Mark David 2.188 6.147 THIS IS TAPE SEVEN OF AN INTERVIEW WITH LEE SHULDMAN, Mark David 6.289 9.995 JUNE EIGHTH, NINETEEN NINETY-EIGHT, IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. Mark David 11.014 11.804 uh, Mark David 11.804 15.727 eyder mir g- on- mir geyen on vayter, uh, muz ikh bay aykh fregn: Mark David 15.727 19.588 uh, di S.S.kes, di S.S., uh, f- uh, Mark David 19.588 25.677 mentshn hobn aykh gelozt. ver hot ay- ibergenumen aykh tsu<m> firn? andere S.S.n? Lee Shuldman 22.81 28.147 andere. andere S.S., ye, andere S.S., ye. un kapos oykhet. Mark David 26.32 27.562 un, uh, Mark David 28.125 31.291 mit kapos oy- oykhet, mit yidishe kapos? Lee Shuldman 28.147 30.501 S.S. mit kapos, ye. Lee Shuldman 30.501 36.408 NO, NO. s'iz dortn geven a gemish. me ken nit, eh, s'iz geven a gemish: polkes, poyl- eh, farshidene. Lee Shuldman 36.408 38.261 ken nit zogn velkhe EXACTLY. Mark David 37.997 42.783 un di, di gefangene vos ir hot gezen, zaynen zey ale geven yidn? Lee Shuldman 42.992 44.572 in velkhe, di, eh...? Mark David 43.819 45.264 in <d-> in, Mark David 45.27 46.732 in BERGEN-BELSEN, Mark David 46.958 48.049 tsvishn... Lee Shuldman 47.076 53.421 NO, s'iz geven farshidene. in Bergen-Belzen <iz> geven farshidene NATION- <natsyonalitet>. Mark David 53.252 54.309 mhm. Lee Shuldman 53.421 54.801 s'iz geven farshidene. Lee Shuldman 54.801 55.895 s'iz g- ye. Mark David 56.61 60.148 hot ir gezen, tsum bayshpil, vos far a natsyonalitetn? Lee Shuldman 59.074 62.865 NO. ver hot gevust? ver hot ge- <ehm>...? Lee Shuldman 63.04 64.434 <ih, m'hot z-...> Lee Shuldman 64.456 67.955 eh, m'hot undz dan aribergenumen tsu di froyen-lagers. Lee Shuldman 67.955 69.632 iz in dem TSRIF Lee Shuldman 69.925 71.845 zaynen dortn nokh geven Lee Shuldman 71.845 73.124 etlekhe f- Lee Shuldman 73.253 74.537 meydlekh, Lee Shuldman 74.537 75.538 froyen. Lee Shuldman 76.32 79.048 hot men aroysgeshlept di froyen, Lee Shuldman 79.408 81.404 mit vundn oyfn... Lee Shuldman 81.404 84.678 hobn zey gehat, un m'hot zey aroysgeshlept lebedikerheyt Lee Shuldman 84.678 92.733 un aroyfgevorfn oykh dortn vu s'iz gelegn di toyte. dortn iz oykh gelegn a, a, a, a hoyfn mit toyte, eh, froyen. Lee Shuldman 92.925 97.858 un zey hobn azoy gekrekhtset. m'hot zey geshlept oyf dr'erd, hot dos geribn nokh mer. Lee Shuldman 97.858 99.838 un zey zaynen nokh lebedik geven. Lee Shuldman 100.013 106.386 un m'hot zey aroysgeshlept fun barak, un m'hot zey aroyfgevorfn oyf di toyte dortn, vos iz geven lem barak. Lee Shuldman 106.577 110.283 nakher hot men undz arayngelozn, di finf hundert froyen, Lee Shuldman 110.34 112.919 un m'iz gezesn a gantse nakht azoy, Lee Shuldman 112.919 121.007 eyner tsum andern tsugerukt mit di kni, vayle finf hundert froyen, iz dokh nit geven keyn plats zikh tsu, <uh>, Lee Shuldman 121.007 122.484 oystsien a fus. Lee Shuldman 122.659 125.201 un azoy iz men opgelegn a nakht. Lee Shuldman 125.562 129.828 kh'veys nit vos hot pasirt. oyf morgn hot men gemakht far undz Lee Shuldman 129.828 130.786 pritshn, Lee Shuldman 131.198 132.036 betn. Lee Shuldman 133.054 139.697 tsi zey hobn shoyn gevust az s'iz shoyn nont efsher ts- ende tsu di krig oder vos... zey hobn dokh gevust, di daytshn. Lee Shuldman 139.737 145.063 hobn zey efsher gevelt vayzn az m- m- me ligt vi mentshn oder vos. Lee Shuldman 145.17 150.513 un dortn iz geven a lager oykh nor tsum shtarbn, vayle arbetn hot men nit gearbet Lee Shuldman 150.756 152.069 un esn Lee Shuldman 152.069 155.906 hot men gegebn <abi>... ershtns, iz nit geven in vos tsum esn, Lee Shuldman 155.906 162.09 nor m'hot oyfgeklibn fun droysn vos s'iz geblibn fun a toytn oder vos: a tepele, a shisele. Lee Shuldman 162.653 166.882 iz ver s'hot gehat hot gehat un ver s'hot nit ge- m'hot nit gegebn keyn geshir. Lee Shuldman 167.395 172.147 un me hot g- in der fri hot men gegebn a bisl vaser azoy, <es> heyst a "tey." Lee Shuldman 172.626 176.096 iz ver s'hot gekrogn hot gekrogn; ver s'hot nit gekrogn hot nit gekrogn. Lee Shuldman 176.119 181.587 un bay tog hot men gebrakht a bisl fun, eh, farmisht fun mel aza zup. Lee Shuldman 181.587 183.893 iz oykh nit ale hobn gehat, gekrogn. Mark David 183.713 190.592 vo- vos iz geven di shtimungen in der nakht ven ir hot gevart un gezen vifl, uh, vos far a, vos f-...? Lee Shuldman 189.383 195.857 uh, biter oyfn hartsn iz geven. m'hot gezen, eh, ALRIGHT, m'iz geven in Hamburg, hot men nit gezen di toyte, Lee Shuldman 195.93 197.054 azoy fil. Lee Shuldman 197.112 205.02 in der, eh, in Estland, <eh, s'>iz geshtorbn, oder m'hot derharget, oder s'iz nit gelegn gantse berg. gantse berg mit toyte iz gelegn. Lee Shuldman 205.245 209.053 gantse berg. eyner oyf di andere, eyner oyf di andere toyte. Lee Shuldman 209.177 210.321 m'hot dos derzen, Mark David 209.26 209.695 <uh...