lee Shuldman 415.643 424.828 un, eh, m'iz gelegn, eh, erger vi beheymes. beheymes, AT LEAST zey shteyen, hobn plats; mir hobn keyn plats, eyner oyf di andere gelegn. Lee Shuldman 424.828 426.842 bizkl m'iz ongekumen, Lee Shuldman 427.067 431.603 nokh a por teg, durkh nekht, iz men ongekumen nokh Estland. Lee Shuldman 431.603 434.739 vu me iz un ven me iz hot men oykh nit gevust. Lee Shuldman 435.049 437.776 nor m'hot undz aroysgelozn fun di vagonen Lee Shuldman 437.935 441.703 un m'iz, hot, un m'iz gegangen, iz men gekumen Lee Shuldman 441.703 443.559 oyf a groysn feld Lee Shuldman 443.559 445.033 mit barakn, Lee Shuldman 445.782 448.425 mit TOILETS in droysn, Lee Shuldman 448.532 450.787 un klorek iz dortn gelegn. Lee Shuldman 450.895 453.707 un, eh, m'hot undz arayngefirt Lee Shuldman 454.135 456.306 oyf b- oyf nares. Mark David 456.447 457.403 oyf vos? Lee Shuldman 457.071 460.712 nares; s'iz a pritsh, <a>, hiltserne betn azoyne. Mark David 457.965 459.022 nares. Lee Shuldman 460.712 462.852 eyne oyf di andere iz dos geven. Lee Shuldman 463.652 466.872 un me hot undz geha- un m'hot zikh dortn ge- shoyn Lee Shuldman 466.872 475.576 getrofn et- mentshn vos, eh, m'hot eyne fun di andere nit gevust. eh, ikh hob dortn getrofn a kuzinke fun an ander PLACE vos m'hot ir gekhapt. Mark David 475.971 478.749 ale zaynen geven yidishe froyen? Lee Shuldman 477.979 482.715 ale! <ye, di f- di> fun ge- di mentshn fun geto, vos m'hot aroysgefirt tsu der arbet! Mark David 480.704 484.031 <ober> mentshn zaynen geven shoyn frier dort? Lee Shuldman 483.683 485.595 NO, NO. mir zaynen gev- Mark David 484.51 487.238 ir zayt geven di ershte vos kumen on? Lee Shuldman 485.595 487.249 di ershte, di ershte. Lee Shuldman 487.249 490.882 mir zaynen ongekumen, iz geven alts frish, fayn, Lee Shuldman 490.99 495.574 un m'hot undz gegebn far tsvey teg, tsvey ober dray teg, esn, Lee Shuldman 495.85 499.202 hot men undz gegebn. m'hot undz nit gelozn arbetn. Lee Shuldman 499.225 501.885 un m'hot undz geheysn shraybn briv Lee Shuldman 501.992 503.353 in geto, Lee Shuldman 503.933 505.482 dos vos mir hobn. Lee Shuldman 505.482 509.293 nu, keyn lign hobn mir nit gekent shraybn, vayle mir hobn gehat esn, Lee Shuldman 509.299 510.744 un mir lebn, Lee Shuldman 510.767 514.071 un me hot undz, un mir arbetn nit. hot men geshribn. Lee Shuldman 514.071 516.569 un dos iz geven bay zey a propagande, Lee Shuldman 516.569 521.342 az di andere mentshn vos zey viln aroysfirn fun geto, oykhet nokh Estland, Lee Shuldman 521.517 526.337 zoln nit loyfn, un zey zoln zikh frayvilik tsushteln, un zey zoln nit... Lee Shuldman 526.7 534.437 a- az, eh, a- az me git esn un me a- un, eh, me, eh, me arbet nit un me hot a bet, iz dokh avade un avade. Lee Shuldman 534.477 538.979 iz ershtns hot men genumen di familyes vos, fun undz. Lee Shuldman 538.979 542.874 az ikh bin do geven, hot mayn muter mitn bruderl shoyn gedarft kumen, Lee Shuldman 542.914 545.068 vayle mir zaynen shoyn do. Lee Shuldman 545.547 546.606 u<n m-> Lee Shuldman 546.606 553.64 s'zaynen gekumen nakher naye transportn, ober ikh hob shoyn mayn muter mitn bruderl oykh nit gezen; m'hot zey gefirt in andere lagern. Lee Shuldman 553.748 554.4 ye. Lee Shuldman 555.081 557.319 un AFTER di dray... Mark David 556.937 561.996 ve- <uh, v-> ven ir hot geshribn, hot ir nisht bashribn, uh, dem, Mark David 561.996 563.191 di vegener, Mark David 563.35 565.423 vos ir zayt gezesn <in dem>? Lee Shuldman 563.367 573.182 m'hot nit ge- <i- i- i-> me, ikh hob nit geken- eh, ikh b- eh, ershtns hot men, eh, moyre gehat, un vos iz der shraybn? me hot undz geheysn do vos, v- ye. Mark David 572.901 574.329 UNK di lage do. Lee Shuldman 573.576 579.729 un, eh, un mistomen hobn zey gegebn azoy fil papir nor oykhet mistome. ikh gedenk shoyn nit azoy genoy, ober ikh veys... Lee Shuldman 579.853 584.099 un dos iz geven a propagande, heyst es, tsu brengen di andere mentshn. Mark David 583.6 586.564 ir hot gut farshtanen az do- az dos iz di sibe? Lee Shuldman 584.241 586.193 <i-> Lee Shuldman 586.193 593.111 eh, ye, ober, ye, shpeter hot men farshtanen. <in>, momental hot men nit farshtanen, un m'hot geheysn shray- koydem hot men geshribn az me lebt. Lee Shuldman 593.151 598.427 iz dokh dos geven interesirt far mir aleyn, az mayn muter zol visn az m'hot <m-> undz nit gefirt tsum toyt, az me lebt, Lee