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 Gutomsiews in in, 2000 11 September 2000 (Conversations with sahaja yogis in a hotel) Shri Mataji to a child: I'm talking about you! Ah! One child is enough! Guido: To change the atmosphere. Shri Mataji: Absolutely. They try to please you all the time. You should take to small children, then you won't age much. I think one of the things. Guido: Vibrations. Shri Mataji: Vibrations, and also you become like a child, with them, that enjoyment of the children. You cannot get old. Very difficult. They do not have reactions. Singing now. This gentleman, how did he know Me? Guido: He (indicates Aldo) contacted him. Shri Mataji: So what did you tell him? Aldo: I told him all about Sahaja Yoga, but he... Guido: He gave him a leaflet about Sahaja Yoga, so he invited you to come. (....) 4

 Interview to Shri Mataji to an interviewer in the hotel. Question : What is love for you? Shri Mataji : Love? Love is the power of divinity. It's the Divine. And that's why this whole world was created out of love. Question : So everybody has an inner instrument, but mostly they don't use it. Why? Shri Mataji : Because of ignorance. Ignorance, you see, every human being is not equally aware. Question: Is it possible to change this condition? Shri Mataji: Yes, it has to. Question : In which way? Shri Mataji : By feeling the vibrations of that person on your fingertips. From the level of spirituality. Question : Which is your mission in Italy? Shri Mataji : Everywhere, it is not only here. Because Sahaja Yoga is now in 86 countries, alright? And My mission is to create a global unity. Question : To improve the life? To make life better? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course, what we have to do is to understand that most of the problems that we have are coming from human beings, because they are imperfect. There are problems with them. But if they are transformed, and if they become saintly, beautiful, spiritual, all our problems will be solved. Question : The Yoga is one way to change this situation? Shri Mataji : The only way, this Sahaja Yoga, is the only way so far I know, which has changed people, which has transformed. Because is based on the actually, on the Kundalini which is the power in every man's triangular bone. Question :And you think that is possible to move the Kundalini? Shri Mataji : If that is awakened, if that power is awakened, it passes through six centres ultimately the last here, and by which you become connected to the all-pervading power, which is very subtle. And you become the owner of that power, which flows – that's love, that's compassion. Question : When you practice the meditation, where you go with your heart, with your mind? Shri Mataji : I go nowhere, I go inside. I know about My centres. I don't go anywhere out, I'm inside. Inside Myself, and I know Myself. First we must know our self, otherwise we cannot know God, we cannot know anything. Question : And what is it in your heart? Shri Mataji: What is it in your...? Question : ...in your heart.

 Guido : What is residing in your heart. Shri Mataji : In My heart resides God Almighty. Question : OK. The last question for you: where the world goes? Guido: Where is this humanity going? Shri Mataji : It is going into the Last Judgement. Whether they take to higher life or to baser life. This is the Last Judgement. Question : There is one thing that you want to say for the people, for the... Shri Mataji : Yes, of course! The message is that within you is this power, and this power is your own Mother, your individual Mother, and She knows everything about you. And She is anxious to give you your second birth. She takes up all responsibility, only thing you should want it, it cannot be forced. That's it. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji : And you can't pay for it. It's the evolutionary process now. Is the end of the evolutionary process, that you jump into new realm, and that by that you develop a new awareness of collective consciousness and thoughtless awareness, to begin with. Question : What is for you the wellness? Guido: Awareness. Shri Mataji : Awareness is to be conscious that something has to be done, there's a seeking, that's awareness. According to Me, the real wealth is your Spirit, that you are the Spirit. That's your real wealth. Question : We are only Spirit? Of course. You are not this body, this mind, and you are not this intellect. You are Shri Mataji : the Spirit. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji : That should happen. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji : May God bless you. He's very subtle. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji : That's all (She smiles). Guido all'intervistatore : Vuol provare l'esperienza? Int.: Di che genere? Guido : Il risveglio della Kundalini. Int.: Si può? Shri Mataji:You are a very subtle person, I must say. You asked Me very subtle questions. Int.: Va bene. Come si deve fare? Shri Mataji : Alright. 6.

 After Kundalini Awakening Shri Mataji : You are already a realised soul. Got it. Are you feeling the cool breeze? Int.:I feel, yes. Shri Mataji : That's it! Now you have become. Very good. What I must say that journalists are the most powerful people in modern times. And it really depends on you how you are going to lead or mislead this world. Int.: For me is very important to show the real nature ofthe man. Guido : He says it's very important for him to show the reality, the inner reality of man. Shri Mataji:Ofcourse. But the reality is that you are the Spirit. Int.: Is little difficult for people understand... Shri Mataji : No, that's all, what you call, a camouflage. It's not real. The real is that you are the Spirit. That's real. Guido : He says it's little difficult to make people understand this. Shri Mataji : No, they will. See now, I've been doing that, and I've seen people understand. Is the best way to tell them...You have to tell them everything frankly, because they are misled. They're on the wrong track. So we have to save them. Guido : Very strong vibrations. Shri Mataji : He's very good, he's very good. Very good, excellent. Int.:I hope that tomorrow evening I go to you to Teatro Regio. Guido : He would like to come tomorrow evening to meet You... Shri Mataji : Please, do, and bring all your friends! And all your family! Guido : E porta anche i tuoi amici e la tua famiglia. Shri Mataji : And all your family. Shri Mataji: Excellent. Guido: He's feeling also. Int.: I am in heaven now! Shri Mataji (laughs): This is the paradise created by your Spirit, in the state of realisation. It makes you peaceful, joyful, wise, and enjoyable everything. Int.: Without ego! Shri Mataji: Without...? Guido : Ego! Shri Mataji : (laughing loudly) You don't have. Int.: No? Thank you!

 Shri Mataji : You don't have. Int.: Finally one person that tells me I have not a ego. Shri Mataji : Ah (laughs). Guido : He says you are the first person who is telling him that he has no ego. Shri Mataji : No, he hasn't. He hasn't got ego. You see, all those who have ego always think that (laughs) that others have ego. Do you understand? (laughs) (Int.: Eh. Vero.) If you had ego, you could not have got it so fast. But I think he has little sinus. Int.: Yes. Shri Mataji : He has. Int.: Yes. Shri Mataji : Alright? Now, for that a simple method is to take onion, two onions, and put it on the fire, it becomes black. Then cut it half straight, I mean, standing, and then foment it with that (lower part offorehead). Very simple. And here also (sinuses). Int.: And don't eat cheese. Shri Mataji : No, no, cheese is alright. Int.: Yes? Shri Mataji : Yes, it's nothing to do with cheese. It is because hot and cold, the difference between hot and cold – say, something you take hot and then you take cold, you see, like coffee and then ice-cream. Or you suddenly expose yourself from a hot place to the cold, or cold to the hot. It could be cured. Int.:I feel my hands (laughs). Shri Mataji : I know, I know (laughs). But this can be easily cured, you try that, maybe with two, first about, say, ten minutes. Then again if you get sick, then you should try after five minutes. It will go away. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji: May God bless you. What's his name? Int.: George. Shri Mataji : George! Oh dear. George is the name of Mahavira, He's an angel, on the left hand side. Left side, yes. There's right side is Buddha, and the left side is Mahavira. Int. Ah, the right is Buddha and the left is.... Shri Mataji : Yes. So He guards you from all the left side problems. Int.: Emotions? Shri Mataji : Yes. George. And Michael is the same. And the right side, and Hanumana and Gabriel the same. You'll know everything – it's all united, they're all joined together. It's not that this is Indian, it's Italian– it's wrong. Inside they're all one. Int.: Sarebbe bello riuscire ad integrare tutto. 8

 Guido : Questo è quello che succede con Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji : And that Christ is sitting here in the centre, on the optic chiasma. So, what you have to do is to forgive. Forgive everyone. Then it opens out petal (?). Guido : L'importante è perdonare. Per aprire questo centro... Int.: L'importante è perdonare. Certo. Shri Mataji : Torino is good, that way. But I think in Torino there has been some black magic and things like that. Int.:I feel this situation. There are many people that practise... Shri Mataji : Must be from Egypt. Int.:I don't know why. (….) Shri Mataji : That's very dangerous. That causes cancer. In Sahaja Yoga you can cure them, because you come in the centre, nor on the left, neither on the right. You pass through that (run with the hand the central channel). And here is the place (She touches the fontanel bone area)….Yes, yes. Passes through this (She touches the ego and superego) ; through the limbic area (She makes the gesture of the Kundalini passing through the fontanel bone). And here is the place (She touches the fontanel bone) of God Almighty, which is reflected in your heart as the Spirit. You will know everything. You master it. Yes, of course. Within one month's time you will be master. Very simple. Give him My book. He can read English. He's very good. Int.: Ok. Thank you. Shri Mataji : All right. May God bless you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Very nice to have met you. Thank you. Int.: Thank you. Shri Mataji : Very nice. Int.: Wonderful. Shri Mataji : Alright. Thank you. Int.: Thank you very much. Guido : See you tomorrow night. Shri Mataji : He's coming, coming. All this is very nice. 9.