> Lee Shuldman 210.321 211.494 hot men gevust Lee Shuldman 211.494 213.747 az mir'n oykhet do shtarbn shoyn, Lee Shuldman 213.747 214.951 un, uh, Lee Shuldman 215.033 220.595 un, eh, zeyer a shlekhte shtimung iz geven, ober vos hot men gekent ton? m'hot dokh gornit gekent ton. Mark David 220.348 222.924 keyner iz nisht gevorn histerish? Lee Shuldman 223.605 227.75 NO. ir zet, in Shtuthof iz gevorn histerish, gedenk ikh, Lee Shuldman 227.925 230.638 a, iz gekumen a doktershe mit a dokter. Lee Shuldman 230.638 236.559 hobn zey gehat PILLS un zey hobn bald genumen PILLS un zaynen ayngeshlofn. zey hobn zikh tsugegreyt, ye. Lee Shuldman 236.599 240.521 histerish. m'hot geveynt, m'hot ger- ober m'hot dokh gornit gekent ton. Lee Shuldman 240.521 248.0 vos, eh, eh, uh...? me volt nor gezen az me shrayt oder me veynt, volt men gekhapt mit a, eh, fun di, fun di daytshn a klap, fun di kapos. Lee Shuldman 248.344 249.097 ye. Mark David 249.053 254.717 me, m'hot geredt tsvishn aykh un gemakht a, me, m'hot getrofn vos vet z- zayn der sof? Lee Shuldman 249.289 250.042 s- Lee Shuldman 251.027 252.133 tsevish-... Lee Shuldman 254.098 261.432 m'hot geredt tsevishn zikh, SURE, avade. m'hot gezen, un m'hot, me, me, me, m'hot nit gedarft reydn; m'hot gezen vos vet zayn tsu undz. Mark David 260.629 263.728 un vos, vos hot ir getrakht? vos hot ir gezogt? Lee Shuldman 262.637 265.165 m'hot getrakht, "nu, vos ken men shoyn ton?" Lee Shuldman 265.165 269.196 UNK dos iz der goyrl." un m'hot getrakht az, eh, eh, Lee Shuldman 269.438 271.308 m- mir kenen zikh nit helfn. Lee Shuldman 271.308 276.316 frier eyner vet geyn, oder shpeter, <az s'> iz gelegn azoyne berg mit mentshn. Lee Shuldman 276.373 278.792 ong- berg mit mentshn. Lee Shuldman 278.792 283.134 un der lager-firer hot geheysn, dakht zikh, KRAMER, gedenk ikh vi hay-... un s'iz geven Lee Shuldman 283.208 287.246 a daytshke, a hoykhe, a l- a, a l- a lager-firerke. ir nomen gede-... Lee Shuldman 287.246 294.677 nor <p-> antis- vos heyst, m'hot moyre gehat vi far fayer far zey. far fayer hot men gornit azoy moyre vi far zey. Lee Shuldman 294.953 295.979 iz, eh, Lee Shuldman 295.979 298.001 m'hot undz gemakht di pritshn. Lee Shuldman 298.007 300.549 nu, iz men shoyn gelegn oyf di pritshn. Lee Shuldman 301.298 304.144 in eyn tog iz gekumen epes a daytsh Lee Shuldman 304.352 310.978 un hot oysgeklibn bay undz, fun di finf hundert froyen, tsen meydlekh, in kikh tsu sh- trogn vaser Lee Shuldman 311.17 312.432 in kikh arayn. Lee Shuldman 312.432 315.248 un di kikh iz geven oyfn zayt fun di mener. Lee Shuldman 316.401 319.584 flegt er kumen ale inderfri nemen di tsen froyen. Lee Shuldman 319.675 322.166 un ikh bin geven tsevishn di tsen froyen. Lee Shuldman 322.543 326.671 zet oyset az mayn mame ober got hot zikh far mir gemit. Lee Shuldman 327.387 330.395 epes hot pasirt az ikh... Lee Shuldman 330.395 335.481 epes. zet oys, kh'hob geton guts oykhet. kh'hob gegebn <v- az> ikh hob gehat, hob ikh avekgegebn. Lee Shuldman 337.495 339.643 un ikh bin dortn gegangen. Lee Shuldman 339.643 341.977 iz geven a baseyn Lee Shuldman 342.22 346.382 mit vaser, un m'hot getrogn fun dem baseyn in kikh arayn Lee Shuldman 346.962 355.596 tsu, uh, tsu makhn di keslekh mit vaser. un m'hot dos gekokht mit a bisl mel farmisht tsu makhn zup far di mentshn in lager. Lee Shuldman 355.72 358.864 s'hobn gekro- eh, eh, dortn iz geven toyznter mentshn, Lee Shuldman 358.864 362.194 un efsher hobn gekrogn hundert mentshn e- esn. Lee Shuldman 362.368 368.892 un, eh, kartofl hot men oykhet, iz geven a <sheyl-kikh> dortn, hot men dos alts geton. Lee Shuldman 370.84 379.373 in eyn, un in, un ven mir hobn gehat di nares, hot azoy bombardirt un azoy geshosn, az mir zaynen aropgefaln fun di nares. <s-> Lee Shuldman 379.373 381.566 zet oys, m'hot gesho- bombardirt. Lee Shuldman 382.585 383.456 in, Lee Shuldman 383.918 385.903 in, eh, Lee Shuldman 386.584 389.902 eyn mol shtey ikh azoy un ikh shlep di vaser, Lee Shuldman 391.782 396.9 un di daytshke shteyt dortn mit aza rut un zi shmayst: "shneler, shneler!" Lee Shuldman 396.9 399.811 un nit ikh aleyn; nokh a meydl iz oykh gegangen. Lee Shuldman 399.814 401.718 mit a mol, derze ikh Lee Shuldman 401.718 403.453 a hoykher man... Lee Shuldman 404.37 408.932 yetst farshtey ikh, un nakher hob ikh, nokh di bafrayung, az s'iz geven a tankist, Lee Shuldman 408.932 410.22 fun di tanken, Lee Shuldman 410.361 414.804 un er iz geven an Englender, ober dan hot men nit gevust ver er iz un vos er iz. Mark David 414.647 416.126 vi hot er oysgezen? Lee Shuldman 414.804 415.772 nu, a man... Lee Shuldman 415.98 422.454 a hoykher, an ander UNIFORM vi di daytshn, mit aza, oyfn kop getrogn aza hut, a<z-> eh... Lee Shuldman 422.629 424.356 ye. shpeter hot men g- Mark David 423.321 424.884 aza HELMET? Lee Shuldman 424.705 427.646 e- epes aza, vi fun di tanken. Lee Shuldman 427.646 434.199 y- shpeter, ober ven er iz gegangen, hot men gezen aza hoy- <un> er iz aroyf dortn bizn KREMATORIUM. Lee Shuldman 434.593 438.451 nakher iz er gegangen tsurik, un er hot gezen az di daytshke Lee Shuldman 438.458 443.227 shmayst mitn rut, iz er tsu tsu ir, un geheysn ir avekleygn di rut. Lee Shuldman 443.892 448.611 azoy vi er hot ir geheysn di rut avekleygn, hot genumen arbetn di kop: Lee Shuldman 448.785 451.513 "vos kumt do for? vos iz do?" Lee Shuldman 452.43 458.409 a daytsh vet dokh nit heysn avekleygn di rut. hot men genu- un me zet dokh epes, er geyt onget- az s'iz nit a daytshisher. Lee Shuldman 458.409 461.503 ober m'hot alts nit gevust vos do kumt for. Lee Shuldman 462.538 466.379 mit eyn mol... iz dos geven