Shuldman 598.686 607.355 un vi me iz, <oh, eh,> az me lebt un alts. un azoy arum hobn zey nakher genumen di mentshn fun di FAMILIES, gebrakht. Lee Shuldman 607.355 610.031 nor ikh hob shoyn mayn muter nit gezen mitn bruderl, Lee Shuldman 610.031 613.226 vayle zey hot men avekgefirt in andere lagern. Lee Shuldman 613.384 617.698 un nakher hob ikh gehert az mayn bruderl hot men tsugenumen mit di kinder, Lee Shuldman 617.873 620.398 vayle er iz geven efsher tsen-elf yor. Lee Shuldman 620.742 627.182 un, eh, m'hot im oykh shoyn derharget. m'hot tsugenumen azoy vi nokh AUSCHWITZ oder vos. mit di kinder hot men im tsugenumen, dem bru-... Mark David 626.125 628.262 un vi azoy hot ir zikh dervust? Lee Shuldman 628.386 634.011 hm, nakher, shpeter, UNK, hob ikh getrofn mayn muter in a lager, shpeter, dos iz shpeter. Lee Shuldman 634.011 635.816 hot zi mir dertseylt, ye. Lee Shuldman 635.816 639.582 un akhuts d<UNK> hot men gehert az m'hot tsugenumen di kinder, afile, Lee Shuldman 639.582 644.681 nit fu- eh, fun, f-... m'hot alts ge- gehert <tsevi- eh,> mentshn hobn dertseylt, ye. Lee Shuldman 644.805 646.621 iz, hob ikh shoyn der-... Mark David 646.628 650.126 iz, ven, uh, v- ven, rekhnt ir, hot men im genumen, Mark David 650.126 651.414 dos bruderl? Lee Shuldman 650.593 659.159 azoy, uh, dem bruderl hot men genumen azoy vi me hot mir ts- eh, uh, mir hot men tsugekhapt in dray un ferts- in dray un fertsik iz dos geven shoyn. Lee Shuldman 659.335 666.619 un mayn muter iz gekumen oykhet. hot dos gemuzt zayn in di tsayt azoy, hot men di kinder avekgefirt nokh AUSCHWITZ, ye. Lee Shuldman 666.777 673.965 iz, eh, iz zi geblibn, mayn muter, aleyn, ober ikh hob ir nit gezen biz shpeter, shpeter, ven ikh hob Lee Shuldman 673.965 675.647 marshirt un ir getrofn. Lee Shuldman 675.771 681.505 un nakher zaynen mir geven, hot men, nakher hot men undz shoyn gegebn arbetn. Lee Shuldman 681.505 690.712 far di gantse dray teg vos m'hot undz nit gegebn, hot, hot men shoyn gearbet in di velder un in di felder un me hot gehorevet, UNK... Mark David 689.608 691.638 vifl meydlekh zayt ir geven Mark David 691.638 692.775 tsuzamen? Lee Shuldman 692.41 697.264 o<h,> dortn? geven a por hundert, efsher, in dem lager. hot men oyfgekha- a por hundert. Mark David 696.983 701.601 un ven m'hot aykh gegebn arbet, hot men genumen di gantse grupe in eynem? Lee Shuldman 700.442 703.713 me hot genum- NO, <ge- ey-> s'iz geven in grupes, Lee Shuldman 703.713 714.594 un eyner iz gegangen in dem zayt vald, eyner gegangen, eh, in an ander, eh, v- uh, ye. m'hot genumen grupes un m'hot undz, ye. un mir hobn gezegn beymer un m'hot gehakt di beymer. dos iz geven in Estland. Lee Shuldman 714.6 721.023 un oykhet bay di banen, un farshiden- un nakher iz geven ander, hot men geCLEANt bay di daytshn. Lee Shuldman 721.333 722.925 s'iz, eh, Lee Shuldman 722.925 725.242 farshidene arbetn, <obe->... Mark David 723.898 725.816 vos hot ir genoy geton? Lee Shuldman 725.67 728.549 ikh hob, uh, dortn hob ikh gehakt beymer. Lee Shuldman 729.045 731.699 kh'hob gehakt, eh, m'hot gezegn beymer. Lee Shuldman 731.699 735.032 m'hot i- untergezegt beymer un m'hot gemuzt tsehakn Lee Shuldman 735.032 740.497 un shlepn zey oyfleygn. uh, dos, uh, hob ikh in di velder, ye, dortn gearbet, ye. Lee Shuldman 740.706 742.019 un nakher, eh, Lee Shuldman 742.019 744.213 hot men aroysgenumen vayter, Lee Shuldman 744.213 750.456 un m'hot nokh mentsh- un s'iz gevorn nokh lagern shpeter, un nokh lagern. m'hot gebrakht nokh mentshn fun Vilne. Lee Shuldman 750.456 758.638 un di, fun, eh, di baleb- d- iber undz zaynen geven, eh, fun Holand soldatn. zey hobn undz, eh, Lee Shuldman 758.712 761.153 gehit in di velder bay der arbet. Mark David 761.293 762.572 fun Holand? Lee Shuldman 761.783 762.809 Holand. Lee Shuldman 762.809 764.51 zey zaynen Holender. Mark David 763.487 766.053 Natsis? <f- uh>...? Lee Shuldman 765.073 771.007 eh, s'iz nit ale geven Natsis. s'iz geven <natsye,> vos zey <zaynen,> mitn daytsh gearbet. Lee Shuldman 771.283 775.541 i- zey zayn- hobn gearbet, ober s'iz geven eynike gants fayne fun zey. Lee Shuldman 775.541 777.136 ye. fun di holender. Lee Shuldman 777.136 783.157 un eynike zaynen oykh geven, vos m'hot zey, eh, zaynen oykh geven oyf arbet, nor zey zaynen geven iber undz, ye. Lee Shuldman 783.501 794.025 un, eh, nakher iz fun dem lager hot men undz