 (Conversations with sahaja yogis in a hotel) Shri Mataji : We have to revive our old classical music. We have to. Guido : Western classical? Shri Mataji : Yes. We have to revive, whether in Italy, wherever it is. Guido : Maybe Austria. Shri Mataji : Austria, Austria is, see, becomes localised. But in a place where they can all come, stay, work it out.. We should have. Thank God in India it has revived. India it has revived, otherwise we were worried that Indian music would be finished. It's come back. But still there are groups in India who take to Western pop music. Guido : Ah, pop music. Shri Mataji : And then there's jazz. That's something like Indian style. Guido : In between. Shri Mataji : In between (they laugh). There are many Indians who'd like to learn piano. Specially in Calcutta. All the rich people used to have a piano in the house. Very common. Because Indians have a special ear for the music. Also in our cinemas they use piano. For the music, for background music. They use. Babamama started with the clarinet. He made people play on clarinet Indian music. Guido : Yes, the first time he came to Ganapatipule he brought somebody with... Shri Mataji : Also violin of course, but piano so far not. But we can have it, is like harmonium only, piano. Now this Dhumal is coming. And Ali's coming. And Sandesh. Dhumal is another genius. Jazz music is alright, but this another one is like a satanic stuff. Guido : Is techno, they call it techno. Shri Mataji : Techlo? Guido : Techno is technological music. Shri Mataji : Techlo, yes. Is techlo or (something). But people are mad. Starts from America. 10

 An Interview made by a young journalist Question : Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi è portatrice di un messaggio universale di profonda spiritualità. Negli anni '70 Lei ha introdotto il Sahaja Yoga, oggi praticato in tutto il mondo. Di che cosa si tratta? Shri Mataji : In English? Alright. Sahaja Yoga – Sahaja means 'born with you'. Also it means 'spontaneous'. And Yoga means the union with the Divine. Question : Qual è la differenza con lo Yoga tradizionale? Shri Mataji : There is no difference. Because this traditional Yoga was done thousands of years back, when they first wanted to cleanse the body, then the mind, then the intellect, and ultimately they wanted to do Sahaja Yoga. Question : Sahaja Yoga, realizzazione del Sé, benessere ed equilibrio interiore. Shri Mataji : Of course. It is so. It is for complete inner balance, for your peace of mind, also, the joy of your Spirit. Question : Qual è la missione di Shri Mataji? Shri Mataji : To bring global peace by transforming human beings. Question : La Kundalini che cos'è? Shri Mataji: It is a force within us, in the triangular bone, called as 'sacrum' – that means the Greeks knew it's a sacred bone. And this energy is kept just like waiting for you to be awakened. Question : Perché è così importante? Shri Mataji: Because you have to have your evolution. All our problems come from human beings, because they are not evolved, they are not enlightened. So, if they are enlightened, all these six enemies we have of anger, greed, all kinds of things that we do, violence and all that, will just drop out. Moreover, moreover, in all the scriptures it is written "You know your Self, then you will know God". So, how will you know your Self? You have to know your Spirit. Only through awakening you'll know it. Question : Parlando ancora del Sahaja Yoga, è praticabile da tutti. Shri Mataji : Ofcourse. Question : Ma come avviene, come viene praticato questo Yoga? Shri Mataji : There is nothing to be practiced. It just happens in us (..). But only thing is people have problems on their centres through which it passes, so you have to just correct them, and you have to master the knowledge, which is absolute. Question : Come è nata la Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji : See, when I was born, I knew I was enlightened, Myself. But I thought it should go to the collective. People should get it in a big way. So I little bit, I should say, experimented with human beings, and I tried to find out what is the problem is. Then I worked out 11

 all the permutations and combinations of problems. And I found out a very easy method of giving self-realisation. Question : Shri Mataji è anche a Torino per portare un messaggio. Shri Mataji : Yes, of course. Torino is a very artistic place and with people with very large heart, and I'm sure they'll work out very well. All right? Interviewer :Thank you very much. Shri Mataji : May God bless you. The young interviewer receives Realization. Shri Mataji : (to Guido who raises the Kundalini of the girl and works on her) Put the left to the right. Now. Very good. Are you feeling cool breeze? Ah. This is actualisation of baptism. Just happens. You yourself will become master. And you can create also. That's how Sahaja Yoga is spreading in 86 countries. Interviewer:Benissimo. Shri Mataji : It's your right to get it. It's your evolutionary process, you see, last epitome of the evolutionary process. All right? Interviewer :All right. Shri Mataji : May God bless you. Interviewer :Wonderful. Thank you very much. Shri Mataji : Thank you very much. May God bless you (they shake their hands). 12

 Press conference with a female & 2 Male journalist Guido to one journalist : Cosa vorrebbe sapere su Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji : My family... Guido : Your history... Shri Mataji :I was born in India, at the time when the British were ruling us, and My father and mother both were very patriotic people, very well-educated, and I was born in a Protestant Christian family. Then in My childhood what happened was that because of this patriotic feeling within Me also, in the college I studied there, and then there was, we had a called "Quit India Movement", that My father was arrested, mother was arrested, and I took part in the youth of those people. Question : Le tecniche dello Yoga, invece, per quanto concerne questa tecnica... Shri Mataji : That was much later. Because I did My medicine, studied medicine, and then when you see, I felt always from My very childhood, that I have got Myself self-realisation, what you can call enlightenment, so everybody should get it. And because of that happening, the whole world will change. Other journalist : Qual è il messaggio del Sahaja Yoga e quali sono i benefici di questo... Shri Mataji : The message of Sahaja Yoga is that human beings have to jump one more step, to become a realised soul, an enlightened personality, by which you solve all the world's problems. Because all the problems that we have in this world, most of them, apart from the calamities, they come from human beings. But if they are enlightened, in the light of their Spirit, they'll understand their value, they'll understand the value of others, and the whole change will be there, lot of change will take place. All the scriptures have said that you have to know yourself. But how do you know yourselfis the problem, because you have to go inside. And for that there is already a power placed in our triangular bone. Now this power, which is called as Kundalini, is placed in the triangular bone called as sacrum. That means the Greeks knew it's a sacred bone. And this power, when it rises within us, is awakened, and passes through six centres, subtle centres, and pierces through the last centre, what we call as the fontanel bone area. That's how you get the actualisation of your baptism. So, as a result of that, we do not react, because we become thoughtlessly aware. We become a witness of everything. And secondly we become collectively conscious. Journalist : Thank you very much. Shri Mataji : May God bless you. (They shake hands) (The journalists receive their realisation) Shri Mataji : You'll start feeling the cool breeze on your fingertips, in your hands. This is the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. All right? Are you feeling? Female Interviewer: Yes. Shri Mataji : It's spontaneous, that is spontaneous, Sahaj. Now see on top of your head, yes. Here, here. Fontanel bone (She touches Her fontanel bone) which was a soft bone in your 13

 childhood. Ah. Little higher. Get it? Little higher, take your hand little higher, above. Higher. They've got it. Now, put your right hand towards Me like that. Got it! Alright? You too. It's worked out. So spontaneous. Now you have to just know the centres that you have. They are, you can feel them on your fingertips, your centres. And you will know what's wrong with you on the centres (She touches the fingers of Her hand). It could be the left, on the left side are these five (fingers centres), six (base of palm), and seven (centre of palm) centres. The right side are these five, six and seven. Seventh (centre of palm). (Shows base of palm of right hand) This is the first one. Altogether there are seven, but this seventh (shows base of palm of right hand) is not above Kundalini, is below. This one, the first one. Now. So you start seeing what's wrong with you on your fingertips. Also you can give realisations to others. And you can also feel their problems on what centres they have. And these centres look after physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. Spiritual being. So physically you feel alright, your health is alright, it can cure cancer and many other such diseases, for no money all. Mentally –many people are psychologically upset, they can get the balance, they're alright. They become very strong within. And intelligence, which is running all over, stops, and you start seeing the truth. And the reality. If it happens to many people, then global problems are solved. And media is very important. You perhaps don't realise how great you are. What you can do to transform this world, to bring peace, and joy, and togetherness. So enjoy your peace now, enjoy yourself. And we have a centre here, you can know everything. Is the absolute knowledge, absolute. at Interviewer : Chiunque può fare Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji : Of course, of course, is for everyone! Everybody is in problem, everybody needs it! There are no boundaries. We have in South Africa, we have in Benin, where all the people are black, you know? We have seven thousand people in Benin. And Ivory Coast: the President of Ivory Coast is a sahaja yogi. In Eritrea also. So we have Sahaja Yoga everywhere now spreading, because everybody wants peace. Russia is the best. Thousands and thousands are there. Because of communism, they were thinking inside, they were going inside, they became very deep. While in democratic countries, see, they offer so many chances for us to get lost. We are free, but no real freedom. This is what is the problem of modern times. And Sahaja Yoga was the need, need of the hour. Is predicted by many saints that this time will come, when so many people will get their self- realisation. That's the solution for all our violence, for all our problems. Ifthey have to ask any questions... Female journalist : Prima avete parlato del fatto che, con questa tecnica, si riesce a risolvere problemi di salute di un certo tipo, quindi anche malattie che per ora sono mortali. Ma siete riusciti a risolvere casi del genere... Dato che comunque la nostra televisione interessa soprattutto il Piemonte, siete riusciti a fare cose simili anche nella nostra regione? Guido : Non so, Aldo, c'è stata qualche guarigione clamorosa? Female journalist: Può parlare magari di un caso? Guido : In Italia moltissimi. Tantissimi, sì. Casi di leucemia, problemi coronarici, linfatici... Una persona aveva un cancro al cervello, ecc. ecc. Sahaja yogi : A Milano. Aldo : Qua più che altro problema di dipendenze tipo alcool, droghe. Sahaja Yoga è proprio 14

 l'eliminazione di queste dipendenze. (Guido tells Shri Mataji that the journalist asked about the diseases cured by Sahaja Yoga). Shri Mataji : Many, many, thousands and thousands. I have one hospital in India, very big hospital, where we are getting people from all over the world for getting cured. So I mean, I cannot give you the list of things (we have cured). Female journalist : Addirittura un ospedale? Guido : Sì, sì". 99 Shri Mataji : And you cannot pay for it. Female journalist : Ah no? Guido : Questo non si può comprare, perché non ha prezzo. Shri Mataji : Only for their stay and food, that's all. We have qualified doctors who have taken to Sahaja Yoga. Also in America, the National Institute of Health, N.I.H., has now accepted Sahaja Yoga. Even a person, a lay person, can know what's wrong with another person. In N.I.H. there was one doctor who wanted to test the sahaja yogis. He asked: "What's wrong with me?". He said: "Heart". And he had a by-pass about a month back. On the fingertips. On fingertips (...) feel on the fingertips. Don't have to go for the rigmarole (...). We are having now in India in jail people are getting transformed, in the military, administrative system, in (senior?) administrative service, and bureaucrats – most difficult! And we also have with the people who are doing (...) units, taxation and all that, finance. Big use (...). Question : Fuori dall'India ha invece incontrato diffidenza? Shri Mataji : Not Italians. Because they have a large heart. But Germans are dry, English are getting no end of themselves, so rather good but not much. So they are difficult. Question : Grazie. Shri Mataji : Also about drug addiction, alcoholism, gets cured. Completely. And I bought a place for that in Italy. But so far we haven't got the permissions. Sahaja Yoga can definitely cure drug addiction and alcoholism. Can definitely cure. That is one of your great problems. Also cancer. Cancer is a very big problem. You have AIDS, but AIDS patients are very arrogant, and they won't listen to anyone. And they think they are going for martyrdom. So impossible, you can't manage them. Same with Alzheimer's: they are very hot-tempered, they abuse you. Otherwise everything is alright. Other interviewer : Che tipo di relazioni ci sono con le religioni? Shri Mataji : You see, religions are just the same, every religions is the same. But people who have taken it over either they become money-oriented, power-oriented, they want land...and all kinds of problems. That's not religion. But religion gives you balance, the chakra here (touches Nabhi). Not to fight, not to have greed, lust – all that's out of question. That's why all religions have failed. They have to take to reality, to the Absolute. Then it will work out. The problem in all these religions is that there's a book for each, and the way they, the way they sort of interpret the books is difficult. And you cannot correct them also. So all kinds of complications are there. For example, in the Bible. 15

