Chaim Rosov 43.47 45.88 MAY TWENTY THIRD NINETEEN NINETY FIVE, Chaim Rosov 46.58 48.81 THE SURVIVOR IS RACHEL GOLDBERG, Chaim Rosov 48.918 51.458 THE INTERVIEWER IS CHAIM ROSSOV, Chaim Rosov 51.62 54.134 WE ARE SHOOTING IN BOCA RATON, FLORIDA, Chaim Rosov 54.215 57.026 AND THE LANGUAGE TO BE SPOKEN WILL BE YIDDISH. Chaim Rosov 58.296 61.756 TAPE NUMBER ONE Chaim Rosov 62.215 63.972 spn IT'S NOT WRITTEN Chaim Rosov 65.134 67.999 IT IS MAY TWENTY THIRD NINETEEN NINETY FIVE, Chaim Rosov 68.377 71.377 I AM INTERVIEWING MR.S RACHEL GOLDBERG, Chaim Rosov 71.593 73.431 I AM CHAIM ROSSOV, Chaim Rosov 73.729 75.648 WE ARE IN BOCA RATON, FLORIDA, Chaim Rosov 75.972 79.54 AND THE INTERVIEW WILL BE HELD IN YIDDISH. Chaim Rosov 93.458 94.916 GOOD MORNING RACHEL. Rachel Goldberg 95.02 95.708 gut morgn. Chaim Rosov 95.728 100.083 AH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE INTERVIEW, I KNOW YOU SPEAK MANY LANGUAGES, Chaim Rosov 100.261 108.461 AND ALTHOUGH YOU CAN PROBABLY DO THE INTERVIEW IN ENGLISH, YOU PREFER TO DO IT IN YIDDISH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY. Rachel Goldberg 108.972 111.778 uh I SHOULD ANSWER IN ENGLISH, WHY? Chaim Rosov 111.791 112.433 ANSWER IN YIDDISH. Chaim Rosov 112.671 113.196 spn Rachel Goldberg 113.213 113.839 spn Rachel Goldberg 113.839 118.339 mayn man Khayim Goldberg iz, Rachel Goldberg 119.729 121.729 hot detsidirt, Rachel Goldberg 122.485 126.891 bashlosn, tsu makhn di INTERVIEW in yidish. Rachel Goldberg 126.891 131.485 vayl er trakht az tsu redn vi di kdoyshim, Rachel Goldberg 131.485 135.999 zay hobn geredt a sakh yidish. Rachel Goldberg 135.999 142.431 tsulib dem hob ikh bashlosn zikh tsu solidarizirn mit mayn man Rachel Goldberg 142.431 144.431 un redn oykh in yidish. Rachel Goldberg 144.431 152.107 ikh ken nit makhn in ENGLISH, in rusish, in poylish, in hebreish, ober yidish, Rachel Goldberg 152.243 157.296 volt ikh gevolt geyn mit dem vos mayn man hot detsidirt. Chaim Rosov 157.296 162.215 OK, LET'S GET STARTED BY YOU TELLING ME WHEN AND WHERE WERE YOU BORN? Rachel Goldberg 162.215 165.783 ah, ikh bin geboyrn gevorn in ershtn oktober, Rachel Goldberg 165.783 168.783 nayntsn tsvontsik. Rachel Goldberg 168.783 170.864 in Varshe, Rachel Goldberg 173.404 174.539 in Poyln. Chaim Rosov 174.539 180.403 TELL ME ABOUT YOUR, YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR HOME LIFE WHEN YOU WERE A GIRL. Rachel Goldberg 179.52 180.694 uh... Rachel Goldberg 180.702 189.026 mayne eltern zenen gevezn uhm, a groyse tsol, zibn yor tsvishn zey. Rachel Goldberg 189.026 191.593 ober s'hot zikh nisht gefilt dos. Rachel Goldberg 191.593 198.215 zey hobn uhm, gegebn ale meglekhe badingungen tsu lernen. Rachel Goldberg 198.215 206.513 un uhm, ikh hob uh dergreykht dos vos kh'hob gekent dergreykhn biz tsu di krig, ven di daytshn zenen ongefaln oyf Poyln. Rachel Goldberg 