genumen in an ander... eh, dos iz geven Vayvare. der lager hot geheysn Vayvare. der ershter lager iz geven Vayvare in Estland. Mark David 788.55 793.096 <uh>, Vayvare heyst dos? un dos iz in Estland? Lee Shuldman 794.149 798.061 nakher hot men undz genumen avek a bisl tsayt. hot men oysgeklibn epes, Lee Shuldman 798.061 803.289 eh, tsvantsik froyen un akhtsik mener, epes bay a hundert man, un m'hot undz avekgefirt Lee Shuldman 803.599 807.913 in AUVERE, oykhet in Estland, an ander lager. Lee Shuldman 807.97 808.656 ye. Lee Shuldman 808.678 812.928 un dortn iz oykhet alts geven shvartse arbet, alts iz... Lee Shuldman 812.928 817.883 nor ikh, tsufelik bin ikh punkt dortn arayn arbetn in a kikh, Lee Shuldman 817.883 818.547 in kikh, Lee Shuldman 818.547 824.856 tsu, oyfts- tsukokhn dem kesl in der fri, heyse vaser tsu gebn ts- vos m'iz gegangen tsu der arbet. Lee Shuldman 824.98 831.943 un me fleg darfn, eh, fun, eh, arayntrogn a gantsn kesl vaser fun brunem, araynshlepn emers vaser Lee Shuldman 832.084 834.047 tsu makhn ful dem kesl, Lee Shuldman 834.047 840.6 un tsugreytn, sheyln kartofl, un tsugreytn, helfn dortn di kekhin mit, mit di andere in kikh. Lee Shuldman 841.011 843.317 un, eh, dortn... Mark David 842.614 844.515 vos hobn di andere geton? Lee Shuldman 844.42 846.923 di andere zaynen aroys tsu der arbet, Mark David 846.782 848.092 vos far a arbet? Lee Shuldman 846.923 848.045 in droysn. Lee Shuldman 848.045 851.023 oykhet oyf banen, in velder, Lee Shuldman 851.023 854.167 <i- ts- eh,> bay daytshn geCLEANt, Lee Shuldman 854.933 857.121 farshidene arbetn azoyne. Mark David 855.945 859.364 mit, uh, mit holts oykh? uh, holts, uh, Mark David 859.573 861.599 beymer arbet? Lee Shuldman 860.502 863.393 oykhet, ye. farshidene arbetn oykh. Mark David 862.003 863.316 un griber g- Mark David 863.316 864.815 grobn griber? Lee Shuldman 863.393 866.48 uh, griber, ye, farshidene azoyne, ye. Lee Shuldman 866.48 868.935 un, eh, in dem lager, Lee Shuldman 868.935 875.871 hob ikh aykh dertseylt, vos ikh hob getrofn m<a-> dem TEACHER, mayner a, eh, fun der heym iz er geven a TEACHER, Lee Shuldman 875.871 879.075 un bay undz oyfn hoyf hot di mame zayne gevoynt. Lee Shuldman 879.098 881.488 un er hot gehat a yingl in mayn elter. Lee Shuldman 882.22 883.884 un er, Lee Shuldman 884.16 890.164 zet oys az fun hunger, dar, oysgedart, hot, iz di hoyzn im aropgefaln mistomen. Lee Shuldman 890.164 895.882 er <iz> gegangen arbetn, hot er gearbet epes bay poyerim, zet oys, dortn, oyf a feld. Lee Shuldman 896.192 898.416 tsi er hot genumen a pasik, Lee Shuldman 898.416 901.265 tsi a shtrik tsu farbindn di hoyzn, Lee Shuldman 902.183 904.659 veys ikh, az er hot, Lee Shuldman 904.659 907.053 az m'iz gekumen fun der arbet... Lee Shuldman 907.903 911.727 dos iz geven in ovnt, ven m'iz gekumen fun der arbet in lager arayn... Lee Shuldman 911.785 914.091 iz geshtanen der S.S.-man, Lee Shuldman 914.468 915.677 der daytsh, Lee Shuldman 915.902 917.938 un er hot im aroysgenumen, Lee Shuldman 918.602 923.996 un er hot im tseshtokhn mit a shpiz, mit a, mit a bagnet. Mark David 921.69 922.426 mit, Mark David 923.85 925.784 mit vos hot er im bashuldikt? Lee Shuldman 926.027 932.754 az <e- e-> s'hot mistom<e> dortn, vu er hot gearbet, hot gezogt az er hot genumen a sht- pasik tsu di hoyzn. Mark David 931.782 932.926 geganvet? Lee Shuldman 932.76 934.979 <geg- hm, g->... Mark David 932.926 935.943 hot er ge- bashuldikt az er hot geganvet? Lee Shuldman 934.979 945.697 gega- efsher hot er genumen a shtrik oder a pasik; di hoyzn z<aynen> aropgefaln, hot er efsh- efsher. ikh veys nit. kh'ken aykh nit zogn genoy, vayl ikh hob dokh nit <gekent> fregn im oder ikh ho- m'hot dokh moyre gehat. Lee Shuldman 945.788 951.519 nor eyns: az vi s'iz ongekumen di partye, iz der S.S. im aroysgenumen, Lee Shuldman 951.762 953.97 un aroysgenumen di bagnet. Lee Shuldman 953.97 956.598 es geyt <aza kh->, azoy vi a meser, a bagnet. Lee Shuldman 956.757 957.864 un er hot im Lee Shuldman 958.09 959.4 geshtokhn Lee Shuldman 959.473 961.816 etlekhe mol in kerper, Lee Shuldman 961.816 967.25 un er hot im gevorfn, gedreyt, azoy vi, azoy vi a, es dreyt zikh a balo- a Lee Shuldman 967.25 968.191 balon. Lee Shuldman 968.974 971.713 un er, der man hot geshrien, Lee Shuldman 971.713 973.136 hot ir gehert Lee Shuldman 973.311 978.362 far kilometers. un