 Conversation with yogis, Aurangabad 1988 So, I would request you... What is this luggage walking in here? It's not have been taken down? Should we take it down, because or Is it alright for you? You can go in the same buses down to the lake. Take clothes and your towels. You need more towels, we have some more towels. I don't know if you have brought them. Have you brought the towels? your Sahaja Yogi: “Yes Mother." Shri Mataji: The rest of them. Because these are good towels I think. They are not so bad. They are quite nice, absorbent. But you can take this. Your buses are there. But, don't go in the buses as if you are Australians or Indians and things like that. Get mixed up, before this. Because you arrived from different directions from different countries we had to arrange buses in that fashion. But, I think it is better to reorganize. Give everybody a criminal number 1 2 3 4 5 6 and see that they are seated properly and that they have distinct. I think, better is to count all of you when you leave the place. Nobody is left out here and all the numbers should be there. So, I would request all the leaders to come and organize few things and talk to Me about it, about their laundry. And there are the new group that has come from Italy. Hasn't got yet their sarees or anything so far. Now your sarees we are carrying with us. I don't know where they are. Who has carried? Sahaja Yogi: "In one of the buses Mother." 99 Shri Mataji: “But there are seven." 99 Sahaja Yogi: “Yes." 99 Shri Mataji: You know, alright. So will you please take out that lot and allot it to the ladies who haven't got their sarees and kurtas and pajamas. And please collect money from them. I hope you liked your kurtas. Sahaja Yogis: “Yes, Mother." Shri Mataji: “Are they good?" Sahaja Yogis “Yes Mother" Shri Mataji: Because I thought I got this cloth and I think it is good. Very good. Also the value is very good. It is very good. And this will last and last because you see this kind of thing might give way. But, because it has got those pairs it lasts a long. This is also from the same lot you got! Ah! Quite good, very good. It is nice, alright. So, I would request you to allot them. Who will do that? The leader should look after that. Now who are the people who have come by the last bus? Italy? Italy? Milan? I mean Rome? Milan? Only so many of you. Sahaja Yogi: “27, Shri Mataji.' Shri Mataji: “27. But they look like 4-5 here. Ladies, very few ladies, isn't it?" Sahaja Yogi: “Ladies are still in the ladies camp Mother." Shri Mataji: “That side?" Sahaja Yogi: "Yes." 99 Shri Mataji: Now if you want, there are 5 air conditioned rooms down below. If you want you can stay there. And one more guest house there. So I said, "They would love to be in the open air conditioning." Sahaja Yogi: “Right Mother." 16

 Shri Mataji: “Isn't it?" Sahaja Yogi: “Yes." 99 Shri Mataji: No, if somebody wants to go there, is a possibility of 5 rooms. They kept for Me also. But, I said, I would love to be here. So, if you want to go for air conditioning, there are rooms, if you want to. Be comfortable, if somebody is sick or anything. But I think it is better to be in the nature. I would like to tell you about these trees. Are called as neem trees. I don't know if you can pluck them. But you might find them down below. This is what is the very good thing for driving out all the badhas, some or the other. It has a very bitter taste and the badhas run away from it. They are very oxygen creating plants and we use them as tooth brushes. See, there is one twig he has taken and chewed into and then we go on cleaning our teeth with it for about an hour or so. You see, while talking to people. Early in the morning when they are going for a walk they just take in their teeth and just chewing, all of them talking together and sort of working it out. So, the teeth is kept very well.. They never go to dentist. Indians never go to dentist. So I have never been to a dentist Myself. So, this is a very nice thing and here also you get something called Neem tooth paste. I don't know where you can get it. But that is very good thing for your teeth. So, if you could get these trees down below, you can pluck it out and you can just start. Use it for a nice brushing. Try if you can. You have to chew it very well. So these are the trees. This kind, you can see it. And if you have any sort of scabies or any skin trouble then, we boil the water with this and give a bath. It is very good for taking the bath. Boil the water and take a bath. Is a bitter thing. If you don't allow the water to go in your mouth, then it is perfectly alright. It is very good. It is very medicinal thing called as Neem [Shri Mataji spells it out]. Try to find if you can find the toothpaste somewhere. Neem toothpaste, or I will try to get it. So, now for the ladies they can have their sarees and their clothes. I hope you like the sarees. Sahaja Yogini: “Yes. Nice." 99 Shri Mataji: Ah! Aren't they? It was a job really. Real tapasya. And they are so anxious to match every saree with every blouse. See, it is impossible to get so many colors that they have and we had to go from places to places, shops to shops and we had to request all the tailors and so many ladies and sitting down. Imagine there were I think 996. Can you imagine? Sarees and blouses matching [matched?]. But they enjoyed it. They very much enjoyed it. So, I think we should give them one, these ladies who have got them. We must give them one saree each. Don't you think so? to Sahaja Yogis & Sahaja Yoginis: "Yah." Shri Mataji: In Ganapatipule, I will try to do that. Would you now go and get the sarees? Somebody. If you can bring the lot here we can give it to them. They have put the names on every and they have put the names also of the boys. There were names of you people?" 99 Sahaja Yogis & Sahaja Yoginis: “Yes, Shri Mataji. Names and numbers also." Shri Mataji: Names and numbers? All right. It was really a hard task I tell you. Baba has done that. And, he was so sweet you know, he brought all these things in a vehicle all the way from Nagpur and I said, " must pay for it." He said, "No, at least let me do this much seva." I said, "No, you must get something out of it." I never knew that My brother was that good. But as Sahaja Yogi, is 99 99 99 99 excellent. 7 December 1988. 17

 परमेश्वर को यदि कभी अपनी लीला का आनन्द आना बन्द हो जाए तो वे महाआदि-पुरुष (Primordial Being) के हृदय से निकल जाते हैं और सृजन लीला का अंत हो जाता है। विराट के हृदय से आत्मा रूप में स्थापित अपने प्रतिबिम्ब को वहाँ से हटाकर वे ऐसा करते हैं। हृदय बन्द हो जाने पर मानव शरीर की सभी गतिविधियों के रुक जाने से हम इसकी तुलना कर सकते हैं। परिणामस्वरूप व्यक्ति की मृत्यु हो जाती है। श्रीसदाशिव पक्ष सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के तमोगुण (इच्छा वृत्ति ) को दर्शाता है, क्योंकि उन्हें जीवन की इच्छा थी और अपने व्यक्तित्व की अभिव्यक्ति उन्होंने अस्तित्व धारण कर के की। उनकी इच्छा शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति 'महाकाली' रूप में होती है। ये शक्ति आदिपुरुष के हृदय की बाईं ओर के माध्यम से कार्य करती है। ये सृष्टि के भावनात्मक पक्ष को बनाए रखती है। तमोगुण (इच्छावृत्ति) आदि पुरुष के हृदय को घेरे रखता है और उन पर कार्य करता है, परन्तु हृदय में निवास करने वाले ईश्वर (आत्मा), सृजन लीला के भावनात्मक पक्ष से बंधे हुए नहीं हैं । सृजन का भावनात्मक पक्ष इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति करता है परन्तु यह भावना मात्र है, सृजन नहीं है। वास्तविक सृजन तो परमात्मा के सृजनात्मक पक्ष-महासरस्वति शक्ति- के माध्यम से होता है। मानव में हृदय की धड़कन उसी में अस्तित्व शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति है। इसे भावनात्मक पक्ष का नियंत्रण करने वाले जीवन (प्राण) के रूप महसूस किया जाता है। हृदय में निवास करने वाले ईश्वर किसी भी प्रकार से जीवनशक्ति से सम्बन्धित, प्रभावित या आकर्षित नहीं है। वे पूर्णत: निर्लिप्त हैं और श्रीसदाशिव के लीला सामप्त करते ही वे परमेश्वर में विलीन हो जाते हैं । हिरण्यगर्भ ( प्रजापति) हिरण्यगर्भ सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा का सृजनात्मक पक्ष है। ये आदिपुरुष के उदर (वॉइड) में गतिशील है। आदिपुरुष का उदर भवसागर ( भ्रमसागर) भी कहलाता है। ( भवसागर के सृजन का वर्णन अन्यत्र किया गया है) हिरण्यगर्भ की शक्ति महासरस्वती के रूप में अवतरित होती हैं और पूरी भौतिक सृष्टि उनकी शक्ति तथा गतिविधि के परिणामस्वरूप हैं : उन्होंने ( महासरस्वती) ही सारी आकाशगंगाओं, सितारों और हमारे सूर्य, चन्द्र और पृथ्वी समेत सारे ग्रहों का सृजन किया है। वे आदिपुरुष की विचार शक्ति का कार्य भी करती हैं तथा ये प्रक्रिया 'आदि-अहंकार' की उत्पत्ति करती है। ये शक्ति 'आदि-पिंगला नाड़ी' वाहिका पर कार्यरत है तथा यह 'आदि-पूर्व -चेतन मस्तिष्क' (आदि चित्) की अभिव्यक्ति करती है। यह डाकिए की तरह से कार्य करती है, जो सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा की बुद्धि को संदेश पहुँचाता है। पृथ्वी पर मानव के भौतिक शरीरों की सृष्टि करने वाले पंच-आदितत्वों का आदिपुरुष में सृजन इसी शक्ति के माध्यम से होता है। हिरण्यगर्भ आदिपुरुष के रजोगुण (सृजनात्मक वृत्ति) का प्रतिनिधित्व करते हैं। मानव में इस शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति मनुष्य की सृजनात्मक शक्ति से होती है। सूक्ष्मरूप से यह रीढ़ की हड्डी में स्थित पिंगला नाड़ी वाहिका पर कार्यरत है और इसकी स्थूल अभिव्यक्ति 'दायें अनुकम्पी-नाड़ी-तन्त्र' के रूप में होती है। यह मानव अहम् का सृजन करती है जिसके माध्यम से मनुष्य अपने भविष्य के विषय में सोचता है। मनुष्य की सारी योजनायें व विचार इसी 20