206.513 210.729 vos zol ikh nokh zogn vegn mayne eltern? Rachel Goldberg 210.729 214.135 zey zenen nisht umgekumen in keyn shum CAMP. Rachel Goldberg 214.135 220.594 mayne eltern zenen geven mit mir di gantse tsayt in Sibir. Chaim Rosov 222.107 223.81 WHAT DID YOUR FATHER DO FOR A LIVING? Rachel Goldberg 224.093 226.323 mayn tate iz gevezn a, Rachel Goldberg 226.999 238.999 a DESIGNER. a, er hot gemakht modelirte shikh. di, di oybershter teyl fun di shikh. s'hot zikh gerufn a kamashn-shteper. Rachel Goldberg 239.783 243.188 di oybershter teyl fun dame-shikh. Rachel Goldberg 243.188 247.216 spetsyel far dame-shikh, mit alerley modeler. 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Rachel Goldberg 535.918 543.432 un eh dos iz eh, der, di zakhn vos ikh gedenk, hob ikh gegat a shvester, Chaim Rosov 543.222 543.95 SARAH... Rachel Goldberg 544.185 546.918 SARAH, vos lebt yetst in Yisroel. Rachel Goldberg 547.405 551.432 yo zi iz eh ABOUT zeks yor yunger fun mir. Rachel Goldberg 551.972 556.189 un eh, zi iz geven eh, mit mir un mit di mame. Rachel Goldberg 556.378 560.729 un m'hot gezukht, m'hot geshrign, "gevald! vu ken men geyn? vu brent nisht?" Rachel Goldberg 560.972 562.837 umedum hot gebrent. Rachel Goldberg 562.999 569.297 Varshe, di teyl, di yidishe teyl fun Varshe, hot a sakh gelitn dem tog. Rachel Goldberg 569.891 571.189 m'hot zikh farloyrn. Rachel Goldberg 571.512 579.161 m'iz nisht gevezn tsugegreyt oyf azane barbarishe oyfn oyf, oyf an onfal. Rachel Goldberg 579.458 583.594 m'hot gevust vos in di politik hot men gehert vos es tut zikh. Rachel Goldberg 583.702 585.945 az s'iz noent, efsher dos. 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Rachel Goldberg 690.783 694.134 ikh bin geven fir yor alt un er iz geven tsvey yor alt. Rachel Goldberg 694.756 697.864 alzo, nokh tsvey teg iz dos kind avek. Rachel Goldberg 698.297 703.729 un m'hot nisht gevust, s'iz gevezn a krankeyt oyfn kop, un m'hot nisht gevust di sibe. Rachel Goldberg 703.918 706.432 iz gekumen di shkheyne un zi hot ertseylt. Rachel Goldberg 706.837 709.837 dos bashraybt mayn tate vayl ikh hob nisht gekent gedenken. Rachel Goldberg 709.972 713.567 ikh gedenk eh kleyne tsufaln mit dem kind. Rachel Goldberg 713.702 720.999 vi mayn mame, s'iz geven khanike, mayn mame hot gemakht latkes, hob ikh gezogt di ershte far mir un er hot gezogt di ershte far im, Rachel Goldberg 721.135 722.513 un m'hot zikh geshpilt. Rachel Goldberg 723.026 725.216 uh dos iz mir geblibn in gedank. Rachel Goldberg 725.405 729.351 vegn mayn shvester iz mer, zenen mir gevaksn tsuzamen un eh Rachel Goldberg 729.756 735.675 un eh z- zi, ikh hob geendikt eh, gimnazyem. 