me hot im nakher, az er iz shoyn geven tseshtokhn, Lee Shuldman 978.362 980.662 un m'hot im arayngedreyt azoy, Lee Shuldman 981.006 984.831 dortn iz geven a, a k- a kemerl, Lee Shuldman 984.938 991.682 vu s'iz gelegn di toyte. s'flegt ale mol shtarbn a mentsh: eh, hunger, kelt, TYPHUS, mit alts. Lee Shuldman 991.806 994.837 un m'hot im dortn aroyfgevorfn. s'iz shoyn geven Lee Shuldman 994.843 997.4 kalt azoy, harbst mistomen, Lee Shuldman 997.577 1006.042 un der man iz oyf di toyte gelegn a gantse nakht, un er hot geshrien; nit geveynt, nor geshrien far veytik, Lee Shuldman 1006.268 1008.821 az s'hot geklungen azoy, UNK, a- a- Lee Shuldman 1008.821 1015.137 a- az di mentshn... m'hot dos nit gekent bagrayfn, di ge- eh, di gevaldn, azoy vi me shekht vemen. Lee Shuldman 1015.178 1017.343 biz er iz geshtorbn in der fri, Lee Shuldman 1017.343 1021.601 <hot er,> der man, ikh hob im gekent, a sh- fayner TEACHER iz geven. Mark David 1021.472 1022.866 vi hot er geheysn? Lee Shuldman 1023.143 1023.862 I, Lee Shuldman 1024.358 1035.995 ikh veys, di mame hot geheysn Nekhame di l- eh, di kremerke, vayle zi hot gehat a krom bay undz, un er fleg kumen. ober ikh zol gedenken zayn nomen, veys i-... un Khaim iz geven der, a bruder vos hot gevoynt mit di mamen. Lee Shuldman 1036.069 1041.817 un er fl- er hot dokh shoyn nit gevoynt bay undz, nor er fleg kumen, hob ikh nor im, ober ikh ken nit. Mark David 1040.963 1043.994 iz geve- er geven a sakh elter fun aykh, mistome? Lee Shuldman 1043.511 1048.804 er iz geven shoyn a TEACHER, un er hot gehat a zun vi ikh. iz er dokh shoyn geven a, ye. Lee Shuldman 1048.86 1052.718 ober ikh hob im, fleg im zen; er fleg kumen tsu di mamen <i-,> ye. Lee Shuldman 1052.893 1056.671 un in lager iz er geven <un> hob ikh gezen di mayse, ye. Lee Shuldman 1056.671 1062.72 <oh>, azoy, biz haynt her ikh di gevaldn zayne. a mol ikh, eh, uh, zits azoy un ikh dermon zikh fun im, iz, <uh>, Lee Shuldman 1062.72 1067.889 geyt mir durkh a shoyder az ikh dermon zikh; ikh hob im azoy gekent, aza fayner man geven. Mark David 1067.862 1069.54 ho- hobn di, uh, Mark David 1069.54 1075.077 hm, di andere meydlekh gezogt epes e- eyner tsu dem tsveytn tsum treystn? Lee Shuldman 1072.292 1074.722 UNK... <tor><UNK>... Lee Shuldman 1075.152 1082.993 tsum treystn, ken men zikh treystn, ober mer hot men <zi>kh nit gekent. vos hot men gekent? m'hot dokh moyre gehat. haynt iz er, morgn ken zayn ikh. Lee Shuldman 1083.015 1086.552 iber morgn, tomer lakh ikh efsher, tomer gey ikh nit glaykh, Lee Shuldman 1086.863 1089.745 tomer hob ikh gegebn a hust, ober a nis, Lee Shuldman 1089.745 1094.265 ken ikh zayn di zelbe kapore-hindl bay zey. bay zey hot geshpilt a role, vos? Lee Shuldman 1095.334 1100.559 bay zey hot ir nit ge-... tomer hot ir gegebn a drey di kop efsher nit, <az> ir zayt geshtanen oyf an apel, Lee Shuldman 1100.768 1104.913 un ir zayt nit geshtanen glaykh, hot <e>r shoyn, eh, UNK <m'hot dokh> <UNK>geshtanen. Lee Shuldman 1105.122 1108.255 nu, dervayl- eh, un dos iz geven Lee Shuldman 1108.26 1111.679 in, dervayle bin ikh krank gevorn oyf TYPHUS, Lee Shuldman 1112.496 1114.059 bin ikh krank gevorn. Lee Shuldman 1114.521 1125.18 un ikh bin gelegn oyf dr'erd. s'iz geven aza <oy-> es hot geheysn a "shpitol." fun a blekhene pushke aza, gemakht aza TSERIF, Lee Shuldman 1125.372 1128.572 a, aza hoyz... vi zol UNK dos zogn? Lee Shuldman 1128.645 1131.052 un m'iz gelegn oyf dr'erd oyf shtroy. Lee Shuldman 1131.598 1138.207 un s'iz geven vinter; di vaser iz geven farfrorn, vayl s'iz kalt geven dortn. s'iz dokh lem vasern, s'iz dokh... Lee Shuldman 1138.838 1146.341 un di hits iz geven groys, un keyn meditsin mit dos iz nit geven. iz men gelegn; ver s'iz geshtorbn iz geshtorbn. Mark David 1146.364 1149.125 ir zayt <aven>, uh, ale- geven aleyn, Mark David 1149.418 1150.259 uh, Mark David 1150.259 1152.433 in dem krankn, uh, shtibele? Lee Shuldman 1151.005 1156.36 NO, NO, NO! s'iz geven dortn nokh. ver s'iz gevorn krank, s'iz ge- arumgegange-... Mark David 1154.717 1156.685 vifl, vifl froyen, Lee Shuldman 1156.405 1160.972 e- es iz geven efsher a fuftsn mentshn, ye. s'iz geven, eh, s'-... Mark David 1156.911 1158.086 umgefer? Mark David 1160.1 1162.625 mener mit froyen, tsi nor froyen? Lee Shuldman 1162.682 1164.511 mener mit froyen, ye. Lee Shuldman 1164.511 1171.434 s'iz geven eyn