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 परमेश्वर रूप में सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के तीन पक्ष आदिशक्ति महाआदिपुरुष में सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के तीन पक्षों की अभिव्यक्ति करती हैं। ये हैं 'सदाशिव' (ईश्वर ), 'हिरण्यगर्भ' (प्रजापति), और 'विराट' । सदाशिव परमात्मा का कभी परिवर्तित न होने वाला स्वरूप सदाशिव कहलाता है और उनकी शक्ति महाकाली रूप में अवतरित होती हैं। महाकाली शक्ति के माध्यम से परमात्मा की शक्ति उनकी सृष्टि सृजन की इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति करती हैं| महाकाली शक्ति अस्त्वि (जीवन) के लिए ज़िम्मेदार हैं। विकास प्रक्रिया में बाधा डालने वाले दानवों और राक्षसों को वे नष्ट कर देती हैं। परमात्मा के अस्तित्व को यद्यपि ईश्वर रूप - विराट-के हृदय में महसूस किया जा सकता है, उनके जीवित रहने की इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति सदाशिव के माध्यम से होती है। इस प्रकार सदाशिव जीवन के देवता (जीवन-देव) कहलाते हैं। क्योंकि अस्तित्व का विलोम शब्द विनाश है, अत: उनका एक अन्य नाम प्रलयंकर (महाकाल) भी है। मानव शरीर में भगवान शिव मनुष्य के हृदय के बाईं ओर अपनी शक्ति पार्वती या शिवानी के साथ निवास करते हैं। वे सभी मृत तथा मानव मस्तिष्क को बन्धनग्रस्त करने वाले तत्वों को एकत्र करते हैं। जैसे किसी चलते हुए कारखाने में ज्वलन क्रिया से धुआँ उत्पन्न होता है, जीवन्त प्रक्रिया में विराट की गतिविधि भी आदि-सामूहिक- अवचेतन मन (महामनस) का सृजन करती है। विराट की जीवन्त गतिविधि से उत्पन्न होने वाला धुआँ इस आदि अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क (महामनस) में एकत्र हो जाता है। यह 'आदि-प्रति-अहंकार' के नाम से जाना जाता है। श्री सदाशिव इस आदि-प्रति-अहंकार में मृत आत्माओं से परिपूर्ण बहुत से संस्तरों वाले क्षेत्र की रचना करते हैं। अधमतम स्तर के क्षेत्र में शैतानी और अत्यधिक क्रूर आत्माओं को स्थान दिया जाता है। बहुत बार वे जीवित मनुष्यों के चेतन-मस्तिष्क में प्रवेश कर जाती हैं। इस आदि-अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क (महामनस) के आक्रमण तथा इन देहविहीन क्रूर आत्माओं की अभिव्यक्ति से मनुष्यों की रक्षा करने का कार्य श्रीसदाशिव का है । मनुष्य के अन्दर जिस वाहिका पर यह ( महामनस) कार्यरत है वह 'ईड़ा नाड़ी' (मनस) कहलाती है। यह नाड़ी वर्तमान अनुभवों को भूतकालिक अनुभवों में परिवर्तित कर के इन्हें व्यक्तिगत-अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क में एकत्र कर देती है। मनुष्य के अन्दर इस की स्थूल अभिव्यक्ति 'बायें अनुकम्पी-नाड़ी - तन्त्र' के रूप में होती है। श्री शिव जीवन (अस्तित्व) का प्रतिनिधित्व करते हैं और उनकी शक्ति जड़ पदार्थों में विद्युत-चुम्बकीय लहरियों के रूप में तथा जीवधारियों में प्राण (जीवन) के रूप में अभिव्यक्त होती है। ये दोनों शक्तियाँ मूल प्रणव या परमेश्वरी शक्ति के दो स्वरूप हैं। जैसे बाँसुरी में प्रवाहित की जाने वाली एक फूंक संगीत के सात भिन्न स्वर उत्पन्न करती है वैसे ही प्रणव भी एक समग्र शक्ति है। बिल्कुल इसी प्रकार से, विद्युत चुम्बकीय लहरियाँ और प्राण, मूलप्रणव से उत्पन्न हुए दो घटक हैं, एक ही बॉसुरी से निकाले गये दो भिन्न स्वर हैं। 19

 शक्ति के परिणाम स्वरूप घटित होते हैं। मानव में सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के हिरण्यगर्भ पक्ष की अभिव्यक्ति सृष्टा श्रीब्रह्मदेव के माध्यम से होती है। विकास प्रक्रिया में यद्यपि ब्रह्मदेव की कोई भूमिका नहीं है, परन्तु विकास के लिए आवश्यक भौतिक शरीर तथा सोचने के लिए अहंकार श्रीब्रह्मदेव ही प्रदान करते हैं । विराट आदिपुरुष के शरीर के रूप में परिपक्व होने पर 'आदि पिंड' (युग्मज) 'विराट' कहलाता है। ऐसा तब होता है जब उनका शरीर (मानव शरीर की तरह) अपने सभी पक्षों तथा तत्वों की पूरी अभिव्यक्ति करता है। ये तत्व जीवधारियों, मनुष्यों, देवी-देवताओं की तथा 'आदि-कुण्डलिनी की भौतिक अभिव्यक्ति हैं । परमात्मा के विराट पक्ष की शक्ति विराटांगना कहलाती हैं। आदि-पुरुष के आदि-मस्तिष्क (आदि सहस्रार) और आदिहृदय (आदि अनाहत) के माध्यम से इसकी अभिव्यक्ति होती है। महालक्ष्मी रूप में अवतरित होकर विराटांगना आदि सुषुम्ना नाड़ी के मध्य मार्ग पर कार्य करती हैं। श्रीविष्णु का सृजन विराट के नाभिचक्र (आदि- नाभि - चक्र ) पर होता है । नाभि भवसागर से घिरी हुई है। भिन्न समयों पर इसी स्थान (नाभि चक्र) पर अवतरित होकर मध्यमार्ग पर चलते हुए वे विकास प्रक्रिया का कार्य करते हैं । आदि पुरुष (विराट) भगवान विष्णु मनुष्य रूप में अवतरित होते हैं। रीढ़ में सूक्ष्म मध्य वाहिका, सुषुम्ना नाड़ी के माध्यम से इस शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति होती है और स्थूल रूप में परा-अनुकम्पी- नाड़ी तन्त्र पर। श्रीविष्णु की वाहिका उत्क्रान्ति पथ है तथा विराट के विष्णु रूप में निम्नलिखित दस अवतरण मानव के विकास में सहायक हुए हैं। i. मछली मत्स्य अवतार ii. कछुआ कू्म अवतार जंगली सूअर iii. वराह अवतार नरसिंह अवतार नर-सिंह iv. बौना पुरुष वामन अवतार V. उग्र पुरुष vi. परशुराम अवतार vii. जनहितैषी राजा राम अवतार विराट कृष्णावतार viii. साक्षी-लीलाघर ix. विराटपुत्र ईसामसीह बुद्ध (महाविष्णु) अवतार श्वेत अश्वारूढ़ कल्कि अवतार X. (सर्व- सामूहिक अस्तित्व) 21

 आदिशक्ति की शक्ति परमात्मा के तीन पक्षों की अभिव्यक्ति उनकी शक्ति, अदिशक्ति द्वारा होती है। वे तीन शक्तियों- महाकाली, महासरस्वती और महालक्ष्मी के रूप में अवतरित होती हैं और त्रिगुणात्मिका रूप से इन्हें बहुगुणित करती हैं। परन्तु ईसाई परम्परा में आदि माँ (आदिशक्ति) को अवतार लेने की शक्ति भी प्रदान की गई है : वे स्वयं मानव रूप धारण कर सकती हैं। विकास प्रक्रिया का मार्गदर्शन करने के लिए या तो वे स्वयं अवतार धारण करती हैं या पुरुष और महिला अवतरणों का सृजन करके उनके माध्यम से कार्य करती हैं। परमात्मा की तुलना यदि हम किसी भौतिक जीव से और उनकी शक्ति आदिशक्ति की तुलना उस प्रकाश से करें जिसका अस्तित्व सम्बन्धित अनुपात में होता है तो परमात्मा के सृजन कार्य बंद करते ही वे (आदिशक्ति) उनमें विलीन हो जाती हैं। सृजन किसी दर्पण या प्रतिबिम्बक के समान है । परमात्मा यदि प्रकाश बन्द कर दें तो प्रतिबिम्ब का कोई अस्तित्व ही नहीं रह जाता। ऐसी स्थिति में आदिशक्ति की परमात्मा से सम्पर्क बनाए रखने की या उनका मनोरंजन करने की शक्ति भी समाप्त हो जाती है। आदि पुरुष के शरीर में विकसित हो कर आदिशक्ति शरीर धारण करती हैं, जब कि सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा, परमेश्वर रूप में आदि पुरुष के सिर के तालू पर निवास करते हैं। ईश्वर रूप में विराट के हृदय (आदिअनाहत) में प्रतिबिम्बित होकर साक्षी रूप से वे अपने शरीर क्षेत्र को देखते हैं। आदिपुरुष का लंगरघाट (moorings) परमेश्वर के सर्व समग्र रूप में है। अत: विराट जब पृथ्वी पर श्रीविष्णु रूप में अवतरित होते हैं तो उनका अवतरण परम पुरुष के प्रक्षेपण (प्रकटन) के रूप में होता है। इसी प्रकार से ब्रह्मदेव (प्रजापति) और सदाशिव (शिव) के लंगरघाट (moorings) भी परमेश्वर में ही होते हैं। सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा पूर्ण सौन्दर्य, पूर्णज्ञान (सत्य) और पूर्ण प्रेम की मूर्ति हैं । अपने क्षेत्र के े ज्ञाता (क्षेत्रज्ञ) हैं और उनके क्षेत्र का विकास उनकी शक्ति, आदिशक्ति के माध्यम से होता है। उनके तीन पक्ष आदिशक्ति की शक्तियों में प्रतिबिम्बित होते हैं। उनका व्यक्तित्व न बढ़ता है न घटता है, न विस्तृत होता है न संकुचित। उनकी दृष्टि बढ़ते या घटते हुए क्षेत्र को देखती है। आदिशक्ति रूप में उनकी शक्ति न बढ़ती है न घटती है, परन्तु वे उपलब्ध स्थान के अनरूप विस्तृत होती हैं। 22