mistome a zeyger elf-tsvelf. Lee Shuldman 466.909 467.91 dos iz, eh, Lee Shuldman 467.91 469.923 eh, APRIL <THE> fuftsn. Lee Shuldman 471.297 475.52 un ale daytshn fun oybn, vos zaynen gezesn Lee Shuldman 475.52 479.103 oyf di budke<s> vu zey flegn oybn hitn un shisn arop, Lee Shuldman 479.515 484.824 un di fun kikh, di daytshn, un dortn nokh daytshn vos hobn zikh, eh, gedreyt... Lee Shuldman 485.623 491.0 hot men farmakht di kikh. di keslekh hobn gekokht, vayle s'iz dokh geven nokh... Lee Shuldman 492.036 495.101 un zaynen ale mit a mol avek. Lee Shuldman 495.431 504.366 az s'zaynen ale avek mit a mol, hot men vayter genumen klern: "vos kumt do for? epes kumt do for, oder mir veysn nit vos es kumt for." Mark David 503.933 505.867 de- der Englender iz avek? Lee Shuldman 505.941 507.96 NO, di daytshn, di daytshn. Mark David 506.852 510.153 oh, der, der, der Englender iz geblibn do mit aykh? Lee Shuldman 509.603 513.329 NO, NO. der man iz avek tsum lager, un avek tsurik. Mark David 510.767 512.415 er iz farbaygegangen. Lee Shuldman 513.329 518.81 zet oys az zey zaynen geven dortn bayn toyer fun lager, fun, eh, fun onheyb lager. Lee Shuldman 519.087 524.616 un, eh, d- dortn iz geshtanen di komendantur oykh, di daytshishe gantse firershaft. Lee Shuldman 524.824 533.272 un di ale daytshn, alts avek. der lager iz toy- nit oybn keyn gever mit daytshn, nit in kikh NOBODY; farhakt, farmakht. Lee Shuldman 533.481 537.072 di mener zaynen geven antkegn, hinter drotn, Lee Shuldman 537.072 540.191 un lem kikh iz gelegn ongeshotn kartofl Lee Shuldman 540.568 542.553 tsum sheyln, tsum kikh. Lee Shuldman 542.982 547.639 di mener hobn derzen az keyner <iz> nito, oder vos un ven v- uh, veys men nit. Lee Shuldman 548.162 549.382 zaynen zey Lee Shuldman 549.382 558.782 aroysgeshtupt dem toyer, dem, uh, dem, d<i> hiltsernem toyer, un aroyfgelofn oyf di kartofl, khapn a kartofl; zaynen dokh hungerik ale geven. Lee Shuldman 558.782 562.314 hungerik! dortn i- iz geven a lager tsum shtarbn. Lee Shuldman 564.193 567.967 efsher in a halbe sho a- eh, hot genumen, Lee Shuldman 568.699 573.772 hostu gezen: oyf ferd zaynen gekumen tsurik di daytshn mit vayse lentes Lee Shuldman 574.403 579.729 un aroyfgelofn oybn tsu di gever un genumen shisn Lee Shuldman 580.292 583.593 oyf di mener vos zaynen gelegn oyf di kartofl. Lee Shuldman 583.701 588.302 un bay undz iz arayngelofn der daytsh fun kikh mit a revolver in hant. Lee Shuldman 588.46 590.279 "mener, mener!" hot er gezukht. Lee Shuldman 590.279 595.246 mir hobn aleyn geshtanen, hot undz gevorfn; zey kenen dokh undz oykh shi- se shpilt a, a, me, eh... Lee Shuldman 596.121 599.507 un oysgeshosn a por sheyne y- mener. Lee Shuldman 601.707 606.071 in, efsher in a fuftsn-tsvantsik minut arum Lee Shuldman 606.145 608.619 iz geforn a tank, take Lee Shuldman 608.642 611.994 a tank azoy vi der man vos iz geforn, Lee Shuldman 612.338 616.35 un in ale shprakhn gezogt az mir zaynen bafrayt. Lee Shuldman 616.928 622.792 in yidish, in poylish, in rusish, in ale shprakhn: mir zaynen bafrayt. Lee Shuldman 623.29 630.878 iz, shtelt zikh for: m'iz shoyn geven bafrayt, vayl zey zaynen geshtanen bayn toyer, un der tankist iz dokh geven in lager, Lee Shuldman 631.052 635.311 un di daytshn hobn dokh shoyn getrogn lentes. zey hobn zikh dokh shoyn untergegebn, zet <oy-> Lee Shuldman 635.311 640.546 un zaynen gekumen tsurik un di mener geshosn. dos iz shoyn geven efsher a sho Lee Shuldman 640.587 644.11 vi der tank hot shoyn gezogt az mir zaynen bafrayt, ober bafrayt Lee Shuldman 644.11 648.194 zayne- iz men dokh shoyn geven, vayl der Englender <iz dokh> geshtanen bayn toyer fornt. Lee Shuldman 648.194 650.43 hot men oysgeshosn azoy Lee Shuldman 650.43 652.19 sheyne por mener Lee Shuldman 652.433 654.802 vos zaynen gelegn oyf di kartofl. Lee Shuldman 655.555 660.799 un nakher, nu, nakher iz dokh gevorn a <he-> a, hot men di daytshn Lee Shuldman 660.799 662.399 ale tsugenumen. Lee Shuldman 662.49 664.509 un ikh gedenk nokh vi haynt Lee Shuldman 664.583 671.951 vi s'iz gegangen vayter nokh a, oykhet a militer-man mit dem lager-firer, KRAMER hot er... Lee Shuldman 671.974 673.489 un tsum Lee Shuldman 673.489 678.923 gaz-kamer, un nakher tsurik, un nakher hobn mir gezen vi er hot im aropgenumen dem zeyger, Lee Shuldman 678.923 682.954 un aropgenumen dortn zayne epoletn, vosEVER er hot gehat, Lee Shuldman 682.977 687.78 un m'hot im arestirt. eh, dakht zikh az me hot im derharget, oder mir veysn nit. Lee Shuldman 687.82 690.331 un di daytshkes vos UNK zayn, Lee Shuldman 690.331 699.102 hobn mir gevelt ale fun zey aropraysn di shtivl tsu nemen, ontsuton far undz, oder epes... di Englender hobn undz nit tsugelozn tsu zey. Lee Shuldman 699.102 703.828 zey hobn undz nit tsugelozn. zey hobn zey azoy gehit; zey hobn... me hot zey gevelt tseraysn, obe-... Lee Shuldman 704.307 706.883 nakhe- uh, dos iz geven in lager, Lee Shuldman 706.905 712.029 un mentshn zaynen geshtorbn. far vos? m'iz geven mitn TYPHUS krank. Lee Shuldman 712.542 724.703 un az me hot geefnt dortn di k- di skladn, vu s'iz geven broyt mit tsuker mit esn, vos m'hot undz nit gegebn... s'iz efsher geven far di daytshn oder s'iz geven efsher far di, fa- ikh