barak, eyn, eh, ye. f- un s'iz geven fun blekh aza r<u-> a halb-rundiker azoy. iz nokh kelter vi fun holts. Lee Shuldman 1171.609 1179.495 uh, nor di hits iz geven azoy groys az s'iz shoyn kalt nit geven. un <d- na-> un m'hot nit gekent esn, un az m'hot shoyn gekent esn iz nit geven vos tsu esn. Lee Shuldman 1179.495 1181.469 m'hot nakher arayngegebn epes. Lee Shuldman 1181.469 1186.427 un s'iz arumgegangen der TYPHUS, un ikh hob gehat a boykh-tifus un a lungen-ontsind- Lee Shuldman 1186.427 1188.343 m'iz dokh gelegn azoy in hits, Lee Shuldman 1188.585 1190.283 un nakher Lee Shuldman 1190.762 1194.924 hot men zikh dervu- <he- he-> m'hot zikh nit dervust, nor me hot gehert Lee Shuldman 1195.268 1196.342 az Lee Shuldman 1196.415 1197.669 di rusn, Lee Shuldman 1197.669 1200.864 di milkhome, di rusn dernentern zikh tsu Nar<ve>. Lee Shuldman 1202.254 1203.041 nu... Mark David 1202.254 1205.572 <f- v-> vos iz di tsayt itst? dos iz in Mark David 1205.663 1208.829 vinter in dray un fertsik, fir un fertsik? Lee Shuldman 1206.338 1208.734 dos iz geven, eh, Lee Shuldman 1208.734 1220.962 <hm, 'BOUT> azoy, ye, in dray un fertsik, ye, bayn ende azoy, ye, ye. bayn ende umgefer. m'hot nit gevust keyn dates; m'hot nit gehat keyn CALENDAR, m'hot nit gevust ve- vosere tog un vosere yor. Mark David 1212.16 1213.47 bay<n> detsember? Lee Shuldman 1221.019 1223.696 m'hot nor m- mer-veyniker gevust azoy. Lee Shuldman 1223.922 1225.378 iz, eh, Lee Shuldman 1225.378 1226.373 hot men Lee Shuldman 1226.373 1231.577 genumen dem gantse kranke un m'hot aroyf- avekgefirt nokh AUSCHWITZ. Lee Shuldman 1231.768 1233.091 un mir mit Lee Shuldman 1233.091 1241.364 nokh a meydl hot men oysgeshribn. far vos? kh'hob gearbet in kikh, iz, vi me zogt, dos iz efsher protektsye, efsher mazl. ikh veys nit vos tsu zogn. Lee Shuldman 1241.995 1249.954 un <az ikh bin> shoyn arayn in lager, yene hot men avekgefirt. vu, hot men dokh oykh nit gevust. nakher hot zikh aroysgevizn az m'hot zey avekgefirt nokh AUSCHWITZ. Lee Shuldman 1250.061 1251.185 <kh'>bin arayn... Mark David 1250.112 1252.89 ve- ver iz dos geven vos hot aykh geratevet? Lee Shuldman 1253.959 1266.148 fun lager, eh, hot men mir oysgeshribn, der, eh, vos ikh ho- eh, der lager-firer, a yidisher, Yankelevitsh. er iz geven a yidisher. er iz oykh gelegn oyfn TYPHUS, nakher iz er aroys. ober er iz geven der lager-fir-... Mark David 1265.08 1266.258 <ho- iz> a man? Lee Shuldman 1266.148 1270.254 er iz a man geven, Yankelevitsh. er iz, in Vilne hobn zey gehat a shnit-gevelb, Mark David 1266.258 1267.065 <ah>... Lee Shuldman 1270.665 1271.995 eh, a groysn. Lee Shuldman 1271.995 1277.007 un a fayner man geven, un er hot gehat a tokhter in an ander lager. efsher hot er gefilt Lee Shuldman 1277.007 1283.028 tsu mir vi a kin- ikh f- ken aykh nit... efsher hot er gefilt, uh, vayl er hot, <hot> gehat a tokhter in mayn elter, Lee Shuldman 1283.136 1284.801 un er hot... Lee Shuldman 1284.925 1286.47 hot er mir oysgeshribn, Lee Shuldman 1286.47 1287.686 un ikh hob g- eh, ye. Lee Shuldman 1287.793 1289.12 un THEN, Lee Shuldman 1289.579 1292.692 tsk, iz, hob ikh gemeynt, in lager Lee Shuldman 1292.692 1300.308 vel ikh epes ersht esn, efsher vo-... gekent hob ikh nit shteln a fus fun danet biz danet; ikh bin geven azoy oysgeshvakht, Lee Shuldman 1300.308 1302.274 krank, oysgekrenkt, Lee Shuldman 1302.274 1303.143 hungerik. Lee Shuldman 1303.285 1305.889 hob ikh gemeynt, in lager, kh'vel zayn efsher, Lee Shuldman 1305.889 1307.923 vel ikh a bisl kumen tsu zikh. Lee Shuldman 1307.923 1310.636 a bisl zup, efsher dos; kh'hob gehat a khaverte, Lee Shuldman 1310.71 1313.387 eh, hot zi mir gegebn epes. Lee Shuldman 1313.848 1315.794 in tsvey teg, Lee Shuldman 1315.794 1319.775 hot genumen az mir darfn ale marshirn, vayle Lee Shuldman 1320.362 1322.557 me firt undz alemen aroyset. Lee Shuldman 1322.775 1329.08 oder vos un ven, hot men dokh UNK nit gezogt, far vos me firt undz. nakher hot men zikh dervust, di rusn hobn genumen Lee Shuldman 1329.171 1332.062 geyn farne- hobn zey farnumen Narve. Lee Shuldman 1332.062 1334.801 hot men dokh undz nit lozn epes bafrayen, Lee Shuldman 1334.875 1338.919 hot men genumen marshirn un geyn in an ander lager. Lee Shuldman 1339.06 1341.399 ober m'iz gegangen teg un nekht! Lee Shuldman 1341.895 1347.137 s'iz dokh fun eyn lager tsum andern geven vayt. keyn