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Interviews in Turin ...4
Conversation with Yogis ...16
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आदिशक्ति की शक्ति ...२२
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in, 2000
11 September 2000
(Conversations with sahaja yogis in a hotel)
Shri Mataji to a child: I'm talking about you! Ah! One child is enough!
Guido: To change the atmosphere.
Shri Mataji: Absolutely. They try to please you all the time. You should take to small children, then you
won't age much. I think one of the things.
Guido: Vibrations.
Shri Mataji: Vibrations, and also you become like a child, with them, that enjoyment of the children.
You cannot get old. Very difficult. They do not have reactions. Singing now.
This gentleman, how did he know Me?
Guido: He (indicates Aldo) contacted him.
Shri Mataji: So what did you tell him?
Aldo: I told him all about Sahaja Yoga, but he...
Guido: He gave him a leaflet about Sahaja Yoga, so he invited you to come. (....)
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 Interview to Shri Mataji to an interviewer in the hotel.
Question : What is love for you?
Shri Mataji : Love? Love is the power of divinity. It's the Divine. And that's why this whole
world was created out of love.
Question : So everybody has an inner instrument, but mostly they don't use it. Why?
Shri Mataji : Because of ignorance. Ignorance, you see, every human being is not equally
aware.
Question: Is it possible to change this condition?
Shri Mataji: Yes, it has to.
Question : In which way?
Shri Mataji : By feeling the vibrations of that person on your fingertips. From the level of
spirituality.
Question : Which is your mission in Italy?
Shri Mataji : Everywhere, it is not only here. Because Sahaja Yoga is now in 86 countries,
alright? And My mission is to create a global unity.
Question : To improve the life? To make life better?
Shri Mataji: Of course, of course, what we have to do is to understand that most of the
problems that we have are coming from human beings, because they are imperfect. There are
problems with them. But if they are transformed, and if they become saintly, beautiful, spiritual,
all our problems will be solved.
Question : The Yoga is one way to change this situation?
Shri Mataji : The only way, this Sahaja Yoga, is the only way so far I know, which has
changed people, which has transformed. Because is based on the actually, on the Kundalini
which is the power in every man's triangular bone.
Question :And you think that is possible to move the Kundalini?
Shri Mataji : If that is awakened, if that power is awakened, it passes through six centres
ultimately the last here, and by which you become connected to the all-pervading power, which is
very subtle. And you become the owner of that power, which flows – that's love, that's
compassion.
Question : When you practice the meditation, where you go with your heart, with your
mind?
Shri Mataji : I go nowhere, I go inside. I know about My centres. I don't go anywhere out,
I'm inside. Inside Myself, and I know Myself. First we must know our self, otherwise we cannot
know God, we cannot know anything.
Question : And what is it in your heart?
Shri Mataji: What is it in your...?
Question : ...in your heart.
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 Guido : What is residing in your heart.
Shri Mataji : In My heart resides God Almighty.
Question : OK. The last question for you: where the world goes?
Guido: Where is this humanity going?
Shri Mataji : It is going into the Last Judgement. Whether they take to higher life or to baser
life. This is the Last Judgement.
Question : There is one thing that you want to say for the people, for the...
Shri Mataji : Yes, of course! The message is that within you is this power, and this power is
your own Mother, your individual Mother, and She knows everything about you. And She is anxious
to give you your second birth. She takes up all responsibility, only thing you should want it, it cannot
be forced. That's it.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji : And you can't pay for it. It's the evolutionary process now. Is the end of the
evolutionary process, that you jump into new realm, and that by that you develop a new awareness of
collective consciousness and thoughtless awareness, to begin with.
Question : What is for you the wellness?
Guido: Awareness.
Shri Mataji : Awareness is to be conscious that something has to be done, there's a seeking,
that's awareness. According to Me, the real wealth is your Spirit, that you are the Spirit. That's your
real wealth.
Question : We are only Spirit?
Of course. You are not this body, this mind, and you are not this intellect. You are
Shri Mataji :
the Spirit.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji : That should happen.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji : May God bless you. He's very subtle.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji : That's all (She smiles).
Guido all'intervistatore : Vuol provare l'esperienza?
Int.: Di che genere?
Guido : Il risveglio della Kundalini.
Int.: Si può?
Shri Mataji:You are a very subtle person, I must say. You asked Me very subtle questions.
Int.: Va bene. Come si deve fare?
Shri Mataji : Alright.
6.
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Shri Mataji : You are already a realised soul. Got it. Are you feeling the cool breeze?
Int.:I feel, yes.
Shri Mataji : That's it! Now you have become. Very good. What I must say that journalists
are the most powerful people in modern times. And it really depends on you how you are going to
lead or mislead this world.
Int.: For me is very important to show the real nature ofthe man.
Guido : He says it's very important for him to show the reality, the inner reality of man.
Shri Mataji:Ofcourse. But the reality is that you are the Spirit.
Int.: Is little difficult for people understand...
Shri Mataji : No, that's all, what you call, a camouflage. It's not real. The real is that you are
the Spirit. That's real.
Guido : He says it's little difficult to make people understand this.
Shri Mataji : No, they will. See now, I've been doing that, and I've seen people understand.
Is the best way to tell them...You have to tell them everything frankly, because they are misled.
They're on the wrong track. So we have to save them.
Guido : Very strong vibrations.
Shri Mataji : He's very good, he's very good. Very good, excellent.
Int.:I hope that tomorrow evening I go to you to Teatro Regio.
Guido : He would like to come tomorrow evening to meet You...
Shri Mataji : Please, do, and bring all your friends! And all your family!
Guido : E porta anche i tuoi amici e la tua famiglia.
Shri Mataji : And all your family.
Shri Mataji: Excellent.
Guido: He's feeling also.
Int.: I am in heaven now!
Shri Mataji (laughs): This is the paradise created by your Spirit, in the state of realisation. It
makes you peaceful, joyful, wise, and enjoyable everything.
Int.: Without ego!
Shri Mataji: Without...?
Guido : Ego!
Shri Mataji : (laughing loudly) You don't have.
Int.: No? Thank you!
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 Shri Mataji : You don't have.
Int.: Finally one person that tells me I have not a ego.
Shri Mataji : Ah (laughs).
Guido : He says you are the first person who is telling him that he has no ego.
Shri Mataji : No, he hasn't. He hasn't got ego. You see, all those who have ego always think that
(laughs) that others have ego. Do you understand? (laughs) (Int.: Eh. Vero.)
If you had ego, you could not have got it so fast. But I think he has little sinus.
Int.: Yes.
Shri Mataji : He has.
Int.: Yes.
Shri Mataji : Alright? Now, for that a simple method is to take onion, two onions, and put it on
the fire, it becomes black. Then cut it half straight, I mean, standing, and then foment it with that
(lower part offorehead). Very simple. And here also (sinuses).
Int.: And don't eat cheese.
Shri Mataji : No, no, cheese is alright.
Int.: Yes?
Shri Mataji : Yes, it's nothing to do with cheese. It is because hot and cold, the difference
between hot and cold – say, something you take hot and then you take cold, you see, like coffee and
then ice-cream. Or you suddenly expose yourself from a hot place to the cold, or cold to the hot. It
could be cured.
Int.:I feel my hands (laughs).
Shri Mataji : I know, I know (laughs). But this can be easily cured, you try that, maybe with
two, first about, say, ten minutes. Then again if you get sick, then you should try after five minutes. It
will go away.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji: May God bless you. What's his name?
Int.: George.
Shri Mataji : George! Oh dear. George is the name of Mahavira, He's an angel, on the left hand
side. Left side, yes. There's right side is Buddha, and the left side is Mahavira.
Int. Ah, the right is Buddha and the left is....
Shri Mataji : Yes. So He guards you from all the left side problems.
Int.: Emotions?
Shri Mataji : Yes. George. And Michael is the same. And the right side, and Hanumana and
Gabriel the same. You'll know everything – it's all united, they're all joined together. It's not that this
is Indian, it's Italian– it's wrong. Inside they're all one.
Int.: Sarebbe bello riuscire ad integrare tutto.
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 Guido : Questo è quello che succede con Sahaja Yoga.
Shri Mataji : And that Christ is sitting here in the centre, on the optic chiasma. So, what you
have to do is to forgive. Forgive everyone. Then it opens out petal (?).
Guido : L'importante è perdonare. Per aprire questo centro...
Int.: L'importante è perdonare. Certo.
Shri Mataji : Torino is good, that way. But I think in Torino there has been some black
magic and things like that.
Int.:I feel this situation. There are many people that practise...
Shri Mataji : Must be from Egypt.
Int.:I don't know why. (….)
Shri Mataji : That's very dangerous. That causes cancer. In Sahaja Yoga you can cure them,
because you come in the centre, nor on the left, neither on the right. You pass through that (run
with the hand the central channel). And here is the place (She touches the fontanel bone
area)….Yes, yes. Passes through this (She touches the ego and superego) ; through the limbic
area (She makes the gesture of the Kundalini passing through the fontanel bone). And here is the
place (She touches the fontanel bone) of God Almighty, which is reflected in your heart as the
Spirit. You will know everything. You master it. Yes, of course. Within one month's time you will