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Rachel Goldberg 1400.756 1407.81 er hot bashlosn tsu endern vi nokh aroystsukrign zikh fun di, fun di situatsye. Rachel Goldberg 1408.135 1418.027 tsk er hot ehm, gemakht a detsizye tsu oyftsumoln epes. Rachel Goldberg 1418.837 1424.54 g- genoy gedenk ikh nisht, tsi portret vemener, tsi epes farn militer, Rachel Goldberg 1424.54 1427.054 er hot gemakht epes an arbet. Rachel Goldberg 1427.243 1429.0 un s'iz zeyer gefoln. Rachel Goldberg 1429.216 1431.81 un m'hot im gezogt, mer vestu nisht geyn of keyn Rachel Goldberg 1431.81 1434.216 shvere zakhn. yetst vestu makhn dos. Rachel Goldberg 1434.216 1440.243 er hot dergreykht zayn, zayn eh farlang iz gevorn nokhgegebn. Rachel Goldberg 1440.243 1441.27 er hot dergreykht. Rachel Goldberg 1443.0 1447.349 un dernokh iz eh, in nayn un draysik- dos iz geven nayn un draysikster yor. Chaim Rosov 1447.513 1448.285 di milkhome... Rachel Goldberg 1447.724 1451.594 ven di milkhome iz aroysgebrokhn iz er geven in militer. 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Rachel Goldberg 1546.675 1548.918 iz men dort arayngelofn, Rachel Goldberg 1548.918 1555.567 un in keler dort hot men gemakht a plats far di vos zenen dertlofn fun fayer. Rachel Goldberg 1555.567 1560.297 m'hot afile g- tsugegreyt dort tsu esn far di mentshn. Rachel Goldberg 1560.459 1564.81 ikh gedenk az s'iz geven gekokhte rayz, mit floymen. Chaim Rosov 1573.702 1575.829 JUST KEEP TALKING. FORGET ABOUT THE NOISE. Rachel Goldberg 1575.945 1579.621 di rayz, alzo s'iz gevezn, eh Rachel Goldberg 1579.621 1582.27 un tsumorgns in der fri Rachel Goldberg 1583.378 1586.864 hot men gezen Khayim kumt undz zen! Rachel Goldberg 1587.134 1592.594 zayn gantse, di grupe, vos iz gekumen keyn Varshe, Rachel Goldberg 1592.675 1595.513 hot men geheysn arayngeyn in dem hoyz, un dos iz geven Rachel Goldberg 1595.513 1596.999 eyn hoyz lebn andern. Rachel Goldberg 1596.999 1598.567 vu mir zenen geshtanen. Rachel Goldberg 1598.567 1600.161 geven a tsufal. Rachel Goldberg 1600.27 1604.864 hot undz gebrengt tsu esn, mir, mayn tatn, mayn mamen, mayn shvester, Rachel Goldberg 1605.297 1607.837 un m'hot zikh gezen yedn tog. Rachel Goldberg 1608.351 1612.837 s'iz gevezn a, aroystsugeyn fun dortn un arayngeyn do iz UNK... Rachel Goldberg 1614.972 1616.972 fun vant hot men zikh dervust? Rachel Goldberg 1616.972 1619.783 er iz gegangen tsu di shvester, Rachel Goldberg 1620.324 1623.621 di shvester hob ikh, hot mikh getrofn oyf di gas, Rachel Goldberg 1623.675 1625.567 hob ikh ir gezogt vu ikh shtey, Rachel Goldberg 1625.702 1629.864 un dernokh hot er zikh getrofn mit di shvester, hot zi im gezogt az mir zenen azoy noent. Rachel Goldberg 1633.08 1638.053 dos iz geven a tsayt ven Varshe, halb Varshe, Rachel Goldberg 1638.269 1644.567 di yidishe gegnt, di yidishe gegnt, iz gevorn bombardirt, Rachel Goldberg 1644.675 1647.242 s'hot shoyn nisht ekzistirt. Rachel Goldberg 1649.945 1652.269 vos vilt ir nokh hern fun mir? Chaim Rosov 1650.905 1651.313 OK Chaim Rosov 1652.287 1652.955 WE'LL CONTINUE.