TRANSPORTATION hot men undz nit gegebn. Lee Shuldman 1347.16 1349.57 un der vos iz geblibn hintn Lee Shuldman 1349.57 1352.672 hot men geshosn oder arayngevorfn in vaser. Lee Shuldman 1353.1 1361.194 ikh bin geblibn nit eyn mol hintn. ikh hob nit gekent WALKn; ikh bin geven krank nokhn TYPHUS, ober ikh hob a khaverte, Khayke, zi voynt in Kenede. Lee Shuldman 1361.301 1365.952 un s'iz geven nokh a man, hobn zey mir genumen unter di <A>rems un geholfn Lee Shuldman 1366.144 1368.956 mir, az ikh zol nit blaybn hintn. Mark David 1368.422 1370.694 Khayke, vi, di familye? Lee Shuldman 1369.333 1372.185 <ih>, Khayke, eh, Khayke, hm, Lee Shuldman 1372.489 1373.312 ikh, eh, Lee Shuldman 1373.312 1377.545 zi voynt in Kenede. ikh ze ir in, ven zi kumt in Floride. ikh ze ir. Lee Shuldman 1377.687 1382.068 un, eh, der man iz geshtorbn. der man iz umgekumen. Lee Shuldman 1382.226 1383.418 un zey... Mark David 1382.277 1385.73 zi hot aykh aleyn, uh, getrogn? in di hent? Lee Shuldman 1384.268 1388.767 zi... nit getrogn; zi mitn man hobn mir unter di orems. Mark David 1388.52 1390.961 ir man iz geven mit ir in, in lager? Lee Shuldman 1389.634 1393.695 nit ir man, nit ir... a man. fun lager. a man fun lager. Mark David 1391.406 1393.758 mit a man, mit a man, ah. Lee Shuldman 1393.768 1397.137 mir untern, hob zikh ongeshpart fun beydn, Lee Shuldman 1397.397 1399.646 iz mir geven laykhter tsu geyn Lee Shuldman 1399.646 1400.929 un ikh hob Lee Shuldman 1400.929 1403.715 d- gegangen mit zey tsuzamen. Lee Shuldman 1403.715 1406.3 nakher iz gekumen bay nakht, Lee Shuldman 1406.357 1408.768 iz men geblibn a gantse nakht Lee Shuldman 1408.768 1412.392 shlofn, in gas oyfn shney iz men geblibn lign. Mark David 1413.782 1417.544 vu zayt ir geven, uh, oyfn veg? ir, ir veyst? Lee Shuldman 1416.921 1419.229 oyfn veg iz men gegangen, fun Lee Shuldman 1419.229 1426.224 AUVERE iz men gegangen tsu, uh, tsu an ander lager. alts Estland. alts iz Estland geven, Lee Shuldman 1426.224 1428.351 nor fun eyn shtot tsu di ander shtot. Lee Shuldman 1428.351 1430.029 mir zaynen gegangen, ye, Lee Shuldman 1430.029 1437.233 dos iz, fun AUVERE iz men gegangen nokhn, eh, nokh an ander lager, un der ander lager hot genumen efsher tsvey teg tsu geyn. Mark David 1437.087 1439.089 un vi heyst di ander lager? Lee Shuldman 1438.217 1441.046 eh, der ander lage- EREDA hot er geheysn. Mark David 1440.934 1441.991 ERETA? Lee Shuldman 1441.66 1442.618 EREDA. Lee Shuldman 1442.618 1445.096 EREDA hot der ander lager geheysn. Mark David 1443.145 1444.084 EREDA. Lee Shuldman 1445.203 1448.656 iz men ibergeshlofn di nakht oyfn gas Lee Shuldman 1449.456 1453.79 un m'iz shoyn gekumen in EREDA oyfn ander tog bay nakht. Lee Shuldman 1453.79 1456.014 dortn hob ikh getrofn mayn muter. Lee Shuldman 1456.611 1458.14 ye. tsk, hot zi g-... Mark David 1458.062 1459.186 vi azoy Mark David 1459.378 1461.92 hot ir gefilt tsum bagegenen di mame? Lee Shuldman 1460.29 1461.06 <m-> Lee Shuldman 1461.943 1470.442 ershtns iz zi geven mit a, mit a bandazh oyfn kop. zi iz geven tsehakt, di kop hot men ir tsehakt vayl zi hot epes, hot zi dertseylt, gearbet Lee Shuldman 1470.617 1476.605 un zi hot nit gekent ma- eh, oyfheybn dem boym oder vos, ikh veys. hot men, hot zi gekrogn a hak ibern kop. Lee Shuldman 1476.605 1478.728 oykh tsebrokhn, shvakh. Lee Shuldman 1479.342 1482.73 un ikh bin oykh geven shvakh, vayl nokhn TYPHUS. Lee Shuldman 1482.73 1483.571 oder Lee Shuldman 1483.898 1488.147 lang hot men zikh nit gekent haltn, vayle di vos zaynen gekumen Lee Shuldman 1488.147 1489.46 hobn gedarft geyn Lee Shuldman 1489.804 1494.961 mit di GROUP vos m'iz gekumen. <host> nit gekent blaybn oder nemen ir oder vos. Lee Shuldman 1495.305 1505.896 uh, hot men zikh gekusht un geglet a por sho, un <a>, un m'iz vayter geblibn nekhtikn dortn in lager oyf, eh, dr'erd, vayle keyn betn far undz iz nit geven. Mark David 1505.194 1509.828 zi hot aykh, uh, ibergegebn, uh, di nayes demolt vegn, vegn bruderl? Lee Shuldman 1507.962 1510.858 hot zi gezogt az der bruderl iz nito. Lee Shuldman 1511.445 1514.351 tsk, un dan zaynen mir avek Lee Shuldman 1515.437 1519.363 in, fun dortn zaynen mir avek in an ander lager. Lee Shuldman 1519.521 1521.34 tsurikgekumen in Lee Shuldman 1521.34 1525.86 Vayvare, tsurik in Vayvare; azoy vi a punkt iz dortn geven. Lee Shuldman 1525.967 1531.229 un m'iz