be master. Very simple. Give him My book. He can read English. He's very good.
Int.: Ok. Thank you.
Shri Mataji : All right. May God bless you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Very nice to
have met you. Thank
you.
Int.: Thank you.
Shri Mataji : Very nice.
Int.: Wonderful.
Shri Mataji : Alright. Thank you.
Int.: Thank you very much.
Guido : See you tomorrow night.
Shri Mataji : He's coming, coming. All this is very nice.
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 (Conversations with sahaja yogis in a hotel)
Shri Mataji : We have to revive our old classical music. We have to.
Guido : Western classical?
Shri Mataji : Yes. We have to revive, whether in Italy, wherever it is.
Guido : Maybe Austria.
Shri Mataji : Austria, Austria is, see, becomes localised. But in a place where they can all come,
stay, work it out.. We should have. Thank God in India it has revived. India it has revived, otherwise
we were worried that Indian music would be finished. It's come back. But still there are groups in
India who take to Western pop music.
Guido : Ah, pop music.
Shri Mataji : And then there's jazz. That's something like Indian style.
Guido : In between.
Shri Mataji : In between (they laugh). There are many Indians who'd like to learn piano.
Specially in Calcutta. All the rich people used to have a piano in the house. Very common. Because
Indians have a special ear for the music. Also in our cinemas they use piano. For the music, for
background music. They use. Babamama started with the clarinet. He made people play on clarinet
Indian music.
Guido : Yes, the first time he came to Ganapatipule he brought somebody with...
Shri Mataji : Also violin of course, but piano so far not. But we can have it, is like harmonium
only, piano. Now this Dhumal is coming. And Ali's coming. And Sandesh. Dhumal is another genius.
Jazz music is alright, but this another one is like a satanic stuff.
Guido : Is techno, they call it techno.
Shri Mataji : Techlo?
Guido : Techno is technological music.
Shri Mataji : Techlo, yes. Is techlo or (something). But people are mad. Starts from America.
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 An Interview made by a young journalist
Question : Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi è portatrice di un messaggio universale di profonda
spiritualità. Negli anni '70 Lei ha introdotto il Sahaja Yoga, oggi praticato in tutto il mondo. Di
che cosa si tratta?
Shri Mataji : In English? Alright. Sahaja Yoga – Sahaja means 'born with you'. Also it
means 'spontaneous'. And Yoga means the union with the Divine.
Question : Qual è la differenza con lo Yoga tradizionale?
Shri Mataji : There is no difference. Because this traditional Yoga was done thousands of
years back, when they first wanted to cleanse the body, then the mind, then the intellect, and
ultimately they wanted to do Sahaja Yoga.
Question : Sahaja Yoga, realizzazione del Sé, benessere ed equilibrio interiore.
Shri Mataji : Of course. It is so. It is for complete inner balance, for your peace of mind,
also, the joy of your Spirit.
Question : Qual è la missione di Shri Mataji?
Shri Mataji : To bring global peace by transforming human beings.
Question : La Kundalini che cos'è?
Shri Mataji: It is a force within us, in the triangular bone, called as 'sacrum' – that means the
Greeks knew it's a sacred bone. And this energy is kept just like waiting for you to be awakened.
Question : Perché è così importante?
Shri Mataji: Because you have to have your evolution. All our problems come from human
beings, because they are not evolved, they are not enlightened. So, if they are enlightened, all
these six enemies we have of anger, greed, all kinds of things that we do, violence and all that,
will just drop out.
Moreover, moreover, in all the scriptures it is written "You know your Self, then you will
know God". So, how will you know your Self? You have to know your Spirit. Only through
awakening you'll know it.
Question : Parlando ancora del Sahaja Yoga, è praticabile da tutti.
Shri Mataji : Ofcourse.
Question : Ma come avviene, come viene praticato questo Yoga?
Shri Mataji : There is nothing to be practiced. It just happens in us (..). But only thing is
people have problems on their centres through which it passes, so you have to just correct them,
and you have to master the knowledge, which is absolute.
Question : Come è nata la Sahaja Yoga?
Shri Mataji : See, when I was born, I knew I was enlightened, Myself. But I thought it
should go to the collective. People should get it in a big way. So I little bit, I should say,
experimented with human beings, and I tried to find out what is the problem is. Then I worked out
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 all the permutations and combinations of problems. And I found out a very easy method of giving
self-realisation.
Question : Shri Mataji è anche a Torino per portare un messaggio.
Shri Mataji : Yes, of course. Torino is a very artistic place and with people with very large heart,
and I'm sure they'll work out very well. All right?
Interviewer :Thank you very much.
Shri Mataji : May God bless you.
The young interviewer receives Realization.
Shri Mataji : (to Guido who raises the Kundalini of the girl and works on her) Put the left to the
right.
Now. Very good. Are you feeling cool breeze? Ah. This is actualisation of baptism. Just
happens. You yourself will become master. And you can create also. That's how Sahaja Yoga is
spreading in 86 countries.
Interviewer:Benissimo.
Shri Mataji : It's your right to get it. It's your evolutionary process, you see, last epitome of the
evolutionary process. All right?
Interviewer :All right.
Shri Mataji : May God bless you.
Interviewer :Wonderful. Thank you very much.
Shri Mataji : Thank you very much.
May God bless you (they shake their hands).
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 Press conference with a female & 2 Male journalist
Guido to one journalist : Cosa vorrebbe sapere su Sahaja Yoga?
Shri Mataji : My family...
Guido : Your history...
Shri Mataji :I was born in India, at the time when the British were ruling us, and My father
and mother both were very patriotic people, very well-educated, and I was born in a Protestant
Christian family. Then in My childhood what happened was that because of this patriotic feeling
within Me also, in the college I studied there, and then there was, we had a called "Quit India
Movement", that My father was arrested, mother was arrested, and I took part in the youth of
those people.
Question : Le tecniche dello Yoga, invece, per quanto concerne questa tecnica...
Shri Mataji : That was much later. Because I did My medicine, studied medicine, and then
when you see, I felt always from My very childhood, that I have got Myself self-realisation, what
you can call enlightenment, so everybody should get it. And because of that happening, the
whole world will change.
Other journalist : Qual è il messaggio del Sahaja Yoga e quali sono i benefici di questo...
Shri Mataji : The message of Sahaja Yoga is that human beings have to jump one more step,
to become a realised soul, an enlightened personality, by which you solve all the world's
problems. Because all the problems that we have in this world, most of them, apart from the
calamities, they come from human beings. But if they are enlightened, in the light of their Spirit,
they'll understand their value, they'll understand the value of others, and the whole change will be
there, lot of change will take place.
All the scriptures have said that you have to know yourself. But how do you know yourselfis
the problem, because you have to go inside. And for that there is already a power placed in our
triangular bone. Now this power, which is called as Kundalini, is placed in the triangular bone
called as sacrum. That means the Greeks knew it's a sacred bone. And this power, when it rises
within us, is awakened, and passes through six centres, subtle centres, and pierces through the
last centre, what we call as the fontanel bone area. That's how you get the actualisation of your
baptism. So, as a result of that, we do not react, because we become thoughtlessly aware. We
become a witness of everything. And secondly we become collectively conscious.
Journalist : Thank you very much.
Shri Mataji : May God bless you. (They shake hands)
(The journalists receive their realisation)
Shri Mataji : You'll start feeling the cool breeze on your fingertips, in your hands. This is
the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. All right? Are you feeling?
Female Interviewer: Yes.
Shri Mataji : It's spontaneous, that is spontaneous, Sahaj. Now see on top of your head, yes.
Here, here. Fontanel bone (She touches Her fontanel bone) which was a soft bone in your
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 childhood. Ah. Little higher. Get it? Little higher, take your hand little higher, above. Higher.
They've got it. Now, put your right hand towards Me like that. Got it! Alright? You too. It's
worked out. So spontaneous. Now you have to just know the centres that you have. They are, you can
feel them on your fingertips, your centres. And you will know what's wrong with you on the centres
(She touches the fingers of Her hand). It could be the left, on the left side are these five (fingers
centres), six (base of palm), and seven (centre of palm) centres. The right side are these five, six and
seven. Seventh (centre of palm). (Shows base of palm of right hand) This is the first one.
Altogether there are seven, but this seventh (shows base of palm of right hand) is not above
Kundalini, is below. This one, the first one.
Now. So you start seeing what's wrong with you on your fingertips. Also you can give
realisations to others. And you can also feel their problems on what centres they have. And these
centres look after physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. Spiritual being. So physically you
feel alright, your health is alright, it can cure cancer and many other such diseases, for no money
all. Mentally –many people are psychologically upset, they can get the balance, they're alright. They
become very strong within. And intelligence, which is running all over, stops, and you start seeing
the truth. And the reality. If it happens to many people, then global problems are solved. And media is
very important. You perhaps don't realise how great you are. What you can do to transform this
world, to bring peace, and joy, and togetherness. So enjoy your peace now, enjoy yourself. And we