veys nit... Lee Shuldman 724.843 730.49 hot men genumen khapn un esn, ober m'hot dos nit getort, vayle m'iz geven Lee Shuldman 730.733 734.239 oysgedart, nit gegesn, iz der mogn geven, Lee Shuldman 734.239 736.363 eh, zeyer DELICATE. Lee Shuldman 736.605 740.354 iz a sakh mentshn zaynen geshtorbn nokh di bafrayung. Mark David 739.205 744.149 fun aykh, uh, fun di finef hundert meydlekh fun, fun Hamburg...? Lee Shuldman 742.343 744.491 zaynen mir ale lebn geblibn. Mark David 744.149 746.42 ay- ale lebn geblibn? hm. Lee Shuldman 744.491 750.0 ale lebn geblibn. ale le- un dortn hobn mir gefunen di vos m'hot aroysgenumen fun Hamburg, Lee Shuldman 750.0 753.468 di froy vos hot geshvangert, vos zi hot gehat dem yingele. Lee Shuldman 753.468 756.562 Rokhke hot zi geheysn, un zi hot gegebn a nomen Sholem. Lee Shuldman 756.562 761.687 hot men ir dortn gefunen ven mir zaynen gekumen in Bergen-Belzen, un di andere froy vos zi hot gehat mit di lungen. Lee Shuldman 761.687 764.884 ye. mir zaynen ale lebn geblibn, ye, di finf hundert froyen. Lee Shuldman 764.884 768.44 mir tre- mir hobn nokh a mol, trefn mir a mol zikh. Mark David 768.297 769.303 uh, <i><UNK>... Lee Shuldman 768.482 776.829 ye. ikh hob a por vos ikh bin geven in lager, ye, hob ikh, eh, zey kumen in di, uh, in di <CA-> eh, in di COUNTRY Lee Shuldman 776.97 780.089 un in Floride. un ikh hob a khaverte Lee Shuldman 780.089 782.433 vos mir hobn gearbet in Hamburg Lee Shuldman 782.433 791.189 un i- ikh bin, un zi hot gehat a mame. hobn mir zikh tsugetulyet; ikh bin, eh... un mir haltn zikh vi shvester. zi hot mir geshikt afile dem AFFIDAVIS Lee Shuldman 791.348 797.057 nokh, eh, fun Yisroel nokh Amerike tsu kumen. <zey> voynen in, in, eh, Lee Shuldman 797.057 799.522 Minesote. zey hobn a FACTORY fun HAT. Mark David 799.363 800.369 vi heyst zi? Lee Shuldman 799.522 800.37 <n-> Lee Shuldman 800.697 804.111 eh, zi heyst, eh, <Refovitsh>. Lee Shuldman 804.111 805.19 <Refovitsh>. Mark David 804.938 805.636 uhuh. Lee Shuldman 805.19 806.495 ye, zey hobn, ye. Lee Shuldman 806.637 810.042 un di mame iz geshtorbn, ALRIGHT, zi iz geven, uh, ye. Mark David 809.893 811.54 ir nomen iz...? Lee Shuldman 810.042 811.069 un... Lee Shuldman 811.463 812.317 ha? Mark David 811.733 813.111 vos iz ir nomen? Lee Shuldman 813.032 814.636 di mame's iz geven <Rot->... Mark David 813.758 814.68 neyn. Lee Shuldman 814.636 819.253 eh, eh, <Refovitsh, Tsil> un Sh- SAM. er iz a Varshever un zi iz a Vilner. Lee Shuldman 819.31 823.458 mir z- un mir haltn zikh nokh haynt vi shvester; kh'hob ir take geCALLt di vokh. Lee Shuldman 823.458 824.158 ye. Lee Shuldman 824.158 827.018 un, eh, in, eh, Hamburg Lee Shuldman 827.018 829.06 iz, zaynen mir aroys oyfn mist, Lee Shuldman 829.06 832.882 hobn mir gekha- uh, s'iz geven dortn, az zey flegn sheyln far di daytshn, Lee Shuldman 832.882 835.52 eh, di kartofl flegn zey opsheyln, Lee Shuldman 835.527 839.288 iz d<i> mist... hot eyne gearbet in kikh, hot zi undz gezogt Lee Shuldman 839.288 842.659 az di sholekhts hot zi aroysgeshtelt bay di GARBAGE bay nakht. Lee Shuldman 842.682 845.396 fleg ikh aroysloyfn un brengen di sholekhts, Lee Shuldman 845.396 849.882 un mir flegn dos oysvashn un, eh, makhn a gutn ME- Lee Shuldman 850.123 853.588 UNK <a sho-> UNK vos, s'iz dokh geven abi optsuesn, ye. Lee Shuldman 853.588 859.604 ober, spn, ven me khapt undz, git men undz oykhet, eh, <p-> eh, t- hot men nit getort, nor Lee Shuldman 859.604 861.474 far hunger tut men alts. Lee Shuldman 861.48 865.001 me klert nit az m'vet d<i>r hargenen, oder me klert nit... az m'iz hungerik Lee Shuldman 865.007 866.624 tut men altsding, Lee Shuldman 866.624 867.605 khapt men. Mark David 867.319 872.949 iz geven tsvishn aykh, uh, emetser vo- vos hot ongefirt tsvishn di finef hundert meydlekh? Lee Shuldman 867.762 868.656 ye? Lee Shuldman 871.909 878.514 oh ye, s'iz geven, in barak iz geven a shtub<ev->, a shtubove, in ershtn barak un in tsveytn. Lee Shuldman 878.514 879.834 ye, zi hot ongefirt. Lee Shuldman 879.84 883.813 un tsu der arbet hot undz gefirt oykhet aza eltere, ye. Lee Shuldman 883.813 892.13 ober zey hobn undz nit ge- di, bay di finf hundert, zey hobn undz nit geharget, zey hobn undz nit getshepet, di, di, nit di shtubove un nit di, NO. Lee Shuldman 892.13 893.318 mir zaynen... Mark David 892.317 895.814 m'hot zey nisht gehaltn far a soyne f- uh, azoy vi a kapo? Lee Shuldman 895.433 899.696 NO, zey zaynen nit geven azoy. zey zaynen geven take sht- eltere. Lee Shuldman 899.803 909.956 eh, zey hobn gehat a bisl mer esn, vayl <zey zaynen gev-> ober zey hobn undz nit, eh, <zey> zaynen geven fayn tsu undz, ye. zey zaynen nit, di meydlekh zaynen geven fayn tsu undz, un mir zaynen ale bafrayt gevorn. Lee Shuldman 909.979 911.773 ye. <uh>... Mark David 910.468 917.785 iz, uh, glaykh de- nokh dem, in, in der sho vos ir zayt bafrayt gevorn, vos hot men genumen ton? vos hot ir genumen ton? Lee Shuldman 914.299 915.609 oy! Lee Shuldman 915.987 918.557 oy, ershtns iz men gelofn Lee Shuldman 918.557 923.615 tsu di, v- vu s'iz geven esn. hot men oyfgerisn di skladn un m'hot geges- gegesn. Lee Shuldman 923.615 925.329 m'iz baf- m'hot <z-> aro<yf>geleygt Lee Shuldman 925.386 927.256 