gekumen tsurik in Vayvare un fun dortn iz men gegangen in Kivyoli. Lee Shuldman 1531.229 1534.128 geven an ander lager in Estland, in Kivyoli. Mark David 1533.882 1537.082 vi iz men gekumen? tsu, tsu fus, <tsum>, alts tsu fus? Lee Shuldman 1535.265 1539.562 alts gegangen tsu fus! <s'iz nit,> alts tsu fus iz men gegangen. Mark David 1539.366 1542.279 vi azo- vi azoy hot ir gekent ongeyn? Lee Shuldman 1541.593 1546.644 nu, me, PLENTY mentshn zaynen gefaln un ge- oyf, oyfn gas gelegn toyte, Lee Shuldman 1546.644 1548.146 hot men zey geshosn. Lee Shuldman 1548.146 1556.117 PLENTY hot men oyf, ar- arayngevorfn in vaser dortn. s'iz geven a, gegangen a vaser, tsi di Narve, efsher hot dos geheysn, dortn. Lee Shuldman 1556.258 1557.216 eh, Lee Shuldman 1557.216 1562.559 hot men arayngevorfn in di vasern. PLENTY mentshn zaynen geblibn lign. Lee Shuldman 1562.559 1563.595 ikh zog dokh aykh, Lee Shuldman 1563.595 1565.957 az ikh bin nokh UNK geven a yunge, Lee Shuldman 1565.957 1570.123 un di tsvey, mayn khaverte un dos, hobn mir untergehaltn, Lee Shuldman 1570.146 1575.152 un hob ikh shoyn... un az m'iz shoyn gegangen iz, der impet bay mentshn Lee Shuldman 1575.411 1580.664 kumt, eh, tsi me ken tsi me ken nit. farn, me hot moyre farn toyt, azoy, me veys az, eh... Lee Shuldman 1580.664 1586.747 iz, kumt shoyn der koyekh. I DON'T KNOW vi ts- eh, ikh aleyn gleyb nit vi dos pasirt, ye. Lee Shuldman 1586.747 1588.14 ober s'hot pasirt. Lee Shuldman 1588.14 1589.954 un m'iz gekumen in Kivyoli, Lee Shuldman 1589.954 1592.983 in a tsveytn lager. in yenem lager iz men gekumen. Lee Shuldman 1592.983 1594.743 dortn iz shoyn geven a lager. Lee Shuldman 1595.273 1596.954 un mir zaynen gekumen, Lee Shuldman 1597.112 1600.948 iz, eh, al- eh, alts yidn, alts yidn dortn geven. Lee Shuldman 1600.948 1602.222 in Kivyoli, Lee Shuldman 1602.222 1608.513 un in Kivyoli iz men, eh, hot men zikh opgerut a tog, vi me zogt, un m'iz oykh gegangen tsu der arbet. Lee Shuldman 1608.621 1616.327 hob ikh, eh, gegangen arbetn, oykhet oyfn gas, oyfn hoyf, vu s'- vu me hot geshikt arbetn, iz men gegangen. Lee Shuldman 1616.62 1620.939 un dortn hot men gekrogn AT LEAST a bisl zup nakher. Lee Shuldman 1621.648 1622.705 iz, Lee Shuldman 1622.847 1626.866 langzam iz men gekumen, eh, tsu di koykhes. ye. Lee Shuldman 1627.283 1629.641 un m'iz geven in Kivyoli Lee Shuldman 1629.985 1639.786 un nakher, eh, in Kivyoli... ikh gedenk nit vi lang, UNK, m'iz geven efsher a halb yor in Kivyoli. un s'iz geven a tsveyte Kivyoli. s'iz geven eyn Kivyoli <n->, Lee Shuldman 1639.786 1641.769 Kivyoli eyns un Kivyoli tsvey. Lee Shuldman 1641.769 1645.295 nakher iz men gegangen in Kivyoli tsvey, un nakher tsurik in eyns. Lee Shuldman 1645.295 1646.189 biz Lee Shuldman 1646.189 1647.347 s'iz geku-... Mark David 1647.231 1649.115 dos iz alts Estland, yo? Lee Shuldman 1648.564 1654.886 alts Estland. un m'hot gearbet bay koyln dortn, <dos>, azoyne vayse shteyner vos brenen. Mark David 1650.22 1651.134 UNK Lee Shuldman 1655.027 1657.817 vayse shteyner; nit shvartse, nor vayse. Lee Shuldman 1657.817 1664.488 un bay di vagones; m'hot aroyfgel<o>dt, di hot opgel<o>dt, di hot... s'iz alts, alts shvartse arbet iz geven far undz. Mark David 1664.663 1668.167 ir hot gehat, <uh>, farsheydene arbet? ale Mark David 1668.207 1672.101 shvere arbet, azoy vi vos men- vos mener ton? Lee Shuldman 1669.017 1671.39 UNK shvere, shvere. m'hot ge- Lee Shuldman 1671.497 1676.421 eh, alts vi, uh, s'iz nit geven keyn untersheyd. di froyen hobn gearbet punkt vi di mener, ye. Mark David 1676.256 1679.743 un mener zaynen geven tsuzamen, in eynem mit froyen demolt? Lee Shuldman 1676.421 1676.958 ye. Lee Shuldman 1678.399 1682.68 tsk, biz Estland. Estland iz men nokh alts geven tsuzamen. ye. Lee Shuldman 1682.68 1686.341 in Estland iz men nokh alts geven froyen, mener tsuzamen, ye. Mark David 1686.955 1689.362 ken, <uh>, nokh a por frages. uh, Lee Shuldman 1688.17 1689.244 ye. Mark David 1689.553 1690.407 uhm, Mark David 1690.532 1693.31 <ih>, hot, tsi hot men aykh gegebn, uhm, Mark David 1694.129 1697.765 tsk, a, a numer, az- aza min I.D. numer? Lee Shuldman 1696.287 1697.786 ye. ye. Lee Shuldman 1697.786 1699.502 mir hobn gehat numern. Lee Shuldman 1699.502 1702.249 di numern zaynen geven azoy: oyfn kleydl, Lee Shuldman 1702.249 1704.633 a numer onge- ongeneyt, Lee Shuldman 