have a centre here, you can know everything. Is the absolute knowledge, absolute.
at
Interviewer : Chiunque può fare Sahaja Yoga?
Shri Mataji : Of course, of course, is for everyone! Everybody is in problem, everybody needs
it! There are no boundaries. We have in South Africa, we have in Benin, where all the people are
black, you know? We have seven thousand people in Benin. And Ivory Coast: the President of Ivory
Coast is a sahaja yogi. In Eritrea also. So we have Sahaja Yoga everywhere now spreading, because
everybody wants peace. Russia is the best. Thousands and thousands are there. Because of
communism, they were thinking inside, they were going inside, they became very deep. While in
democratic countries, see, they offer so many chances for us to get lost. We are free, but no real
freedom. This is what is the problem of modern times. And Sahaja Yoga was the need, need of the
hour. Is predicted by many saints that this time will come, when so many people will get their self-
realisation. That's the solution for all our violence, for all our problems.
Ifthey have to ask any questions...
Female journalist : Prima avete parlato del fatto che, con questa tecnica, si riesce a risolvere
problemi di salute di un certo tipo, quindi anche malattie che per ora sono mortali. Ma siete riusciti a
risolvere casi del genere... Dato che comunque la nostra televisione interessa soprattutto il
Piemonte, siete riusciti a fare cose simili anche nella nostra regione?
Guido : Non so, Aldo, c'è stata qualche guarigione clamorosa?
Female journalist: Può parlare magari di un caso?
Guido : In Italia moltissimi. Tantissimi, sì. Casi di leucemia, problemi coronarici, linfatici...
Una persona aveva un cancro al cervello, ecc. ecc.
Sahaja yogi : A Milano.
Aldo : Qua più che altro problema di dipendenze tipo alcool, droghe. Sahaja Yoga è proprio
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 l'eliminazione di queste dipendenze.
(Guido tells Shri Mataji that the journalist asked about the diseases cured by Sahaja Yoga).
Shri Mataji : Many, many, thousands and thousands. I have one hospital in India, very big
hospital, where we are getting people from all over the world for getting cured. So I mean, I
cannot give you the list of things (we have cured).
Female journalist : Addirittura un ospedale?
Guido : Sì, sì".
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Shri Mataji : And you cannot pay
for it.
Female journalist : Ah no?
Guido : Questo non si può comprare, perché non ha prezzo.
Shri Mataji : Only for their stay and food, that's all. We have qualified doctors who have
taken to Sahaja Yoga. Also in America, the National Institute of Health, N.I.H., has now accepted
Sahaja Yoga. Even a person, a lay person, can know what's wrong with another person.
In N.I.H. there was one doctor who wanted to test the sahaja yogis. He asked: "What's wrong
with me?". He said: "Heart". And he had a by-pass about a month back. On the fingertips. On
fingertips (...) feel on the fingertips. Don't have to go for the rigmarole (...). We are having now
in India in jail people are getting transformed, in the military, administrative system, in (senior?)
administrative service, and bureaucrats – most difficult! And we also have with the people who
are doing (...) units, taxation and all that, finance. Big use (...).
Question : Fuori dall'India ha invece incontrato diffidenza?
Shri Mataji : Not Italians. Because they have a large heart. But Germans are dry, English
are getting no end of themselves, so rather good but not much. So they are difficult.
Question : Grazie.
Shri Mataji : Also about drug addiction, alcoholism, gets cured. Completely. And I bought
a place for that in Italy. But so far we haven't got the permissions. Sahaja Yoga can definitely cure
drug addiction and alcoholism. Can definitely cure. That is one of your great problems. Also
cancer. Cancer is a very big problem. You have AIDS, but AIDS patients are very arrogant, and
they won't listen to anyone. And they think they are going for martyrdom. So impossible, you
can't manage them. Same with Alzheimer's: they are very hot-tempered, they abuse you.
Otherwise everything is alright.
Other interviewer : Che tipo di relazioni ci sono con le religioni?
Shri Mataji : You see, religions are just the same, every religions is the same. But people
who have taken it over either they become money-oriented, power-oriented, they want
land...and all kinds of problems. That's not religion. But religion gives you balance, the chakra
here (touches Nabhi). Not to fight, not to have greed, lust – all that's out of question. That's why
all religions have failed.
They have to take to reality, to the Absolute. Then it will work out. The problem in all these
religions is that there's a book for each, and the way they, the way they sort of interpret the books
is difficult. And you cannot correct them also. So all kinds of complications are there. For
example, in the Bible.
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 Conversation with yogis, Aurangabad 1988
So, I would request you... What is this luggage walking in here? It's not have been taken down? Should
we take it down, because or Is it alright for you? You can go in the same buses down to the lake. Take
clothes and your towels. You need more towels, we have some more towels. I don't know if you have brought
them. Have you brought the towels?
your
Sahaja Yogi: “Yes Mother."
Shri Mataji: The rest of them. Because these are good towels I think. They are not so bad. They are quite
nice, absorbent. But you can take this. Your buses are there. But, don't go in the buses as if you are Australians
or Indians and things like that. Get mixed up, before this. Because you arrived from different directions from
different countries we had to arrange buses in that fashion. But, I think it is better to reorganize. Give
everybody a criminal number 1 2 3 4 5 6 and see that they are seated properly and that they have distinct. I
think, better is to count all of you when you leave the place. Nobody is left out here and all the numbers should
be there. So, I would request all the leaders to come and organize few things and talk to Me about it, about their
laundry. And there are the new group that has come from Italy. Hasn't got yet their sarees or anything so far.
Now your sarees we are carrying with us. I don't know where they are. Who has carried?
Sahaja Yogi: "In one of the buses Mother."
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Shri Mataji: “But there are seven."
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Sahaja Yogi: “Yes."
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Shri Mataji: You know, alright. So will you please take out that lot and allot it to the ladies who haven't
got their sarees and kurtas and pajamas. And please collect money from them. I hope you liked your kurtas.
Sahaja Yogis: “Yes, Mother."
Shri Mataji: “Are they good?"
Sahaja Yogis “Yes Mother"
Shri Mataji: Because I thought I got this cloth and I think it is good. Very good. Also the value is very
good. It is very good. And this will last and last because you see this kind of thing might give way. But,
because it has got those pairs it lasts a long. This is also from the same lot you got! Ah! Quite good, very good.
It is nice, alright. So, I would request you to allot them. Who will do that?
The leader should look after that. Now who are the people who have come by the last bus? Italy? Italy? Milan?
I mean Rome? Milan? Only so many of you.
Sahaja Yogi: “27, Shri Mataji.'
Shri Mataji: “27. But they look like 4-5 here. Ladies, very few ladies, isn't it?"
Sahaja Yogi: “Ladies are still in the ladies camp Mother."
Shri Mataji: “That side?"
Sahaja Yogi: "Yes."
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Shri Mataji: Now if you want, there are 5 air conditioned rooms down below. If you want you can stay
there. And one more guest house there. So I said, "They would love to be in the open air conditioning."
Sahaja Yogi: “Right Mother."
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 Shri Mataji: “Isn't it?"
Sahaja Yogi: “Yes."
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Shri Mataji: No, if somebody wants to go there, is a possibility of 5 rooms. They kept for Me
also. But, I said, I would love to be here. So, if you want to go for air conditioning, there are rooms, if
you want to. Be comfortable, if somebody is sick or anything. But I think it is better to be in the
nature.
I would like to tell you about these trees. Are called as neem trees. I don't know if you can pluck
them. But you might find them down below. This is what is the very good thing for driving out all the
badhas, some or the other. It has a very bitter taste and the badhas run away from it. They are very
oxygen creating plants and we use them as tooth brushes. See, there is one twig he has taken and
chewed into and then we go on cleaning our teeth with it for about an hour or so. You see, while
talking to people. Early in the morning when they are going for a walk they just take in their teeth
and just chewing, all of them talking together and sort of working it out. So, the teeth is kept very
well.. They never go to dentist. Indians never go to dentist. So I have never been to a dentist Myself.
So, this is a very nice thing and here also you get something called Neem tooth paste. I don't know
where you can get it. But that is very good thing for your teeth. So, if you could get these trees down
below, you can pluck it out and you can just start. Use it for a nice brushing. Try if you can. You have
to chew it very well. So these are the trees. This kind, you can see it. And if you have any sort of
scabies or any skin trouble then, we boil the water with this and give a bath. It is very good for taking
the bath. Boil the water and take a bath. Is a bitter thing. If you don't allow the water to go in your
mouth, then it is perfectly alright. It is very good. It is very medicinal thing called as Neem [Shri Mataji
spells it out]. Try to find if you can find the toothpaste somewhere. Neem toothpaste, or I will try to get
it. So, now for the ladies they can have their sarees and their clothes. I hope you like the sarees.
Sahaja Yogini: “Yes. Nice."
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Shri Mataji: Ah! Aren't they? It was a job really. Real tapasya. And they are so anxious to match
every saree with every blouse. See, it is impossible to get so many colors that they have and we had