broyt, marmelad, Lee Shuldman 927.256 931.534 tsib-... vos s'iz dortn geven. m'iz gegangen un di d- Englender hobn undz nit gelozn. Lee Shuldman 931.534 933.176 mir hobn nit farshtanen. Mark David 932.503 933.503 <s->... Lee Shuldman 933.385 938.154 vayle m'iz geven oysgedart, oysge- m'hot nit getort esn. Lee Shuldman 938.295 944.004 m'hot gedarft onheybn azoy, zey hobn undz gege- un az zey hobn undz oykh nit gegebn bald azoy fil, hot men zey Lee Shuldman 944.004 947.455 gesholtn un geshrien, punkt vi di daytshn. un az zey hobn nit gelozn undz... Lee Shuldman 947.455 949.59 ober m'hot nit gekukt, m'iz gegangen Lee Shuldman 949.59 956.008 shik- azoy vi shikere mentshn, un mentshn zaynen gefaln krank, vayle zey zaynen geven krank, ye. Lee Shuldman 956.031 961.428 un s'iz gekumen bald der Royter Kreyts un tsugenumen a sakh in di shpiteler, vayle s'iz dokh geven Lee Shuldman 961.428 963.652 TYPHUS kranke un dos o. Lee Shuldman 964.047 971.537 un me hot getantst un geshprungen un geshprungen krankerheyt un me hot gehulyet un m'iz geven azoy freylekh. Lee Shuldman 971.537 972.337 un Lee Shuldman 972.337 974.449 nakher iz gekumen Lee Shuldman 974.449 979.727 a bafel az me zol aroys fun dem shmu- un in di lagern dortn iz gelegn F- Lee Shuldman 979.727 984.403 MOUNTAIN FURS vos zey hobn ongeshlept fun ale mentshn vos zaynen gekumen, Lee Shuldman 984.403 991.609 un p- ge- farpakt avektsufirn far zey, far di daytshn. ober in lager hobn zey dos alts, fun azoy fil mentshn geven. Lee Shuldman 991.609 993.996 gantse magazinen iz geven Lee Shuldman 993.996 1003.764 mit glezer un mit FUR COATS un mit kold- un di beste zakhn, vos zey hobn dos far zikh alts, eh, zey zoln dos, eh, far zikh nemen. Lee Shuldman 1004.158 1008.269 iz, eh, m'hot gekhapt, ongeton zikh, ober Lee Shuldman 1008.343 1010.339 me hot gezogt az Lee Shuldman 1010.339 1014.474 me vet undz alemen durkhloyzn. dos heyst, mit aza vaysn POWDER. Lee Shuldman 1014.474 1016.994 m'hot zikh alts oysge- gedarft oyston. Mark David 1015.768 1017.821 mit a vaysn, a puder? Lee Shuldman 1017.304 1018.541 a puder, Mark David 1018.221 1018.691 <uh>... Lee Shuldman 1018.541 1019.503 vayle Lee Shuldman 1019.503 1022.635 di tifus un MAYBE layz un MAYBE vos. Lee Shuldman 1022.635 1027.136 un m'hot undz alemen durkh- azoy durkhgepudert. s'iz avek efsher a vokh tsvey. Mark David 1025.817 1028.262 <hm>, ver hot dos geton? uh, Lee Shuldman 1027.294 1030.173 di Englender. dos iz geven a... Mark David 1028.262 1031.473 englishe... menershe soldatn tsi vayber? Lee Shuldman 1031.878 1032.471 n- Lee Shuldman 1032.644 1033.644 <uh, eh,> Lee Shuldman 1034.06 1037.289 mit di kleydl. iz, ikh gedenk, ye, hot men undz... Mark David 1034.989 1038.324 oh, mit di kley- oh. oh, oh, s'iz geven iber di kleyder? Lee Shuldman 1037.289 1040.293 iber di, ye. hot men undz azoy iberge-... Lee Shuldman 1040.293 1042.829 un me hot undz avekgefirt Lee Shuldman 1042.869 1048.736 in di kosharn, do vu s'zaynen di daytshn geshtanen, d<i s-> militer. der lager iz dokh geven Lee Shuldman 1048.962 1050.03 toyte, Lee Shuldman 1050.03 1052.855 un hiltserne barakn alts, Lee Shuldman 1052.855 1056.974 un ongemakht un altsding; d- eh, s'iz dokh geven a toyte<r> lager. Lee Shuldman 1056.974 1062.981 hot men undz aribergefirt in militerishe, in sheyne ROOMkes, mit alts. Lee Shuldman 1062.981 1065.006 dan zaynen mir ale ariber... Lee Shuldman 1065.006 1067.04 nokhn antloyzn un alts Lee Shuldman 1067.04 1071.551 iz men ariber, un dortn hobn mir shoyn gekrogn fun di UNRRA Lee Shuldman 1071.793 1075.466 esn. s'iz geven a kikh, un me fleg geb- Mark David 1074.072 1075.871 <hm,> vo- vos heyst UNRRA? Lee Shuldman 1076.123 1081.071 tsk, der JOINT, der UNRRA, hot dos geheysn. Amerikaner, eh, Mark David 1079.443 1082.283 <s-> an organizatsye? Lee Shuldman 1081.071 1083.096 azoy v- ye, organizatsyes. Lee Shuldman 1083.096 1088.403 eh, azoy vi do, Amerika- az m'iz gekumen, hot geholfn der HIAS, der dos; Lee Shuldman 1088.403 1091.194 dortn iz geven di UNRRA, hot men dos gerufn. Lee Shuldman 1091.217 1098.731 eh, yidishe organiz- un MAYBE fun Amerike, un m'hot geshikt peklekh un m'hot undz gegebn, un MAYBE der Royter Kreyts. Lee Shuldman 1098.731 1101.251 un m'hot undz shoyn gegebn esn. Mark David 1099.924 1100.711 vu... Mark David 1101.055 1103.884 un vu zayt ir geshlofn oyf der ershter nakht, Mark David 1104.143 1105.824 nokh der bafrayung? Lee Shuldman 1104.193 1105.206 nokh di ba-...? Lee Shuldman 1105.206 1115.732 iz, eh, oh, dortn iz men gelegn oyf di pritshn. nokh di bafrayung iz men nokh alts, <iz men> nokh geven efsher dray vokhn, eh, eh, tsvey, eh, tsvey vokhn iz men nokh alts geven in dem shmutsikn lager, Lee Shuldman 1115.732 1117.319 bizkl, eh... Lee Shuldman 1117.319 1122.699 nakher hot men undz, eh, durkhge- "antloyzt," heyst dos. me hot undz, eh, Lee Shuldman 1123.06 1124.484 eh, a disinfektsye. Mark David 1123.971 1128.858 iz dos nisht geven a groyse sakone tsu blaybn dort mit di, uh, mit di bergn? Lee Shuldman 1124.484 1125.484 a di-... Lee Shuldman 1127.309 1131.055 uh, ir't nit gehat keyn eytse! dos iz, <eh, he, me...