1704.64 1707.37 mit a mogn-doved, azoy vi a yidishe, Lee Shuldman 1707.37 1713.291 mit aza pasikl, a pol- <eh, s'>iz dokh geven politishe, yidishe, hobn gehat ale andere kolirn. Lee Shuldman 1713.313 1718.026 un me hot undz oyfn haldz getrogn, azoy vi a hintl trogt a NUMBER, fun blekh, Lee Shuldman 1718.026 1719.3 aza NUMBER. Lee Shuldman 1719.3 1725.376 undz hot men nit gemakht vi in AUSCHWITZ, nor me hot undz ongeton, azoy vi a hintl a, a, a, m<'ho>t, oyfn haldz Lee Shuldman 1725.376 1727.213 hot men gehat numern, ye. Mark David 1726.746 1728.343 ir gedenkt ayer numer? Lee Shuldman 1727.826 1733.777 NO, NO. uh, ikh hob dos gehaltn un gehaltn, un ikh veys nit vu es iz farlorn gegangen. kh'hob dos gehaltn! Mark David 1729.564 1730.874 <fun> UNK Lee Shuldman 1734.019 1736.194 ye, kh'hob gehat di bl-... Mark David 1734.812 1737.534 nokh d<er> milkhome hot ir gehaltn, uh...? Lee Shuldman 1736.194 1741.441 ye! un ikh veys nit vu s'iz farlorn gegangen, ye. epes azoy. un <ikh veys nit, un> az me, Lee Shuldman 1741.441 1744.931 m'iz shoyn bafrayt gevorn, un m'<hot> zikh gefreyt, hot men shoyn Lee Shuldman 1745.578 1751.611 nit geklert farn NUMBER. der NUMBER iz gornit geven aza fargenign, vos me hot zikh gedarft onhaltn <o>n dem. Lee Shuldman 1751.611 1752.241 ye. Lee Shuldman 1752.241 1755.191 uh, ikh gedenk nit, un ikh, eh, ye. Lee Shuldman 1755.467 1756.794 un... Mark David 1755.973 1759.08 s'iz geven oyf a keyt, azoy vi a UNK...? Lee Shuldman 1757.442 1763.983 NO, oyf a shtrikele. oyf a, oyf a shnirl, ye, oyf a shnirl. NO. der, dos iz geven a blekhener, Lee Shuldman 1764.208 1770.53 oder oyf a shnirl iz dos geven, un ongeton oyfn haldz. un oy- oyfn kleydl oyfgeneyt der NUMBER, ye. Lee Shuldman 1770.807 1774.53 un, eh, nakher zaynen mir geven in Kivyoli, Mark David 1770.93 1772.219 di... Lee Shuldman 1774.637 1777.232 un ikh hob, ikh hob nokh gezen in Kivyoli Lee Shuldman 1777.232 1779.122 vi s'iz antlofn tsvey m- Lee Shuldman 1779.122 1781.789 a por mentshn tsu di partizanke. Mark David 1781.792 1784.604 mentshn zaynen gelofn tsu di partizaner? Lee Shuldman 1783.716 1786.41 ye, ye. antlofn tsu di partizaner. Lee Shuldman 1786.483 1788.446 take eyn porfolk Lee Shuldman 1788.446 1792.653 hot khasene gehat nokh di krig, un zey zaynen antlofn un zaynen lebn geblibn. Lee Shuldman 1792.677 1793.379 ye. Lee Shuldman 1793.622 1795.964 un a meydl, gedenk ikh vi haynt, Lee Shuldman 1795.964 1797.496 m'hot ir gekhapt, Lee Shuldman 1797.807 1803.504 un zi iz geven <h- v- eh,> hungerik, tsebrokhn, krank, vayle antlofn <vu, zi hot zikh> bahaltn. Lee Shuldman 1803.578 1807.306 zi hot nit derlofn tsu di partizaner, az m'hot ir gekhapt. Lee Shuldman 1807.476 1810.904 iz, hot men ir arayngenumen in shpitol, <v->... Lee Shuldman 1810.904 1813.362 zey zaynen dokh azoyne sadistn, di daytshn, geven... Lee Shuldman 1813.362 1818.861 un m'hot ir gegebn esn un trinken. zi iz geven a yunge meydl, efsher a yor fuftsn, <z-> fertsn. Lee Shuldman 1818.985 1827.113 un m'hot ir gegebn esn un trinken, un der daytsh, der g- der, der gantser firer, fleg kumen tsu ir reydn, azoy vi a tate redt tsu a kind, <hert>. Lee Shuldman 1827.574 1831.055 un hot ir gegebn esn un trinken un zi iz gevorn gezinter. Lee Shuldman 1831.055 1836.309 zi iz gekumen tsu zikh. az zi iz gevorn gezunt, hot men ir aroysgenumen hintern lager un geshosn. Lee Shuldman 1836.484 1838.067 kent ir d- bashraybn Lee Shuldman 1838.067 1840.376 aza, <uh>, di sadistkeyt? Lee Shuldman 1841.023 1849.323 dokh hot gekent shisn bald, az er hot <ir> gevelt. vos hot er arayngebrakht in lager un ir gegebn esn un trinken, az zi iz gekumen, gevorn azoy erhoylt, gezunt, Lee Shuldman 1849.323 1851.261 un nakher aroysgenumen tsum shisn? Lee Shuldman 1851.891 1854.731 dos vayzt di sadistkes fun zey, vi, vi, Lee Shuldman 1854.731 1857.932 vi di merders, vi zey zaynen geven, eh, ye. Mark David 1858.253 1859.726 di, iz, di, uh, Lee Shuldman 1858.287 1859.088 <i-> Mark David 1859.726 1862.326 di vekhter zaynen ale geven daytshe? Lee Shuldman 1862.944 1866.026 di vekhters zaynen geven bay undz Estonyer. Lee Shuldman 1866.302 1868.776 di firershaft zaynen geven di daytshn: Lee Shuldman 1868.817 1870.222 der lager-firer Mark David 1868.943 1869.809 <'KAY>. Lee Shuldman 1870.222 1872.078 un di, di hekhere, Lee Shuldman 1872.078 1874.235 ober di resht zaynen geven Estonye<r.>