to go from places to places, shops to shops and we had to request all the tailors and so many ladies
and sitting down. Imagine there were I think 996. Can you imagine? Sarees and blouses matching
[matched?]. But they enjoyed it. They very much enjoyed it. So, I think we should give them one,
these ladies who have got them. We must give them one saree each. Don't you think so?
to
Sahaja Yogis & Sahaja Yoginis: "Yah."
Shri Mataji: In Ganapatipule, I will try to do that. Would you now go and get the sarees?
Somebody. If you can bring the lot here we can give it to them. They have put the names on every
and they have put the names also of the boys. There were names of you people?"
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Sahaja Yogis & Sahaja Yoginis: “Yes, Shri Mataji. Names and numbers also."
Shri Mataji: Names and numbers? All right. It was really a hard task I tell you. Baba has done
that. And, he was so sweet you know, he brought all these things in a vehicle all the way from
Nagpur and I said, " must pay for it." He said, "No, at least let me do this much seva." I said, "No,
you must get something out of it." I never knew that My brother was that good. But as Sahaja Yogi, is
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 परमेश्वर को यदि कभी अपनी लीला का आनन्द आना बन्द हो जाए तो वे महाआदि-पुरुष (Primordial
Being) के हृदय से निकल जाते हैं और सृजन लीला का अंत हो जाता है। विराट के हृदय से आत्मा रूप में स्थापित
अपने प्रतिबिम्ब को वहाँ से हटाकर वे ऐसा करते हैं। हृदय बन्द हो जाने पर मानव शरीर की सभी गतिविधियों के रुक
जाने से हम इसकी तुलना कर सकते हैं। परिणामस्वरूप व्यक्ति की मृत्यु हो जाती है।
श्रीसदाशिव पक्ष सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के तमोगुण (इच्छा वृत्ति ) को दर्शाता है, क्योंकि उन्हें जीवन की इच्छा
थी और अपने व्यक्तित्व की अभिव्यक्ति उन्होंने अस्तित्व धारण कर के की। उनकी इच्छा शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति
'महाकाली' रूप में होती है। ये शक्ति आदिपुरुष के हृदय की बाईं ओर के माध्यम से कार्य करती है। ये सृष्टि के
भावनात्मक पक्ष को बनाए रखती है। तमोगुण (इच्छावृत्ति) आदि पुरुष के हृदय को घेरे रखता है और उन पर कार्य
करता है, परन्तु हृदय में निवास करने वाले ईश्वर (आत्मा), सृजन लीला के भावनात्मक पक्ष से बंधे हुए नहीं हैं ।
सृजन का भावनात्मक पक्ष इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति करता है परन्तु यह भावना मात्र है, सृजन नहीं है। वास्तविक सृजन
तो परमात्मा के सृजनात्मक पक्ष-महासरस्वति शक्ति- के माध्यम से होता है। मानव में हृदय की धड़कन उसी
में
अस्तित्व शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति है। इसे भावनात्मक पक्ष का नियंत्रण करने वाले जीवन (प्राण) के रूप
महसूस
किया जाता है। हृदय में निवास करने वाले ईश्वर किसी भी प्रकार से जीवनशक्ति से सम्बन्धित, प्रभावित या
आकर्षित नहीं है। वे पूर्णत: निर्लिप्त हैं और श्रीसदाशिव के लीला सामप्त करते ही वे परमेश्वर में विलीन हो जाते हैं ।
हिरण्यगर्भ ( प्रजापति)
हिरण्यगर्भ सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा का सृजनात्मक पक्ष है। ये आदिपुरुष के उदर (वॉइड) में गतिशील है।
आदिपुरुष का उदर भवसागर ( भ्रमसागर) भी कहलाता है। ( भवसागर के सृजन का वर्णन अन्यत्र किया गया है)
हिरण्यगर्भ की शक्ति महासरस्वती के रूप में अवतरित होती हैं और पूरी भौतिक सृष्टि उनकी शक्ति तथा गतिविधि के
परिणामस्वरूप हैं : उन्होंने ( महासरस्वती) ही सारी आकाशगंगाओं, सितारों और हमारे सूर्य, चन्द्र और पृथ्वी समेत
सारे ग्रहों का सृजन किया है। वे आदिपुरुष की विचार शक्ति का कार्य भी करती हैं तथा ये प्रक्रिया 'आदि-अहंकार'
की उत्पत्ति करती है। ये शक्ति 'आदि-पिंगला नाड़ी' वाहिका पर कार्यरत है तथा यह 'आदि-पूर्व -चेतन मस्तिष्क'
(आदि चित्) की अभिव्यक्ति करती है। यह डाकिए की तरह से कार्य करती है, जो सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा की बुद्धि
को संदेश पहुँचाता है। पृथ्वी पर मानव के भौतिक शरीरों की सृष्टि करने वाले पंच-आदितत्वों का आदिपुरुष में सृजन
इसी शक्ति के माध्यम से होता है।
हिरण्यगर्भ आदिपुरुष के रजोगुण (सृजनात्मक वृत्ति) का प्रतिनिधित्व करते हैं। मानव में इस शक्ति की
अभिव्यक्ति मनुष्य की सृजनात्मक शक्ति से होती है। सूक्ष्मरूप से यह रीढ़ की हड्डी में स्थित पिंगला नाड़ी वाहिका पर
कार्यरत है और इसकी स्थूल अभिव्यक्ति 'दायें अनुकम्पी-नाड़ी-तन्त्र' के रूप में होती है। यह मानव अहम् का सृजन
करती है जिसके माध्यम से मनुष्य अपने भविष्य के विषय में सोचता है। मनुष्य की सारी योजनायें व विचार इसी
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आदिशक्ति महाआदिपुरुष में सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा के तीन पक्षों की अभिव्यक्ति करती हैं। ये हैं 'सदाशिव'
(ईश्वर ), 'हिरण्यगर्भ' (प्रजापति), और 'विराट' ।
सदाशिव
परमात्मा का कभी परिवर्तित न होने वाला स्वरूप सदाशिव कहलाता है और उनकी शक्ति महाकाली रूप में
अवतरित होती हैं। महाकाली शक्ति के माध्यम से परमात्मा की शक्ति उनकी सृष्टि सृजन की इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति
करती हैं| महाकाली शक्ति अस्त्वि (जीवन) के लिए ज़िम्मेदार हैं। विकास प्रक्रिया में बाधा डालने वाले दानवों और
राक्षसों को वे नष्ट कर देती हैं। परमात्मा के अस्तित्व को यद्यपि ईश्वर रूप - विराट-के हृदय में महसूस किया जा
सकता है, उनके जीवित रहने की इच्छा की अभिव्यक्ति सदाशिव के माध्यम से होती है। इस प्रकार सदाशिव जीवन
के देवता (जीवन-देव) कहलाते हैं। क्योंकि अस्तित्व का विलोम शब्द विनाश है, अत: उनका एक अन्य नाम
प्रलयंकर (महाकाल) भी है।
मानव शरीर में भगवान शिव मनुष्य के हृदय के बाईं ओर अपनी शक्ति पार्वती या शिवानी के साथ निवास
करते हैं। वे सभी मृत तथा मानव मस्तिष्क को बन्धनग्रस्त करने वाले तत्वों को एकत्र करते हैं। जैसे किसी चलते हुए
कारखाने में ज्वलन क्रिया से धुआँ उत्पन्न होता है, जीवन्त प्रक्रिया में विराट की गतिविधि भी आदि-सामूहिक-
अवचेतन मन (महामनस) का सृजन करती है। विराट की जीवन्त गतिविधि से उत्पन्न होने वाला धुआँ इस आदि
अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क (महामनस) में एकत्र हो जाता है। यह 'आदि-प्रति-अहंकार' के नाम से जाना जाता है। श्री
सदाशिव इस आदि-प्रति-अहंकार में मृत आत्माओं से परिपूर्ण बहुत से संस्तरों वाले क्षेत्र की रचना करते हैं।
अधमतम स्तर के क्षेत्र में शैतानी और अत्यधिक क्रूर आत्माओं को स्थान दिया जाता है। बहुत बार वे जीवित
मनुष्यों के चेतन-मस्तिष्क में प्रवेश कर जाती हैं। इस आदि-अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क (महामनस) के आक्रमण तथा इन
देहविहीन क्रूर आत्माओं की अभिव्यक्ति से मनुष्यों की रक्षा करने का कार्य श्रीसदाशिव का है । मनुष्य के अन्दर
जिस वाहिका पर यह ( महामनस) कार्यरत है वह 'ईड़ा नाड़ी' (मनस) कहलाती है। यह नाड़ी वर्तमान अनुभवों को
भूतकालिक अनुभवों में परिवर्तित कर के इन्हें व्यक्तिगत-अवचेतन-मस्तिष्क में एकत्र कर देती है। मनुष्य के अन्दर
इस की स्थूल अभिव्यक्ति 'बायें अनुकम्पी-नाड़ी - तन्त्र' के रूप में होती है।
श्री शिव जीवन (अस्तित्व) का प्रतिनिधित्व करते हैं और उनकी शक्ति जड़ पदार्थों में विद्युत-चुम्बकीय
लहरियों के रूप में तथा जीवधारियों में प्राण (जीवन) के रूप में अभिव्यक्त होती है। ये दोनों शक्तियाँ मूल प्रणव या
परमेश्वरी शक्ति के दो स्वरूप हैं। जैसे बाँसुरी में प्रवाहित की जाने वाली एक फूंक संगीत के सात भिन्न स्वर उत्पन्न
करती है वैसे ही प्रणव भी एक समग्र शक्ति है। बिल्कुल इसी प्रकार से, विद्युत चुम्बकीय लहरियाँ और प्राण,
मूलप्रणव से उत्पन्न हुए दो घटक हैं, एक ही बॉसुरी से निकाले गये दो भिन्न स्वर हैं।
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श्रीब्रह्मदेव के माध्यम से होती है। विकास प्रक्रिया में यद्यपि ब्रह्मदेव की कोई भूमिका नहीं है, परन्तु विकास के लिए
आवश्यक भौतिक शरीर तथा सोचने के लिए अहंकार श्रीब्रह्मदेव ही प्रदान करते हैं ।
विराट
आदिपुरुष के शरीर के रूप में परिपक्व होने पर 'आदि पिंड' (युग्मज) 'विराट' कहलाता है। ऐसा तब होता है
जब उनका शरीर (मानव शरीर की तरह) अपने सभी पक्षों तथा तत्वों की पूरी अभिव्यक्ति करता है। ये तत्व
जीवधारियों, मनुष्यों, देवी-देवताओं की तथा 'आदि-कुण्डलिनी की भौतिक अभिव्यक्ति हैं ।
परमात्मा के विराट पक्ष की शक्ति विराटांगना कहलाती हैं। आदि-पुरुष के आदि-मस्तिष्क (आदि सहस्रार)
और आदिहृदय (आदि अनाहत) के माध्यम से इसकी अभिव्यक्ति होती है। महालक्ष्मी रूप में अवतरित होकर
विराटांगना आदि सुषुम्ना नाड़ी के मध्य मार्ग पर कार्य करती हैं।
श्रीविष्णु का सृजन विराट के नाभिचक्र (आदि- नाभि - चक्र ) पर होता है । नाभि भवसागर से घिरी हुई है। भिन्न
समयों पर इसी स्थान (नाभि चक्र) पर अवतरित होकर मध्यमार्ग पर चलते हुए वे विकास प्रक्रिया का कार्य करते हैं ।
आदि पुरुष (विराट) भगवान विष्णु मनुष्य रूप में अवतरित होते हैं। रीढ़ में सूक्ष्म मध्य वाहिका, सुषुम्ना नाड़ी के
माध्यम से इस शक्ति की अभिव्यक्ति होती है और स्थूल रूप में परा-अनुकम्पी- नाड़ी तन्त्र पर।
श्रीविष्णु की वाहिका उत्क्रान्ति पथ है तथा विराट के विष्णु रूप में निम्नलिखित दस अवतरण मानव के
विकास में सहायक हुए हैं।
i. मछली
मत्स्य अवतार
ii. कछुआ
कू्म अवतार
जंगली सूअर
iii.
वराह अवतार
नरसिंह अवतार
नर-सिंह
iv.
बौना पुरुष
वामन अवतार
V.
उग्र पुरुष
vi.
परशुराम अवतार
vii. जनहितैषी राजा
राम अवतार
विराट कृष्णावतार
viii. साक्षी-लीलाघर
ix. विराटपुत्र ईसामसीह
बुद्ध (महाविष्णु) अवतार
श्वेत अश्वारूढ़
कल्कि अवतार
X.
(सर्व- सामूहिक अस्तित्व)
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परमात्मा के तीन पक्षों की अभिव्यक्ति उनकी शक्ति, अदिशक्ति द्वारा होती है। वे तीन शक्तियों-
महाकाली, महासरस्वती और महालक्ष्मी के रूप में अवतरित होती हैं और त्रिगुणात्मिका रूप से इन्हें
बहुगुणित करती हैं। परन्तु ईसाई परम्परा में आदि माँ (आदिशक्ति) को अवतार लेने की शक्ति भी प्रदान
की गई है : वे स्वयं मानव रूप धारण कर सकती हैं। विकास प्रक्रिया का मार्गदर्शन करने के लिए या तो
वे स्वयं अवतार धारण करती हैं या पुरुष और महिला अवतरणों का सृजन करके उनके माध्यम से कार्य
करती हैं।
परमात्मा की तुलना यदि हम किसी भौतिक जीव से और उनकी शक्ति आदिशक्ति की तुलना उस
प्रकाश से करें जिसका अस्तित्व सम्बन्धित अनुपात में होता है तो परमात्मा के सृजन कार्य बंद करते ही
वे (आदिशक्ति) उनमें विलीन हो जाती हैं। सृजन किसी दर्पण या प्रतिबिम्बक के समान है । परमात्मा
यदि प्रकाश बन्द कर दें तो प्रतिबिम्ब का कोई अस्तित्व ही नहीं रह जाता। ऐसी स्थिति में आदिशक्ति की
परमात्मा से सम्पर्क बनाए रखने की या उनका मनोरंजन करने की शक्ति भी समाप्त हो जाती है।
आदि पुरुष के शरीर में विकसित हो कर आदिशक्ति शरीर धारण करती हैं, जब कि सर्वशक्तिमान
परमात्मा, परमेश्वर रूप में आदि पुरुष के सिर के तालू पर निवास करते हैं। ईश्वर रूप में विराट के हृदय
(आदिअनाहत) में प्रतिबिम्बित होकर साक्षी रूप से वे अपने शरीर क्षेत्र को देखते हैं। आदिपुरुष का
लंगरघाट (moorings) परमेश्वर के सर्व समग्र रूप में है। अत: विराट जब पृथ्वी पर श्रीविष्णु रूप में
अवतरित होते हैं तो उनका अवतरण परम पुरुष के प्रक्षेपण (प्रकटन) के रूप में होता है। इसी प्रकार से
ब्रह्मदेव (प्रजापति) और सदाशिव (शिव) के लंगरघाट (moorings) भी परमेश्वर में ही होते हैं।
सर्वशक्तिमान परमात्मा पूर्ण सौन्दर्य, पूर्णज्ञान (सत्य) और पूर्ण प्रेम की मूर्ति हैं । अपने क्षेत्र के े
ज्ञाता (क्षेत्रज्ञ) हैं और उनके क्षेत्र का विकास उनकी शक्ति, आदिशक्ति के माध्यम से होता है। उनके तीन
पक्ष आदिशक्ति की शक्तियों में प्रतिबिम्बित होते हैं। उनका व्यक्तित्व न बढ़ता है न घटता है, न विस्तृत
होता है न संकुचित। उनकी दृष्टि बढ़ते या घटते हुए क्षेत्र को देखती है। आदिशक्ति रूप में उनकी शक्ति न
बढ़ती है न घटती है, परन्तु वे उपलब्ध स्थान के अनरूप विस्तृत होती हैं।
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