> Lee Shuldman 1131.055 1136.995 eh, me hot undz a disinfektsye gemakht, mit altsding. hot men undz aribergeshikt in di barakn, Lee Shuldman 1136.995 1140.671 eh, do vu di soldatn zaynen geven. Lee Shuldman 1140.778 1143.725 un dervayle hobn mir gehat aza nekome: Lee Shuldman 1143.782 1151.909 eh, di daytshn, eh, di daytshn vos zaynen geven in lager hobn gedarft oyfklaybn ale toyte fun di gantse lager Lee Shuldman 1151.983 1153.833 un aroyfleygn oyf Lee Shuldman 1153.907 1155.149 oytos. Lee Shuldman 1155.409 1159.993 un, eh, zey zaynen shoyn geven on di HAT, un <ir> veyst dokh, <azoy, nor> dem... Lee Shuldman 1160.151 1170.846 un, eh, u- un di toyte zaynen gelegn, do<rt> gelegn f- mistome far monatn. iz geg- ge- zet oys, s'iz geven aza shl<yuz>, aza, azoy vi a vaser, aza glitshiker, Lee Shuldman 1170.846 1172.717 azoy vi fleysh, ligt v<UNK>... Lee Shuldman 1172.841 1174.146 iz, zet oyset, Lee Shuldman 1174.146 1177.256 <ho-> vayl ikh hob gezen vi zey hobn zikh azoy gevisht. Lee Shuldman 1177.414 1182.76 un, un mir zaynen geshtanen un gekukt un m'hot gekhapt shteyner un gevorfn oyf zey, Lee Shuldman 1182.76 1185.558 ober di Englender hobn undz oykh nit tsugelozn. Lee Shuldman 1186.122 1194.472 un, un di eyntsike nekome: mir zaynen geshtanen un geshrien oyf zey un gevorfn shteyner, un di nekome iz geven groys. un zey hobn Lee Shuldman 1194.472 1197.104 ongeleygt gantse oytos mit di toyte, Lee Shuldman 1197.104 1200.679 un s'iz geven oysgegrobene griber, groyse griber, Lee Shuldman 1200.837 1207.328 un m'hot ale dortn... oder dortn hostu ale NATIONS; me veys nit ver s'iz a yid un ver s'iz a goy, vayle Lee Shuldman 1207.384 1209.988 s'iz gelegn ongeleygt gantse, ye. Lee Shuldman 1209.988 1217.299 un mit, eh, un mener un froyen, iz alts lign in, eh, e- etlekhe griber iz dortn do. Lee Shuldman 1217.299 1219.337 nor dos iz geven undzer nekome, Lee Shuldman 1219.337 1220.54 az zey hobn, Lee Shuldman 1220.597 1221.48 eh, eh, eh, Lee Shuldman 1221.48 1226.778 a nekome undzer tsar, ober di nekome az zey, eh, zaynen geven gefangene, ye. Lee Shuldman 1226.778 1229.922 un zey hobn opgeCLEANt di lagern fun ale toyte. Lee Shuldman 1230.03 1234.462 un m'hot zey arestirt, eh, un, eh, ikh veys vos m'hot mit zey geton. Lee Shuldman 1234.536 1242.917 un nakher hot men undz arayngeshikt in di lagern vu zey zaynen geshtanen, in di geboyte militerishe hayzer, in Bergen-Belzen, ye. Lee Shuldman 1243.041 1250.122 bizkl, eh, nakher, yederer hot zikh shoyn, eh, gekumen tsu zikh un, eh, yederer hot zikh shoyn gezukht, Lee Shuldman 1250.179 1254.708 eh, aroystsugeyn. nakher, eh, iz men aroys; Lee Shuldman 1255.292 1258.559 efsher a dray-fir vokhn iz men aroys shoyn in shtot. Lee Shuldman 1258.785 1262.93 vayle der lager iz nokh alts geven farshpart; m'hot undz <nokh> nit gelozn aroysgeyn. Lee Shuldman 1262.987 1264.14 andere, Lee Shuldman 1264.14 1274.642 eh, zaynen gegangen, vos zey hobn gerabevet bay di d- eh, zey hobn tseharget di daytshn nokh di krig, alts. <mi- undz> hot men nit aroysgelozn. iz shoyn geven efsher dray-fir vokhn, Lee Shuldman 1274.648 1277.884 hobn mir shoyn gornit, eh... nor ven mir zaynen aroys, Lee Shuldman 1277.884 1282.314 iz geven a sakh leydike daytshishe hayzer. far vos? zey hobn moyre gehat, Lee Shuldman 1282.314 1283.673 az di katsetler... Lee Shuldman 1283.673 1288.567 zey zaynen dokh a- arum di lagern gevoynt, hobn zey dokh moyre gehat az m'vet zey efsher epes ton. Lee Shuldman 1288.567 1296.393 iz geven, eh, a bisl leydike hayzer, ober, eh, mir hobn zey gornit gekent ton, vayle s'iz geven der lager nokh alts farshpart. Mark David 1295.961 1299.735 mit, mit vemen zayt ir gegangen? mit etlekhe khaveyrim? Lee Shuldman 1299.066 1303.015 etl- khavertes, meydlekh. nakher iz men aroys, nakher iz men, Lee Shuldman 1303.015 1304.286 eh, hot men gevart; Lee Shuldman 1304.286 1309.635 iz gekumen, shpeter zaynen gekumen fun andere lagern, a mol a bruder fun an ander lager, Lee Shuldman 1309.635 1313.094 un s'iz geven... un m'hot zikh arumgekhapt az s'iz gekumen ver Lee Shuldman 1313.094 1321.503 vos iz lebn geblibn. oy, hot men zikh arumgekhapt un geveynt un gefreyt zikh az s'iz, az s'iz ver lebn geblibn, <iz> gekumen fun andere lagern. Lee Shuldman 1321.51 1326.662 un nakher, eh, iz men gegangen shoyn, iz men shoyn fray geven. Lee Shuldman 1326.662 1327.436 ye. Mark David 1326.775 1328.383 vu hot, uh, Mark David 1328.383 1332.995 uh, vos hot ir geton kedey tsu gefinen, <uh>, mishpokhe, kroyvim, epes? Lee Shuldman 1332.057 1341.571 ikh veys az ikh hob nit gehat. kh'veys, mayn tatn hot men tsugenumen, mayn bruder hot men oykhet, un mayn shvester hot men tsugenumen, mayn mame v- hob ikh gevust, un mayn bruderl, hob ikh gevust az ikh hob keynem nit. Lee Shuldman 1341.571 1343.697 un a kuzinke iz geven mit mir. Lee Shuldman 1343.697 1346.076 zi iz yetst in Yisroel. zi iz geven <in> eynem... Lee Shuldman 1346.076 1349.819 un dos iz di eyntsike, ye. az m'hot nit gehat, ye. Mark David 1349.033 1352.047 eh, vos, vi heyst di kuzinke vos iz geven mit aykh? Lee Shuldman 1351.8 1352.924 Merele. Mark David 1352.61 1353.633 Merele? Lee Shuldman 1352.948 1353.769 z- ye. Lee Shuldman 1353.995 1355.425 un, eh, d-... Mark David 1354.55 1356.671 zi iz geven tsvishn di finef hundert? Lee Shuldman 1355.867 1357.163 ye. ye. Mark David 1356.866 1357.34 <ah>. Lee Shuldman 1357.163 1359.619 un dos iz, uh, di... Lee Shuldman 1359.619 1362.538 un m- un a tante hob ikh. eh, zi, eh, zi iz geven Lee Shuldman 1362.538 1366.053 fun di likvidatsye fun yidishe g- eh, fun di Vilner geto. Lee Shuldman 1366.397 1370.908 zi iz geven fun di letste, fun di likvidatsye. zi iz geven in, eh, Lee Shuldman 1370.987 1375.79 in Letland. zey hot men avekgefirt, di likvidatsye UNK, a sakh nokh AUSCHWITZ, Lee Shuldman 1376.1 1377.928 un a sakh nokh Letland. Lee Shuldman 1377.928 1383.678 zi iz geven in Letland. un ir kind iz dos geven vos m'hot tsugenumen dan, vos kh'hob aykh gezogt, zibn-akht monat. Lee Shuldman 1383.694 1384.34 ye. Lee Shuldman 1384.34 1386.455 un zi iz bafrayt gevorn, ye. Lee Shuldman 1386.671 1387.206 ye. Mark David 1386.725 1387.806 hot ir ge- Mark David 1387.828 1390.252 gezukht tantes un...? Lee Shuldman 1389.28 1391.892 me hot gezukht, me hot gezukht, ober... Mark David 1390.849 1393.595 vi azoy, vi hot ir, vi azoy hot <men>...? Lee Shuldman 1391.892 1392.776 vi azoy? Lee Shuldman 1392.776 1396.912 koydem-kol iz azoy: gedenk ikh, m'iz gefo- uh, me, me, eh, s'iz geven, Lee Shuldman 1396.912 1401.005 eh, m'iz geforn nokh Feldafing, m'iz geforn nokh Minkhen, Lee Shuldman 1401.005 1403.182 un m'iz arayn in di kehiles, Lee Shuldman 1403.182 1411.717 un m'hot ongeshribn di nemen, ver s'- eh, di, un ver, s'iz gekumen andere, hobn ongeshribn zeyer<e> n<e>men. hot men a mol zikh gefunen mentshn azoy. Lee Shuldman 1411.74 1414.079 un m'iz geforn un gef<re->... Mark David 1412.854 1416.273 s'iz geven, uh, aza min, uh, BULLETIN BOARD? Lee Shuldman 1414.407 1415.801 kehiles, az-... Lee Shuldman 1415.875 1422.011 ye, ye. un m'hot ongeshribn di nemen. s'iz geven azoyne yidishe organizatsyes, hobn zikh bald kehiles gemakht azoy. Lee Shuldman 1422.017 1427.073 eh, un m'iz, un me hot, der vos iz lebn geblibn hot zikh gefunen. Lee Shuldman 1427.451 1431.073 es iz geblibn efsher a por vos hobn keyn mol nit gevust. Lee Shuldman 1431.147 1433.47 tsum bayshpil, mayn man Lee Shuldman 1433.509 1435.511 iz geven fun tsen kinder. Lee Shuldman 1436.361 1441.13 un, eh, eh, eh, v- in Daytshland, ikh bin geven in Zaltsheym. Lee Shuldman 1441.305 1449.528 un er hot gehat a bruder vos er iz geven mit im in lager. di ale kinder, mit di mame, mit di andere akht kinder zaynen umgekumen; nor er iz geblibn mitn bruder. Lee Shuldman 1449.528 1451.694 ven ikh hob mit im khasene gehat, Lee Shuldman 1451.92 1456.488 hot er gezogt, er hot gehert az zayn bruder iz umgekumen, der vos er iz geven in lager. Lee Shuldman 1457.539 1458.731 eyn mol Lee Shuldman 1458.737 1461.333 iz geforn fun Zaltsheym Lee Shuldman 1461.333 1465.257 a man mit sigaretn... m'hot dokh shoyn genumen handlen shpeter, vandlen... Lee Shuldman 1465.257 1466.274 nokh Keln. Lee Shuldman 1466.398 1468.332 un er iz gekumen in Keln, Lee Shuldman 1468.66 1473.301 in a gesheft vu der sh<UNK> UNK zayn bruder hot gehat dortn a gesheft, Lee Shuldman 1473.301 1474.459 shoyn nokh di krig. Lee Shuldman 1475.815 1476.821 er, Lee Shuldman 1476.945 1482.845 zogt er, "Shuldman dayn nomen? bay undz in lager iz do a Shuldman, in Zaltsheym!" Lee Shuldman 1483.392 1485.506 zogt er, "vi heyst er? Lee Shuldman 1485.506 1487.682 vi iz zayn mame?" zogt er, "veyst vos? Lee Shuldman 1487.682 1490.945 ikh'l dir gebn dem nomen fun mayn mame mitn tatn, Lee Shuldman 1490.985 1493.935 un freg vi zayn tate-mame." Lee Shuldman 1493.935 1496.329 iz in eyn tog gekumen der man Lee Shuldman 1496.487 1497.78 tsu mayn man, Lee Shuldman 1497.921 1501.425 un er zogt, "vi hot geheysn dayn tate mit di mamen?" Lee Shuldman 1501.583 1502.955 hot er im gezo<gt>. Lee Shuldman 1502.955 1510.489 zogt er, "host..." zogt er, "vos redstu? mayn..." er hot gehert az er iz umgekumen az zey zaynen oyfn marsh, ven zey zaynen gegangen, iz er umgekumen. Lee Shuldman 1510.489 1512.882 zogt er, "er lebt dos! <ot dos>..." Lee Shuldman 1513.26 1519.025 hot men zikh azoy f<UNK> gefunen. iz dos shoyn geven, uh, a yor nokh di bafrayung. Lee Shuldman 1519.673 1527.277 <es i- uh,> s'iz geven z- eh, eh, feler vos hobn zikh bald getrofn, un feler vos shpeter, un andere in gantsn nit. Lee Shuldman 1527.402 1531.407 un di vos zaynen nit geblibn hobn dokh avade zikh nit gekent gefinen. Mark David 1530.912 1535.631 un, uh, azoy un arum hot ir gefunen ayer tante vos iz geblibn lebn? Lee Shuldman 1534.793 1540.271 mayn tante, shpeter, ye, az ikh, eh, in, ikh bin gekumen in Daytshland, Lee Shuldman 1540.497 1546.329 hob ikh zikh dervust in Zaltsheym az zi iz oykhet in Zaltsheym. azoy hobn mir zikh getrofn, ye. Mark David 1546.048 1549.366 vi azoy hot ir gevust? fun a, aza min BULLETIN BOARD? Lee Shuldman 1550.565 1553.2 f- a shokhnte Lee Shuldman 1553.2 1557.925 fun a bakante hot z- azoy o, uh, ye, hot dertseylt, ye. Lee Shuldman 1557.925 1558.597 ye. Lee Shuldman 1558.947 1560.605 s'iz, eh.... Mark David 1559.43 1561.415 fun eyn moyl tsum tsveytn? Lee Shuldman 1560.605 1562.731 ye, ye. fun, eh, ye, ye. Lee Shuldman 1562.772 1566.377 ober, un di, un mayn kuzinke iz dokh le- iz geven mit mir. Lee Shuldman 1566.417 1568.405 <un> azoy, eh, Lee Shuldman 1568.405 1573.613 keyner <iz> nit geblibn lebn. s'iz geven aza groyse mishpokhe, fun mayn mame's un fun mayn tatn's, Lee Shuldman 1573.613 1575.463 mit kinder un kinderlekh. Lee Shuldman 1575.463 1577.102 keyner <iz> nit geblibn lebn. Lee Shuldman 1577.166 1579.354 s'iz geblibn a kuzinke vos iz Lee Shuldman 1579.41 1584.686 i- fun Rusland antlofn zaynen zey. zay- iz gekumen, <i-> iz er shoyn oykh geshtorbn. Lee Shuldman 1584.979 1588.989 un nokh a kuzinke hob ikh, eh, getrofn mit a por yor tsurik, Lee Shuldman 1589.012 1593.224 vos zi, zey zaynen geven in Daytshland, mayn mame's a shvester. Lee Shuldman 1593.45 1595.362 un ven der daytsh iz arayn, Lee Shuldman 1595.362 1597.444 zaynen zey antlofn nokh Frankraykh. Lee Shuldman 1597.855 1607.349 un in Frankraykh iz zi geblibn... zi iz mit a tsvey yor elter fun mir... in Frankraykh iz zi gevorn bahal- azoy vi der daytsh iz arayn in Frankraykh, <hot men> ire eltern oykh tsugenumen. Lee Shuldman 1607.44 1609.307 un ir hot men bahaltn Lee Shuldman 1609.448 1610.792 in a kloyster. Lee Shuldman 1610.882 1612.566 azoy iz zi lebn geblibn. Lee Shuldman 1612.566 1616.236 nokh di krig, shpeter, hob ikh zikh dervust, oykh fun moyl tsu moyl. Lee Shuldman 1616.236 1620.827 yetst iz zi in Floride un ikh hob ir gezen dem yor, un zi iz mayne a kuzinke, ye. Lee Shuldman 1620.827 1622.333 geblibn, ye. Mark David 1621.733 1622.874 un vi heyst zi? Lee Shuldman 1623.071 1624.511 L- eh, Levin. Lee Shuldman 1624.517 1625.422 ye. Mark David 1625.192 1626.434 ir nomen? Lee Shuldman 1625.857 1627.914 ir nomen iz Anye. Lee Shuldman 1627.914 1628.595 ye. Lee Shuldman 1628.888 1630.159 un zi iz geven, Lee Shuldman 1630.159 1633.337 eh, a TEACHERke in, ehm, Lee Shuldman 1633.444 1638.331 tsk, eh, fun engli- eh, fun frantseyzish in kaledzh in, eh, Lee Shuldman 1640.397 1646.409 in NEW JERSEY iz zi geven, eh, ye, iz zi geven a TEACHERke, un hot khasene gehat mit an Amerikaner MAN, ye. Lee Shuldman 1646.409 1649.924 yetst zaynen zey in Floride. kh'hob ir gezen far a yorn in Floride, ye. Lee Shuldman 1650.589 1659.625 un zi hot tsvey kinder, ye. un dos iz geblibn eyntslde, oyf di finger, eyntslde! fun azoyne mishpokhe, s'iz, eh, keyner nit geblibn, rikhtik. eh, ye. Mark David 1659.853 1661.247 iz, uh, Lee Shuldman 1660.174 1661.163 ye. Mark David 1661.659 1667.93 ir hot ibergenumen a, a daytshishe shtub in di dray vokhn nokhn, nokh der bafrayung? Lee Shuldman 1667.059 1668.75 nit a shtub; Lee Shuldman 1668.75 1673.36 s'iz geven, eh, militerishe barakn. hot men undz gegebn. Mark David 1671.566 1672.909 uh, oh. Lee Shuldman 1673.36 1676.135 iz in eyn shtub zaynen mir geven fir-finf meydlekh. Lee Shuldman 1676.135 1677.426 un nokh di krig Lee Shuldman 1677.426 1682.032 iz mayn khaverte, di vos iz ersht in, eh, in, eh, Lee Shuldman 1682.032 1682.901 ih, Lee Shuldman 1682.901 1684.979 vi hob ikh aykh gezogt? uh, Tsilinke. Mark David 1683.934 1685.193 MINNESOTA? Lee Shuldman 1684.979 1686.006 in Minesote. Lee Shuldman 1686.006 1687.252 un ir mame Lee Shuldman 1687.36 1699.052 un, eh, nokh tsvey shvester Vilner, un nokh a meydl a Vilner, hobn <azoy> gemakht a GROUP un m'hot gegesn tsuzamen, geshlofn, un getantst, un gelakht, un geveynt, un gefreyt, un s'iz geven a FAMILY. Lee Shuldman 1699.052 1701.529 <es> zol nit zayn, <z-> s'iz geven a FAMILY, ye. Lee Shuldman 1701.552 1702.384 bizkl Lee Shuldman 1702.384 1707.505 d<e-> der iz avekgeforn, nakher hot khasene gehat. der iz <a-> avek, un der, ober Lee Shuldman 1707.505 1712.244 ikh hob nokh <a>, eyn, tsvey bakante fun di, akhuts mayn khaverte, di... Lee Shuldman 1712.453 1716.092 un me shraybt zikh, me redt, me treft zikh, ye. Lee Shuldman 1716.352 1717.187 ye. Mark David 1716.552 1718.774 vos, uh, iz, iz, Mark David 1719.017 1726.959 vos hot antviklt in BERGEN-BELSEN mit azoy fil mentshn? s'hot zikh antviklt aza kehile dort far di yidn vos, di lebn-geblibene? Lee Shuldman 1725.328 1726.604 es iz gev-... Lee Shuldman 1726.763 1733.02 eh, far di lebn-geblibene iz gevorn Yosele Rozenzaft. er iz geven der firer fun Bergen-Belzen. Lee Shuldman 1733.02 1736.291 un s'iz ongekumen za- eh, ye, Yosele Rozenzaft. Lee Shuldman 1736.365 1743.002 un er iz, eh, s'iz geven, eh, gekumen peklekh mi- zakhn; shikh un kleydlekh hot men tseteylt. Lee Shuldman 1743.002 1745.151 un esn hot men gegebn peklekh. Lee Shuldman 1745.157 1750.199 un s'iz dortn geven <a> teater, a MOVIE<S iz> geven, uh... un, eh, Lee Shuldman 1750.199 1761.165 un s'iz geven, eh, me fleg geyn tantsn. m'hot zikh freylekh gemakht, ye. bizkl yeder eyner, eyner iz avekgeforn nakher ahin, eyner aher, un m'hot khasene gehat, un azoy iz <oyf-> uh, ye. Mark David 1754.32 1755.225 yid- Lee Shuldman 1761.205 1762.245 Bergen-B-... Mark David 1761.222 1764.658 yid- yidishe teater hot men gezen? Lee Shuldman 1763.77 1766.196 yidishe teater, ye. Lee Shuldman 1766.196 1772.963 un, eh, MOVIES, un bald nokh di krig, farsheydene rusishe MOVIES, un farsheydene MOVIES iz geven, ye. Lee Shuldman 1772.963 1777.871 un me flegt ale shabes, eh, iz geven an orkester, me fleg tantsn. Mark David 1778.822 1781.418 antshuldikt, me bayt itster di tashme. Lee Shuldman 1780.594 1781.586 shoyn? Lee Shuldman 1781.586 1784.312 m'hot shoyn geendikt di mayse, spn.